**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 10 02:59:56 2006 Nov 10 07:12:26 good morning Nov 10 07:46:16 hi Nov 10 07:47:19 hello Nov 10 07:51:15 morning Nov 10 07:52:49 mornin! Nov 10 08:01:44 morning Nov 10 08:07:39 evening Nov 10 08:12:05 anyone of you using a version control system to keep track of changes of configuration files? Nov 10 08:12:30 i am searching for a scm that can remember file permissions Nov 10 08:26:00 morning Nov 10 08:26:11 i've got a weird error regarding dependencies Nov 10 08:27:21 in the latest oe.dev tree, the boost.bb generates boost-* packages, which end up in files called libboost-*, while applications depend on boost-* Nov 10 08:27:40 i've got an oe.dev tree from sept 1st which doesn't have this problem Nov 10 08:27:58 there, the applications depend on libboost-* Nov 10 08:28:44 but the thing i don't understand is that a PACKAGES += "boost-filesystem" results in a libboost-filesystem1.33.0_1.33.0-r1_arm.ipk Nov 10 08:29:30 and then packages that DEPEND = "boost" depend on boost-filesystem, according to their ipk, which isn't there Nov 10 08:32:19 i suspect it's somewhere in package.bbclass Nov 10 08:34:26 and package_mappings Nov 10 08:39:50 giel: no idea Im afraid Nov 10 08:40:25 XorA: at least i've got one working tree an one non-working tree, so figuring out what's wrong is possible Nov 10 08:40:28 altho no fun job ;( Nov 10 08:43:28 what does generate the Depends of an ipkg? Nov 10 08:44:22 giel: I dont know, I know it made RP sweat for months getting it right as debian.bbclass is involved somewhere to work out all the renames Nov 10 08:44:29 uhu Nov 10 08:44:59 i suspect indeed it's a conflict between the debian renaming (boost.bb inherits debian) and generating the Depends for ipkg Nov 10 08:46:36 Im not sure it should inherit debian, I thought that was done by the distro Nov 10 08:46:55 well, it is in boost.bb Nov 10 08:47:00 maybe i should just remove that? Nov 10 08:47:13 giel: worth a try until someone knowledgeable appears Nov 10 08:47:29 XorA: RP would be the one to talk to? Nov 10 08:47:33 i'll try this anyway Nov 10 08:47:43 giel: probably RP, maybe zecke Nov 10 08:47:56 it says in boost.bb: Nov 10 08:47:59 # need debian package naming for the libs Nov 10 08:47:59 inherit debian Nov 10 08:48:16 no idea why it "needs" that ;) Nov 10 08:48:17 giel: I know, but OZ and Angstrom already do debian renaming by default Nov 10 08:48:46 okay, i'll give this a try, thanks Nov 10 08:49:18 giel: I always use the when in doubt brutalise method, at least that way you know what doesnt work when the experts arrive Nov 10 08:50:31 :) Nov 10 08:50:41 morning Nov 10 08:50:46 yo hrw|work Nov 10 08:52:18 balle: monotone remember perms iirc Nov 10 08:52:36 giel: package DEPEND on boost instead of boost-filesystem? Nov 10 08:54:39 disconnecting begins ;( Nov 10 08:55:26 hrw|work: you need a bounce proxy Nov 10 08:56:13 or need to switch to using other account for irc Nov 10 08:56:29 hrw|work: it does depend on boost Nov 10 08:56:49 hrw|work: only in the ipkg that results in boost-filesystem and boost-thread-mt Nov 10 09:01:18 morning all Nov 10 09:03:22 re Nov 10 09:04:25 hrw|work, but only the permissions from the initial import. you cannot change them or at least i cannot :) Nov 10 09:04:55 balle: mtn attr Nov 10 09:07:50 hrw|work: removing the inherit debian packages boost, as expected, in oe-style package names, and the Depends seems to be good now Nov 10 09:07:58 hrw|work: so, two questions remain a) why does boost inherit debian and b) why does that break dependencies Nov 10 09:08:11 giel: it should now inherit debian Nov 10 09:08:19 remove that line and rebuild Nov 10 09:08:41 yes, i just did that, that solved it Nov 10 09:08:53 but that gave me the two questions above Nov 10 09:09:07 oh and c) why didn't it break earlier ;) Nov 10 09:09:33 then submit bug Nov 10 09:10:25 will do Nov 10 09:12:38 haha, XorA's lucky guess fixes all, see the brutalise method of debugging has its charms Nov 10 09:13:04 you can changes attribs in monotone Nov 10 09:13:43 hi guys Nov 10 09:13:58 hey mickeyl Nov 10 09:14:03 nice phone Nov 10 09:14:17 thanks :) Nov 10 09:14:54 mickeyl: so you gonna do developer discounts, I have cash ready :-) Nov 10 09:15:03 hrw|work, great! thanks :) Nov 10 09:16:06 XorA: hehe. I'm definitly pushing FIC towards that. Whether they want to make it officially or not, I'll manage to get some phones for the hardware costs in the hands of the people I know who do wonders to OSS. Nov 10 09:18:06 i'm just a bit worried about that January date ;) Nov 10 09:18:21 mickeyl: we dont mind if it doesnt quite work by then :) Nov 10 09:18:40 *nod* release early release often Nov 10 09:18:42 we'll do that Nov 10 09:19:14 morning koen Nov 10 09:19:38 mickeyl: I got ASoC talking to I2S yesterday on the s3c2442 Nov 10 09:19:55 XorA: ah congrats. that's good timing. think it will be easy to backport to 2410? Nov 10 09:20:27 mickeyl: the only difference is I can use crystal clock, you guys are stuck with sucky PCLK Nov 10 09:20:46 hi mickeyl Nov 10 09:20:47 mickeyl: and at moment Ive hard wired it to 44100 which is speed our crystal suits Nov 10 09:20:47 XorA: I will write you/lrg an email. We want to get you one of the developer boards asap, though I'm afraid it come without a working touchscreen. Would that be ok? Nov 10 09:21:00 mickeyl: thats fine, as long as I can ssh in Nov 10 09:21:06 mickeyl: or serial console Nov 10 09:21:26 XorA: serial console is there, usbnet should work sometimes this week. Nov 10 09:21:36 hey hrw|work Nov 10 09:21:52 mickeyl: at moment I run smdk2440 off nfs and serial console Nov 10 09:22:00 mickeyl: as ts driver on that is fscked Nov 10 09:22:43 mickeyl: but a proto board would be really good, as I only have 2442 CPU which has more features than the 2410 and I would like to make the driver generic Nov 10 09:22:57 good morning mickeyl Nov 10 09:23:00 good morning all Nov 10 09:23:52 mickeyl: GUI looks awesome. phone itself remind soapbox Nov 10 09:24:39 hello; I noticed that (at least) in angstrom test images there might be something