**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 14 02:59:57 2006 Oct 14 04:47:23 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * re0ede3f8... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): strace 4.5.14: Fix strace for glibc 2.5. Closes #1475. Oct 14 04:47:30 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r80b822bd... 10/ (1 packages/strace/strace_4.5.14.bb): strace 4.5.14: Run oe-stylize.py over the recipe. Oct 14 05:01:59 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rdbfd9172... 10/ (1 packages/less/less_382.bb): Oct 14 05:01:59 less 382: Use update-alternatives for less since busybox provides less as Oct 14 05:01:59 well. As report in #1472. Oct 14 05:31:26 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1629803d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Oct 14 05:31:26 zlib 1.2.3: Include zlib.h and zconf.h in the zlib-dev package by Oct 14 05:31:26 listing the headers to be installed in Makefile.am (so autoconf Oct 14 05:31:26 installs them correctly). Closes #1469. Oct 14 07:17:44 * hvontres|home loves monotone-0.30...:) Oct 14 07:42:21 koen: ping Oct 14 07:52:06 zecke: hi, have you been able to build a Opie-image with Angstrom distro? Oct 14 07:52:24 I have not tried that for a long time Oct 14 07:53:56 zecke: pong Oct 14 07:54:33 ok, i have problems with it. I am trying to build with familiar now, to see if it will build. I have read that someone also have had the same problem as i have. Seems like it has some problem with the eabi compiling. I'll report back. Oct 14 07:56:52 koen: can you mail me the password for the bonsai? Oct 14 08:02:44 zecke: sure Oct 14 08:05:53 zecke: it's the same as the db password Oct 14 08:08:53 koen: I will hack on RSS, clean up and probably a sane query page Oct 14 08:09:13 zecke: and learn how to use ? Oct 14 08:09:26 that is overrated Oct 14 08:10:04 http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/templates/ Oct 14 08:12:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r88ab16f0... 10/ (1 packages/strace/strace_4.5.14.bb): strace: bump pr after last patch Oct 14 08:16:15 koen: but do you think bonsai could be a good service? Oct 14 08:16:40 yes, but it needs a few extra's Oct 14 08:18:04 koen: sure, check the todo Oct 14 08:18:05 * mickeyl waves Oct 14 08:18:09 koen: add yours as well Oct 14 08:18:11 hey mickeyl Oct 14 08:20:29 * mickeyl authoring blog about devdays Oct 14 08:20:37 now where did i put my notes? Oct 14 08:20:39 ... Oct 14 08:21:10 * koen hands mickeyl some anti-brainwash Oct 14 08:21:21 heh, not needed, but thanks :) Oct 14 08:22:17 * mickeyl wears his TT Tshirt and his TT backpack Oct 14 08:22:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r52180961... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: re-add strace Oct 14 08:22:43 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/author/mickey/ Oct 14 08:24:12 * koen adds some stuff to TODO.bonsai Oct 14 08:24:34 and for all mickeyl groupies, http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/feeds/author/mickeyl/ Oct 14 08:24:35 awesome Oct 14 08:24:52 mickeyl: and angstrom uses psplash now :) Oct 14 08:25:16 what does http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/feeds/author/mickeyl/ do? wants to open xml browser here Oct 14 08:25:27 koen: excellent. can you make a (digicam) picture ? Oct 14 08:25:28 mickeyl: it is an RSS feed Oct 14 08:25:36 zecke: ah woot Oct 14 08:25:40 mickeyl: open it with aggregator or such Oct 14 08:25:57 zecke: that's cool, i can use this URL to show my last commits on a website? Oct 14 08:26:19 hehe Oct 14 08:26:32 mickeyl: if we can index your other project as well? Oct 14 08:27:10 mickeyl: yes, you can. I will improve this code today Oct 14 08:28:19 mickeyl : Have you had any luck to build a opie-image for the Angstrom distro? Oct 14 08:28:30 mickeyl: ahh, nice you're there. Your python manifest files, is it possible that they miss heapy.py ? Oct 14 08:29:10 goxboxlive: I'm afraid I no longer have any interest to do anything with Opie. I will write a mail to opie-devel and ask about someone taking over my position as (semiformal) opie maintainer in OE Oct 14 08:29:28 tmbinc: possible. What's heapy doing and in which package do you think it should live? Oct 14 08:29:48 good question, i've put it into core ;) Oct 14 08:29:50 mickeyl: ok i c. Oct 14 08:30:03 zecke: there will be a public announcement on November, 7th and the svn repository will be opened at January, 1, 2007 Oct 14 08:30:06 mickeyl: twisted needs it, and it's new in python-2.4 (iirc) Oct 14 08:30:29 mickeyl: it's some "heap sorted list" or whatever. http://docs.python.org/lib/module-heapq.html Oct 14 08:30:32 mickeyl: :) Oct 14 08:30:33 python-2.3 Oct 14 08:32:05 tmbinc: ok, i have made a note. sunday will be an OE hack day and I will look into this. Oct 14 08:33:08 koen: can we host a tarball for bonsai on OE.org? Oct 14 08:34:14 zecke: sure Oct 14 08:34:21 zecke: or even better, check it into monotone Oct 14 08:34:22 mickeyl: yeah no problem. I fixed it in my branch, but the file has a big "DO NOT MODIFY"-note at top :) Oct 14 08:34:53 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE/OE-psplash.AVI Oct 14 08:35:16 koen: no monotone for now. It is in my private incubator until I know what I want to do with it Oct 14 08:35:35 koen: I plan to create a complete tinderbox, and currently learn Django by writing bonsai Oct 14 08:35:36 right, so you don't want any help with it, ok Oct 14 08:36:12 I certainly want help with the templates :) Oct 14 08:36:56 koen: but I might plot to kill the Mozilla Foundation Oct 14 08:37:13 koen: and want to make more people contribute, outside OE Oct 14 08:44:54 koen: thanks, that's really cool! Oct 14 08:46:11 * dmn_ hello world Oct 14 08:46:22 moin Oct 14 08:47:33 zecke: so put it in monotone so people can contribute Oct 14 08:48:43 koen: and where should I serve it from? from mtn.oe.org? Oct 14 08:48:53 yes Oct 14 08:49:15 koen: and this makes it independant of OE? ;) Oct 14 08:57:20 koen: and it doesn't fit with ltg? or does it fit? Oct 14 09:07:21 zecke: you could put it on ltg as well, but I like it to live in a monotone repo Oct 14 09:07:47 I *hate* non-distributed scms Oct 14 09:10:30 hehe, I hate non disturbed SCMs Oct 14 09:21:58 mickey|brkfast: koen|away : Could you reload apache again? Oct 14 10:06:07 http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2006/10/14/back-from-trolltech-devdays06/ Oct 14 10:11:18 Having sanity issues in OE Oct 14 10:11:21 ;) Oct 14 10:11:25 Why exactly do I have to install git? Oct 14 10:13:06 because there are fetchers who use it Oct 14 10:13:13 and we can't make fetchers DEPEND on something Oct 14 10:13:31 (e.g. git-native) Oct 14 10:14:08 any way of overriding this on systems where I don't have root access? Oct 14 10:14:23 edit classes/sanity.bbclass Oct 