**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 06 02:59:57 2006 Oct 06 03:10:56 kergoth: ping Oct 06 06:53:07 * Varoudis hello world! Oct 06 07:41:29 morning Oct 06 07:41:48 any hung over OEDEMYS? :-) Oct 06 07:45:18 ahah, here are the hung overs :-) Oct 06 07:46:01 * RP_oedem arrived too late for a hang over :-( Oct 06 07:49:31 and vpn access works :) Oct 06 07:53:19 hi all Oct 06 07:59:26 :-D Oct 06 08:11:31 koen_oedem: listen Oct 06 08:11:41 pssst Oct 06 08:11:41 and join #oedem Oct 06 08:11:56 sleeping through talks already? Oct 06 08:15:27 oh dear Oct 06 08:15:32 morning all Oct 06 08:21:47 hey ade|desk Oct 06 08:23:31 how is the turnout today ? Oct 06 08:25:09 ~10 people Oct 06 08:25:27 fairly good then Oct 06 08:32:28 morning all Oct 06 08:32:33 lo Oct 06 09:01:14 odd my oz-unstable has suddenly started wanting glibc-2.4 Oct 06 09:03:41 cool Oct 06 09:05:29 koen_oedem: not cool :-( Oct 06 09:06:02 by the way can I have OEDEM approval to update generic distro, the X11 and gpe stuff it uses no longer compiles in .dev Oct 06 09:06:24 XorA: go ahead Oct 06 09:06:37 I'm about to propose removing pre-modular X from OE Oct 06 09:07:19 koen_oedem: cool, it no longer compiles Oct 06 09:09:54 koen_oedem: do you have any idea how to get slugos to use glibc-2.4? :) Oct 06 09:11:29 NAiL: check the angstrom disto files for glibc references Oct 06 09:14:15 * XorA hides Oct 06 09:14:15 morning all Oct 06 09:16:03 good morning Oct 06 09:16:10 hey florian Oct 06 09:17:16 hey florian Oct 06 09:30:45 florian: At which point is gpe running X is it decided which /dev/inpunt/event? device stylus is on? Oct 06 09:33:47 XorA: the Xserver script should check for it Oct 06 09:35:09 florian: it seems to use the value of TSLIB_TSDEVICE but I am being blind as to where that is set Oct 06 09:35:21 ah Oct 06 09:35:52 XorA: search for the script that calls "detect-stylus" Oct 06 09:37:06 I'm missing the fonts for X11R7.x. Package xfonts-xorg is for 6.8 only and xserver-xorg brings no fonts. What to do? Oct 06 09:41:08 XorA: machines with 2.6 should use the udev rule that creates the /dev/input/touchscreen0 link Oct 06 09:43:10 koen_oedem: the problem isnt that, its getting X to pick that up Oct 06 09:43:19 ah, right Oct 06 09:43:20 anyway its in /etc/profile.d/tslib.sh Oct 06 09:43:30 mine is blank, hence not working Oct 06 09:45:56 * XorA is so close to gpe running Oct 06 09:46:01 morning all Oct 06 09:46:52 hi do13_ Oct 06 09:47:12 hey florian Oct 06 09:47:26 XorA: on which device? Oct 06 09:47:55 hey Dirk Oct 06 09:48:02 hi Liam Oct 06 09:49:17 florian: smdk2440 dev board Oct 06 09:49:27 ahah, my touchscreen is backwards Oct 06 09:49:59 XorA: cool - make a screenshot of gpe-info for the gallery :-) Oct 06 09:50:07 florian: will do Oct 06 10:01:36 Which package do I have to add to BOOTSTRAP_(R)DEPENDS for Xorg fonts? Oct 06 10:03:51 * koen_oedem_ kicks cia Oct 06 10:20:26 florian: http://www.xora.org.uk/smdk2440-gpe.png Oct 06 10:23:07 something in gpe upsets the touchscreen though, works fine in Xfbdev, in gpe its a bit crazy Oct 06 10:45:31 XorA: thats a gimp edit if ever i saw one ;) Oct 06 10:45:56 XorA: cool! Oct 06 10:45:57 ade|desk: eh? Oct 06 10:46:06 OE steering discussion is starting now Oct 06 10:46:22 suggestions welcome :) Oct 06 10:46:38 create oe-core Oct 06 10:47:39 XorA: hmmm... gpe itself shouldn't do anything special with it... it just uses x Oct 06 10:48:07 florian: actually I think its taping it that fscks it Oct 06 10:48:21 florian: of course plain Xfbdev there is nothing to click on Oct 06 10:50:05 florian: I nicked the driver from h1940 so its probably not quite right Oct 06 10:50:48 XorA: maybe... or