**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 20 02:59:57 2006 Dec 20 03:01:41 VoodooZ: angstrom is LE Dec 20 03:08:04 rwhitby: thanks. that I didn't know. Dec 20 03:08:41 night Dec 20 06:43:37 hi all Dec 20 06:44:44 i have choosen the openembedded to make an embedded system withe the motherboard kontron (i486 x86) Dec 20 06:45:07 how i do to include the mother board driver ? Dec 20 06:54:36 disaster : Hi! What do you mean by mother board driver ? Dec 20 07:10:24 the driver for the ethernet, sound ... Dec 20 07:20:44 disaster : In OE you need to define a "machine" which in turn defines the kernel to be used etc Dec 20 07:23:24 for include the package, i must used the specifical package for oe ? Dec 20 07:28:40 disaster : Basicaly what you do is define a distro, which in turn defines all the packages that need to be included + the packages that are machine specific Dec 20 07:29:24 disaster : it looks a bit complicated at the begging :) but actually it very straight forward Dec 20 07:30:17 disaster : Have a look at this -> http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/12/12/how-to-use-task-base/ Dec 20 07:33:37 http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton/sdio/welcome-to-SDIO-linux Dec 20 07:35:49 koen : morning Dec 20 07:35:57 hey Ifaistos Dec 20 07:36:43 koen : i registered under a different email as i could not receive any emails neither from the dev's nor the commit list Dec 20 07:37:00 koen : should i get a confirmation email or not for the new email Dec 20 08:18:39 koen : got uclibc_0.9.28-svn and busybox 1.2.1 to compile for efika Dec 20 08:50:44 /nick hrw|work Dec 20 08:50:45 morning Dec 20 08:51:00 hey hrw|work Dec 20 08:51:49 hey XorA & hrw|work Dec 20 09:05:31 hey do13_ Dec 20 09:05:32 morning all Dec 20 09:05:52 hi Dirk Dec 20 09:06:11 hey Marcin, XorA Dec 20 09:08:08 hey Dirk Dec 20 09:08:38 hi koen Dec 20 09:51:05 i Dec 20 09:51:07 hi Dec 20 09:54:15 <[lala]> hi guys Dec 20 09:54:25 hi Dec 20 09:54:49 <[lala]> koen: u around? Dec 20 09:54:55 itts difficult to creat an embbedded system with oe ? Dec 20 09:57:50 disaster: no Dec 20 10:01:30 because i have not create the embedded system Dec 20 10:02:02 good morning Dec 20 10:02:28 how you do ? do you work with bitbake or bitkeeper ? Dec 20 10:06:41 hmmm it seems that rm_work.bbclass fails with the kernel build Dec 20 10:07:15 http://pastebin.ca/286096 Dec 20 10:07:57 [lala]: yes Dec 20 10:08:27 <[lala]> koen: how well is the nokia 770 supported in oe nowadays? Dec 20 10:09:32 disaster: I try to build some stuff for my own use with bitbake Dec 20 10:10:06 [lala]: haven't tried to boot an image, try asking florian_kc Dec 20 10:10:39 <[lala]> koen: is the oe-image based on maemo or is it gpe? Dec 20 10:11:01 <[lala]> which image are u using atm? Dec 20 10:11:05 [lala]: that's a stupid question Dec 20 10:11:49 <[lala]> because? Dec 20 10:13:21 <[lala]> my last understanding was, that maemo is the sdk provided by nokia and was missing some essential parts for a whole image Dec 20 10:14:02 <[lala]> please enlighten me :-) Dec 20 10:15:37 Ifaistos: rm_work is tricky Dec 20 10:18:47 hrw|work : Shouldn't the removal of the unwanted stuff be after all the proceccing has finished i.e after packaging Dec 20 10:19:08 Ifaistos: your build failed on do_deploy? Dec 20 10:19:43 hrw|work : hmmm yes Dec 20 10:20:14 Ifaistos: workaround is adding empty do_rm_work() Dec 20 10:21:30 hrw|work : if we changed -> addtask rm_work after do_populate_staging to -> addtask rm_work after do_deploy ? Dec 20 10:26:18 how do I rebuild the kernel modules so that the ones related to the new kernel version are included in my rootfs (without rebuilding the whole stuff) ? Dec 20 10:27:34 Ifaistos: most of recipes do not have do_deploy Dec 20 10:28:43 re Dec 20 10:29:03 koen: do you want to add bluez-trolltech to OE? Dec 20 10:31:35 hrw|work : is there a way to check for that from within the bbclass ? Dec 20 10:33:16 to create an system, in the first time i must install python & bitbake & monotone, ipkg-utils Dec 20 10:34:28 then i have run mtn co --db =/.../OE.mtn --branch org.openembbeded. Dec 20 10:34:40 oz354x Dec 20 10:34:42 zecke: hell no Dec 20 10:34:57 this step it's good ? Dec 20 10:35:02 disaster: no Dec 20 10:35:10 disaster: you don't need ipkg-utils Dec 20 10:35:20 disaster: and it's org.openembedded.dev Dec 20 10:37:26 disaster: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Dec 20 10:37:37 kk i run now Dec 20 10:42:31 i 'm in the uit and all port is block exepted 80 Dec 20 10:42:46 how i do to use mtn Dec 20 10:42:55 because the connection is refused Dec 20 10:44:48 any idea ? Dec 20 10:46:28 disaster: read http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Dec 20 10:54:31 yes i have read this page but i don't find how i resolv my problem Dec 20 10:55:09 because when i run the mnt cmd, i have an connection refused because the port is blocked Dec 20 10:55:25 koen: http://dunc-bank.zoy.org/ do we need for angstrom as well? Dec 20 10:55:39 disaster: yes, then call your firewall operator :) Dec 20 10:55:43 disaster, do you have a firewall somehwere? Dec 20 10:56:04 i am in the network of University Dec 20 10:56:20 only the port 80 is opened Dec 20 10:56:32 i don't config the firewall Dec 20 10:57:04 disaster: well, then grab a copy of our MTN DB or create a tunnel somewhere Dec 20 10:57:31 Is there a good web page anywhere on tunneling monotone? Dec 20 10:57:34 it' s possible to download the openembedded.dev throught a http link ? Dec 20 10:57:49 yes, there is a snapshot of the db available Dec 20 10:58:32 zecke: cute Dec 20 10:59:13 zecke: hi, I told You qtopia/gpl came out :) Dec 20 10:59:15 disaster, on the getting started page there are instructions for gettiing the db via http Dec 20 10:59:54 should we update getting started to say monotone 0.31? Dec 20 11:00:17 i used 0.31-3 Dec 20 11:00:26 I use 31 also Dec 20 11:00:38 we have OE.mtn Dec 20 11:00:44 ok Dec 20 11:00:48 mickey|tv: may I abuse your telephone number and give you a call? Dec 20 11:00:56 then you have the OE data Dec 20 11:01:05 just use that to get started Dec 20 11:01:16 skip the pull Dec 20 11:01:45 all that does is get updates since the snapshot was made Dec 20 11:02:07 what is the command line to skip pull ? Dec 20 11:02:17 please Dec 20 11:02:49 if i delete the pull in the command i have an error Dec 20 11:03:37 do not do the entire command Dec 20 11:03:49 proceed directly to the checkout command Dec 20 11:04:25 mtn --db=/home/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org Dec 20 11:04:31 i skip this command ? Dec 20 11:04:36 exactly Dec 20 11:05:13 do the checkout command Dec 20 11:05:58 thx very good Dec 20 11:06:10 disaster, good luck Dec 20 11:06:17 thx Dec 20 11:06:29 if you get along well with oe, you will need to figure out how to pull