14 10:17:38 blaster8: doesn't it say how to disable sanity check? Oct 14 10:17:53 it's a bit cryptic Oct 14 10:18:03 "Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.conf)." Oct 14 10:18:30 go to conf/sanity.conf (somewhere in your BBPATH) Oct 14 10:18:37 mickeyl: Does TT peoples say, when they open, as promise, new Qtopia? Oct 14 10:18:39 e.g. org.openembedded.dev/conf/sanity.conf Oct 14 10:18:57 den-ros: For Greenphone if you buy one, you get the source of the applications Oct 14 10:19:07 den-ros: no dates on opening libraries, kernel, toolchain Oct 14 10:19:49 good morning Oct 14 10:21:16 zecke: you created the icecc support for OE? Oct 14 10:21:25 zecke: I think, really open Qtopia less and less interesting when time go. Oct 14 10:23:28 den-ros: I'm already known as "the one who complains" among the trolls ;) Oct 14 10:24:03 den-ros: mail eiriken AT tt.com if you want to complain as well Oct 14 10:24:05 zecke: :) Oct 14 10:25:58 zecke: I think TT help all to move to only one environment, and i agree now with Koen, he did not like Qt much. Oct 14 10:27:03 zecke: Could you have a quick glance at this please? I installed icecc, export ICECC_PATH=/usr/bin/icecc, INHERIT += " icecc ", then start a build. NOTE: exceptions.NameError:global name 'os' is not defined while evaluating: Oct 14 10:27:05 export PATH=${@icc_path(bb,d,True)}$PATH Oct 14 10:27:06 export ICECC_CC="armeb-linux-gcc" Oct 14 10:27:33 likewise: I suck (I didn't test) Oct 14 10:27:50 <[lala]> hi guys Oct 14 10:27:51 h Oct 14 10:27:53 hi Oct 14 10:28:01 zecke: you never had this working? who did? Oct 14 10:28:19 likewise: I had, with gcc3.3. And then tried to update it :) Oct 14 10:28:21 <[lala]> zecke: any idea about the mirror issue yet? ;-) Oct 14 10:28:29 likewise: do you feel like helping me? Oct 14 10:28:29 zecke: well, at least the icecc.bbclass looks like it does the right thing. Oct 14 10:28:53 likewise: almost, a import os must be missing somewhere Oct 14 10:28:57 (lala): nicolasfr: hi Oct 14 10:31:38 <[lala]> can someone please take a look at org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/qemu/qemu-gcc-check.inc and explain to me, why --disable-gfx-check is only appended for some compilers? Oct 14 10:31:49 [lala]: Okay. MIRRORS_append didn't work right? Oct 14 10:32:00 <[lala]> zecke: exactly Oct 14 10:32:06 <[lala]> i got a parse error Oct 14 10:32:11 okay Oct 14 10:32:13 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r7772406d... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Updates from blaster8 Oct 14 10:32:39 <[lala]> zecke: MIRRORS_append () { ... } leads to a parse error Oct 14 10:33:08 <[lala]> i took that from the wiki page - but there it is mentioned that it is used that way in .bb files Oct 14 10:33:53 [lala]: then let us cheat? Oct 14 10:34:06 <[lala]> i'm all ears :-) Oct 14 10:34:32 [lala]: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/diff.psp?id1=ebc54dde8d5559455acf4f9ee5fcb9697dcdfe51&id2=ee94c7b777dd077de0c0c39cedf254756c410a81&fname=conf/machine/nslu2.conf Oct 14 10:34:53 this seems to work for them (found with my bonsai) Oct 14 10:35:35 <[lala]> hmm Oct 14 10:35:41 zecke: yes, the strange this is, PATH=${@icc_path(bb,d,False) works, PATH=${@icc_path(bb,d,True) fails. Note the True and False for compiling Oct 14 10:35:43 <[lala]> i try again Oct 14 10:37:30 [lala]: otherwise place this line in a .inc file Oct 14 10:37:36 this would be cheating Oct 14 10:37:42 <[lala]> zecke: maybe there is an issue with having that in local.conf? Oct 14 10:37:46 <[lala]> ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/local.conf:150: unparsed line: 'MIRRORS_append () {') Oct 14 10:38:05 [lala]: no, .conf and .inc/.bbclass/.bb use different parsers Oct 14 10:38:17 [lala]: this is why they moved it to nslu2-mirrors.bbclass Oct 14 10:38:25 [lala]: you could do the same trick Oct 14 10:38:42 <[lala]> conf/machine/nslu2.conf Oct 14 10:38:48 zecke: what parser is used on bbclass. I am new to this python stuff... Oct 14 10:38:49 <[lala]> it's a conf file Oct 14 10:38:53 [lala]: mkdir classes; vim classes/lala-mirror.bblcass Oct 14 10:39:17 [lala]: and then INHERIT += "lala-mirror" (like the nslu2 folks do) Oct 14 10:39:51 <[lala]> ok, i try Oct 14 10:40:07 note that classes are searched in BBPATH Oct 14 10:40:21 so you can have a directory which contains a conf/ and a classes/ dir Oct 14 10:40:29 so your class doesn't need to be in the OE tree Oct 14 10:40:48 <[lala]> but the link you gave to me seems to be a .conf file - this irratates me a bit ;-) Oct 14 10:41:54 [lala]: maybe thex fixed this error one rev afterwards :) Oct 14 10:42:01 <[lala]> hehe Oct 14 10:45:18 likewise: BitBake has a BBHandler and a ConfHandler Oct 14 10:45:30 likewise: ConfHandler is used for .conf and the rest is handled by the BBHandler Oct 14 10:45:39 likewise: you can not define methods, tasks, etc. in conf files Oct 14 10:45:42 <[lala]> any idea about that qemu issue i asked above? Oct 14 10:46:55 which issue? Oct 14 10:47:49 Anyone knows how I should handle this: Oct 14 10:47:52 NOTE: multiple providers are available (osso-gnome-vfs2, gnome-vfs); Oct 14 10:47:52 NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime gnome-vfs-plugin-file Oct 14 10:48:26 I have tried several things in local.conf with PREFERRED_PROVIDER but bitbake always try to compile the osso package Oct 14 10:48:53 and I don't want it, I need the gnome-vfs only Oct 14 10:49:44 <[lala]> can someone please take a look at org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/qemu/qemu-gcc-check.inc and explain to me, why --disable-gfx-check is only appended for some compilers? Oct 14 10:49:53 <[lala]> zecke: that one Oct 14 10:50:28 dunno, I don't have a recent oz354x and hrw will know it Oct 14 10:50:31 <[lala]> the test if gcc-3.3 or gcc-3.4 is in the path seems to be not very portable to me Oct 14 10:50:58 <[lala]> on my distro its only gcc on the host side Oct 14 10:51:03 <[lala]> and it is a gcc-3.3 Oct 14 10:52:38 <[lala]> zecke: the bbclass thingy works now and it grabs the right mirror :-) Oct 14 10:52:49 <[lala]> thx Oct 14 10:54:03 <[lala]> zecke: the same test is in .dev as well, but w/o --disable-gfx-check Oct 14 10:54:13 <[lala]> see here: org.openembedded.dev/packages/qemu/qemu-native.inc Oct 14 10:54:35 zecke: what language are the .bbclasses def function written in (I am an oldskool assembly and C/C++ programmer...) Oct 14 10:54:38 sorry, need to leave now :) Oct 14 10:54:57 zecke: thanks for all the help, we will hack along all :-) Oct 14 10:55:00 likewise: python Oct 14 10:55:03 tnx Oct 14 10:55:17 likewise: and the os error is weird, I think it is about time I test icecc again Oct 14 10:55:37 zecke: I am trying some stuff to make it work... don't bet on it though, never did python before Oct 14 10:56:09 likewise: some methods are bash/shell some python