wrong with 'udev' - I noticed that udev in test image I downloaded for h5xxx doesn't create /dev/tts/* entries, so serial console is unusable. Nov 10 09:25:06 (without additional modifications) Nov 10 09:25:51 mmp: /dev/tts/* is devfs style naming Nov 10 09:26:04 mmp: you want to use /dev/ttyS* Nov 10 09:26:10 hrw|work: yeah, GUI is just top. the case seems to get mixed responses. some like it, some find it absolutely ugly. i'm somewhere in between. the form factor is really good for putting it into your pocket and grabbing it fast (no hard edges), but the case finish has a little bit of plastic touch which I don't like *shrug* the innards are much more important to me though :) Nov 10 09:26:37 mickeyl: you can always make new cases :-) Nov 10 09:27:01 XorA: *nod* Nov 10 09:27:12 koen: hmm, but /etc/inittab there is line which still references /dev/tts/0 as terminal where should getty run Nov 10 09:28:00 mmp: so we should fix inittab :) Nov 10 09:28:09 koen: isnt that set in the machine.conf Nov 10 09:28:19 XorA: iirc, yes Nov 10 09:28:27 SERIAL_CONSOLE= Nov 10 09:28:36 SERIAL_CONSOLE = "115200 tts/0 vt100" Nov 10 09:28:45 that'll be wrong then Nov 10 09:31:08 I use /dev/tts/ naming even with udev Nov 10 09:39:30 have to go; bye:) Nov 10 09:41:03 hrw|work: the bug is submitted Nov 10 09:46:49 * koen stabs camel-lite Nov 10 09:50:02 * mickeyl wanders back in bed Nov 10 09:50:10 managed to catch a cold in Amsterdam :/ Nov 10 09:50:11 bbl Nov 10 09:51:55 it indeed is very cold in .nl Nov 10 10:05:00 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4d433a62... 10/ (1 packages/libiconv/libiconv_1.9.2.bb): libiconv: fix SECTION Nov 10 10:08:49 how do you make to restart ONLY one package from scratch in your build ? Nov 10 10:09:42 good morning Nov 10 10:10:16 florian_kc: you want gpe screenshots from palmtops only? Nov 10 10:10:17 for instance, one task in the package (uncompressing the archive) is marked as done but should be redone Nov 10 10:10:26 valLongfield: bitbake foo -c rebuild Nov 10 10:11:22 hrw|work: ouch no, what do you have? Nov 10 10:11:41 thx koen Nov 10 10:11:44 florian_kc: progear webpad (1024x768) Nov 10 10:12:26 florian_kc: now it runs windows but I plan to move it to debian and then to something OE based with gpe Nov 10 10:12:51 hrw|work: heh, i just saw this at planet.linuxtogo.org - sounds like you mamanged to free up some time quite fast :-) Nov 10 10:13:11 ? Nov 10 10:13:23 hrw|work: ah ok, yes that would be quite interesting. Nov 10 10:13:42 hrw|work: ok, i assumed you had it installed already Nov 10 10:14:56 nope Nov 10 10:16:18 meh Nov 10 10:16:20 camel sucks Nov 10 10:17:17 koen: i remember that someone said this before :-) Nov 10 10:17:29 camel-lite sucks as well Nov 10 10:19:29 hmm.. "sucking lite"? ;) Nov 10 10:24:57 .libs/libcamel-lite-provider-1.2.so: undefined reference to `camel_tcp_stream_ssl_new'| collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Nov 10 10:25:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdb32ab66... 10/ (1 packages/tinymail/tinymail_svn.bb): tinymail: catch up with latest svn, still doesn't compile Nov 10 10:30:01 giel: A .bb file should never be inheriting debian. That's distro policy and not to be done... Nov 10 10:30:49 giel: As for your other problems, I suspect you might have run into a bug in bitbake 1.6. That bug is one of the reasons for the heavy changes in bitbake trunk Nov 10 10:31:05 morning all btw :) Nov 10 10:35:29 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r9228bd47... 10/ (1 packages/boost/boost_1.33.0.bb): boost: Remove inherit debian. We do not set distro policy in .bb files. Nov 10 10:35:31 hey RP Nov 10 10:35:47 RP: close #1566 Nov 10 10:37:06 florian_kc: I'm bugging pvanhoof via email about the buildbugs Nov 10 10:37:47 koen: ok, good... Nov 10 10:38:40 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r005bb69b... 10/ (1 packages/boost-asio/boost-asio_0.3.7.bb): boost-asio: Remove inherit debian. We do not set distro policy in .bb files. Nov 10 10:39:24 koen: done, thanks Nov 10 10:41:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r60413484... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h5xxx.conf): h5xxx.conf: remove devfs style serial port Nov 10 10:42:05 hey lrg Nov 10 10:42:34 hey koen Nov 10 10:42:38 morning all Nov 10 10:43:28 Qhi RP Nov 10 10:44:16 hey lrg ! Nov 10 10:44:36 valLongfield: any joy with your build ? Nov 10 10:45:00 lrg: I'm working an a mx31ads-kernel bb Nov 10 10:45:18 valLongfield: excellent :) Nov 10 10:45:32 s/an/on Nov 10 10:45:43 valLongfield: did you manage to get the patch building Nov 10 10:46:18 lrg: I haven't tried it yet ... I'm sticking to 2.6.16 with Freescale patches Nov 10 10:46:37 lrg: when I have a working recipe for this one, I will include your 2.6.18 patch Nov 10 10:47:19 valLongfield: I'll try and fix it this weekend, this should give us 2.6.19 when it's ready Nov 10 10:48:15 one patch fails at application, but I can't uderstand why ! Nov 10 10:48:35 *************** Nov 10 10:48:47 *** 68,73 **** Nov 10 10:48:51 obj-$(CONFIG_EDAC) += edac/ Nov 10 10:48:55 obj-$(CONFIG_EISA) += eisa/ Nov 10 10:48:59 obj-$(CONFIG_CPU_FREQ) += cpufreq/ Nov 10 10:49:03 obj-$(CONFIG_ARCH_MXC) += mxc/ Nov 10 10:49:07 obj-$(CONFIG_MMC) += mmc/ Nov 10 10:49:11 obj-$(CONFIG_INFINIBAND) += infiniband/ Nov 10 10:49:15 --- 68,74 ---- Nov 10 10:49:19 obj-$(CONFIG_EDAC) += edac/ Nov 10 10:49:23 obj-$(CONFIG_EISA) += eisa/ Nov 10 10:49:27 obj-$(CONFIG_CPU_FREQ) += cpufreq/ Nov 10 10:49:31 obj-$(CONFIG_ARCH_MXC) += mxc/ Nov 10 10:49:31 + obj-$(CONFIG_DPM) += dpm/ Nov 10 10:49:31 obj-$(CONFIG_MMC) += mmc/ Nov 10 10:49:31 obj-$(CONFIG_INFINIBAND) += infiniband/ Nov 10 10:49:32 this was the .rej file Nov 10 10:51:02 valLongfield: I'll take care of it this weekend. Nov 10 10:52:28 lrg: ok ... but look, this patch is totally coherent, it only adds a single line between two others ... Nov 10 10:53:06 probably the file changed Nov 10 10:54:32 valLongfield: there may be an extra space or tab you cant see Nov 10 10:56:12 hi lrg Nov 10 10:56:26 hey Richard Nov 10 10:57:33 lrg: yeah, I think it was an extra space Nov 10 11:06:27 RP: all problems seem to be fixed when i remove the "inherit debian" from the boost.bb, filed a bug report about that Nov 10 11:06:58 RP: oh i see you fixed it already Nov 10 11:07:33 giel: yes :) Nov 10 11:07:44 great, thanks Nov 10 11:09:01 just hopped in, what was this debian fix about? Nov 10 11:09:13 NOTE: package tinymail-0.0+svn20061110-r1: task do_build: completed Nov 10 11:09:48 likewise: boost.bb inherited debian.bbclass, which is wrong Nov 10 11:10:04 giel: dankje Nov 10 11:16:28 koen: who makes the cheap mx31 board ? Nov 10 11:16:36 lrg: logicpd Nov 10 11:16:42 hi Nov 10 11:16:48 koen: thanks Nov 10 11:16:55 where 'cheap' = 'cheaper as mx31ads' Nov 10 11:16:56 hey Bernardo Nov 10 11:17:09 koen: iirc $600 Nov 10 11:17:19 http://www.logicpd.com/eps/som/freescale/iMX31/ Nov 10 11:17:59 and http://www.logicpd.com/eps/devkits/freescale/devkit/imx_devkit/ Nov 10 11:19:15 koen: Looks interesting :) Nov 10 11:22:59 indeed Nov 10 11:23:18 but 'redecorate livingroom' won it from 'new toy' :) Nov 10 11:23:58 I hate it when that happens... Nov 10 11:24:24 ~iirc Nov 10 11:24:27 iirc is probably "if I recall correctly" Nov 10 11:24:38 * RP wonders how mallum would take an expenses claim :) Nov 10 11:25:57 RP: "I could have bought the mx31ADS, so I save you $3349" Nov 10 11:26:02 saved* Nov 10 11:27:35 well, it's clearly the cheapest arm11 available Nov 10 11:27:36 florian_kc: pvanhoof and I fixed tinymail :) Nov 10 11:27:47 if you don't count some toshiba mp3 players Nov 10 11:27:49 koen: cool Nov 10 11:28:12 koen: he is fast... usually too fast for me to follow :-) Nov 10 11:28:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd9b91a2f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Nov 10 11:28:16 tinymail: add patch to get past the iconv configure stage, tinymail will build again starting from rev 1121: Nov 10 11:28:16 http://tinymail.org/trac/tinymail/changeset/1121 Nov 10 11:28:56 * suihkulokki .oO( what does it exactly say about ms portable media center that the most successfull device based on it has a 500Mhz arm11 ) Nov 10 11:30:02 we could try to talk fic into using the i.mx31 in their phones :) Nov 10 11:30:16 and they talk then into donating phones Nov 10 11:30:23 s/they/then/ Nov 10 11:34:48 RP, lrg: http://www.spoerle.com sells the litekit for €774 Nov 10 11:39:59 you guys would buy this kit for fun ? Nov 10 11:40:15 it would be great to have a larger mx31 comunity Nov 10 11:48:35 I see there commits for most glibc packages. Anything new worth knowing? Nov 10 11:52:51 morning all Nov 10 11:53:58 hey do13_ Nov 10 11:55:33 hi koen Nov 10 11:59:26 hi Dirk Nov 10 12:00:36 hi Dirk Nov 10 12:00:50 VoodooZ: Just a cleanup, no actual functionality change Nov 10 12:01:16 hey Marcin, Richard Nov 10 12:03:55 hi Crofton Nov 10 12:05:45 RP: cool. Just keeping an eye on potential slugos related changes. Nov 10 12:09:10 what's the price for the freescale i.mx31 arm chip? Nov 10 12:10:04 VoodooZ: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/description/glibc/ Nov 10 12:10:54 gm Nov 10 12:11:06 * VoodooZ runs switches to his trusty firefox Nov 10 12:12:34 * VoodooZ bookmarks it before he forgets! Nov 10 12:12:37 koen: thanks,. Nov 10 12:12:53 we buy our i.mx31 chips 40$ Nov 10 12:43:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0f5e6e2e... 10/ (1 packages/tinymail/tinymail_svn.bb): tinymail: split up packages per Marcins RFC Nov 10 12:46:56 valLongfield: and you said the board was how much again? Nov 10 12:47:22 Is there a list of commercial companies using OE? Nov 10 12:52:53 amd, intel, o-hand, fic, kernel-concepts, haerwu, techsol.com, 4g-system, dream multimedia, etc Nov 10 12:53:12 celf Nov 10 12:55:35 celf isn't a company Nov 10 12:56:00 they are sponsored by companies ? Nov 10 13:20:51 lo all Nov 10 13:21:00 im having problems w/ ifconfig Nov 10 13:26:09 kantlivelong: and what's the problem? Nov 10 13:30:56 03rpurdie * r632 10bitbake/lib/bb/data.py: data.py: Fix emit_env() to expand keynames as well as values Nov 10 13:53:46 hullo Nov 10 13:58:35 anyone awake? Nov 10 13:59:12 make[5]: *** No rule to make target `-lpcre', needed by `konqueror'. Stop. Nov 10 13:59:12 | make[5]: Leaving directory `/stuff/build/tmp/work/arm-linux/konqueror-embedded-20060404-r3/kdenox/konq-embed/src' Nov 10 13:59:12 | make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Nov 10 13:59:14 any ideas? Nov 10 13:59:23 using openembedded.dev for openzaurus-unstable Nov 10 13:59:36 you got further away than I did... :) Nov 10 13:59:39 same thing happens with bitbake privoxy Nov 10 13:59:52 did you try "bitbake libpcre"? Nov 10 14:00:02 hmm no i havent actually Nov 10 14:02:52 siriusnova: bug 4x? Nov 10 14:03:00 hrw ? Nov 10 14:03:05 what do you mean Nov 10 14:03:16 siriusnova: bugtracker - one of our oldest bugs. Nov 10 14:03:22 oh Nov 10 14:03:29 i didnt check heh Nov 10 14:05:35 you bean bug 33 ? Nov 10 14:14:31 Qyes Nov 10 14:15:13 I have to find time, do checks and push that Nov 10 14:15:48 k np Nov 10 14:19:48 now I have amd64 at home so will check how it works Nov 10 14:21:21 i changed the depends in the privoxy bb from pcre to libpcre and it works Nov 10 14:21:24 btw Nov 10 14:34:13 tmbinc: *done* Nov 10 14:36:39 someone could give me the partition table of a mmc card read on a devices ? Nov 10 14:40:36 zecke: nice :) Nov 10 14:40:45 is all DVB-H data unencrypted, btw? Nov 10 14:43:23 koen: that bug of yours explains a lot Nov 10 14:46:40 lo all Nov 10 14:51:16 tmbinc: atm yes, it will change :( Nov 10 14:51:40 XorA: yes :( Nov 10 14:52:02 koen: well at least you found it Nov 10 14:52:16 koen: now find pH5 Nov 10 14:54:20 tmbinc: I do not know where you are located. in berlin T-Systems has a trial and ~12 TV channels and 10 radio channels Nov 10 14:54:41 tmbinc: in bavaria the "Bayerischer Rundfunk" is broadcasting for channels Nov 10 14:55:03 tmbinc: and in dusseldorf the vodafone hq has the berlin dvb-h signal Nov 10 15:02:12 XorA: btw, http://www.j5live.com/?p=277 Nov 10 15:03:02 morning Nov 10 15:05:12 hi chouimat Nov 10 15:05:46 koen: YAY Nov 10 15:09:50 florian_kc: check http://planet.gnome.org Nov 10 15:12:06 koen: that's gooood :-) Nov 10 15:25:14 the BCM2820 looks nice as well Nov 10 15:37:16 XorA|gone: new toy for you: vino Nov 10 15:37:50 XorA|gone: cant tell the time Nov 10 15:37:51 XorA|gone: tried to sneak off home early..... Nov 10 15:38:27 lrg: he's using vnc over gprs to continue working ;) Nov 10 15:38:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf7870428... 