**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 25 02:59:57 2006 Dec 25 04:28:39 good night Dec 25 04:35:11 I am so glas esr doesn't use oe ... Dec 25 07:24:50 merry xmas to all !!! Dec 25 08:47:54 Prettige Kerstdagen Dec 25 10:25:12 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2c2427ae... 10/ (18 files in 5 dirs): python: update to 2.4.4 Dec 25 11:31:54 hi all Dec 25 11:32:21 what is tehe name files witch say that the package is installed in the task-base ? Dec 25 11:36:20 anyone can help me? I'm trying to build opie-image.. after some time of downloading and building i get: ERROR: Nothing provides dependency task-bootstrap Dec 25 11:39:09 dion: yes, don't try to build opie-image Dec 25 11:40:02 koen: hmm. so what i should build to get something like opie-image? Dec 25 11:40:03 ~pastedin Dec 25 11:40:27 task-opie? Dec 25 11:42:12 don't build opie at all Dec 25 11:44:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8da25be9... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: remove reference to task-bootstrap Dec 25 11:44:36 http://pastebin.ca/291563 Dec 25 11:45:02 i have sthis error when i run task-base -crebuild Dec 25 11:51:20 disaster: what does 'bitbake task-base -c clean ; bitbake task-base' show? Dec 25 11:54:18 hey Dec 25 11:56:26 hey zecke Dec 25 12:10:01 no error now Dec 25 12:10:10 but when i add this line in local.conf Dec 25 12:10:17 gm Dec 25 12:10:24 Merry Christma Dec 25 12:10:35 Hi Crofton Dec 25 12:12:11 ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL = "grub" Dec 25 12:12:11 but in my tar image Dec 25 12:12:12 the grub is not present Dec 25 12:12:30 merry chrismas Crofton Dec 25 12:18:35 disaster: what questions do you ask yourself Dec 25 12:18:42 what is your hypothesis? Dec 25 12:18:52 e.g. I would ask myself. Do I look at the right tar Dec 25 12:18:59 Or was grub build at all Dec 25 12:19:06 how does grub's packaging look Dec 25 12:19:12 was it tried to install grub... Dec 25 12:23:46 ??? Dec 25 12:23:58 when i untar the image.tar.bz2 Dec 25 12:24:05 i untar this files Dec 25 12:24:16 and in the boot folder , there is not grub Dec 25 12:24:53 be an engineer, use your mind Dec 25 12:25:30 using these hints my 12 year old cousin would test his hypothesis within minutes and solve it Dec 25 12:26:16 lol Dec 25 12:26:44 zecke: I sadly won't make it to 23c3 Dec 25 12:27:01 zecke: so you have one snoring person less in your flat ;) Dec 25 12:27:37 btw, having a laptop in the kitchen while cooking is great Dec 25 12:28:15 laptops and wireless are awesome Dec 25 12:30:18 disaster: this is a student project right? Dec 25 12:31:17 yes Dec 25 12:31:33 that would explain the crazy deadline :) Dec 25 12:31:41 disaster: See I'm a under-graduate student as well Dec 25 12:32:03 disaster: And as I try to be an engineer I only have two questions Dec 25 12:32:16 Does it work as I wanted it to work? Why doesn't it work as I wanted it to work? Dec 25 12:32:28 Crofton: any chocolate left? Dec 25 12:32:38 and then I try to find the point where reality does not match with my expectation Dec 25 12:32:40 unfortunately Dec 25 12:32:49 disaster: e.g. "Why is grub not installed?" Dec 25 12:32:51 zecke: and 3) who can I blame when it doesn't work? Dec 25 12:33:03 disaster: Check if grub was built. It is as simply as that Dec 25 12:33:57 disaster: sitting there and scratching your head for days do not solve problems. In contrast they will create problems regarding your deadline Dec 25 12:35:10 kk Dec 25 12:35:48 disaster: so... grabbing your hand like done in junior-highschool. Do you think grub was built? Dec 25 12:35:50 the grub is not built Dec 25 12:36:43 disaster: why do you believe that? Dec 25 12:37:30 when i start the bitbake line i look that no package grub downloaded and not making Dec 25 12:37:50 in the ipk folder, there is not grub package ... Dec 25 12:38:29 * koen whistles innocently Dec 25 12:39:08 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2b6e23ac... