**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 09 02:59:56 2006 Oct 09 06:55:15 hello guys Oct 09 07:26:34 morning all Oct 09 07:35:12 morning Oct 09 07:41:03 hi XorA Oct 09 07:41:10 hi zecke|foo Oct 09 07:41:23 * XorA does not like the remove MAINTAINERS proposal Oct 09 07:42:29 koen should have mentioned the proposed alternative :) Oct 09 07:42:53 brb Oct 09 07:43:11 RP: yes is there is an alternative then it should be there as well Oct 09 07:43:18 s/is/if/ Oct 09 07:43:24 ARGH Oct 09 07:43:57 now it looks better Oct 09 07:44:05 nope.. still does not scale ;( Oct 09 07:44:50 re again Oct 09 07:47:05 speaking about maintainers RFC... I like it - when there will be MAINTAINERS file Oct 09 07:47:31 mickey_away: ping? Oct 09 07:49:26 hrw|work: right, koen needed to mention that :) I'll post a follow up Oct 09 08:03:53 XorA: I've sent a reply with a proposed alternative Oct 09 08:04:56 RP: proposal B I like Oct 09 08:05:00 RP: will answer Oct 09 08:05:56 XorA: koen missed the rather important bit out - the idea always was replacement with a maintainers file Oct 09 08:08:33 RP: dont send the hungover man to the email lists :-) Oct 09 08:21:42 zecke|foo: pong Oct 09 08:21:44 good morning Oct 09 08:22:02 hi mickeyl Oct 09 08:22:15 safe back home? Oct 09 08:22:53 mickeyl: yes thanks :) Oct 09 08:22:58 hi mickeyl Oct 09 08:23:11 mickeyl: The train journey was ok? Oct 09 08:23:54 hey hrw|work. yes. greetings from my wife... she was reading your IRC comment on the picture and told me I should tell you... "mickey _is_ so short, it's not the photo" :D Oct 09 08:24:10 RP: yeah, fairly well Oct 09 08:24:32 mickeyl: ;D Oct 09 08:24:49 mickeyl: greet Sabine from me Oct 09 08:25:00 will do :) Oct 09 08:28:58 * XorA breaks QVGA on terrier Oct 09 08:29:08 hey mickeyl Oct 09 08:29:35 did I ever say congrats on the finishing of the thing which you where suppose to be doing instead of working on OE? Oct 09 08:30:54 mickeyl: you left lot of files on spitz Oct 09 08:32:29 hrw|work: ooops. hopefully nothing embarrasing... Oct 09 08:32:45 mithro: not yet. many thanks!! :) Oct 09 08:33:11 mithro: how's life going on for you? Oct 09 08:33:15 any expert on text encoding here? Oct 09 08:33:35 hrw|work: i can't login to gpe on poodle... what's your root password? :) Oct 09 08:33:37 mickeyl: some files like sl3000sm.pdf etc can be usefull Oct 09 08:33:43 mickeyl: 'q' or 'a' Oct 09 08:33:49 ok Oct 09 08:33:58 hrw|work: oops. right. please treat them confidental! Oct 09 08:34:07 hrw|work: I'm not allowed to spread 'em. Oct 09 08:34:14 mickeyl: okay, part from now being unemployed Oct 09 08:34:22 mickeyl: you do not even have them Oct 09 08:34:29 hrw|work: indeed. now you have 'em :D Oct 09 08:35:09 crap the init order in mplayer isnt helpful when using overlay framebuffers Oct 09 08:52:01 good morning Oct 09 08:52:20 florian_kc, morning Oct 09 08:54:03 morning all Oct 09 08:58:55 hi florian_kc, likewise, mithro Oct 09 08:59:49 looks like most of the oedem people made it back :) Oct 09 09:00:28 florian_kc: yes, I returned safely Oct 09 09:03:13 RP: I'm satisfied with stable releases Oct 09 09:08:13 zecke: good, I'd just like to be able to write we agreed that :) Oct 09 09:08:42 * New +dfsg source tarball that has useful documentation removed to Oct 09 09:08:42 satisfy the DFSG License Nazi's. (Closes: #390664) Oct 09 09:08:44 ;D Oct 09 09:10:21 zecke: :-O Oct 09 09:10:59 oh nils mailed the gpe list :} Oct 09 09:11:21 yeah... i just read that too :-) Oct 09 09:11:33 RP: We should release 1.6.2 but how often do we want to releasE? Oct 09 09:11:50 RP: every four weeks from the stable branch (if changes happened)? Oct 09 09:12:00 RP: every two weeks from the unstable branch? Oct 09 09:12:04 zecke: When we have any significant bug fixes? Oct 09 09:13:02 zecke: I'd like to add the interactive flag before the next release Oct 09 09:13:14 (as a backport) Oct 09 09:26:35 Is the dependency graph feature (-g) issue fixed in Bitbake, or does it have low priority? Oct 09 09:28:33 likewise: high priority but no devel is assigned to it :( Oct 09 09:29:10 RP: let us found BitBake Inc. to only do BitBake development ;) Oct 09 09:29:14 zecke: ok, tnx Oct 09 09:29:20 Hi! Oct 09 09:30:00 sadly we are just too busy with uni/earning money to fix/do everything we would like to do Oct 09 09:30:03 *sorry* Oct 09 09:30:04 zecke: If new 1.6 release considered, please backport svn fetcher patch for it ;-) Oct 09 09:30:48 psokolovsky__: make a patch, attach it to the to be backported bug or hope I will have time :} Oct 09 09:30:48 RP: Hi, have a q regarding LED classdev in kernel. Oct 09 09:31:00 zecke, Ok! Oct 09 09:31:31 BTW: I like the backport rule. It must be in trunk, a patch must exist, one guy needs to review it, someone must wish this feature :) Oct 09 09:31:46 and we have not rejected a backport wish yet Oct 09 09:32:33 zecke, ok, I'll include that info in bug ticket. Oct 09 09:35:07 I sadly don't get too much done (upstream) Oct 09 09:42:53 hm. I think that I have to change my OE signature Oct 09 09:43:33 Laibsch: ping Oct 09 09:43:35 RP: http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/docs/pt04.html Oct 09 09:43:41 RP: what do you think of this page? Oct 09 09:44:07 hrw|work: pong Oct 09 09:44:29 Laibsch: your name/surname is? Oct 09 09:44:40 Rolf Leggewie Oct 09 09:44:47 thx Oct 09 09:44:53 np Oct 09 09:47:39 zecke: I am not an encoding expert, but what is your task? Oct 09 09:48:08 Laibsch: hehe, well If I could identify the area ;) Oct 09 09:48:20 Laibsch: I have two black boxes talking to each other :) Oct 09 09:48:23 just describe the issue Oct 09 09:48:41 Laibsch: I send latin1 text and the result is something... Oct 09 09:48:56 zecke: show both data Oct 09 09:48:59 mail? Oct 09 09:49:07 there is the encoding expert ;-) Oct 09 09:49:14 hrw|work: hehe, I can't :) Oct 09 09:49:51 zecke: then send somekind of 'this is ąęłńółćżö text' though it and show Oct 09 09:50:10 just ignore me :) Oct 09 09:50:31 k Oct 09 09:50:45 RP: looks like session#1 summary is like session#2 summary... Oct 09 10:02:10 ggilbert: ping Oct 09 10:03:50 where the heck can you change the bugzilla email target address? Oct 09 10:04:07 mickeyl: hehe Oct 09 10:06:14 mickeyl: you need to edit the default assigneeds of the components Oct 09 10:06:20 aah Oct 09 10:06:21 how intuitive Oct 09 10:06:23 *cough* Oct 09 10:06:24 thanks Oct 09 10:06:44 :-) Oct 09 10:06:50 mickeyl: Products -> for each product -> for each component Oct 09 10:07:09 morning mickeyl, btw Oct 09 10:07:18 hey florian Oct 09 10:07:43 florian_kc: can i call you @ 14:00 ? Oct 09 10:08:03 hmm Oct 09 10:08:11 initialowner: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org did not match anything Oct 09 10:08:11 !? Oct 09 10:08:11 mickeyl: Dunno? Oct 09 10:10:04 mickeyl: sure Oct 09 10:10:49 mickeyl: hmm... "update table..." Oct 09 10:14:43 just seen it's a bit more complicated Oct 09 10:14:58 need to change the email of an existing (dummy) user Oct 09 10:15:04 for which login is disabled atm. Oct 09 10:17:16 hmm funny Oct 09 10:17:26 i can't change these settings Oct 09 10:17:44 seems like once an account has been created, you can't change the email address afterwards Oct 09 10:17:48 ~curse bugzilla Oct 09 10:17:49 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, bugzilla ! Oct 09 10:18:43 mickeyl: when will you be in munich? Oct 09 10:18:53 14 something Oct 09 10:19:42 mickeyl: we are invited to get lunch at BenQ Oct 09 10:20:08 zecke: fine. let me check my arrivement exactly Oct 09 10:20:42 arrival even Oct 09 10:20:49 13.33 munich central station Oct 09 10:21:09 mickeyl: when will you be at Ost-Bahnhof? Oct 09 10:25:57 zecke: hmm no idea. how is that station called in the mvv ? Oct 09 10:26:41 dorfen, garching, gars, puchheim? Oct 09 10:27:35 mickeyl: Ost-Bahnhof Oct 09 10:27:43 mickeyl: the ICE/train could stop there directly Oct 09 10:27:50 oh Oct 09 10:28:10 then let me find out the route of ICE 1091 Oct 09 10:28:13 for sure the S bahn from the airport is stopping there :) Oct 09 10:33:57 ICE 1091 stops in München-Pasing, then München Hbf Oct 09 10:36:17 ok, i could be at 1346 @ ostbahnhof ICE is not delayed Oct 09 10:36:25 +if Oct 09 10:40:43 subscribed to OE new lists Oct 09 10:40:57 mickeyl: oh you directlry created them Oct 09 10:41:25 700 more rosters to regenerate Oct 09 10:41:59 yeah, i don't think this needs to be discussed Oct 09 10:42:14 i have had many requests for more mailing lists Oct 09 10:42:27 i was the only one holding