**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 31 02:59:57 2006 Dec 31 04:46:34 the 1.0 release of opencv compiles properly under oe but I'm still fighting with the staging stuff. Dec 31 04:46:51 I'm just curious to see how "slow" it will be running on the slug Dec 31 05:22:11 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r502210bc... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Unslung: slingbox - bump up to busybox 1.3.1 Dec 31 05:22:27 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r1909baf9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Unslung: kernel: added pwc device as a kernel module Dec 31 08:13:30 morning all Dec 31 09:27:18 good morning all Dec 31 09:32:03 thanks koen , managed to run it last night :-) Dec 31 09:32:33 I also sugest maybe adding a link in the getting started to a table of all supported platforms Dec 31 09:33:01 it is kind of easy .. once I get in to it.. Dec 31 09:44:57 DISTRO 'openzaurus-3.5.4.2' not found" Dec 31 09:45:07 what iz the right syntax ? Dec 31 10:16:52 morning all Dec 31 10:20:56 hey RP Dec 31 10:30:47 koen: Have you looked at this softsqueeze patch? Dec 31 10:35:36 RP: nope Dec 31 10:36:38 I did the protocol reverse engineering that softsqueeze was based on ;-) Dec 31 10:44:44 :D Dec 31 11:27:38 hi, all! Dec 31 11:27:43 happy new year! Dec 31 11:28:54 I wish you health, wealth, and happiness in addition to whatever you wish yourself! Dec 31 11:44:42 hi all Dec 31 11:45:24 after build the Angstrom-bootstrap-image Dec 31 11:45:38 i have an files.tar.bz2 Dec 31 11:45:56 this files include an linux kernel in folder boot ? Dec 31 11:46:22 because i have installed manualy grub in my compact flash with gub-install Dec 31 11:46:54 and i have rename the files present in boot in vmlinuz Dec 31 11:47:02 it's the good operation Dec 31 11:47:04 ??? Dec 31 11:47:36 but when i start my box whith the compact flash, the system don't run Dec 31 11:47:46 it's break after the grub Dec 31 11:48:05 when it uncompressing the kernel Dec 31 11:48:49 have you an idea please ? Dec 31 12:14:08 gm Dec 31 12:23:50 disaster: well, there is always printascii() and printk() Dec 31 12:24:38 disaster: I've had to do that, go into head.S and sprinkle printascii("made it here ok!") to find out where the kernel dies Dec 31 12:25:38 disaster: printk() is not available during the very early start of the kernel, such as when you are decompressing, printascii() is defined in arch/arm/kernel/debug.S Dec 31 12:26:21 Morning! Dec 31 12:28:49 good morning Dec 31 12:28:53 oh Dec 31 12:30:30 Should there ever be the need for whitespace at the end of the line in a bb file? Or can I remove all occurrences of it in the OE tree? Dec 31 12:33:14 Laibsch: It should be safe to remove Dec 31 12:42:03 but, when i build the oe, i don't choose the kernel option and don't recompil the kernel ?* Dec 31 12:45:15 crofton, after build the oe, i must include a kernel or the kernel is include in OE Dec 31 12:45:38 OE is very dificult to understand Dec 31 12:54:59 disaster: not sure if I can help - what do you want to do with OE Dec 31 13:03:17 * RP wonders how to debug gdb 6.6 segfaulting Dec 31 13:04:18 heh Dec 31 13:22:19 Happy New Year! Dec 31 13:22:35 hi mithro Dec 31 13:22:53 * florian is still in 2006 ;) Dec 31 13:23:14 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rca1dbbdd... 