**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 13 02:59:57 2007 Jan 13 05:21:35 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * rb82c868c... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): Jan 13 05:21:35 usermanual: More updated for the recipes chapter: Jan 13 05:21:35 - Remove the structure section, it doesn't really fit in this chapter. Jan 13 05:21:35 - Fill in the introduction part of the directories section. Jan 13 05:21:35 - Fill out the packaging section. Jan 13 06:07:44 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * rc53b66d2... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): (log message trimmed) Jan 13 06:07:44 usermanual: Update for the recipes chapter: Jan 13 06:07:44 - Add a "this section to be completed" to start of each uncompleted section, Jan 13 06:07:44 followed by a bullet list of what will go in the section. This should make Jan 13 06:07:51 it ok to add to the main document even while some of these are not completed Jan 13 06:07:51 yet. Jan 13 06:07:51 - Some cleanups on the volatiles section. Jan 13 06:14:16 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r4d12f435... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): usermanual: Link the recipes chapter into the main document. Jan 13 10:52:53 XorA|sleep: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky?rev=1140&view=rev :) Jan 13 10:56:31 koen: We at htc-linux has talked about haveing a common machine.conf for the htc-pxa phone devices. Is it doabel? Jan 13 10:56:46 Do you think it is the way to go Jan 13 10:56:56 because a lot of the machines has alot in common Jan 13 10:57:12 I don't think that's the way to go Jan 13 10:57:19 It,s just events and the /dev/ttySx wich are diffrent Jan 13 10:57:26 Why? Jan 13 10:57:48 we did that for ipaqs a while back and it didn't work out Jan 13 10:58:12 "OMG!!! I have htc-universal-keys.ko but I have a blueangel!!!!! You suck!!!!" Jan 13 10:58:41 I c Jan 13 10:59:41 and what happens if htc-hermes need 2.6.20 and htc-sable is broken in 2.6.20? Jan 13 11:02:23 Someone has has suggested that machine related modules shouldnt be installed with OE. It should be added after the image is finished. But i know that you guys dont like that. Jan 13 11:03:48 goxboxlive: if you do that, you still end up with as much different images as there are htc machines Jan 13 11:04:20 goxboxlive: in a way multimachine.bbclass does that Jan 13 11:04:41 i c Jan 13 11:05:10 (which is enabled by default in angstrom) Jan 13 11:07:28 We are trying to make a common kernel defconfig file. I guess we have to ave that working before we attempt to try it out. But, since it is tried out before then i guess it just wasted time. Jan 13 11:08:19 goxboxlive: a common defconfig makes sense Jan 13 11:08:46 goxboxlive: psokolovsky's defconfigman should help with that Jan 13 11:08:54 goxboxlive: this is what I use: http://rafb.net/p/AOgg2S80.html Jan 13 11:09:11 yes i know. We will try to make that . Jan 13 12:15:03 goxboxlive: there are advantages and disadvantages to a common kernel. i recommend only using a common kernel when you have like flash/ram/gpio differences, but that's it. see c7x0 kernels. if you have more differences, the in practice the benefits are not worth it IMO. Jan 13 12:16:23 ok, i'll forward it to cr2 Jan 13 12:19:21 mickeyl: guten morgen! Jan 13 12:19:34 gute morgen koen :) Jan 13 12:19:41 guten, even Jan 13 12:21:37 <[cc]smart> mickeyl: could you check for me if my monotone key should still be able to write ? Jan 13 12:21:51 <[cc]smart> or tell me how i can verify myself Jan 13 12:24:14 let me check Jan 13 12:25:26 what's your email address? Jan 13 12:25:31 or key nickname, rather Jan 13 12:26:00 cheers tmbinc Jan 13 12:26:15 hey mickeyl Jan 13 12:27:05 tmbinc: got myself a dvb-T tuner. is it straightforward swapping it against one of the built-in sat. ones? Jan 13 12:27:46 yeah should be Jan 13 12:28:11 cool, thanks. will do the "operation" next week Jan 13 12:28:21 surgery Jan 13 12:34:48 mickeyl: did you get my mail with the fstests results? Jan 13 12:35:29 koen: yes, thanks. that's interesting. i wonder why the h2200 is so slow given it's a 400MHz xscale Jan 13 12:36:09 mickeyl: 16bit bus at 100MHz Jan 13 12:36:13 yeah Jan 13 12:36:21 that's the bottleneck Jan 13 12:36:37 dunno how the fb runs on the s3c2410 Jan 13 12:36:40 do you? Jan 13 12:36:54 judging from you numbers 32bit at 200MHz Jan 13 12:37:03 like the w3220fb in the hx4700 Jan 13 12:37:05 ~30MB/s Jan 13 12:37:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3c96b014... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: make kernel version overridable via machine.conf of local.conf Jan 13 12:39:32 [cc]smart: what's your key address? Jan 13 12:41:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r91b2ffc8... 10/ (1 packages/eds/eds-dbus_svn.bb): eds-dbus: add intltool-native to DEPENDS, closes #1786 Jan 13 12:49:45 <[cc]smart> mickeyl: ccsmart Jan 13 12:50:20 as far as I can see your key is no longer in OE Jan 13 12:50:44 could it be that you didn't commit since our db migration ? Jan 13 12:50:53 <[cc]smart> probably Jan 13 12:51:07 ok, then please send it again to koen and me Jan 13 12:51:16 <[cc]smart> last time i was active on OE could be about 1.5 years Jan 13 12:51:21 ah right Jan 13 12:51:22 heh Jan 13 12:51:27 what were you up to in the last months? Jan 13 12:51:30 lazy guy ; Jan 13 12:51:30 ) Jan 13 12:51:32 :) Jan 13 12:51:40 <[cc]smart> guilty Jan 13 12:52:05 hmm, I think I see his key on my copy of the db? Jan 13 12:52:49 hmm odd i don't Jan 13 12:52:57 oe@serenity:~$ mtn-0.30 --db=monotone/OE.mtn.0.30 list keys|grep ccsmart Jan 13 12:53:01 $ Jan 13 12:53:27 e6217cecabec4c4619c7cf9f9a8719c2b5feeced cbrake@openembedded.org Jan 13 12:53:28 deae6aa5db91bb768c0aa6a2fb2fa1f8658dc13b ccsmart@openembedded.org Jan 13 12:53:28 03052bceb00f543e9de904c818201181bfb24c24 ccsmart@smartpal.de Jan 13 12:53:28 93d8c9640e5828222d19e4b8b3f6c5fac7576771 clarson@kergoth.com Jan 13 12:53:34 ? Jan 13 12:53:53 is this output from list keys? Jan 13 12:53:57 yeah Jan 13 12:54:16 your method was cooler :) Jan 13 12:54:26 <[cc]smart> :P Jan 13 12:55:01 odd. as I've did this right on the OE main server i guess this output is the official word ;) Jan 13 12:55:37 you want "oe@serenity:~/monotone$ mtn --db=OE.mtn list keys | grep cc" Jan 13 12:55:50 what does that output? Jan 13 12:56:38 mtn-0.32 --db=OE.mtn list keys | grep cc shows nothing Jan 13 12:57:22 this is weird, because I get ccmsrt and some fingerprints with cc in them Jan 13 12:57:31 I need coffee Jan 13 13:00:24 hehe Jan 13 13:00:31 perhaps your mtn works differently Jan 13 13:00:47 of course there are keys in the db since ccsmart did commit stuff in the past years Jan 13 13:00:57 but it's not the server access keys Jan 13 13:00:59 *shrug* Jan 13 13:01:09 [cc]smart: just send your key again and we'll add it Jan 13 13:01:42 0.32 Jan 13 13:02:06 ccsmart, what sort of things do you work on? Jan 13 13:02:08 <[cc]smart> to @oe.org ? Jan 13 13:02:28 <[cc]smart> daemon configuration Jan 13 13:02:33 <[cc]smart> cyrus, postfix Jan 13 13:02:50 <[cc]smart> now i want to add the tools for the logitech g15 keyboard Jan 13 13:02:55 ah Jan 13 13:03:03 <[cc]smart> i would like to use the g15 as a consle to the slug Jan 13 13:03:12 <[cc]smart> do you know the g15 ? Jan 13 13:03:18 no Jan 13 13:03:25 <[cc]smart> it's sold as a gaming keybord Jan 13 13:03:28 ah Jan 13 13:03:31 <[cc]smart> the point is it has a builtin lcd display Jan 13 13:03:38 hello Jan 13 13:03:42 <[cc]smart> that ones is graphical and controlled via usb Jan 13 13:03:50 <[cc]smart> as well, there is linux support already Jan 13 13:04:14 that would be cool Jan 13 13:04:17 [cc]smart: to koen@linuxtogo.org + cc:mickeyl@linuxtogo.org Jan 13 13:04:17 <[cc]smart> so i would like it to be an all in one console to the slug, using it's lcd for output Jan 13 13:04:22 saves me from fixing my serial lead Jan 13 13:04:44 <[cc]smart> well serial will probably still be the one and only for the bootphase :) Jan 13 13:06:17 mickeyl: good morning Jan 13 13:06:30 good morning pb_! Jan 13 13:06:45 pb_: any problems with the Hurricane or is your house safe? Jan 13 13:07:16 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * reb2b566b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add gtk-theme-torturer, a stress test and benchmark utility for gtk themes Jan 13 13:08:43 mickeyl: no hurricane here. it was a little windy earlier in the week, and I think I have lost some roof tiles from my porch, but no problem other than that. Jan 13 13:08:47 I think the really bad weather was further north. Jan 13 13:08:54 ah, right. good for you Jan 13 13:10:46 [Cc]smart: key added Jan 13 13:12:41 rmoning Jan 13 13:12:58 hey hrw Jan 13 13:13:01 psokolovsky: rx3000 defconfig create do_configure loop for me Jan 13 13:13:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r31a6c646... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-theme-torturer/gtk-theme-torturer_git.bb): gtk-theme-torturer: fix DEPENS Jan 13 13:14:28 -rw-rw-r-- 1 hrw hrw 72G Jan 13 05:40 tmp/work/rx3000-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.19-hh8-r0/temp/log.do_configure.7253 Jan 13 13:14:32 ~lart psokolovsky Jan 13 13:14:33 * ibot takes a big bite out of psokolovsky's jugular vein Jan 13 13:18:11 ouch !!! devil ibot !!! Jan 13 13:21:22 heh Jan 13 13:24:05 mickeyl: I'll send you the output of 'torturer -t -X' on the h2200 and hx4700 by mail Jan 13 13:24:14 koen: great, thanks! Jan 13 13:24:28 * mickeyl thinks a cool name for an executable Jan 13 13:24:32 bbiab Jan 13 13:24:36 hm. I have to finally start X on progear to test some things Jan 13 13:24:59 mickeyl: what kind of app? Jan 13 13:25:16 torturer is a gtk theme torturer / benchmark app Jan 13 13:26:04 mickeyl: 'unnamed executable' app Jan 13 13:28:11 ~botmail to psokolovsky please do test build before pushing kernel configs - rx3000/2.6.19-hh8 has too many unanswered questions to be updated by someone not familiar with hardware. Jan 13 13:28:46 heh Jan 13 13:28:59 michaelo send me a snailmail new years card Jan 13 13:29:45 apparent;y it's the year of the pengium in finnish astrology Jan 13 13:30:13 !oebug 1766 Jan 13 13:30:14 * * Bug 1766, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-07 03:05 Jan 13 13:30:15 * * openembedded(AT)hrw.one.pl: a1200 lack kernel defconfig Jan 13 13:30:16 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1766 Jan 13 13:30:32 koen: you told that you will take care of it ;D Jan 13 13:30:46 hrw: florian managed to build a kernel for a1200 so he'll push a defconfig + kernel recipe soon Jan 13 13:30:53 cool Jan 13 13:30:58 * koen delegated it to florian :) Jan 13 13:31:20 commented bug Jan 13 13:39:28 cu Jan 13 13:52:33 hrm, drat, I have the qemu segfault of death. Jan 13 13:52:40 hi zecke Jan 13 14:47:43 hi tnb Jan 13 14:47:51 hi pb_ Jan 13 14:53:40 mickeyl: hey! congratulation on your phd progress Jan 13 14:55:36 zecke: heya. thanks. one step forward... now waiting for the circulation to end and then I can get my appointment Jan 13 14:59:30 zecke: do you know if the 2 SIMpad LEDs are connected to 2 of the 10 ucb chip gpios? Jan 13 15:03:20 out of the head, I don't Jan 13 15:03:46 zecke: no problem - thx anyway Jan 13 15:12:47 could anyone please do Jan 13 15:13:09 ipkg file /usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/gpe-logo.png Jan 13 15:13:09 mickeyl: do what? Jan 13 15:13:15 (someone running gpe) Jan 13 15:13:24 i need to find out which ipkg this file belongs to Jan 13 15:13:55 can't find something like gpe-common Jan 13 15:14:05 and gpe-sketchbook apparantly SIGSEGVs without this file Jan 13 15:14:06 mickeyl: gpewidget? Jan 13 15:14:12 libgpewidget is installed Jan 13 15:16:27 gpe-icons, probably Jan 13 15:16:55 it's a bit sad that gpe-sketchbook crashes if it isn't there, though. Jan 13 15:16:58 ~lart luc Jan 13 15:16:58 * ibot whacks luc