Dec 20 11:06:50 what hw are you using? Dec 20 11:07:16 do you speek fr Dec 20 11:07:24 sorry no Dec 20 11:07:27 okey Dec 20 11:07:38 what "hw" Dec 20 11:07:44 ah Dec 20 11:07:48 it's the application of oe Dec 20 11:07:50 harware/machine Dec 20 11:08:00 hardware Dec 20 11:08:10 device Dec 20 11:08:32 mother board is kontron Dec 20 11:08:42 ok Dec 20 11:08:42 E3 panel Dec 20 11:08:50 proc VIA x86 Dec 20 11:09:38 we will *do a embedded system wich is used VLC to see som movie Dec 20 11:09:50 ok Dec 20 11:09:50 cool Dec 20 11:09:53 by the ethernet ' streaming) Dec 20 11:10:06 my english is bad sorry Dec 20 11:10:16 better then my french :) Dec 20 11:10:23 oo Dec 20 11:10:23 lol Dec 20 11:11:33 it's difficult to make this project you think ? Dec 20 11:11:58 disaster: via epia board? Dec 20 11:12:01 I don't think so Dec 20 11:12:23 disaster: MACHINE="epia" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" and start build Dec 20 11:12:23 RP: ping? Dec 20 11:13:21 http://fr.kontron.com/index.php?id=226&cat=65&productid=304 Dec 20 11:13:57 this is my mother board Dec 20 11:14:12 we don't need all the packages Dec 20 11:14:43 we did a list of own packages Dec 20 11:14:43 disaster setup local.conf as hrw suggested and build bootstrap-image Dec 20 11:14:48 that will give you a small image Dec 20 11:14:59 okey Dec 20 11:15:15 once you get that working, we can talk about adding extra packages to the image Dec 20 11:17:04 okey Dec 20 11:17:16 I have a new kernel recipe, it builds well, the modules are built, however they are not deployed (as ipk or in local roots) ... How can I deplay them ? What is the magic command ? Dec 20 11:17:38 but we need to make a very small disrib Dec 20 11:18:04 vlc, suspend,bootsplash,x11,.. Dec 20 11:18:09 nice board Dec 20 11:18:28 disaster, your definitiion of small is different to mine :) Dec 20 11:18:32 disaster: small as 8M? 32M? Dec 20 11:18:36 I only have 32M of flash Dec 20 11:18:39 lol Dec 20 11:18:51 2M? Dec 20 11:18:51 512 mo on compact flash Dec 20 11:18:55 lol Dec 20 11:18:57 hahahaha Dec 20 11:18:58 sorry Dec 20 11:18:59 disaster: here 'small' mean small Dec 20 11:19:03 512M is BIG Dec 20 11:19:04 huge distro :) Dec 20 11:19:09 I can setup Debian on 512M Dec 20 11:19:15 lol Dec 20 11:19:30 iirc gerwinin has vlc working on epi Dec 20 11:19:31 a Dec 20 11:19:35 ~seen gerwinin Dec 20 11:19:46 disaster: My chroot environment is 79M and allow me to build misc software Dec 20 11:19:46 disaster get bootstrap-image going (I doubt it will have display support) Dec 20 11:19:52 then start adding packages Dec 20 11:19:55 gerwinin was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 21h 4m 56s ago, saying: 'Koen: cool'. Dec 20 11:20:34 we need of a extra speed boot Dec 20 11:20:54 smaller = speed Dec 20 11:23:34 it is matter of amount of services to be faster Dec 20 11:23:54 14M filesystem can boot slower then 256M filesystem Dec 20 11:26:23 have you an sample of your local.conf Dec 20 11:26:30 please past in pastedin ? Dec 20 11:27:10 target_arch="x86" i supose ? Dec 20 11:27:42 disaster: MACHINE="epia" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" and start build Dec 20 11:27:46 :) Dec 20 11:28:01 those should contatin the arch Dec 20 11:28:22 look in org.openembedded/conf/machine/epia Dec 20 11:28:43 and look in org.openembedded/conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1 Dec 20 11:32:08 sup Dec 20 11:32:29 k Dec 20 11:32:33 i look now Dec 20 11:34:59 i look that the angstrom-2007.1 is for arm architecture also the via is x86 ? Dec 20 11:35:22 but Dec 20 11:35:54 problem or it's me Dec 20 11:36:47 it should also work for x86 Dec 20 11:37:06 the machine will tell the distro about the hardware Dec 20 11:37:13 it works on hrw's x86 and my x86 hardware Dec 20 11:38:47 kk Dec 20 11:39:09 to start make what is a command ? Dec 20 11:39:23 bitbake nano ? Dec 20 11:39:37 it's for the packge "nano" ? Dec 20 11:39:49 how build all the package Dec 20 11:40:12 disaster do "bitbake boostrap-imge" first Dec 20 11:40:51 hrw, koen is there a better first target than boostrap-image or angstrom? Dec 20 11:41:01 and disaster's hw? Dec 20 11:41:38 bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image Dec 20 11:41:58 heh Dec 20 11:42:09 will that include X? Dec 20 11:42:33 yes Dec 20 11:43:27 disaster build something and see what happens Dec 20 11:43:36 Crofton: no, but it's the best starting point Dec 20 11:44:00 ok Dec 20 11:44:20 i have an error Dec 20 11:44:24 heh Dec 20 11:44:29 which one? Dec 20 11:45:07 the line ... BBFILES Dec 20 11:45:21 i must commant this line ? Dec 20 11:45:28 did you go the local.conf setup carefully? Dec 20 11:45:40 and did you set BBPATH env var properly Dec 20 11:48:40 i must install makeinfo,cvs,git Dec 20 11:50:10 there is an debian package fo makeinfo ? Dec 20 11:52:58 disaster: texinfo Dec 20 11:55:04 required the bitbake 1.6.2 and not the 1.6.0 Dec 20 11:55:27 i go eat now it' 1h30 pm Dec 20 11:55:41 i'm very hungry Dec 20 11:56:09 back on board on 2h30 pm Dec 20 11:56:10 you are really french :) Dec 20 11:56:13 ciao Dec 20 11:56:19 yeah Dec 20 11:56:29 and yoyu Dec 20 11:56:36 you Dec 20 11:56:43 US ? Dec 20 11:56:44 no, a german Dec 20 11:56:53 I ma US Dec 20 11:57:07 oh a neighboors Dec 20 11:57:23 a far neighboors Dec 20 11:57:30 bb Dec 20 11:57:32 we are all neighbors Dec 20 11:57:39 yes Dec 20 11:57:42 bb Dec 20 11:57:58 Last night I updated my OE files and tried to rebuild my image.. the build errored out when trying to build portmap with the following error: strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file I'm debugging it but wondered if anyone else has run into this yet? Dec 20 11:59:07 Gerrath: make sure make install is not doing an install -s Dec 20 11:59:14 Gerrath: as that calls the wrong strip Dec 20 12:00:48 XorA, does not look like it is: do_install() { Dec 20 12:00:48 install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d Dec 20 12:00:48 install -m 0755 ${WORKDIR}/portmap.init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/portmap Dec 20 12:00:48 oe_runmake 'docdir=${docdir}/portmap' \ Dec 20 12:00:48 'DESTDIR=${D}' install Dec 20 12:00:49 } Dec 20 12:03:53 Gerrath: the makefile, not the .bb Dec 20 12:04:06 XorA, opps sorry. Dec 20 12:05:09 XorA, it is using a -s there, there are several lines very simular to this: install -m 0755 -s portmap ${DESTDIR}/sbin Dec 20 12:05:47 XorA, ok so I should write a patch to remove the -s correct? Dec 20 12:06:22 Gerrath: yes, as OE does the strip itself Dec 20 12:06:24 yes Dec 20 12:06:48 ok, I'll write it and submit it to bugtracker. Dec 20 12:07:33 Gerrath: hm. portmap 5-24? Dec 20 12:07:39 hrw|work, yes. Dec 20 12:08:21 ~lart me then Dec 20 12:08:21 * ibot_ tries to shut me then up Dec 20 12:08:21 I built it in i686 chroot for i686... Dec 20 12:12:18 