this back, because of my usual fight against fragmentation Oct 09 10:42:28 :) Oct 09 10:42:43 but you all have convinced me @ oedem Oct 09 10:43:18 mickeyl: don't use Windows/FAT if you hate fragmentation! Oct 09 10:43:32 mickeyl: and as tkoutline replacement use mallum's figmet Oct 09 11:25:35 lol you can donate your car to the apache foundation Oct 09 11:28:27 heh Oct 09 11:28:53 BTW: what would rock in regard to 'site' is to have the original autoconf tests available as well Oct 09 11:29:08 then one could execute these confs on new hardware directly and compare the results Oct 09 11:41:11 RP: wow, no complaining by thomas :) Oct 09 11:41:24 Crofton: around? Oct 09 11:42:27 zecke: He will get upset if you spell his name like that ;-) Oct 09 11:42:39 eek Oct 09 11:42:55 poor guy, tomas Oct 09 11:43:01 zecke: more than just cars... "Donate your used car, truck, boat or RV to the Apache Software Foundation..." Oct 09 11:43:03 (o_O) Oct 09 11:44:05 RP: Tomas need to be Tomas and not Thomas - right? Oct 09 11:44:20 hrw|work: right Oct 09 11:44:36 just like I was thinking Oct 09 11:44:44 Its confusing as OH has both a Thomas and a Tomas now :) Oct 09 11:44:54 and two Chris' Oct 09 11:45:14 in Czech it is Tomas, in Polish its Tomasz (harder 's') Oct 09 11:45:17 RP: so you are looking for another richard? Oct 09 11:45:32 or Ryszard? Oct 09 11:47:01 zecke: We just need a better fork() implementation :) Oct 09 11:48:30 RP: Currently you are vforking? Oct 09 11:48:44 RP: but sharing the same peripheral/brain/address space if inefficient? Oct 09 11:55:22 zecke: Right, really I need an SMP upgrade Oct 09 11:57:08 RP: if you have ~16 years time you could use the traditional fork Oct 09 11:57:53 RP: your desktop inspired me to change one thing here Oct 09 11:58:45 RP: instead of panel on left I have now 2 small panels: taskbar on bottom and allpanel on top Oct 09 12:04:26 morning all Oct 09 12:05:10 Is it possible to activate/deactivate the tinderclient from the command line when issuing the bitbake command? Or does one always have to go into the local.conf file? Oct 09 12:05:16 hey hrw|work Oct 09 12:05:52 RP: Hi, I have a q regarding LED classdev in kernel. Can you give me a hint? Oct 09 12:05:59 hi Dirk Oct 09 12:07:48 hrw|work: You had a successful meeting? Oct 09 12:07:58 do13_: OEDEM was nice Oct 09 12:08:32 RP: how to hardreset spitz in other way then removal of battery? Oct 09 12:09:00 hrw|work: cool, are there minutes online? Oct 09 12:09:10 hrw|work: alt-sysreq-b Oct 09 12:09:30 XorA: not if I cant tell does it is on or not Oct 09 12:10:39 do13_: network connection was available during whole meeting (via zecke macbook + adhoc wifi net) Oct 09 12:16:33 bigd0g, I am here Oct 09 12:17:04 Crofton: any updates? i've hit a nice brick wall :( Oct 09 12:19:39 I am back in town, I will tryand get my OSK to boot Oct 09 12:19:51 Can you send me the pastebin of your current boot log Oct 09 12:20:56 yeah. i enabled verbosity and low level debugging Oct 09 12:21:02 1 sec Oct 09 12:21:13 ~lart lack of wifi@work Oct 09 12:21:13 * ibot judo chops lack of wifi@work Oct 09 12:21:22 ~lart lack of spitz usb device cable too Oct 09 12:21:22 * ibot pours hot grits down the front of lack of spitz usb device cable too's pants Oct 09 12:24:03 Crofton: http://rafb.net/paste/results/YDETIE96.html Oct 09 12:24:41 verbosity revealed soemthing about the jffs2 filesystem, so i'm trying to rebuild the filesystem with OE Oct 09 12:29:04 what jffs image did you have loaded? Oct 09 12:31:33 morning Oct 09 12:41:22 bigd0g, how did you get the kernel to boot? Oct 09 12:42:01 Crofton: is where i got it considered booted? Oct 09 12:42:21 basically, it's just the defconfig that's different Oct 09 12:42:29 oh Oct 09 12:42:35 hmmm Oct 09 12:42:35 and the patch that Dirk sent out to the list Oct 09 12:42:37 for low leve ldebug Oct 09 12:42:48 did you apply the patch? Oct 09 12:42:50 + current git Oct 09 12:42:56 no Oct 09 12:42:57 current git + patch, yes Oct 09 12:43:04 1 sec... i'll throw the patch in a pastebin Oct 09 12:43:13 and the defconfig Oct 09 12:43:21 ok Oct 09 12:44:49 Crofton: patch for low level debug :: http://rafb.net/paste/results/P2yhrh40.html Oct 09 12:45:30 Crofton: new osk defconfig :: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AKh6ls79.html Oct 09 12:45:44 i used OE to clean/update my kernel download Oct 09 12:45:57 i compiled it myself, tho... booting uncompressed Oct 09 12:46:06 so you cn boot a compresed kernel built from oe Oct 09 12:46:13 oh Oct 09 12:46:18 i tried. it hangs Oct 09 12:46:28 i can't completely boot my uncompressed version, either Oct 09 12:46:30 i get a kernel panic Oct 09 12:46:45 Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. Oct 09 12:47:02 enabling verbosity in kernel debugging reveals it's something to do with the filesystem Oct 09 12:47:02 that sounds like it isn't mounting the file system Oct 09 12:47:15 yeah, it says "You cannot use older JFFS2 filesystems with newer kernels" Oct 09 12:47:24 but i just did a fresh "build bootstrap-image" Oct 09 12:47:29 basically, at that point the kernel jhad completed booting Oct 09 12:47:35 it attempts to mount root Oct 09 12:47:49 the run /bin/init Oct 09 12:48:19 let me get you my exact defconfig... i forgot i changed a few things from Dirk's version Oct 09 12:48:20 1 sec Oct 09 12:49:14 bigd0g: looks like we will need to update mtd-utils Oct 09 12:49:30 Crofton: my version of osk defconfig :: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mME9CT90.html Oct 09 12:49:45 hrw|work: ahh, i see Oct 09 12:49:54 hrw|work: the battery is the only sure way, other than the sysrq keys Oct 09 12:50:02 Crofton: my version just has low level debugging enabled along with verbosity Oct 09 12:50:07 there is mtd-utils 1.0.0 finally Oct 09 12:50:33 psokolovsky: sure, just ask the question. I'm here intermittently Oct 09 12:50:55 hrw|work: this is good. there's some light at the end of my dark tunnel. :) Oct 09 12:52:02 bigd0g: what did you used to create that rootfs image? Oct 09 12:52:17 hrw|work: oe Oct 09 12:52:43 maybe a new pull of the oe.dev tree would get new version of the tools? Oct 09 12:52:43 RP: Thanks. So, what's the state of led classdev in mainline? Did it stabilize or more patches are in queue? If no, does that mean that all fancy stuff originally from John Lenz was reduced to what's now in mainline? Oct 09 12:52:45 bigd0g: interesting that jffs2 complain about it Oct 09 12:53:18 psokolovsky: It should be near enough equivalent to what John Lenz did - there are no patches in the queue for it Oct 09 12:53:30 hrw|work: there hasn't been a mtd-utils update to org.oe.dev recently, has there? Oct 09 12:53:46 psokolovsky: It was simplified a bit Oct 09 12:54:09 RP: i.e. the only way to make blinking led is to attach timer trigger to it, ist' no longer a core property of led, right? Oct 09 12:54:29 bigd0g: no Oct 09 12:54:40 psokolovsky: Right, most leds don't have a hardware way of configuring blinking Oct 09 12:54:45 * bigd0g wipes some sweat off his brow Oct 09 12:54:55 hrw|work: good... 'cause that would've really been a kick in the teeth :) Oct 09 12:55:04 bigd0g: we have 1.0.0 in OE Oct 09 12:55:21 we do not have native 1.0.0 anyway Oct 09 12:55:31 i see Oct 09 12:55:53 psokolovsky: Also, colours were decided to be exported as part of the led name Oct 09 12:56:27 RP: Ok, the question is how to use "hardware acceleration" for led blinking for the devices which support it. I read Documentation/led*.txt, and it suggests adding another sysfs attr for it. Well, that would be too machine dependent, imho. Oct 09 12:56:43 hrw|work: i just want to make sure i understand... so there probably is a version of mtd-utils that supports the new kernel? but right now, in oe, the 1.0.0 version present doesn not. right? Oct 09 12:56:55 bigd0g, can you emai lthe commands you use to get from vmlinux the the uImage file? Oct 09 12:57:04 Crofton: sure thing. Oct 09 12:57:07 RP: Another q is: can triggers be combined? A use case is a led blinking during charging. Oct 09 12:57:19 bigd0g: the only occurencies of 'this jffs2 is too old' which I got from google are from 2.4.18 or 2.5.4 kernels... Oct 09 12:57:42 psokolovsky: The question you need to ask is whether this "acceleration" is really needed, even if the hardware does support it Oct 09 12:57:50 hrw|work: do you think another rootfs type would fix it? Oct 09 12:58:04 psokolovsky: and no, triggers can't be combined. That makes no sense in the general case Oct 09 