upside the head Jan 13 15:17:55 ah, thanks Jan 13 15:17:57 * mickeyl bitbake gpe-icons Jan 13 15:22:12 hmm still SIGSEGVs pretty early Jan 13 15:32:02 oh dear Jan 13 15:32:10 what's the strace output leading up to the crash? Jan 13 15:32:52 mickeyl: catchsegv gpe-sketchbook? Jan 13 15:33:05 I'd like to add gomunicator to the magician angstrom image by default. Should this be done with the task infrastructure via some MACHINE_FEATURE "phone" or similar? Jan 13 15:33:22 s/angstrom image/angstrom-gpe-image/ Jan 13 15:39:10 koen: how long is torture supposed to run on a PDA? Jan 13 15:41:09 mickeyl: I have no idea Jan 13 15:41:16 it just seems to hang Jan 13 15:41:21 same here Jan 13 15:41:29 well, i let it run Jan 13 15:41:34 same here Jan 13 15:41:47 pH5: yes Jan 13 15:42:04 pH5: I added 'phone' to MACHINE_FEATURES a while ago Jan 13 15:42:47 koen: oh, I didn't notice. thanks. Jan 13 15:44:25 pH5: did you see https://svn.jerryweb.org/public/mkphone/trunk/ already? Jan 13 15:44:48 it needs https://svn.jerryweb.org/public/mkezx/trunk/packages/gnokii/patches/ Jan 13 15:45:04 * koen can't wait till libgsmd gets released + mokodialer Jan 13 15:45:40 koen: ack! (I wasn't aware of mkphone) Jan 13 17:11:51 morning Jan 13 17:12:24 ah Jan 13 17:12:32 I was waiting for you :-P Jan 13 17:12:59 Good thing you sent 4 caps. One was crushed and apparently leaking ;) Jan 13 17:15:05 NAiL: Could you see which one? I only replaced three. Jan 13 17:15:18 NAiL: but I still have the same boot problems etc. Jan 13 17:15:42 NAiL: Ah, you mean one of the 4 caps I sent you was crushed? Jan 13 17:17:00 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * r6cd1d937... 10/ (1 packages/libg15 packages/libg15/libg15_1.2.1.bb): libg15: added new package Jan 13 17:20:34 likewise: yes. So I had exactly enough to replace the busted caps. Jan 13 17:20:52 I'm still having odd boot problems though Jan 13 17:21:37 Appears to be related to acpi or pci. I can't figure out what it is. Jan 13 17:30:54 greetings Jan 13 17:34:11 likewise: Do you have any idea of whether any of the other epia M(or MII)10k boards will work with linuxbios? I can't get mine working, so I think I'll have to get a replacement board. Jan 13 18:21:01 NAiL: I only know the M10K works and the M6K should work. Jan 13 18:28:36 likewise: ok, thanks Jan 13 18:48:37 hello. Its my first time in this irc and i have some questions about testing my created rootfs or image. I have read and played with qemu but i can't get it working. I have created my own disti (x86) and now i want to test it Jan 13 18:52:03 also i have some questions about how to create an install iso with my rootfs.tar.gz. Did any disti don't use to write the image directly into the flash? Jan 13 18:57:08 http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/42-Cairo-performance-on-small-devices.html Jan 13 20:48:50 hmm. openmoko website changed since last time I was there.. Jan 13 20:49:25 mickey|party: do I have to write about my embedded Linux projects to you^Wcoreteam of openmoko or not? Jan 13 21:00:01 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r39d8027a... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): Jan 13 21:00:01 usermanual: Write the content for the "Installation scripts" section in the Jan 13 21:00:01 recipes chapter. Jan 13 21:13:06 Im trying hard to get a debug environment working (with only non-stripped libraries) any good way to accomplish this besides adding -gdb packages? Jan 13 21:54:22 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * rfaedb769... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): Jan 13 21:54:22 usermanual: Write the content for the "using python" section in the Jan 13 21:54:22 recipes chapter. Jan 13 22:23:16 Whats this? Is it a bug that i shoul add to the tracker, or is it a internal one. I have a clean OE.dev metadata. I am trying to build gpe-mini-browser: http://pastebin.ca/315810 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 14 02:59:57 2007