XorA, just to be clear: I would leave the line install -m 0755 -s portmap ${DESTDIR}/sbin but just remove the -s correct? or do I remove the entire line? Dec 20 12:14:23 Gerrath: only the '-s' Dec 20 12:14:31 koen, ok, thats what I thought.. Dec 20 12:16:24 like what kOEn says Dec 20 12:17:02 hum, I still haven't found the way (which package I have to rebuild) to deploy the new version of my kernel modules in my rootfs. Someone knows ? Dec 20 12:18:15 uhm, there is already a patch called make.patch in portmap that should fix this issue.. I wonder why it did not get applied.. It is in the bb file. Dec 20 12:19:31 ah, there is a seperate make.patch for portmap version 5_25 and it has -s in the install lines.. Dec 20 12:20:49 Gerrath: delete them from the patch and re-aplly :-) Dec 20 12:21:04 * XorA loves that patches can be edited by hand Dec 20 12:25:27 alter table lang_words change text text text; Dec 20 12:31:20 XorA, will do. Dec 20 12:34:00 portmap now builds with no errors.. I'll submit my patch right now. Dec 20 12:37:32 now if only OE would play an animation of a stripper while stripping Dec 20 12:37:46 ok it is submitted: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1702 Dec 20 12:37:57 XorA, LoL, that would be a nice feature. Dec 20 12:39:29 XorA : :) Dec 20 12:39:52 XorA: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/right_hand_rule.png Dec 20 12:40:15 XorA, an ascii stripper would be a pretty funny thing. Dec 20 12:40:39 hi all Dec 20 12:40:45 hey florian_kc Dec 20 12:44:23 koen: :-) Dec 20 12:44:27 florian_kc: morning Dec 20 12:49:24 re Dec 20 12:57:56 it's necessessary to uninstall bitbake 1.6.0 to install bitbake 1.6.2 Dec 20 12:57:58 ? Dec 20 12:59:46 apparently it is possible to write worse php code than I produce Dec 20 12:59:52 ~lart exohelpdesk Dec 20 12:59:53 * ibot_ steals exohelpdesk's mojo Dec 20 13:00:18 koen: really? Dec 20 13:00:24 yes Dec 20 13:02:01 /ALL COMMENTS ARE UPPERCASE AS WELL, WHICH IS REALLY PLEASANT TO THE EYE Dec 20 13:03:31 * koen wonders how to explain 'vulnarable to sql injection' to layman Dec 20 13:03:54 hey mickeyl Dec 20 13:04:58 cheers guys Dec 20 13:05:50 hey mickeyl Dec 20 13:05:54 yo do13 Dec 20 13:05:56 how are things? Dec 20 13:06:21 do13: i have already booked flights. Dec 20 13:06:28 do13: let me tell you the flight numbers: Dec 20 13:06:32 good Dec 20 13:07:40 Fr32, 17:25 LH 4586 Dec 20 13:07:59 (sorry, 23th, not 32th) Dec 20 13:07:59 Mo26, 14:15 LH4577 Dec 20 13:08:24 took monday back because we have to clean our booth and i wanted to avoid the stress Dec 20 13:08:57 s/avoid the stress/buy beer/ Dec 20 13:09:27 thx. Friday is fine, but I have to depart sunday Dec 20 13:09:48 do13_: when you arrive in Friday? Dec 20 13:10:16 hrw|work: I'll try to book mickeyls flight Dec 20 13:10:40 ah Dec 20 13:10:58 * hrw|work will be ~21:15 Dec 20 13:11:00 hrw|work: same airport Dec 20 13:11:11 a;) Dec 20 13:11:18 that explain everything Dec 20 13:15:48 meh Dec 20 13:15:55 I'm in hell Dec 20 13:16:05 ? redmond? Dec 20 13:16:17 coding php and all the patches are in *forum posts* Dec 20 13:16:44 serve you right for choosing php I suppose... Dec 20 13:16:47 the bright side is that I won't be subjected to the actual users till januari Dec 20 13:17:07 blaster8: I didn't choose php.... Dec 20 13:17:31 as usual :) Dec 20 13:19:40 Im sure there is a python-php out there somewhere :-) Dec 20 13:20:01 I always wanted a forums->nntp gateway Dec 20 13:20:05 I thought that would rock Dec 20 13:20:21 XorA: opensolaris has the reverse Dec 20 13:20:22 03Shane 07org.oe.dev * r2601e7ef... 10/ (1 packages/portmap/portmap-5-24/make.patch): portmap: do not use strip - close #1702 Dec 20 13:20:37 XorA: their 'archive' looks like a forum Dec 20 13:28:33 my efika just arrived :) Dec 20 13:32:58 i have installed bitbake-1.6.2 Dec 20 13:33:08 now i have an error Dec 20 13:33:30 no files to build when i run bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image Dec 20 13:34:44 * XorA thinks there should be a new rule on #oe, no-one is allowed new toys without buying XorA one as well :-) Dec 20 13:35:06 Ifaistos: yay! Dec 20 13:36:43 what is the error? Dec 20 13:37:26 Error : no files to build Dec 20 13:38:14 BBFILES in local.conf is almost certainly wrong Dec 20 13:38:45 XorA: But who'd agree with that? :) Dec 20 13:38:51 i have commant the line BBFILES in the local.conf Dec 20 13:39:05 Well, apart from yourself at least ;) Dec 20 13:39:33 it's the problem i think Dec 20 13:39:39 disaster: yes Dec 20 13:39:50 BBFILES := "${HOME}/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" Dec 20 13:39:56 is what I have in local.conf Dec 20 13:40:19 bbl Dec 20 13:41:08 i test now Dec 20 13:42:07 koen : Have you put a vga on the board ? which one ? Dec 20 13:42:21 ati radeon 9250 Dec 20 13:42:39 agp doesn't seem to work, but X does 1600x1200 on my lcd Dec 20 13:43:01 koen : so its pci not agp ? Dec 20 13:43:18 Ifaistos: I'm not really sure Dec 20 13:44:01 koen : i'll play with it a bit later... its lunch time now :) Dec 20 13:45:29 i have enter BBFILES:="/home/.../packages/*/*.bb" Dec 20 13:45:37 the same error Dec 20 13:45:43 no files to build Dec 20 13:45:48 koen, Ifaistos: its probably agp-over-pci thing which bPlan did in previous ppc machines Dec 20 13:46:19 thing like 'chipset does not have agp but users want agp because lack cash for pci gfx cards' Dec 20 13:46:24 i think we don't have "sources " for the DL_DIR Dec 20 13:46:31 hrw|work: it looks like it Dec 20 13:46:53 hrw|work: agpgart loads, but X (in debian) says it isn't agp and disable DRM/DRI Dec 20 13:47:01 koen: there were long discussions about it years ago when Pegasos was released Dec 20 13:47:03 hrw|work: as far as I know an AGP slot comes up as PCI until the chipset driver changes its mode Dec 20 13:47:30 XorA: agp slot is expansion of pci 32bit Dec 20 13:47:42 just faster clocked Dec 20 13:48:02 hrw|work: with some magic on adress data buses to interleave move info in one cycle Dec 20 13:48:55 what idiot tied dri to agp :-( Dec 20 13:49:26 XorA: dri initialize, but I think X has weird assumptions Dec 20 13:49:39 koen: broken assumptions :-( Dec 20 13:49:47 indeed Dec 20 13:49:54 koen: I have a PCI Matrox card that has an AGP bridge on it Dec 20 13:50:19 cute Dec 20 13:50:30 koen: and I used to have a few PCI gfx cards that were all DRI capable Dec 20 13:50:33 my matrox refused to work in the pci slot in the efika Dec 20 13:50:58 koen: doing it that way matrox only need to design one gfx chips and use off shelf bridge chip Dec 20 13:51:02 DL_DIR = "/home/stuff/sources" Dec 20 13:51:23 it's normally if this folder is void Dec 20 13:51:24 XorA: "pretty pictures on screen" was enought for me :) Dec 20 13:51:46 XorA: I'm assuming someone else will figure out how to get (AI)GLX working Dec 20 13:52:10 koen: :-D