**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 19 02:59:58 2007 Jan 19 03:00:37 * JustinP makes a lot of guesses Jan 19 08:32:25 morning Jan 19 08:37:41 <_law_> hi XorA Jan 19 08:38:39 good morning all Jan 19 08:46:38 goor morning koen Jan 19 09:10:16 morning all Jan 19 09:10:23 hey RP Jan 19 09:11:06 RP: what's your though on OE creating either customized updater.sh files or a bit more intelligent updater.sh files? Jan 19 09:11:37 RP: so people can just put deploy/images/c7x0 on cf and if will flash without having to rename stuff Jan 19 09:11:59 koen: Fine with me Jan 19 09:13:01 ok, 1 maintainer convinced :) Jan 19 09:13:13 koen: I've been having fun with OE image names and the poky userspace qemu image execution script, its not as easy as it sounds Jan 19 09:13:56 Where userspace is a rather strange definition of being used outside poky... :-/ Jan 19 09:14:40 RP: the easiest way would be just to do "cp $IMAGENAME initrd.bin" in EXTRA_IMG_CMD Jan 19 09:14:51 that would make sure the latest image will get flashed Jan 19 09:15:08 koen: just use shar and bind all the data up in the updater.sh Jan 19 09:15:45 koen: That will just be confusing as you'll have no idea which image was copied to initrd.bin Jan 19 09:16:13 (koen I know we would, but your average user won't) Jan 19 09:16:23 Right Jan 19 09:19:31 I'm trying to find a way to cut down on all the manual labour involved with making OE generated stuff flashable Jan 19 09:20:06 koen: This was partly why I created the symlinks Jan 19 09:20:42 right, but I think most people use FAT(32) cf cards :( Jan 19 09:21:29 koen: You have to do that, but the symlinks give you a pointer at the last image. We then just need an OE command to copy the files to a given location, renaming them on route Jan 19 09:22:20 ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/${IMAGENAME}-installkit/ ? Jan 19 09:23:24 and slightly related to that, what about using a kexec+initramfs kernel on spitz that boots a kernel from MD? Jan 19 09:24:22 koen: We don't have the space Jan 19 09:24:51 koen: How about ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/${MACHINE}-installme Jan 19 09:26:02 dont have room for initramfs, but we could write a cramfs to flash Jan 19 09:42:13 morning Jan 19 09:42:19 hey hrw|work Jan 19 09:42:32 koen: if you want to write better updater.sh then start from the one which I added into bugtracker Jan 19 09:43:04 koen: CoreDump also has some changes in his updater script Jan 19 09:52:01 good morning Jan 19 09:52:20 hey hrw|work Jan 19 09:52:36 hi hrw|work, florian_ Jan 19 09:57:43 * hrw|work bought 20" lcd today Jan 19 09:58:21 1680x1050 looks nice Jan 19 09:58:40 hrw|work: lucky bugger Jan 19 09:59:03 * mickeyl envies hrw Jan 19 09:59:07 morning btw. Jan 19 09:59:12 ~change 999 pln to eur Jan 19 09:59:19 999.00 Zloty (PLN) makes 259.554 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) Jan 19 09:59:20 too expensive Jan 19 09:59:25 * mickeyl needs to save Jan 19 09:59:46 speaking about saving... I will post later about it Jan 19 10:00:50 moving appartment in april, need to pay company helping with relocation, need to pay agent, deposit, redecoration Jan 19 10:00:52 *sigh* Jan 19 10:02:44 mickeyl: good morning Jan 19 10:02:49 good morning pb__ Jan 19 10:02:56 <_law_> hrw|work, no problems with this resolution? so you dont have got a intel videocard? :-) Jan 19 10:03:04 ~seen CoreDump|home Jan 19 10:03:15 morning pb__ , mickeyl Jan 19 10:03:38 coredump|home is currently on #gpe #oe #openmoko #openzaurus, last said: '~pester CoreDump|home to fix bug xyz'. Jan 19 10:03:48 hi rp Jan 19 10:05:16 _law_: ati x200 integrated into chipset Jan 19 10:13:21 * koen has a look at the pulseaudio recipe Jan 19 10:20:38 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2007/01/19/samsung-205b-wide/ Jan 19 10:21:02 hrw|work: we have the same in the office Jan 19 10:21:36 my matrox g550 can't do the native resolution though Jan 19 10:22:08 zecke: driver lack or hardware? Jan 19 10:22:54 hardware lack Jan 19 10:23:04 hrw|work: congrats with