12:58:07 bigd0g: you can try to boot it over NFS? Oct 09 12:58:12 bigd0g: or with cramfs? Oct 09 12:58:46 i know neither of those. i've been putting off learning NFS, but i guess today is the day to learn Oct 09 12:58:57 psokolovsky: The idea was to have a small core that was supported on all hardware with minimal software overhead Oct 09 12:59:34 psokolovsky: You could add some common code machines with built in timer hardware could use Oct 09 13:00:04 psokolovsky: You'd still have to add support for machine specific triggers but I realise we're going to need that eventually anyway Oct 09 13:00:06 bigd0g: cramfs would be easier probably Oct 09 13:00:28 RP: well, I'd be happy to ignore led stuff at all for now. A mere calculation shows that a led is at least 75K times less important than LCD screen ;-). But we have breakage in hh.org CVS regarding that too, so I'd like to at least know current state of led classdev. Oct 09 13:01:30 RP: So, a design I had in mind is to make timer led trigger be able to extended with machine-specific "plugins" which would take "hardware acceleration" of blinking for the leds and ferquency ranges they can. Oct 09 13:01:51 RP: Do you think that would be right design or do you have any immediate concerns with it? Oct 09 13:02:47 hrw|work: noted. Oct 09 13:02:55 psokolovsky: Please don't extend the timer trigger. Add generic support for machine specific triggers and add a new hardware timer trigger Oct 09 13:03:37 I don't think there should be that much code duplication and I'd like to see the two as separate options Oct 09 13:03:46 RP: but that would mean userspace would need to be concerned if hardware supports blinking or no... ;-( Oct 09 13:04:33 psokolovsky: 'hardware_blink' attribute for led maybe? Oct 09 13:05:05 It is not a generic LED property so I really don't want an LED class attribute for it Oct 09 13:05:19 hrw|work, it would be just nice if kernel was level of abstraction which would hide such hardware details. Oct 09 13:05:30 I second that Oct 09 13:05:36 ko Oct 09 13:05:50 RP: http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ec5a19dd935eb3793e1f6ed491e8035b3d7b1df9 could be interesting to look at (SD multi block write) Oct 09 13:06:54 RP: ok, for now, we'll look into writing asic3-specific blinking trigger, and later see, if we can make that be machine-independent. Oct 09 13:06:59 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r954acd37... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): conf/distro/opendreambox-1.4,busybox: revert to busybox 1.01 until problems are fixed Oct 09 13:07:15 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r8117f09f... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules/dm600pvr: update drivers to 20061006 Oct 09 13:07:15 RP: Thanks for discussion. Oct 09 13:07:15 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1abd2c47... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): initscripts-opendreambox: fix links for dm600pvr, remove ipkg-cl for dm600pvr,dm7200,dm7025 Oct 09 13:07:15 psokolovsky: I know what you're saying and perhaps we can make the hardware timer replace the normal timer implementation in due course. Maybe give them the same name and machine specific triggers override the "normal" ones? Oct 09 13:07:38 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r7914d9bb... 10/ (1 packages/images/dreambox-image.bb): dreambox-image: use native less Oct 09 13:07:38 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf648a491... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-libtuxtxt.bb): tuxbox-libtuxtxt: update libtuxtxt to 20061005 Oct 09 13:07:38 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re95ed0a9... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): sysvinit/dm*: fix serial port Oct 09 13:07:38 ok Oct 09 13:09:04 hrw|work: I'd noticed that - it should give a nice speedup Oct 09 13:11:25 (btw, anybody else here who has problems with busysbox 1.2.1, regarding crashs on telnetd, less etc.?) Oct 09 13:15:52 tmbinc_: hey, I don't and THANK YOU :) Oct 09 13:16:10 got the hardware? :) Oct 09 13:17:21 yes :) Oct 09 13:19:46 Crofton: e-mail sent. that's everything i did. Oct 09 13:20:04 http://handhelds.org/~zecke/Foto%2085.jpg <- my new friend Oct 09 13:27:53 zecke: don't look now... but there's an ant Oct 09 13:27:54 ;) Oct 09 13:33:05 * Varoudis echo "Hello World!" Oct 09 13:35:39 Varoudis: kalimera Oct 09 13:38:10 hrw|work, kailispera (its afternoon ) Oct 09 13:38:18 sorry Kalispera Oct 09 13:41:08 hrw|work, got my mail? Oct 09 13:42:08 hrw|work: does OE have the ability to generate cramfs filesystems? Oct 09 13:42:33 i know you can specify the filesystem type in your local.conf file. Oct 09 13:42:38 Varoudis: daemonGR? Oct 09 13:42:47 i.e. mine has ext2, jffs2 right now Oct 09 13:42:49 yeap Oct 09 13:42:49 bigd0g: IMAGE_FSTYPES = "cramfs" Oct 09 13:43:00 hrw|work: excellent. thanks. Oct 09 13:43:09 Varoudis: we discussed such things on oedem and I have to rethink it Oct 09 13:43:37 Varoudis: to rather donate buildpower for OE then for OZ Oct 09 13:43:51 and now I have to reboot to win32 ;( Oct 09 13:43:56 so cu tomorrow guys Oct 09 13:44:11 hrw|work, what do you mean? Oct 09 13:44:13 windows has irc :o Oct 09 13:44:53 Varoudis: I'll post later Oct 09 13:44:55 bbl Oct 09 13:52:39 Can anybody please help me get around glibc not building? This is really annoying: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1421 Oct 09 13:53:04 It seems to build for others, why not for me? Oct 09 13:53:17 I have cleaned out tmp, etc. No help. Oct 09 13:55:51 best guess -> your local.conf is broken :) Oct 09 13:56:16 but your bug reports are most of the time meaningless Oct 09 13:56:57 e.g. saying "Compilation of glibc-2.4 fails" leaves way too many questions open Oct 09 13:59:58 Laibsch: your bug reports are among the worst I have ever met. E.g. you need to specify/attach: local.conf, what you build, what was built on the way (specially which versions of gcc) Oct 09 14:01:47 Sorry about that. I try to include stuff that I know is relevant. I have been scolded (I think even by you) that I included too much stuff. It is not easy to know what is relevant and what is not when one does not know where the problem is. And if I did, I'd fix it myself ;-) Oct 09 14:02:07 Laibsch: I hopefully sound friendly enough Oct 09 14:02:17 Laibsch: Let us bisect this. This is glibc Oct 09 14:02:31 Laibsch: glibc is the libc library, everything links the c library Oct 09 14:02:43 Laibsch: so this is really important bit -> toolchain Oct 09 14:02:45 Yes, so it is important. Oct 09 14:03:02 Laibsch: as so much depends on it, it has not much dependencies itself Oct 09 14:03:20 Laibsch: but some rather strict. e.g. building ntpl requires a gcc that supports threading Oct 09 14:03:37 Laibsch: this might not be the case Oct 09 14:03:49 Laibsch: glibc uses autoconf -> check config.log for the actual error Oct 09 14:04:05 Laibsch: attach the actual error if you can't investigate further :) Oct 09 14:04:42 ah we have a rule of thumb here Oct 09 14:04:55 If an autotools based app fails to configure -> check config.log Oct 09 14:05:31 OK, let's write something about all this in the wiki. That way, I will not forget and others can profit. Oct 09 14:11:31 Crofton: you around? your mailserver has my domain blacklisted. :-/ Oct 09 14:12:04 Laibsch: I don't know. People should know compilers, buildsystems, before using OpenEmbedded Oct 09 14:12:12 Laibsch: this is at least my believe Oct 09 14:12:32 (not needed to know them well) Oct 09 14:14:35 :) Oct 09 14:14:43 I don't know where the border is Oct 09 14:14:45 you are of course entitled to your opinion. I disagree. And I believe that despite me frequently being clueless I have contributed back to OE in no small amount. Oct 09 14:15:21 Laibsch: so take a look at config.log Oct 09 14:16:12 Laibsch: I'm currently not hungry/unterzuckert so I think I'm quite friendly (and I'm smiling as well) Oct 09 14:31:46 bigd0g, I didn't get an email from you .. Oct 09 14:33:50 Crofton: i just got a bounch. your domain blocks my university domain _and_ gmail Oct 09 14:34:00 s/bounch/bounce Oct 09 14:34:03 balister .org? Oct 09 14:34:06 yeah Oct 09 14:34:10 hmm Oct 09 14:34:10 well Oct 09 14:34:15 let me check from my gmail account Oct 09 14:34:22 vt.edu ... balister.org seems to bounce to vt.edu Oct 09 14:35:29 i.e. forward Oct 09 14:35:33 balister org should go to my home machine Oct 09 14:35:36 according to the bounce message i