10/ (1 packages/vino packages/vino/vino_2.16.0.bb): vino 2.16.0: add the vino vnc server Nov 10 15:39:25 fsck real time and XorA time do not match in this instance Nov 10 15:40:02 I know why, Liam came into work on time this morning, thats thrown me out by a whole hour Nov 10 15:44:37 who made the aircrack-ng ipk? Nov 10 15:44:58 OE doesn't have ipkgs Nov 10 15:44:58 the host cpu? Nov 10 15:45:07 kantlivelong: your distribution? your friend? Nov 10 15:46:57 zecke: 2.6 zaurus poodle Nov 10 15:47:30 kantlivelong: I think you ask at the wrong place Nov 10 15:48:15 kantlivelong: as the title of this room says. "OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge" this is where the unknown strangers meet Nov 10 15:48:43 kantlivelong: we do talk about questions like. Can we make generating of packages faster, how can we fix this or that issue... :) Nov 10 15:49:57 kantlivelong: ask your question, but don't ask who is responsible as OpenEmbedded is brought to you without warranty Nov 10 15:51:31 njs: I just had a great idea. We need an anonymous SCM system Nov 10 15:54:34 kantlivelong: so what is your question? Nov 10 15:57:37 and once again my wrtsloe build failed :( Nov 10 16:03:59 hey kergoth Nov 10 16:04:08 hey Nov 10 16:04:26 hey kergoth Nov 10 16:05:42 hi kergoth Nov 10 16:06:25 kergoth: how hard is to write plugin for tslib? mt712 is supported, my device has mt510 iirc Nov 10 16:10:40 bye Nov 10 16:18:49 cu Nov 10 16:26:13 Doing a fresh collie build and am getting an error with quilt-native failing in stage not knowing how to make target 'install'. How did I mess things up this time? :) Nov 10 16:31:19 now real time and XorA time are equal again Nov 10 17:06:10 03zecke123 * r633 10bitbake-parser/ (12 files): Nov 10 17:06:10 Start with the next attempt to change the parser Nov 10 17:06:10 This time I'm doing it more radically Nov 10 17:17:42 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rc44913a9... 10/ (1 packages/omniorb/omniorb_4.0.7.bb): omniorb_4.0.7.bb : Create directory on target file system for omniNames log files. Nov 10 17:17:47 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * ra662fc20... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 10 17:17:47 Misc OSSIE updates : add sound output device, the c based waveform loader and Nov 10 17:17:47 update the task-ossie bb file. Nov 10 17:26:29 03zecke123 * r634 10bitbake-parser/Makefile: Update for OSX linker Nov 10 17:27:29 zecke: With the parser, keep in mind that it pays to batch setVars and getVars together as the expansion cache can then help Nov 10 17:28:03 RP: Prio 1: reduce the number of getVars/setVars calls drammatically :) Nov 10 17:28:15 zecke: Yay, even better :) Nov 10 17:28:52 zecke: getVars are the problem due to the expansion Nov 10 17:31:41 prepare sending postcards to me;) Nov 10 17:32:28 RP: I will parse each file into an AST first Nov 10 17:32:48 mickeyl: hey mickeyl master? Nov 10 17:32:50 moring mickeyl Nov 10 17:32:52 hey ho Nov 10 17:33:09 mickeyl: what will happen if someone uses OpenMoko but violates the GPL/LGPL? Nov 10 17:33:11 catched a cold... feeling like shit atm. Nov 10 17:33:19 zecke: he will be tarred and feathered Nov 10 17:33:28 mickeyl : I was wondering, where does Sean live? Nov 10 17:33:32 mickeyl: would it be better to not release the sourcecode, like TT is doing it? Nov 10 17:33:33 hvontres|poodle: Taibeh Nov 10 17:33:48 ibot: spell Taipeh Nov 10 17:33:48 hi mickeyl Nov 10 17:33:50 possible spellings for Taipeh: Taipei Taupe Tape Taper Tapir Tapper Tap Tip Tipper Topee Diaper Tarp Type Taped Tapes Tripe Taine Taite Tepee Tamper Tapped Tappet Taupe's Tape's Taipei's Nov 10 17:34:15 zecke: the difference is... we're not scared of the community. we are part of it :D Nov 10 17:34:22 mickeyl : ok... I was just wondering, since his sample address in his screenshot was near my house :) Nov 10 17:34:24 hey RP. how's it going?? Nov 10 17:34:42 hey mickeyl Nov 10 17:34:48 hvontres|poodle: he's a US citizen, but working on Taiwan Nov 10 17:35:02 mickeyl: BBHandler.py is the most horrible piece of perl code I have ever seen Nov 10 17:35:19 zecke: that bad? :D Nov 10 17:35:28 mickeyl: __PERL__ code :) Nov 10 17:35:30 mickeyl: ok thanks. Trying to have a break atm :) Nov 10 17:35:41 zecke: heh. corrected that online while reading Nov 10 17:35:57 RP: that sounds good. going on vacation soon? Nov 10 17:36:10 mickeyl: no I mean __PERL__ that must be perl, it can be interpreted by python though Nov 10 17:36:12 mickeyl: The vacation was this week ;-) Nov 10 17:36:21 RP: ah :) Nov 10 17:36:36 zecke: you see, python is better than perl, because you can write perl in python Nov 10 17:36:50 hehe Nov 10 17:37:08 mickeyl: you can write perl in anything :) Nov 10 17:37:13 * hvontres|poodle gets some food Nov 10 17:37:40 no - you can write lisp in anything Nov 10 17:37:58 * chouimat curses his neighbor ... it's 6C outside why heating so much !!! Nov 10 17:42:13 hi Nov 10 17:44:44 * hrw fights with booting from memory card in 4 slot card reader Nov 10 17:46:43 time to boot Nov 10 17:47:37 again 'OS not found'... Nov 10 17:51:42 argh... no usb keyboard in dos... Nov 10 17:51:44 fsck Nov 10 17:54:53 hrw: iirc that's a bios option Nov 10 17:55:06 "usb legacy support" or something like that Nov 10 17:55:15 koen: according to this bios it is enabled Nov 10 17:57:37 'press any key to continue' message looks funny on keyless webpad Nov 10 17:58:36 I liked the old "keyboard error, press F1 to continue" the old ibm pcs had Nov 10 17:58:49 old? 2006 pc has it too Nov 10 17:58:58 hrw: we don't use PC anymore Nov 10 17:59:05 koen: there are people out there using PC? Nov 10 