the new display :) Jan 19 10:23:12 hi zecke Jan 19 10:23:52 thx ArjanS Jan 19 10:29:32 koen: read my latest mail on openmoko Jan 19 10:30:08 the one from yesterday? Jan 19 10:30:46 ah Jan 19 10:30:51 ~lart slow mailservers Jan 19 10:30:51 * ibot moos at slow mailservers Jan 19 10:30:55 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001548.html Jan 19 10:30:59 koen: just sent one Jan 19 10:31:08 koen: that one Jan 19 10:32:23 oooh Jan 19 10:32:31 drupal5 admin is a lot nices as 4.7 Jan 19 10:32:45 nicer* Jan 19 10:53:43 hrw|work: "Wide" is something different ;) Jan 19 10:53:45 cbrake: nice article on website Jan 19 10:54:01 florian: I used vendor name Jan 19 10:54:45 I was not really easy to find a nice wallpaper for my 3200x1024 desktop :-) Jan 19 10:55:03 no gloating Jan 19 10:55:12 koen: is it easy to upgrade? Jan 19 10:56:42 * florian should shut up and do something useful Jan 19 11:03:23 ~lart libtool Jan 19 11:03:23 * ibot DoSes libtool Jan 19 11:08:15 florian: pretty easy Jan 19 11:08:51 koen: then we maybe should do that some time Jan 19 11:15:08 hrw|work: btw, remove the emptu kernel-image files from the oz feeds, saves people some trouble Jan 19 11:17:32 fsck.. I removed _MTN dir... Jan 19 11:18:11 hrw|work: thanks! Jan 19 11:18:23 cbrake: and that reminds me about one rfc Jan 19 11:20:06 florian: wide is <50mm right? Jan 19 11:24:41 koen: :-) Jan 19 11:47:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1d90f8b3... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.2.bb): pulseaudio: fix packaging Jan 19 11:55:14 greetings ! Jan 19 11:59:33 hi Ifaistos Jan 19 12:06:22 03pb 07org.oe.dev * r3e5b35d7... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Jan 19 12:06:22 xserver-xorg: put .la files in -dev, .debug files in -dbg, dmx files in -dmx, Xnest in Jan 19 12:06:22 -xnest. Jan 19 12:06:47 pb__: master! Jan 19 12:06:55 zecke: hello Jan 19 12:09:07 pb__ are you in a different timezone now, you are hardly ever here these days Jan 19 12:09:22 no, same timezone Jan 19 12:09:29 just occupied with other things Jan 19 12:10:04 03pb 07org.oe.dev * r2109f5a7... 10/ (1 packages/openchrome/openchrome_svn.bb): openchrome: also depend on libxvmc Jan 19 12:10:11 03pb 07org.oe.dev * r623ea3af... 10/ (1 packages/mythfront/mythfront-config.bb): mythfront-config: depend on font-misc-misc, not (unbuildable) xfonts-xorg Jan 19 12:10:40 ade|desk: not timezones, think 3d Jan 19 12:11:03 any ucslugc guy around? Jan 19 12:19:43 hmm ucslugc does not build anymore and fails within uclibc Jan 19 12:20:00 it looks like it does not like the generic kernel headers at all... Jan 19 12:26:19 which uclibc is it looking for 0.9.28 or dated svn ? Jan 19 12:26:59 hello Jan 19 12:27:01 ade|desk: 0.9.28 checks for UTS_RELEASE in version.h Jan 19 12:27:35 I've problems with building linux-libc-headers (unmet dependencies) Jan 19 12:27:52 where can I find a detail error about that one? Jan 19 12:28:19 gosh i wish mike would release 0.9.29 so we can move away fro 0.9.28 and non clean kernel headers Jan 19 12:29:04 in log.rootfs.xxx it only says unment dependencies, but details about the error i can't find Jan 19 12:29:43 ade|desk: aye Jan 19 12:30:37 perhaps a /j #uclibc , attack is not the best way forward ;) Jan 19 12:32:12 ade|desk: should I give the svn version a try? Jan 19 12:33:16 zecke you will need to remove the thumb patches, as they are in there already (ish) and update the config for the target Jan 19 12:35:43 ade|desk: pssst Jan 19 12:35:48 ade|desk: check the .bb Jan 19 12:36:23 perhaps at the weekend ;) Jan 19 12:36:23 SRC_URI += "svn://uclibc.org/trunk;module=uClibc" Jan 19 12:36:23 SRC_URI += " file://error_print_progname.patch;patch=1" Jan 19 12:36:30 I removed the thumb patches months ago Jan 19 12:49:47 hi all Jan 19 12:57:13 morning Jan 19 13:02:01 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * ra883397c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Jan 19 13:02:01 packages/nbd/nbd: Update to nbd client 2.8.7 Jan 19 13:02:01 2.8.7 should only be a bugfix update and in contrast Jan 19 13:02:01 to 2.8.4 it compiles with the sanitized kernel headers Jan 19 13:17:38 koen: i hadn't noticed , sorry Jan 19 13:23:55 mickeyl: good morning! Jan 19 13:24:00 cheers koen Jan 19 13:24:08 * mickeyl sips a cup of coffee to celebrate the morning Jan 19 13:26:45 2nd day of NAMM'07 Jan 19 13:27:34 checking for new synths? Jan 19 13:27:54 what does ?