**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 26 02:59:57 2006 Oct 26 03:41:29 kergoth: You around? Oct 26 06:29:14 morning Oct 26 06:35:41 morning all Oct 26 06:39:41 morning Oct 26 06:40:08 RP: looks like task-base need some new features added... 'fuse' for example Oct 26 06:40:26 http://pastebin.ca/221651 to be solved Oct 26 06:40:58 RP: also I'm wondering how to solve ALSA machine modules if distro does not want alsa Oct 26 06:41:18 we cant add them into MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS but need to know how they are named Oct 26 06:45:25 MODULE_NAME_ALSA? Oct 26 06:53:29 what sort of crazy distro wants to keep oss Oct 26 06:53:44 especially as its leaving the kernel Oct 26 06:55:02 XorA: think of distro which does not want sound at all Oct 26 06:55:59 XorA, RP: "Zaurus CE-RC2 remote" - do you know who can get use from it? Oct 26 06:56:00 hrw: then why do you neede the ALSA modules? Oct 26 06:56:58 hrw: you got a spare one of them? Oct 26 06:57:12 XorA: got donation offer Oct 26 06:57:19 MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS_c7x0 = "kernel-module-snd-soc-corgi" Oct 26 06:57:36 XorA: I want to resolve this line from zaurus-2.6.conf Oct 26 06:58:02 hrw: There is no 2.6 driver for the remote. If we want a 2.6 driver, there is probably only one way it will happen... Oct 26 06:58:16 hrw: Do we have a distro which doesn't want to support ALSA? Oct 26 06:58:34 RP: currently not Oct 26 06:59:08 but same situation is with acx100 wifi in some palmtops etc Oct 26 06:59:10 hi den-ros Oct 26 06:59:14 hrw: Lets not worry about it then. task-base was there to solve most current problems. It was never intented to be 100% generic, just capable of being that if anyone requested it Oct 26 06:59:20 RP: is remote driver going to be a complex code? Oct 26 06:59:56 XorA: Not complex, but Justin could never get my driver working and it looks like it'll be a pain to debug Oct 26 06:59:59 XorA: its related to audio on Z so maybe you will be able to get worktime ;D Oct 26 07:00:34 RP: hrw well I was wondering if it might be something I could do in spare time as practice Oct 26 07:01:14 hrw: hi :) . Hi all. Oct 26 07:01:20 XorA: You might have more time than me to spend on it... Oct 26 07:02:09 How do I add files to the autoconf macro directory? http://rafb.net/paste/results/woTMI578.html I have a recipe that generates Makefile and configure in do_bootstrap which I added. Oct 26 07:02:19 hrw: Well feel free to send it to me and Ill have a look Oct 26 07:04:44 ok Oct 26 07:05:40 yay transformers on tv Oct 26 07:07:20 sent mail Oct 26 07:07:48 * XorA goes for breakfast, probably back when on train home tonight Oct 26 07:10:44 hello Oct 26 07:25:06 cu Oct 26 07:26:14 ++ Oct 26 07:46:52 re Oct 26 07:47:33 morning all Oct 26 08:04:56 good morning all Oct 26 08:06:00 good morning sir Oct 26 08:25:33 koen|away: use import bb Oct 26 08:26:02 zecke: no, you use import bb ;) Oct 26 08:26:36 hehe Oct 26 08:26:48 could you do me a favor an test this funky patch? Oct 26 08:27:12 sure Oct 26 08:27:18 + import bb Oct 26 08:27:45 malformed patch Oct 26 08:27:55 don't use GNU patch :) Oct 26 08:28:00 zpatch rocks Oct 26 08:28:17 same as zsh Oct 26 08:30:07 and zgcc Oct 26 08:31:07 hrw|work: you got my name backwards :-) Oct 26 08:34:26 "kompilacją skrośną" Oct 26 08:35:15 good morning Oct 26 08:35:58 hey florian_kc Oct 26 08:39:23 koen: okay I will push a patch :) Oct 26 08:39:34 you will? Oct 26 08:39:43 that's a bit too late I fear Oct 26 08:39:56 hehe Oct 26 08:39:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1ed60e90... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): insane.bbclass: import bb Oct 26 08:40:05 hehe, disapprove :) Oct 26 08:40:36 XorA|gprs: I supposed it Oct 26 08:44:01 koen: I do not like this name Oct 26 08:44:39 in dutch it's 'kruis compileren' Oct 26 08:44:50 which can be read as 'crotch compiling' Oct 26 08:45:17 koen: so did it find any broken package yet? Oct 26 08:46:25 zecke: hundreds! Oct 26 08:46:38 koen: are they really broken? Oct 26 08:48:14 haven't checked them all Oct 26 08:49:33 some were broken? Oct 26 08:50:47 The ones I checked aren't broken anymore :) Oct 26 08:50:51 * likewise scratched his crotch Oct 26 08:51:28 koen: Why is lib-package.bbclass