received, anyway Oct 09 14:35:42 philip at balister dot org Oct 09 14:36:39 maybe you didn't get the address quite right? Oct 09 14:36:55 i'll try again. it was a legit bounce message saying domain is blacklisted Oct 09 14:37:22 balister . org gets forwarded through zone edit I think Oct 09 14:38:12 Crofton: ok, i sent it to that exact address Oct 09 14:38:27 Crofton: for some reason, it was set to balister at balister . org Oct 09 14:38:34 I emailed myslef from gmail Oct 09 14:38:44 zecke: unterzuckert = sugar depravation? Oct 09 14:38:51 Crofton: and it worked? Oct 09 14:38:52 I should check where balister goes Oct 09 14:38:54 yes Oct 09 14:39:01 gmail -> philip works Oct 09 14:39:02 i think balister@ goes to vt.edu Oct 09 14:39:08 could be :) Oct 09 14:39:17 you must've mailed me from there at some point Oct 09 14:39:21 maybe vt thinks you are a spammer Oct 09 14:39:24 i don't usually e-mail stalk people :P Oct 09 14:39:35 I have too many addresses Oct 09 14:39:39 zecke: Don't worry. We know each other personally now and I think this helps interpreting each others utterings. I was not suggesting you sound unfriendly. I attached local.conf to the BTS. I restarted the build after commenting out the preferred providers stuff. Let's see if it works now. Oct 09 14:39:45 Crofton: the wpi.edu domain ends up in a lot of phishing scams, so it's possible Oct 09 14:39:58 Crofton: i contacted my sysadmins to contact the vt.edu sysadmins, anyway Oct 09 14:40:15 the vt admins, that run incoming mail servers are idiots Oct 09 14:40:32 I have bitched about the blacklisting b4 Oct 09 14:40:33 Crofton: i figured, that's why i'll let my admins (who aren't idiots) deal with them :) Oct 09 14:40:34 Laibsch: just attach config.log if you can't decide which info is relevant Oct 09 14:40:50 some guy claimed they dropped spam 30% using blacklists Oct 09 14:41:03 of course, he couldn't say how much of the 30% wasn't spam Oct 09 14:41:09 haha Oct 09 14:41:17 koen|away: can we install my bonsai on ltg? Oct 09 14:41:36 Crofton: we usde 'greylisting' Oct 09 14:41:45 zecke: I took a look at config.log and could not interpret it. If the build fails now too, I will attach it. Oct 09 14:41:48 I've heard of that Oct 09 14:41:55 Crofton: addresses only get blacklisted after they fail the greylist block Oct 09 14:41:59 it works quite well Oct 09 14:42:06 gets rid of all the problems with blacklisting Oct 09 14:42:20 you only have problems with odd mail server configurations (i.e. gmail) Oct 09 14:42:29 so we manually whitelist problematic mail servers Oct 09 14:42:35 Laibsch: actually, I hope that it fails again (we try to build a determenistic tool) Oct 09 14:43:08 Crofton: i've been trying to buid a cramfs filesystem for the last half-hour or so. bitbake is compiling away Oct 09 14:43:37 you should figure out nfs, it is pretty handy also Oct 09 14:44:02 zecke: I was wondering if maybe the preferred provider stuff (for which I forgot the reason why I ever added it) created a situation that triggers my problem. Oct 09 14:44:21 Crofton: yeah. you're right. Oct 09 14:44:29 bigd0g, did you resend the email? Oct 09 14:44:36 Crofton: yes Oct 09 14:44:42 Crofton: i'm guessing you didn't get it Oct 09 14:45:06 well, I'll give it a few minutes, just wanted to make sure it was sent again Oct 09 14:45:17 zecke: your wish was granted ;-) Oct 09 14:45:48 Crofton: i sent from gmail, too Oct 09 14:46:03 ok Oct 09 14:46:22 * zecke waits for the attachment Oct 09 14:51:08 Crofton: how about now? :) Oct 09 14:51:23 got it Oct 09 14:51:26 w00t! Oct 09 14:52:50 zecke: uploaded. Oct 09 15:05:18 configure:6568: checking for __thread Oct 09 15:05:18 configure:6577: arm-linux-gcc -march=armv4 -mtune=xscale -I/export/interim/openembedded/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -O2 -c conftest.c >&5 Oct 09 15:05:22 conftest.c:1: error: thread-local storage not supported for this target Oct 09 15:07:08 hrm. cramfs seems to yield no better results. but i'll keep playing Oct 09 15:08:18 Laibsch: now a guess: TLS is unsupported for armv4 (collie)? Oct 09 15:08:53 Laibsch: but I don't know this, I would have to take a look and lack the time to do that atm Oct 09 15:15:50 hullo Oct 09 15:15:53 anyone here use ubuntu? Oct 09 15:16:12 i have, yes. but you probably want #ubuntu Oct 09 15:16:28 bigd0g - well im talking about OE development on ubuntu Oct 09 15:16:32 siriusnova: And no, OE is not oesf ;-) Oct 09 15:16:36 oh ok :P Oct 09 15:16:49 siriusnova: I use ubuntu Oct 09 15:16:59 qemu fails to compile when i try to bitbake nano Oct 09 15:17:05 because of gcc i think Oct 09 15:17:09 so what should i do? Oct 09 15:17:25 zecke: Of course I do not know either if the collie supports TLS. Oct 09 15:18:41 i think qemu doesnt like gcc 4 Oct 09 15:18:48 did you do anything special for your OE setup? Oct 09 15:18:54 siriusnova: No Oct 09 15:18:55 i just followed the starting guide Oct 09 15:18:58 hrmm Oct 09 15:19:09 What target are you building for, machine and distro? Oct 09 15:19:14 I can try to verify. Oct 09 15:19:38 Laibsch - openzaurus Oct 09 15:19:42 Collie Oct 09 15:19:52 oz354x Collie Oct 09 15:20:12 OK, same here. Oct 09 15:20:34 Laibsch - are you using dapper? Oct 09 15:20:39 Let me try and compile this sucker. Is it really qemu that fails or is it earlier? Oct 09 15:20:41 yes, dapper. Oct 09 15:20:45 hmm Oct 09 15:20:50 i think its qemu Oct 09 15:20:57 give it a shot, care sending me your config file? Oct 09 15:20:58 Did you install all necessary packages: OE and your distro? Oct 09 15:21:20 i installed all the packages in the guide and then pulled the oz354x Oct 09 15:21:21 siriusnova: just take a look at bug 1421, I just uploaded it a few minutes ago ;-) Oct 09 15:21:23 with monotone Oct 09 15:21:25 hrmm k Oct 09 15:22:06 also could you send me your conf file so i have an example? Oct 09 15:22:10 for oz354x on collie Oct 09 15:22:42 apt-get install qemu Oct 09 15:22:58 ASSUME_PROVIDED += "qemu-native" in your local.conf Oct 09 15:23:49 that might work Oct 09 15:24:14 hrmm k Oct 09 15:26:22 hi all Oct 09 15:27:23 hi koen Oct 09 15:28:37 hi koen Oct 09 15:29:04 bigd0g, what was the readelf command to get the entry address? Oct 09 15:29:04 Laibsch - you still here? Oct 09 15:29:42 Crofton: grabbing... Oct 09 15:30:07 Laibsch - have you tried compiling the new konqueror does it work on OZ? Oct 09 15:30:14 Crofton: arm-linux-readelf -h vmlinux | grep Entry Oct 09 15:30:58 Dirk sent an email with using readelf, d you have a copy you can send me? Oct 09 15:31:29 hi koen Oct 09 15:31:31 Crofton: i will forward it again Oct 09 15:31:36 Back in .nl? Oct 09 15:31:41 Laibsch: yes Oct 09 15:31:43 I think I have the load addresses buggered Oct 09 15:32:03 siriusnova: I have never played with konw Oct 09 15:32:05 siriusnova: I have never played with konq Oct 09 15:32:19 Crofton: aye, you're using a virtual address right now. should be 0x10008000 Oct 09 15:32:45 i think it's 0x10c08000 (or something similar), at the moment Oct 09 15:33:23 Laibsch - would you mind compiling the new konq for me? Oct 09 15:33:47 I just started qemu, so please be patient. Oct 09 15:33:48 konqueror-embedded_20050322.bb Oct 09 15:33:55 oh ok Oct 09 15:34:16 i would do it but my system doesnt work atm and its the _only_ browser on opie Oct 09 15:34:16 :/ Oct 09 15:34:23 the 2003 version doesnt have many features Oct 09 15:35:22 Crofton: do i have to enable cramfs support in the kernel somewhere? Oct 09 15:35:40 probably ... Oct 09 15:35:46 Crofton: it seems altho i have a cramfs filesystem loaded, i still get 'bag magic bitmasks' for jffs2 scrolling Oct 09 15:35:47 hrm... Oct 09 15:35:48 ok Oct 09 15:35:50 do a make xconfig in the kernel source Oct 09 15:35:52 * bigd0g hunts around Oct 09 15:35:55 yeah Oct 09 15:36:08 bigd0g: check endianess of the JFFS2 image Oct 09 15:36:21 likewise: i'm trying to use a cramfs filesystem Oct 09 15:36:46 bigd0g: ok, don't know if it has certain endianess (squashfs does, for example) Oct 09 15:37:06 likewise: i don't know if cramfs does, either :) it was just a suggestion by hrw to pursue Oct 09 15:37:33 bigd0g: I am testing cramfs and squashfs as this moment for the IXP4xx platform :-) Oct 09 15:37:52 likewise: do you know where i enable cramfs support in the kernel? :) Oct 09 15:38:11 ...or if i have to. or anything crazy that i probably haven't done yet because i know nil about cramfs Oct 09 15:38:17 filesystems->miscellaneous filesystems Oct 09 15:38:20 (i think) Oct 09 15:38:24 cheers Oct 09 15:38:41 i wish they would alphabetize the menus :) Oct 09 15:38:45 at least the top level one Oct 09 15:38:59 siriusnova: You might want to think about getting OE to work. Should not be that hard. Oct 09 15:39:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4b735586... 