= mean in the distro config file? Jan 19 13:28:12 it's like = Jan 19 13:28:16 but only if previously unset Jan 19 13:28:24 michiel_: if(!isset(FOO)){FOO = bar} Jan 19 13:28:28 ok, thanks Jan 19 14:02:29 on building (2.6.19 kernel with linux-libc-header2.6.18+2.6.19-rc1) i get an error "cannot satisfy linux-libc-headers", but on "bitbake linux-libc-headers" it will build correctly Jan 19 14:02:34 what could be the problem? Jan 19 14:11:05 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r58456f9a... 10/ (1 packages/initscripts/initscripts_1.0.bb): initscripts: bump PR so people can get the fixed populate-volatile.sh via their favourite package manager Jan 19 14:16:02 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r5ab29d04... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules,dm7025: update drivers to 20070119 to fix another CI issue Jan 19 14:16:05 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r7b366475... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: update to rel2.2, 20070120 Jan 19 14:16:09 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r01461878... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2-plugins.bb): enigma2-plugins: update to 20070120 Jan 19 14:16:12 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1fa921b8... 10/ (1 packages/images/dreambox-image.bb): dreambox-image: add PicturePlayer plugin Jan 19 14:16:32 we lack help2man... Jan 19 14:22:56 http://bash.org/?4424 Jan 19 14:25:00 michiel_: check who has the dependency on the headers? Jan 19 14:25:13 michiel_: ${TMPDIR}/deploy/ipk/Packages... Jan 19 14:25:54 fsck. Jan 19 14:26:09 to build autoconf 2.61 help2man is required. help2man require perl Jan 19 14:26:24 ~lart rhel Jan 19 14:26:25 * ibot judo chops rhel Jan 19 14:27:19 seems like that should be optional ,,, Jan 19 14:37:55 zecke: in that folder i see some ipk packages, but how can I see the dependencies? Jan 19 14:38:26 michiel_: see above, Packages is a file... Jan 19 14:38:33 michiel_: open or print it Jan 19 14:38:55 zecke: Ow sorry, didn't understand it.. I shall check Jan 19 14:39:54 michiel_: also read or print the ipkg manual ;) Jan 19 14:42:15 zecke: it seems that it's mixing up linux-libc-headers and linux-libc-headers-dev Jan 19 14:42:43 michiel_: okay then fix it? :) Jan 19 14:42:56 michiel_: normally I would ask who is 'it' but I'm nice today Jan 19 14:44:09 zecke: nice to hear ;) Jan 19 14:45:47 taskbase depends on linux-libc-headers instead of linux-libc-headers-dev, or it could also be the other way arround, but I have to find out now Jan 19 14:47:05 ok, I changed that and now it builds successfull Jan 19 14:47:39 I'm going to check the config file, because I could made an mistake in a package name Jan 19 14:48:15 michiel_: okay, now you simply sticked the finger into someone's arse. better fix the issue behind Jan 19 14:49:13 zecke: please don't say it to anyone ;) Jan 19 14:49:38 zecke: It feels like monday-morning Jan 19 14:58:29 Hello Jan 19 14:59:28 hey sirfred Jan 19 15:00:09 Getting into trouble trying to build gpe-image : portmap-5-24-r0 Jan 19 15:00:27 It seems ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/portmap/portmap_5-24.diff.gz no longer exists Jan 19 15:01:54 Also, yesterday I got the idea to have a good gpe based snes9x frontend. Jan 19 15:02:22 sirfred: we need to update to 5-25 Jan 19 15:02:29 So, I was looking at the web, and also found a gsnes9x project, based in gtk+-1.2, that seems abandoned. Jan 19 15:02:49 sirfred: INHERIT += "angstrom-mirrors" in local.conf Jan 19 15:03:02 koen: Thanks. Jan 19 15:03:44 The idea of a frontend seems a little "dirty" to me, so I wonder if there's some way to build a gtk+ + libSDL application