**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 03 02:59:57 2006 Dec 03 04:04:54 gneuf, so you wee saying that I could put a full blown debian system on my ipaq... is that a specialised version of debian? with the CPU being arm and all Dec 03 04:16:44 gneuf, can I replace the RR kernel with the one I've compiled? Dec 03 04:21:24 there is a debian arm dist, iirc Dec 03 04:21:40 trouble is, your ipaq doesn't use a standard PC boot loader, Dec 03 04:21:56 is it based on OE? Dec 03 04:22:14 so you'll probably be better off using a distribution explicitly targeted for the ipaq (i.e. OE/familiar or OE/angstrom) Dec 03 04:22:20 zezom: nope :) Dec 03 04:22:31 OE are independent from debian. Dec 03 04:23:19 fair enough... the other reason I'm using OE is that I want to get a gumstix and I'm under the impresion that they use OE Dec 03 04:23:27 though, an OE system is likely to resemble debian more strongly, than one of the commercial (redhat, etc) distributions Dec 03 04:24:57 zezom: if you use debian, you should find OE systems similar. Dec 03 04:25:23 I'm a gentoo user Dec 03 04:25:37 I used depian for a while about 5 years back Dec 03 04:25:38 heh. even better ;) Dec 03 04:25:44 yeah :) Dec 03 04:26:15 as with gentoo, OE hoists itself by its own suspenders Dec 03 04:26:37 although I havn't found an update command for bitbake yet... do I have to do that manually to every package I want updated? Dec 03 04:26:46 (i.e. you get the build scripts, and *everything* else is built from src) Dec 03 04:27:02 yeah, I do stage 1 installes, but they sure do take a while Dec 03 04:27:38 zezom: best ask one of the developers Dec 03 04:27:52 (anyone else in this channel) Dec 03 04:27:54 no worries Dec 03 04:28:14 when I update the tree it seems to list all of the stuff that has changed any way Dec 03 08:59:11 morning all Dec 03 09:02:46 morning all Dec 03 09:18:33 good morning all Dec 03 09:24:45 hi koen|train Dec 03 09:25:43 I have a lot of 'NOTE: Couldn't find shared library libgcc_s.so.1' in do_package. Any ideas ? Dec 03 09:42:54 i am taking the plunge and update to ubuntu edgy... keep fingers crossed Dec 03 10:38:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r24854553... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-libc headers 2.6.18+2.6.19-r1: fix install for powerpc Dec 03 10:39:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfaf45bf1... 10/ (1 packages/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers_2.6.18.bb): linux libc headers 2.6.18: fix install for powerpc Dec 03 10:48:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re0162277... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass): glibc-package.bbclass: remove bogus --without-fp Dec 03 10:54:18 Ifaistos: How did it go? My upgrade did not go so smooth. Dec 03 10:58:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r098bcef9... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom 2007.1: more powerpc tweaks Dec 03 11:12:55 france: Can you give me more powers on bugzilla.handhelds.org? I would like to do some bug triaging. Dec 03 12:12:43 morning guys'n'gals Dec 03 12:17:34 koen: hey koen Dec 03 12:17:50 koen: did your trip back work out ok? Dec 03 12:18:16 hey folks Dec 03 12:18:21 leoncamel: hey Dec 03 12:18:31 likewise: sort off Dec 03 12:18:54 koen: as in "not quite"? Dec 03 12:18:55 the last bus was a no show, so I took a cab home Dec 03 12:20:07 likewise: did the kroeg work out ok? Dec 03 12:21:12 koen: we went to a birthday party to a friend of mine, yes it was ok Dec 03 12:21:40 hi all, is anyone looking at porting java now it is gpl? Dec 03 12:22:13 brb Dec 03 12:23:08 'porting'? Dec 03 12:24:20 darmou: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000480.html Dec 03 12:39:40 koen that sounds very promising Dec 03 12:42:38 oesources.org came back to life? Time to close bug 1516. Dec 03 12:42:45 * Laibsch ticks off one more Dec 03 12:49:05 Laibsch : Not that good. initial dist-upgrade failed. Doing a -f install now Dec 03 12:50:58 koen : I did some thinking on the oe/icecc and it seems that it will be possible to work on compile cluster of similar arch (not mixed x86_64 and i386) Dec 03 12:51:39 koen : or it will require to change the way the toolchain gets build by OE Dec 03 12:51:46 Ifaistos: Isn't that a general limitation of icecream? Can icecream work on heterogeneous clusters? Dec 03 12:52:44 Laibsch : No its not. You can provide to the clients the build enviroment