**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 31 02:59:57 2006 Oct 31 05:47:26 Would anyone tell me how to build mips64 toolchain for OE? Oct 31 05:47:40 My mips is 64-bit Oct 31 07:43:02 hello Oct 31 08:01:54 morning Oct 31 08:03:04 morning all Oct 31 08:06:01 RP: looks like I will play with 2.6 on few years old machine soon Oct 31 08:08:35 hrw: Its still running 2.4? Oct 31 08:09:47 2.6 too Oct 31 08:09:59 and its x86^wtransmeta based so less problems probably Oct 31 08:10:12 ah :) Oct 31 08:13:46 hey guys .. xcalibrateest is not available on openbembedded.org/sources neither via git at git20060814 , what can i do ? Oct 31 08:14:11 bump srcdate until it exist in git? Oct 31 08:14:44 git doesn't work with srcdates... Oct 31 08:18:40 ah Oct 31 08:18:45 I go to work - cu Oct 31 08:26:04 RP, so what can i do ?? Oct 31 08:36:10 morning all Oct 31 08:41:00 morning Oct 31 08:45:44 yo ade|desk & hrw|work Oct 31 08:51:10 hrw|work: remote arrived Oct 31 08:51:18 XorA: ok Oct 31 08:51:28 hrw|work: will update wiki when I get chance Oct 31 09:00:43 ok Oct 31 09:02:44 RP: you said you sent a remote driver to someone but they couldnt get it to work, any chance of the same code? Oct 31 09:08:01 morning Oct 31 09:08:37 someone know why CIA-4 does not announce changes? Oct 31 09:08:41 hi CoreDump|home Oct 31 09:08:57 * XorA blames mickey|lunch Oct 31 09:11:11 his long lunches... Oct 31 09:11:31 hrw|work: well he sleeps for like 48 hours, so times a normal n Oct 31 09:11:38 lunch by same factor :-) Oct 31 09:11:57 XorA: The someone was JustinP Oct 31 09:12:40 RP: I thought it was, but coudlnt properly remeber and didnt want to blame some poor innocent :-) Oct 31 09:12:59 XorA: http://oe.reversefold.com/ looks promising Oct 31 09:14:27 XorA: http://oe.reversefold.com/sharpsl-rc.patch specifically Oct 31 09:14:35 RP: cheers found it Oct 31 09:16:05 RP: is it connected the same way for c7x0 devices? Oct 31 09:16:14 XorA: yes Oct 31 09:17:31 RP: I shall try that tonight then and see where I get Oct 31 09:17:41 XorA: You have an RC now? Oct 31 09:17:46 RP: yes Oct 31 09:17:59 * RP is envious :) Oct 31 09:18:06 RP: donation remeber Oct 31 09:18:23 XorA: I know :) Oct 31 09:18:47 RP: although from looks of it, you could use a standard sharp minidisk remote Oct 31 09:18:50 envious.. have to remember as another wordreplacement for jealous Oct 31 09:19:18 ~thesaurus jealous Oct 31 09:19:27 http://home.arcor.de/relei2004/zaurusfernb.html Oct 31 09:20:06 this page has howto about making own sharp remote fro zaurus. also list differencies between RC1 and RC2 Oct 31 09:20:21 hrw|work: sorted Oct 31 09:20:50 ? Oct 31 09:21:17 hrw|work: slang for "perfect, just what I needed" Oct 31 09:25:49 k Oct 31 09:41:45 hmm.. I need to find where I have fixed devshell.bb and push it Oct 31 09:42:26 I should merge the devshell task into OE... Oct 31 09:42:48 I'll fix the one which is Oct 31 09:44:17 NOTE: package devshell-1.0-r2: task do_build: completed Oct 31 09:46:34 CIA-4: 11:03 hrw@work:addons$ mtn commit . -m"devshell: do not try to package but deploy it" Oct 31 09:47:19 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r63744ff1... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ttf-dejavu: updated to 2.11 Oct 31 09:47:24 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r618dcdf0... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): qpf-dejavu: dropped. OPIE use TrueType fonts by default Oct 31 09:47:30 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6557dd2e... 10/ (1 packages/addons/devshell.bb): devshell: do not try to package but deploy it Oct 31 09:52:43 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rfc08b5fb... 10/ (1 classes/devshell.bbclass): Add devshell.bbclass (from poky). Requires bitbake trunk. Use as 'bitbake target -c devshell' Oct 31 09:53:15 hrw|work: You might be interested in the last commit Oct 31 09:53:49 ok Oct 31 09:56:02 RP: will check it one day - for now I use 1.6 Oct 31 09:56:28 hrw|work: I will patch 1.6 to work with it. Its been on my todo list for a while :) Oct 31 09:59:37 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.6 * r623 10/lib/bb/build.py: build.py: Add support for the interact flag, backported from trunk Oct 31 10:00:58 hi :) Oct 31 10:01:05 hi zecke Oct 31 10:01:22 RP: time for a release? do you want to be added as admin as well? Oct 31 10:01:24 hi zecke Oct 31 10:01:54 zecke: I've added the two things I think we needed in the next bitbake 1.6 release, so yes, its time :) Oct 31 10:02:12 zecke: I'm happy enough to be an admin although I don't know the release process :) Oct 31 10:02:23 hmm I'm too hungry ATM to do a release Oct 31 10:02:33 so this has to wait until tomorrow morning :) Oct 31 10:02:43 zecke: fair enough :) Oct 31 10:03:17 zecke: The changelog is out of date :-( Oct 31 10:03:27 RP, zecke: post announce to openembedded-announce after release Oct 31 10:04:35 hrw|work: another mailinglist? :} Oct 31 10:04:48 RP: welcome to the BitBake Admin club :) Oct 31 10:05:13 RP: now the BitBake consortium consists out of 2:1 majority of O-Hand vs. Community :) Oct 31 10:05:45 zecke: Scary :) Oct 31 10:05:53 I was dropped from bitbake? Oct 31 10:06:13 zecke: another Oct 31 10:06:13 hrw|work: no, you are not an admin though :) Oct 31 10:06:25 * RP ponders the OH world domination plan Oct 31 10:06:27 zecke: never wanted to be one Oct 31 10:06:48 zecke: but I remember times when I pestered kergoth to give you admin rights ;D Oct 31 10:07:14 hehe, and now I'm sharing my rights :) Oct 31 10:07:38 Hi all! Oct 31 10:07:38 re TEmiil Oct 31 10:07:38 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.6 * r624 10/ChangeLog: Add some missing entries to the Changelog Oct 31 10:07:38 