10/ (1 classes/oelint.bbclass conf/documentation.conf): oelint.bbclass, documentation.conf: update OE email address Oct 09 15:39:57 likewise: thanks. found it. :) Oct 09 15:40:09 now i've got to re-compile and start over. oy veigh Oct 09 15:40:34 bigd0g: use "make -j3" or so to quicken the build Oct 09 15:40:40 j3 ? Oct 09 15:40:43 what's that do? Oct 09 15:40:52 parallel make Oct 09 15:40:55 ? Oct 09 15:41:05 bigd0g: tells make it can spawn 3 compiles in parallel. Helps a lot on my machine. Oct 09 15:41:06 useful for multi core machine Oct 09 15:41:15 oh Oct 09 15:41:23 probably not useful for me. slow laptop :( Oct 09 15:41:23 try #2 just made it Oct 09 15:41:27 Crofton: even for uniprocessor machines, as it removes the disk-i/o wait idleness Oct 09 15:41:54 likewise: thanks, i've noted the switch Oct 09 15:42:07 "’umba-umba’ is a new technical term I learned this weekend, roughly, but not precisely, meaning ‘whatever’)" Oct 09 15:42:13 hehe Oct 09 15:42:25 I have read tomas blog as well Oct 09 15:43:02 zecke: mai thai imbiss an der gneisenau strasse ist sehr gut Oct 09 15:43:10 koen: 'whatever' as a stand-alone remark, or in a full sentence? "Choose umba-umba filesystem suits you best?" Oct 09 15:43:33 likewise: I use umba-umba distribution and umba-umba does not work Oct 09 15:43:36 'choose umba-umba-fs' :) Oct 09 15:43:45 So its like yada-yada Oct 09 15:44:14 I booted the image, and yada-yada-yada the LCD melted Oct 09 15:44:33 probably make a umba.conf then, so that you can point to it for people that use the umba distro. Oct 09 15:44:50 (like me :-) ) Oct 09 15:49:33 yay, got that squashfs 3.1 thingie working on ARM. Needs CFLAGS_inode.o = "-O2" to override -Os in order to workaround a GCC ICE. Will continue tomorrow. Oct 09 15:49:59 Wonder if anyone ran into GCC inconsistency failures with squashfs/arm? Oct 09 15:52:21 koen: koen --- packages/maemo/gconf-osso/no-po-no-examples.diff! Oct 09 15:52:37 koen: why is that in your maintainer patch? Oct 09 15:53:02 koen: so what did you do yesterday, today? Oct 09 15:53:03 zecke: NO_MAINTAINER_MODE ? Oct 09 15:53:16 koen: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE/remove-maintainers.patch Oct 09 15:53:36 Crofton: haha. that 2nd e-mail just made it? wow. Oct 09 15:54:56 zecke: ok, patch updated Oct 09 15:55:20 any HTML/XHTML/Web dev around? Oct 09 15:55:29 I need someone to sanitize some templates for me Oct 09 15:55:42 koen: do you know if TLS should work on collie? Oct 09 15:55:44 zecke: I know and

Oct 09 15:55:53 zecke: TLS is present in 2.6 Oct 09 15:56:04 koen, is there any thought of keeping some contact info in the bb files? Oct 09 15:56:06 zecke: or use the pitre-tls.patch from the hh.org 2.4 kernel Oct 09 15:56:06 koen: TLS can be emulated as well Oct 09 15:56:21 koen: but gcc supports tls for armv4 as well? Oct 09 15:56:51 zecke: it should Oct 09 15:56:54 a+ Oct 09 15:59:42 Laibsch: so find out which gcc's got build and attach arm-linux-gcc --version to the bug Oct 09 16:01:39 bigd0g, my git failed to update, so I am blowing it away Oct 09 16:01:51 you might want to make sure you do not have the same problem Oct 09 16:02:39 Crofton: how can i check? when i cleaned the bb file and ran it again, it said "all up to date" Oct 09 16:02:48 sounds good Oct 09 16:02:52 ok Oct 09 16:02:54 I had a merge fail in clock.c Oct 09 16:03:06 oh, because of the patch Oct 09 16:03:12 i only applied it after i got the git Oct 09 16:03:15 I am not much of a git guy Oct 09 16:03:17 the patch modifies clock.c Oct 09 16:03:44 I am hoping that stuff starts working with the entry point change Oct 09 16:04:09 Crofton: was the git trying to merge with your change? if you applied the patch, that was probably the issue Oct 09 16:04:32 I do not think I tried modifying the git sourcec Oct 09 16:04:48 blowing it away was the easiest approach Oct 09 16:04:49 did you modify your local kernel, tho... with the patch i gave you? Oct 09 16:04:53 yeah, treu Oct 09 16:04:54 now time for lunch Oct 09 16:04:58 s/treu/true Oct 09 16:05:00 kk Oct 09 16:05:01 I am avaoiding LL debug for now Oct 09 16:05:05 ah, ok Oct 09 16:05:30 I hope the git tree gets all these updates soon Oct 09 16:05:41 me too Oct 09 16:05:59 it's odd that they haven't been added Oct 09 16:06:06 i don't know what they're waiting for Oct 09 16:11:23 Screw you guys, I'm going home Oct 09 16:11:55 nice Oct 09 16:12:57 lol ... randome quote check ... south park, ftw Oct 09 16:13:05 s/randome/random Oct 09 16:13:05 yeah, we know Oct 09 16:13:06 thanks Oct 09 16:13:13 hi CosmicPenguin Oct 09 16:13:26 chouimat: hey - did you get that job? Oct 09 16:14:06 RP: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21679&hl=poky Oct 09 16:14:59 CosmicPenguin: I don't know ... had the second interview last week .... waiting for feedback (positive or negative) Oct 09 16:15:23 * chouimat is listening to Here's To The Man by Sausage on Riddles Are Abound Tonight [Amarok] Oct 09 16:20:23 hrm. this doesn't make any sense. a re-compiled kernel with cramfs support still spits out jffs2 errors to a cramfs filesystem Oct 09 16:20:27 "jffs2_scan_eraseblock()" Oct 09 16:21:01 yeah - that will happen Oct 09 16:21:14 but then it never mounts the cramfs filesystem. Oct 09 16:21:20 am i missing something else? Oct 09 16:21:44 The way the kernel detects the filesystem is by probing everything that is built in Oct 09 16:22:21 so even under the best situations you should see a bit of noise if it happens that jffs2 scans before cramfs Oct 09 16:22:23 Anyone know how ntfs support is in linux? I know reading has worked well for awhile ... Oct 09 16:22:48 but jffs2 shouldn't move beyond the probe unless it sees its magic bits - if that happens, then you probably screwed up Oct 09 16:23:13 Kristoffer: seems to work for me :) Oct 09 16:23:21 it definitely doesn't find it's magic bits, but it doesn't appear to scan for cramfs Oct 09 16:23:38 does it scan for one filesystem X number of times before moving on? Oct 09 16:24:08 chouimat, even writing? Oct 09 16:24:32 Kristoffer: didn't tried this one yet Oct 09 16:24:55 CosmicPenguin: it eventually just failed with a kernel panic, never looked for the cramfs filesystem Oct 09 16:25:19 sounds like a configuration problem Oct 09 16:25:50 hrm. compiled with cramfs support enabled. not sure what else i can 'configure' Oct 09 16:26:35 ohhh Oct 09 16:26:44 i bet i know what's wrong... Oct 09 16:26:54 * bigd0g goes back to tinkering Oct 09 16:27:29 nope Oct 09 16:27:47 i lied. i thought you could specify filesystem when you do a manual kernel copy Oct 09 16:27:50 you can't Oct 09 16:30:13 hi Oct 09 16:30:37 hi hrw Oct 09 16:31:16 hey hrw Oct 09 16:33:00 ok, I can boot a kernel built with OE from git again Oct 09 16:33:14 now to try a file system Oct 09 16:33:20 Crofton: great Oct 09 16:34:08 The old entry address used to work .. I swear Oct 09 16:37:39 i know it did Oct 09 16:37:41 i was using it Oct 09 16:37:42 heh Oct 09 16:37:54 i'm trying (for about the 5th time) with a cramfs filesystem Oct 09 16:38:08 i forgot to set the u-boot env var to 'cramfs' :( Oct 09 16:38:35 hopefully I can at least replicate your problem this afternoon Oct 09 16:38:57 yeah. otherwise, i'm a 'special case' Oct 09 16:39:05 and that has 'doomed' written all over it ;) Oct 09 16:47:17 hrw: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/index.php/v/Koen/confs/oedem2006/?q=gallery&g2_statusId=x4cd7b9ab&g2_navId=xcf39b43a Oct 09 16:48:04 thx Oct 09 16:48:25 getting alot of NOTE: Fetch svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdelibs/dcop/;module=dcopidl Oct 09 16:48:25 svn: error while loading shared libraries: libneon.so.24: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Oct 09 16:48:43 Kristoffer: that means your computer is broken Oct 09 16:48:46 need to reinstall svn i guess Oct 09 16:49:10 koen, yeah I suspected as much... :D just had a brain leakage trying to fix it inside OE :) Oct 09 16:54:54 zecke: yes, you should install bonsai on ltg :) Oct 09 16:55:11 koen: I had a mail saying the same Oct 09 16:55:32 ah, right, you are reading mail again Oct 09 16:55:36 koen: you can create a database for me, install python-svn Oct 09 16:55:45 koen: macbook back -> zecke reads mail Oct 09 16:56:23 zecke: python-svn installed Oct 09 16:56:58 koen: install django :) Oct 09 16:57:16 wget http://www.djangoproject.com/download/0.95/tarball/ Oct 09 16:57:29 python setup.py install Oct 09 16:57:37 maybe even call test Oct 09 16:59:13 Installed /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Django-0.95-py2.3.egg Oct 09 16:59:18 bah. i still can't mount a filesystem Oct 09 16:59:22 hehe Oct 09 16:59:57 Crofton: can you send me your u-boot env variables ? Oct 09 17:00:28 zap: ping? Oct 09 17:00:52 koen: I will get me something to eat, then add mtn support to bonsai Oct 09 17:01:41 zecke: have a look at viewmtn's source and contrib/ in mtn Oct 09 17:02:07 zecke: to bonsai? awesome. Oct 09 17:02:36 njs: to our django based bonsai :) Oct 09 17:03:17 err... so not bonsai? Oct 09 17:03:26 zap: ops. my mistake Oct 09 17:03:48 "I'm so confused" Oct 09 17:04:11 njs: I'm writing my own Bonsai like webapp Oct 09 17:04:39 njs: which produces HTML like output (