Oct 14 10:56:20 likewise: but all starting with def is python Oct 14 10:56:35 ok Oct 14 11:22:50 mtn: misuse: path _MTN/tmp/1 already exists Oct 14 11:22:51 ? Oct 14 11:23:20 never attempt an update after a few beers Oct 14 11:26:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.opie.devel/3786 Oct 14 11:26:27 lets see whether we can find someone taking over the task Oct 14 11:32:09 tmbinc: you mean heapq, not heapy, right? Oct 14 11:34:14 * den-ros Read Mickeyl letter. Oct 14 11:41:44 mickeyl: Yay! Thanks for doing that!! Let's hope that people will step out. Oct 14 11:42:01 *nod* it was about time. sorry that it took me so long to become comfortable with it Oct 14 11:42:04 den-ros, would you be interested? I know you have experience with opie. Oct 14 12:02:10 mickeyl: yes, heapq. Did i say heapy? sorry. Oct 14 12:21:17 psokolovsky_: I think more best, if only one environment will be supported. Oct 14 12:21:44 den-ros, ??? Oct 14 12:23:41 psokolovsky_: Qt and Qtopia depend from TT all time, it is too hard to whate, what plan or deside TT. For why it needed? Oct 14 12:28:00 den-ros, it's needed because it works well, and for example, GPE cannot compete with it in performance. Anyway, hope that someone who values it (and have interest and experience!) will be found ;-). Oct 14 12:28:43 And idea to say bb to QT and use other underlying fb framework can come to someone too ;-) Oct 14 12:29:41 psokolovsky_: Yes :) and one more thing - my level is too low to do anything with Opie. Oct 14 12:30:45 den-ros, ok, np, just asked because you were around and I saw your project on sf.net. Let's hope that Mr. Korovkin will be interested. Oct 14 12:32:19 psokolovsky_: That was only little Opie fork on uClibc, when it can not be did it anywhere else :) . Oct 14 12:33:33 Is it really, that new Qtopia can use vector graphics in UI? Oct 14 12:34:25 dunno about qtopia, but Qt/Embedded can render svg, yes. Oct 14 12:34:46 ibot: qtopia core is qt/embedded. please don't support stupid marketing tricks. Oct 14 12:34:54 mickeyl: okay Oct 14 12:40:49 ibot: husky Oct 14 12:40:58 it has been said that husky is Sharp Zaurus SL-C760 or a dog Oct 14 12:41:04 ibot: boxer Oct 14 12:41:06 rumour has it, boxer is Sharp SL-C860, or a dog. Oct 14 12:41:44 ibot: boxer is also in reality, this is an SL-C760 with a different case color. please don't support stupid marketing tricks. Oct 14 12:41:45 mickeyl: okay Oct 14 12:41:48 ibot: boxer Oct 14 12:41:49 rumour has it, boxer is Sharp SL-C860, or a dog. in reality, this is an SL-C760 with a different case color. please don't support stupid marketing tricks. Oct 14 12:43:28 When i test QtopiaCore i like more configurable, more graphics support, more logic, less badunderstandable things, but i think - if it possible to deep cleanup GPE, + some art work around UI :) and etc, it can be mean that we will have _own_ shine nice thing and we will not need TT anyway or something like it. Oct 14 12:45:25 we learned a lot during the construction of both GPE and Opie. Oct 14 12:45:47 eventually we have to start with the next big thing from scratch taking all the experience into account. Oct 14 12:45:47 mickeyl: Yes, that was nice. Oct 14 12:46:01 mickeyl: I think it too. Oct 14 12:47:53 imo one of major achievements will be made by standardizing a couple of things to make interoperability of GTK+, Qt, wxWidgets on embedded systems more easy. Some groups are working on defining standards for hardware abstraction, some are working on telephony, etc. 2007 will be an exiting year of development and I predict 2008 we will start picking the fruits that we plant right now. Oct 14 12:48:38 mickeyl: For example not only Qt libraries is, also, for example, wxWidgets good libraries. Oct 14 12:48:46 yeah Oct 14 12:49:01 no need to lock out people just because of the preferred a) language or b) widget set Oct 14 12:49:09 mickeyl: I saw Your message, but wrote mine same time :) Oct 14 12:49:15 hehe, right Oct 14 12:49:17 :) Oct 14 12:49:28 i see x11 having a great future even on smartphones. Oct 14 12:52:20 * den-ros Think sometime, that embedded world devices not border only Linux kernel (do not hit me :) ). I know really nice (for my opinion) OO microkernel class kernel, that work fine enough (moduling, much less memory needed in same conditions and etc.) Oct 14 12:58:06 For example, i test Linux 2.6.x on macine with 4Mb ram with selenic patches - it work very hard. Menuet asm OS need 10(?) Mb RAM (!). QNX die... . But uOS, for example, work very quickly and stable and need for it not Mbtes of RAM... it need Kilobytes and can support all the same, as anothers. Oct 14 13:02:30 Hi mickeyl Oct 14 13:02:37 mickeyl: I think than great achievment, that OE team make OE and OE really work. I did not belive, that it work even see, when it work :) . (But in past all was understandable and simple :) ) Oct 14 13:03:46 den-ros: I'm open for non-linux things, but users typically care about applications, not systems. It will be _very_ hard to introduce a new operating system after what is Linux and its rich environment (ecosystem) now. Oct 14 13:03:48 yo nicolasfr Oct 14 13:05:26 mickeyl: bitbaking python bindings is a headache... I am trying to build latest pygtk-2.10 because it has a new class called pygtk.statusicon which would allow to make applets for Matchbox and any panel supporting Freedesktop.org standards. It means card applet, wifi applet, made easy! Oct 14 13:06:10 mickeyl: I think, sometimes more easy to build new house on flat new place and put into it old things if needed. Oct 14 13:06:47 mickeyl: OE proove, that general autobuild environment possible. Oct 14 13:07:23 den-ros: me too, but it's a question of how many layers you want to rewrite and a question of how many support you can get from others. rewriting apps is hard, rewriting libs is even more harder, rewriting kernels is unbelievably hard and time consuming until you have something other guys want to base on. Oct 14 13:07:46 nicolasfr: where's the headache? what's the problem? Oct 14 13:08:22 mickeyl: pygtk-2.10 needs pygobjects which I have compiled but I need to make a native package. And that's the problem Oct 14 13:08:33 mickeyl: So, maybe no matter components for this automatic build system, but more importance flexibility of that system. That system will be main. Oct 14 13:09:08 nicolasfr: oh they need pygobject during runtime of build? Oct 14 13:09:48 mickeyl: You defenetly right! Oct 14 13:10:01 mickeyl: yes Oct 14 13:10:15 nicolasfr: oh nasty. throw everything you have into the bugtracker and I'll have a look tomorrow Oct 14 13:10:31 mickeyl: thanks ;) Oct 14 13:10:35 np Oct 14 13:10:55 * mickeyl need to prepare for sports match now Oct 14 13:10:57 cu later Oct 14 13:11:08 mickey|sports: cu Oct 14 13:22:10 morning Oct 14 13:22:58 chouimat: hi Oct 14 13:30:02 After i moved over