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Nov 03 04:11:14 <hvontres|home> raduga: hey there... how's the build going?
Nov 03 07:33:34 <hrw|work> morning
Nov 03 08:00:20 <likewise> hrw|work: good morning
Nov 03 08:00:24 <likewise> good morning all
Nov 03 08:06:46 <hrw|work> hi likewise 
Nov 03 08:11:34 <RP> morning all
Nov 03 08:12:01 <Genesis> yo richard
Nov 03 08:15:16 <hrw|work> hi RP 
Nov 03 08:46:11 <XorA> moirning
Nov 03 08:48:29 <Genesis> yo XorA ):
Nov 03 08:48:31 <Genesis> :)
Nov 03 08:49:04 <XorA> good to see things are quieter this morning
Nov 03 08:49:28 <Genesis> XorA, : your track on the fontconfig is the good i think , i compiled xdemineur that doesn't use font ( all is bitmaped ) and it's launch within 1 sec
Nov 03 08:53:05 <Genesis> XorA, ; yesterday , some weird pb with internet, cf netcraft
Nov 03 09:04:57 <XorA> Genesis: not that I noticed
Nov 03 09:19:38 <zecke> koen|away: we need to make more marketing
Nov 03 09:19:47 <zecke> koen|away: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/embedded_linux:_the_long_road_from_GPL_code_release_to_Debian_release.html
Nov 03 09:19:48 <hrw|work> hi zecke 
Nov 03 09:20:04 <zecke> koen|away: the NSLu2 Linux folks didn't do anything at all :)
Nov 03 09:33:53 * XorA thinks hrw|work needs to rename his ISP as disconecto.pl
Nov 03 09:34:37 <zecke> pl (perl) sucks anyway :)
Nov 03 09:34:51 <hrw|work> XorA: s/ISP/company/
Nov 03 09:35:09 <florian_kc> good morning
Nov 03 09:35:16 <hrw|work> hi florian_kc 
Nov 03 09:36:25 <XorA> hey florian_kc 
Nov 03 09:38:59 <XorA> ~lart bloxx while I remeber
Nov 03 09:39:00 * ibot pours hot grits down the front of bloxx while I remeber's pants
Nov 03 09:54:39 <giel> hi
Nov 03 09:54:43 <giel> what does this do?
Nov 03 09:54:47 <giel> DEPENDS_prepend = "${@["qt4x11 ", ""][(bb.data.getVar('PN', d, 1) == 'qt4-x11-free')]}"
Nov 03 09:56:14 <hrw|work> if inherit qt4x11 and you are qt4-x11-free then do not depend on qt4-x11-free
Nov 03 10:06:09 <CoreDump|home> morning
Nov 03 10:19:02 <CoreDump|home> ugh
Nov 03 10:19:10 <CoreDump|home> I forgot how ugly updater.sh was
Nov 03 10:19:25 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: check my unified one
Nov 03 10:19:38 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: and test on akita/poodle
Nov 03 10:19:46 <CoreDump|home> hrw|work: where is it?
Nov 03 10:19:55 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: bugtracker
Nov 03 10:23:20 <_law_> hi any ideas why my dev images doesnt build /var/tmp ?
Nov 03 10:26:01 <_law_> the populate-volatile.sh doesnt work correctly ..
Nov 03 10:27:21 <CoreDump|home> hrw|work: your version is indeed easier on the eye but it still makes me want to vomit =)
Nov 03 10:30:52 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: please test it on poodle and akita.
Nov 03 10:37:10 <CoreDump|home> hrw|work: poodle is the problem here =) I'm trying to move Poodle to root-on-sd by default. Shouldn't be too much of a problem w/ kernel 2.6. However, that needs a new upder.sh
Nov 03 10:46:43 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: what to change? unpack to sd?