10/ (879 files in 489 dirs): remove extra whitespace at end-of-line in about 900 bb files. Dec 31 13:28:05 pgfeller, i must craeted an embedded system whitch must play the streaming video Dec 31 13:28:15 it's x86 and epia Dec 31 13:28:48 i have build an system with bitbake angstrom-boostrap-image Dec 31 13:29:11 then i have installed manualy the grub in my compact flash whitch have the ext2 files system Dec 31 13:29:28 then i have untar the image Dec 31 13:29:36 but the system not run Dec 31 13:29:46 error when the kernel start Dec 31 13:30:01 then i build the oe with bitbake Dec 31 13:30:13 the kernel is include or i must include after ? Dec 31 13:31:50 disaster: for my device (collie) the kernel is build with "bitbake openzaurus-sa" ... so there's a .bb for it Dec 31 13:32:12 disaster: I do not know which reciept does build the kernel in your case though Dec 31 13:32:31 heu when i untar the image.tar.bz2 Dec 31 13:32:38 ia have to files in boot Dec 31 13:32:49 but here name not vmlinuz Dec 31 13:32:56 i have rename the files Dec 31 13:33:01 but ... Dec 31 13:33:50 you speak french ? Dec 31 13:34:02 disaster: unfortunately I can not help - as I'm not an expert in kernel stuff - but maybe #handhelds.org can help you better if the question is related to porting to a new device Dec 31 13:34:28 disaster: - nop, je ne parle pas francais Dec 31 13:34:37 lol Dec 31 13:34:41 on dirais pas Dec 31 13:35:23 disaster: has some french in school (probably enough to survive) - but not enough to be able to follow a conversation :-( Dec 31 13:35:32 kk Dec 31 13:35:39 thx for your help Dec 31 13:35:47 and good years Dec 31 13:35:58 disaster: np Dec 31 13:36:24 just on question Dec 31 13:36:36 after you are build the image Dec 31 13:36:46 how have you start the system Dec 31 13:36:53 you have installed the grub ? Dec 31 13:38:05 disaster: on the iPAQ I have a jffs2 image, which I download with bootloader - on the collie I place the image on the CF & use a magic key combination to trigger the installation Dec 31 13:39:24 disaster: as you use an angstrom image, maybe they have an irc channel as well, where they can answer you some of your questions Dec 31 13:39:48 kk Dec 31 13:39:52 thx Dec 31 14:10:53 morning Dec 31 14:24:48 RP: heh Dec 31 14:30:32 must start thinking again Dec 31 15:45:16 koen: ok I ran the bitbake gpe-image Dec 31 15:45:25 now is the image? Dec 31 15:45:49 I guess it seems trivial, Dec 31 15:47:02 yet maybe I need to add it in the howto Dec 31 15:49:34 happy new year Dec 31 15:49:51 and all the best to everybody for 2007 Dec 31 15:55:43 someone knows if it's possible to run enlightenment on a zaurus c750 here? Dec 31 16:23:11 GottferDamnt_: yes Dec 31 16:23:52 Hello Dec 31 16:24:15 I'm trying to make a .bb file for xpdf, but I need to pass some options in configure Dec 31 16:24:22 The options are: Dec 31 16:24:24 --with-freetype2-library=/usr/lib --with-freetype2-includes=/usr/include/freetype2 Dec 31 16:24:28 EXTRA_OECONF = "--blah" Dec 31 16:24:28 For my system Dec 31 16:24:48 I need a variable that can fix the paths for OE Dec 31 16:24:54 but those paths are most certainly wrong for OE Dec 31 16:24:59 I know Dec 31 16:25:13 --with-freetype2-library="${STAGING_LIBDIR}" Dec 31 16:25:26 Thank you very much Dec 31 16:25:27 and ${STAGING_INCDIR}/freetype2 Dec 31 16:25:36 Thank you Dec 31 16:25:39 :-D Dec 31 16:25:42 :) Dec 31 16:25:45 why xpdf? Dec 31 16:26:03 Cause the Jornada doesn't have many recources to spare Dec 31 16:26:08 :) Dec 31 16:26:19 Anything that uses GTK2 is way too slow Dec 31 16:26:29 XorA|gone, sure? Dec 31 16:26:39 Even with gtk 2.6.10, which doesn't use cairo Dec 31 16:26:54 B_Lizzard: ok, fair enough Dec 31 16:26:59 :) Dec 31 16:27:00 :-D Dec 31 16:27:36 GottferDamnt_: yeah, it normally builds out of OE, you'll need like 64M of / space though, so for 750 I think you'll need to boot from SD Dec 31 16:27:57 It probably won't build for GCC 4.2 and prerelease versions, but it will