not in bitbake.conf as standard? Oct 26 08:51:57 RP: I have no idea, I only learned of it's existance yesterday Oct 26 08:52:05 its* Oct 26 08:56:16 XorA|gprs: so Graeme is name? Oct 26 08:56:17 gettig booted out :-) Oct 26 08:56:30 %4 Oct 26 08:56:56 hrw|work: yes Oct 26 08:57:19 XorA|gprs: congrats, btw Oct 26 08:57:41 koen: what for Oct 26 08:58:03 XorA|gprs: for being a year older than last year :) Oct 26 08:58:20 koen: cheers Oct 26 08:58:45 XorA|gprs: I would blame Gordon Dickson for that mistake Oct 26 09:00:26 who that? Oct 26 09:00:36 XorA|gprs: book writer. Oct 26 09:05:35 XorA|gprs: wrote nice SF saga where mainhero was Graham -> Graeme Oct 26 09:06:26 :-) at least you can spell me name right Oct 26 09:06:35 cya Oct 26 09:06:56 time to go to linuxworld Oct 26 10:04:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcd4bc9a7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Oct 26 10:04:49 gcc 4.1.1: Add patch from Dallas Foley to fix EABI on armv4t Oct 26 10:04:49 * no more 'clz' isns in binaries Oct 26 10:06:57 does OE work decently on an amd64-system? Oct 26 10:07:32 if you don't compile stuff produced by the mozilla foundation, yes Oct 26 10:08:00 heh ok Oct 26 10:08:22 actually it's kinda to start developping for opie Oct 26 10:16:21 codus: you should discuss this with zecke :-) Oct 26 10:16:31 hell no Oct 26 10:16:36 *g* Oct 26 10:17:08 I don't have any experience anyway, so I couldn't ever replace mickeyl right now, if that's what you meant :-) Oct 26 10:17:14 zecke: maybe codus is paid by ljp ;) Oct 26 10:17:21 * florian_kc *hides* Oct 26 10:19:05 codus: did you report build error on amd64 yesterday? Oct 26 10:19:05 codus: heh no... i had this in mind: http://zecke.blogspot.com/2006/10/joys-of-freedom-rip-opie.html Oct 26 10:19:05 eh I didn't report anything :-) I was trying to get qt built but didn't have much time :-) Oct 26 10:19:07 so I'll try again tonight or something Oct 26 10:19:23 but first I have to attend to some kind of presentation of telindus Oct 26 10:22:18 I'm off Oct 26 10:22:25 I'll build it tonight Oct 26 10:22:26 bye;) Oct 26 10:22:31 codus: later :) Oct 26 10:22:37 florian_kc: hehe Oct 26 10:25:53 good morning folks Oct 26 10:26:02 hey chris144 Oct 26 10:26:05 hi koen Oct 26 10:26:58 koen: i suspected that it is busybox mount but had no time to investigate further... Oct 26 10:27:33 I keep forgetting to find a fix for that Oct 26 10:28:06 sweet, busybox 1.2.2 Oct 26 10:28:07 http://busybox.net/ Oct 26 10:37:48 "I suppose it's about time I caught up with the group: all my coworkers have contingency plans for what to do after TimeSys implodes. Yes, that's a "when", not an "if". Since I started at TimeSys, over half the engineering staff has left (Brian, Gary, Bill, Manas, Pragnesh, Sam, Walt, Chris, Ashish, David, Christian, Tony... and Ravi just left on a five week "vacation" back to India. I'm probably missing a few.) In addition to me, this leaves Garrett, Pi Oct 26 10:37:57 from http://landley.net/notes.html Oct 26 10:39:09 zecke: doing a QA run from scratch now Oct 26 10:41:19 koen: didn't the MVista folks leave torwards TimeSys? Oct 26 10:41:28 yes Oct 26 10:41:51 hehe Oct 26 10:44:52 OT: how can one disable the nautilus spartial view? Oct 26 10:45:28 zecke: iirc via gconf-editor Oct 26 10:45:40 zecke: ubuntu should have it disabled by default Oct 26 10:47:13 NOTE: package busybox-1.2.2-r0: task do_patch: completed Oct 26 10:47:19 koen: not with edgy :) Oct 26 10:48:40 zecke: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0d7bKo93.html Oct 26 10:50:20 hmm Oct 26 10:56:51 glibc-2.5 runs fine on EABI systems Oct 26 10:59:10 Crofton: yes. koen use it for it Oct 26 11:02:03 Crofton: glibc 2.4 doesn't run fine on EABI systems :) Oct 26 11:02:58 I am wondering why the alignment changes between the two tool chains Oct 26 11:05:12 Crofton: EABI dictates stricter aligment, so gcc could behave differently Oct 26 11:07:57 I guess the moral of the story is do not build glibc-2.5 on ARM with the old ABI Oct 26 11:20:02 zecke: any solution for that problem? (insane.bbclass) Oct 26 11:20:27 koen: I have no clue why this asisgnment would fail :) Oct 26 11:28:19 Crofton, : i run in oabi :( Oct 26 11:28:33 but glibc-3.5 Oct 26 11:28:51 PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc ?= "2.3.5+cvs20050627" Oct 26 11:33:33 :) Oct 26 11:42:56 koen: paste the issue again :) Oct 26 11:43:15 bug ; in conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf PREFERERD_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl <= PREFERER Oct 26 11:43:37 zecke: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0d7bKo93.html Oct 26 11:44:03 ( perharps i should learn to make commit ) Oct 26 11:44:40 koen: that doesn't make any sense Oct 26 11:44:52 chewbacca! Oct 26 11:54:22 zecke: could bitbake trunk be the problem? Oct 26 11:56:46 koen: "and After I stopped working on BusyBox I started over from scratch, and this is the result. The goal of toybox is a small, simple, complete implementation of the standard Linux command line utilities" Oct 26 11:57:37 koen: tell me how an assignment could fail... Oct 26 11:57:55 koen: please try another BitBake just to be sure Oct 26 11:59:56 koen: this would have been broken before as well :} Oct 26 12:02:26 zecke: bitbake -b give the same error, but a shitload more debug spew Oct 26 12:02:41 paste it :) Oct 26 12:02:55 I think I have the moment to test as well Oct 26 12:03:30 zecke: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/workdir.log Oct 26 12:08:28 ah Oct 26 12:10:03 python is right :) Oct 26 12:10:22 wait a second Oct 26 12:18:22 ~hail mtn for saving my add Oct 26 12:18:36 * ibot bows down to mtn for saving my add and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 26 12:22:01 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r9b5794e3... 10/ (1 packages/fbgrab/fbgrab_1.0.bb): packages/fbgrab: Fix build dependencies of fbgrab Oct 26 12:22:07 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rd34ccce7... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): classes/insane.class: Make workdir known, remove whitespace Oct 26 12:22:12 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r194df4f8... 10/ (1 classes/test.bbclass): Oct 26 12:22:12 classes/test.bbclass: Make sure tests are really executed Oct 26 12:22:12 Make sure tests are really executed by adding the task Oct 26 12:22:12 before do_build. Oct 26 12:22:17 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * ra7575627... 10/ (53 files in 4 dirs): packages: Add net-tools to OpenEmbedded Oct 26 12:22:25 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r1db4aa57... 10/ (1 packages/net-tools/net-tools_1.60.bb): packages/net-tools/net-tools_1.60: Obey at least one policy and remove MAINTAINER Oct 26 12:22:51 "obey at least one policy" sounds like is needs more work :) Oct 26 12:23:38 RP: yes, but more work on my site to know about all policies :} Oct 26 12:27:45 RP: besides that net-tools worked on my EZX phone Oct 26 12:28:44 zecke: :) Oct 26 12:30:36 i've a problem of touchscreen with xorg modular ; http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1531 Oct 26 12:30:58 i searsh since yesterday , i don't find :/ Oct 26 12:31:55 Genesis: don't use -mouse Oct 26 12:32:41 what should i use instead ? Oct 26 12:32:50 and of course this one: Oct 26 12:32:51 if i remove -mouse /dev/input/event0 Oct 26 12:32:53 "Failed to open TSLib device, tried /dev/ts /dev/touchscreen/0 . Oct 26 12:32:53 Try setting TSLIB_TSDEVICE to valid /dev entry?" Oct 26 12:33:03 i tried to set it Oct 26 12:33:17 no way Oct 26 12:33:45 kdrive blows up when you try to use it as a 'mouse' in recent versions Oct 26 12:33:55 i see that Oct 26 12:37:08 If i remove the -mouse parameter , i don't Oct 26 12:37:08 Switching to mouse protocol "imps/2" Oct 26 12:37:08 Switching to mouse protocol "exps/2" Oct 26 12:37:45 ( with TSLIB_TSDEVICE exported ) Oct 26 12:39:54 udev has a udev rule that should make the /dev/input/touchscreen/0 symlink Oct 26 12:40:52 i'vent udev Oct 26 12:41:07 i already try to make a symlinl Oct 26 12:41:21 koen: /dev/input/touchscreen0. devfs should die ;-) Oct 26 12:41:26 well, is dead Oct 26 12:41:44 i create my dev by hand Oct 26 12:41:54 RP: back in the UK? Oct 26 12:42:55 koen: No Oct 26 12:43:04 RP, : hey , that worked with poky and the kdrive xserver-kdrive = "20050207" Oct 26 12:43:04 koen: I get back late tomorrow Oct 26 12:44:03 Genesis: Poky has moved on since then Oct 26 12:44:39 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r121df127... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.17-hh2.bb): (log message trimmed) Oct 26 12:44:39 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.17-hh2: First stable release of HH.org 2.6.17-based kernel. Oct 26 12:44:39 Changes since 2.6.17-hh1 include: Oct 26 12:44:39 * h2200/h3900/h4000/hx4700/htcuniversal upgraded to generic backlight driver. Oct 26 12:44:39 * ALSA drivers fixed. Oct 26 12:44:40 * hx4700 navpoint fixes. Oct 26 12:44:42 * h2200/hx4700 IrDA fixes. Oct 26 12:44:46 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r1d925118... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.16-hh7.bb): Oct 26 12:44:48 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.16-hh7: Remove DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" Oct 26 12:44:50 * Undergone good testing, including in OE. Oct 26 12:44:52 * Anyway, contains few changes comparing to -hh5 which it supercedes now. Oct 26 12:49:12 psokolovsky_: don't forget to add new defconfigs for the backlight stuff Oct 26 12:49:33 koen, ok, thanks for hint Oct 26 12:50:21 RP, : yeap but i've some difficultie setting it with new xorg modular Oct 26 12:53:37 Genesis: It works just the same in poky... Oct 26 12:54:20 RP: cbrake is going to merge the poky cmx270 bits into OE Oct 26 13:00:11 koen: ok, although I'm not sure that machine is quite ready for widespread usage yet Oct 26 13:01:25 RP: cbrake has one and has added compule-cm270 to .dev, but is going to follow your naming scheme Oct 26 13:01:31 koen: better? Oct 26 13:01:32 RP: hence 'merging' :) Oct 26 13:01:40 zecke: it seems to work now Oct 26 13:02:26 koen: Ah, right - using a common naming scheme would be desireable :) Oct 26 13:02:46 koen: I'll be doing some work with that code next week... Oct 26 13:04:40 and if everything goes well OE will have a techsol board to use as a project device Oct 26 13:06:19 sounds good :) Oct 26 13:06:53 mickeyl should have a mail about that in his inbox :) Oct 26 13:10:15 koen: finally not palmtop in project devices Oct 26 13:10:35 hrw|work: indeed Oct 26 13:10:44 hrw|work: and not armv5 as well Oct 26 13:10:50 ;) Oct 26 13:16:06 hrw|work: thanks for the www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/description/initscript hint from yesterday. I found what I was looking for. Oct 26 13:16:31 chris144: thx to zecke - he wrote bonsai Oct 26 13:16:37 YEAH, YEAH :) Oct 26 13:16:45 Send me Pizza, or stuff from my amazon wishlist :} Oct 26 13:17:01 zecke: your amazon list is up-to-date? Oct 26 13:17:22 just because i have cds from the 60's on? Oct 26 13:17:40 is there an ibot command to appreciate somebody? Oct 26 13:17:43 no, I'm asking to know does it is update Oct 26 13:17:49 hrw|work: good point, I will update Oct 26 13:17:49 ~hail zecke you mean? Oct 26 13:17:51 * ibot bows down to zecke you mean and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 26 13:18:05 ah hail, ok let me try... Oct 26 13:18:23 ~hail zecke Oct 26 13:18:25 * ibot bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 26 13:18:37 :-) Oct 26 13:20:00 lol, I'm the lost password test monkey Oct 26 13:20:04 and amazon just failed :) Oct 26 13:22:34 someone know what are those clocksources which recently were discussed on lakml and linux-omap lists? Oct 26 13:23:06 hrw|work: standardization of clocks and timers Oct 26 13:23:16 hrw|work: so you can use the same api on every board Oct 26 13:24:26 nice Oct 26 13:24:48 by those shitty projects at work I'm getting out too often Oct 26 13:26:55 hrw|work: did you ask your boss that monday? Oct 26 13:28:31 zecke: nope - some other things passed into queue Oct 26 13:39:38 hi Oct 26 13:41:26 hi CoreDump|home Oct 26 13:51:56 morning Oct 26 15:19:55 later Oct 26 15:29:27 koen|away: did you get a chance to test that gcc arm9tdmi patch ? Oct 26 15:29:35 morning Oct 26 15:39:15 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * recc737f0... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): octave 2.1.71 fix SECTION Oct 26 15:39:24 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r73cdb33c... 10/ (1 packages/popt/popt-native_1.7.bb packages/popt/popt_1.7.bb): popt[-native] 1.7 DEPEND on gettext-native Oct 26 15:42:24 dfoley: dominic rath tested it for me Oct 26 15:43:14 dfoley: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=cd4bc9a768c327a3cdb533441efac2b87cdb7af0 Oct 26 15:45:23 * chouimat|ibook is away: boring and painfull stuff for most of the afternoon :( Oct 26 15:47:55 koen: so noworking glibc will non work on armv4t :-) Oct 26 15:48:12 XorA|gprs: yes! Oct 26 15:48:27 XorA|gprs: oops, I forgot to CC: with my mail to lrg about that Oct 26 15:48:37 s/cc:/cc: you/ Oct 26 15:50:24 * ade|desk tries to work out what XorA|gprs tried to say, but gives up in the end Oct 26 15:51:00 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r185633f8... 10/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Oct 26 15:51:00 altboot: Oct 26 15:51:00 - Add altbootctl to set altboot options on a permanent or per-reboot basis Oct 26 15:51:00 - Only remember selections for the next boot that actually make sense Oct 26 15:51:00 - Cleanup of run_timer() Oct 26 15:51:00 - Disabled existing kexec modules due to a planned rework Oct 26 15:51:06 koen: if you quickly mail it i shall read it before him Oct 26 15:51:51 XorA|gprs: sent :) Oct 26 15:52:30 ade|desk: glibc isnt one hundred per cent functional, now it will just not function fully on armv4t as well Oct 26 15:52:48 ah ok Oct 26 15:53:03 it's actually a gcc problem Oct 26 15:53:11 meh armv4t ... whats the point ;) Oct 26 15:53:17 gcc will output armv5 asm even it you tell it to compile for armv4 Oct 26 15:53:49 koen: damn rms Oct 26 15:54:05 root mean square ? Oct 26 15:54:24 XorA|gprs: damn csl Oct 26 15:54:58 koen: i assume thats a new feature Oct 26 15:55:36 gcc 4.2 or lesser ? Oct 26 15:56:16 koen|away: i was away for a bit. YAAH it works Oct 26 15:56:20 koen: spoke to wooky about emdebian Oct 26 15:56:52 ah how is wookey ? Oct 26 15:56:54 XorA|gprs: he claimed credit for stuff other people have done? Oct 26 15:57:37 koen: nope he was quite glowing in praise of oe Oct 26 15:57:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd0a5769f... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc_4.1.1.bb): gcc 4.1.1: bump PR Oct 26 15:58:00 koen: but glibc bugs are causinn them pain Oct 26 15:58:01 XorA|gprs: he has to, after we outed martin as an OE user :) Oct 26 15:58:03 morning all Oct 26 15:58:11 hey lrg Oct 26 15:58:26 * lrg and XorA are on the train Oct 26 15:58:38 koen: although they are apparently using maemo Oct 26 16:00:21 a+ Oct 26 16:01:21 unfortuneately i had to leave before i could do gorrila invasion on the embedded connary talk Oct 26 16:02:22 * XorA|gprs finally met ohies as well Oct 26 16:03:00 XorA|gprs: mallum & gang? Oct 26 16:03:11 koen: yeah Oct 26 16:07:33 has anyone had any luck getting dropbear to work with glib 2.5? I keep getting the following error: ssh: ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/check_pf.c:68: make_request: Assertion `sizeof (req) - ((size_t) &((struct req *)0)->pad) == 3' failed. Oct 26 16:08:41 it works with glibc 2.3 Oct 26 16:13:07 edin crew in the haus Oct 26 16:18:40 i need to look at SH4 support .. i cant find jornada related kernel.bb files ?? Oct 26 16:20:19 Gerrath: Crofton_ found out that it only occurs w/ glib-2.5 OABI, EABI is ok. if you patch out the assert, it seems to work :/ Oct 26 16:27:25 um Oct 26 16:27:40 I never patchwed ourt the assert ... Oct 26 16:28:01 I just checked the alignment Oct 26 16:30:39 oh Oct 26 16:30:54 i would be interested in whether it just works(tm) when you remove the assert or whether it still breaks Oct 26 16:31:01 if you have a chance, please give it a try Oct 26 16:35:10 I'll try Oct 26 16:35:31 of course, now dropbear isn't letting me log in more than once Oct 26 16:35:39 and things are ca=razy today ... Oct 26 16:36:09 i wonder where all the problems with glibc 2.4 on arm are. my images seem to run fine !? Oct 26 16:36:14 (OABI, that is) Oct 26 16:36:35 mickeyl: The problems are in EABI Oct 26 16:36:35 I think koan said in shm stuff Oct 26 16:36:42 RP: ah! Oct 26 16:37:37 Crofton|home: that might be because of lack of ptys Oct 26 16:37:41 http://fredericiana.com/ lol, didn't know MS guys had any humor Oct 26 16:38:15 giel, thanks, I am not at my OSK right now, but I will look into it this afternoon Oct 26 16:38:20 any hints on how to fix? Oct 26 16:39:04 hm Oct 26 16:39:14 i'm always in a fight with dev/pts myself Oct 26 16:40:26 you can check if devpts is