Nov 03 10:46:57 <CoreDump|home> spitz-like yes
Nov 03 10:47:07 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: my version will make it simplier ;)
Nov 03 10:47:21 <CoreDump|home> =)
Nov 03 10:48:09 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: run check_for_tar on poodle
Nov 03 10:48:26 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: write check_for_mmc function and call it too
Nov 03 10:49:22 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: then we need to move change some options in tar unpacker (make target device related) and you will get install-to-sd version
Nov 03 10:49:38 <CoreDump|home> yeah
Nov 03 10:50:16 <CoreDump|home> well, it'll need some tweaks since users won't be happy to have their SD card formatted on each "flahs"
Nov 03 10:51:01 <hrw|work> CoreDump|home: I also want to rename initrd.bin to rootfs.bin and then rename hdimage1.tgz to something better
Nov 03 10:51:58 <XorA> hrw|work: romimage.bin would be better from a lusers point of view, and make koen|away froth at mouth as a bonus
Nov 03 10:52:10 <CoreDump|home> XorA: =D
Nov 03 10:52:45 <hrw|work> ;D
Nov 03 10:53:49 <XorA> ozXrom.bin :-)
Nov 03 10:55:07 <Genesis> angXrom 
Nov 03 10:55:27 <hrw|work> umbaumba.tgz
Nov 03 11:06:38 <hrw|work> dump of oz database on sf.net is 363M... something is fscked
Nov 03 11:07:11 <XorA> its all that spam
Nov 03 11:08:08 <hrw|work> maybe
Nov 03 11:11:24 <hrw|work> nope. its rather stats modules
Nov 03 11:21:16 <hrw|work> 249M of stats
Nov 03 11:30:08 <hrw|work> now 16M whole database
Nov 03 11:43:04 <koen|gprs> hey mickeyl 
Nov 03 11:43:18 <mickeyl> morning guys
Nov 03 11:44:56 <hrw|work> hi mickeyl koen|gprs 
Nov 03 11:47:33 <koen|gprs> hey hrw|work 
Nov 03 11:51:52 <tkp> morning
Nov 03 11:51:55 <zecke> mickeyl: congrats!!!
Nov 03 11:52:43 <tkp> I'm getting strange error at the moment when trying to build gdb: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1yetTq35.html
Nov 03 11:52:56 <tkp> has anyone seen this happen before?
Nov 03 11:53:06 <zecke> mickeyl: http://whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=freesmartphone&tld=org
Nov 03 11:55:13 <hrw|work> 49.69xxxxx phone is non-cellular?
Nov 03 11:57:21 <CoreDump|afk> hrw|work: indeed
Nov 03 11:57:42 <hrw|work> time to edit vcard then
Nov 03 12:06:18 <mickeyl> +49 69 is Frankfurt/Main city code
Nov 03 12:06:25 <mickeyl> well, 69, actually
Nov 03 13:50:23 <XorA> Edin boys in the haus
Nov 03 14:13:52 <Genesis> has someone a readline 5.1 bb ?
Nov 03 14:55:24 <hvontres|poodle> morning XorA 
Nov 03 14:59:39 <chouimat> morning
Nov 03 15:00:46 <hrw|work> cu
Nov 03 15:00:59 <hvontres|poodle> chouimat : morning... how are the holy consultant and her worldly assistant doing today ? :)
Nov 03 15:07:52 <chouimat> hvontres|poodle: I'm slowly backing off from the project ... too dangerous for my sanity
Nov 03 15:08:37 <hvontres|poodle> chouimat : hehe... sounds like your customer knows better anyhow...:)
Nov 03 15:12:11 <chouimat> hvontres|poodle: he told him something about the job being impossible to do with lex/yacc (ok not quite impossible but make my job harder) and he simply decided to prove me that I was wrong and guess what he's managing it fairly well so ... soon I will announce that I can't work on it anymore because of a new found job 
Nov 03 16:02:48 <Laibsch> mickey|sun10min: Just wanted to let you know that sharprom-compatible works for me, but it breaks ever once in a while.  I will let you know further details when I hit a reproducable error.
Nov 03 16:03:01 <mickey|sun10min> ok, do that
Nov 03 16:19:16 <zecke> OT: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4240520603.html
Nov 03 16:19:21 <zecke> did you read that already?
Nov 03 16:19:31 <zecke> 'Optimizing the potential of open source in mobile -- new device showcase -- "Mystery guest speaker" representing an Asian ODM unveiling an "innovative new device [that] showcases how Open Source can optimize device functionality"'
Nov 03 16:20:06 <giel> hmz
Nov 03 16:20:23 <giel> the prefix of qmake2 forces the prefix of stuff built with it
Nov 03 16:20:35 <giel> or so it seems
Nov 03 16:20:37 <zecke> which prefix?