RP, zecke: we *need* openembedded-private ml.... Oct 31 10:07:46 What does inherit += " multimachine" ? Oct 31 10:07:57 Can anyone think what else we did since 1.6.0? Oct 31 10:08:17 TEmiil: did you check the documentation? Oct 31 10:08:21 I have got information about donating nice machine for OE (buildpower and sources.oe.org) Oct 31 10:08:23 RP: I know what I did (void) Oct 31 10:08:25 zecke: yes, I think so... but I will search again... Oct 31 10:08:51 hrw|work: yeah, I need machines to host lxr and such :) Oct 31 10:09:02 zecke: I've added the three things I did recently. I get the feeling there was a nasty bug in the 1.6.0 release we fixed though? Oct 31 10:09:19 RP: a print was removed Oct 31 10:09:49 RP: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/file/branches/bitbake-1.6/ Oct 31 10:10:52 zecke: useful :) Oct 31 10:11:09 I KNOW :) Oct 31 10:11:31 RP: Have you seen how nicely bonsai integrates with the o-hand bugzilla? Oct 31 10:11:36 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.6 * r625 10/ChangeLog: Add missing Changelog entry Oct 31 10:12:04 zecke: I haven't although I should look at that :) Oct 31 10:12:56 zecke: I checked user manual again and used wiki search but I didn't find any usefull description about multimachine Oct 31 10:13:35 TEmiil: okay. It is a bitbake class multimachine.bbclass Oct 31 10:13:35 hrw|work: Sounds like a nice offer - we need to coordinate things like this better Oct 31 10:14:36 TEmiil: it helps building OE for more than one machine :) Oct 31 10:14:43 TEmiil: e.g. OpenZaurus for different machines Oct 31 10:15:13 TEmiil: multimachine allow to use one builddir for multi machines - nevermind that they are 2.4 or 2.6 based etc Oct 31 10:15:21 zecke: ok, so it makes no sense to use it with only one machine, right? Oct 31 10:15:33 TEmiil: no need to use Oct 31 10:15:41 TEmiil: but also no hurt if used Oct 31 10:15:49 TEmiil: It shouldn't actually cause any problems if you use it Oct 31 10:16:18 hrw|work, zecke, RP: Ok, thanks a lot Oct 31 10:16:42 what kind of bug information would make sense for Tinderbox? Oct 31 10:16:46 Closed Bugs? New Bugs? Oct 31 10:18:53 zecke: They would both appear to have useful information Oct 31 10:19:53 * zecke writes a Bugzilla Model for his tinderbox :) Oct 31 10:20:22 RP: what is the status of o-hand in regard to QA and QA architecture? Oct 31 10:21:17 * CoreDump|home laughs evily as he found the correct rsync magic for his feeds Oct 31 10:21:22 zecke: Its something we need to look at ASAP. I suspect its on mallum's / my aganda very soon Oct 31 10:22:01 RP: it still would be nice if we could coordinate or at least exchange our needs :) Oct 31 10:22:41 zecke: We've not discussed it much yet and I do plan to try and discuss things with you :) Oct 31 10:23:43 :) Oct 31 10:24:12 RP: for the stuff I'm doing here I need this bonsai/tbox/bugs since yesterday :) Oct 31 10:26:32 zecke: I've been looking at the output from a poky build and the amount of "errors" reported was concerning. I was considering it automatically filing bugs if it found things like unpackaged files :} Oct 31 10:29:08 hrw|work: package linux-input also uses cvs1.sourceforge.net (I updated this morning) Oct 31 10:41:48 TEmiil: will push fix Oct 31 10:43:23 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r072508ff... 10/ (1 packages/linux-input/linux-input_cvs.bb): linux-input: fixed SRC_URI Oct 31 10:52:31 <_law_> hmm dbus-glib doesnt build http://rafb.net/paste/results/D7cdh921.html Oct 31 10:53:50 _law_: rebuild dbus itself? Oct 31 10:54:02 _law_: try to find the missing file Oct 31 10:58:10 the failure is because dbus-glib need 0.94, finds 0.92 and configure misbehaves Oct 31 10:58:22 I was looking yesterday, but I have paid work to do Oct 31 11:00:27 someone with pci equipped OE target here? Oct 31 11:02:19 hrw|work: The cmx270 has a PCI slot... Oct 31 11:02:43 I have update for pciutils Oct 31 11:02:46 hello all Oct 31 11:02:56 hi likewise Oct 31 11:03:02 hrw|work: hi Oct 31 11:03:31 <_law_> XorA, i have updated to fc6 could this also be a problem? Oct 31 11:03:48 I updated to latest OE mtn, I run into this: "NOTE: Resolving missing task queue dependencies Oct 31 11:03:49 ERROR: No providers of runtime build target busybox" Oct 31 11:03:52 _law_: no, I saw the problem yesterday Oct 31 11:04:16 _law_: I think its just saomeone added 0.94 and 0.72 but for some reason the right versions arent built at right time Oct 31 11:04:30 _law_: could be a PREFERREN_VERSION thing or something Oct 31 11:04:36 _law_: but I dont have time to look Oct 31 11:07:37 zecke: did you ever check out buildbot.sf.net ? Oct 31 11:08:30 mallum: yes, my believe it works good if you build the same configuration on different systems Oct 31 11:08:49 mallum: but having a central scheduler to start and reschedule builds for something like OE it will not scale/work :) Oct 31 11:11:46 zecke|food: did you read CELF testlab wiki? Oct 31 11:12:07 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r68a537cf... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): pciutils: added 2.2.4 Oct 31 11:14:24 <_law_> zecke|food, tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus-shared.h is available Oct 31 11:14:53 <_law_> perhaps the dbus-1.0 dir is the problem? Oct 31 11:24:32 _law_: read what I said Oct 31 11:25:02 _law_: check you log_do.configure and see if it says 0.94 required 0.92 found Oct 31 11:31:01 <_law_> XorA, checking for DBUS... Requested 'dbus-1 >= 0.94' but version of dbus is 0.92 Oct 31 11:33:21 _law_: thats the problem, that makes configure misbehave and pass wrong CFLAGS Oct 31 11:33:45 _law_: so find out why dbus_0.94 didnt build and all should be rosy Oct 31 11:35:05 <_law_> XorA, okay Oct 31 11:35:08 <_law_> XorA, thanks Oct 31 11:39:34 my guess is PREFFERRED_VSERION set Oct 31 11:46:03 hrw|work: Is it ok to tell you these things here or should I better create bug reports? Oct 31 11:49:34 hrw|work: btw, font-util-native-X11R7.1-1.0.1 fails fetch because uri release/X11R7.0/.../font-util-X11R7.1...tar.gz doesn't exist. It must be release/X11R7.1/... Oct 31 11:58:39 <_law_> XorA, DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" in the .bb file Oct 31 12:01:44 _law_: that'll do it Oct 31 12:01:45 TEmiil: report bugs Oct 31 12:02:09 TEmiil: and submit patches Oct 31 12:03:21 mickeyl: not hungry anymore? Oct 31 12:03:24 hi mickeyl Oct 31 12:07:32 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/10/31/30-months-of-openembedded-and-me/ Oct 31 12:09:09 ~hail kdiff3 Oct 31 12:09:10 * ibot bows down to kdiff3 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 31 12:13:06 good morning all Oct 31 12:13:26 morning mr. koen Oct 31 12:13:38 hey VoodooZ_ Oct 31 12:13:56 What are you going fix today? :) Oct 31 12:14:17 mostly the timestamps on the pictures I tool Oct 31 12:14:18 took* Oct 31 12:14:34 sounds way too easy for a guy like you! ;-) Oct 31 12:16:21 VoodooZ_: 'bitbake fix timestamps on the pictures' do the trick with proper metadata Oct 31 12:16:47 hmm.. we have leet time now Oct 31 12:16:53 31 13:37 < hrw|work> hmm.. we have leet time now Oct 31 12:17:06 wow. ok. Now it sounds a bit more involving. :) Oct 31 12:19:18 zecke: does bugs.oe.work talk xmlrpc to bonsai now? Oct 31 12:19:29 koen: no :) Oct 31 12:19:33 no, no, no :) Oct 31 12:19:58 * VoodooZ_ aims to get slugos to work with glibc2.5 using angstrom as a reference in this century Oct 31 12:20:31 VoodooZ_: sure you want EABI? Oct 31 12:21:27 _law_: still around? Oct 31 12:22:15 <_law_> zecke, here Oct 31 12:24:02 _law_: solved your dbus issue? Oct 31 12:24:19 <_law_> zecke, not yet Oct 31 12:25:23 _law_: my two cents are the following Oct 31 12:25:36 _law_: check the .pc file of dbus-1.0 to see where it points Oct 31 12:25:48 _law_: check if dbus-glib has dbus-1 in the includepath Oct 31 12:26:06 _law_: check config.log if dbus-glib looked for dbus (using pkgconfig) Oct 31 12:30:02 when building glibc-2.5, I get a few warnings about Multiple libraries at the do_package stage... Oct 31 12:30:06 ( http://rafb.net/paste/results/WOU5Wa36.html ) Oct 31 12:30:22 what causes this, and should I be worried? Oct 31 12:30:37 tkp: your house is going to explode :-) Oct 31 12:30:39 what is LEAD_SONAME spposed to be defined as? Oct 31 12:30:47 XorA: ah, sh|t! Oct 31 12:30:49 tkp: check recent mails from Marcin to the mailinglist(s) Oct 31 12:31:56 zecke: well, it Oct 31 12:32:05 it's not EABI I want. It's NPTL Oct 31 12:32:42 I'd just started cleaning up LEAD_SONAME in poky too :) Oct 31 12:32:44 I have to rewrite my threaded code the "right" way and I'd rather do it for NPTL than the kludgy pthreads way Oct 31 12:33:03 zecke: is there an online list archive somewhere? Oct 31 12:33:25 tkp: yes Oct 31 12:33:37 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel Oct 31 12:33:48 sure there is Oct 31 12:34:07 hrw|work: thanks Oct 31 12:34:14 this is what I really love about Free Software Oct 31 12:42:24 I want to write things the write way but most threading tutorials refer to the old pthreads. Oct 31 12:44:15 s/write way/right way/ Oct 31 12:44:17 hehehe Oct 31 12:47:40 If I was to mention OE on a resume how would you describe the system as a whole in a few words? Oct 31 12:47:55 linux distro maker doesn't right. Oct 31 12:48:21 deterministic system to create and package software Oct 31 12:48:42 sounds nice. Oct 31 12:52:45 I usually call it 'buildsystem for building whole distributions' Oct 31 12:55:50 hrw|work: a good linux IDE? Oct 31 12:57:43 XorA: gvim? Oct 31 12:58:33 hrw|work: I suppose Ill have to figure out all this split window stuff thats new in vim :-) Oct 31 12:59:10 XorA: split windows in vim are not new Oct 31 12:59:30 XorA: if you used CygnusEd on amiga you should not have problems with split windows ;D Oct 31 12:59:51 hrw|work: I used vim on amiga Oct 31 13:00:03 hrw|work: and before that microemacs Oct 31 13:00:14 XorA: I did not - amigaos lacked good terminal Oct 31 13:00:28 XorA: CON: even with KingCON was awful Oct 31 13:00:52 hrw|work: I used a curses port used to open fullscreen term with full vtXXX (dont remeber which) Oct 31 13:04:31 <_law_> zecke build dbus-0.94 does the job Oct 31 13:04:43 <_law_> s/build/building Oct 31 13:07:31 _law_: so you decided not to listen to my two cents? Oct 31 13:08:32 or what dbus 0.94 did you use before? Oct 31 13:09:44 small error in gcc4-build-sdk.inc: Oct 31 13:10:11 it tries to apply the patch '602-sdk-libstdc++-includes.patch' twice Oct 31 13:10:16 that is bad :) Oct 31 13:10:43 or rather... it is already applied by gcc_4.1.1.bb Oct 31 13:10:54 <_law_> zecke, i used dbus 0.92 before Oct 31 13:11:02 which is 'require'd by cc-cross-sdk_4.1.1.bb Oct 31 13:11:25 and then it's applied again by gcc4-build-sdk.inc Oct 31 13:11:39 _law_: was that the default dbus? Oct 31 13:11:48 <_law_> zecke, yes Oct 31 13:12:52 ciao :) Oct 31 13:13:38 http://rafb.net/paste/results/bsvcSH68.html Oct 31 13:16:18 i've a look at alsa support in OE Oct 31 13:16:51 Genesis: which kind of 'alsa support'? Oct 31 13:17:05 i'd like to compile alsa driver for my board Oct 31 13:17:12 it's a wilson 8731 Oct 31 13:17:42 the only alsa driver recipe is alsa-driver_0.9.6-hh4c.bb Oct 31 13:17:44 wm8731? Oct 31 13:17:48 yeap Oct 31 13:17:52 wm8731S Oct 31 13:17:55 Genesis: look at ASoC Oct 31 13:18:09 Genesis: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/alsa/info.html Oct 31 13:18:17 ibot: asoc Oct 31 13:18:56 the gentoo way is