mounted on /dev/pts, but i guess it is or else you probably wouldn't be able to log in at all Oct 26 16:56:04 giel, I did check /dev/pts interesting is my system running glibc 2.3 has /dev/pts/1 but my glibc 2.5 system has an empty folder for /dev/pts/ I'm not sure I follow how this could be the issue. Oct 26 17:07:13 kergoth, you around? Oct 26 17:24:59 Gerrath: /dev/pts/* nodes are made on the fly, so if you checked over serial, there will be none, for every ssh session there will be one Oct 26 17:26:22 * XorA|gprs notes XorA|gone went Oct 26 17:33:20 Crofton|home, what did you do to get dropbear to work with glic2.5? Oct 26 17:33:32 EABI .... Oct 26 17:48:36 ugh :( woe me woe me Oct 26 17:48:59 installing openembedded is going to take a long time Oct 26 17:49:30 with my briliant internet connection Oct 26 17:50:07 61.3kB/s is a peak Oct 26 18:03:48 RP: I'm am looking at your cmx270 work in poky and considering pulling some of it into dev Oct 26 18:03:50 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6f9c626d... 10/ (1 packages/alsa/alsa-lib_1.0.11.bb): alsa-lib: Remove bogus PACAGES_DYNAMIC Oct 26 18:04:11 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rfc54948b... 10/ (1 packages/efl/esmart.inc): esmart: Remove bogus PACAGES_DYNAMIC Oct 26 18:04:26 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r822bda61... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass): glibc-package.bbclass: Fix PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Oct 26 18:04:41 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rb23c968e... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libsoup: Remove bogus PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Oct 26 18:04:53 cbrake: koen mentioned that you were... Oct 26 18:04:55 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re9286fd5... 10/ (1 packages/gnutls/gnutls_1.4.0.bb): gnutls: Remove bogus PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Oct 26 18:05:04 RP: do you any recommendations as to what kernel is best to start with: linux-cmx270-rp or linux-cmx270? Oct 26 18:05:08 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r91299b05... 10/ (1 packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_0.4.0-20060804.bb): libmimedir: Remove bogus PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Oct 26 18:05:22 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8661dad7... 10/ (1 packages/python/python_2.4.3.bb): python: Remove bogus PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Oct 26 18:05:34 RP: also, is there any issue with copying stuff from poky to dev -- are they both the same license, etc? Oct 26 18:05:45 cbrake: linux-cmx270 is know to work Oct 26 18:06:01 cbrake: Same license, just say where it came from in the commit Oct 26 18:06:20 RP: ok, will do Oct 26 18:07:31 RP: what procedure do you use to flash the NAND flash? Can this be done in the BL, or do you have to boot Linux from NOR w/ MTD support? Oct 26 18:08:45 cbrake: I've used the BL but only with ext2 images. I want to get jffs2 running which is what the -rp kernel was about but I was working remotely on the board at the time and didn't get very far Oct 26 18:09:28 cbrake: The support in poky is experimental which is why its not been merged with OE yet. I might be looking at it a bit more next week Oct 26 18:11:32 CoreDump|home: where can I find your commits? Oct 26 18:11:50 it's in .dev Oct 26 18:11:52 ah, in the OE mtn ;-) Oct 26 18:12:00 I thought you'd have it in your own SVN or something Oct 26 18:12:01 bitbake altboot_0.0.0.bb Oct 26 18:12:02 * JustinP looks Oct 26 18:12:09 yeah, I know that much ;-) Oct 26 18:12:21 ;) Oct 26 18:12:48 ooo, nice :-) altbootctl Oct 26 18:16:39 comments on that are very welcome Oct 26 18:17:10 I'll attempt to test it later today Oct 26 18:17:27 hopefully it won't axe my boot....perhaps I should test it in an image first... Oct 26 18:17:47 it should be safe enough...in theory hehe Oct 26 18:18:55 I'll build a .dev image and try it out there Oct 26 18:19:13 not like I'm hurting for build power or disk space ;-) Oct 26 18:19:35 JustinP: Lucky you ;-) Oct 26 18:20:02 yeah.....I finally got some new HDs.....finally had some money Oct 26 18:20:22 my Z isn't hurting too bad, though, for space is what I meant Oct 