Nov 03 16:20:43 <giel> the -prefix
Nov 03 16:20:47 <XorA> zecke: that must be mickeyl :-)
Nov 03 16:21:37 <zecke> giel: qmake has no '-prefix' option?
Nov 03 16:21:44 <giel> qmake2 is configured with configure -prefix ${STAGING_DIR}/${CROSS_SYS}/qt4
Nov 03 16:21:46 <zecke> XorA: I doubt mickeyl will speak
Nov 03 16:22:08 <zecke> giel: ah when compiling Qt4
Nov 03 16:22:13 <giel> zecke: yes, but stuff that uses qmake2 during compile seems to ignore its own -prefix and use the qmake2 prefix
Nov 03 16:22:17 <giel> zecke: qtopia core ;)
Nov 03 16:23:19 <zecke> giel: you confuse me
Nov 03 16:23:28 <giel> zecke: qmake confuses me
Nov 03 16:23:34 <zecke> giel: qmake has no -prefix option at all
Nov 03 16:23:43 <giel> zecke: no, but the configure of qmake does
Nov 03 16:23:55 <giel> zecke: sorry, i wasn't clear
Nov 03 16:23:58 <zecke> giel: well gcc's configure has a prefix as well :)
Nov 03 16:24:06 <Crofton> ask ljp 
Nov 03 16:24:06 <zecke> giel: Either you have an issue building qmake
Nov 03 16:24:13 <zecke> giel: or you have an issue with the used QMAKESPEC
Nov 03 16:24:35 <zecke> giel: or you have a totally different issue with a package that builds with qmake, e.g. missing includes due wrong QMAKESPEC...
Nov 03 16:24:46 <zecke> giel: but I don't get what you try to say :)
Nov 03 16:26:10 <giel> zecke: it's very clear what happens: in the qmake2.bb it says: ./configure -prefix ${STAGING_DIR}/${CROSS_SYS}/qt4 and whatever i say to the qtopia core ./configure, qmake2 ignores the prefix option of qtopia core and creates Makefiles that install everything in work/qtopia-core/image/home/oe/build/staging/arm-linux/qt4, i.e., its own -prefix
Nov 03 16:26:35 <giel> zecke: and if i change the -prefix in the qmake2.bb, the files end up in that place
Nov 03 16:27:03 <giel> zecke: esp. if i change it to /usr, everything works as expected
Nov 03 16:27:05 <zecke> giel: I don't get your point
Nov 03 16:27:38 <giel> zecke: my point is that it's weird that qmake forces an install path, ignoring any prefix option passed to the program that uses qmake to generate makefiles
Nov 03 16:28:16 <zecke> giel: I don't think qmake forces anything at all
Nov 03 16:28:37 <zecke> giel: when you configure Qtopia Core, it will compile its own version of qmake and use that anyway
Nov 03 16:28:51 <zecke> giel: so you are confusing me at this point.
Nov 03 16:28:52 <giel> zecke: no, i've disabled that because you couldn't live with that
Nov 03 16:29:06 <giel> zecke: i'm trying to use the qmake2.bb to generate qmake, as adviced by you ;)
Nov 03 16:29:15 <zecke> giel: I couldn't live with hardcoding the architecture
Nov 03 16:29:24 <giel> zecke: that was one of the points
Nov 03 16:29:32 <giel> zecke: and i totally agree with that one
Nov 03 16:29:41 <zecke> giel: so you sticked the finger in the arse of Qtopia and now your finger is brown?
Nov 03 16:30:01 <giel> zecke: your point being?
Nov 03 16:30:28 <zecke> giel: I still don't get what you are doing. I have the way qmake1 and Qt2/Qt3 work in my mind
Nov 03 16:30:38 <zecke> giel: and I wonder why you have such a hard time doing the same for Qt4
Nov 03 16:30:50 <zecke> giel: so my point is, I don't get what you are trying to do
Nov 03 16:30:52 <giel> zecke: it works, except for the install path
Nov 03 16:31:13 <zecke> "It works, except for the fire and flames"
Nov 03 16:31:16 <giel> zecke: i try to build qmake with the qmake2-native.bb and not with by qtopia core
Nov 03 16:31:30 <giel> zecke: it might help if you were a little less sarcastic
Nov 03 16:31:35 <zecke> I will tell you how things work in my head
Nov 03 16:31:55 <zecke> 1.) you build Qtopia Core stage headers and libs and maybe even create packages
Nov 03 16:32:09 <zecke> 2.) packages depending on Qtopia Core DEPEND on qmake2-native
Nov 03 16:32:41 <zecke> 3.) qmake2-native builds the mini qmake which is part of Qtopia Core and install that into the STAGING_BINDIR and stages the custom QMAKESPECS for qmake2
Nov 03 16:33:24 <Laibsch> mickey_away: Not sure this is the best way to fix this, but arm-linux-ar is not found.  I added "export PATH = ${PATH}:/usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin/" to sharprom-compatible.conf and that took care of it.