Dec 20 13:52:23 koen: 1600x1200 is enough for HDTV pr0n Dec 20 13:52:37 not for 1080i Dec 20 13:54:29 no idea ? please Dec 20 13:55:17 disaster: DL_DIR can point to anywhere you want Dec 20 13:55:53 this folder is not important ? Dec 20 13:56:06 no files in this folder Dec 20 13:56:12 normally Dec 20 13:56:15 disaster: bitbake will store archives there Dec 20 13:56:31 after make ? Dec 20 13:56:32 hum, I cannot write on my nfsroot although it is well rw on both the server and when I mount it on dev board ... is this a known issue ? Dec 20 13:58:25 koen: ping Dec 20 13:59:10 I got mtn: misuse: layout of database /home/niv/devel/OE.mtn Dec 20 13:59:12 doesn't match this versio Dec 20 13:59:38 when I did mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org Dec 20 13:59:38 org.openembedded.dev Dec 20 14:00:00 vlo: did you put no_root_squash on server? Dec 20 14:00:36 XorA: eerrrrrr what is it ??? Dec 20 14:00:52 niv_one_three: the instructions on your screen are clear Dec 20 14:01:07 niv_one_three: otherwise consult the monotone website Dec 20 14:01:10 vlo: /home/nfs/smdk2440 192.168.1.2(rw,no_root_squash,sync) Dec 20 14:01:11 disaster try ls "the path you set bbfile to" Dec 20 14:01:22 niv_one_three: I am *not* a substitute for google or common sense Dec 20 14:01:23 vlo: stops root being turned into noid Dec 20 14:01:26 koen: I got the lataest monotone off gentoo Dec 20 14:01:28 0.29 Dec 20 14:01:37 need I get 0.3 and build by hand? Dec 20 14:01:39 XorA: ok, I give it a try Dec 20 14:01:53 koen: sorry - I am new Dec 20 14:02:02 just looking to get a env Dec 20 14:02:34 an env Dec 20 14:03:00 if its a faq - I will google it Dec 20 14:03:07 XorA: thx a lot, that made the trick ... I didn't know that option, had only used NFS in "classical" situation ! Dec 20 14:04:39 it's my config filles Dec 20 14:04:45 http://wall.wouf.biz/?voir;2670 Dec 20 14:05:01 you know how i have an error Dec 20 14:05:07 no files to build Dec 20 14:05:57 /home/stuff??? Dec 20 14:06:01 disaster: BBFILE -> BBFILES Dec 20 14:06:20 XorA: its my *magic* /stuff/ path from docs ;D Dec 20 14:06:41 hrw|work: Id have understoff ${HOME}/stuff Dec 20 14:08:28 it's good but now i have a new error Dec 20 14:08:57 NameError name"oe" is not defined Dec 20 14:09:34 disaster: echo $BBPATH Dec 20 14:09:46 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155804 Dec 20 14:09:50 oops, wrong channel Dec 20 14:12:10 BBFILE != BBFILES Dec 20 14:12:19 kk Dec 20 14:12:37 --> /home/stuff/build/:/home/stuff/org.openembedded.dev Dec 20 14:13:20 it's the "/" after the build no ? Dec 20 14:13:55 in local.conf you define BBFILE, but it needs to be BBFILES Dec 20 14:15:25 yes Dec 20 14:16:05 i add the S at BBFILE Dec 20 14:16:18 any better? Dec 20 14:16:21 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1fb6330a... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): mono: dropped - not fetchable, not maintained Dec 20 14:16:58 new error but i think to goa bbpath Dec 20 14:17:17 ok Dec 20 14:17:22 what is error? Dec 20 14:17:22 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra418a6a2... 10/ (1 removal.txt): removal.txt: mono removed Dec 20 14:17:42 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9e753bbe... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): ipac-ng: dropped as scheduled. It depended on libgd-perl which is not present in metadata Dec 20 14:17:48 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8e96e2bb... 10/ (1 removal.txt): removal.txt: ipac-ng removed Dec 20 14:18:27 i test to delte the / after build in Dec 20 14:18:33 --> /home/stuff/build/:/home/stuff/org.openembedded.dev Dec 20 14:19:28 mourf now--> python no such files or directory Dec 20 14:19:28 disaster: make yourself familiar with a pastebin Dec 20 14:19:32 ~pastebin Dec 20 14:19:37 [pastebin] a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste Dec 20 14:19:58 and we are not interested in your interpretation of the error, but the output of the tool... Dec 20 14:20:21 mourf now--> python no such files or directory Dec 20 14:20:32 any idea Dec 20 14:20:53 disaster: see above, I'm not into gambling and magic ball shaking... Dec 20 14:21:01 disaster: paste the error in a pastebin, post the url here Dec 20 14:21:49 yes but error is in line Dec 20 14:22:10 Python : No such Files or directory Dec 20 14:22:16 disaster: I doubt that.... Dec 20 14:22:21 i must creat an alias fo python Dec 20 14:22:28 no ? Dec 20 14:22:34 disaster: no you should toggle the power-on switch for your mind... Dec 20 14:22:41 disaster: do you have python installed? Dec 20 14:22:48 which python says what? Dec 20 14:23:13 type "python" Dec 20 14:23:43 * koen hints at openembedded-essential Dec 20 14:24:56 ~fishslap M$ for not using dpkg Dec 20 14:24:58 * ibot_ slaps M$ up side the head with a wet fish for not using dpkg Dec 20 14:28:17 It would be nice if there was a running list of all the packages that have been removed from OE and what was the last OE version they were in. This would greatly aid someone who might wish to re-add the package (fixed it) at a later date.. Dec 20 14:30:17 Gerrath: what has the removal date have to do with the re-addition date? Dec 20 14:30:38 mourf python run good now Dec 20 14:30:50 WTF does mourf mean? Dec 20 14:30:51 koen: If the package is ancient, it might give an indication as to how much work on the recipe's required Dec 20 14:31:40 the error is NameError : name OE is not defined Dec 20 14:39:20 disaster, pastebin the complete error for us Dec 20 14:40:30 koen, well if I wanted to see the .bb file so I had a good starting point I could go to that version of OE and extract the .bb file as it was before it was removed. Dec 20 14:41:05 Gerrath: the recipe was deleted for a reason, so looking at that is most likely do you no good Dec 20 14:41:46 koen: ready for maemo drop? Dec 20 14:42:05 hrw|work: sure Dec 20 14:42:33 so I start removing - will provide list to get sure that nothing wrong removed Dec 20 14:44:45 koen, I see your point, however directfb was a very simple fix of the existing bb file and it would have taken much more effort to do it from scratch. I guess maybe it might be the exception and not the norm and maintaining the list might be more of a headache than it is worth. Dec 20 14:45:04 right Dec 20 14:45:37 I can move from packages to packages/will_be_dropped/YYYYMMDD/ Dec 20 14:47:08 koen, also I guess the more I think about it there is a list already: Bug tracker :-p Dec 20 14:49:39 re Dec 20 14:50:02 sorry i have installed the graphical interface in my linux box Dec 20 14:50:10 to past my error in pastedin* Dec 20 14:50:22 what is link please Dec 20 14:50:42 ~pastebin Dec 20 14:50:44 from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste Dec 20 15:01:45 http://pastebin.ca/286290 Dec 20 15:01:53 it's my error Dec 20 15:02:30 