good Oct 31 13:19:02 i've a look oki Oct 31 13:19:04 Genesis: sharp zaurus c7x0 use wm8731 and Liam, RP, XorA are working on it Oct 31 13:19:20 sounds good Oct 31 13:19:33 Genesis: gentoo? Oct 31 13:19:39 i've an oSS driver eventually Oct 31 13:19:50 Genesis: oss is deprecated Oct 31 13:19:53 i know Oct 31 13:20:03 that could help i said Oct 31 13:20:24 hrw|work, : i'm manager of studiolibre.org Oct 31 13:21:00 french board for opensource audio software: ) Oct 31 13:21:11 Genesis: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/archive/corgi_snd-r14.patch Oct 31 13:21:31 oki Oct 31 13:21:56 on gentoo we have a variable ALSA_CARDS in the make.conf Oct 31 13:22:14 i think we could add this in the machine conf Oct 31 13:22:30 and make a recipe for alsa , that take cares of it for the --with-card Oct 31 13:22:48 Genesis: within a month there will be ASoC for MX21 wm8731 Oct 31 13:23:15 oki :) Oct 31 13:23:44 Genesis: but feel free to have a go, Im sure lrg will appreiate an already done mx21-pcm.c and board driver Oct 31 13:23:45 that doesnt change what i said Oct 31 13:24:31 we should make a better recipe for alsa :) Oct 31 13:24:46 not only for us and the wm8731 :-) Oct 31 13:25:31 XorA, : it's an alsa driver , no code in kernel , isn't it ? Oct 31 13:26:07 Genesis: it will enter kernel in I think 2.6.21 Oct 31 13:26:24 Genesis: it has entered ALSA officially Oct 31 13:26:35 XorA, : yes because alsa is commited in the kernel Oct 31 13:27:03 but i've an old kernel , so i prefer the alsa-driver beside the kernel :) Oct 31 13:27:13 XorA: Hopefully 2.6.20? Oct 31 13:27:36 RP: erm, is that the next one, I forget Oct 31 13:27:52 2.6.19 is in -rc Oct 31 13:28:10 RP: ah yeah, I suffer from number madness these days Oct 31 13:28:28 XorA, : what is the status of your driver ? Oct 31 13:28:37 XorA: I was just wondering if you knew something I didn't ;-) Oct 31 13:28:48 RP: I know nothing!!!!! Oct 31 13:29:03 Genesis: I dont work on mx21 lrg does Oct 31 13:29:32 oki oki Oct 31 13:29:33 Genesis: but ASoC isnt a "driver" the codec drivers are already there, you just need the mx21 glue Oct 31 13:29:42 sure Oct 31 13:29:53 I2S and other stuff i suppose Oct 31 13:30:02 ASoC seperates codec from platform, so you need to make I2S and DMA Oct 31 13:33:18 I'm using tslib with my touchscreen, all works great except anytime I load/exit a program I always have to touch the screen for the program to load and or exit. This seems like some sort of blocking issue but I'm not sure. I just wondered if anyone else has had this issue. Oct 31 13:34:01 programs being: ts_calibrate and ts_test.. I also have added support to directfb for tslib and it is doing the same thing :-/ Oct 31 13:38:08 Gerrath: Sounds like your kernel driver isn't sending the sync after the coords Oct 31 13:41:22 RP, I pretty much copied the ucb1400 kernel module from the OE gumstix kernel. I'm looking at it right now and there are input_sync() function calls at the end of ts_evt_add and ts_event_release. Is that what your refering to? Oct 31 13:42:10 Gerrath: Yes, as long as they're there, it should work. It must be something else Oct 31 13:42:32 Gerrath: FWIW, I don't see that problem on other devices Oct 31 13:43:20 RP, do you have a known working (with tslib) touchscreen kernel driver that I could compare to this one? Oct 31 13:43:58 Gerrath: corgi_ts in mainline Oct 31 13:44:17 RP, ok thanks, I will check it out. Oct 31 13:46:28 morning Oct 31 13:50:15 yo chouimat Oct 31 14:02:11 http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/alsa/info.html good documentation , greets RP :) Oct 31 14:03:41 remember there is an alsa wiki :) Oct 31 14:06:40 RP, I'm not using a preemtive kernel, I'm assuming that could not be causing my problem.. Oct 31 14:09:22 Genesis: Now its into ALSA, we could probably move that :) Oct 31 14:09:40 Gerrath: I use preemtive kernels but I don't see how that would change anything Oct 31 14:19:17 what would be a good package to build to test my alsa system on the OSK? Oct 31 14:21:28 Crofton, : why not mplayer ? Oct 31 14:24:17 I need it to run on an embedded device? Oct 31 14:24:25 32M RAM? Oct 31 14:24:37 no video Oct 31 14:25:09 a really simple integer mp3 player, or even simpler would be fine Oct 31 14:25:11 aplay Oct 31 14:25:22 it will play .wav Oct 31 14:25:26 ok Oct 31 14:25:36 alsa-utils-aplay Oct 31 14:25:57 thanks Oct 31 14:26:04 seems I have already built it even :) Oct 31 14:28:16 good XorA , i dont find it in OE because i thoufht "alsaplayer" Oct 31 14:28:34 Crofton, : mplayer dont need video device to play video Oct 31 14:28:45 Crofton: -vo null Oct 31 14:28:52 -vo libcaca Oct 31 14:28:54 :x Oct 31 14:29:18 aplay is the best for debugging as it actually tells you what went wrong Oct 31 14:29:25 looks like I have aplay in my ipks Oct 31 14:29:40 and aplay /dev/zero works Oct 31 14:30:26 but no sound Oct 31 14:30:34 maybe aplay /dev/random :) Oct 31 14:30:41 Crofton: that'd do it Oct 31 14:30:45 Mmm, white noise Oct 31 14:30:52 You might want to use urandom though.. Oct 31 14:31:09 right now I want to see if anythign happens Oct 31 14:31:59 cheaper will be aplay /dev/urandom Oct 31 14:33:11 XorA, -r, --rate=# Oct 31 14:33:12 Sampling rate in Hertz. The default rate is 8000 Hertz. Oct 31 14:33:17 ( man aplay ) Oct 31 14:33:21 oops Crofton Oct 31 14:34:16 what does alsa-utils-speakertest do? Oct 31 14:34:48 Crofton: crash atm - its packaging is broken... Oct 31 14:35:04 bummer :) Oct 31 14:35:26 * RP was fixing it in poky but I don't think I pushed it yet Oct 31 14:36:26 well aplay /dev/zero didn't crash .... Oct 31 14:36:31 need to find some speakers Oct 31 14:43:42 what type of preemption is advised on SoC ? Oct 31 14:44:30 no preemtion ? Oct 31 14:49:19 Gerrath: preemtion should be fine Oct 31 14:49:59 oki , i'll check it , i'm using anticipatory for scheduling , perharps i should use CQF Oct 31 14:50:05 aplay on the OSK makes a hissing sound, excellent! Oct 31 14:52:08 =) Oct 31 14:52:23 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rbc4434df... 10/ (14 files in 6 dirs): linux-openzaurus: Recover from the hx2000 rename, update ASoC in 2.6.17 to 0.12, merge defconfigs for qemuarm and qemux86 from poky, add vesa patch for qemux86. Oct 31 14:54:44 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rdf33371d... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17.bb): linux-oz-2.6: Add missing hx2000 rename Oct 31 14:58:03 cfq is default in 2.6 now Oct 31 14:58:27 cfq? Oct 31 15:00:00 31 16:11 < Genesis> oki , i'll check it , i'm using anticipatory for scheduling , perharps i should use CQF Oct 31 15:02:16 oki i use CFQ :) Oct 31 15:03:36 RP. thanks. Oct 31 15:05:04 hi CosmicPenguin hvontres|poodle Oct 31 15:07:53 hey hrw|work :) Oct 31 15:08:03 hi hrw|work hvontres|poodle CosmicPenguin Oct 31 15:08:13 hi Oct 31 15:08:16 * hvontres|poodle needs some coffee Oct 31 15:09:03 chouimat: waked up? hi Oct 31 15:09:47 * hvontres|poodle got some...ahhh Oct 31 15:11:03 hrw|work: no was playing some fps game ... needed it after the phone call I got after login in :( Oct 31 15:11:56 chouimat: again work called? Oct 31 15:12:30 hrw|work: yup and I told the guy I was unavailable today ... other contract to do ... need food Oct 31 15:13:28 hrw|work, the 2.6.18 omap kernel seems to work with alsa, at least playing /dev/urandom :) Oct 31 15:14:52 chouimat : so how are the Virgin Mary's hardware designs today? :) Oct 31 15:15:58 hrw|work: yesterday was hell ... I have to build a parser for thing like this [1222] 12 2 read 12 345 v ... the '12' and '2' are both optional ... and I'm still not sure that the use of flex and bison is the right thing to do (or mostly will be able to do it) but since I have no choice ... and every time I try to explain that some language can't be parser by bison I get for answer come on it's simplier than sql ... the guy knows nothing about Oct 31 15:15:58 programming and the Holy Consultant (Virgin Mary) always over rule me ... so next time I might say to him to go fsck himself and ask the Holy Consultant to do it :) Oct 31 15:16:02 hvontres|poodle: ^^^^ Oct 31 15:17:06 chouimat, :( Oct 31 15:17:24 i would make a generator of code with flex/bison Oct 31 15:17:44 seems to be harder Oct 31 15:19:03 Genesis: you nearly an infinit lookahead to be able to guest what '12' and '2' mean since they depend from their position from the sequence number [] and the command Oct 31 15:31:32 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8cfd2f59... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-oz-2.6: Add missing patch. Oct 31 15:33:13 RP, any suggestions on what I can try next. I found very simular patches for the ucb1400 ts support on the arm-linux site and compared them to the the one (gumstix patch) that I'm using and they are almost identical. Oct 31 15:34:02 ibot: botmail to XorA the samsung UARTS will work now w/ udev :D Oct 31 15:35:18 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd15257c6... 10/ (19 files in 7 dirs): Oct 31 15:35:18 udev: fix udev rule for SAMSUNG UARTS (stupid missing ',' in rule!) Oct 31 15:35:18 udev: remove 084 and 089, but keep 092 which seems to be pretty solid Oct 31 15:35:24 Gerrath: You'll just have to debug it - see if it is stopping in tslib and where (when reading from the input event device file)? If it is stopping there, see what its waiting for and maybe look at the kernel driver with that in mind Oct 31 15:35:56 mickeyl: 092 seems pretty good :) Oct 31 15:36:03 RP: yeah. it's really solid. Oct 31 15:36:34 i'll stick with it for quite some time Oct 31 15:36:41 mickeyl: I axed a load of udev versions recently too. We'll have to be careful soon though as only a limited number of kernels are being supported from now on... Oct 31 15:37:28 *nod*. we should leave 092 as the lowest Oct 31 15:37:49 mickeyl: agreed. We should perhaps even comment the file as such :) Oct 31 15:38:08 RP: a good idea, frankly. we could mark some files as STICKY Oct 31 15:38:28 e.g. glib 2.6.10 Oct 31 15:38:40 because although newer ones are available, they're the last for the 2.6 ABI Oct 31 15:38:56 API, even Oct 31 15:39:01 Genesis: anyway I won't work on this today ... I have another contract to do so ... which is simple and will pay a lot of money 2 or 3 days of work max Oct 31 15:39:05 mickeyl: newer glib is incompatible? Oct 31 15:39:11 sorry Oct 31 15:39:11 mickeyl: true Oct 31 15:39:11 gtk Oct 31 15:39:35 I thought gtk ABI stayed until 2.8 Oct 31 15:39:47 its stuck at 2.4.0 until 2.10.X made it 2.10 Oct 31 15:40:02 yeah, don't nail me on the details Oct 31 15:40:05 The performance degraded in 2.8, the ABI changed in 2.10 Oct 31 15:40:07 mickeyl: :-) Oct 31 15:42:00 mickeyl: I updated bitbake so it will at least ignore versions fields in DEPENDS. I also backported that into bitbake 1.6.1. The plan is to require bitbake 1.6.1, then we can at least start updating the metadata in OE Oct 31 15:42:31 RP: excellent. thanks for that. it will be a great enhancement to our metadata when we start adding that Oct 31 15:42:36 mickeyl: The stage is then set for proper support in bitbake in due course Oct 31 15:43:10 RP: btw., I'm really really sorry that I couldn't send you ncurses stuff yet... We're having a demo next week and I'm just under 200% load. Oct 31 15:43:17 RP: will do it after the demo Oct 31 15:43:47 mickeyl: The only class it will break with versioned DEPENDS is gettext.bbclass which needs some python magic, its using