17:59:26 9 years there were Nov 10 18:00:51 can bitbake check `uname -m` and inform about psyco only on ix86? Nov 10 18:01:01 zecke: yes they are called Dell now :) Nov 10 18:01:16 I installed x86_64 to increase performance... Nov 10 18:01:16 hrw: no that is impossible Nov 10 18:01:34 hrw: e.g. I have a hacked generic version of psyco for OSX :) Nov 10 18:01:41 I would like to keep that Nov 10 18:02:13 hm.. where I have that 64M pendrive... Nov 10 18:11:38 shit. this machine does not want to boot from usb at all ;( Nov 10 18:15:58 hm. vga=scan was not good idea Nov 10 18:20:46 hvontres|poodle: your patch is I think in the new ASoC Liam released today Nov 10 18:23:13 hrw: Shouldn't openembedded-essential depend on monotone > 0.26? Nov 10 18:23:51 Laibsch: >= 0.26 Nov 10 18:24:02 well, you get the idea ;-) Nov 10 18:24:08 Laibsch: I based it on recent sid so you know... Nov 10 18:24:33 still Nov 10 18:24:43 sure Nov 10 18:27:06 thanks Nov 10 18:28:46 * raduga bitbaking on a nice, fast amd x2-3800 Nov 10 18:29:32 raduga: 3800 is 2.4GHz? Nov 10 18:29:40 (( in vmware session, running on XP host :( )) Nov 10 18:29:51 hrw: yep Nov 10 18:30:11 oh, sorry. Nov 10 18:30:21 3800 x1 is 2.4ghz Nov 10 18:30:28 x2 is 2ghz Nov 10 18:30:36 my 3200 booted on 2550 (instead of 2000) but I did not tested will it run on it Nov 10 18:30:53 (on the dual core, they run the cpus slower) Nov 10 18:31:03 er, run each core slower Nov 10 18:31:10 * XorA|gone hates to think of the heat on a dual core Nov 10 18:31:40 xora: fans help abate the hate Nov 10 18:31:46 XorA|gone: use it as a stove Nov 10 18:32:11 * raduga imagines the heat on a dual core pxa Nov 10 18:32:38 hm. there's a thought. Nov 10 18:32:53 get an intel NAS Nov 10 18:32:55 with a dual core pxa, you could dedicated one CPU to FP emulation.. Nov 10 18:32:59 those are using dual core IOPs Nov 10 18:33:30 or an ixp2800 :) Nov 10 18:33:59 odd, news.google.com crashes my firefox Nov 10 18:35:15 maybe its bad news Nov 10 18:35:15 firefox is evil Nov 10 18:35:28 works fine in seamnonkey Nov 10 18:36:08 works fine with opera and konqueror Nov 10 18:36:10 :) Nov 10 18:36:17 damn Qt Nov 10 18:36:35 bless lpotter Nov 10 18:37:30 someone tried to generate binary locale for x86? Nov 10 18:38:04 not yet, but I have been thinking about it Nov 10 18:38:12 hrw: sounds like thats gonna blow up painfulkly :-) Nov 10 18:38:19 we should try to teach OE a notion about 'compatible hosts' Nov 10 18:38:28 /space/hacking/embedded/bitbake/svn_all/trunk/bitbake/lib/bb/event.pyc has bad magic Nov 10 18:38:41 koen: its not x86 for x86 but amd64 for x86 Nov 10 18:38:57 but x86 for x86 is worth thinking too Nov 10 18:39:01 * XorA|gone suspects use of linux32 will be needed Nov 10 18:39:11 hrw: but the amd64 should be about to run the localegen for x86, right? Nov 10 18:39:25 XorA|gone: linux32: command not found Nov 10 18:39:26 * koen is now on x86_64 as well now Nov 10 18:39:37 hrw: apt-get install linux32 Nov 10 18:39:50 XorA|gone: does not feel a need for it Nov 10 18:40:04 hrw: wait until you try and build glibc and gcc :-) Nov 10 18:40:23 XorA|gone: glibc is packaging now Nov 10 18:40:31 hrw: and qemu-arm does not function on amd64 Nov 10 18:41:22 then maybe then. now I have no need for it Nov 10 18:42:47 hrw: btw, were you able to build some image? I'm not sure, but on my amd64 machine probably fakeroot behaves a bit... oddly. Nov 10 18:43:05 mmp: Ive been building images on amd64 for years with no problems Nov 10 18:43:15 weird... Nov 10 18:43:48 I should double check that everything is on its place... . Nov 10 18:44:15 mmp: does your /dev have ttyS0 or ttySA0 ? Nov 10 18:44:30 mmp: if it's ttyS0 I have fixed the inittab in OE Nov 10 18:45:04 it has ttyS0 Nov 10 18:45:08 koen: thanks:) Nov 10 18:46:03 XorA|gone: my problem is that mkfs.jffs2 crashes with error that /etc/ipkg/arch.conf is not a directory; I suspect that fakeroot does something wrong... Nov 10 18:46:27 when I run it manually outside fakeroot, it works; but of course, special devices are turned to regular files. Nov 10 18:46:39 XorA|gone, mmp: networkmanager works a lot better with wpa-supplicant 0.5.x Nov 10 18:47:19 apart from the dbus problem of course... Nov 10 18:47:41 hmm, would not it be easier to engage pam_console? :) Nov 10 18:48:17 hmm2, I believe I tried to modify postinstall scripts to change dbus configuration to disable those security checks... Nov 10 18:50:25 or patch the .in files in OE Nov 10 18:50:59 another way:) Nov 10 18:51:40 koen: btw, besides the ttyS0 issue, Angstrom bootstrap image runs correctly on h5xxx Nov 10 18:52:25 XorA|gone : Thanks for the update :) Nov 10 18:52:40 after I finish moving my desk I'll set up the h5xxx as compile machine Nov 10 18:54:50 koen: machine which really compiles? Would not that be a bit slow? Nov 10 18:55:06 (at least according to comparision of bogomips...) Nov 10 18:55:26 it would be, but some stuff just needs native compilation Nov 10 18:55:49 and it could run zecke'd autoconf test ratifier :) Nov 10 18:56:12 koen: you still want to compile OpenOffice? Nov 10 18:56:36 zecke: yes Nov 10 18:56:52 but the netbook can't do EABI yet Nov 10 18:57:00 stupid closed-source kernel build system Nov 10 18:57:01 OOo on ARM? Nov 10 18:57:03 koen: you are disguting, I don't get how someone can even like you ;) Nov 10 18:57:04 ~lart psion Nov 10 18:57:05 * ibot cuts off psion's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper Nov 10 18:57:16 netbook? Nov 10 18:57:30 zecke: I usually bribe people with food or beer ;) Nov 10 18:57:33 koen: so OpenOffice is the new EMACS? Nov 10 18:57:50 EightyMegabytesAndContinouslySwapping Nov 10 18:57:51 zecke: yes, I use neither of those :) Nov 10 18:58:08 zecke: on arm it will take days to compile like emacs on a 386 :) Nov 10 18:58:44 re Nov 10 18:59:03 BTW: libpcre 4.4-r6 just build for me on ewi(x86) and home(amd64) without patching. so for me #33 is 'worksforme' Nov 10 18:59:17 >>> bitbakec.parsefile('/space/hacking/embedded/oe/org.openembedded.dev/conf/bitbake.conf', False) Nov 10 18:59:20 yeah :) Nov 10 18:59:23 e_parse_error /space/hacking/embedded/oe/org.openembedded.dev/conf/bitbake.conf line: 361 parse: 1 Nov 10 19:02:26 XorA|gone : Where does liam keep his ASOC stuff? Nov 10 19:02:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * raa011a13... 