can you pastebin local.conf also? Dec 20 15:03:17 paste $BBPATH, PATH, and you conf/local.conf as well Dec 20 15:05:00 http://pastebin.ca/286292 fo my local.conf Dec 20 15:06:27 koen : ok I manually build monotone 0.31 and the command ran well Dec 20 15:06:28 disaster: how often did Crofton say it is BBFILES (not the S)? Dec 20 15:06:46 http://pastebin.ca/286294 Dec 20 15:07:05 I suggest to fix the "getting started" at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Dec 20 15:07:06 mourf i have add the S in my linuxBox Dec 20 15:07:07 disaster, fix line 28 in local.conf Dec 20 15:07:46 ok Dec 20 15:07:46 how is incharge of the OE online doc? Dec 20 15:08:13 niv_one_three: wiki - anyone Dec 20 15:08:13 i past my linuxbox local.conf Dec 20 15:08:13 niv_one_three: doc - you can provide patch Dec 20 15:10:19 oh - thas right Dec 20 15:10:26 I will do it then Dec 20 15:10:41 http://pastebin.ca/286295 Dec 20 15:11:36 does he need to uncomment TARGET_OS? Dec 20 15:11:41 disaster: I guess you hit an error due untested config Dec 20 15:11:55 disaster: e.g. try another DISTRO Dec 20 15:12:15 zecke: ? Dec 20 15:12:16 what name Dec 20 15:12:22 zecke: what's wrong with angstrom? Dec 20 15:12:32 koen: I guess :) Dec 20 15:12:41 zecke: you guessed wrong Dec 20 15:12:48 how about trying a known good machine with angstrom? Dec 20 15:12:52 zecke: now stop spreading FUD Dec 20 15:13:19 koen: behave, I guess and apply exclusion. Using a different machine, distro Dec 20 15:13:37 what machine is known to build with angstrom? Dec 20 15:14:28 ~lart vmware Dec 20 15:14:28 * ibot_ whips out a sword and chops vmware in half Dec 20 15:15:06 Crofton: omap5192osk, h2200, h4000, h5000, c7x0, akita, spitz, guinness, progear, ep93xx, efika, epia and more Dec 20 15:15:17 hmmm Dec 20 15:15:30 I fixed the wiki to reflect the monotone 0.3 requirment Dec 20 15:15:31 disaster, is using epia? Dec 20 15:16:04 koen, you build all these regularly, right? (multimachine) Dec 20 15:16:05 hummmm Dec 20 15:16:15 thanks koen Dec 20 15:16:22 Crofton: yep, almost daily Dec 20 15:16:39 Crofton: I at least build h220 and ep93xx (but vmware has decided to commit suicide) Dec 20 15:17:04 I haven't built against currrent dev in a week or so Dec 20 15:17:23 does TARGET_OS need defining in local.conf? Dec 20 15:17:31 okey Dec 20 15:17:35 what name ? Dec 20 15:17:54 disaster, try uncommeting the TARGET_OS = linnux Dec 20 15:17:58 Crofton: no Dec 20 15:18:01 okey Dec 20 15:18:03 maybe not then Dec 20 15:18:20 yes Dec 20 15:18:44 how i do to resolv my problem then ??? Dec 20 15:18:50 hmm Dec 20 15:19:13 how about an ls -l /home/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/ Dec 20 15:21:09 http://pastebin.ca/286309 Dec 20 15:22:12 disaster_: cheers, nothing wrong there then Dec 20 15:22:46 oker then where ?. Dec 20 15:22:51 lol Dec 20 15:23:53 no idea ? Dec 20 15:24:37 pastebin your real local.conf again Dec 20 15:24:56 btw I am multitasking with real work :) Dec 20 15:24:58 * XorA is out of ideas Dec 20 15:25:52 pastebin your local.conf and I will see what happens on my machine Dec 20 15:30:52 http://pastebin.ca/286321 Dec 20 15:31:03 it's my local.conf Dec 20 15:32:45 do a bitbake --version also Dec 20 15:33:33 BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.6.2, bitbake version 1.6.2 Dec 20 15:34:17 mine says 1.6.3 Dec 20 15:34:20 disaster_: youve defieately done export BBPATH=/home/stuff/build:/home/stuff/org.openembedded.dev Dec 20 15:34:23 ?? Dec 20 15:34:31 RP: Having some issues getting mouse working properly inside X on my spitz, got a sec? Dec 20 15:35:09 XorA --> What ? Dec 20 15:35:32 disaster_: run the command in quotes "export BBPATH=/home/stuff/build:/home/stuff/org.openembedded.dev" Dec 20 15:35:50 what target are you trying to build again? Dec 20 15:36:25 ouch we are all stupid :) Dec 20 15:36:35 disaster_: read the last line of you local.conf ;) Dec 20 15:37:01 #CVS_TARBALL_STASH = "" Dec 20 15:37:02 ? Dec 20 15:37:11 is what I just got from him? Dec 20 15:37:12 NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'oe' is not defined while evaluating: Dec 20 15:37:12 ${@oe.fatal('Read the comments in your conf/local.conf')} Dec 20 15:37:15 from local.conf Dec 20 15:37:38 :D Dec 20 15:38:00 key Dec 20 15:38:02 so ? Dec 20 15:38:21 # REMOVE_THIS_LINE:="${@oe.fatal('Read the comments in your conf/local.conf')}" Dec 20 15:38:21 i hve to comments this line Dec 20 15:38:37 ok Dec 20 15:42:48 debian:/home/stuff/bitbake# bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-imageNOTE: Using cache in '/home/stuff/bitbake/tmp/cache/epia Dec 20 15:43:34 Handling bitbake files : 0562 / 4065 14% Dec 20 15:43:39 it's good ? Dec 20 15:43:45 where is bb file for angstrom-bootstrap-image bb file? Dec 20 15:43:49 look sbetter Dec 20 15:43:50 we know it's good Dec 20 15:44:05 but it's long lol Dec 20 15:44:15 4065 packages that's right Dec 20 15:44:18 disaster_: yes Dec 20 15:44:27 disaster_: first run take time, next are fast Dec 20 15:44:49 key cool Dec 20 15:44:52 ah, in packages/angstrom Dec 20 15:45:33 Crofton_: I wanted to move it to images/ today, till I noticed poky's IMAGE_FEATURES Dec 20 15:45:38 Anyone know a standard linux touchscreen calibration tool? Dec 20 15:46:09 koen, no worries, I was just looking for it in images and getting confused Dec 20 15:46:15 hrw|work, mickeyl: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/build/conf/local.conf.sample?rev=1053&view=diff&r1=1053&r2=1052&p1=trunk/build/conf/local.conf.sample&p2=/trunk/build/conf/local.conf.sample Dec 20 15:46:18 then I remembered my friend "find" Dec 20 15:47:43 hmm Dec 20 15:47:46 IMAGE_FEATURES ? Dec 20 15:48:10 i doubt whether that scales Dec 20 15:48:23 it's probably good for a fixed set like poky Dec 20 15:48:25 mickeyl: I like the idea, but the -core thing is a bit out of place Dec 20 15:48:30 but i'm not convinced it'll work in OE Dec 20 15:48:39 we'd need alternatives, categories, etc. Dec 20 15:48:45 mickeyl: it's their replacement of DISTRO_TYPE Dec 20 15:49:16 yeah and I don't think i like it... at least not yet. i need to find time thinking about it Dec 20 15:49:26 right Dec 20 15:49:39 mickeyl: got a sec, got some questions about spitz Dec 20 15:50:00 i probably can't answer, but go ahead Dec 20 15:50:07 * mickeyl out of the Zaurus loop a bit Dec 20 15:51:00 173 skipped is normaly ? Dec 20 15:51:02 koen: nice thing Dec 20 15:51:09 now it's compil all Dec 20 15:51:11 mickeyl: oki :) Dec 20 15:51:23 disaster_: yes Dec 20 15:51:29 kk Dec 20 15:53:13 i haven't used a zaurus for 6 months Dec 20 15:53:21 feel free to ask anything Dec 20 15:53:57 the next step is difficult ? Dec 20 15:53:59 cu Dec 20 15:54:20 disaster, the next step is wait a long time Dec 20 15:54:22 :) Dec 20 15:54:28 that can be difficult for some Dec 20 15:54:48 mickeyl: I think properly