to monotone-0.30 and upgraded my database for 0.30 i get this error, even though i have set the path to bitbake: ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf Oct 14 13:30:12 How can i fix this? Oct 14 13:36:39 goxboxlive, bitbake -D for starters Oct 14 13:36:46 goxboxlive: Please, can You repeat error. Oct 14 13:37:02 hold on Oct 14 13:42:02 bitbake -D opie-console Oct 14 13:42:02 ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf Oct 14 13:42:37 seems like it looks for bitbake.conf on subfolders of my build directory Oct 14 13:43:04 in conf/ i only have local.conf. bitbake \.conf is under bitbake/conf/ Oct 14 13:43:32 And i have set the enviorement Oct 14 13:45:12 psokolovsky_ If i do this, this happends: Oct 14 13:45:37 hey Oct 14 13:45:41 ~seen koen Oct 14 13:45:57 koen was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 4h 38m 32s ago, saying: 'I *hate* non-distributed scms'. Oct 14 13:46:01 http://pastebin.ca/202408 Oct 14 13:46:55 strange right? This happend now after i moved over to monotone-0.30 Oct 14 13:47:38 goxboxlive: you have to convert the file and regenerate something Oct 14 13:47:48 it'll still sync though Oct 14 13:47:51 i have done that Oct 14 13:47:55 goxboxlive: unrelated to mtn ;) Oct 14 13:48:02 goxboxlive, well, it is known issue that bitbake misreports error when it can't find wth else than bitbake.conf Oct 14 13:48:08 it took ages to convert the db Oct 14 13:48:34 goxboxlive: a good reason to have everything upstream :) Oct 14 13:48:34 goxboxlive, current pull works for me though Oct 14 13:48:38 But the strange thing is that it woked this morning before the convert Oct 14 13:48:45 goxboxlive: do a migrate workspace as well? Oct 14 13:49:14 zecke: i followed the howto on angstrom web site. Oct 14 13:49:16 goxboxlive: but I suspect that a) BBPATH is wrong, or b) your checkout is wrong Oct 14 13:49:28 i did this: mtn db migrate --db=/opt/OE/OE.mtn Oct 14 13:49:28 mtn db regenerate_rosters --db=/opt/OE/OE.mtn # will take some time Oct 14 13:49:47 ANd yes, it tok som time :-) Oct 14 13:50:41 goxboxlive, so do you have :/home/jrs/cvs/oe/org.openembedded.dev/conf/bitbake.conf ? Oct 14 13:51:00 a) bbpath is not wrong, i use a script. It is allways the same. b) it might be. Oct 14 13:51:05 goxboxlive, you need migrate *workspace* too. though unrelated to this error Oct 14 13:51:26 no i dont Oct 14 13:51:34 yes i c. Oct 14 13:51:40 i'll try. Oct 14 13:51:49 thx Oct 14 13:56:11 zecke and psokolovsky_ : you where both right. it was b) who was wrong. my checkout. Thanks for your help. Oct 14 13:56:25 morning Oct 14 13:56:38 time to get to work and clean some stuff Oct 14 13:56:41 hrw: hi :) Oct 14 13:56:47 hrw, Hi Oct 14 13:56:50 goxboxlive, ok Oct 14 13:57:10 goxboxlive: Sorry, i was walk out. Oct 14 13:57:28 np Oct 14 13:58:49 goxboxlive: Only i can say - that, when i was go on new monotone it start work correct. Oct 14 14:15:29 [hrw@host1 ps]$ bitbake dbench kernbench interbench bonnie++ lmbench Oct 14 14:41:02 hullo Oct 14 14:52:25 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2035dead... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): dbench: added 3.04 Oct 14 14:52:28 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4765b082... 10/ (1 packages/interbench packages/interbench/interbench_0.30.bb): interbench: added 0.30 Oct 14 14:52:40 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd464f622... 10/ (1 packages/kernbench packages/kernbench/kernbench_0.41.bb): kernbench: added 0.41 Oct 14 14:52:48 morning Oct 14 14:53:07 hi leon Oct 14 14:53:07 dear all. which IRC client are you using ? Oct 14 14:53:14 hrw: hey. Oct 14 14:53:15 Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/ Oct 14 14:53:56 hrw: wow. :) any interesting feature ? Oct 14 14:54:55 leoncamel_emacs: I always used text irc clients Oct 14 14:55:29 hrw: :). yes. I like text based irc clients. Oct 14 14:55:51 hrw: currently, I am using emacs-erc now. Oct 14 14:57:20 hey if anyone compiles a konqueror newer then 2003 version for collie on openzaurus 3.5.4 please let me know Oct 14 14:57:25 i would be very much interested, thanks Oct 14 15:06:05 :). wow. very interesting Oct 14 15:10:47 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r145bc561... 10/ (1 packages/dbench/dbench_3.04.bb): dbench: package also tbench Oct 14 15:17:55 koen|away: around? Oct 14 15:20:03 short time ago koen said something about thet task-bootstrap is "dead" ... what meta package substitute it ? Oct 14 15:20:09 task-base Oct 14 15:20:22 gremlin[it]: I will write documentation about it soon Oct 14 15:20:55 hrw existe also base-image ? Oct 14 15:21:05 it's a text only image ? Oct 14 15:21:28 bootstrap-image use task-base Oct 14 15:21:57 likewise: are you around? Oct 14 15:22:03 existe = exist | esiste .... Oct 14 15:22:26 hrw i got this error : ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap-unionroot:| base-passwd initscripts kernel-module-soundcore-2.6 kernel-module-snd-2.6 network-suspend-scripts ipkg-linkudev unionfs-modules unionfs-utils unionroot unionroot-utils Oct 14 15:22:40 gremlin[it]: which machine you build for? Oct 14 15:23:53 MACHINE = "h3600", DISTRO = "generic" ... and some patch to build a 2.6 kernel ... Oct 14 15:24:19 h3600 need converting then Oct 14 15:24:34 gremlin[it]: maybe DISTRO=generic-unstable is OK Oct 14 15:25:03 gremlin[it]: for now add: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_task-bootstrap = "task-bootstrap" Oct 14 15:25:27 hrw to use the old one, right ? Oct 14 15:25:53 zecke: pong, yes I am back. I fixed the bbclass bugs in icecc, but I am not sure if my setup is right Oct 14 15:26:17 gremlin[it]: yes Oct 14 15:26:46 gremlin[it]: h3600 converting need time as task-base is not quite ready for 2.4 devices yet Oct 14 15:27:25 i'm working on kenrel 2.6 for h3600 ... so maybe it's more ready for me ;) Oct 14 15:27:44 gremlin[it]: ;) Oct 14 15:28:25 other tha task-base.bb there is something mor ei'll have to check to try to build task-base ? Oct 14 15:29:34 your machine config need to have MACHINE_FEATURES Oct 14 15:30:38 h3900 is ok for task-base ? Oct 14 15:30:53 iirc it was converted Oct 14 15:31:06 one u are sure ? Oct 14 15:32:15 h2200, hx4700 Oct 14 15:32:18 gremlin[it], hx4700 should be pretty good I guess Oct 14 15:32:20 ;-) Oct 14 15:32:39 likewise: awesome, welcome to the world of python Oct 14 15:32:47 ok thanks :) Oct 14 15:32:59 zecke: erhm, I am not quite there yet :-) Oct 14 15:33:23 zecke: can you describe the intention of operation of the icecc.bbclass, i.e. what should it do? Oct 14 15:34:32 likewise: once there is a toolchain it should package it up Oct 14 15:34:37 zecke: it creates staging/ice/{cross/target{gcc,g++},native/{gcc,g++}} Oct 14 15:34:48 likewise: and set ICECC_VERSION to point zo it Oct 14 15:35:00 zeckte: hmm, looking up where the packaged-up toolchain