Jan 19 15:04:20 I mean, is there a way to have a gpe or gtk+ app, and relay into libSDL to paint the area for the game itself ? Jan 19 15:05:26 I'm afraid that's incompatible, as both gtk+ and libSDL are at the same level on X Jan 19 15:06:00 Perhaps what's needed is a gtk+ SDL driver or something so Jan 19 15:06:21 I guess it could be done. Gtk supports "external" widgets via the GtkPlug/GtkSocket mechanism. Jan 19 15:06:33 You'd need to write a wrapper for libSDL that made it look like a GtkPlug. Jan 19 15:07:01 pb__: Hmm, perhaps something like this: Jan 19 15:07:14 http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtksdl/ Jan 19 15:07:14 http://gtksdl.sourceforge.net/about.html Jan 19 15:07:14 heh Jan 19 15:07:26 * koen too slow Jan 19 15:07:33 It seems a little abandoned. Jan 19 15:07:33 koen: :) Jan 19 15:07:53 GtkPlug and GtkSocket work nicely Jan 19 15:08:17 cool Jan 19 15:08:18 That seems an ideal solution, better than having dirty frontends for every sdl app Jan 19 15:09:19 sirfred: GtkSocket/Plug has only one pitfal. It must be embedded into GtkWindow before you can assign it any WId Jan 19 15:09:48 zecke: I'm a gtk newbie (to be optimistic) Jan 19 15:09:56 zecke: I don't understand the implications of that. ;-( Jan 19 15:10:02 :-( even Jan 19 15:10:21 nokia had some x extension that told X to keep its hand of a certain region so you could paint to the framebuffer Jan 19 15:10:58 koen: Direct framebuffer access is not desirable, in my opinion, we don't want to passthrough X acceleration Jan 19 15:11:04 right Jan 19 15:11:53 Yesterday, I started trying to setup something to develop gpe application natively on my desktop. Jan 19 15:12:43 The weird thing is that all my gnome apps are showed in the virtual gpe desktop. Is there a way to avoid this, perhaps using a chroot for gpe ? Jan 19 15:13:04 I was following a document at the gpe website, but it seems a little ... incomplete Jan 19 15:17:33 sirfred: yes a chroot would help Jan 19 15:17:45 sirfred: matchbox-desktop parses /usr/share/applications/ Jan 19 15:18:14 koen: ok Jan 19 15:18:52 This gtksdl thing seems simple. Just a new gtk widget Jan 19 15:20:06 What seems to me strange, is the outdated it is, perhaps there's something newer. Jan 19 15:22:46 sirfred: I'm a newbie as well Jan 19 15:23:03 zecke: So, I'm less than a newbie. ;-) Jan 19 15:23:23 sirfred: http://handhelds.org/~zecke/olpc/sugar/ (embeds a Qt widget into Gtk+ using GtkSock/Plug) Jan 19 15:23:31 sirfred: so you are nothing? come on! Jan 19 15:23:37 zecke: :) Jan 19 15:23:48 zecke: Some years ago, I made a gtk+-1 app Jan 19 15:23:55 gtk+-1.2 Jan 19 15:25:02 zecke: I've just read than GtkSocket is for embedding widgets from external apps. Jan 19 15:25:55 sirfred: this works internally as well, I'm doing this in the above case Jan 19 15:26:05 zecke: What's this URL, a svn repository? Jan 19 15:26:09 sirfred: git Jan 19 15:27:50 zecke: What client could I use to access that? Jan 19 15:27:58 zecke: On linux Jan 19 15:28:09 sirfred: git clone http://... Jan 19 15:28:32 zecke: Thanks. Let's see Jan 19 15:31:08 zecke: Unfortunately, I'm also less than a newbie on git Jan 19 15:31:25 git clone http://handhelds.org/~zecke/olpc/sugar ? Jan 19 15:33:07 sirfred: sure Jan 19 15:33:15 zecke: sexy! What activity is that? Jan 19 15:33:20 Cannot get remote repository information. Jan 19 15:33:20 Perhaps git-update-server-info needs to be run there? Jan 19 15:33:36 CosmicPenguin: none, WebKit instead of Mozilla Jan 19 15:33:52 sirfred: well, you should be able to clone anyway Jan 19 15:34:03 zecke: It gives me that error and finishes. Jan 19 15:34:05 zecke: hmmm.... interesting Jan 19 15:34:13 CosmicPenguin: but I need some time to finish this stuff, sadly the web activity does not work here... so I can not benchmark it Jan 19 15:34:40 zecke: you mean the default web activity Jan 19 15:34:49 ? Jan 19 15:34:56 CosmicPenguin: right, it just hangs and consumes all CPU Jan 19 15:35:02 CosmicPenguin: even with the stock Gecko engine Jan 19 15:35:14 wierd Jan 19 15:35:28 even on the fedora builds? Jan 19 15:35:48 03pb 07org.oe.dev * r0e20cbcc... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): mythtv: update to 0.20 Jan 19 15:35:56 CosmicPenguin: hehe, I have only tried sugar-jhbuild on my dappter Jan 19 15:35:59 ahh Jan 19 15:36:06 CosmicPenguin: do you have Fedore SDKs? Jan 19 15:37:07 http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/LATEST-STABLE-BUILD/ Jan 19 15:37:30 the EXT3 *should* work on qemu, but we seem to break that occassionally Jan 19 15:37:48 but sugar-jhbuild should work Jan 19 15:37:58 sirfred: try again Jan 19 15:38:14 Same error Jan 19 15:38:24 has anything changed in gcc-4.1.1 lately? Jan 19 15:38:46 git version 1.4.1 Jan 19 15:38:55 sirfred: git clone http://handhelds.org/~zecke/olpc/sugar/.git Jan 19 15:39:16 That's working. Thanks. Jan 19 15:39:44 look's like the matrix Jan 19 15:39:56 sirfred: hehe, I only forgot to pack these things Jan 19 15:40:03 CosmicPenguin: will try, needs some time though :} Jan 19 15:40:23 zecke: no problem. I will take a look at this, and try to understand how the thing works. Jan 19 15:40:26 zecke: Thanks a lot. Jan 19 15:40:33 bye Jan 19 15:40:52 sirfred: just grep the source for GtkPlug or GtkSocket ( I don't remember which one ) Jan 19 15:41:10 zecke: OK. I will take a look at the GTK reference manual also. Jan 19 15:42:21 zecke: I want to give your activity a try... :) Jan 19 15:42:25 see how it looks on the real hardware Jan 19 15:43:06 CosmicPenguin: actually you should see no difference. This is only WebKit instead of Gtk+ Jan 19 15:43:16 Gecko... Jan 19 15:43:17 *tired* Jan 19 15:43:27 What I *really* need to do is revisit getting sugar building in OE Jan 19 15:43:31 but I'm a lazy man Jan 19 15:45:46 meh Jan 19 15:45:55 the gallery plugin for drupal 5 is a bit broken Jan 19 15:46:26 or rather the rewrite rules it uses Jan 19 15:46:51 arm-linux-gnueabi-libtool: install: warning: remember to run `arm-linux-gnueabi-libtool --finish /usr/lib' Jan 19 15:46:56 is this a prblem? Jan 19 15:48:08 * CosmicPenguin hugs drupal Jan 19 15:48:15 and /me hugs gallery too Jan 19 15:50:33 CosmicPenguin: flickrhood is pretty sweet as well: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/flickrhood/1 Jan 19 15:50:49 after patching it a bit Jan 19 15:56:39 neat Jan 19 15:56:43 I've been very happy with drupal Jan 19 15:56:51 I should get into hacking it more Jan 19 16:13:09 CosmicPenguin: drupal 5 finally rearranged the admin console Jan 19 16:20:24 Has anything changed in library generation lately? I have some stuff that built recently, but now I am have trouble with a symbols Jan 19 16:20:34 It seems to build ok on my laptop Jan 19 16:21:24 natively Jan 19 16:32:20 if I have two packages in say oe/packages/foo and mystuff/packages/foo, and mystuff is first in the BBPATH, will bitbake always use my foo package? Ie, is that how one overrides the existing packages with customized ones? Jan 19 16:32:58 bradbev: take a look at BitBake collections Jan 19 16:33:10 bradbev: nicely described in the manual... Jan 19 16:35:03 thanks zecke. btw is the manual that you mirror the same as the berlios one? berlios has been down for me a lot Jan 19 16:35:31 bradbev: it is not, the one on my site is older Jan 19 16:35:43 but it should contain the BB Collection Documentation already Jan 19 16:35:56 ah. http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ is the newest then? Wow - it's acutally up :) Jan 19 17:02:14 hi, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, but i am looking to start programming for mobile devices, and was wondering if anyone here could tell me what the "best" programming language is for being portable between differnt mobile operating systems (windows mobile, symbian, palm os, embedded linux etc) Jan 19 17:04:45 UltraMagnus: hi, tough question. e.g. you can write portable c/c++/perl/python apps easily, as long as they do not involve UI and/or networking Jan 19 17:05:21 UltraMagnus: when it comes to a UserInterface the answer is use Java? Jan 19 17:05:50 zecke: unfortunatly, what i want