Nov 03 16:33:48 <zecke> giel: IIRC with your bitbake file, I didn't like that it staged qmake while we had qmake2-native already
Nov 03 16:34:11 <giel> zecke: step 1) needs qmake2 as well, and that can either be the qmake qtopia core builds when running configure, but i looked at the qt4 bb, which disabled the building of qmake during configure and uses the one from qmake2-native
Nov 03 16:34:38 <giel> zecke: but if it's okay with you to use the qtopia core qmake for building qtopia core itself and not stage that one, that's fine as well
Nov 03 16:35:28 <zecke> giel: I would say it is fine
Nov 03 16:35:36 <giel> zecke: cool
Nov 03 16:35:44 <zecke> giel: and thanks for pointing me to the qt4-x11 file, it is crap as well
Nov 03 16:35:45 <giel> zecke: i removed the hardcoded architecture btw
Nov 03 16:35:58 <giel> zecke: i agree with that statement ;)
Nov 03 16:36:00 <zecke> giel: it hardcodes the mkspec to linux-gnueabi-g++ :}
Nov 03 16:36:08 <giel> zecke: i noticed that yes
Nov 03 16:36:27 <giel> zecke: i want to do something about the packaging and then i'll show you the improved qtopia core bb
Nov 03 16:36:37 <giel> zecke: that'll be monday, 'cause i gotta go home now ;_)
Nov 03 16:36:46 <zecke> take care :)
Nov 03 16:36:53 <giel> thanks, you too
Nov 03 16:36:58 <zecke> giel: and before you leave, I really try to understand the prefix issue :)
Nov 03 16:37:07 <giel> oh yeah
Nov 03 16:37:08 <giel> well
Nov 03 16:37:14 <zecke> giel: and no, I really don't get it. So leat me summarize it please :)
Nov 03 16:37:25 <giel> zecke: i'll summarize it in 3 easy steps okay?
Nov 03 16:37:29 <zecke> giel: we configure qmake2-native with -prefix $STAGING_BINDIR
Nov 03 16:37:38 <zecke> giel: and then you compile qtopiacore with -prefix /usr
Nov 03 16:37:47 <zecke> giel: but things get installed into $STAGING_BINDIR?
Nov 03 16:38:01 <giel> zecke: yes, i'll elaborate a tiny bit, but it's basically what happens
Nov 03 16:38:13 <giel> zecke: we configure qmake2-native with -prefix ${STAGING_DIR}/${CROSS_SYS}/qt4
Nov 03 16:38:24 <giel> zecke: we confiure qtopia core with -prefix /usr
Nov 03 16:38:57 <giel> zecke: installing qtopia core with oe_runmake install INSTALL_ROOT=${D}
Nov 03 16:39:17 <giel> zecke: and the files end up in ${D}/${STAGING_DIR}/${CROSS_SYS}/qt4
Nov 03 16:39:21 <zecke> QMAKEPATH_DIR
Nov 03 16:39:27 <zecke> hmm sorry
Nov 03 16:39:40 <Genesis> a+
Nov 03 16:39:59 <giel> zecke: and modifying the qmake2-native configure -prefix changes the location of were the qtopia core make install dumps its files
Nov 03 16:40:16 <zecke> giel: so there is a path inside the QMAKESPEC :)
Nov 03 16:40:29 <giel> zecke: i thought so, but I couldn't find it
Nov 03 16:40:41 <giel> zecke: but it's been a long day, i could be blind :)
Nov 03 16:40:57 <giel> sorry for the somewhat incoherent rambling ;)_
Nov 03 16:42:37 <zecke> looks like QT_INSTALL_* has such infos
Nov 03 16:43:42 <zecke> giel: it is compiled in :)
Nov 03 16:43:49 <zecke> giel: QLibraryInfo::PrefixPath
Nov 03 16:44:33 <giel> zecke: and i think that's weird ;)
Nov 03 16:44:39 <giel> anyway, you get my point?