maps so I don't dare touch it ;-) Oct 31 15:44:00 RP: hehe, i can take a look at that Oct 31 15:44:06 functional programming rocks Oct 31 15:44:30 mickeyl: np, I'm also under load in various ways too so probably wouldn't have had a chance to do anything with it yet Oct 31 15:51:24 mickeyl: you there ? Oct 31 15:52:14 dfoley|home: yeah Oct 31 15:52:41 mickeyl: today ok for phone ? Oct 31 15:53:25 dfoley|home: sounds good. let's say in 30 minutes? I'll /msg you my phone number Oct 31 15:56:45 dfoley|home: got it? Oct 31 15:57:17 mickeyl: yes, I have to drive my daugher to school. so in about 1 Hr. I'm actually going to call from home. Oct 31 15:58:01 dfoley|home: ok, excellent. Oct 31 16:00:15 zecke2, remember the svn repo I made of the OE meta data? Oct 31 16:00:59 it still gets hits .... Oct 31 16:03:46 hey all Oct 31 16:09:41 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra11e7e98... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_cvs.bb): Oct 31 16:09:41 linux-handhelds-2.6 cvs: CVS HEAD is -hh2 now. Oct 31 16:09:41 * Closes #1540. Oct 31 16:11:09 Hi! Oct 31 16:11:32 koen: Would need to update PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6_htcuniversal in agstrom.conf to 2.6.17-hh2 Oct 31 16:18:52 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Oct 31 16:27:10 a+ Oct 31 16:32:36 RP, well I have it narrowed down to the ts_close() function call, so I guess now I will look at the kernel module and figure out why it has issues closing.. Oct 31 16:39:22 Gerrath: Strange as the input layer should deal with the device close, not the ts driver... :-/ Oct 31 16:40:39 RP, I can strace df_input and see it open everything but everytime it tries to do a ts_close() it freezes until I touch the screen. Oct 31 16:41:27 RP, tslib works great while its running :-) Oct 31 16:53:39 cu Oct 31 17:44:56 RP, the problem is in the kernel module close function and specifically is a kthread_stop() function call.. I'm not sure what that function does.. time for grep'ing :-) Oct 31 18:00:20 re Oct 31 18:03:19 hey koen Oct 31 18:04:01 hey mreimer Oct 31 18:09:25 koen_: Hi! Oct 31 18:09:34 koen_: Would need to update PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6_htcuniversal in agstrom.conf to 2.6.17-hh2 Oct 31 18:10:20 mreimer, Hi, did you see that patch submitted to support resume with native wm2005 hx4700 bootloader? Oct 31 18:10:38 Hi Paul. Yes, I did. I'll commit something like it soon Oct 31 18:11:23 psokolovsky_: I also found that hx4700 resumes at 416MHz instead of 624MHz. I'm working on a patch for that. I thought it felt kind of slow Oct 31 18:11:32 psokolovsky_: at least, with the stock bootloader it does Oct 31 18:11:47 wasn't there a cpufreq patch for pxa27x somwhere some time ago? Oct 31 18:12:10 mreimer, wonderful! Oct 31 18:12:18 pH5: the current cpu-pxa.c has support for pxa27x. enabling cpufreq does work around the problem Oct 31 18:12:48 ah, cool. Oct 31 18:13:13 pH5: I think bd2 also has some patches to regulate the voltage too, for more power savings Oct 31 18:16:22 iirc cpu-freq didn't work reliably when I tested it on the hx and h2200 Oct 31 18:16:51 psokolovsky_: I can't test a new kernel right now (300km aways from toys), but feel free to move the kernel version if people have tested it Oct 31 18:18:00 koen, ok, I'll re-adk once again. it needs to be done anyway, as CVS HEAD now is -hh2, so it's not possible to build -hh1+cvsXXX anyway (that's what universal has in PREF_VER) Oct 31 18:18:41 koen: that's a pity. my batteries would love cpu-freq + voltage regulation. Oct 31 18:23:06 pH5: iirc it screws up the ts during freq changes Oct 31 18:23:15 pH5: but it's been a while since I tested Oct 31 18:23:29 pH5: maybe the new clock-framework on LAK will help Oct 31 18:24:25 Hello Oct 31 18:27:08 hi sirfred Oct 31 18:27:27 hey sirfred Oct 31 18:58:18 hey dfoley Oct 31 18:59:57 koen|away: yes Oct 31 19:02:13 RP, I figured it out.. thanks for the help. The problem was the thread kill doesn't occure until the next time the thread wakes up, so all I needed to do was set a flag and wake the thread, the thread then wakes, sees the flag signaling it not to sleep again, so when it exits I can call the kthread_kill and it dies nicely. I just tested it and it works great, thanks again :-) Oct 31 19:05:04 man, when the weather dude said 'rain' he actually meant 'RAIN' Oct 31 19:07:52 * mrz80 is back (gone 02:49:02) Oct 31 19:10:10 RP: how well does the poky apt/dpkg stuff work? Oct 31 19:10:20 RP: is it worthwhile to merge it? Oct 31 19:12:03 * koen stabs EDGE Oct 31 19:24:29 zecke2: I ... ehm... will recreate the scripts soon(TM) Oct 31 19:25:19 anyone know offhand where to find setterm in OE? Oct 31 19:25:38 cbrake: ncurses? Oct 31 19:26:22 ignore that Oct 31 19:26:25 util-linux :) Oct 31 19:26:34 http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=setterm&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 Oct 31 19:31:05 koen|gprs: util-linux works -- Thanks! Oct 31 20:04:10 It's quite here today. Havent seen lesser activity in this channel before. Oct 31 20:04:41 looks like everyone is busy breaking stuff Oct 31 20:04:53 Before you came in, they decided that OE is perfect, so everybody left to do something else Oct 31 20:05:10 hehe Oct 31 20:05:12 :-) Oct 31 20:05:46 But actually, OE has become more stable the last half year. Oct 31 20:07:57 I can build working OSK images with it Oct 31 20:22:12 Crofton: no, that is just our jedi tricks Oct 31 20:23:17 How is measuring going? Oct 31 20:25:17 9:45 pm, so I'm watching tv :) Oct 31 20:25:23 doh Oct 31 20:25:54 First I assume you all are native English speakers, now I forget about time zones Oct 31 20:30:33 But, I do have a patch for glic-2.5 that