to program involves both UI and networking.... Jan 19 17:06:08 Java :} Jan 19 17:07:05 does, java do WIFI? (sorry, i know nothing of java, and am still pritty new to programming) Jan 19 17:08:02 UltraMagnus: well, take a look at the OSI networking model and try to answer the question yourself Jan 19 17:08:19 * mickeyl coughs and recommends C++/Qt Jan 19 17:08:28 mickeyl: windows mobile, palm os and symbian do not have Qt ;) Jan 19 17:08:46 ah right. didn't read that part of the requirements Jan 19 17:08:54 yes, Java is the only one. Jan 19 17:09:28 and yes, the Java API library is probably rich enough to do networking Jan 19 17:10:01 After all, SUN is the network (tm) Jan 19 17:10:07 indeed :D Jan 19 17:11:07 hmm, how hard is java? compared to say ANSI C, VB6, and OPL (the languages i have experience with) Jan 19 17:11:20 pretty easy Jan 19 17:11:27 NP hart? Jan 19 17:11:48 uh? wuh? Jan 19 17:13:43 zecke: what is "NP hart"? only refrances i can find to it are in german.... Jan 19 17:13:54 a bad koke :) Jan 19 17:14:22 joke? Jan 19 17:14:40 NP is a class of problems with a certain complexity Jan 19 17:15:59 ah, Non-deterministic Polynomial-time hard Jan 19 17:17:22 or, atleast thats what wikipedia says... Jan 19 17:18:04 thanks for your help Jan 19 17:18:15 UltraMagnus: and sadly you are wrong here, but feel free to stay Jan 19 17:25:15 hmm, it seems java programs cant run on WM5... odd... Jan 19 17:42:02 where's the best place to ask about ASoC? Jan 19 17:42:07 here Jan 19 17:42:26 mreimer: RP, lrg and XorA are there to help Jan 19 17:42:37 zecke: so ask here? Jan 19 17:42:49 mreimer: I think RP is off to the pub Jan 19 17:42:50 yes Jan 19 17:43:05 hey koen Jan 19 17:43:09 although lrg and XorA usually work on it during UK work hours Jan 19 17:43:13 hey mreimer Jan 19 17:56:15 hi, "bitbake -k meta-opie" is failing at "sysinfo", any ideas how to make it continue? Jan 19 17:56:29 insert coins? Jan 19 17:56:36 this used to work with arcade games Jan 19 17:56:53 same occurs with --continue Jan 19 17:57:19 chazco: if you can't insert a coin, the next best thing is to fix the problem? Jan 19 17:57:35 i have no idea how Jan 19 17:58:34 then find someone who can help you, or don't use Opie Jan 19 17:58:50 so theres no way to skip it? Jan 19 17:59:25 fixing the problem is one way Jan 19 17:59:32 lrg, XorA: is ASoC working on s3c24xx-based devices? Jan 19 17:59:33 editing the meta-opie file is another one... Jan 19 17:59:48 i thought -k was supposed to do it... Jan 19 18:00:12 it is doing that using best effort Jan 19 18:00:27 if one part of meta-opie fails it will skip whole meta-opie Jan 19 18:00:37 pity Jan 19 18:00:48 how do i clean out a package? Jan 19 18:00:57 what do you mean by that? Jan 19 18:01:12 remove the current source etc Jan 19 18:01:18 chazco: see. This is a developer lounge. You have a build failure, try to figure what is failing Jan 19 18:01:21 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * ra11838ac... 10/ (1 packages/libg15/libg15_1.2.1.bb): libg15: Let OE do it's magic. Jan 19 18:01:27 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * rcd8f22a2... 10/ (1 packages/libg15render/libg15render_1.2.bb): libg15render: Let OE do it's magic. Jan 19 18:01:28 chazco: why do you want to remove the source? Jan 19 18:01:35 so i can try an up-to-date copy Jan 19 18:01:40 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * rdaf8c9ee... 10/ (1 packages/lcdproc/lcdproc_0.5.1.bb): lcdproc: Add lcdvc. Jan 19 18:02:00 bitbake sysinfo -cclean? Jan 19 18:02:41 mreimer: I know XorA was working on s3c24xx devices on wolfson Jan 19 18:02:57 <[cc]smart> g15 now works somewhat. with some issues left... Question: in my laptop the same software works. There g15daemon creates a single process. On the slug, it creates 5 processes. Is there some difference that could make this explainable... like thread or such ? Jan 19 18:03:22 [cc]smart: what is g15? Jan 19 18:03:37 koen: I need to get a UDA1341 on S3C2410 working, and I'd rather not use the crufty OSS driver I was given Jan 19 18:03:38 zecke: http://www.qoheleth.uklinux.net/blog/?p=139 Jan 19 18:03:47 <[cc]smart> point is, on the surface g15daemon seems to work correctly. but LCDd doesn't and i'm searching why... Jan 19 18:04:17 <[cc]smart> g15 is the Logitech G15 keyboard. It's got builtin LCD and i'm trying to make this usable as a console to the slug. Jan 19 18:05:08 <[cc]smart> the g15daemon is to control the lcd and offer access to it via client/server access. Jan 19 18:05:25 koen: uh, so, conf/distro/* and conf/machine/* is now deprecated in favor of pacakges/tasks/* ? Jan 19 18:05:34 "My tests shown that on my Pentium M laptop it is more than 10x faster than the clib sqrt, and on FPU-less arm (and this is not a typo) more than 800 times faster!" Jan 19 18:05:37 <[cc]smart> This daemon does access the display and operates it correctly. The other end i'm wondering about Jan 19 18:05:39 T0mW: ? Jan 19 18:06:14 koen: so clutter for ARM is coming? Jan 19 18:06:19 koen: I just got the latest OE database and tried to build my project and it complained about the task Jan 19 18:06:20 zecke: I guess so Jan 19 18:06:22 I want OpenVG hw accelerated clutter Jan 19 18:06:59 koen: looking at the packages/tasks files, they seem to be quite different from a few months ago Jan 19 18:07:11 T0mW: they are Jan 19 18:07:18 koen: also, the conf/distro and conf/machine files differ Jan 19 18:07:31 T0mW: we're trying to lart people into providing proper seperation between machine, distro and tasks Jan 19 18:07:34 koen: so, is the conf stuff to become deprecated? Jan 19 18:08:00 no Jan 19 18:08:05 does anyone know where the find the latest ASoC patches? It looks like RP isn't hosting the newest ones Jan 19 18:08:26 koen: or, is a new structuring, finer grained info in each of the three instead of just putting things where we pleased Jan 19 18:08:28 The do_stage() of esound is failing while building gpe-image. It seems that the line 'oe_soinstall .libs/libesd.so.${SOV} ${STAGING_LIBDIR}' is the guilty, making a recursive link of libesd.so.0.2.28 to itself Jan 19 18:09:07 koen, ok, so I will study the changes you guys made and try to change my project files to meet them then. Jan 19 18:10:01 T0mW: the best way is to get your project files into OE, so you don't have to worry about such changes Jan 19 18:11:00 koen: this is what I ran into: Jan 19 18:11:03 NOTE: no buildable providers for task-bootzipit Jan 19 18:11:03 ERROR: dependency task-bootzipit (for bootzipit-image) not satisfied Jan 19 18:11:03 NOTE: no buildable providers for bootzipit-image Jan 19 18:11:03 C Jan 19 18:11:52 It just looks like it was enforcing the packages/tasks/ dir and not reading my bbfiles dir where I have that task Jan 19 18:12:52 Hmm, it seems that my locale is the guilty, as oe_soinstall greps "Library soname:" from the arm-linux-readelf output Jan 19 18:13:26 Where I'm getting "Nombre-so de la biblioteca:" instead Jan 19 18:14:16 sounds like oe_soinstall needs to be fixed to be more versatile Jan 19 18:14:21 * kergoth yawns Jan 19 18:14:33 Well, I can just set LC_ALL=C Jan 19 18:14:54 But I had no idea that the locale could be the reason Jan 19 18:15:49 Or perhaps making a grep of 'SONAME' in the Type column of arm-linux-readelf output, That seems to be invariable with the language Jan 19 18:21:44 <[cc]smart> does openslug support posix threads ? Jan 19 18:22:08 it should Jan 19 18:23:17 <[cc]smart> i thought there was a kernel option on threads.. but i can't find it. Jan 19 18:24:51 [cc]smart: linuxthreads should be available Jan 19 18:25:57 <[cc]smart> i have a feeling the posix threads requirement on g15daemon could be the reason that i see 5 g15daemon processes in ps. and that there are issues connecting it Jan 19 18:26:20 are these processes or threads? ;) Jan 19 18:27:09 <[cc]smart> do threads get own pid ? Jan 19 18:27:30 I think so, for linux implementations before ntpl Jan 19 18:27:56 * VoodooZ can't wait to have NPTL on his slug Jan 19 18:29:13 yep, the slug still uses linuxthreads. Jan 19 18:30:00 with NPTL I think you would have one pid for the process