Nov 03 16:44:48 <zecke> so yes, qtopiacore and qt4 needs their own qmake when compiled :)
Nov 03 16:44:54 <zecke> giel: yes, finally :)
Nov 03 16:45:09 <giel> okay, so i'll fix this by using the qtopia core qmake for compiling qtopia core ;)
Nov 03 16:45:14 <giel> as it was meant to be
Nov 03 16:45:16 <giel> and not stage that
Nov 03 16:45:43 <giel> next step is to see what my qt4 apps do with the qmake2-native binary ;)
Nov 03 16:45:48 <giel> but that's for later
Nov 03 16:45:52 <giel> i'm off
Nov 03 16:46:08 <zecke> later
Nov 03 17:06:18 <Laibsch> ~admp
Nov 03 17:06:24 <Laibsch> ~seen admp
Nov 03 18:20:51 <koen> re
Nov 03 18:21:10 <zecke> wb
Nov 03 19:08:24 <florian> re
Nov 03 19:58:29 <rwhitby> zecke: you noticed the lack of nslu2-linux and OE attribution in joey's blog too, hey?
Nov 03 20:00:30 <zecke> rwhitby: hehe
Nov 03 20:01:01 <zecke> rwhitby: it looks like GNU Debian did all the work... NSlu2 Linux nothing but parasits :)
Nov 03 20:01:20 <rwhitby> zecke: talking to joeyh right now
Nov 03 20:01:35 <zecke> hehe
Nov 03 20:01:43 * zecke hopes noone takes him seriously
Nov 03 20:04:40 <zecke> rwhitby: I really love my NSLu2. It serves (using nbd) my two sharks
Nov 03 20:07:15 <rwhitby> zecke: in fact, the first port of 2.6 to the NSLU2 was done by kergoth, so attribution for OE is missing too.
Nov 03 20:07:46 <zecke> rwhitby: we know that from Debian already :)
Nov 03 20:08:27 <zecke> but I find it funny that someone bitching Ubuntu does not attribute the origins properly :)
Nov 03 20:08:34 <zecke> and I'm pretty sure we don't have an advertising clause in OE so attribution would only be nice
Nov 03 20:09:11 <zecke> back to my assignments
Nov 03 21:25:56 <koen> re
Nov 03 21:26:54 <zecke> wb koen 
Nov 03 21:28:10 <likewise> hi zecke, koen. everything cool?
Nov 03 21:28:31 <zecke> yes, just done with my assignment
Nov 03 21:28:43 <zecke> I have one more hour before I fall asleep to do Free Software
Nov 03 21:31:15 <Crofton> koen, I see they saved the horses!
Nov 03 21:31:29 <likewise> zecke: what assignment, I have been out of the IRC loop for some days... too busy with annoying stuff
Nov 03 21:32:02 <likewise> Crofton: haha, you following Dutch news?
Nov 03 21:32:07 <zecke> likewise: I'm still a student, so I need to do this boring stuff :)
Nov 03 21:32:13 <Crofton> saw it on CNN
Nov 03 21:32:15 <zecke> likewise: like meausiring resistance :)
Nov 03 21:32:29 <likewise> zecke: what course?
Nov 03 21:32:33 <Crofton> resistance f what?
Nov 03 21:32:43 <koen> Crofton: I was in the provence called 'sealand' last week
Nov 03 21:32:54 <koen> Crofton: not very high water, but some storms
Nov 03 21:32:58 <Crofton> ah
Nov 03 21:33:08 <zecke> likewise: For my physics minor, a course where we to some experiments...
Nov 03 21:33:20 <Crofton> They need to send some Dutch engineers to New Orleans
Nov 03 21:33:21 <zecke> likewise: this time it was AC/DC and meassuring of resistance :)
Nov 03 21:33:36 <likewise> zecke: ok, good. I like AC/DC.
Nov 03 21:33:46 <zecke> likewise: but you need to determine the maximum failure and this took time...
Nov 03 21:34:15 <likewise> zecke: maximum error?