you want them to use. Dec 03 12:54:47 Ifaistos: yes, but as you said, indeed OE builds a cross toolchain only for the "master" host doing the OE build. Dec 03 12:55:38 Ifaistos: did you get icecc to work yet with OE? I adapted the current icecc.bbclass to "almost works", thanks to zecke. Dec 03 13:01:03 Laibsch : I had a problem as my hosts are mixed amd64 and p4 and had different versions of icecc, which it seems did not 'speak' to each other Dec 03 13:07:00 likewise : I am working to get icecc going on doing "normal" builds on a homogenius network, to verify that it works, and then see what OE does Dec 03 13:08:19 likewise : mixed networks, will probably require modifications in the OE build system (i.e generate toolchain for 2 types of host) Dec 03 13:08:32 likewise: I pointed Ifaistos to your work in bug 1485 yesterday so we should be all on the same page here. Dec 03 13:09:22 I guess getting bug 1485 fixed is a prerequesite for any kind of further work. Dec 03 13:09:58 Can somebody please remove dpkg bb file 1.13.11 as I suggested in bug 984? Dec 03 13:13:25 To 'solve' 1485 you need to add ICECC_PATH variable in the Dec 03 13:13:26 local.conf. as it seems the icecc.bbclass does not check if its empty Dec 03 13:13:55 that's why you get the error mentioned Dec 03 13:14:02 or add a check in icee.bbclass Dec 03 13:20:19 it's the moment of truth.... Dec 03 13:20:21 koen: there is a bug in irssi .bb files (cyril@asusW1N16RWT ~/OpenEmbedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/irssi $ cat irssi_0.8.10.bb Dec 03 13:20:25 arg Dec 03 13:20:40 koen: irssi_0.8.10.bb and irssi_svn.bb Dec 03 13:21:01 should depends on glib-2.0, not glib-1.2 Dec 03 13:24:17 Laibsch: bug 1485 fixes the icecc.bbclass, BUT YOU should still set ICECC_PATH beforehand. Dec 03 13:25:17 likewise: I have it set via an environment variable. It is set from a script that also sets the other env vars for bitbake/OE. Dec 03 13:25:27 Laibsch: ok cool. Dec 03 13:25:42 at least it boots :) Dec 03 13:26:42 Ifaistos: have you seen http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1637 ? Dec 03 13:28:16 koen : Does the 603 have an fpu ? I think this is because it needs softfloat Dec 03 13:29:47 Ifaistos: "Double Precision Floating Point Unit (FPU)" Dec 03 13:29:54 Ifaistos: from http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC5200B Dec 03 13:32:03 Ifaistos: I hope the efikas arrive soon Dec 03 13:36:19 * likewise hopes so too, makes the sundays much more interesting :-) Dec 03 13:37:17 koen : missed the last reply, as i rebooted Dec 03 13:37:19 likewise: did you see the ibm cores that do hw mpeg2? Dec 03 13:37:35 Ifaistos: http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC5200B Dec 03 13:37:54 koen: I have seen plenty of IBM cores, which one? Dec 03 13:38:27 koen: the nicest ones are from NEC / NTT (NECT with the Japanese Telco) Dec 03 13:38:36 s/NECT/NEC Dec 03 13:38:42 likewise: http://www-03.ibm.com/chips/products/digitalvideo/products/ppc.html Dec 03 13:39:33 koen: hm, no. encoders as well? Dec 03 13:40:03 I'm affraid not Dec 03 13:40:21 likewise: I noticed a thread on ffmpeg-devel about arm optimizations Dec 03 13:41:31 likewise: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2006-August/014405.html Dec 03 13:44:18 koen: interesting Dec 03 13:45:11 is possible to build glibc 2.4+ with k 2.6.12? Is there ant "compat" mode or something? Dec 03 13:50:56 Ifaistos: fix/bug #1495 is much more needed than #1485 Dec 03 13:52:28 * Laibsch points to bug 984 as an easy pick once more Dec 03 13:52:38 for those with the powers. Dec 03 13:53:23 Laibsch: nice and subtle :-) Dec 03 13:53:36 subtle? Dec 03 13:54:40 ~dict subtle Dec 03 13:54:43 Dictionary 'subtle' (2 of 8): able to make fine distinctions; "a subtle mind" ;; Zip code(s): 42129. Dec 03 13:55:25 XorA|gon1: I understand the semantics of subtle. But I do not understand how you meant to apply them here. Dec 03 13:55:44 likewise: I think i will spend a few days working with icecc/parallel make solution. If we get this working, it will save a lot of time Dec 03 13:55:45 Laibsch: Im sure thats like the 3rd time you pointed at #984 Dec 03 13:56:27 once again the irony smiley is needed Dec 03 13:56:29 I think it is the second time. And since nobody picked up on it either way, I did so again. "Steter Tropfen höhlt den Stein" Dec 03 13:56:36 Ifaistos: agreed, we should make an IP tunnel somehow so that we can connect our build boxen. Dec 03 13:56:48 Ifaistos: and debug Dec 03 13:56:50 anyway I need to saw stuff, back later Dec 03 13:56:56 saw 3? Dec 03 13:57:34 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r71b2a974... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass): ice.bbclass, apply patch from #1495, closes #1495 Dec 03 13:57:53 thanks Dec 03 13:57:59 likewise: I have a build cluster (10 p4@2.4 Ghz, 256MB Ram) that's half finished. I'll get working on that tommorow when i go to the office Dec 03 13:57:59 koen? :-) Dec 03 13:58:42 likewise: fixing the flooring in my loft, the numpties we bought the house off of just dont seem to get how floorboards work Dec 03 13:59:08 Ifaistos: ok, it helps during debugging to clean the cross/icecream and staging/icecream directories on rebuilds during debugging and also remote chroot's icecream tarballs Dec 03 14:01:18 likewise : As i said. First i need a working icecc network. Once this is verified, we can see what OE/icecc.bbclass does or does not do Dec 03 14:01:32 Ifaistos: ok. Dec 03 14:02:04 likewise : Its a pitty to have all these machines sitting idle ;) Dec 03 14:02:22 Ifaistos: which platform? I have built 0.7.14 for ubuntu 6.06/amd64 Dec 03 14:03:37 likewise : we used Debian etch (it also has 0.7.14) and ubuntu amd64/i386 machines which i am switching from dapper to edgy Dec 03 14:04:32 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re7bf5c0e... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): dpkg: dropped all old versions - close #984 Dec 03 14:04:54 likewise : edgy also has 0.7.14, so at least all the machines will have the same version Dec 03 14:05:10 Ifaistos: good. Dec 03 14:06:04 thanks, hrw. Dec 03 14:15:32 Ifaistos: This is a good reference page during testing a cross icecc: http://www.mockies.de/main.php?seite=crosscompiling&lang=en Dec 03 14:23:32 likewise : Looks interesting Dec 03 14:23:44 likewise : "The scheduler only distributes to machines with the same arch. " Dec 03 14:23:52 Ifaistos: yes Dec 03 14:28:14 I can't believe I just downloaded 400MB of Mozilla code just to have Minimo fail Dec 03 14:28:25 I could have watched porn or something Dec 03 14:28:44 Hmmmm Dec 03 14:29:04 dude, that was bash.org material ;) Dec 03 14:29:25 :) Dec 03 14:30:24 But really, does Minimo work for anyone? Dec 03 14:30:51 morning Dec 03 14:30:57 Good Morning Dec 03 14:30:57 B_Lizzard: nice text ;D Dec 03 14:31:11 ~lart .oz354x for being so old Dec 03 14:31:12 * ibot beats .oz354x into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy for being so old Dec 03 14:32:27 hrw: morning Dec 03 14:33:32 * mwester takes ibot to attend an anger-management seminar... Dec 03 14:33:35 moring hrw Dec 03 14:34:22 * CoreDump|afk likes a stable "old" .oz354x way better than any unstable .dev branch Dec 03 14:34:53 CoreDump|afk: for some reasons I like it too. Dec 03 14:35:15 CoreDump|afk: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929 Dec 03 14:35:20 CoreDump|afk: want to fix it? Dec 03 14:35:27 in .oz354x Dec 03 14:36:23 hrw: err update quilt? Where's the problem w/ that? Dec 03 14:37:23 hrw: I'll look at it later, gotta run for now. cya Dec 03 14:37:37 CoreDump|afk: cu Dec 03 14:37:44 CoreDump|afk: and I'm working on it now Dec 03 14:38:10 hrw, ossie should build now Dec 03 14:38:33 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r1ef9dd9f... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-ossie.bb): task-ossie : Fix so we build waveforms. Dec 03 14:38:36 Crofton: cool Dec 03 14:38:47 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rc430190e... 10/ (1 packages/ossie/ossie-sigproc_svn.bb): sigproc_svn.bb : Enable fixed point build. Dec 03 14:38:55 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r42f70ebe... 10/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Dec 03 14:38:55 ossie-* : Add generic username/pw for code fetching. Dec 03 14:38:55 iossie-tx-random-data_svn.bb : Fix waveform dependencies. Dec 03 14:39:13 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r82ba6ac5... 