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/angstrom-bootstrap-image.bb): angstrom-bootstrap-image: honour ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL Dec 25 12:39:09 disaster: this means no package was created, but was grub built? Dec 25 12:39:36 work harder, I need to learn how to boot images on such machines :) Dec 25 12:39:40 koen: party-pooper Dec 25 12:40:04 oops Dec 25 12:50:15 thx Dec 25 12:50:22 i go eat now Dec 25 12:53:11 good xmas morning Dec 25 12:59:24 anyone familair with gpsmap from kismet? Dec 25 13:24:47 03arjan 07org.oe.dev * r65b511b8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h1940.conf): h1940: updated machine config Dec 25 13:56:25 likewise: Does any type of suspend work on linuxbios? Dec 25 13:56:59 NAiL: dunno, never used suspend Dec 25 13:59:34 It'd be neat to get suspend-to-ram working on my htpc Dec 25 14:04:26 ~lart VPNs Dec 25 14:04:27 * ibot send killer squirrels to attack VPNs Dec 25 14:04:36 het net? :) Dec 25 14:11:10 yeah, I'm at Nynke's parents now Dec 25 14:14:27 I am here Dec 25 14:14:28 http://www.balister.org/~balister/ion1.png Dec 25 14:14:56 My father wants to know where the wireless coverage is in his neighborhood Dec 25 14:15:23 I need to do another run to fill in the center Dec 25 14:15:30 hehe Dec 25 14:19:56 Crofton: the blue line is the traveled path? Dec 25 14:20:06 yes Dec 25 14:20:19 kismet can't get any good roadmaps from the net anymore Dec 25 14:21:07 we forgot to tuen the inverter on in the car, so we lost about 1/2 the track Dec 25 14:21:17 we'll go back out in a bit and collect more data Dec 25 14:21:27 :) Dec 25 14:21:41 I accidentally left my gps at home Dec 25 14:23:53 oops Dec 25 14:24:16 they have this foul custom in my step mothers family Dec 25 14:24:24 sooup with oysters in it Dec 25 14:24:29 eeeeew Dec 25 14:24:31 oysters Dec 25 14:24:39 all the native born Amercians go carzy over it Dec 25 14:24:47 my father and I hide Dec 25 14:25:23 you two were imported? Dec 25 14:25:58 grrrr Dec 25 14:26:02 ~lart exohelpdesk Dec 25 14:26:03 * ibot accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets exohelpdesk feel it Dec 25 14:26:31 * NAiL makes sure ibot holds the CD about eye-level Dec 25 14:29:49 yeah Dec 25 14:29:58 came from England when I was a kid Dec 25 15:01:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9f4b88f2... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-thumb.conf): tune-thumb: remove explicit -nothumb, it is now disabled by omission to avoid strangeness with EABI Dec 25 16:59:08 wardriving round #2 Dec 25 17:42:51 omg Dec 25 17:43:11 they are broadcast the sing a long versions of annie and the sound of music Dec 25 17:43:20 +ing somewhere Dec 25 17:43:25 * koen gets some earplugs Dec 25 17:48:01 hehe Dec 25 17:51:57 http://www.balister.org/~balister/ion1.png Dec 25 17:52:00 updated Dec 25 18:08:15 Crofton: cute Dec 25 18:08:27 mickey|dinner: guten apetit Dec 25 18:09:08 * likewise wonders where flappie went Dec 25 18:09:28 ~seen flappie Dec 25 18:09:42 likewise: i haven't seen 'flappie' Dec 25 18:43:10 re Dec 25 19:39:44 hi! Dec 25 19:40:10 anybody remembers how to enable core dumps if setting core_pattern and ulimit -c unlimited doesn't help? Dec 25 19:44:10 ~lart WindowsUninstall Dec 25 19:44:10 * ibot strangles WindowsUninstall with a doohicky mouse cord Dec 25 19:44:19 hiihihi Dec 25 19:44:21 Hi all Dec 25 19:44:43 gremlin[it], lol Dec 25 19:55:34 koen|away: I have vla you could come to berlin ;) Dec 25 20:04:05 ibot: help Dec 25 20:04:51 ~ibot Dec 25 20:04:53 i guess ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org// , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. Dec 25 20:05:43 hmm lekker vla Dec 25 20:22:48 zecke: sadly you can't tempt me with food right now Dec 25 20:32:01 I haven't started eating to day and I am still not hungry :( Dec 25 20:46:35 My wife has clogged the kitchen sink drain with potato peels Dec 25 20:50:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7a9c6dcd... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gnomebaker_0.6.0.bb): gnomebaker: add 0.6.0 Dec 25 21:11:29 my lightning talk was accepted Dec 25 21:13:15 zecke: congrats Dec 25 21:14:07 :} Dec 25 21:14:17 need to write a talk proposal as well Dec 25 21:14:32 a talk in the embedded dev room? Dec 25 21:14:39 yes Dec 25 21:15:01 didn't mickeyl want to talk as well? Dec 25 21:15:11 koen: yes Dec 25 21:15:21 see 'my' mail Dec 25 21:15:34 * koen sometimes gets confused between all those germans Dec 25 21:15:43 It can't hurt to have two proposals Dec 25 21:15:56 if we get only one slot assigned, mickeyl will talk Dec 25 21:16:03 if we get two or more, i will talk as well Dec 25 21:17:24 hmm I should really take a look at GNUstep :} Dec 25 21:17:36 gorm Dec 25 21:18:02 it looks so ugly :} Dec 25 21:18:34 AA is for losers Dec 25 21:19:10 objective-C rocks Dec 25 21:21:15 http://www.etoile-project.org/etoile/mediawiki/index.php?title=Image:Etoile_pda_ui_01.png Dec 25 21:21:49 [hash : put: @"zecke_rocks" at: 1] Dec 25 21:22:01 almost like smalltalk :) Dec 25 21:40:47 * Crofton needs to write a proposal for a lightnig talk Dec 25 21:40:57 but my sister is over with her family Dec 25 21:41:04 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rd8f40f8c... 10/ (1 packages/uboot-utils/uboot-utils_1.1.2.bb): The source package for uboot-utils is u-boot, not (uboot-utils). Dec 25 21:42:48 zecke: for that talk, let me know on time :-) Dec 25 21:43:28 I got mickeyl's already. Dec 25 22:08:29 philippe: oh, I will hurry up Dec 25 22:09:06 philippe: mickeyl will be in berlin from the 27th to the 30th and I will talk with him about my plans Dec 25 22:24:32 zecke: great! I'll keep an eye open for it. Dec 25 23:23:20 I'm trying to compile my kernel for open embedded and I'm getting this error NOTE: make -e MAKEFLAGS= include/linux/version.h CC=ccache arm-linux-gcc LD=arm-linux-ld make: *** No rule to make target `include/linux/version.h'. Stop. FATAL: oe_runmake failed Dec 25 23:23:30 is this someting I can fix? Dec 25 23:24:14 the kernel version is linux-2.6.18+2.6.19-rc6-r1 Dec 25 23:26:03 look a bit weird Dec 25 23:26:11 e.g. missing quotes... Dec 25 23:48:18 zecke, are you talking about my error? Dec 25 23:48:37 zezom: the lines you are pasted are ambigious... Dec 25 23:49:22 I've seperated carage returns with multiple spaces Dec 25 23:49:35 but that's all that I got in the error log file Dec 25 23:50:22 is their any other info you want me to supply? Dec 25 23:58:41 zezom: I will be gone now but paste errors complete and properly into a pastebin Dec 25 23:58:58 ok, will do Dec 25 23:59:31 it is no use in typing them... one forgets context and is doing several other errors Dec 26 00:01:28 http://pastebin.com/844894 Dec 26 00:02:31 zezom: what keeps you from taking a look into the log file? Dec 26 00:03:02 nothing I did, do you want me to paste that also? everything in the log file in in their any way Dec 26 00:03:17 zezom: this log is created from the run of a script Dec 26 00:03:26 zezom: maybe take a look at this script as well Dec 26 00:03:46 I'm uncertain CC=ccache_arm-linux-gcc looks a bit 'wrong' Dec 26 00:03:57 e.g. I would