26 18:20:31 easy to just pop on a new image :-) Oct 26 18:20:34 ~hail C3000 Oct 26 18:20:36 * ibot bows down to C3000 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 26 18:20:44 ah, right :) Oct 26 18:30:18 Crofton, what was the failure case for dropbear/glibc 2.5? mine is working okay on ppc. Oct 26 18:34:27 dropbear would trip on an assert inside glibc Oct 26 18:34:38 some form of alignment issue with a glibc struct Oct 26 18:37:26 whas there any particular activity? time? I'd just like to reproduce it, if possible. Oct 26 18:37:40 start dropbear :) Oct 26 18:37:47 I would use dropbear -F Oct 26 18:38:10 It was specific to using the old ABI Oct 26 18:38:15 as opposed to EABI Oct 26 18:38:29 the powerpc tool chain might be OK Oct 26 18:38:50 the assert is in sysdeps......check_pf.c Oct 26 18:38:52 so far so good, i shoved a gig of traffic through it as a stress test. md5'd perfectly. Oct 26 18:39:13 now I have a problem ssh'ing in though Oct 26 18:39:23 I do not have anything in /dev/pts/ Oct 26 18:39:34 what kernel are you using? Oct 26 18:39:44 2.6.18 for the omap1 Oct 26 18:40:11 udev then? Oct 26 18:40:43 yeah running udev Oct 26 18:42:01 you can force those entries a couple of different ways. it's wierd they don't show up. Oct 26 18:42:23 yeah Oct 26 18:42:42 I suspect there is some magic I need to do ... Oct 26 18:42:52 then it should work Oct 26 18:43:21 I have a devpts on /dev/pts Oct 26 18:43:34 and a boatload of pty's in /dev Oct 26 18:43:50 Crofton: disable legacy pty Oct 26 18:43:57 where? Oct 26 18:44:02 kconfig? Oct 26 18:44:08 Crofton: defconfig of your kernel Oct 26 18:44:11 ah Oct 26 18:44:31 will that help with /dev/pts? Oct 26 18:45:10 no but the many, many pty's will be removed :) Oct 26 18:45:16 ok Oct 26 18:47:18 What should I do to get the pts stuff goign? Oct 26 18:49:44 hrw|gone, you really gone? Oct 26 18:51:02 is your /etc/udev/* intact? it really should work. you could fall back on the /usr/lib/udev hack. Oct 26 18:51:56 yes Oct 26 18:52:14 I am goign to reboot Oct 26 18:52:37 save off your dmesg so you can compare against newer kernels. Oct 26 19:00:20 when booting I get a .udev/ already exists on static/dev message Oct 26 19:02:49 i've seen that in openslug, which i'm not running now. )-; Oct 26 19:05:29 Crofton, sorry i can't help more, i'm still sorta green with udev... i know you can turn on more debugging into. Oct 26 19:05:40 yeah Oct 26 19:05:42 me too Oct 26 19:06:13 I am going to reflash my filesystem Oct 26 19:06:25 I did reboot at a bad time when I first booted it Oct 26 19:11:01 is it normal that updating the local copy of the OE database for the first time takes alot of time? Oct 26 19:11:14 I would say so Oct 26 19:11:38 You downloaded the snapshot? Oct 26 19:11:51 but I don't see any network traffic Oct 26 19:11:56 Crofton: yes Oct 26 19:12:16 but there is activity on the screen? Oct 26 19:12:27 no Oct 26 19:12:36 it stays at Oct 26 19:12:43 mtn: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org Oct 26 19:12:56 that would suggest you can't connect Oct 26 19:12:59 let me check Oct 26 19:13:06 ok Oct 26 19:13:26 hmm Oct 26 19:13:32 I can't connect either Oct 26 19:13:44 someone needs to kick the server Oct 26 19:14:20 mickeyl, who can kick monotone.oe.org? Oct 26 19:15:38 * Crofton blushes Oct 26 19:15:46 I was ssh'ing to the wrong address Oct 26 19:15:52 curse up arrow Oct 26 19:16:01 I could very accurately repeat my error Oct 26 19:16:19 zecke, you still around? Oct 26 19:18:03 yes Oct 26 19:18:15 montone.oe.org appears dead Oct 26 19:20:17 * chouimat|ibook is back. Oct 26 19:21:24 hmm lood is quite high Oct 26 19:23:44 Crofton: no, the load is only 20 :) so try again later :) Oct 26 19:23:44 zecke, cockpit error on dropbear not accepting connections :) Oct 26 19:23:47 ok Oct 26 19:23:56 codus, you get that? Oct 26 19:24:06 yep :-) thanks Oct 26 19:24:58 I fear we are getting indexed by google :} Oct 26 19:25:05 heh Oct 26 19:25:17 time to add nofollow again Oct 26 19:25:19 I can just let it run right? it'll connect automagicly if there's some place for my connection? Oct 26 19:25:37 Crofton: I can't see the access logs though Oct 26 19:25:52 we have 5 mtn connections atm Oct 26 19:26:51 koen|away: ping? Oct 26 19:29:34 mickeyl: can you read