is... Oct 14 15:35:20 likewise: and it should create symlinks to icecc IIRC Oct 14 15:36:23 zecke: hold on, mv pizza oven/ Oct 14 15:36:27 icecc? Oct 14 15:36:48 mithro: never heard of icecream? Oct 14 15:36:57 yes Oct 14 15:37:08 mithro: I am testing zecke's work Oct 14 15:38:32 zecke: yes, it's there: build/tmp/cross/ice/armeb-linux-openslugarmeb-linuxhard4.1.1bluebox.tar.bz2 Oct 14 15:39:25 likewise: and it create {cross as file? Oct 14 15:39:40 likewise: normally you set ICECC_VERSION to the toolchain Oct 14 15:39:48 likewise: and ICECC_CC to the to be used compiled Oct 14 15:40:40 Today my OE build Angstrom for my hx4700 with MACHINE = "hx4700", i flash it and it work nice. There is sound card define disappear in current 2.6.16-hh5 but support for CF appear again. Oct 14 15:40:42 zecke: I have never worked with icecc, so I am taking on two things at once here. I recon that the bbclass is supposed to set ICECC_VERSION and ICECC_CC Oct 14 15:41:08 someone familiar with git? I want to fetch scrashme.git from http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/projects/scrashme/ Oct 14 15:43:16 likewise: ah. You have icecream installed on your system? Oct 14 15:43:25 likewise: and you run iceccd on your machine Oct 14 15:43:31 likewise: and you have one scheduler in your net? Oct 14 15:43:39 zecke: yes, and it is running iceccd and the scheduler on my system. Oct 14 15:43:53 likewise: start icemon Oct 14 15:44:33 zecke: don't have it installed, it's kde while i am on gnome, AFAIK Oct 14 15:44:46 likewise: install it, it is worth it Oct 14 15:45:27 zecke: ok, let me see Oct 14 15:45:46 zecke: i.e. hold on :-) Oct 14 15:46:41 Hmm, I wan't know, who add this patch : qte/qte-2.3.12/fix-linuxfb-setmode.patch ? How can I get by monotone ? Oct 14 15:55:02 leoncamel_irssi: annotate, bonsai? Oct 14 15:55:29 zecke: icemon running, scheduler and my box in sight :-) Oct 14 15:55:37 leoncamel_irssi: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/file/fix-linuxfb-setmode.patch/ Oct 14 15:56:28 leoncamel_irssi: now use bitkeeper to find it again Oct 14 15:57:15 zecke: ok, yes, icemon is as cool as the web site claims it is :-) Oct 14 15:58:00 leoncamel_irssi: http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/hist/packages/qte/qte-2.3.10/fix-linuxfb-setmode.patch?nav=index.html|src/.|src/packages|src/packages/qte|src/packages/qte/qte-2.3.10 Oct 14 15:59:14 heh.. libaio works only on one endianess.. Oct 14 15:59:37 hrw ... changing my h3600.conf machinde definition and using your task-base build a bootstrap-image ... :) Oct 14 16:07:38 zecke: what does the comment mean? def use_icc_version(bb,d): //// # Constin native native //// prefix = bb.data.expand('${HOST_PREFIX}', d) Oct 14 16:08:28 hehe Oct 14 16:08:45 I used icecc when I interned at the ROAD GmbH Oct 14 16:08:56 and constin was one of the owner... Oct 14 16:09:03 this was another way to do MACHINE=native Oct 14 16:13:18 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rd19521b4... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700.conf s/__/_/ in MACHINE_EXTRA__RRECOMMENDS Oct 14 16:15:20 hrw, RP: what do you think about leaving out wifi-cs dependencies from task-base for machines that have internal wifi (http://en.pastebin.ca/202569)? Oct 14 16:17:50 pH5: s/DISTRO_FEATURE/COMBINED_FEATURES should do it Oct 14 16:18:34 pH5: internal wifi in hx4700 is one thing... Oct 14 16:18:47 pH5: hx4700 cf slot == pcmcia == "prism3-support spectrum-fw hostap-conf orinoco-conf" Oct 14 16:20:48 koen|away: mickey|sports : could you reload the apache in a second? Oct 14 16:20:54 goxboxlive: sort of Oct 14 16:21:22 zecke: Arent you a Opie developer? Oct 14 16:21:54 Or are you also going to stop developing Opie? Oct 14 16:23:19 ~lart bitbake for parse errors on do_install()\n{\nsomething\n} Oct 14 16:23:19 * ibot beats bitbake severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken for parse errors on do_install()\n{\nsomething\n} Oct 14 16:24:08 NOTE: package libaio-0.3.106-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 14 16:24:14 ~hail Debian Oct 14 16:24:16 * ibot bows down to Debian and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 14 16:26:49 goxboxlive: sort of stopped :) Oct 14 16:27:11 goxboxlive: there is the Free Software and award winning Qtopia. People should use that :) Oct 14 16:29:16 mickey|sports: koen|away : reload apache please :) Oct 14 16:29:52 i c. That's sad that no one with skills will keep up the developing. In my opinion Opie looks bether, and it is faster. Oct 14 16:30:20 goxboxlive: and in contrast to Qtopia it is Free Software Oct 14 16:30:28 goxboxlive: but my Lisp episode is over Oct 14 16:30:50 i c Oct 14 16:31:02 goxboxlive: when you play with qt3 then qt4 you more and more does not want to use qt2 Oct 14 16:31:03 hrw: Where's xlib in OZ tree? Oct 14 16:31:22 psokolovsky_: in packages/ dir? Oct 14 16:31:56 hrw: yeah, I meant next level dir ;-) found in "x11" ;-) Oct 14 16:35:45 the next question would be how to get older rev of file out of mtn... Oct 14 16:35:57 psokolovsky_: mtn update -roldrev Oct 14 16:41:14 goxboxlive: it is like rms vs. Lisp Machines Oct 14 16:41:30 goxboxlive: at some point he had enough from fighting/securing freedom and moved on Oct 14 16:43:01 koen|away: hey! Oct 14 16:45:34 koen: I'm starting generating proper XHTML trans 1.0 but how should a sane query page look like? Oct 14 16:46:29 ehm Oct 14 16:46:31 * koen dunnos Oct 14 16:47:17 koen: I think I'm the only one knowing about the various bonsai/query/* and bonsai/view/* and bonsai/feeds/* urls :} Oct 14 16:47:30 koen: leave alone exact=1, scm_id=... Oct 14 16:47:30 zecke:
Oct 14 16:47:34 and doctype on start Oct 14 16:49:38 hrw: I wonder if I should abuse the 404.html as search page Oct 14 16:50:29 no idea now Oct 14 16:52:46 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r208594a9... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): libaio: add 0.3.106 which build for ARM Oct 14 16:53:46 oooh, libaio Oct 14 16:54:06 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3b680a52... 