you maybe just need some different tslib configuration. Oct 06 10:50:52 koen_oedem_, are you here? Oct 06 10:52:00 yes Oct 06 10:55:52 koen_oedem_, ive sent you an /msg Oct 06 10:56:10 and I replied Oct 06 10:56:19 ?!?! Oct 06 10:56:26 "send hrw an email so he doesn't forget" :) Oct 06 10:56:52 sorry i didnt got your msg! Oct 06 10:56:58 whats hrw mail? Oct 06 10:57:00 I think freenode blocked it Oct 06 10:57:07 openembedded@hrw.one.pl Oct 06 10:57:18 ok thnx Oct 06 10:59:56 Crofton: if i clean 'linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb' and then run bitbake over that bb file again, will it pull the latest git automatically? Oct 06 11:00:10 ...or do i have to do it another way? Oct 06 11:00:56 yes Oct 06 11:01:19 ok, great. Oct 06 11:01:48 you need the make omap work again update :) Oct 06 11:02:01 indeed Oct 06 11:02:03 that be the one Oct 06 11:02:05 email me if the kernel boots Oct 06 11:02:14 I hvae been trouble getting anything to boot Oct 06 11:02:14 will do Oct 06 11:02:39 if i can't get any of this to work, i'm going to have to revert to 2.6.14 and work all weekend Oct 06 11:02:43 have to be done by monday :( Oct 06 11:02:52 I'm concerned I have the kernel assembly instructuions messed p Oct 06 11:03:27 well, lets hope it's just that simple :) Oct 06 11:03:44 als you will need to make your own .config Oct 06 11:04:22 anything i should be concerned of there? i've been doing it via 'make menuconfig' and navigating around Oct 06 11:04:31 just looking to add framebuffer support to the omap Oct 06 11:05:04 that is fine Oct 06 11:05:20 Dirk on the omap list had some options to check Oct 06 11:05:27 sounds like you already know all about them Oct 06 11:05:46 yeah, i checked against what i have... they match... except for a couple which just aren't present Oct 06 11:05:54 i'm hoping a git update will prove i was just oudated Oct 06 11:06:03 I am missing free donuts :( Oct 06 11:06:14 haha. ;) Oct 06 11:06:30 mmm... doughnuts (to be said in the voice of Homer) Oct 06 11:06:50 what is worse is I don't even have to go anywhere for them, somone will pick up a box and bring it to our lab Oct 06 11:07:10 s-p-o-i-l-e-d ;) Oct 06 11:08:34 of course someone on campus just cme down with mumps Oct 06 11:08:55 uh oh. time to disinfect the campus Oct 06 11:09:20 i thought everybody had to have MMR shots these days Oct 06 11:10:03 I guess Oct 06 11:10:17 I was vaccinated so long ago, I don't know what I had Oct 06 11:10:37 in fact I suspect I predate those vacinattions Oct 06 11:10:53 BUT, I had a smallpox vaccination Oct 06 11:11:26 well, there was that period when some hippie parents refused to have their kids vaccinated at all Oct 06 11:11:38 idiots :) Oct 06 11:11:53 i seem to remember being vaccinated for everything Oct 06 11:11:59 I think there are still some people who get people worked up about that crap Oct 06 11:12:09 but that was before the ystarted vaccinating for chicken pox Oct 06 11:12:14 too late there, i had them years ago Oct 06 11:12:14 I bet a lot of people think they have mumps this morning Oct 06 11:12:23 haha Oct 06 11:12:25 probably Oct 06 11:12:43 the symptoms sound like a bad hangover Oct 06 11:12:59 and people go out on thursdays :) Oct 06 11:13:12 i was just going to ask when your "party" nights were Oct 06 11:13:12 haha Oct 06 11:13:16 so great Oct 06 11:18:02 I need to go find some coffee Oct 06 11:18:08 good luck Oct 06 11:18:25 thanks. enjoy the coffee hunt Oct 06 11:19:57 there are starbucks everywhere Oct 06 11:20:22 i would imagine such. they're like a plague. but expensive coffee Oct 06 11:23:36 costa coffee round are way Oct 06 11:24:12 the added 'lot' in pen at the end