+

) Oct 09 17:04:40 "team is also has" is English? I was rather thinking about "team also has"... Oct 09 17:05:03 hrw: right s/is// Oct 09 17:05:14 zecke: don't forget
Oct 09 17:05:20 njs: it indexes Authors, Dates, CSets, File Changes which can be queried Oct 09 17:05:41 koen: I didn't use that. I thought about doing str.replace(\n,'
') Oct 09 17:06:07 zecke: hrw taught me
is obsolete :) Oct 09 17:06:42 it is not obsolete in html2 Oct 09 17:06:45 koen:
is better but also should be avoided Oct 09 17:06:50 he should be happy I have used table and not frame Oct 09 17:07:41 zecke: for tabular data
is correct so I do not see it wrong Oct 09 17:07:42 ~dict triage Oct 09 17:07:47 Dictionary 'triage' sorting and allocating aid on the basis of need for or likely benefit from medical treatment or food Oct 09 17:08:18 koen: who needs Web2.0 if you have HTML2.0? Oct 09 17:08:18 zecke: postgres@serenity:~$ Oct 09 17:08:23 koen: let me finish my food first Oct 09 17:08:45 njs: Now you are awake. Do you have experience with spi-inc.org? Oct 09 17:09:14 mickeyl: o fsck.. this spitz is pre-3.5.4.1... Oct 09 17:11:44 f00ding... might be on later tonight... Oct 09 17:16:30 hrw: yeah, it's pretty old Oct 09 17:17:12 mickeyl: upgrading now Oct 09 17:19:03 upgraded to 3.5.4.1 Oct 09 17:20:09 mickeyl: got a link for the amsterdam thing? Oct 09 17:20:58 Upgrading kernel on root from 2.6.16-r40 to 2.6.16-r49... Oct 09 17:21:17 iirc my newer bt dongle want 500mA so it will be good check Oct 09 17:21:31 ~lart logitech for their keyboard/mouse bt dongles Oct 09 17:21:31 * ibot throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at logitech for their keyboard/mouse bt dongles Oct 09 17:21:35 * chouimat|busy tries to understand why is network connection is fscking sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow today Oct 09 17:22:54 I wonder why no parted in oz 3.5.4.1... Oct 09 17:23:09 err, the famous "kde-config not found" has returned when trying to build konqueror-embedded-20060404... Oct 09 17:24:06 FSCK. Oct 09 17:24:12 florian_kc: remember my hint about locations for the gpe framework? Oct 09 17:24:12 something removed my ipkg.conf Oct 09 17:24:22 koen: i can't find the conference on internet. i don't even know the name and 7th and 8th november seems to be not enough information Oct 09 17:24:35 florian_kc: http://live.gnome.org/GeoClue :) Oct 09 17:28:09 koen: heh indeed Oct 09 17:29:00 mickeyl: http://www.informatm.com/marlin/30000000861/OPTION_VIEW/marketingid/20001437372/productid/20001437373/optionid/20001437380?proceed=true&MarEntityId=1160401838417&entHash=100232142be Oct 09 17:29:16 "A Representative, MontaVista Software, USA" Oct 09 17:29:27 * koen brings some throwable tomatoes Oct 09 17:29:33 that looks like to be it Oct 09 17:29:45 i will be there, btw. Oct 09 17:30:57 koen: start to collect also eggs on sunny place Oct 09 17:31:06 GBP 1,998.00 + BTW (Netherlands) @ 19% Oct 09 17:31:34 so either I buy a tricked out macbook pro or listen to montevista drivel for 3 days Oct 09 17:32:05 uah Oct 09 17:32:08 that's insane Oct 09 17:32:26 *shrug* Oct 09 17:32:28 i'm not paying :D Oct 09 17:32:32 hehe Oct 09 17:32:44 hmm, bruce perens is there as well Oct 09 17:33:02 koen bring more tomatoes then ;) Oct 09 17:33:09 chouimat|busy: :) Oct 09 17:33:16 don't you dare throwing them at our stand! Oct 09 17:33:19 :D Oct 09 17:34:32 ~hail parted Oct 09 17:34:33 * ibot bows down to parted and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 09 17:35:08 1G / 1G /home 0.5G swap and rest for /media/hdd now Oct 09 17:35:23 mickeyl: I now know why 'embedded' linux has such low community buy-in Oct 09 17:35:43 koen: why? Oct 09 17:35:43 mickeyl: any event worth attending will cost you an arm and leg Oct 09 17:35:48 oh yeah Oct 09 17:35:50 that's insane. Oct 09 17:35:53 koen: add into that costs of devboards Oct 09 17:36:10 hrw: you can get devboards for ~$100 if you want Oct 09 17:36:52 mickeyl: ari jaaksi will be there as well, so you can lart him for the non-scalability of maemo Oct 09 17:36:54 hm. sounds better Oct 09 17:37:09 bbl in 20 Oct 09 17:37:33 (parted) resize 2 1024 2048 Oct 09 17:37:33 No Implementation: This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet). Oct 09 17:37:36 ;( Oct 09 17:40:13 hmm Oct 09 17:40:28 I get the Starting the hotplug events dispathcer message Oct 09 17:40:36 So I mounted root I think Oct 09 17:40:51 then omapflash.0 buffer write error Oct 09 17:41:07 and Write clean marker to block failed Oct 09 17:41:21 long pasue Oct 09 17:41:28 and login prompt Oct 09 17:41:29 YAY Oct 09 17:42:11 RP: I get the impression from the gnome-perf list that profile not made by sysprof will get ignored Oct 09 17:44:29 Anyone remember what caused the "kde-config not found" bug. Its reappeard for me, and cant remember how it got fixed last time Oct 09 17:45:09 Kristoffer: that's a sympton of having kde on your system Oct 09 17:45:37 koen, but I dont have KDE... Oct 09 17:46:09 koen, I've checked and I dont got kdelibs installed or kde wm Oct 09 17:46:46 Kristoffer: then install kdelibs ;) Oct 09 17:46:50 :D Oct 09 17:47:12 worth a try I guess Oct 09 17:50:14 re Oct 09 17:50:21 "init 1" does not work on Zaurus Oct 09 18:07:41 zecke: I updated http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1421 with the info you requested. Oct 09 18:11:46 re Oct 09 18:16:24 Laibsch: do me a favor and use a machine like c7x0 just to test Oct 09 18:16:42 Laibsch: they shuld report more! Oct 09 18:16:47 OK Oct 09 18:16:51 Laibsch: e.g. the configure options and features ;) Oct 09 18:16:55 Laibsch: don't truncate this Oct 09 18:18:19 koen: do you know how to change the email address of an existing bugzilla user? (i.e. can you do it to bugs.oe.org?) Oct 09 18:18:37 change it in the user prefs Oct 09 18:18:48 that's how I did it for oe@hh -> oe-devel Oct 09 18:18:50 hmm Oct 09 18:18:53 can you do it again? Oct 09 18:18:56 i didn't find such a setting Oct 09 18:20:11 " There is already an account with the login name openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org." Oct 09 18:20:18 yeah Oct 09 18:20:21 i set that one up Oct 09 18:20:31 only to find that it doesn't do good Oct 09 18:20:38 because we need to change all existing email entries Oct 09 18:20:44 s/email// Oct 09 18:20:51 mickeyl: click on the 'users' link at the bottom, search for 'devel', click on the entry and change the login name Oct 09 18:21:06 hmm Oct 09 18:21:09 login name is email address? Oct 09 18:21:14 yes Oct 09 18:21:18 d'oh Oct 09 18:21:22 linked to some UID in the db Oct 09 18:23:10 ok, this could work now Oct 09 18:23:16 * mickeyl subscribes to oe-issues Oct 09 18:23:38 mickeyl: done Oct 09 18:24:00 oh you did it as well Oct 09 18:24:00 heh Oct 09 18:24:31 * mickeyl subscribes oe-users as well Oct 09 18:25:00 So does this mean I can disregard mickey's mail? Oct 09 18:25:06 Or do I still need to take a look? Oct 09 18:25:21 ggilbert: wouldn't hurt if you could ACK that the settings are ok now Oct 09 18:25:34 k Oct 09 18:26:00 thanks Oct 09 18:27:04 looks good Oct 09 18:27:53 w00t Oct 09 18:27:59 my OSK boots and runs Oct 09 18:28:39 Crofton: cool Oct 09 18:28:45 the udev stuff takes forever to setup Oct 09 18:29:04 I need to find a way to resize /dev/hda1 on spitz.. Oct 09 18:29:09 like hangs for a minute or so Oct 09 18:29:48 syntetize? Oct 09 18:30:11 I think so Oct 09 18:30:25 hrw, you do not have an OSK personally? Oct 09 18:31:11 Crofton: do not have Oct 09 18:32:03 mickeyl: I also ran the sed script to unbreak the archives Oct 