10/ (1 packages/libpcre/libpcre_4.4.bb): libpcre: also set PROVIDES = "pcre" for compatibility reasons Nov 10 19:02:47 hvontres|poodle: in a sheep stomach Nov 10 19:03:14 Is there something like the equivs package to satisfy dependencies? Nov 10 19:03:17 koen: so what is the EweRL ? Nov 10 19:04:06 I have the problem that apparently libjpeg62 was removed and replaced with the jpeg package. Nov 10 19:04:25 03zecke123 * r635 10bitbake-parser/ (. ast.py bitbakec.pyx lexer.h lexerc.h): Nov 10 19:04:25 BitBake-Parser: Start parsing into an AST Nov 10 19:04:25 Build an AST while parsing and now off to Ex-Gal's Nov 10 19:04:25 birthday party... what a pleasure... Nov 10 19:04:53 CLOSED #33 as WorksForMe Nov 10 19:07:50 later Nov 10 19:09:10 81 bugs closed over the last 7 days! Awesome! Nov 10 19:19:26 Would it make sense to add RPROVIDES = "libjpeg62" to the bb file for jpeg? Nov 10 19:20:00 no Nov 10 19:23:50 * koen notices a new text on openmoko.com Nov 10 19:30:22 koen this website was hacked by gonzo? Nov 10 19:35:32 heh.. how to not say that people learns during whole life... I just learnt that win98 react to ctrl press on boot... Nov 10 19:35:36 hi nicolasfr Nov 10 19:38:18 yes :) Debian installed started Nov 10 19:46:02 hrw: Why? What other way to deal with this change? Nov 10 19:49:13 koen: Wow, that is indeed a sleek device. You think it will be possible to get a Japanese input method working on that thing? I do not see anything about hardware specs or release schedule. Do you know any details? Nov 10 19:49:51 Laibsch: vga 2.8" 280-300dpi, x11 Nov 10 19:50:07 Laibsch: if you have japanese in GPE then you will get it on that phone Nov 10 19:50:09 http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html and http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2006/11/08/congratulations-madam-its-a-phone-2/ Nov 10 19:50:34 or just http://planet.linuxtogo.org/ Nov 10 19:50:54 right :) Nov 10 19:51:07 Laibsch: if you had libjpeg and now have jpeg then it means that it was more granular then before. so someone fscked it Nov 10 19:54:23 hrw: Well we don't have Japanese in GPE yet. Nov 10 19:55:47 hrw: What do you mean? I have kapi installed which depends on libjpeg and I just compiled jards anew (yes, it compiles fine now) but that wants jpeg Nov 10 19:56:03 Both jpeg and libjpeg62 cannot coexist. Nov 10 19:56:28 both from same tree? Nov 10 20:01:34 Well, I cannot build kapi anymore. It is from the feeds. Nov 10 20:01:43 jards is built against current .dev Nov 10 20:02:09 then you know why Nov 10 20:02:09 hrw: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html says it is full VGA. Nov 10 20:02:16 Laibsch: I know Nov 10 20:02:26 hvontres|poodle: hmmm, he seems to have not done the release yet, I thought he was going to tonight Nov 10 20:02:32 Laibsch: I said: 'vga 2.8" 280-300dpi, x11' Nov 10 20:02:49 How is that VGA? Nov 10 20:02:55 280dpi? Nov 10 20:03:08 hrw: How do I build kapi? Nov 10 20:03:18 bitbake kdepimpi Nov 10 20:03:56 koen: I use 0.5.1, still waiting for hrw to check in later one Nov 10 20:04:12 XorA|gone : np Nov 10 20:04:28 mmp: you use reiserfs by any chance Nov 10 20:04:45 XorA|gone: I do on my laptop... Nov 10 20:04:59 mmp: reisershit == wierdshit on OE builds Nov 10 20:05:14 mmp: just built bootstrap-image on amd64 on reiserfs3 Nov 10 20:05:48 hmm, does reieserfs cause any problems? Nov 10 20:06:45 XorA|gone : do the releases go to http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/alsa/ ? Nov 10 20:06:49 mmp: for me, because it just generated random shit where there was supposed to be an FS, its the only FS I ever used I had to run equiv of fsck every day Nov 10 20:06:56 hvontres|poodle: not any more Nov 10 20:07:33 reiser + 64bit == totally b0rken Nov 10 20:07:46 hrw: thanks. Nov 10 20:07:50 Laibsch: but it will break for qte-mt Nov 10 20:07:54 XorA|gone: hmm, I use reiser3 on my laptop continuously for almost two years... Nov 10 20:10:10 * XorA|gone goes off to eat Nov 10 20:10:23 hrw: :-\ Nov 10 20:10:33 I guess we are in a state of flux. Nov 10 20:10:59 I just want to test out jards now and will just recompile jpeg with the RPROVIDES Nov 10 20:11:15 re openmoko: No WLAN? Nov 10 20:11:28 But definitely great news. Nov 10 20:16:37 argh.. 13-32KB/s via samba over wifi.. Nov 10 20:18:07 changed some settings under windows and now its 200K/s Nov 10 20:21:34 ~hail grub4dos Nov 10 20:21:36 * ibot bows down to grub4dos and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Nov 10 20:27:09 bleh Nov 10 20:27:14 ~lart initramfs Nov 10 20:27:14 * ibot squeezes initramfs till initramfs turns blue like papa smurf Nov 10 20:27:39 it seems the kernel dudes hides their idiotic implementations behind "You can use an initramfs!!!!" Nov 10 20:31:59 koen s/dudes/guru ;) Nov 10 20:34:26 What is inside the Freecom MP-35 "Network Media Player"? Can we run Linux/OE on it? Nov 10 20:34:51 buy one and take a screwdriver to it Nov 10 20:34:53 you tell us Nov 10 20:35:06 dremels work good too Nov 10 20:35:10 hehe Nov 10 20:35:17 any preference? :-) Nov 10 20:35:46 I prefer the dremel Nov 10 20:35:49 CosmicPenguin: I'll buy it if it runs Linux by default. Nov 10 20:36:38 anyone heard anything about EFIKA boards? Nov 10 20:36:49 Crofton|home: yes Nov 10 20:36:54 I guess/suspect there is a Wischip ARM in it. Nov 10 20:36:58 anything good? Nov 10 20:37:11 quite interesting ppc board Nov 10 20:37:20 likewise: is the firmware downloadable? Nov 10 20:37:32 I mean like when they will send them to people in the dev program :) Nov 10 20:38:23 koen: Yup, d'loading as we speak. http://www.freecom.com/firmware.asp?form1=true&form2=true&serie=12500&Manufactures=12500 Nov 10 20:38:38 http://www.powerdeveloper.org/8641d.php Nov 10 20:41:45 hey, i'm building familiar for the palm lifedrive and I'm trying to add support for the lifedrive Nov 10 20:41:59 fahhem: good Nov 10 20:42:02 