of the signs gives the price away Oct 06 11:30:39 XorA: http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/gallery/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Various-Devices&page=1 Oct 06 11:36:46 yay for netsplits Oct 06 11:37:16 hey. folks. Oct 06 11:40:15 hi leoncamel Oct 06 11:54:08 florian: cheers for that Oct 06 12:02:32 mmmmm Oct 06 12:02:34 pizza Oct 06 12:02:51 how is oedem going? Oct 06 12:03:02 have you solved all the problems? Oct 06 12:03:37 or are you guys just drinking beer all day :) Oct 06 12:04:16 rofl ... they have a schedule ;) Oct 06 12:04:16 http://www.openembedded.org/oedem Oct 06 12:04:27 Crofton: we discovered new problems ;) Oct 06 12:04:39 i don't see 'drinking beer' on there ... must be understood :) Oct 06 12:05:17 bigd0g: maybe thats the problem Oct 06 12:05:28 XorA: haha Oct 06 12:05:47 I hear that at Germen conferences, they have pictchers of beer on the table instead of water Oct 06 12:06:36 hrm. Oktoberfest must be around the corner :o Oct 06 12:06:57 Crofton: that's in the south ;) Oct 06 12:08:04 Crofton: how can i verify the git revision i have? the 2.6.x-r0 is vague Oct 06 12:08:04 just cleaned and re-ran the bb file, so i want to make sure it pulled the latest Oct 06 12:14:16 http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/index.php/v/Koen/confs/oedem2006/IMG_6544.JPG.html?q=gallery Oct 06 12:15:21 that's the developers hard at work Oct 06 12:23:58 koen_oedem: yeah ! Oct 06 12:33:12 koen_oedem: in that pic... shh... there's a windows xp computer behind all of you Oct 06 12:33:15 * bigd0g hides Oct 06 12:33:26 that's mickey_away's laptop :) Oct 06 12:33:33 haha Oct 06 12:33:59 i just thought it was funny :) Oct 06 12:34:13 bigd0g: its assimilated now ;) Oct 06 12:34:31 nice, nice Oct 06 12:34:41 Oktoberfest is really in September anyway Oct 06 12:35:04 i see, it's like a prep for October Oct 06 12:36:14 koen_oedem: who is who in the photo Oct 06 12:37:41 top-right, clock-wise: mickey_away, florian, RP_oedem, hrw, woglinde Oct 06 12:37:59 not shown: tf, zecke, me Oct 06 12:40:06 so RP_oedem is the only one not wearing a shirt Oct 06 12:40:29 RP is wearing the brown/white t-shirt Oct 06 12:47:32 I see tf, zecke and koen fear assasinatiopn Oct 06 12:54:44 :) Oct 06 13:15:04 hey T0mW Oct 06 13:15:15 T0mW: http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/gallery/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Various-Devices&id=smdk2440_gpe Oct 06 13:22:14 do i have to change anything in 'linux-omap1_2.6.12-rc2.bb' to force it to pull the latest git version ? Oct 06 13:22:41 i just did a clean along that bb file and then forced a run and it appears to not have given me the latest git pull Oct 06 13:22:47 :-/ Oct 06 13:26:17 bigd0g, looking at version that .bb has, neither it should Oct 06 13:27:10 psokolovsky: are you talking about 'mPR' or 'KERNEL_RELEASE' ? Oct 06 13:27:33 bigd0g, about _2.6.12-rc2 Oct 06 13:27:53 file with such suffix should pull up exactly that version Oct 06 13:28:19 i'm sorry... i copied the wrong file name Oct 06 13:28:36 i meant: linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb Oct 06 13:29:02 do i have to modify anything that file to get the latest pull? i don't know how to verify the version it downloads Oct 06 13:31:27 psokolovsky: any ideas for linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb ? Oct 06 13:31:34 bigd0g, how do you build your kernel (bitbake command)? Oct 06 13:31:50 'bitbake -b linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb' Oct 06 13:32:31 bigd0g, hardly, you would need to give full path to .bb Oct 06 13:32:49 ...which i do Oct 06 13:33:27 i type 'bitbake -b [full-path-to]/linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb' Oct 06 13:33:34 bigd0g, otherwise, yes, it should pull latest from git Oct 06 13:33:44 is there anyway for me to verify? Oct 06 13:33:46 bigd0g, I don't see git fetcher to use SRCDATE Oct 06 13:34:11 bigd0g, do checkout yourself ;-) Oct 06 13:34:31 i've never done one before Oct 06 13:35:39 they must have instructions for that somewhere. git clone Oct 06 13:35:57 or you can check what .bb checked out for you Oct 06 13:41:23 damn netsplit Oct 06 13:42:09 psokolovsky: where can i get help with the syntax to do the checkout myself? Oct 06 13:42:30 oops. what was that? Oct 06 13:42:45 psokolovsky: where can i get help with the syntax to do the checkout myself? Oct 06 13:43:34 the netsplit killed me, so i don't know if you said anything afterwards Oct 06 13:49:33 bigd0g, try googling for git tutorial or yrt better for linux-omap tree access instructions Oct 06 13:50:21 psokolovsky: ok, thanks. the keywords help Oct 06 14:01:47 i don't understand Oct 06 14:01:49 git-pull git://source.mvista.com/git/linux-omap-2.6.git Oct 06 14:01:56 comes up as 'not a git repository' Oct 06 14:02:21 but if you go to http://source.mvista.com/git ... it's right there Oct 06 14:02:52 bigd0g: try git-pull git://source.mvista.com/git/linux-omap-2.6/.git Oct 06 14:03:49 lrg: same error... fatal: Not a git repository: '.git' Oct 06 14:04:14 doesn't make sense. i'm copying the command directly from a help page Oct 06 14:04:25 bigd0g, need "git clone" first Oct 06 14:05:21 psokolovsky: ok, that appears to be doing something Oct 06 14:05:30 hopefully this download isn't too big :-/ Oct 06 14:05:49 bigd0g, it is long. 200mb+ ;-) Oct 06 14:06:08 yay! :-/ Oct 06 14:06:21 that's kernel, after all ;-I Oct 06 14:06:41 yeah, you would just think there would be an easier way Oct 06 14:07:05 i started this a while ago, but killed it because i didn't understand what it was doing Oct 06 14:07:10 bigd0g: google for git howto - jeff garzik has a good page Oct 06 14:07:18 lrg: thanks, will do Oct 06 14:07:56 bigd0g, but yep, after you've done with that, you may want to shove your checkout to OE to use. d/l that twice would really suck Oct 06 14:08:15 noted Oct 06 14:08:20 i'm sure i'll be asking how to do that in a bit Oct 06 14:08:25 >:) Oct 06 14:42:23 morning Oct 06 14:55:36 anyone have an idea how to redefine appbuttons in Opie? Oct 06 14:58:11 psocolovsky: Do you just want to reasign the hot-keys on the front of the device? Oct 06 14:58:45 hvontres|poodle, I have PDA layout with 4 buttons only ;-) but yes Oct 06 14:59:04 Well, I guess, it's just somehow button settings didn't get into my image ;-( Oct 06 14:59:32 What device do you have? Oct 06 14:59:56 hvontres|poodle, ipaq h4000 Oct 06 15:08:41 yoyoyo Oct 06 15:09:22 re Oct 06 15:10:33 XorA|gprs: yoyoyo Oct 06 15:11:13 koen_oedem: hows oedem going Oct 06 15:11:55 pretty nice Oct 06 15:12:05 going through bitbake profiling runs right now Oct 06 15:12:05 cool Oct 06 15:12:36 making that beast fasgter? Oct 06 15:12:49 looking at ways to do that :) Oct 06 15:13:11 good to see that fltk is as stupid as ever Oct 06 15:13:15 * XorA|gprs is waiting for drgs Oct 06 15:13:26 drugs Oct 06 15:14:23 koen_oedem: Are you at exebition stend or simple walk? Oct 06 15:14:42 * lrg wonders if XorA coding style will change when he is on drugs ;) Oct 06 15:14:45 in a meeting-room Oct 06 15:15:07 koen_oedem: Does there many peoples? Oct 06 15:15:23 lrg: my pool might return to useless Oct 06 15:15:29 9 people are present now Oct 06 15:15:51 koen_oedem: Somebody speech now? Oct 06 15:16:22 we're having a discussiong about profiling outputs Oct 06 15:16:37 