09 18:32:39 zecke: how was your food? Oct 09 18:32:47 hehe Oct 09 18:32:50 siesta time Oct 09 18:33:00 koen: Hmm there should be a python mtn binding Oct 09 18:33:20 koen: excellent Oct 09 18:34:04 zecke: viewmtn should have one (or ask njs) Oct 09 18:36:16 need to start working... Oct 09 18:37:58 koen: so you created a database for the bonsai yet? Oct 09 18:38:13 zecke: no, waiting for your instructions Oct 09 18:38:44 koen: which viewmtn should I use? ours or the upstream version? Oct 09 18:38:56 koen: well just create a database, assign user and pw to manage it :) Oct 09 18:39:06 zecke: the new upstream version Oct 09 18:39:09 koen: postgres, sqlite or mysql Oct 09 18:39:14 zecke: grahame put in a lot of work recently Oct 09 18:44:42 zecke: I think you can create a sqlite db yourself :) Oct 09 18:45:30 yes! Oct 09 18:45:42 koen: I even use sqlite on my internal server Oct 09 18:45:53 koen: because apachae was tough enough Oct 09 18:46:06 IOW, I too underzuckert to grok postgres Oct 09 18:46:22 koen: install webmin ;) Oct 09 18:47:06 BTW: Apple+W is the best feature ever Oct 09 18:47:16 koen: sadly banshee is a bad copy of itunes :( Oct 09 18:47:23 it's too close to apple-q Oct 09 18:48:37 koen: I clicked on the 'x' of banshee three times in the row Oct 09 18:48:45 koen: and this app exited :) Oct 09 18:48:49 koen, any likelyhood that me having QT installed on my machine could create the kde-config not found error? Oct 09 18:49:03 Kristoffer: no, is that konq e again? Oct 09 18:49:12 zecke: I installed qt 4.2 on my mac yesterday Oct 09 18:49:26 koen: graphicsview is really neat Oct 09 18:49:43 zecke, yeah.. Got the bug back again. No idea why it went away, or why it came back Oct 09 18:50:46 Kristoffer: this apps needs more patching Oct 09 18:51:00 Kristoffer: konqe has a mini copy of KDElibs anyway... Oct 09 18:51:13 Laibsch: did you try adding Oct 09 18:51:18 Laibsch: GLIBC_ADDONS = "ntpl" Oct 09 18:51:20 zecke, yeah most likely. I didnt have KDE installed (aside from QT), and installing kdelibs (just for the fun of it) didnt do any difference. Oct 09 18:51:26 Laibsch: GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-tls" Oct 09 18:51:29 Laibsch: to your build? Oct 09 18:51:47 mickeyl: oh, gcc needs to have --with-threaded already Oct 09 18:52:01 mickeyl: I though koen did that when battling with TLS/GLIBC Oct 09 18:52:02 zecke, any suggestions? should I just patch to make it skip kde-config? The problem seems to lie in where it cannot find the kde-config supplied by OE Oct 09 18:52:18 zecke: yeah, but he probably didn't do it for openzaurus/collie Oct 09 18:52:25 zecke: oh you mean globally Oct 09 18:52:26 dunno Oct 09 18:52:39 I bet 2.4.crappix doesn't support tls Oct 09 18:52:59 koen: it has nothing to do with kernel headers! Oct 09 18:53:11 koen: so even 1.2 ueber crappix would not make a difference :) Oct 09 18:53:25 zecke: I just blame crappix for everything :) Oct 09 18:54:22 why is OZ trying to build glibc 2.4? Oct 09 18:55:09 mickeyl: No, I did not try. I will do that after the current compile finishes. Oct 09 18:55:48 oh, it did finish. It failed. zecke, I will let you know the results after dinner. Oct 09 18:55:58 koen: that was my thought as well Oct 09 18:56:01 Laibsch: guten appetit Oct 09 18:56:12 koen: but it should compile, at least not bail out at this point Oct 09 18:56:47 crappix = knoppix? Oct 09 18:56:52 zecke: well, is glib-internmedia configure proberly? Oct 09 18:57:20 Kristoffer: no crappix == embedix :) Oct 09 18:57:34 aha Oct 09 18:58:23 Kristoffer: just ask hrw what he thinks of the sharp 2.4 kernel :) Oct 09 19:00:03 hehe Oct 09 19:00:08 hvontres|poodle: same as rest of OZ team Oct 09 19:00:30 zecke: fwiw, pb_ has patches to teach 2.4.x EABI Oct 09 19:03:30 :D Oct 09 19:03:37 speaking about pb_... Oct 09 19:03:39 i really miss him Oct 09 19:03:45 guess i should write him an email Oct 09 19:03:51 btw, anyone know what package contains kde-config (in gentoo if known) Oct 09 19:04:18 Kristoffer: you don't want to have that package, since it will mess up the build further Oct 09 19:04:32 ah, oki Oct 09 19:04:32 Kristoffer: please fix the KDE autofoo Oct 09 19:04:49 koen: actually these informations will not be used... Oct 09 19:04:57 zecke, yeah will do.. I've had this error long enough Oct 09 19:05:13 koen: but there is no one in kde understanding autofoo, so we are now using cmake (which more people understand) Oct 09 19:06:01 mickeyl: that's a good idea... i sent him one some days ago but no response so far. Oct 09 19:06:04 zecke: no-one understands autofoo Oct 09 19:08:11 florian: ok, i will do that Oct 09 19:14:44 RP: is it normal that spitz battery still has 65% charge after ~hour with charger connected (but powered on)? Oct 09 19:29:03 zecke: do I need to config some mod_python foo on ltg? Oct 09 19:29:28 koen: yes Oct 09 19:29:43 koen: http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/modpython/ Oct 09 19:30:01 koen: two pitfals: omit the last slash in Location... Oct 09 19:30:08 koen: and set the PythonPath properly Oct 09 19:31:27 zecke: on seconds thought: the OE website has AllowOverride set to All Oct 09 19:31:35 zecke: so just put in a .htaccess Oct 09 19:31:36 RP: jumped once to 68% and then back to 65% Oct 09 19:31:56 koen: yeS? what has this to do with Location? Oct 09 19:32:39 zecke: isn't .htaccess an implicit ? Oct 09 19:33:00 no Oct 09 19:33:13 Location says for /foo/ use this SetHandler Oct 09 19:33:33 koen: so out python installation sits somewhere... Oct 09 19:33:42 koen: e.g. my homedir Oct 09 19:34:02 koen: just create a bonsai-foo in sites-available Oct 09 19:34:08 the comments on the django site say "For configurations that server multiple domain names, it probably makes more sense to use ... instead of ... like it says in the tutorial." Oct 09 19:34:31 and directory works in .htaccess Oct 09 19:34:50 koen: comments is like a forum Oct 09 19:34:57 zecke: and please put in the OE webspace Oct 09 19:34:58 koen: do you trust a forum? Oct 09 19:35:51 zecke: I trust no one Oct 09 19:36:02 koen: I can only say Location works Oct 09 19:36:22 koen: and what we want is a location. map an installation somewhere Oct 09 19:49:00 hrw: I have noticed that the spitz's battery charging rate is much lower when the unit is powered on Oct 09 19:49:19 so i suspended it Oct 09 19:49:35 it was 65,65,68,65,68,65 etc Oct 09 19:50:05 hrw: when suspended a full charge should occur within 4 hours Oct 09 19:51:47 hrw: however if the Li-ion battery is older than 3 years, you may be seeing age-related problems... Oct 09 19:55:10 kerwood: its rather hard to find 3 years old spitz... Oct 09 19:55:51 hrw: :) Oct 09 20:04:32 zecke: cu tomorrow in munich Oct 09 20:04:39 all: cu on friday Oct 09 20:06:28 mickey|ttdevdays: later! Oct 09 20:06:33 re Oct 09 20:07:42 koen: how did you revive your a780? Oct 09 20:07:44 koen: mine is completely dead as well Oct 09 20:07:59 zecke: with the charger Oct 09 20:08:15 the one that outputs +5v 1A all the time Oct 09 20:08:21 damn it is in the office :( Oct 09 20:15:16 RP: can I set bMaxPower to anything I want? Oct 09 20:16:08 hrw Oct 09 20:16:13 you around? Oct 09 20:18:56 mickey|ttdevdays: ping? Oct 09 20:19:02 mickey|ttdevdays: could you bring your moto charger? Oct 09 20:19:30 zecke: http://thomaskeller.biz/monotone/guitone.app.tar.bz2 Oct 09 20:19:47 koen: will that charge my moto? Oct 09 20:20:08 :) Oct 09 20:22:03 ~lart USB chargers... Oct 09 20:22:04 * ibot makes a balloon animal out of USB chargers... Oct 09 20:22:14 oh, pretty Oct 09 20:22:15 thanks ibot! Oct 09 20:40:02 zecke: there are a bunch of half-*ssed python mtn bindings. someone needs to sit down and merge them :-) Oct 09 20:40:20 if test "x$prefix" = "xNONE"; then Oct 09 20:40:20 dnl no prefix given: look for kde-config in the PATH and deduce the prefix Oct 09 20:40:21 zecke: Updated bug 1421: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=916 Oct 09 20:40:31 njs: I can do the sitting down part :) Oct 09 20:40:32 gosh I hate darwinports... Oct 09 20:40:55 they fuck up my system... who needs key up and down in python shell anyway Oct 09 20:41:05 and left and right... Oct 09 20:41:43 Crofton: pong Oct 09 20:42:02 zecke, seems like konqueror wants some prefix defined, otherwise it wants kde-config (to get the prefix from there) Oct 09 20:42:06 I have a booting kernel and file system based on curent git now Oct 09 20:42:17 Kristoffer: unlikely Oct 09 20:42:30 conftest.s:8: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `(' Oct 