defined tasks (task-devel-mokogui task-devel-gsmlib) would be a good start Dec 20 15:54:54 lol Dec 20 15:55:01 when it is done, you will have some files suitable for running on target hw Dec 20 15:55:01 like me ^ Dec 20 15:55:19 koen: of course. however, it's distro specific, that's what I'd like to say. Dec 20 15:55:22 rebuilds are faster Dec 20 15:55:25 the last year i make an embedded system Dec 20 15:55:29 once you get local copies of sources Dec 20 15:55:38 koen: i don't think we can agree on tasks that work for all distros Dec 20 15:55:40 but i have started in min system debian Dec 20 15:55:42 other than what task-base covers Dec 20 15:55:47 mickeyl: I agree Dec 20 15:55:51 *nod* Dec 20 15:55:57 see here: Dec 20 15:56:00 and i have compiled the kernel .. Dec 20 15:56:15 but i thinks the performance is less Dec 20 15:56:28 that your oe Dec 20 15:56:28 ^ Dec 20 15:56:43 ^^ Dec 20 15:56:44 http://pastebin.ca/286343 Dec 20 15:56:58 oe is very good at creating repeatable builds for embedded systems Dec 20 15:57:10 i look this Dec 20 15:57:58 mickeyl: looks suspiciously like the one I have on disk ;) Dec 20 15:58:03 heh Dec 20 15:58:05 should be newer ;) Dec 20 16:00:05 mickeyl: see the bottom part of http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf Dec 20 16:00:20 DEBUG_APPS += '${@base_conditional("DISTRO_TYPE", "release", "", "tslib-tests tslib-calibrate gdb strace procps",d)}' Dec 20 16:00:41 ya Dec 20 16:04:15 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r21f4a57e... 10/ (12 files in 2 dirs): gdb: basic unification of recipes Dec 20 16:04:22 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r93427c0a... 10/ (13 files in 2 dirs): gpe-mini-browser: basic unification of recipes Dec 20 16:04:30 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rc675059d... 10/ (12 files in 2 dirs): matchbox-wm: basic unification of recipes Dec 20 16:04:34 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r81438ff8... 10/ (19 files in 2 dirs): pvrusb2-mci: basic unification of recipes Dec 20 16:14:47 morning Dec 20 16:15:12 ciao Dec 20 16:17:04 ~praise Laibsch for more cleanup work Dec 20 16:17:06 All hail Laibsch for more cleanup work! Dec 20 16:24:39 Ifaistos: Did the upgrade to edgy now. But it still will not work. I believe icecc is not doing anything now. What do I need to change after your recent upgrades to icebb.conf? Dec 20 16:31:31 thx for your help Dec 20 16:31:44 i go now in my house Dec 20 16:31:54 the bitbake works Dec 20 16:32:02 i go today Dec 20 16:32:13 thx very much Dec 20 16:40:57 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rfd188bdf... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): python-2.4.4: write gc fatal error debug info to stderr Dec 20 16:41:12 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r9765617f... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): swig: add swig-1.3.31 Dec 20 16:41:22 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r6032daaf... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2/enigma2.sh): enigma2: use libopen Dec 20 16:41:31 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * recaeebcd... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-common.bb): tuxbox-common: update to SRCDATE 20061205 Dec 20 16:41:36 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r8df4c10d... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: add alsa-conf dependency until alsalib problems are fixed Dec 20 16:47:24 * kergoth wants to write a version of AC_REQUIRE() thats conditional, so that the required macro is loaded only if at least one of the conditionals (or an unconditional AC_REQUIRE is done) is satisfied Dec 20 17:10:15 ~seen florian|kc Dec 20 17:10:39 i haven't seen 'florian|kc', mickeyl Dec 20 17:10:48 ~seen florian_kc Dec 20 17:10:50 florian_kc was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 4h 30m 2s ago, saying: 'hi all'. Dec 20 17:14:05 I am looking for a unix command to insert a line of text as the first line of a file. sort of like 'echo "blah" >> file" but insertion at the top rather than at the end. Is there such a thing? Dec 20 17:16:21 Laibsch: mv file file.old && echo blah > file && cat file.old >> file && rm -f file.old Dec 20 17:16:24 :P Dec 20 17:16:27 afaik thats all you can do Dec 20 17:16:58 would be nice though :\ Dec 20 17:22:19 kergoth: probably dumb, naive, question, but Dec 20 17:23:13 would the behavior you're describing, be regarded as an feature of the fs, or the unix api? that there exists a syscall for appending to a file, Dec 20 17:23:17 but not one for prepending. Dec 20 17:23:47 (or is that something that both fs and system need to understand) Dec 20 17:23:59 or am I not making any sense :/ Dec 20 17:24:26 oe: sorry for interrupting with non OpenEmbedded-ness Dec 20 17:24:28 you dont need a syscall to append ot a file. you open it, seek to the end, and write Dec 20 17:24:53 naturally to prepend you'd have to move the rest of the data, writingi t again farther down Dec 20 17:24:57 afaik Dec 20 17:25:05 file opening is the syscall? Dec 20 17:25:46 seek-to-the-end is an internal operation within the fs, then. Dec 20 17:26:03 open() lseek() write() Dec 20 17:26:08 3 syscalls Dec 20 17:26:12 so, prepending would involve the fs knowing how to move data down the stream. Dec 20 17:26:16 indeed Dec 20 17:26:17 kergoth: thanks :) Dec 20 17:26:28 np Dec 20 17:26:59 course the shell could still provide such a redirect, itd just have to do the heavy lifting itself Dec 20 17:27:02 it shouldn't be hard to write a reiser4fs plugin that runs linux internally Dec 20 17:27:16 hehe Dec 20 17:27:24 koen: too bloody :/ Dec 20 17:27:51 koen: I think Hans has bigger fish to fry, at the moment Dec 20 18:02:04 huhu Dec 20 18:40:51 Laibsch : Can you see if icecc works without OE ? Try to make something and see if its distributing compile jobs Dec 20 18:44:39 koen, mickey|sports how long will you hang around Brussels Monday after FOSDEM? Dec 20 18:44:59 noon-ish Dec 20 18:45:33 mickeyl flies back at ~2pm and I think I'll take the train after lunch Dec 20 18:46:20 Today was a nice day. Got another board :) Avila GW2348-4 http://www.gateworks.com/avila_gw2348_4.htm Dec 20 18:46:48 stil researching flights, also sounds like my advisor will pay Dec 20 18:47:10 Ifaistos: looks suspicously like the 'loft' on my desk ;) Dec 20 18:47:11 this is a reputable conference right? not just an excuse to drinnk beer in Belgium? Dec 20 18:47:22 it's a reputable conference Dec 20 18:47:43 last year they had RMS as a speaker Dec 20 18:47:55 hmm, that's reputable ? Dec 20 18:47:57 :) Dec 20 18:48:00 Crofton : All reputable conferences are good excuses for a lot of things :) Dec 20 18:49:20 Ifaistos: [g2] designed that board :) Dec 20 18:50:07 koen : Well i am not an expert on xscale stuff so i'll take your word for