Nov 03 21:34:19 <likewise> tolerance?
Nov 03 21:34:40 <zecke> maximum error :)
Nov 03 21:34:44 <koen> "MeetInstrumenten en NetwerkAnalyse"
Nov 03 21:34:56 <koen> that's how they called that assignment over here
Nov 03 21:35:05 <likewise> zecke: yes, that can be a bloody hell if you have a really complex electrical network.
Nov 03 21:35:49 <zecke> likewise: oh complex == two resistor in row and parallel :)
Nov 03 21:36:12 <zecke> likewise: next week it is time to look in radio active decay
Nov 03 21:36:24 <zecke> Crofton: so watch german news as well :)
Nov 03 21:36:24 <Crofton> You guys know thevenin and norton equivalent circuits?
Nov 03 21:36:26 <likewise> zecke: I know, but if you know those two, everything else can be built from two Z parallel and two Z in series, Z being any impedance.
Nov 03 21:36:41 <likewise> yep.
Nov 03 21:36:45 <koen> Crofton: norton and thevenin are easy :)
Nov 03 21:36:55 <zecke> likewise: yes, but we only had true resistors so impendance wasn't even the topic :)
Nov 03 21:36:56 <Crofton> So you have a black box containing one or the other
Nov 03 21:37:05 <likewise> Crofton: It's just that I always forget whether northon = I or V, or the other way around.
Nov 03 21:37:14 <Crofton> and you have an ammeter, voltmeter, and a thermometer
Nov 03 21:37:20 <zecke> likewise: just calculating R=U/I a lot of times and adding relative errors :)
Nov 03 21:37:21 <likewise> N=I, T=V I think...
Nov 03 21:37:25 <Crofton> how do you determine how the source is configured?
Nov 03 21:37:43 <likewise> zecke: yup, nice exercise.
Nov 03 21:37:53 <zecke> likewise: yeah, what a waste of my time :)
Nov 03 21:38:43 <likewise> zecke: no, it's good to be multi-disciplined. trust me. You can later pursuede your hardware engineers to change something :-)
Nov 03 21:38:52 <hvontres|poodle> zecke: why not just read the rings ? :)
Nov 03 21:39:51 <zecke> likewise: Math+CS+Physics probably does not qualify as multi disciplined :}
Nov 03 21:41:00 <koen> Math+CS+Physics = EE
Nov 03 21:41:06 <Crofton> :)
Nov 03 21:41:15 * koen might be slightly biased
Nov 03 21:41:28 <hvontres|poodle> zecke: still better than law :)
Nov 03 21:41:34 * koen wonders how many people will get that pun ;)
Nov 03 21:41:52 * hvontres|poodle just got it ;0
Nov 03 21:42:00 * hvontres|poodle slaps forehead
Nov 03 21:42:44 <koen> zecke: I got another OE project device
Nov 03 21:44:56 * Crofton gets the pun
Nov 03 21:45:41 <likewise> EEK. I am doing a mtn update and it suddenly opens my "meld" diff tool. Scary.
Nov 03 21:46:12 <koen> likewise: probably local changes
Nov 03 21:46:59 <likewise> koen: Yes, but how does it (mtn) know how to run a GUI diff tool? Is that an exported variable?
Nov 03 21:47:03 <koen> zecke: did gerwin mention that he's organizing that conference in eindhoven?
Nov 03 21:47:14 <koen> likewise: lua hook
Nov 03 21:47:21 <likewise> koen: tnx
Nov 03 21:47:33 <likewise> koen: which conference? t-dose?
Nov 03 21:47:40 <koen> likewise: yep, that one
Nov 03 21:47:55 <zecke> koen: no
Nov 03 21:48:01 <likewise> koen: the wannabe FOSDEM thing.
Nov 03 21:48:17 <zecke> koen: I will be likely at T-dose
Nov 03 21:48:24 <koen> zecke: check the bottom of http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/ProjectDevices
Nov 03 21:48:27 <zecke> or at least in eindhoven
Nov 03 21:48:50 <zecke> kewl!!!
Nov 03 21:49:04 <likewise> I live there, we can meet.
Nov 03 21:51:04 <koen> likewise: bring tomatoes
Nov 03 21:51:12 * koen spots klaas on the list of speakers
Nov 03 21:51:16 <likewise> koen: whom should we target?