should allow it to work for the old and new ABI's. Oct 31 20:31:30 cool Oct 31 20:32:32 I need to test for both tool chains Oct 31 20:32:53 testing is overrated Oct 31 20:33:51 ok, I'll exract the patch and push :) Oct 31 20:34:08 :p Oct 31 20:37:10 evening Oct 31 20:38:13 hey hrw Oct 31 20:41:38 hey hrw & pH5 Oct 31 20:58:16 Crofton: nice work. Oct 31 20:58:52 * VoodooZ wonders if this would simplify the slugos modification. Oct 31 21:02:53 basically, I got this from the libc-ports list Oct 31 21:03:06 and it should allow glibc to compile for either ABI Oct 31 21:03:32 I am building for EABI, then I will build old-abi and verify dropbear for each Oct 31 21:08:38 PCMCIA: Oct 31 21:08:38 People Oct 31 21:08:38 Cant Oct 31 21:08:38 Memorize Oct 31 21:08:38 Complicate Oct 31 21:08:40 Industrial Oct 31 21:08:43 Abbreviations Oct 31 21:08:45 jez.. rox Oct 31 21:09:00 old but funny still Oct 31 21:09:55 Plastic Connectors May Crack If Adjusted Oct 31 21:10:16 Crofton: good as it might simplify our modifications of slugos distro. Oct 31 21:11:02 although we still have the "no such provider" issue so I'm unsure. Oct 31 21:11:17 XorA|gone: I'm not leet, more half, more like 668.5 :D Oct 31 21:11:30 * XorA|gone chuckles Oct 31 21:12:23 where the hell is my diskspace Oct 31 21:13:00 XorA|gone, sorry man, I used it for my pron collection Oct 31 21:13:35 Kristoffer: I found it, 18G of mp3's Oct 31 21:13:52 XorA|gone, lol :D Oct 31 21:14:06 must delete some of them Oct 31 21:17:11 we NEED PR Oct 31 21:17:23 p0rn? Oct 31 21:17:40 anyone have any OE images I could use on a poster? Oct 31 21:17:47 Crofton: contrib/oe.svg Oct 31 21:17:53 ah Oct 31 21:18:09 Crofton: its there for ages Oct 31 21:21:03 XorA|gone: I'm discussing with one of companies now and I got infos why they do not support OZ in same way as other distros.. Oct 31 21:36:37 hrw, release today :D finally Oct 31 21:37:02 Kristoffer: which monster give name for release? Oct 31 21:37:12 hrw, eh..donkey Oct 31 21:37:21 hrw, shrek theme Oct 31 21:37:26 Shrek, Donkey, then Fiona? Oct 31 21:37:41 mongo for 7xx release Oct 31 21:37:43 Kristoffer: so you are like Debian but other story Oct 31 21:37:51 hrw, yeah :D Oct 31 21:38:26 Kristoffer: you are in better situation - shrek 3, shrek 4 are rumoured already Oct 31 21:38:34 toystory had only 3 parts Oct 31 21:38:53 hrw, haha never thought of that. Good point. Oct 31 21:49:03 hrw: but there are alien #1, #2 #3 ........ for toystory Oct 31 21:50:09 openssl Oct 31 21:51:37 ...does not compile when using a prebuilt toolchain Oct 31 21:52:26 the reason being this line in openssl.inc: export EX_LIBS = "-lgcc -ldl -L${STAGING_LIBDIR}" Oct 31 21:52:36 since it's looking for ldl in ${STAGING_LIBDIR} Oct 31 21:52:50 I changed the line to read: export EX_LIBS = "-lgcc -ldl ${TARGET_LDFLAGS} -L${STAGING_LIBDIR}" Oct 31 21:53:12 which got it to compile... not too sure if that's the best way to go about it, but it works Oct 31 21:56:12 infact, it's probably better written as: export EX_LIBS = "-lgcc -ldl ${TARGET_LDFLAGS}" since TARGET_LDFLAGS already contains STAGING_LIBDIR Oct 31 22:02:42 what is the best way to calibate a touchscreen for a device running X? Oct 31 22:03:04 cbrake: run xtscal? Oct 31 22:03:57 hrw: I'll give it a try. ts_calibrate is not giving me real good results, but I may also be fighting noise. Oct 31 22:04:44 cbrake: xtscal is probably same as ts_calibrate when it comes to lowlevel - hard work is done by tslib. Oct 31 22:05:10 hrw: nod, well probably time to look into tslib filtering ... Oct 31 22:05:18 cbrake: compare ts_print and ts_print_raw to see how noisy it is Oct 31 22:05:53 XorA|gone: ok, so is ts_print filtered and ts_print_raw unfiltered? Oct 31 22:06:16 cbrake: yes Oct 31 22:07:08 ugh. Oct 31 22:07:54 I didn't believe in dropbears, but now I've seen one :( Oct 31 22:07:54 up close and personal. Oct 31 22:07:54 (trust me, they're scary!) Oct 31 22:07:54 :-D Oct 31 22:07:54 raduga: so do akitas Oct 31 22:07:54 is dropbear a real thing Oct 31 22:08:17 hrw: the people at Sharp who name these things, are crazy Oct 31 22:08:28 XorA|gone: got my priv message? Oct 31 22:08:37 hrw: yes Oct 31 22:08:57 hrw: I am replying, maybe they get lost somewhere Oct 31 22:08:57 xora: well. The mythical dropbear, is supposedly a carnivorous koala, with huge teeth, that lives in eucalyptus trees Oct 31 22:09:01 raduga: cool Oct 31 22:09:03 XorA|gone: imagine borzoi with wifi... Oct 31 22:09:10 hrw: sweet Oct 31 22:09:19 and waits for unwary people to walk by under them, at which they will drop from the tree and land on their head, and bite them Oct 31 22:10:02 xora: however, some say the reason behind the myth of the dropbear is to discourage children from playing around eucalyptus trees-- because they really are dangerous Oct 31 22:10:21 and are liable to suddenly snap, and fall down on people, and kill them. Oct 31 22:10:38 raduga: I was just about to ask how eucalyptus trees kill people Oct 31 22:10:39 guys, i am about to brick my buffalo linkstation (mipsel) with openlink firmware. do you know any way to symlink/copy/cat/echo a libc.so back to its proper location using shell-builtins that don't call libc? Oct 31 22:10:45 I was walking back from the library a few moments ago, through a grove of Eucalyptus Oct 31 22:11:00 and suddenly a large branch broke off from the tree and crashed, and fell right in front of me Oct 31 22:11:08 * XorA|gone feels lucky to live in a coutry where trees stay up except in Hurricanes Oct 31 22:11:20 if I had stood a few meters away, I'd have been hurt. Maybe severely :( Oct 31 22:11:27 kfm82: I reflashed when had that problem Oct 31 22:11:36 :-( Oct 31 22:11:51 xora: there is no good reason for anyone to have