for GCC 4.1 Dec 31 16:28:00 http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377230 Dec 31 16:29:06 B_Lizzard: you might want to check out the gentoo patches to build xpdf on top of poppler, as poppler is getting floating point removal and malloc removal optimisations at the moment Dec 31 16:29:24 Hmmmm Dec 31 16:29:38 I usually check debian, but that sounds like a good idea Dec 31 16:29:42 I'll look into it Dec 31 16:43:47 XorA|gone: note the irony in that Dec 31 16:43:55 XorA|gone: since poppler is a fork of xpdf :) Dec 31 16:44:15 ;) Dec 31 16:44:20 koen: yeah, It always amused me Dec 31 16:44:49 OE doesn't include lesstif or anything, does it? Dec 31 16:45:15 I once built lesstif, but it needs full x11 Dec 31 16:45:24 :/ Dec 31 16:45:28 lesstif_0.94.4.bb Dec 31 16:45:37 XorA|gone: I still wonder which poppler backend is faster Dec 31 16:45:37 Not just libx11 or anything? Dec 31 16:45:54 diet-x11 isnt good enough Dec 31 16:46:05 or wasnt when I tried, it but some more patches were added since Dec 31 16:46:22 its an easy .bb Dec 31 16:46:23 SRC_URI = "${SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR}/lesstif/lesstif-${PV}.tar.bz2" Dec 31 16:46:27 inherit autotools Dec 31 16:46:41 And a DESCRIPTION or something Dec 31 16:46:51 B_Lizzard: yeah, but thats just niceness Dec 31 16:46:57 I'll try that, allright Dec 31 16:47:08 I've built some .bb files lately Dec 31 16:47:21 Ayttm and some old versions of GQview Dec 31 16:51:54 error: You must have X11 Revision 5 or higher to compile the Lesstif tests Dec 31 16:51:57 bugger Dec 31 16:52:01 :( Dec 31 16:52:32 Um... Dec 31 16:53:00 maybe I can disable the tests, if I got that part well... Dec 31 16:54:50 bbl Dec 31 16:55:13 x11r5? Dec 31 16:55:15 man Dec 31 16:55:24 only my hp xterminal runs that Dec 31 16:55:30 :) Dec 31 16:55:45 Or higher :) Dec 31 17:01:05 It compiles :) Dec 31 17:01:21 If I pass --without-x Dec 31 17:01:23 :| Dec 31 17:01:37 That was pretty obvious, wasn't it? Dec 31 17:07:42 * XorA|gone wonders what good lesstif without X is :-) Dec 31 17:19:42 It worked, but I had to jump through some hoops Dec 31 17:20:40 It needs a couple of programs, which of course are built for another processor Dec 31 17:20:49 man2html and things like that Dec 31 17:21:20 It builds them as part of the package Dec 31 17:23:02 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r40c13410... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): squeezeclient: Add squeeze client (from #1717 with some changes) Dec 31 17:25:05 B_Lizzard: amusingly, next to that lesstif.bb is my xpdf.bb :-) Dec 31 17:25:16 :) Dec 31 17:25:19 hahaha Dec 31 17:25:42 B_Lizzard: but it looks like I got bored and never finished it Dec 31 17:26:00 Lesstif is way too big anyways Dec 31 17:26:17 * B_Lizzard wonders why no GTK 1.2 pdf viewer exists Dec 31 17:29:11 pdf wasnt really very big back then Dec 31 17:30:05 Well, still, there has to be some application filling in the niche Dec 31 17:30:16 Between motif and gtk2/qt Dec 31 17:34:43 RP: with the -dbg packages, would it make sense to pass -g into CFLAGS? Dec 31 17:37:58 koen: My gut instinct says that will add data we don't handle atm but I'm just guessing Dec 31 17:39:41 heh Dec 31 17:39:44 "-flimit-debug-info Dec 31 17:39:44 Limit debug information produced to reduce size of debug binary. Dec 31 17:39:45 " Dec 31 17:51:00 koen: Does the a780 or e680 have a h3600 touchscreen with the 2.4 kernel? Dec 31 17:52:10 do you guys screw around with facebook? I made a FOSDEM 2007 group :) Dec 31 18:00:58 RP: no idea Dec 31 18:02:49 Crofton: no, but I joined the group anyway :) Dec 31 18:04:50 hi mickeyl Dec 31 18:05:42 hey mickeyl Dec 31 18:05:45 hi guys Dec 31 18:05:56 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5e90ea32... 