Nov 03 21:51:41 <koen> "his current job as Field Application Engineer Europe at MontaVista Linux Software"
Nov 03 21:51:45 <likewise> ah yes, I think he tried to push MV into our company once.
Nov 03 21:52:05 <koen> don't put lennert and klaas into the same room
Nov 03 21:52:10 <likewise> I did not have a hard time convincing management not to.
Nov 03 21:52:24 <likewise> koen: really?
Nov 03 21:52:35 <zecke> koen: what will happen if we do?
Nov 03 21:53:17 <likewise> only one way to find out.
Nov 03 21:53:23 <koen> right :)
Nov 03 21:53:25 <zecke> yeah
Nov 03 21:53:38 <likewise> bring popcorn
Nov 03 21:54:09 <zecke> I prefer frikandel 
Nov 03 21:55:45 <likewise> you can't get frikandel at the movies here.
Nov 03 21:56:08 <koen> neither here
Nov 03 21:56:46 <zecke> you can ready subtitles at home anyway
Nov 03 21:56:54 <zecke> read...
Nov 03 21:57:27 <likewise> T-DOSE is a few days too early.    http://www.pathe.nl/filminfo.asp?film_id=2400&bios_id=-1
Nov 03 21:58:03 <zecke> likewise: ah the pathe, I know that one :)
Nov 03 21:58:12 <likewise> in Eindhoven?
Nov 03 21:58:19 <zecke> yes
Nov 03 21:58:27 <zecke> near the trainstation
Nov 03 21:58:31 <likewise> yup
Nov 03 21:59:31 * koen passed eindhoven a few hours ago
Nov 03 21:59:41 <koen> +by
Nov 03 21:59:50 <zecke> koen: hehe
Nov 03 21:59:51 <likewise> but not coming from zeeland, I hope? 
Nov 03 22:00:14 <koen> likewise: vlissingen -> enschede
Nov 03 22:00:29 <koen> with a stop in apeldoorn to eat some pie :)
Nov 03 22:00:58 <likewise> I thought tilburg -> den bosch was shortest route?
Nov 03 22:01:11 <koen> hmmm
Nov 03 22:01:14 <koen> right
Nov 03 22:01:22 <koen> s/eindhoven/den bosch/
Nov 03 22:01:27 <zecke> hehe
Nov 03 22:01:29 <likewise> :-)
Nov 03 22:01:33 <koen> I did pass by eindhoven last week :)
Nov 03 22:01:45 <koen> for enschede -> weert
Nov 03 22:01:56 <likewise> koen: you travel a lot :-)
Nov 03 22:04:42 <likewise> who's attending t-dose?
Nov 03 22:05:49 * koen says 'maybe'
Nov 03 22:05:56 <zecke> maybe
Nov 03 22:06:50 <likewise> same here. I only find the "logfs" track interesting
Nov 03 22:06:55 <likewise> and the legal stuff
Nov 03 22:06:58 <koen> right :)
Nov 03 22:07:16 <likewise> (arnoud)
Nov 03 22:11:40 <likewise> I am off to bed, I went to the 'bookfest' today and am completely broken from multiple hours of book-shopping.
Nov 03 22:15:35 <likewise> cu
Nov 03 22:15:39 <likewise> good nite all
Nov 03 22:19:40 <CoreDump|home> hi
Nov 03 22:41:01 <zecke> ggilbert: i hope to not cause a performance hit on bugs.oe.org atm
Nov 03 22:47:44 <B_Lizzard> Hi, I'm having a problem with building "atmelwlandriver"
Nov 03 22:48:05 <B_Lizzard> Seems to fail at compilation with some parse error
Nov 03 22:48:34 <B_Lizzard> Changing from GCC 4.1.1 to 3.4.4 did nothing to help
Nov 03 22:48:49 <B_Lizzard> Both versions of atmelwlandriver fail the same way
Nov 03 22:49:26 <zecke> where does it fail, can you fix it?
Nov 03 22:49:48 <B_Lizzard> I'm posting the compilation log...
Nov 03 22:49:52 <B_Lizzard> it's a .c file
Nov 03 22:50:04 <zecke> I hope you will use pastebin
Nov 03 22:50:09 <B_Lizzard> The file that fails
Nov 03 22:50:14 <B_Lizzard> yeah...