09 20:42:30 zecke, how you mean? Oct 09 20:42:32 weird Oct 09 20:42:32 Crofton: great - can you push working kernel recipe? Oct 09 20:42:38 yeah Oct 09 20:42:38 Kristoffer: just fix their m4 stuff, or wait until I sit down Oct 09 20:42:42 that looks like it's trying to run that binary Oct 09 20:42:52 zecke, that is from their acinclude.m4 Oct 09 20:42:56 Kristoffer: konqe has its own copy of all KDE libs Oct 09 20:43:01 Once it sees more testing I'll lock to a git rev Oct 09 20:43:04 Kristoffer: there is no need to call kde-config at all Oct 09 20:43:06 or tag if one occurs Oct 09 20:43:39 zecke, I've updated http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1067 with the lines from their (kdelibs) acinclude.m4 Oct 09 20:44:45 Crofton: great it would be Oct 09 20:45:19 koen: then we're half-way there! Oct 09 20:45:22 tag it 'umba-umba' :) Oct 09 20:45:38 * koen decides it's time to sleep Oct 09 20:45:40 koen: one day I will trademark it Oct 09 20:46:04 zecke, Im not sure if im looking at the wrong place, but it looks to me that it uses kde-config as a backup if no x$prefix is given Oct 09 20:49:52 Kristoffer: could be, but I'm sure we pass --prefix Oct 09 20:50:02 njs: oh, I think I will create just another bad wrapper Oct 09 20:50:23 njs: all I want is a list of new revisions from the time I have last looked into a db... Oct 09 20:50:47 zecke: the ciabot and buildbot wrappers do that, actually :-) Oct 09 20:51:05 (except if you want to actually _parse_ the new revisions, you probably want to steal code from viewmtn too) Oct 09 20:51:05 njs: which branches are they in? Oct 09 20:51:23 njs: yes, the automator stuff looks really nice in viewmtn Oct 09 20:51:25 zecke: ciabot is in contrib/ in the source distro Oct 09 20:51:55 stealing from viewmtn in any case might be best, you might have to add a wrapper for automate ancestry_difference, but that is not that big a deal Oct 09 20:52:14 hub 1-2:1.0: 48mA over power budget! Oct 09 20:52:16 hub 1-2:1.0: 146mA over power budget! Oct 09 20:52:18 nice Oct 09 20:52:44 njs: oh is ancestry_difference new? Oct 09 20:53:07 no, it's been around forever, just I bet viewmtn doesn't have any use for it Oct 09 20:53:36 it's interface is exactly the same as all the other revision querying monotone commands, though :-) Oct 09 20:54:46 njs: will it cross branches? e.g. if I ask for heads of a branch and use that as NEW_REV? Oct 09 20:54:52 njs: will I stay within the same branch? Oct 09 20:54:58 it doesn't care about branches Oct 09 20:55:06 makes sense Oct 09 20:55:21 it lives one layer down Oct 09 20:55:27 but you could post-process it easily enough Oct 09 20:55:43 njs: post process in python, or can mtn itself filter it? Oct 09 20:56:13 in python Oct 09 20:56:24 well, with monotone's help. but monotone won't do the loop for you. Oct 09 20:56:26 njs: thanks a lot. I will move to bed now Oct 09 20:56:45 the primary use case of my bonsai is to find revisions easily Oct 09 20:56:53 e.g. when did we delete foo file Oct 09 20:57:08 if you're using automate stdio, you can do the postprocessing about as fast as mtn could anyway, and much more flexibly Oct 09 20:57:11 nod Oct 09 20:57:21 and full-text search on changelogs, and maybe diffs, that sort of thing? Oct 09 20:57:38 zecke, the only times kde-config is mentioned in acinclude.m4 is when it tries to determine $kde_default_bindirs Oct 09 20:57:39 full-text search of logs (not by regexp though) Oct 09 20:57:58 Kristoffer: I think it will be fine just to kick that out Oct 09 20:58:23 njs: but I still need to look into the HTTP post feature to do really complex queries Oct 09 20:58:46 njs: currently http://localhost/bonsai/query/file/foo will search for all files containing foo in the path Oct 09 20:58:48 zecke, but we will still need to pass something to it. For some reason in doesnt use the --prefix given Oct 09 20:59:10 Kristoffer: kick it in the nuts, really Oct 09 20:59:26 zecke, :D roger Oct 09 20:59:44 Kristoffer: it should not call kde-config. ;) Oct 09 21:00:25 njs: do you know if the gcov script used to create the coverage stuff is still maintained? Oct 09 21:00:51 zecke: is it really broken? Oct 09 21:01:22 hmm, it does look kind of broken, though it has always been at least somewhat broken Oct 09 21:02:34 njs: I use the code for KDE now. Somehow the numbers (covered lines) are correct Oct 09 21:02:51 njs: but there was a really strict invariant in the code (let me search the filename) Oct 09 21:04:01 OPIE suxx Oct 09 21:04:16 my zaurus has touchscreen as event3 now... Oct 09 21:04:35 zecke: by all means send in patches, it's just one of those big-hacks-that-is-sorta-useful-anyway things Oct 09 21:04:59 njs: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdesdk/ebn/coverage/cov.py?rev=593294&view=markup e.g. in kde we have bytestream.h more than once. And this code tries to merge two different files into one. And sadly they have the wrong amount of line numbers ;) Oct 09 21:05:26 hrw: set TSLIB_TSDEVICE and QtE will happily use it, I would not say Opie suxx at this point Oct 09 21:05:29 njs: I will Oct 09 21:05:37 whoa, dude Oct 09 21:06:07 that's awesome. Oct 09 21:06:09 njs: I started looking into the head of gcov file to see which sourcefile that really is :) Oct 09 21:06:42 umm, and yeah, one of the ways it is a total hack is in the logic to match up files, which basically has huge assumptions about monotone's file layout hardcoded in :-) Oct 09 21:07:16 njs: one can check invariants in python too Oct 09 21:07:56 njs: it took me sometime to figure it out, as gcov just write foo##bytestream.h Oct 09 21:07:56 njs: now I use a dict and the code should even be faster Oct 09 21:08:01 njs: I will prepare a patch Oct 09 21:08:55 given that gcov annotated files include the full text of the actual source file, it shoudl be possible to be pretty robust Oct 09 21:09:04 like, key on the source text, ignore the filename :-) Oct 09 21:09:29 cu all Oct 09 21:09:38 Laibsch: okay. Last bitching for tonight Oct 09 21:10:07 Laibsch: 1.) --version attach the full log and don't cut it off where you think it doesn't matter anymore Oct 09 21:10:22 Laibsch: ah my fault :) Oct 09 21:10:47 Laibsch: it is -v I wanted to see, and if you switch to c7x0 I would like to have seen a full rebuild Oct 09 21:11:21 Laibsch: as glibc configure because the gcc has a certain configuration, so all packages needed by glibc need to be rebuild Oct 09 21:12:37 anyway later guys! Oct 09 21:12:46 mickey|ttdevdays: cya in munich tomorrow Oct 09 21:16:24 * JustinP tries packaged-staging Oct 09 21:16:45 of course I'm using the staging dir of my previous build for ipkg-cl...:-P Oct 09 21:32:03 koen|away: oesf discovering poky is scary :) Oct 09 21:32:19 sucks to be you Oct 09 21:32:41 * RP wonders how long before I get emails... Oct 09 21:33:29 is zecke freyther@gmx.net? Oct 09 21:34:11 njs: yes, amongst other addresses. I don't know which he prefers Oct 09 21:47:47 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * rd34ae4bc... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Oct 09 21:47:47 packages/konqueror/konqueror-embedded-20060404: Fix of KDE-config error Oct 09 21:47:47 * This fixes configure error "kde-config not found..." by removing Oct 09 21:47:47 those checks from acinclude.m4. Changes applied to .bb file Oct 09 21:47:47 and addition of patch. Kde-config is the spawn of the devil. Oct 09 21:47:48 Confirmed build. Oct 09 21:52:09 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rc1c61d69... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb): linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb : Change entry point so kernel boots. Oct 09 21:52:49 nite Oct 09 21:57:56 noob question: I would like to stage/install/package the test executables from libzvbi as well as the library itself. Oct 09 21:58:07 How would I proceed? Oct 09 22:06:30 new zaurus, check it out at my blog Oct 09 22:06:30 http://www.ministryoftech.com/2006/10/09/new-sharp-zaurus-rd-cmp2000r/#more-545 Oct 09 22:17:45 what defines ${D} and where? Oct 09 22:20:44 read bitbake.conf in oe/conf Oct 09 22:31:52 kergoth: thanks Oct 09 22:34:21 good night Oct 09 22:34:37 gnite Oct 09 22:37:00 hi rwithby Oct 09 22:37:06 hi rwhitby Oct 09 22:37:21 hi Oct 09 22:55:00 koen|away: glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r12 fails to configure with packaged-staging (in dev), kernel headers missing Oct 10 01:53:57 morning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 10 02:59:57 2006