10/ (1 packages/ossie/ossie-usrp-tx-control_svn.bb): ossie-usrp-tx-control_svn.bb : Add waveform that transmits Random BPSK Dec 03 14:39:17 Crofton: time to fetch it then Dec 03 14:39:42 We were transmitting BPSK across the lab yesterday Dec 03 14:40:39 It almost works on the OSK, there is a bug in the USRP with USB1.1 though Dec 03 14:55:19 * koen notices http://www.fic.com.tw/product/pmp.aspx Dec 03 14:58:57 koen: The Cowon A2 is much better Dec 03 14:59:02 And it runs Linux Dec 03 14:59:12 I've got one right here Dec 03 14:59:15 that pmp also seems to run linux Dec 03 14:59:24 Aye Dec 03 14:59:28 it made me wonder if fic is going to open that as well Dec 03 14:59:41 It seems to be better, as far as hardware goes... Dec 03 14:59:49 Not sure about battery life and the like Dec 03 15:00:22 Even if they don't open it, the demonic minds of handhelds.org will find a way Dec 03 15:00:25 :) Dec 03 15:00:58 03Enodr 07org.oe.dev * r2b846c98... 10/ (1 packages/kf/files/gcc4.patch packages/kf/kf_0.5.4.1.bb): kf: patch to make it buildable with gcc4 - close #1523 Dec 03 15:01:17 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5353be39... 10/ (1 packages/opie-mediaplayer1/opie-mediaplayer1.inc): opie-mediaplayer1: added missing dependency on libqtaux2 Dec 03 15:03:08 cu Dec 03 15:38:00 ~seen zecke Dec 03 15:38:21 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 22h 37m 28s ago, saying: 'I'm away now :)'. Dec 03 15:52:05 ~seen woglinde Dec 03 15:52:17 woglinde was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 14m 16s ago, saying: '~seen zecke'. Dec 03 15:52:41 ~seen koen Dec 03 15:52:43 koen is currently on #oe (1d 7h 9m 42s) #openmoko (1d 7h 9m 42s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 38s, last said: '~seen woglinde'. Dec 03 15:57:46 good evening Dec 03 15:57:52 hey balle Dec 03 15:59:15 hey likewise, weekend work also? Dec 03 16:02:14 wuah just updating my monotone db. you guys did a lot of stuff since my last update :D Dec 03 16:09:06 hi gremlin[it] Dec 03 16:09:18 hi pb_ ! Dec 03 16:10:02 hm updating that much seems to take some time Dec 03 16:19:25 HopsNBarley: not really weekend work, but work and hobby tend to overlap too much :-) Dec 03 16:20:40 i completely understand (-; Dec 03 16:21:22 HopsNBarley: it's just that these hours are unpaid for, but that goes for much of the ppl here :-) Dec 03 16:22:01 same here. i'm just putting the finishing touches on our openprotium distribution for the storcenter. should be up today. Dec 03 16:32:54 HopsNBarley: How easily would you expect that distro to run on the ts-101? Dec 03 16:34:16 thats one of my next tasks... the storcenter is a good proof of concept for PPC, and a very economical platform. Dec 03 16:34:56 i guess it all depends on the kernel patches. i have some research to do there. i know there is a big gpl tarball on their site. Dec 03 16:35:16 but i've also seen that they run with a stock sandpoint config, which i doubt. Dec 03 16:36:48 HopsNBarley: their site? == iomega? Dec 03 16:36:59 qnap, sorry. Dec 03 16:37:23 HopsNBarley: I have asked for Freescale to release the sources for their officially approved toolchains (on bitshrine.org/gpp) Dec 03 16:37:51 HopsNBarley: The e300 one is now there (*src.rpm) Dec 03 16:37:53 re Dec 03 16:38:03 so far so good on gcc 4.1.1/glibc 2.5 on ppc603e. Dec 03 16:38:15 Jin^eLD: hi Dec 03 16:38:18 hey Dec 03 16:38:35 Jin^eLD is also doing some PPC work, right? Dec 03 16:39:28 Jin^eLD: are you? Jin^eLD is the UPnP master at least. Dec 03 16:39:46 PPC? uhm.. well, the only PPC work I did was porting my UPnP server to MacOS X on some old G4 :) Dec 03 16:40:17 and that was nothing really PPC-hardware related Dec 03 16:40:19 :> Dec 03 16:40:27 HopsNBarley: I am working on AMCC 405 Dec 03 16:40:51 we should make a who-does-what matrix :-) Dec 03 16:41:44 :) Dec 03 16:42:00 that would be incredibly handy! Dec 03 16:42:10 actually a good idea, then we could bother the right people with the right questions ) Dec 03 16:42:13 I second. Dec 03 16:43:03 but should it be publicly accessible, or not? Dec 03 16:43:28 I think it should Dec 03 16:44:32 Ifaistos, looks decent, what's your experience been like? Dec 03 16:47:32 HopsNBarley: i got uclibc 0.9.28/gcc 3.4.4 working a few months now. now glibc 2.3.5_svn + gcc 4.1.1 is working but uclibc is broken Dec 03 16:47:47 now-current OE Dec 03 16:47:53 now=current OE Dec 03 16:49:59 HopsNBarley: have a look at http://owmnr.digital-opsis.com Dec 03 16:57:25 anyone knows where i can get a copy of ppp-2.4.3.tar.gz. ftp.samba.org seems down a couple of days now Dec 03 16:59:33 Ifaistos: http://www.oesources.org/source/current/ Dec 03 17:01:05 http://aachen.uni-dsl.de/download/wrt/Snapshots/rev149/dl/ppp-2.4.3.tar.gz Dec 03 17:01:39 Thanks guys. Dec 03 17:01:52 hi mickeyl Dec 03 17:02:13 hey pb_! Dec 03 17:05:57 * mickeyl already booked Flight + Hotel for