10/ (46 files in 23 dirs): tslib: Have a sane default tslib.sh file to match what nearly all 2.6 udev devices are now using. Drop 2.4 kernel support for all Zaurii except collie. Only machine tslib-conf machine specific for those that need it Dec 31 18:06:03 just wanted to drop you a happy evening until new year arrives before i'm going out to celebrate tonite Dec 31 18:06:03 4 hours 27 minutes left till launch ;) Dec 31 18:06:09 *cough* ;) Dec 31 18:06:27 * mickeyl mutters something about SDRAM corruption in gta01Bv2 Dec 31 18:06:37 hmm Dec 31 18:06:42 mickeyl: :-/ Dec 31 18:06:52 I have about 10 hours until next year Dec 31 18:07:19 it's the first time in years I don't have to work at new years eve Dec 31 18:07:19 mickeyl: Does OE support 2.4 on the a780/e680? Dec 31 18:07:44 RP: not at this point of time Dec 31 18:08:00 i have the necessary stuff lying around here to make a bb with a working 2.4 kernel though Dec 31 18:08:15 even with keeping the phone subsystem working ;) Dec 31 18:08:21 mickeyl: Ok, I just cleaned up tslib "a bit" and removed the half hearted 2.4 tslib support for it... Dec 31 18:08:35 ok Dec 31 18:08:35 absolutely ok for me Dec 31 18:08:36 now time for work Dec 31 18:09:16 RP: that breaks collie then? Dec 31 18:09:29 mickeyl: No, I left collie and simpad only Dec 31 18:09:34 oki Dec 31 18:10:01 The hh.org people had wiped their 2.4 support, I pulled all the Zaurus expect collie Dec 31 18:10:14 Its new yuear in idnian 00:05 hrs . Happy New Year :) Dec 31 18:10:24 err.. *India Dec 31 18:12:18 see you in 2007 Dec 31 18:12:21 anyone know if there are any dive computer data downloaders bb files? Dec 31 18:12:32 mickeyl: HNY :) Dec 31 18:12:34 yay, partays! Dec 31 18:12:42 * RP -> food Dec 31 18:21:04 ok that was weird Dec 31 18:21:18 my spare OSK wouldn't boot, so I tried to reflash the boot loader Dec 31 18:21:26 which didn't work either Dec 31 18:21:31 but now it boots again Dec 31 18:42:07 morning Dec 31 18:42:11 hey XorA Dec 31 18:44:07 * XorA watches hogmany blow away Dec 31 18:45:24 ~google hogmany Dec 31 18:45:35 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6221557.stm Dec 31 18:46:16 the dutch new years dive into the sea has been canceled as well Dec 31 18:48:30 morning ilke Dec 31 18:48:33 urhm Dec 31 18:48:35 likewise: Dec 31 18:48:48 tab-completion can be bad :-P Dec 31 18:48:50 morning fooks, AnIL :-) Dec 31 18:49:17 ;) Dec 31 18:50:39 koen: I think the Edin one is still one, crazy fewls :-) Dec 31 19:10:30 crappi, I hate it when the wind starts to blow me stuff around Dec 31 19:10:44 . o O (lightbulb) Dec 31 19:10:56 I don't have to stay sober this year Dec 31 19:11:03 * koen gets some beer Dec 31 19:11:35 um beer Dec 31 19:12:10 * koen finishes his pint of milk first Dec 31 19:14:59 later all Dec 31 19:15:06 HNY Dec 31 19:17:23 ditto Dec 31 19:17:30 still a few hours left here Dec 31 19:18:42 9 hours here Dec 31 19:19:22 3 hours 15 mins Dec 31 19:25:04 4h 7m Dec 31 19:25:22 * XorA makes sure torch is to hand Dec 31 19:25:32 * chouimat|ibook doesn't care ... 