i added a palmld.conf and a line to the build-env.sh form palmld Nov 10 20:42:10 but when trying to build, i get "| checking target system type... Invalid configuration `INVALID-linux': machine `INVALID' not recognized" Nov 10 20:42:22 fahhem: show us the palmld.conf Nov 10 20:42:24 and I have MACHINE set to palmld in several places Nov 10 20:42:35 fahhem: and use the openembedded tree, not that crappy familiar tree Nov 10 20:43:15 i'm told by several people the oe tree fails a lot more Nov 10 20:43:27 familiar people? Nov 10 20:43:27 likewise: "Jasper Bootloader v1.0.0 (Jul 27 2006 12:34:51)" :) Nov 10 20:43:38 likely because they haven't pushed their changes back to OE.... Nov 10 20:44:08 not just familiar, the hackndev people as well Nov 10 20:44:14 koen: googling for "Jasper Bootloader" gives some earlier insights. Nov 10 20:45:01 likewise: "Copyright (C) 2002 by Sigma Designs, Inc" ? Nov 10 20:45:02 http://rafb.net/paste/results/Hs10N881.html Nov 10 20:45:09 in next week I will try another attempt to install debian on progear... and will take photos. webpad + cradle + normal keyboard + external dvdrw.. should look strange Nov 10 20:45:33 hrw: hehe ;) Nov 10 20:45:37 hi Nov 10 20:46:07 nicolasfr: you stripped win98 so much that it took hour to get webpad working as webpad ;) Nov 10 20:46:30 fahhem: where did you get that conffile from? Nov 10 20:46:41 koen: the design is by http://www.airlinktek.com/ Nov 10 20:46:50 nicolasfr: btw - that orinoco card can be get from progear or it is stuck? Nov 10 20:47:14 hrw: did not touch win98. The guy from whom I bought it (ebay) did it. Nov 10 20:47:23 ah Nov 10 20:47:59 hrw: linux should solve many things Nov 10 20:48:32 likewise: it seems to run linux Nov 10 20:48:48 koen: Yes, and there is already alternative f/w: http://rapidshare.de/users/PMS73Q Nov 10 20:49:01 IIRC the orinoco card can be taken out easily (take out a few screws?) Nov 10 20:49:13 likewise: would be a nice toy Nov 10 20:49:18 koen: but it does not seem to be a from-scratch build Nov 10 20:49:35 koen: yes, it can play HDTV up to 1080i Nov 10 20:49:51 koen: Alex/BobOfDoom from HacknDev made it Nov 10 20:50:11 fahhem: that file is a mess Nov 10 20:50:42 "we don't set variables, we initialize them empty and append to it" Nov 10 20:50:49 koen: hacku, hacku way Nov 10 20:50:49 ? Nov 10 20:51:11 BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS = "" Nov 10 20:51:12 BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS_append = " udev module-init-tools" Nov 10 20:51:12 Nov 10 20:51:33 "and we do it inconsistenty!" Nov 10 20:51:35 BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS = "" Nov 10 20:51:35 BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += " udev module-init-tools irda-utils" Nov 10 20:51:49 ;D Nov 10 20:51:58 ~hail task-base for removing that crap Nov 10 20:52:00 * ibot bows down to task-base for removing that crap and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Nov 10 20:53:30 hrw: http://web.archive.org/web/20050204075856/http://eviladmins.org/~aaron/projects/progear.shtml Nov 10 20:53:39 nicolasfr: I was there Nov 10 20:53:53 koen: are you talking about the palmld.conf? Nov 10 20:54:26 koen: I would have small fixes to commit. Nov 10 20:54:57 fahhem: yes Nov 10 20:55:15 fahhem: this is how it would look in openembedded: http://rafb.net/paste/results/P09nCh91.html Nov 10 20:55:33 hrw: I have a nearly finished getting Linux to run on my other tablet. Only problem is that touchscreen (plugged into /dev/ttyS0) becomes crazy after resume/suspend. I haven't found how to "reinitialise" ttyS0 so that it works again. Nov 10 20:55:45 koen: so replace it? Nov 10 20:55:46 lamikr: attach them to the bugtracker Nov 10 20:55:56 nicolasfr: also progear? Nov 10 20:56:02 koen: The device is ARM ... Nov 10 20:56:12 koen: lamikr iirc has r/w access Nov 10 20:56:37 hrw: ah well, from the remark I assumed otherwise Nov 10 20:57:03 hrw: no Tatung webpad (http://www.geek-fr.com) Nov 10 20:57:16 hrw: I am not sure have I it anymore. I have used it last time with oe 0.25 or 0.26 so it may be disabled. Nov 10 20:58:02 nicolasfr: atleast under linux it show correct memory amount. Nov 10 20:58:20 lamikr: then contact koen to get it enabled again Nov 10 20:59:08 I/we never disabled anything Nov 10 20:59:34 koen: Ok, I will try to commit setserial download url change first. Nov 10 20:59:53 koen: monotone 0.25 -> 0.26 change? Nov 10 21:00:08 hrw: all keys where preserved Nov 10 21:00:34 i think its good that its recompiling everything now, means MACHINE has been changed finally Nov 10 21:00:35 koen: and then the Grand Product Listing here: http://mediagate.pbwiki.com/GPLViolations Nov 10 21:01:07 bye all... time for some sleep. Nov 10 21:01:50 likewise: cute Nov 10 21:01:52 I need to buy USB keyboard... Nov 10 21:02:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r09a60ca1... 10/ (1 conf/machine/palmld.conf): Nov 10 21:02:33 palmld.conf: add rewritten palmld.conf Nov 10 21:02:33 * the kernel is still missing, I'll leave it up to the palm dudes to attach it to the bugtracker Nov 10 21:02:50 fahhem: there you go Nov 10 21:04:22 koen: This is what I was looking for, a development wiki: http://mediagate.pbwiki.com/MG35Development Nov 10 21:04:46 koen: so add rather than edit? Nov 10 21:05:01 fahhem: ? Nov 10 21:05:09 sorry, i meant CIA Nov 10 21:05:24 oh wait, i'm confused now Nov 10 21:05:32 what is CIA-4 talking about? Nov 10 21:05:36 is that an edit to the CVS? Nov 10 21:06:05 and i meant "add rather than replace" Nov 10 21:06:10 CIA-4 is a bot Nov 10 21:06:20 heh.. I had cia* in ignorelist Nov 10 21:06:21 ah Nov 10 21:06:21 it shows our commits to monotone Nov 10 21:07:18 IPKG__EXTRA_ARCHS = "all arm armv4t armv5te" -> IPKG_EXTRA_ARCHS = "all armv4t armv5te" Nov 10 21:07:42 module_autoload_sa1100-rtc = "sa1100-rtc" is wrong rather.. Nov 10 21:08:02 hrw: 'all' can be left out as well Nov 10 21:08:18 koen: yep Nov 10 21:08:18 hrw: check the actual commit :) Nov 10 21:08:36 koen and hrw: I have problem with commits. I have monotone key in ~.monotone/keys/lamikr\@openembedded.org Nov 10 21:08:52 put when I call "mtn push" and fill password I get error Nov 10 21:09:24 mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.openembedded.org: 'received network error: remote public key hash 'ede6767424cae0aafadb305e574fd4aadcdca917' is unknown' Nov 10 21:09:32 mtn: bytes in | bytes out | certs out | revs out Nov 10 21:09:34 mtn: 100 | 347 | 0 | 0 Nov 10 21:09:35 mtn: error: processing failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting Nov 10 21:10:51 lamikr: could you try again? Nov 10 21:11:04 I will Nov 10 21:13:49 mtn-0.30: allowed 'lamikr@openembedded.