it :) Dec 20 18:50:41 koen : Waiting on a couple more powerpc based boards to arrive for a project Dec 20 18:50:45 Ifaistos: MACHINE = 'ixp4xxbe' or MACHINE = 'ixp4xxbe' will do the right thing for the loft Dec 20 18:51:16 good evening fooks Dec 20 18:51:33 hey likewise Dec 20 18:51:42 hi likewise Dec 20 18:52:03 koen : Shoud that be "be: and "le" i assume Dec 20 18:52:14 ehm right Dec 20 18:52:53 Ifaistos: which PowerPC's or boards? I am shoppijng for ppc as well. Dec 20 18:52:58 -j Dec 20 18:53:20 * Ifaistos checks to see if he received any mail from the OE mailserver Dec 20 18:54:27 likewise : With the 440 from AMCC Dec 20 18:55:27 Ifaistos: I probably go for the mpc8313 and 8343 or 8347 parts. Dec 20 18:56:01 mpc8313 ~= IXP420 in terms of performance, but has less limitations and has Gigabit Ethernet. Dec 20 18:56:18 likewise : cool. more ppc stuff in the arm dominated OE world :) Dec 20 18:59:25 koen : i re-registered with a different email (but it resolves to the same mail server) and still no mail from OE Dec 20 19:30:15 ljp: WHy havent you commited to source to http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/opie/ yet? Dec 20 19:30:24 sorry wrong channel Dec 20 19:34:54 * koen waits for likewise's patch to add UPX to OE Dec 20 19:35:12 hi koen Dec 20 19:35:14 * likewise wonders what UPX is. Dec 20 19:35:37 likewise: executable compressor iirc Dec 20 19:35:40 * likewise and if its x86 only Dec 20 19:36:09 hmm my angstrom build dies looking for TLS support Dec 20 19:37:17 koen: I am mostly interested in compressing filesystems for embedded targets so that I can cram in goodies to the rim. It's usually harder on x86 platforms to fill your hd to the rim. Dec 20 19:38:25 2MB of NOR vs. 500GB of platters Dec 20 20:29:00 re Dec 20 20:31:47 wb Dec 20 20:34:46 Jin^eLD: good evening Dec 20 20:34:55 hi likewise Dec 20 20:45:32 these people of uclibc can make you creazy... the define the header of a function but comment out the function.... Dec 20 20:54:57 gobolive: i did. only there was some svn db error Dec 20 21:01:07 re Dec 20 21:50:58 koen: I missed the "upx" part in john's email. I completely see what you meant now. Dec 20 21:51:11 :D Dec 20 21:51:58 * koen goes to sleep now Dec 20 21:53:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ref7b9f80... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/libsoup_2.2.98.bb): Dec 20 21:53:03 libsoup: add hack to fix rebuilds Dec 20 21:53:03 * another case for packaged staging Dec 20 22:49:56 Hey, I'm trying to decide whether to use OE or Embedded-Gentoo...why would you reccomend one over the other? Dec 20 22:52:39 OE Dec 20 22:52:46 kholz: OE is independent from the host distro. Dec 20 22:52:59 OE makes distros Dec 20 22:53:20 kholz: OE is independent from the development host distro, Embedded-Gentoo is a Gentoo->Gentoo build system. Dec 20 22:53:30 kholz, you are using OSK right? Dec 20 22:53:41 Crofton_: Yeah Dec 20 22:53:54 install OE Dec 20 22:54:00 Crofton_: Are you Phil? Dec 20 22:54:04 set MACHINE=OMAP5912OSK Dec 20 22:54:05 yeah Dec 20 22:54:11 Cool. Dec 20 22:54:14 and DISTRO=openomap Dec 20 22:54:45 openomap may not be the best choise, but it is the one I know that makes stuff that works on the OSL Dec 20 22:55:18 Will OE give me a folder or a JFFS2 image? Dec 20 22:55:24 yes Dec 20 22:55:27 http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/OSK Dec 20 22:55:41 Look at the files section of this page Dec 20 22:56:00 there are some files from OE there Dec 20 22:56:06 Crofton_: Any idea how much the DaVinci differs from this OMAP board? Dec 20 22:56:25 likewise, I wish I knew :) Dec 20 22:56:36 I badly want some davinci stuff to fiddle with Dec 20 22:56:59 Crofton_: Will I be able to get a root folder out of OE? Or is it possible to mount a JFFS2 Image on a PC? I'm doing the NFS boot thing for while we are developing. Dec 20 22:57:18 it makes both :) Dec 20 22:57:30 awesome. Dec 20 22:57:32 Crofton_: grumble, I have the davinci board collecting dust - tooooo little time... Dec 20 22:57:35 jffs and tarball you can unpack and mount via nfs Dec 20 22:57:44 the EVM? Dec 20 22:58:00 likewise, you going to FOSDEM? Dec 20 22:58:04 Crofton: yes, I guess that one. Dec 20 22:58:04 Crofton_: Way way way sweet. Dec 20 22:58:10 Crofton_: yes Dec 20 22:58:31 likewise, yeah, I am thinking of coming Dec 20 22:58:34 flights are cheap Dec 20 22:58:49 I am supposed to see one of these next year Dec 20 22:58:50 http://www.lyrtech.com/DSP-development/dsp_fpga/sffsdrdevelopmentplatform.php Dec 20 22:58:57 Crofton_: Yes, DVEVM, with Montavista Linux and some sample codecs. I probably cannot bring the board though :-/ Dec 20 22:59:04 bummer Dec 20 22:59:14 I need to get Linux going on the Lyrtech board Dec 20 22:59:30 they only support Integrity Dec 20 22:59:33 right know Dec 20 22:59:47 kholz, I'd be glad to help you get OE set up Dec 20 22:59:55 more users fixes more bugs for me Dec 20 23:00:08 Crofton_: I can try, but we had a real hassle getting the board in the first place, and I cannot bring the board to a non-ESD-safe area. Dec 20 23:00:09 maybe you can get the DSP gateway going before me :) Dec 20 23:00:16 :-) Dec 20 23:00:18 likewise, don't worry about it Dec 20 23:00:35 Crofton_: OK, we'll just have a beer then Dec 20 23:00:39 Crofton_: Yeah, I hope so soon. Dec 20 23:00:46 I think a guy around here has one, I just do not have time to look at it Dec 20 23:01:06 if you want to see what it produces, flash the images I uploaded Dec 20 23:01:10 g'd nite guys Dec 20 23:01:12 Crofton_: Right now though, I've gotta get my toolchain organized... Dec 20 23:01:23 oe does all that Dec 20 23:01:50 gn Dec 20 23:01:55 tnx, cu Dec 20 23:02:27 Crofton_: It will build a toolchain for me? Sweet. Lemme get bitbake. Dec 20 23:02:37 see getting started Dec 20 23:02:47 on the oe page Dec 20 23:03:23 Okay. Dec 20 23:05:30 kholz, here is my local.conf Dec 20 23:05:52 disregard that one ... Dec 20 23:06:06 k Dec 20 23:07:03 http://pastebin.ca/286874 Dec 20 23:07:39 Pay close attention to TARGET_OS, DISTRO, and MACHINE vars Dec 20 23:08:10 otherwise sort of follow what they say in getting started Dec 20 23:08:10 I am not reall good and some of the settings Dec 20 23:08:10 k Dec 20 23:08:21 the real gurus are in EU, so they are worn out by now Dec 20 23:10:13 Thanks a million for getting that to me. Saves a lot of time. Dec 20 23:10:45 yeah Dec 20 23:10:50 understanding is important Dec 20 23:11:05 oe solves a big complicated problem Dec 20 23:11:15 so it can be intimidating and confusing at times Dec 20 23:11:49 you are lucky because i want to increase the OSK user base :) Dec 20 23:12:01 definitely. Dec 20 23:12:21 I just kind of looked at it and panicked, at first. Dec 20 23:12:36 I'm really new to a lot of this stuff. Dec 20 23:12:38 understandable Dec 20 23:13:38 