10/ (1 packages/libaio/libaio-0.3.106/libaio_0.3.106-2.diff.gz): libaio: remove not needed Debian patchset Oct 14 16:54:21 koen: we had libaio before Oct 14 16:54:35 a non-working one Oct 14 16:54:39 yep Oct 14 16:54:46 now I need to remener which recipe needed it Oct 14 16:54:52 remember* Oct 14 16:55:06 nothing has it in DEPENDS in .dev Oct 14 16:55:30 I know, I didn't add the recipe Oct 14 16:55:59 aio-stress maybe? Oct 14 16:56:35 no, something like usb-ip, i-scsi or inputpipe Oct 14 16:56:43 ah Oct 14 16:56:55 hmm. cant find libpthread here.. Oct 14 16:56:59 | /home/hrw/devel/build/ps/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find /lib/libpthread.so.0 Oct 14 16:57:32 take a look at the .so file... it might point to a wrong place :} Oct 14 16:57:48 good idea Oct 14 16:58:28 yep. on one system it has /lib/ but on other it has no path Oct 14 16:58:57 NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'get_kernelversion' is not defined while evaluating: Oct 14 16:58:59 ;( Oct 14 16:59:10 | /home/hrw/devel/build/ps/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libaio.so: undefined reference to `__io_getevents_0_4' Oct 14 16:59:13 fsck Oct 14 17:00:06 :( Oct 14 17:02:54 ERROR: name 'get_kernelversion' is not defined while parsing /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux-uml/linux-uml_2.4.26.bb Oct 14 17:07:15 koen: I will use the free mtn project hosting for the tinderbox Oct 14 17:07:46 koen: once I have a XHTML 1.0 output :) Oct 14 17:14:22 /home/hrw/devel/build/dev/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib//libaio.so: undefined reference to `__io_getevents_0_4' Oct 14 17:14:27 strikes back ;( Oct 14 17:15:20 koen: we need to patch django :) Oct 14 17:23:50 NOTE: package aiostress-1.0-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 14 17:23:51 ;D Oct 14 17:24:12 good :) Oct 14 17:24:14 but its hack.. Oct 14 17:24:20 nasty? Oct 14 17:24:30 without any knowledge Oct 14 17:24:31 hrw, I wonder, can we create separate SECTION for test/benchmark stuff? Oct 14 17:24:43 -io_syscall5(int, __io_getevents_0_4, io_getevents, io_context_t, ctx, long, min_nr, long, nr, struct io_event *, events, struct timespec *, timeout) Oct 14 17:24:46 +io_syscall5(int, io_getevents_0_4, io_getevents, io_context_t, ctx, long, min_nr, long, nr, struct io_event *, events, struct timespec *, timeout) Oct 14 17:24:50 do_syscall: Oct 14 17:24:50 - return __io_getevents_0_4(ctx, min_nr, nr, events, timeout); Oct 14 17:24:50 + return io_getevents_0_4(ctx, min_nr, nr, events, timeout); Oct 14 17:25:12 psokolovsky: console/tests network/tests? Oct 14 17:27:03 hrw, yes, something like that ;-) Oct 14 17:27:24 hmm.. it looks like procps.sourceforge.net is dead. are there any procps mirrors? Oct 14 17:27:24 koen: please apply this patch http://rafb.net/paste/results/9aF0sa81.html Oct 14 17:27:26 NOTE: package reaim-7.0.1.13-r0: task do_compile: completed Oct 14 17:27:35 pH5: DEBIAN_MIRROR Oct 14 17:27:42 pH5: *.sf.net is not working now Oct 14 17:27:42 hrw: thanks Oct 14 17:29:59 zecke: apply, patch and run distutils again? Oct 14 17:31:59 zecke: patch applied Oct 14 17:33:04 koen: install again, or apply to the live install :) Oct 14 17:33:26 I applied it to the live install :) Oct 14 17:36:13 koen: reminded which recipe you had for libaio? Oct 14 17:36:24 s/had/had stopped/ Oct 14 17:36:32 NOTE: package reaim-7.0.1.13-r0: task do_compile: completed Oct 14 17:36:34 ;P Oct 14 17:37:54 hrw; Nice. Oct 14 17:38:25 den-ros: CELF day today Oct 14 17:39:19 NOTE: package reaim-7.0.1.13-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 14 17:39:22 yeah Oct 14 17:46:56 hullo Oct 14 17:52:30 packaged-staging suxx Oct 14 17:52:50 hrw - i tried compiling konqueror from dev branch Oct 14 17:52:54 it didnt work so i gave up Oct 14 17:52:56 :( Oct 14 17:53:02 my tmp/staging has whole rootfs inside Oct 14 17:53:11 ahh k Oct 14 17:53:43 http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/file/packages/xauth/xauth/autofoo.patch/ vs. http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/file/packages/xauth/xauth/autofoo.patch/?scm_id=1 Oct 14 17:54:23 koen: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/file/packages/xauth/xauth/autofoo.patch/?scm_id=3 and you have an rss feed for this file Oct 14 17:56:37 hrw: patches welcome :) Oct 14 17:57:05 zecke: cool Oct 14 17:58:18 koen: I will make it XHTML now, abuse the 404 site Oct 14 18:01:54 zecke: try to use the OE css and headers Oct 14 18:05:30 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2d13b6c5... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): reaim: added 7.0.1.13 Oct 14 18:05:48 koen: I will try to get XHTML output Oct 14 18:05:56 koen: changing the CSS and headers would be easy then Oct 14 18:08:51 ~spell Asynchronous Oct 14 18:08:53 'Asynchronous' may be spelled correctly Oct 14 18:09:36 NOTE: package aiostress-1.0-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 14 18:12:18 hmmm Oct 14 18:12:30 apparmor or selinux Oct 14 18:12:37 selinux Oct 14 18:13:08 hrw: nice, stress tests. That reminds me, we should add a fsx package: http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/tag/fsx Oct 14 18:14:02 Yay, icecream works. zecke rocks. Now how can we connect our boxes to test this? icecream expects a LAN setup it seems. Oct 14 18:14:07 likewise: its on list ;) Oct 14 18:14:14 hrw: which list? :-) Oct 14 18:14:23 likewise: mine Oct 14 18:14:26 likewise: send your patch, *please* Oct 14 18:14:37 zecke: already committed two hours ago to bugs. Oct 14 18:14:55 zecke: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1485 Oct 14 18:14:58 likewise: iceccd's broadcast ping to find the scheduler Oct 14 18:15:08 likewise: put the scheduler somewhere where it can be reached by all clients Oct 14 18:15:40 yummie Oct 14 18:15:53 multithreaded bitbake + icecc Oct 14 18:16:09 zecke: I know, but suppose that we want to share _our_ boxes just for fun, it would take some hacking to get that to work. Oct 14 18:16:15 likewise: looks good Oct 14 18:16:29 likewise: I need to finish my icecream patch Oct 14 18:16:38 likewise: connecting schedulers to schedulers is on my todo Oct 14 18:16:51 likewise: for the outside a foreign net would look like one computer Oct 14 18:17:07 koen: can I parallellize bitbake tasks already. I did see a keyword for it, but cannot find it in the docs. Oct 14 18:17:24 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra5d64ac1... 10/ (1 packages/aiostress packages/aiostress/aiostress_0.0.bb): aiostress: added as 0.0 as there is no version defined upstream Oct 14 18:17:35 likewise: it is new in BitBake trunk Oct 14 18:17:37 zecke: would that approach correctly deal with "node load" Oct 14 18:18:29 likewise: it would, if it avergaes the loads of all clients Oct 14 18:18:37 likewise: + adds penalty for the network connection Oct 14 18:19:11 likewise: thanks for the patch, are you a happy emacs user? Oct 14 18:19:12 zecke: a hacky approach would be as follows: create an alias eth interface, all on the same private network address, and use a LAN tunnel tool. Oct 14 18:19:28 zecke: this was gedit I think :-) Oct 14 18:19:28 likewise: yes, that will work as well Oct 14 18:19:45 zecke: mostly nano, gedit or eclipse. Oct 14 18:19:57 likewise: this whitespace changes looked like emacs ;) Oct 14 18:19:58 likewise: bitbake trunk and 'BB_NUMBER_THREADS=3' in local.conf Oct 14 18:20:33 replace '3' with something you think is appropriate Oct 14 18:21:12 likewise: it runs a 'thread' per task (do_fetch, do_configure, etc), not per recipe Oct 14 18:21:43 so setting it to '200' would probably give you 3 compile threads an 197 fetch threads :) Oct 14 18:22:54 bleh Oct 14 18:23:01 this adsl link sucks for uploading Oct 14 18:24:26 zecke: did you finish your 3 sentences yet? Oct 14 18:24:43 koen: The neighbourhood 100 Mbit symtrical fiber distribution box is right in front of my house, but the ISP still demands $$$ for VOIP voicecalls, so I stuck with the 1Mbit/s Tiscali account I have. Oct 14 18:25:05 koen: 1Mbit/s upload that is... Oct 14 18:25:42 hi mickeyl Oct 14 18:25:42 likewise: cute Oct 14 18:25:56 koen: that approach (thread per task) at least keeps the CPU busy, which is good. Oct 14 18:25:58 likewise: I'm actually cursing at the link of the 'in-laws' :) Oct 14 18:26:07 hey mickeyl Oct 14 18:26:17 likewise 1 mbit is much Oct 14 18:26:46 koen: better complain *here* then indeed :-) Oct 14 18:26:53 :) Oct 14 18:27:30 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rcdf57334... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libaio: added hack to get rid of undefined reference to '__io_getevents_0_4' Oct 14 18:27:46 can someone look at this revision? Oct 14 18:28:04 woglinde: 6Mbit down/1 Mbit up is about EUR 15 these days here (.nl). Oct 14 18:28:21 woglinde: per month Oct 14 18:28:34 fscking cheap Oct 14 18:28:40 hm Oct 14 18:28:45 with flatrate? Oct 14 18:28:55 I pay 30 EUR for 1536/170kbps Oct 14 18:29:01 woglinde: define flatrate exactly Oct 14 18:29:15 €26 for 1024/256kbit/s Oct 14 18:29:31 likewise no extra pay for up and download Oct 14 18:29:50 For example: http://portal.tiscali.nl/producten/adsl/index.html Oct 14 18:30:02 but I'm going to upgrade to €30/month for 2Mbit/s/256kbit/s Oct 14 18:30:32 woglinde: you mean extra pay for excess bandwidth and/or traffic? Oct 14 18:30:40 traffic Oct 14 18:30:43 woglinde: yes, flatrate! Oct 14 18:30:50 likewise: I still have a small 'disagreement' with KPN Oct 14 18:31:25 woglinde: and for 5 EUR extra flat-rate, I get VOIP, I have no call expenses to land-lines (no start tarif either). Oct 14 18:31:34 koen: who doesn't? Oct 14 18:31:44 likewise: kpn refused to close the line to allow adsl from a competitor, and they are sending 'aanmaniningen' for the subscription fees Oct 14 18:31:46 blaster8: hi there, welcome back Oct 14 18:31:57 woglinde: Welcome me to the world of insecure webapps Oct 14 18:32:08 ello Oct 14 18:32:18 zecke yes you used php Oct 14 18:32:19 koen: grrRRRR. Oct 14 18:32:39 * woglinde looks right and left, if justin is around Oct 14 18:32:47 likewise: and there isn't a helpdesk that can deal with that problem :) Oct 14 18:33:23 koen: with kpn you aren't stuck to a minimal one-year subscription, are you? Oct 14 18:33:45 likewise: you are, and I paid for that Oct 14 18:34:24 "Ah, mr kooi, we have something on file, let me see. Ehm, it's 20 pages, could I call you back?" Oct 14 18:34:27 likewise I have alice with isdn-phone and vdsl 2mbit/192kb and phonecalls other than cell phones for 39,99 Oct 14 18:36:48 alice rocks Oct 14 18:37:02 or should i say "vanessa"... Oct 14 18:37:04 :D Oct 14 18:37:19 but in few weeks you can order iptv for 100 euro with 50 mbit Oct 14 18:37:24 from telekom Oct 14 18:37:52 I should check if a dreambox would support the digital cable stuff Oct 14 18:38:11 koen hm dvb-net? Oct 14 18:38:25 * zecke runs Oct 14 18:38:28 all I can find is "digital cable" :( Oct 14 18:38:33 or tv Oct 14 18:38:41 thats what the dreambox is for digital Oct 14 18:38:44 tv Oct 14 18:39:06 and iirc there are 2 or 3 incompatible 'standards' Oct 14 18:39:30 woglinde: dvb over cable afaik Oct 14 18:39:42 yes Oct 14 18:39:49 where is the problem? Oct 14 18:39:57 no tuner? Oct 14 18:42:35 woglinde: wow, tiscali.de is 3x as expensive than tiscali.nl for 6 Mbit ADSL + VOIP... Oh, and Alice looks nice :-) We don't have her^H^H^H it here. Oct 14 18:43:21 :D Oct 14 18:43:31 this is clever marketing Oct 14 18:43:40 that alice-puppet is just more attractive than the t-online dood Oct 14 18:44:11 koen: /home/oe/tinderbox-server/templates/base_generic.html Oct 14 18:44:20 koen: I have no freaking clue about CSS Oct 14 18:44:45 anyone knows a reliable tool to prepend license headers? Oct 14 18:46:08 * koen wonders what 'standard' the "Philips DCR 2020/03" tuner supports Oct 14 18:46:50 koen: What's the diffrents between angstrom-gpe-image and gpe-image ( i use angstrom as distro)? Oct 14 18:47:18 gpe-images includes more cruft Oct 14 18:47:27 woglinde: I'm almost XHTML compliant Oct 14 18:47:52 koen: opie-image gpe-image needs to follow task-base way Oct 14 18:52:47 zecke: one of the OE css sheets has been applied Oct 14 18:53:30 zecke: put in some
and and
to annoy hrw enough to fix it ;) Oct 14 18:54:25 haha Oct 14 18:54:34 "This release adds a dbus-uuidgen binary which packagers should run in their post scripts." <- aaargh Oct 14 18:55:17 heh Oct 14 18:55:36 koen: Oct 14 18:55:57 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r577e0fae... 10/ (1 packages/fsx-linux packages/fsx-linux/fsx-linux_0.0.bb): fsx: added Linux version as 0.0 because there is no version defined upstream Oct 14 18:55:58 likewise: look at commit ;) Oct 14 18:56:55 hrw: excellent :-) BTW, fsx has no upstream, there are multiple different versions (see the blog link I sent you). However, this versions seems to be the globally best. Oct 14 18:57:07 s/versions/forks Oct 14 18:57:50 likewise: thats why I got fsx-linux Oct 14 18:58:21 hgnr Oct 14 18:58:29 ~stab python 2.3 and python 2.4 Oct 14 18:58:30 * ibot runs at python 2.3 and python 2.4 with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Oct 14 18:59:03 nah nah Oct 14 18:59:11 ~hug python 2.4 to make it feel good again Oct 14 18:59:13 * ibot jumps into python 2.4 to make it feel good again's lap and huggles and *hugs*! Oct 14 18:59:34 mickeyl: ok, you just volunteered to fix gforge scm viewer Oct 14 18:59:40 heh Oct 14 18:59:45 no go, sorry Oct 14 18:59:55 i rather fix a couple of bugzilla bugs against *python Oct 14 19:00:04 but now I'm going to party Oct 14 19:00:07 cu later Oct 14 19:05:10 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r84667dc5... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): python: add heapq and bisect support to python-lang, remove bisect from python-threading Oct 14 19:06:15 tmbinc: that should fix your twisted. perhaps need to add dependency on python-lang to twisted Oct 14 19:06:16 bbl Oct 14 19:09:16 koen: {% ifequals name hrw %}hrw please fixit {% endif %} Oct 14 19:11:43 wow two pages are valid now Oct 14 19:12:39 zecke: blink {display: !important} rule Oct 14 19:21:09 hrmm Oct 14 19:21:22 hrw - i tried to compile kismet in the oz branch Oct 14 19:21:41 and i get this for an error ; configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses Oct 14 19:22:11 siriusnova: hmm. Oct 14 19:22:42 siriusnova: add 'ncurses' into DEPENDS and retry Oct 14 19:22:57 k Oct 14 19:22:58 zecke: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/author/ should return a list of valid author Oct 14 19:23:51 koen: could you reload apachage again? Oct 14 19:24:53 hrw - ERROR: Nothing provides dependency curses Oct 14 19:25:18 oh wait Oct 14 19:25:19 nvm Oct 14 19:25:20 :X Oct 14 19:25:23 * siriusnova slaps himself Oct 14 19:25:54 koen: thanks Oct 14 19:26:23 * woglinde wonders why zecke cant type kill -hup apache-pid Oct 14 19:26:43 woglinde: because we do not run Win CE on the server? Oct 14 19:26:52 than sudo Oct 14 19:27:21 woglinde: again. We do not run Win CE Oct 14 19:27:38 win ce has no sudo Oct 14 19:30:02 wow I'm even XHTML 1.0 strict now Oct 14 19:30:58 lol Oct 14 19:31:17 every second time it is valid Oct 14 19:34:45 NOTE: package iozone3-263-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 14 19:35:53 non-free ;( Oct 14 19:36:22 woglinde: I can even type /etc/init.d/apache2 reload Oct 14 19:36:27 * koen wonders how jffs2 will react to fsx Oct 14 19:36:33 woglinde: but I have nit enough perms Oct 14 19:37:25 zecke thats where sudo comes in Oct 14 19:37:48 woglinde: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload Oct 14 19:37:48 -bash: sudo: command not found Oct 14 19:38:08 squash poke your admin Oct 14 19:38:18 args Oct 14 19:43:05 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r656a920b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: add no-arch feed Oct 14 19:44:08 koen: okay, now we need to write a update cronjob? Oct 14 19:44:18 <[lala]> hi hrw Oct 14 19:44:36 <[lala]> hrw: can you explain to me the meaning of org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/qemu/qemu-gcc-check.inc please? Oct 14 19:44:38 zecke: a script for /etc/cron.hourly? Oct 14 19:45:06 [lala]: qemu-native need gcc 3.x Oct 14 19:45:12 zecke: what's the ETA for the bitbake 1.6.1 and 1.7.0 tarballs? Oct 14 19:45:26 [lala]: if there is 3.3/3.4/3.2 available then we will use it Oct 14 19:46:19 <[lala]> hrw: well, but the test if a binary with the name gcc-3.x is in the path is not valid on all installations Oct 14 19:46:36 <[lala]> wouldn't it be better to check the version of gcc as well? Oct 14 19:46:44 koen: good question Oct 14 19:46:45 [lala]: patches welcome Oct 14 19:47:22 <[lala]> hrw: i was also wondering about the --disable-gfx-check option Oct 14 19:47:30 hrw: will your docs end up in org.oe.docu? Oct 14 19:47:34 <[lala]> why isn't that set globally? Oct 14 19:47:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3fe7cba7... 10/ (1 packages/bitbake/bitbake_svn.bb): bitbake svn: trunk is 1.7.0, not 0.0 Oct 14 19:47:52 koen: yes Oct 14 19:48:03 [lala]: do not remember Oct 14 19:48:23 because RP wants to have the graphics option Oct 14 19:48:35 to run the qemu images in Oct 14 19:48:54 <[lala]> koen: how do i generate a qemu image? Oct 14 19:49:16 bitbake , MACHINE=qemuarm Oct 14 19:49:21 <[lala]> koen: and what is the qemu used for in general? for configure stuff? Oct 14 19:49:41 <[lala]> ah, cool Oct 14 19:50:02 see richard Oct 14 19:50:05 argh Oct 14 19:50:17 see http://o-hand.com/~richard/qemu.html Oct 14 19:51:32 <[lala]> thx Oct 14 19:51:49 <[lala]> is qemu needed for someting else as to run whole images? Oct 14 19:51:54 while reading do s/integrator CP/versatile/g Oct 14 19:52:03 for generating glibc locales Oct 14 19:52:46 <[lala]> but you don't use it for running ./configure stuff do you? Oct 14 19:53:35 stupid question i know but how do i remake a file with bitbake Oct 14 19:53:43 i just compiled a package and want to compile it again Oct 14 19:53:50 and bitbake filename wont recompile the package Oct 14 19:54:15 siriusnova: check the manual Oct 14 19:54:26 <[lala]> bitbake -b -c clean Oct 14 19:54:30 "select country" -> the netherlands, and a few fields down: "select region" where I have to manually select europe Oct 14 19:54:35 * koen sighs at ARM.com Oct 14 19:58:16 zecke: I just asked ARM.com to give us MPCore boards since we are doing all the work for the debian eabi port :) Oct 14 19:59:46 They will probably laugh at us, but it never hurts to ask :) Oct 14 20:00:34 <[lala]> koen, hrw: any idea why qemu-native doesn't pick up sdl-native for compiling? Oct 14 20:01:02 <[lala]> i have added the dependency locally but it doesnt help Oct 14 20:02:53 it wants sdl on your host, not in staging Oct 14 20:04:09 zecke: doesn't 'crontab -e' work for the OE user? Oct 14 20:04:59 no idea Oct 14 20:06:22 drat Oct 14 20:06:36 I left the c700 at home, so I can't look in to the RO rootfs problem Oct 14 20:06:39 oe@serenity:~/tinderbox-server/tinderbox$ ./bonsai_update.py Oct 14 20:06:39 No proper name given, will update everything Oct 14 20:06:39 Updating SVN from http://svn.berlios.de//svnroot/repos/bitbake/ starting at rev:618 Oct 14 20:06:40 Segmentation fault Oct 14 20:06:49 cute Oct 14 20:07:02 did you update python, svn, or debian as such? Oct 14 20:08:13 I installed python24-svn python23-svn Oct 14 20:08:13 see my lart above Oct 14 20:47:32 bb trunk w/ BB_NUMBER_THREADS=3 is broken for me Oct 14 20:47:56 time to bed Oct 14 20:48:00 cu all Oct 14 20:48:19 cu, gnite Oct 14 20:49:02 nite hrw Oct 14 20:52:18 likewise: I haven't found any issues with the stuff I build for :) Oct 14 20:55:16 n8 Oct 14 20:55:27 koen: you prob have quilt on your host Oct 14 20:55:46 ah, right Oct 14 20:56:42 koen: this is what happens: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1487 Oct 14 20:56:50 I just read that :) Oct 14 20:57:24 * koen follows zecke's example Oct 14 21:02:28 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r19c78f41... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): dbus: add 0.94 (1.0 RC 2) Oct 14 22:36:11 re mickeyl Oct 14 22:36:15 hi Oct 15 01:57:24 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r4e215232... 10/ (1 packages/diffutils/diffutils_2.8.1.bb): Oct 15 01:57:24 diffutils 2.8.1: Use alternatives for diff since busybox also supplies a Oct 15 01:57:24 diff command. As per #1472. Oct 15 01:57:29 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r52356cfd... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Oct 15 01:57:29 psmisc: Psmisc was updated to use alternatives for fuser, however the PR Oct 15 01:57:29 wasn't incremented, so bump the PR so the change gets propagated. Oct 15 02:22:14 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r017c3ffd... 10/ (1 packages/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.2.13.bb): Oct 15 02:22:14 fakeroot 1.2.13: Fakeroot requires getopt which is provided via util-linux, Oct 15 02:22:14 so make it RDEPEND on util-linux. Closes #1452. Oct 15 02:22:19 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r5c481417... 10/ (1 packages/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.2.13.bb): fakeroot 1.2.13: Run it through oe-stylize.py to tidy it up. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 15 02:59:57 2006