a eucalyptus tree, unless they live in Australia Oct 31 22:11:56 and even then, no good reason. Oct 31 22:12:33 raduga: is it the same eucalyptus that clears noses? Oct 31 22:12:43 hrw, on what hardware? using fishy unstable ipks too? Oct 31 22:12:43 * XorA|gone is a plant dullard Oct 31 22:12:50 xora: they kill people because they are very brittle, and they have few branches that hang from very high up; and if the tree is weakened by disease Oct 31 22:12:56 branches frequently just snap off and fall Oct 31 22:13:13 most normal trees don't do this :/ Oct 31 22:13:21 kfm82: on zaurus with my own devbuild I managed to destroy libgcc Oct 31 22:13:32 xora: yes, the same tree Oct 31 22:13:37 the leaves are fragrant Oct 31 22:13:47 raduga: they have one use, but not in gardens then Oct 31 22:15:14 they're common where I live, because about a hundred years ago, people here were kinda stupid Oct 31 22:15:26 raduga: are you out in CA? Oct 31 22:15:35 (not that that's changed much since then) Oct 31 22:15:41 hvontres: yep Oct 31 22:16:17 raduga: Let's not forget to mention how eucalyptus trees can turn into cool torches :) Oct 31 22:16:46 raduga: which part? Oct 31 22:17:02 hvontres: I'm not familiar with that application of eucalyptus. Oct 31 22:17:22 I'm not surprised that they'd be great wildfire fuel, but my guess is that's probably more common (if anywhere) back in Australia Oct 31 22:17:35 out here, its rarely eucalyptus groves that catch fire Oct 31 22:17:46 hvontres: south Oct 31 22:17:48 raduga: they tend to burn quickly and sometimes even explode Oct 31 22:18:04 so what we are saying is you get flaming dropbears Oct 31 22:18:19 raduga: remember the fire in scripps ranch ~3 years ago? Oct 31 22:18:20 the wood is very brittle Oct 31 22:18:30 When I lived in Australia, a kid I know was killed by a drop bear Oct 31 22:18:53 hvontres: I didn't realise it was eucalyptus mostly :/ Oct 31 22:19:04 though yeah, there are tons of them in Scripps Ranch Oct 31 22:19:08 * raduga remembers Oct 31 22:19:14 one of the scariest halloweens ever Oct 31 22:19:23 raduga: not out in the sticks, but when it got closer to the homes there were a bunch of groves Oct 31 22:20:09 raduga: yeah, it was scarry even up in Oceanside...:) Oct 31 22:20:12 i wouldn't want to be near eucalyptus on fire (definitely!) Oct 31 22:20:25 crappit, lacking in usable usb ports Oct 31 22:20:30 i was in Pacific Beach :) Oct 31 22:20:51 but i know people who (used to) live in scripps ranch... that no longer have a house Oct 31 22:20:58 hi Oct 31 22:21:51 hvontres: are you still in oceanside? Oct 31 22:21:51 worst we get where I grew up is when heather burning lights up a forest or a some dry peat Oct 31 22:22:22 raduga: yup. well, right now I'm at work in Irvine..but I'll be back down there tonight. Oct 31 22:22:44 when I was growing up... my family lived in the foothills north of LA Oct 31 22:22:52 hi CoreDump|home Oct 31 22:23:00 yo hrw Oct 31 22:23:05 we had to evacuate a few times... but our house was never burned Oct 31 22:23:35 hvontres: sorry for the commute ;( Oct 31 22:24:06 raduga: ehh, I usually take the train... gives me some time to nap or fiddle with my Z :) Oct 31 22:24:40 when I lived in carlsbad, I rode the Coaster to work every day Oct 31 22:25:21 people felt sorry for me, because a) i had no car, b) I lived farther from the office than anyone else Oct 31 22:25:40 but it took less time for me to get there, than anyone else Oct 31 22:25:47 trains are good :) Oct 31 22:25:59 raduga: acutally, It's kinda nice... by the time I get home I totaly forget about work :) Oct 31 22:26:13 great! Oct 31 22:35:31 hrw: no aironet drivers in OZ? Oct 31 22:35:40 XorA|gone: what is it? Oct 31 22:35:49 hrw: Wifi Oct 31 22:35:58 out-of-kernel one? Oct 31 22:36:09 hrw: used to be alway in kernel Oct 31 22:36:17 its one of the original working ones Oct 31 22:36:27 ah.. one of those old pre-802.11b ones? Oct 31 22:36:48 hrw: no, its 802.11b Oct 31 22:36:54 I do not remember why we did not enabled it Oct 31 22:36:56 hrw: made by cisco Oct 31 22:37:12 hrw: possible its not availbe in CF form Oct 31 22:37:19 speaking about wifi cards... Oct 31 22:37:21 I plugged in my PCMCIA one Oct 31 22:37:52 we will get two 802.11g/c cf cards donated - need to make them supported by OZ/Angstrom Oct 31 22:38:05 g/b I mean Oct 31 22:38:37 hrw: always available for testing, not sure I would have time for heaving kernel hacking on them Oct 31 22:38:42 I have a G network at home Oct 31 22:38:45 I will get driver sources tomorrow and will check how they look and what is needed. Oct 31 22:39:07 XorA|gone: I ahve wrt54gs under desk - no problem with switching to G only Oct 31 22:39:16 brb Oct 31 22:40:40 hmm my etherlink 3 doesnt show Oct 31 22:42:03 guess this means I have to go downstairs and get CF card Oct 31 22:44:00 XorA|gone: you use cf<-pcmcia converter? Oct 31 22:44:06 hrw: yes Oct 31 22:47:00 gods! kill sf.net Oct 31 22:47:21 just need to teach NetworkManager how to store passwords Oct 31 22:47:22 I want to edit one page on oz.org... Oct 31 22:47:31 XorA|gone: gnome-keyring? Oct 31 22:47:50 hrw: probably Oct 31 22:48:06 roll on gnome embedded Oct 31 22:48:49 * XorA|gone needs a better WAP Oct 31 22:49:32 XorA|gone: what you have now? Oct 31 22:49:45 hrw: I think its a Japanese 3com unit Oct 31 22:49:55 hrw: it was dirt cheap on ebay Oct 31 22:50:37 SMC2870W Oct 31 22:50:39 I got my WAP donated ;D Oct 31 22:50:50 lucky for some :-) Oct 31 22:52:04 * XorA|gone should really open it and see if there is a jumper to set the region Oct 31 23:16:05 cu Oct 31 23:16:12 cyas Oct 31 23:27:23 pwd Oct 31 23:33:25 happy halloween y'all :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 01 02:59:57 2006