I cant code much more than a hello world. But we've got a software engineer for that. I'm just trying to get an environment set up for or coder to work in. Dec 20 23:13:46 cool Dec 20 23:16:00 I think you can extract the tool chain from oe now Dec 20 23:16:02 Also, what needs development? If we're going into OE, we'd probably want to help fix any issues that still remain. Dec 20 23:16:09 I need to talk to some guys about that Dec 20 23:16:22 follow the list Dec 20 23:16:32 the guys work pretty hard on it Dec 20 23:16:47 for theOSK, we need to get the dsp gateway into the build system Dec 20 23:16:51 it is bitchy Dec 20 23:17:03 stuff that uses autotools is very easy Dec 20 23:17:18 get OE to make some images Dec 20 23:17:26 and see if you can do dev with it Dec 20 23:17:45 then you can see at what level you want to be involved Dec 20 23:18:35 Sounds like a good plan. Dec 20 23:19:23 the nice thing abut OE is that it is easy to reproduce an image Dec 20 23:19:33 if you change build machines Dec 20 23:19:59 once you get oe in, you will just turn the crank and spit out basic OSK images Dec 20 23:20:12 cool. Dec 20 23:20:20 We're in for the omap though. Dec 20 23:20:25 unless someone broke the meta data for the OSK :) Dec 20 23:20:49 I try to build images fairly regulary to check for that Dec 20 23:20:52 parts are ordered for this build we are doing. Only thing is it doesn't follow OSK 100% Dec 20 23:21:20 (i mean, with solder, not a toolchain; with regards to the build) Dec 20 23:21:43 so when you move to new hw, you may need to create a new machine file Dec 20 23:22:00 the build against new machine file Dec 20 23:22:20 k Dec 20 23:22:45 I have one of these EFIKA boards, I will build ou SCA stuff for it one day Dec 20 23:22:50 just to prove this concept Dec 20 23:23:54 sweet. Dec 20 23:24:09 That is way cool being able to jump hardware that easily. Dec 20 23:24:17 hopefully :) Dec 20 23:24:33 This sounds like a really smart system. Dec 20 23:24:50 yeah Dec 20 23:24:55 worth the pain Dec 20 23:29:11 I'd second that... Dec 20 23:59:53 If I inherit a from an inc file and b in the bb file itself, is that the same as inherit a b straight in the bb file? Dec 21 00:03:22 kholz, I am going home now, I'll check back in later Dec 21 00:03:40 Okay Dec 21 00:03:49 have you made progress? Dec 21 00:03:53 Getting OE right now, will go home later. Dec 21 00:04:00 ok Dec 21 00:04:04 yeah. Just got bitbake. Dec 21 00:04:08 ok Dec 21 00:04:12 now I'm downloading OE Dec 21 00:04:20 grabbing the montone db will take a while Dec 21 00:04:24 I'm skipping gentoo's bitbake ebuild Dec 21 00:04:47 ah Dec 21 00:04:57 I am not familiar with gentoo Dec 21 00:04:59 yeah, thanks for the heads up Dec 21 00:05:19 It is way clean. Dec 21 00:05:30 the first build takes a long time, it has to fetch source Dec 21 00:05:34 and you've got control over everything. Dec 21 00:05:41 and build the tool chain Dec 21 00:05:53 my friend uses gentoo Dec 21 00:06:10 I was amused at how long it took to install subversion on his slow laptop :) Dec 21 00:06:32 yeah. Everything is from source, which can be a pain if you are impatient ;[ Dec 21 00:06:48 yep Dec 21 00:06:59 How much longer will you work today? Dec 21 00:07:12 maybe 3 or 4 hours. Dec 21 00:07:17 ok Dec 21 00:07:18 Depends on how hungry I get. Dec 21 00:07:23 I'll log back in when i get home Dec 21 00:07:27 :) Dec 21 00:07:29 heh, my pizza is on the way Dec 21 00:07:35 Cool, thanks Dec 21 00:07:40 awesome. What kind? Dec 21 00:07:56 where can i find gnu-configize? i've never seen that before Dec 21 00:08:43 Are you sure you don't mean gnu-configure? Dec 21 00:08:47 yes Dec 21 00:08:47 ah Dec 21 00:08:57 seems to be part of gnu-config-native Dec 21 00:09:11 k Dec 21 00:20:45 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rea5d52af... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): centericq: unify Dec 21 00:20:55 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r48044373... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): coreutils: unify Dec 21 00:21:05 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r30678c37... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): e2fsprogs: some unification Dec 21 00:21:14 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r04cf0247... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): e2fsprogs-libs: unify Dec 21 00:21:24 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r5d04d04d... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): expat: unify Dec 21 00:57:36 latest "gcc-4.1.1-pr13685-1.patch" file isn't going in. Looks like it could be a CRLF problem (ie, they are there) which is confusing patch. Dec 21 00:58:11 this is with surrent metadata? Dec 21 00:58:25 wish I had left the buid at work on screen ... Dec 21 00:58:38 just did pull/up before Laibsch's commit above. Dec 21 00:58:52 it looks like a simple fix: just CRLF in the patch. Dec 21 00:59:00 hmm Dec 21 00:59:05 I am still building Dec 21 00:59:15 I did my pull around 6:30 or so Dec 21 00:59:19 lemme see if that's all there is to it.... Dec 21 01:00:08 HopsNBarley: What package? Dec 21 01:00:25 gcc-cross-initial-4.1.1-r9 Dec 21 01:01:31 testing a fix now... Dec 21 01:03:21 that indeed solves the broken patch problem. Dec 21 01:04:41 i'll push that here in a sec. Dec 21 01:05:18 OK Dec 21 01:12:43 03awilcox 07org.oe.dev * rcd737e02... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc-4.1.1-pr13685-1.patch): Remove the CRLF problem in this patch. Dec 21 02:10:15 anyone in or around Edmonton, Alberta, Canada want a free palm tungsten t2 to try and port linux to? How about a free ipaq 3650? Dec 21 02:12:53 or anyone willing to pay shipping on either of the above? If not, they are going to goodwill and some homeless guy is getting pimped out with gadgets. Dec 21 02:12:54 kholz, any progress? Dec 21 02:13:12 billytwowilly, many of the good guys are in EU Dec 21 02:13:18 and they are asleep right now Dec 21 02:14:04 you could send them to me and I could try and find some guys to work on the, Dec 21 02:14:12 I just do not have time :( Dec 21 02:14:49 Heh. I would if you pay shipping. I just don't want to throw out functional hardware. Dec 21 02:16:05 oh yah. It has a weird usb plug. Lemme see if I have the cable still. THe plug on the player is the same as on the computer. Dec 21 02:16:34 Heh. I even have the usb cable. Dec 21 02:16:50 damn. Dec 21 02:16:55 wrong channle. sorry. Dec 21 02:20:52 Crofton: The DB didn't compile, I'm re-emerging my system now Dec 21 02:21:14 what do mean DB didn;t compile? Dec 21 02:41:41 Crofton: Sorry for being so unresponsive. I'm yakkin with my boss right now. Dec 21 02:42:43 Crofton: The monotone didn't compile right. Dec 21 02:42:48 But I'm working on it. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 21 03:00:03 2006