2006 is ending like it was crappy ... so 2007 will start crappy Dec 31 19:26:11 just lost a hdd today ... so I don't feel like having fun Dec 31 19:26:25 I just want to get back to work Dec 31 19:27:24 Crofton I just want to get the data back but it's not possible ... Dec 31 19:27:25 has anyone updated to mtn 0.32? Dec 31 19:27:30 well Dec 31 19:27:42 then go drink and worry about it next year ... Dec 31 19:28:44 Crofton hehe ... tuesday i will spend a nice 300$ for a new hard disk ... I like when the hdd make noise (like the heads are hitting something) and start playing music Dec 31 19:30:03 we just hope the heads unstick long enough for you to dd if=/dev/olddrive of=/dev/newdrive Dec 31 19:36:16 Crofton: I made the update to 0.32 Dec 31 19:37:22 works OK? Dec 31 19:39:15 I think so. Dec 31 19:39:20 log is a lot faster. Dec 31 19:39:50 I already made a commit with it (and thus also pull and merge) Dec 31 19:45:11 48 mins left here, so HNY, all! Dec 31 19:55:05 48 mins? Which TZ are you in? Dec 31 19:55:26 * NAiL notices .ru Dec 31 20:03:27 slapin_: HNY! Dec 31 20:27:47 HNY everyone, gonna shut down everything as it looks like power is iffy Dec 31 20:28:10 HNY! Dec 31 20:28:59 The weather here isn't much better. The wind is causing the house to shift gently :) Dec 31 20:35:10 HNY to someone Dec 31 20:37:14 RP, HNY! Dec 31 20:37:21 it starte4d here! Dec 31 20:37:31 everybody, HN2007Y! Dec 31 21:14:08 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r75df08ef... 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): gdb: Add 6.6, drop 6.1, 6.2, 6.2.1. Make gdb RRECOMMEND the thread db package from glibc (gdb segfaults on arm EABI without it). Dec 31 21:33:17 RP: Aren't you in .eu? Dec 31 21:33:24 NAiL: yes Dec 31 21:33:37 CET? :) Dec 31 21:33:47 Why are you committing stuff now? :-P Dec 31 21:33:48 NAiL: GMT Dec 31 21:33:51 ah Dec 31 21:33:54 still some time ;) Dec 31 21:34:01 NAiL: couple of hours ;-) Dec 31 21:34:04 yeah Dec 31 21:34:09 58 mins here ;) Dec 31 21:34:14 I'm about to sign off Dec 31 21:34:24 got my share of drinks ;) Dec 31 21:34:24 I could ask why you're here? :) Dec 31 21:34:33 Happy new year everybody :-D Dec 31 21:34:36 I should go and find a bottle :) Dec 31 21:34:40 indeed ;) Dec 31 21:34:40 NAiL: HNY! Dec 31 22:05:26 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rec673839... 10/ (1 packages/apmd/apmd_3.2.2.bb): apmd: Fix -dev package Dec 31 22:05:31 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r10e6e06b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ecore: Patch in kernel header definitions to avoid header problems in native packages Dec 31 22:05:36 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r78be4988... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): linux-rp: Update to xscale_cache patch version r1 Dec 31 22:05:40 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd44c9019... 10/ (24 files in 16 dirs): Split STAGING_BINDIR into CROSS and NATIVE versions. This means there is no need to rename -config scripts and multimachine won't break with binconfig.bbclass. ***NOTE: This change will require staging to be rebuilt*** Dec 31 22:37:23 happy new year every one! Dec 31 22:37:32 koen|away: HNY! Dec 31 22:53:42 +1 Dec 31 23:03:30 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6a0209f2... 10/ (38 files in 7 dirs): Rename: image_ipk -> image.bbclass, IPKG_INSTALL -> PACKAGE_INSTALL to prepare for deb packaging Dec 31 23:09:32 * koen starts a image run from scratch Dec 31 23:09:49 * RP hopes he didn't break things :) Dec 31 23:10:01 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.1-r9: task do_unpack: started Dec 31 23:10:04 so far, so good :) Dec 31 23:10:38 I will eventually get things merged from poky. This sets the stage a bit more :) Dec 31 23:11:14 koen: Take note that gdb segfaults if the thread library is missing on ARM EABI at least Dec 31 23:11:19 If I can manage to fit 72 hours in a day I can get packaged-staging working soon as well Dec 31 23:11:31 RP: gdb 6.6 is on its way to the feeds :)_ Dec 31 23:14:07 RP: will your change require all oe-built distros to be rebuilt? Dec 31 23:14:20 koen: With packages staging, I'm