using psycho JIT vs not using it Oct 06 15:16:48 koen_oedem: You are busy now? Oct 06 15:18:40 psyco not an option here Oct 06 15:19:22 psycho seems to give a ~14% speedup nowadays Oct 06 15:20:14 slightly less than smart question: why the huge speed difference? Oct 06 15:20:46 (i'm using it because the docs said it would make things faster) Oct 06 15:21:06 it sped things up 2-3x before Oct 06 15:21:17 but nowadays the effects are getting less Oct 06 15:21:47 that's either a sign of good progress, or poor psycho development ;) Oct 06 15:22:05 ...or both Oct 06 15:23:02 bigd0g: check out http://psyco.sourceforge.net/introduction.html Oct 06 15:23:19 hvontres|poodle: thanks :) Oct 06 15:29:03 a+ Oct 06 15:30:56 koen_oedem: how long do you think it will take for the minutes to make it to the oedem webpage? Oct 06 15:31:45 no idea Oct 06 15:31:55 we have a fascist firewall that blocks ssh Oct 06 15:32:24 but we'll start sending the RFCs we make to the mailing list soon Oct 06 15:34:25 * hvontres|poodle needs to get back on oe list Oct 06 15:35:37 hvontres|poodle: http://lists.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel Oct 06 15:38:55 ~lart right-wing firewalls Oct 06 15:38:55 * ibot judo chops right-wing firewalls Oct 06 15:40:00 koen_oedem: they block ssh but allow irc ??????? Oct 06 15:40:07 correct Oct 06 15:40:51 * hvontres|poodle wonders if the admins are closet script kiddies Oct 06 15:42:53 koen_oedem: adhoc networking should be on... Oct 06 15:43:15 not according to OSX :( Oct 06 15:44:17 koen_oedem: looks like the wlan gui crashed Oct 06 16:39:54 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r139de00c... 10/ (1 packages/procps/procps_3.2.5.bb): Oct 06 16:39:58 packages/procps/procps_3.2.5.bb : sysctrl is now supplied by busybox as Oct 06 16:40:00 well, update this to use update-alternatives. Oct 06 16:40:04 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r68731311... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Oct 06 16:40:06 linux-smdk2440_2.6.18.bb : first stab at getting touch working, using h1940 Oct 06 16:40:08 ts driver. It almost works. Oct 06 17:01:53 progress. working .config converted to defconfig Oct 06 17:02:00 * bigd0g crosses fingers and re-runs kernel build Oct 06 18:53:25 hi Oct 06 18:53:31 anyone here use ubuntu dapper ? Oct 06 18:53:36 siriusnova: me Oct 06 18:53:47 XorA - what version of monotone are you using? Oct 06 18:53:50 mine has errors Oct 06 18:53:56 when i installed via aptitude Oct 06 18:54:47 i had to install the dapper package and do a mtn -d OE.mtn db update Oct 06 18:54:55 and a mdn -d OE.mtn db regenerate_rosters Oct 06 18:54:59 *mtn Oct 06 18:55:25 mtn -d OE.mtn db migrate i mean Oct 06 18:59:44 siriusnova: 0.30 Oct 06 19:00:05 XorA - did you have to do db migrate etc.. ? Oct 06 19:00:33 siriusnova: yes, but if you want a shortcut and have no uncommitted changes then look in http://www.openemebbed.org/snapshots/ for an already 0.30 made version Oct 06 19:00:47 hmm k Oct 06 19:01:20 its faster to download than regenerate_rosters :-) Oct 06 19:01:48 yeah it is Oct 06 19:02:08 also when im a bit confused about one thing Oct 06 19:02:25 i use openzaurus 3.5.4 Oct 06 19:02:42 would i use $ mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev Oct 06 19:02:50 and $ mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev Oct 06 19:02:53 or Oct 06 19:03:10 org.openembedded.oz534x Oct 06 19:03:14 in both cases Oct 06 19:03:16 $ mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.oz354x Oct 06 19:03:19 ahh k Oct 06 19:03:21 cool thanks Oct 06 21:19:40 XorA|gon2 - you here? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 07 02:59:57 2006