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.dev' excluding '' Nov 10 21:14:21 koen: thanks. Now it went in. Nov 10 21:14:36 * koen wonders what went wrong the first time Nov 10 21:14:55 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * r788d9bed... 10/ (1 packages/setserial/setserial_2.17.bb): setserial: change the download url for sources to working one. Nov 10 21:15:05 reboot time Nov 10 21:17:42 I made the pull and merge first before push and merge made some work... Is there still the web page somewhere to check that I did not made the double head erronously? Nov 10 21:19:01 run 'mtn automate heads' Nov 10 21:19:26 it shows one checksum. Nov 10 21:19:34 if that returns more than one hash, you have multiple heads Nov 10 21:19:55 ok, I will start using that for verifying. Nov 10 21:21:30 mtn heads also works Nov 10 21:21:41 no need to use automate normally when using cmdline Nov 10 21:42:53 ~curse dfi Nov 10 21:42:55 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, dfi ! Nov 10 21:45:27 heh Nov 10 21:46:00 * koen tries to remember which mainboard is from dfi Nov 10 21:46:26 either my athlon 1G board or the athlon 1.8G board Nov 10 21:47:25 my first pc one was dfi Nov 10 21:50:46 cu Nov 10 21:54:23 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * rb58e8874... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): rxvt: add version 2.8.0 Nov 10 22:04:16 * raduga hugs CIA Nov 10 22:26:52 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * r64b8c3ce... 10/ (1 packages/xstroke/xstroke_0.6.bb): xstroke: fix download url to 0.6 version Nov 10 22:32:00 * CoreDump|home tries to "fix" the XP notebook of a co-worker and laughs Nov 10 22:32:33 the bloddy WGA thingy complains about a pirated version....on an OEM install of XP with valid license =) Nov 10 22:37:11 CoreDump|home : why not grab a fresh install of to fix it :) Nov 10 22:37:28 hvontres|poodle: I wish :\ Nov 10 22:37:55 bye Nov 10 22:38:08 * hvontres|poodle hugs his armada 7770 running fc4 Nov 10 22:38:26 yes, and if he after couple of week playing still needs windows for something, install win image with qemu with < 10 gig partition. :-) Nov 10 22:38:39 * CoreDump|home hugs his Samsung P30 running Debian SID Nov 10 22:39:31 CoreDump|home : do you know of any Java VM's that run in opie? Nov 10 22:39:39 well luckily for me, it appears his battery if fubar =D Nov 10 22:39:53 hvontres|poodle: nope, sorry Nov 10 22:40:34 CoreDump|home : np. I just saw the java-phone client for gmail and was thinking of playing with that on a poodle :) Nov 10 22:40:56 heh Nov 11 00:00:54 hey Nov 11 00:04:53 florian: Still awake? How is bug 1356 (japanese .po files for gpe) coming along? Nov 11 00:05:43 hi zecke Nov 11 00:06:29 Laibsch: oh right, sorry - i had some fights this week... Nov 11 00:06:59 i hope you are not in hospital. Nov 11 00:07:15 Or are you talking about the GPE troubles? Nov 11 00:28:02 Laibsch: ah no, gpe troubles and way too huge pile of work Nov 11 00:29:03 Laibsch: did you upload any of the new translations to the translation project? Nov 11 00:29:12 no Nov 11 00:29:26 I only bug you ever once in a while ;-) Nov 11 00:29:46 anything I need to do? Nov 11 00:31:06 fahhem, koen: Kudos for adding palmld.conf. I waited *so long* for someone of palm folks to start submitting stuff. Nov 11 00:31:14 Hope, the gate is open. Nov 11 00:31:28 (And I keep negotiating with them myself) Nov 11 00:34:11 florian: did you guys split? Nov 11 00:34:56 Laibsch: in theory it just works if i add the files to svn, but if someone in the translation project add a japanese translation it will overwrite your files. Nov 11 00:35:19 Laibsch: so at some point it would be useful to submit them to the translation project. Nov 11 00:35:24 well, I guess that would be OK. Nov 11 00:35:33 Where is that? Nov 11 00:35:42 I doubt anybody working on the Japanese stuff. Nov 11 00:37:52 Laibsch: well... the opinions about that differ a bit. One guy speaks about a split and all the others moved :-) Nov 11 00:38:16 ic Nov 11 00:38:24 but where is this translation stuff? Nov 11 00:39:55 http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/ Nov 11 00:41:37 this is the shits Nov 11 00:41:48 I still don't get it how to contribute the po files. Nov 11 00:42:06 * Laibsch grumbles and reads on Nov 11 00:42:19 does this have to be so complicated??? Nov 11 00:46:56 OK, I think I found it at http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/registry.cgi?team=ja Nov 11 00:57:06 03zecke123 * r636 10bitbake-parser/ (bitbakec.pyx kill-parser.py parse-all.py): Building the AST of all bbfiles, incs, conf and bbclass takes 2 seconds Nov 11 01:01:11 * florian needs some sleep, good night Nov 11 01:30:34 fahhem, Hi! Nov 11 01:30:46 fahhem, So how palmld build goes? Nov 11 01:36:02 palmld is pretty good Nov 11 01:36:10 i hit a new bug though Nov 11 01:36:15 qemu-arm: symbol lookup error: qemu-arm: undefined symbol: _llseek Nov 11 01:48:34 fahhem, do you confirm that palmld builds with OE.dev and boots? Nov 11 01:50:20 no, it doesn't build Nov 11 01:50:28 glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r5 fails Nov 11 01:50:31 well, failed Nov 11 01:50:36 i may or may not have fixed it Nov 11 01:51:13 I'm gonna leave, but when I get back it'll hopefully be done compiling and I'll update the status Nov 11 01:51:24 but for the next 4 hours, I'm off Nov 11 01:57:07 fahhem, good luck and try Angstrom, after all ;-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 11 02:59:57 2006