thinking of adding a core bitbake function which would let you mark a task as complete. A ps task could therefore run before fetch and if successful mark future tasks as complete Dec 31 23:14:38 RP: that'd be a nice feature Dec 31 23:15:03 mwester-laptop: It breaks tmp dirs on people's machines. It won't break feeds or change the resulting images in any way Dec 31 23:15:35 ok - thanx! Dec 31 23:15:41 IOW, clean your buildbots Dec 31 23:16:59 * mwester-laptop removes unslung & openslug dirs, syncs up, and starts a rebuild of both... Dec 31 23:17:32 ais aussi @+ ^ ^ Dec 31 23:17:38 jy vais* Dec 31 23:21:51 RP: qemu fails on not finding sdl Dec 31 23:24:14 RP: what do you think about http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/incompatible-machine.diff ? Dec 31 23:24:38 koen: Ah, someone "fixed" qemu since I did these patches... Dec 31 23:25:16 hmm someone modified task-ossie? Dec 31 23:25:16 heh, INCOMPATIBLE_MACHINE is funny when used in a distro config Dec 31 23:26:49 Skips every package? Dec 31 23:26:52 Why do we need it? Dec 31 23:27:12 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rb791a54f... 10/ (1 packages/qemu/qemu-native.inc): qemu: No need to look for sdl-config-native now Dec 31 23:27:16 I want to blacklist armv4 machine for angstrom so people use angstrom-eabi Dec 31 23:27:48 I'd just check MACHINE against a list... Dec 31 23:28:08 which probably needs an anonymous function Dec 31 23:28:25 yes. I think I had to do that with poky in the end - create poky.bbclass Dec 31 23:28:29 brb Dec 31 23:29:23 poky.bbclass is just like angstrom-mirrors.bbclass :) Dec 31 23:45:05 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1222261c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: bump SRCDATE Dec 31 23:45:30 HNY from GMT :) Dec 31 23:46:40 RP: happy new year! Dec 31 23:50:43 openembedded.org upgraded to mtn 0.32 Jan 01 00:00:26 hny Jan 01 00:00:34 I'm still waiting here Jan 01 00:01:54 for a HNY? Jan 01 00:01:55 4.5 hours to go Jan 01 00:02:13 we are going to visit friends now Jan 01 00:02:32 hopefully I get to the friends with fireowkrs for the main event Jan 01 00:02:54 The weather here makes going out for fireworks pointless :-/ Jan 01 00:03:11 you americans already have 4th of july for fireworks Jan 01 00:03:37 we'll take any excuse to blow stuff up. *(-; Jan 01 00:03:59 wow Jan 01 00:04:13 mtn annotate is actually usable with 0.32 Jan 01 00:04:24 that is fantastic news. Jan 01 00:04:41 * koen time mtn-0.32 annotate base.bbclass Jan 01 00:06:06 real 1m35.415suser 1m16.635ssys 0m3.515s Jan 01 00:06:11 instead of 6 hours Jan 01 00:06:44 That's quite some improvement :) Jan 01 00:07:10 0.32 cache part of the toposort in the db Jan 01 00:08:09 quite some improvement as in "it's actually useful"! :) Jan 01 00:08:09 useful on a <100GHz machine Jan 01 00:08:29 My 100GHz machine is in the shop ;) Jan 01 00:08:41 hey, and there is a (masked) 0.32 ebuild file for gentoo already! Jan 01 00:09:26 * koen recommends reading http://venge.net/monotone/NEWS Jan 01 00:11:01 koen I think mtn should get rid of sqlite :) Jan 01 00:11:31 Urgh. Needs another database migration step... last one took all night on my machine ('cause my 100GHz one is "in the shop" ;) ) Jan 01 00:11:39 chouimat|ibook: you can use postgres as a backend :) Jan 01 00:11:46 koen really? Jan 01 00:12:02 chouimat|ibook: yes, someone implemented it Jan 01 00:12:32 heh Jan 01 00:12:37 koen if it does like amarok (with my 20K+ collections) it will be a nice speed improvement Jan 01 00:12:41 annotate shows a lot of "a9e89996.. by koen 2005-06-30" Jan 01 00:12:47 * koen wrote OE in one day Jan 01 00:13:25 RP: NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.1-r9: task do_compile: started Jan 01 00:13:37 koen: How many files remain untouched since then out of interest? Jan 01 00:13:56 RP: a lot Jan 01 00:14:19 RP: but Laibsch removed whitespace from 900 files today :) Jan 01 00:15:10 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r08158e66... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp: 2.6.19+git update to 2.6.10-rc2, fix mainline breakage, make hx2000 work again Jan 01 00:15:31 koen: I nuked 46 files just cleaning up tslib ;-) Jan 01 00:16:42 I had poky running on the hx2750 yesterday. I wish I had time to finish that port :-/ Jan 01 00:18:00 * HopsNBarley starts emerge monotone-0.32 Jan 01 00:18:48 RP: put a big SD in it and use it as a native compile system Jan 01 00:19:25 Funnily enough it was running off an ext2 partition on an SD card :) Jan 01 00:19:47 NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r4: task do_compile: started Jan 01 00:20:11 koen: The test would be whether e-image still works... Jan 01 00:20:40 The efl stuff makes the most use of the -config files Jan 01 00:20:56 It worked for me - I built my first ever e-image :) Jan 01 00:21:13 the problem with that is that justinp is one of them oz354x people Jan 01 00:21:55 You can't argue with people wanting stability... Jan 01 00:22:03 Angstrom is getting there though Jan 01 00:22:12 I'm going to really push for EABI in poky now Jan 01 00:22:34 angstrom has pretty much everything locked down Jan 01 00:22:39 and source mirrors :) Jan 01 00:23:02 I wonder how hrw's experiment turns out Jan 01 00:23:02 koen do you know where I can find it? Jan 01 00:23:07 but it uses EABI/glibc 2.5 which hasn't exactly been stable until now Jan 01 00:23:17 building angstrom for every machine in OE... Jan 01 00:23:37 * chouimat|ibook wants a new hdd ... Jan 01 00:23:52 Ultimately, I hope to have a buildbot doing things like that Jan 01 00:23:56 * koen wants a n2100 with 2x500GB Jan 01 00:24:28 koen I plan to go get a seagate 400GB ide for about 185cad ... Jan 01 00:24:56 RP: getting a test infrastructure running for OE would be nice Jan 01 00:25:22 we just need to have into the computers of holger's uni :) Jan 01 00:25:33 koen: I have buildbot running test builds against poky now Jan 01 00:26:23 RP: buildbot or tinderclient? Jan 01 00:26:49 koen: buildbot. A really simple setup where it just runs some commands like "MACHINE=c7x0 bitbake oh-image-sdk" Jan 01 00:26:58 cute Jan 01 00:27:22 Its "different" to tinderclient Jan 01 00:27:49 Ultimately I suspect OE needs something custom or something hacked to bits... Jan 01 00:29:27 bitbake-cluster (aka bakery) + bitbake-reportserver Jan 01 00:29:43 I do like the idea of a bakery :) Jan 01 00:37:39 we'll have an extra server for OE in ~1 week Jan 01 00:39:14 oesources 2.0 :) Jan 01 00:42:32 :) Jan 01 00:42:45 I suspect a poky mirror will get setup sooner or later too Jan 01 00:42:51 and a poky feed Jan 01 00:44:11 maintaining feeds is a $U*$#@ in the ass Jan 01 00:44:37 :-/ Jan 01 00:44:45 I still need a online upload tool Jan 01 00:45:45 and a ipkg-make-index that doesn't suck Jan 01 00:46:05 write one? :) Jan 01 00:48:27 * koen grumbles Jan 01 00:49:07 I've been trying to avoid package management Jan 01 00:50:33 koen: I'm still having issues w/ those kernel modules and task-base.. got any time to help out? Jan 01 00:51:24 NAbyss: you'd have to ask zaurus-master RP Jan 01 00:59:04 RP: I'm having an issue building angstrom that's been occurring over the last week.. http://oe.pastebin.com/848756 Jan 01 01:00:34 NAbyss: Wipe asoc-v0.12.4.patch from your sources dir and try again Jan 01 01:00:46 (rebuild