Nov 03 22:51:09 <B_Lizzard> pastebin is *slow*....
Nov 03 22:51:38 <B_Lizzard> http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=29311
Nov 03 22:51:44 <B_Lizzard> could you please check it?
Nov 03 22:52:37 <zecke> hehe
Nov 03 22:52:48 <zecke> google finds one oe mailinglist hit
Nov 03 22:53:03 <zecke> B_Lizzard: look at line 85 of fastvnet_cs.c and fix the error
Nov 03 22:53:08 <B_Lizzard> I'll check that out...
Nov 03 22:53:16 <B_Lizzard> Thanks
Nov 03 22:55:53 <B_Lizzard> I checked that line before, doesn't look strange
Nov 03 22:56:02 <B_Lizzard> Of course, I'm no developer...
Nov 03 22:56:16 <B_Lizzard> Here's the line: "static dev_link_t *dev_list = NULL;"
Nov 03 22:56:23 <zecke> that is bad, this is a developer channel :=
Nov 03 22:56:30 <zecke> so it does not know what dev_link_t is
Nov 03 22:56:35 <B_Lizzard> I mean C developer :)
Nov 03 22:56:51 <zecke> you need to include the header that contains the typedef of dev_link_t
Nov 03 22:57:46 <B_Lizzard> Ok, I'll check the other lines as examples and fix it
Nov 03 22:57:50 <B_Lizzard> Thanks
Nov 03 22:58:23 <zecke> dev_link_t must be something within the atmel stuff...
Nov 03 22:59:09 <B_Lizzard> But, If it's an open bug, and reproduceable, it should be fixed....
Nov 03 22:59:17 <B_Lizzard> I'll check the other files
Nov 03 22:59:31 <zecke> sure, you are fixing it no
Nov 03 22:59:35 <B_Lizzard> Aye
Nov 03 22:59:35 <zecke> now
Nov 03 23:00:03 <B_Lizzard> dev_link_t is probably desribed in one of the headers...
Nov 03 23:00:47 <zecke> grep -rni dev_link_t *
Nov 03 23:00:51 <zecke> from within the atmel source
Nov 03 23:01:40 <zecke> ah well
Nov 03 23:02:17 <B_Lizzard> All returned results are from fastvnet_cs.c
Nov 03 23:03:06 <zecke> hehe
Nov 03 23:03:21 <zecke> dev_link_t was removed from the kernel between 2.6.11 to 2.6.17 :)
Nov 03 23:03:33 <zecke> the pain of out of tree drivers
Nov 03 23:03:49 <B_Lizzard> :)
Nov 03 23:03:58 <B_Lizzard> I'll just remove the line, eh?
Nov 03 23:04:13 <zecke> won't work
Nov 03 23:04:33 <zecke> some one with an itch, probably you, needs to update the atmel driver
Nov 03 23:04:37 <zecke> or update the bb file
Nov 03 23:05:20 <B_Lizzard> the latest .bb file is also the latest atmelwlandriver release
Nov 03 23:06:36 <B_Lizzard> There exists a USB patch that makes the driver functional under 2.6 which I could add, but I'm using PCMCIA
Nov 03 23:06:36 <zecke> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blobdiff;h=8c339f5678cf94c2288b331347a23ed9ddecc494;hp=ac11fb1e8d6949aa20dd6d3004b8ac666661cbe9;hb=dbb22f0d65ccc2e9dfeb4c420942f2757a80f8d2;f=include/pcmcia/ds.h
Nov 03 23:07:01 <zecke> but this doesn't need a developer like me :)
Nov 03 23:07:11 <zecke> to use a web browser
Nov 03 23:07:28 <B_Lizzard> You're VERY helpful ;)
Nov 03 23:08:06 <B_Lizzard> And I'm a clueless bastard
Nov 03 23:08:06 <B_Lizzard> But I'm a willing bastard
Nov 03 23:08:52 <zecke> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=fba395eee7d3f342ca739c20f5b3ee635d0420a0
Nov 03 23:09:52 <zecke> B_Lizzard: your options are using an older kernel, not using atmel
Nov 03 23:10:06 <zecke> B_Lizzard: or using one of the diff's from the above URL to update the driver
Nov 03 23:10:07 <zecke> good nite
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