access.log? Oct 26 19:31:45 hi Oct 26 19:31:49 Crofton|home: now not gone Oct 26 19:32:03 I enabled EABI in my kernel, I have glibc_2.5 as my glibc package, how do I tell glibc to compile with EABI enabled? Oct 26 19:32:34 Gerrath: TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi" iirc - look in angstrom Oct 26 19:32:36 I'm aware I need to rebuild all packages but I just want to make sure I have everything set up correctly before I start the long build process :-) Oct 26 19:32:43 hrw, thanks. Oct 26 19:33:02 hrw, I guess it follows the same method as uclibc and glibc :-) Oct 26 19:33:09 Gerrath: or to simplify: DISTRO = "angstrom-2007.1" Oct 26 19:33:19 hrw, thanks. Oct 26 19:34:06 hrw, is it pretty stable or will there be a lot of packages that will have issues if I use EABI? Oct 26 19:35:08 Gerrath: never tried eabi Oct 26 19:36:12 good night folks Oct 26 19:36:20 okay nothing I can do... Oct 26 19:36:23 nite Oct 26 19:42:17 Gerrath, enable EABI in kconfig and use TAREGT_OS = linux-gnueabi Oct 26 19:43:07 Crofton_, do you recommend using the angstrom-2007.1 distro or just stick with the generic distro and set the TARGET_OS to linux-gnueabi? Oct 26 19:43:57 depends what you ar interested in I guess Oct 26 19:44:12 I use openomap, but mainly for histroical reasons Oct 26 19:45:00 Crofton_, is the eabi build pretty stable, are there any package build issues with it that you know of? the generic distro has given me everything I have needed so far, but I I thought maybe angstrom would be better since it already works with eabi. Oct 26 19:46:06 Gerrath: I would use angstrom for one more reason - currently it is EABI distro which works and even Debian use it Oct 26 19:49:38 hrw, thanks, I tend to agree with you. Oct 26 19:49:52 you can try both :) Oct 26 19:49:58 Gerrath: koen is local eabi guru Oct 26 20:00:49 * chouimat|ibook is away: out Oct 26 20:16:40 re Oct 26 20:42:04 kergoth: Hey, were you anywhere near the 635 when yo were in dallas? Oct 26 20:42:27 ibot: botmail for zecke: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/QA-issues-2.log Oct 26 20:42:43 ~curse vmware Oct 26 20:42:48 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, vmware ! Oct 26 20:43:05 ~curse QA Oct 26 20:43:06 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/QA-issues-2.log Oct 26 20:43:18 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, QA ! Oct 26 20:44:46 ggilbert_: yep, i was around where 635 hits 75 Oct 26 20:46:20 Is that by the microcenter? Oct 26 20:46:32 I ran into a TI building,b ut I'm assuming they have more than one Oct 26 20:48:33 going by this map, it looks like it is. So the next question is, do you have anyplace you'd recommend eating at? I've not had the bst of luck so far :p Oct 26 20:48:37 kergoth: any news about writing driver for collie sd for 2.6? Oct 26 20:48:49 ;) Oct 26 20:49:06 Clearly my question is of much more global importance Oct 26 20:57:54 cu Oct 26 21:54:46 * v8jlene is back Oct 27 00:33:05 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rec573d09... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6.inc): Oct 27 00:33:05 linux-handhelds 2.6: Remove stray FILESDIR from .inc. Oct 27 00:33:05 * Not used, doesn't belong to .inc anyway. Oct 27 00:48:32 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r319ad827... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) Oct 27 00:48:32 linux-handhelds-2.6: Prepare to finish upgrade to 2.6.17. Oct 27 00:48:32 * Aim: support few kernel releases nicely and transparently. Oct 27 00:48:32 * Issue: different kernel versions/releases (may) have different defconfigs. Oct 27 00:48:32 * Requirement: we need files dir to be override not just on PN, amd not just on Oct 27 00:48:33 MACHINE, but additionally on some version string, which doesn't necessarily have Oct 27 00:48:37 to be PV (for example, current situation is that 2.6.16 vs 2.6.17 need different Oct 27 01:26:58 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8e4dedd1... 10/ (12 files in 7 dirs): Oct 27 01:26:58 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.17-hh2: Add updated defconfigs (+ same old patches). Oct 27 01:26:58 * More machines on todo. Oct 27 01:52:29 * chouimat|ibook is back. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 27 02:59:57 2006