the kernel) Jan 01 01:00:53 RP: Thanks Jan 01 01:01:07 Wolfson and myself have a patch with the same name :-/ Jan 01 01:09:07 12.6 is out Jan 01 01:09:31 13pre1 as well Jan 01 01:09:58 No real Zaurus changes now though... Jan 01 01:22:15 yo Jan 01 01:22:18 so it is 2007 Jan 01 01:22:23 happy new year guys Jan 01 01:22:28 this year will ROCK for us all Jan 01 01:22:31 mickey|NYparty: happy new year Jan 01 01:22:34 mickey|NYparty: HNY :) Jan 01 01:23:04 * mickey|NYparty finger aching Jan 01 01:23:13 from playing two hours 12-string Jan 01 01:23:44 mickey|NYparty: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/000960.html Jan 01 01:24:01 hehe Jan 01 01:24:52 i hope we'll get a new ETA statement from Sean these days Jan 01 01:25:08 and news about the b-word Jan 01 01:25:13 yeah. Jan 01 01:25:36 I'm going to pester him Jan 01 01:26:00 and I'm curius what the 'big suprise' is sean was talking about Jan 01 01:26:34 when did he say that? Jan 01 01:27:55 mickey|NYparty: iirc you said that sean said that ... Jan 01 01:28:07 heh, oh Jan 01 01:28:11 can't remember offhand Jan 01 01:28:18 perhaps something about v2 Jan 01 01:28:31 yes, something about v2 Jan 01 01:28:38 * koen hopes its not a fpga Jan 01 01:28:46 heh, it's no Jan 01 01:28:47 t Jan 01 01:29:00 can't tell but I was shocked when he told me Jan 01 01:29:02 :) Jan 01 01:29:06 (positively, that is) Jan 01 01:29:15 but I'm afraid he won't tell until v1 is out Jan 01 01:29:32 i wish it already was that point of time anyway Jan 01 01:29:33 * koen gets a 6-pack and heads to taipei Jan 01 01:30:47 RP: I think we better don't look into Uboot on the Z. the old bootloader seems to be good enough together with altboot and kexec Jan 01 01:31:14 mickey|NYparty: Agreed Jan 01 01:31:33 mickey|NYparty: initramfs + kexectools Jan 01 01:32:01 initramfs has the problem that it makes the kernel images too large for angelboot Jan 01 01:32:22 remove some drivers that aren't needed for kexecing stuff Jan 01 01:32:23 hey mickey, any idea what this opie2 thing ljp is doing is? Jan 01 01:33:00 ggilbert_: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=opie Jan 01 01:33:17 ggilbert: cheers. yes i know. ljp seems wanting to fork qtopia4 gpl and make opie2 out of that. what exactly his plans are... no one knows. I don't think there is a roadmap yet, although there should be, if he wants people to join the effort Jan 01 01:33:34 ah Jan 01 01:34:06 at this point of time i'd rather see opie2 being a set of additional applications than a fork Jan 01 01:34:20 not that it would matter for me personally, i'm not going to be involved Jan 01 01:34:24 kind of strange that ljp would do it as a fork :) Jan 01 01:35:06 http://handhelds.org/hypermail/opie-devel/31/3192.html Jan 01 01:35:31 woah oliver is alive Jan 01 01:35:40 fork..branch..whatever.. Jan 01 01:35:41 yeah, i was surprised of that as well Jan 01 01:35:56 he doesn't seem to be very vocal though. i tried to discuss, but he doesn't want to Jan 01 01:35:58 ya. opie devs coming out of the woodwork Jan 01 01:36:04 i wonder what he was up to the years Jan 01 01:36:06 *shrug* Jan 01 01:37:17 oh and happy new years to anyone who is already in 2007 Jan 01 01:37:23 to you too, thanks Jan 01 01:37:31 already 12 hours old!! Jan 01 01:38:12 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc45af8ae... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.19+git: Fix hx2000 suspend/resume Jan 01 01:39:13 * mickeyl wanders off to bed Jan 01 01:39:19 c'ya tomorrow Jan 01 01:39:21 * RP too Jan 01 01:39:25 'night mickeyl Jan 01 01:40:32 * koen heads to bed as well **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 01 02:59:59 2007