FOSDEM. earlybird this time Dec 03 17:11:18 we all in mickeyl suitcase then Dec 03 17:14:04 heh Dec 03 17:18:23 mickeyl, see pubkey in your inbox? Dec 03 17:18:44 HopsNBarley: yeah. will add it later tonite and reply. thanks Dec 03 17:18:57 excellent. thanks. Dec 03 17:19:45 hey mickeyl Dec 03 17:22:24 ~lart prism3 Dec 03 17:22:24 * ibot blasts prism3 with a huge firehose then strangles prism3 with it Dec 03 17:31:52 mickeyl: heh, very good Dec 03 17:32:08 what's the Team Opie official hotel this year? Dec 03 17:32:15 Astrid again! Dec 03 17:32:27 i liked it last year, especially our breakfast gathering Dec 03 17:33:00 although i'm afraid neither Zecke nor me qualify as members of Team Opie nowadays... Dec 03 17:33:38 crumbs. I guess there must be very few members then. Dec 03 17:33:51 I'll see if I can book myself into the Astrid as well Dec 03 17:33:57 pb_: that'd be cool. Dec 03 17:34:09 absolutely. lorn and the russian being the two most active guys atm. Dec 03 17:36:28 mickeyl: OE can get a number of 1U servers, so I guess we need to come up with a plan where to hook them up Dec 03 17:38:27 *nod* let's talk soon Dec 03 17:41:06 koen : progear/angstrom fails at angstrom-bootstrap-image at madwifi-ng -> http://pastebin.ca/265831 Dec 03 17:41:44 ah right, I have that patched out locally Dec 03 17:41:47 (madwifi) Dec 03 17:43:40 koen : You mean no madwifi drivers or a patch to fix it ? Dec 03 17:44:16 no madwifi driver Dec 03 17:50:17 koen : where is the madwifi mentioned. can't seem to find it Dec 03 17:51:52 koen : in sane_sources-dates.inc ? Dec 03 17:54:13 Ifaistos: wpa-supplicant Dec 03 18:34:29 who is involved in kdrive .. any contact here ? Dec 03 18:44:23 rob_w: I'm not involved, but did you find any error there? (kdrive behaves a bit... incorrectly for me. Although it might be driver what is wrong) Dec 03 18:52:41 mmp, no i was just curious to learn its insides .. reading code sometimes bores me Dec 03 18:52:56 rob_w: :) Dec 03 18:56:39 kewl the newest version of tor is still compiling with the old patches Dec 03 19:00:58 koen : Any idea why i get this ? ->http://pastebin.ca/265917 Dec 03 19:02:57 koen : it seems it needs git.csm Dec 03 19:05:31 Ifaistos: git is now in the required software Dec 03 19:06:20 Ifaistos: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/RequiredSoftware Dec 03 19:08:28 Ifaistos: hmm not sure to understand your problem though .. Dec 03 19:12:32 morning Dec 03 19:12:37 hi Dec 03 19:12:59 mickey|guests: I booked astrid already Dec 03 19:14:53 cyrilRomain : I am running ubuntu edgy and it seems it had git.transition selected and not git-csm Dec 03 19:15:13 cyrilRomain : fixed it and it continued Dec 03 19:15:32 Ifaistos: no idea what git.transition is Dec 03 19:15:42 Ifaistos: for me git == git-csm :) Dec 03 19:16:16 hi, all! Dec 03 19:17:02 will OE have versioned auttools for various packages to be built from SCMs like git svn or cvs? Dec 03 19:18:31 cyrilRomain : it looks like for debian this equation will be true after etch becomes the stable release. :) git=git filemanager for the moment Dec 03 19:19:30 Ifaistos: good to know, even though I do not plan to switch to ubuntu :) Dec 03 19:20:08 slapin_nb: I'm afraid not to understand your question. OE is already able to build package from tarball, svn , cvs, git, etc.. Dec 03 19:22:03 koen: madwifi-ng r1823 builds for progear Dec 03 19:23:11 cyrilRomain, imagine package without autotools-generated files, like no configure but configure.in(.ac) and you have to automake/autoconf it to be able to configure Dec 03 19:23:40 so it might require automake1.4, 1.5, 16, 1.8, 1.9 (that is my experience). Dec 03 19:24:02 koen: but updating of it in OE is not something which I would like to do (I do not use it) Dec 03 19:24:11 slapin_nb: ah ok. no idea then Dec 03 19:24:20 debian and others have special versioned packages for that like automake1.9 Dec 03 19:25:26 so any plans on creation of automake-native1.6 for example? Dec 03 19:38:36 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7f1d20f6... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): vmedit: update to 0.02 - close #162 Dec 03 19:52:47 letux stuff is at http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/letux/ now Dec 03 19:56:57 something interesting in it? Dec 03 19:57:24 haven't really looked at it Dec 03 19:57:36 psokolovsky volunteered to hack on it Dec 03 19:57:59 n30 config, blueprobe addon, tslib Dec 03 19:58:37 I suspect the rest it just directly editing the image Dec 03 19:58:44 frikkin rom cloners Dec 03 19:59:34 I left out the wince warez Dec 03 20:06:35 03Dan 07org.oe.dev * r45060139... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): boa: added php via cgi support, initscripts fixes for busybox - close #262 Dec 03 20:12:46 koen: #1634 is for you ;D Dec 03 20:15:02 Laibsch: ping? Dec 03 20:18:54 FSCK Dec 03 20:18:55 FSKC Dec 03 20:18:57 FSCK! Dec 03 20:19:10 all packages which I recently built LACK dependencies Dec 03 20:19:30 all hail objdump Dec 03 20:22:31 morning all Dec 03 20:22:39 hi RP Dec 03 20:22:44 morning Dec 03 20:23:33 hrw: in the .bb files? Dec 03 20:23:47 likewise: resulting packages Dec 03 20:23:57 hrw: yes, I just had the same error. Dec 03 20:24:10 solution? Dec 03 20:24:28 hrw: your rootfs /lib ends up empty? No solution yet, I updated to latest and am rebuilding now. Dec 03 20:24:44 hrw: I thought it was an error at my side. Dec 03 20:25:11 likewise: I do not build rootfses now Dec 03 20:25:38 hrw: ok, well that's how I found out. Dec 03 20:26:31 I wonder if this is the objdump issue XorA saw... Dec 03 20:26:55 likewise: Are you building on 64 bit? Dec 03 20:27:07 RP: both 32-bit and 64-bit in parallel as we speak. Dec 03 20:27:38 RP: I started using my 32-bit laptop to deal with 32/64-bit dependent errors.\ Dec 03 20:27:54 Ah, I think it was some new arm abi version causing problems iirc. I don't think XorA pushed the fix :-/ Dec 03 20:28:16 I'm building i686 on amd64 Dec 03 20:28:20 hi nicolasfr Dec 03 20:28:24 hi! Dec 03 20:28:32 ixp4xx/openslug on amd64 Dec 03 20:30:27 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rcfb319cb... 10/ (1 packages/beep/beep_1.2.2.bb): beep: Don't strip installed files Dec 03 20:31:17 Hmm, XorA did push that fix... Dec 03 20:33:13 Laibsch: are you interested in r/w access to OE? Dec 03 20:34:23 hmm at least out of box, looks like no way to run firewall on OZ 3.5.4.1 cause no filter modules for iptables in feeds... is that the case? thx Dec 03 20:34:39 yes it is Dec 03 20:35:19 bummer thx, i guess i will have to pull get source sooner than i planned then eheh. Dec 03 20:36:18 03Rolf 07org.oe.dev * r9ddee6d3... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): uim: update to 1.2.1 - close #1636 Dec 03 20:37:27 any idea what the angstrom image size is ? ball park figure Dec 03 20:38:29 depends on machine features Dec 03 20:38:44 -rw-r--r-- 1 hrw hrw 8126464 2006-11-27 11:29 Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061127-progear.rootfs.jffs2 Dec 03 20:38:47 -rw-r--r-- 1 hrw hrw 24379392 2006-11-27 16:41 Angstrom-xfce-image-test-20061127-progear.rootfs.jffs2 Dec 03 20:43:02 27 bugs fixed during last week Dec 03 20:43:29 03Enodr 07org.oe.dev * r3880caff... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): python-pyiw: added 0.3.2 - close #1635 Dec 03 20:51:25 hrw, RP, likewise: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=1fb8812d36f505cfabe9ee2335441ada60e32f83 Dec 03 20:52:44 export OBJDUMP="i686-angstrom-linux-objdump" Dec 03 20:52:50 here Dec 03 20:53:10 and tmp/cross/bin/i686-angstrom-linux-objdump is working Dec 03 21:00:47 hehe, after python libiw bindings here are python wpactrl bindings ;) Dec 03 21:01:05 python is ... great ! Dec 03 21:04:16 recipe posted on bugtracker Dec 03 21:06:00 nicolasfr: next time submit both as separate bugs with linking Dec 03 21:08:21 koen: thanks, investigated Dec 03 21:08:21 s/investigated/investigating Dec 03 21:08:33 In XorA's case it would recognize arm binaries, but not armv4t binaries Dec 03 21:09:18 nicolasfr: I would not use 'ml' in PR Dec 03 21:09:20 koen: yes, I understand objdump from the cross-compiler toolchain must be used. Dec 03 21:11:20 koen Dec 03 21:11:29 hey anushsh Dec 03 21:11:39 koen how are you Dec 03 21:12:42 pretty good, and you? Dec 03 21:13:12 hrw: oops, ml comes from a cut'n'paste Dec 03 21:13:35 ;) Dec 03 21:13:43 03Enodr 07org.oe.dev * r77ff2b87... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): python-pywpa: added 0.3.4 - close #1639 Dec 03 21:14:21 hrw: what do you mean "submit both as separate bugs with linking"? Dec 03 21:14:33 30 bugs found Dec 03 21:15:31 nicolasfr: you add one bug, second and mark second as depending on first (if they have such dep) Dec 03 21:16:29 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd63f932f... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): apr, apr-util: unfetchable, bump versions Dec 03 21:17:03 RP: close proper bug Dec 03 21:18:22 hrw: I was thinking about it whenever I came here to say "somebody please push obvious bug fix XY", but then again, I do not want to be responsible for trashing OE ;-) Dec 03 21:18:32 hrw: I mean, it would be an honour. Dec 03 21:18:52 hrw: But that is not up to me to decide. Dec 03 21:18:53 hrw: ? Dec 03 21:18:53 31 bugs closed Dec 03 21:19:18 RP: #1607 was '[OBSOLETE] apr 1.1.1 is 1.5 year old' - I just closed it Dec 03 21:19:40 hrw: I didn't know it was a bug :} Dec 03 21:19:59 Laibsch: you always can limit yourself into cjkv parts which no one else touch ;d Dec 03 21:20:05 RP: ;) Dec 03 21:20:45 hrw: I guess that is somewhat of an idea ;-) Dec 03 21:21:35 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8f25eeb3... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gcc: Remove PACKAGE_ARCH settings now handled by changes to cross.bbclass Dec 03 21:21:44 koen, RP, mickey|guests: what do you think about giving r/w for Laibsch? Dec 03 21:21:51 fine by me Dec 03 21:23:04 I'm ok with that as long as you stick to bits of the tree you know well, at least at first ;-) Dec 03 21:24:50 for me it is ok - if you will want to change something outside your maintained part then show it first for review and discussion Dec 03 21:29:30 is openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org the right list these days? Dec 03 21:29:52 (for OE feature RFCs, for instance) Dec 03 21:30:04 it is Dec 03 21:30:28 it seems to have been very quiet since I finally got around to resubscribing a couple of days ago Dec 03 21:30:35 I guess that's just US thanksgiving. Dec 03 21:31:25 never mind, I just hadn't updated my procmailrc to send it to the right folder :-) Dec 03 21:31:30 ;) Dec 03 21:31:53 rwhitby: I don't think there's been much traffic there in the past few days Dec 03 21:31:56 ok, I'll start using that list for RFCs for how to migrate the major slugos features to angstrom Dec 03 21:32:22 (e.g. sysconf, ixp4xx image creation, etc) Dec 03 21:32:26 I guess I should act on part two of the STAGING_BINDIR RFC I wrote a while back... Dec 03 21:32:56 (apex as second-stage bootloader for boxes with brain-dead bootloaders that you don't want to risk reflashing ...) Dec 03 21:32:58 fsck.. I forgot about KERNELORG_MIRROR... Dec 03 21:33:04 back later Dec 03 21:33:20 * RP just built both an e-image and a slugos-image... Dec 03 21:34:13 hrw: could you push that mirror.bbclass? Dec 03 21:34:40 have to dig it first Dec 03 21:34:47 or recreate. Dec 03 21:35:03 hrw, koen: Any thoughts on when I should push the next round of STAGING_BINDIR changes? Dec 03 21:35:52 RP: truely speaking - I did not thought about it Dec 03 21:36:30 Also, any thoughts on when we should rename IPKG_INSTALL? (and what too? PACKAGE_INSTALL in poky doesn't seem quite right, maybe it should be IMAGE_PACKAGES?) Dec 03 21:36:44 FSCK. I just commited without '.' Dec 03 21:37:03 ouch Dec 03 21:37:20 :q in the commit message Dec 03 21:37:42 koen: mtn commit -m"hsighsdgs" Dec 03 21:40:50 RP, likewise: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/cairo/ipaq-h2200-perf-diff-20061122-20061203.txt Dec 03 21:41:12 keon: yup, saw it on cairo ml. Dec 03 21:41:25 this is the diff :) Dec 03 21:41:36 koen: ah yes, 23:06 :-) Dec 03 21:42:13 koen: what exactly was the 11-22 date release? 1.3.2? Dec 03 21:42:21 yes Dec 03 21:42:34 just before lround and stuff hit Dec 03 21:42:34 gerwinin: hi Dec 03 21:42:40 crap, we need 2.17.50.0.5 in OE Dec 03 21:42:41 Likewise:hi Dec 03 21:42:48 Koen: hi :) Dec 03 21:42:55 ok, nice. I didn't test 1.3.4 yet on performance. Dec 03 21:43:12 hey gerwinin Dec 03 21:43:23 Koen: I fixed the resolution problem :) Dec 03 21:43:24 likewise: cairo has a --disable-some-floating-points now Dec 03 21:43:25 koen: shit, another toolchain updatE? Dec 03 21:43:44 hrw: yeah, a patch to gcc and an update to binutils Dec 03 21:43:59 gerwinin: had a another fruitful t-dose day? Dec 03 21:44:01 I love it.. Dec 03 21:44:13 the patch fixes an ICE and you need the newer binutils to be able to link using the patched gcc Dec 03 21:44:20 Likewise: yeah it was very nice met very interesting people Dec 03 21:44:22 this machine spend more time on toolchain then on rest Dec 03 21:45:19 ah, we already have .5 Dec 03 21:45:32 I need search capability in the GNOME terminal... Dec 03 21:47:07 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9e9acfe1... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pyzeroconf_0.12.bb): python-pyzeroconf: added 0.12 from #1565 Dec 03 21:47:12 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r78b224de... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pythondaap_0.4.bb): python-pythondaap: added 0.4 from #1565 Dec 03 21:47:29 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1669749c... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pyzeroconf_0.12.bb): python-pyzeroconf: cleaned Dec 03 21:48:21 hrw: could you fix the objdump issue? I am still debugging it. Dec 03 21:48:43 likewise: not today - its 23:13 and I need to sleep Dec 03 21:48:48 hrw: k Dec 03 21:49:12 hrw: have a good nite's rest then. Dec 03 21:50:11 fsck... I lost my local changes.. Dec 03 21:50:32 looks like it time to use org.openembedded.hrw for local stuff or bbcollections Dec 03 21:50:38 cu Dec 03 21:56:34 koen: (how) can I force running a package task? Dec 03 21:57:02 bitbake -b foo.bb -c task -f Dec 03 21:57:16 task=package? Dec 03 21:58:14 sh: armeb-linux-objdump: command not found Dec 03 21:58:17 gotcha Dec 03 21:59:26 likewise: force install, then built the package without a task specified so it runs package and package_write Dec 03 22:00:23 RP: thanks, I was in bitbake interactive mode where I do not how to do that. CLI approach works though. Dec 03 22:40:56 rwhitby: wb Dec 03 22:41:44 thx Dec 03 22:43:13 likewise: objdump issue? Dec 03 22:44:37 XorA|gon1: sh: armeb-linux-objdump: command not found Dec 03 22:44:49 HOST_PREFIX seems undefined during packaging. Dec 03 22:45:46 likewise: that looks like it worked, but you dont have a armed-linux-objdump Dec 03 22:45:50 'night everyone Dec 03 22:46:21 Likewise: I see that binutils is update again Dec 03 22:46:22 night Jin Dec 03 22:46:30 likewise: ls tmp/staging/cross/bin/*objdump Dec 03 22:46:40 XorA: it's there Dec 03 22:47:33 XorA: Erhm, not /staging/! ls -ald tmp/cross/bin/*objdump Dec 03 22:47:44 -rwxr-xr-x 2 leon leon 747604 2006-12-03 23:56 tmp/cross/bin/armeb-linux-objdump Dec 03 22:47:48 likewise: sorry added an extra crap in there Dec 03 22:48:03 likewise: wierd how it works here Dec 03 22:48:17 ok, but it's there. I noticed that HOST_PREFIX is set to BUILD_PREFIX. Maybe in my case this happens too late. Dec 03 22:48:25 likewise: almost as though tmp/cross/bin got eaten from your PATH Dec 03 22:48:38 Yes, that would be another option. Dec 03 22:48:44 likewise: but your error says it looked for armeb-linux-objdump Dec 03 22:48:53 XorA: hrw had the same, just an our ago. Dec 03 22:48:59 likewise: armed-linux- == ${HOST_PREFIX} Dec 03 22:49:07 s/d/b Dec 03 22:49:16 XorA: ah,ok. no absolute path there. Understand. Dec 03 22:49:28 so the path must have been eaten indeed. Dec 03 22:49:48 likewise: I wonder if something inside the .bb squashes $PATH accidently Dec 03 22:50:17 likewise: as I still see occasional random fail, but when I bitbake -b blah.bb -c clean ; bitbake -b blah.bb it works Dec 03 22:50:59 likewise: it took me 2.5 days to work out why /lib was empty, I cant afford that time at work :-( Dec 03 22:51:55 XorA: the strange thing is, with me and hrw, with a OE snapshot of a few hours old, we also ran into an empty /lib rootfs (me) or no Depends in the Packages file (me and hrw). Dec 03 22:52:06 hrw didn't make a rootfs Dec 03 22:52:31 XorA: yes, I need to get myself to work towards a stable branch Dec 03 22:53:01 XorA: the OE frame work is fluxing to much (which is good for OE, bad for me :-) Dec 03 22:53:04 likewise: in pachage.bbclass I just started printing the return from objdump, the objdump command actually run, and the info extracted and ran bitbake -DDD and followed through Dec 03 22:53:27 reminds me, have to build an smdk2440 image Dec 03 22:53:50 likewise: of cource, it could be that binutils we use is buggy? Dec 03 22:55:02 XorA: hmm, yes,could be Dec 03 22:56:22 likewise: thouigh quick squiz at bugtracker and I cant see anything Dec 03 22:59:13 XorA: will continue checking tomorrow. Your patch by itself seems fine (i.e. we need the cross objdump to find the NEEDED deps). Dec 03 23:00:41 likewise: yeah, without that patch I was stuffed Dec 03 23:02:33 ~lart toolchains Dec 03 23:02:34 * ibot gives toolchains a good seeing to Dec 03 23:13:42 time to sleep Dec 03 23:15:16 nicolasfr: You still there by chance? Dec 03 23:26:27 good night all Dec 03 23:45:48 'night all **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 04 02:59:57 2006