assume quotes around Dec 26 00:04:12 http://pastebin.com/844895 Dec 26 00:04:18 the log is at the bottom Dec 26 00:09:53 zezom: take a look at the 'run*do_compile' script of your recipe Dec 26 00:10:08 will do thanks Dec 26 00:10:10 zezom: e.g. the tail of it and check that the directory it changes to is the one you expect Dec 26 00:14:25 I'm going to blow away the dir and try a fresh compile as their is a lot of files each from my attempts to compile it... Dec 26 00:15:03 zezom: these files are identical (hopefully) Dec 26 00:15:15 zezom: so just taking 'one' is good enough Dec 26 00:15:39 they should be but I don't want to take any chances.. also the dir it was meant to go into and do do compiles in was empty Dec 26 00:16:02 zezom: so set S= in your bb file Dec 26 00:16:14 zezom: S points to the directory where the source will be Dec 26 00:16:26 zezom: take a look at conf/bitbake.conf to see the default value Dec 26 00:21:24 that file is very confusing, I've been trying to trace the paths but their is no value for $TOPDIR Dec 26 00:21:56 zezom: S = "${WORKDIR}/${PN}-${PV}" IIRC Dec 26 00:22:20 S = "${WORKDIR}/${P}" Dec 26 00:22:30 P = "${PN}-${PV}" Dec 26 00:22:45 so that's right I was just trying to find the actual path Dec 26 00:23:00 ignore ${WORKDIR} it points into some tmp dir Dec 26 00:23:13 so if your kernel tree is not name ${PN}-${PV} Dec 26 00:23:27 set S to the right thing (from within your kernel bbfile) Dec 26 00:24:51 so I have to edit the kernel bb file? do I have to do some sort of a make menuconfig? Dec 26 00:25:01 is their a .config file some where? Dec 26 00:25:41 zezom: hehe, it sounds you know what you are doing?! Dec 26 00:26:04 zezom: check the bitbake manual and make yourself familiar with the OVERRIDE system Dec 26 00:26:16 well I know what I'm doing in gentoo but I'm really new to open embedded Dec 26 00:26:29 will do Dec 26 00:26:29 thanks Dec 26 00:28:18 from what I heard both should be similiar Dec 26 00:28:51 zezom: MACHINE, DISTRO are inside the OVERRIDE variable (also set in bitbake.conf) Dec 26 00:29:09 zezom: so if your have a SRC_URI += "file://defconfig" Dec 26 00:29:31 zezom: it tries hard to pick the 'best' defconfig file it can find e.g. using a MACHINE specific one Dec 26 00:30:00 I've set my machine to rx3000 Dec 26 00:30:02 zezom: e.g. take a look at linux-rp.inc and linux-rp* for a hopefully sane bbfile Dec 26 00:30:05 and distro to generic Dec 26 00:30:44 oh linux-rp.inc is doing it differently though Dec 26 00:30:49 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-rp.inc Dec 26 00:31:23 at the end of do_configure it puts the 'fetched' defconfig into .config and runs oldconfig Dec 26 00:31:30 the other kernels do it similiary... Dec 26 00:31:45 sounds good Dec 26 00:32:02 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6.inc Dec 26 00:32:13 e.g. linux-handhels-2.6.inc is using the override system Dec 26 00:34:01 http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6 Dec 26 00:34:18 hmm this kernel even supports rx3000? Dec 26 00:34:59 I don't know it's just the kernel that gets picked for me as one of the deps of opie-image Dec 26 00:35:04 ... off to bed Dec 26 00:35:19 ok, sleep well and thanks for all of the help Dec 26 00:35:28 it's much appreciated Dec 26 00:36:02 ah okay. hmm Dec 26 00:38:04 zezom: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine/rx3000.conf Dec 26 00:38:41 zezom: go to http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6.inc Dec 26 00:38:56 zezom: and add rx3000 to the COMPATIBLE_MACHINE Dec 26 00:39:32 thanks again :) Dec 26 00:39:34 zezom: no promise that this kernel will compile/work **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 26 03:00:00 2006