instead of each threads. Jan 19 18:31:39 <[cc]smart> do you think that linuxthreads could cause issues in this case ? Jan 19 18:38:19 I wonder if bitbake could be used to build a gpe rootfs for x86, in order to setup a gpe devel environment Jan 19 18:39:43 [cc]smart: what distro do you use? Jan 19 18:40:15 [cc]smart: angstrom support NPTL Jan 19 18:40:18 <[cc]smart> DISTRO="openslug" or do you mean host ? Jan 19 18:40:32 <[cc]smart> angstrom would not run on the slug though i guess Jan 19 18:40:40 <[cc]smart> or well Jan 19 18:40:43 well, I use openslug 3.10 on my robot and it works fine with 5 threads. Jan 19 18:40:47 <[cc]smart> maybe bootstrap image ? Jan 19 18:41:10 not sure. Jan 19 18:41:12 [cc]smart: angstrom is running on my loft Jan 19 18:41:33 koen: but it's LE only right? Jan 19 18:42:01 yes Jan 19 18:42:33 what does angstrom use in terms of NPE drivers though? Jan 19 18:43:00 <[cc]smart> will have to try angstrom on slug Jan 19 18:43:04 <[cc]smart> but not today :) Jan 19 18:44:02 VoodooZ: the ones in OE Jan 19 18:44:03 Yes, I'd love to have glibc 2.5 and NPTL on my bot. Jan 19 18:44:29 <[cc]smart> and a g15 as console :) Jan 19 18:45:13 koen: What bootloader do you have on the loft? Apex? Jan 19 18:45:59 redboot Jan 19 18:52:30 I would try stuff but I'm afraid to mess up my working setup for my robot. I need a second board to play with. :) Jan 19 18:53:24 Not really worth it as my next project will use a nano-itx or stripped portable. I guess I could use angstrom on that too. Jan 19 18:56:16 anyone messed with sizeof long versus int??? Jan 19 18:57:10 http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/file/site/ Jan 19 18:58:48 how come I can't get there on my own? Jan 19 18:58:50 argh Jan 19 18:59:45 how can I see diffs from here? Jan 19 18:59:52 Great, no more alignment traps with this gpe-image Jan 19 19:01:00 Crofton: :} Jan 19 19:01:06 CosmicPenguin: go to viewmtn Jan 19 19:01:11 (by hand) Jan 19 19:01:42 zecke: mtn 0.32 has automate content_diff iirc Jan 19 19:02:09 koen: I'm uncertain if I want to index/save the diff's Jan 19 19:02:22 koen: I still think I should link to viewmtn or such Jan 19 19:02:23 zecke: you don't Jan 19 19:02:36 zecke: you do want to link to viewmtn in the mean time Jan 19 19:02:54 zecke: but calling mtn automate content_diff would probably be faster Jan 19 19:03:06 *time* :} Jan 19 19:03:13 viewmtn does that, but in a more convoluted way Jan 19 19:04:22 how does automate content_diff work? Jan 19 19:04:42 mtn automate content_diff --help Jan 19 19:05:23 not very helpful Jan 19 19:05:38 oh sorry then Jan 19 19:06:28 crap Jan 19 19:07:33 mtn automate content_diff [--revision=id1 [--revision=id2]] [files ...] Jan 19 19:07:37 It seems that screen rotation is no longer detected, or is it disabled by default now ? Jan 19 19:07:44 from http://venge.net/monotone/monotone.html Jan 19 19:08:06 sirfred: we've seen some problems with zaurusd in recent images Jan 19 19:08:21 starting to figure it out .... Jan 19 19:08:34 koen: OK, thanks for the info Jan 19 19:08:48 sirfred: there's also a bug in xrandr that refuses to rotate if you adjusted the clock Jan 19 19:09:07 Strange Jan 19 19:09:24 koen: Perhaps that's the reason. I'm going to kill X and see Jan 19 19:10:07 koen: It works now. Jan 19 19:10:10 koen: Thanks Jan 19 19:10:23 sirfred: it took us a while to figure that out Jan 19 19:10:52 One question about gpe: Having the panel at the right side with the screen rotated and not at the bottom, is a design decission ? Jan 19 19:11:35 sirfred: it's a design decision (which I don't agree with) Jan 19 19:11:42 Neither do I Jan 19 19:11:55 sirfred: if the panel shrinks, you loose applets that don't fit in the new position Jan 19 19:12:14 koen: Perhaps having some way to scroll them... Jan 19 19:12:27 sirfred: vi ~/.matchbox/session and add --no-flip of --noflip to the panel args Jan 19 19:12:56 koen@h2200:~$ cat .matchbox/session | grep flip Jan 19 19:12:56 matchbox-panel --no-flip --orientation south & Jan 19 19:13:03 that's what I have on all my machines Jan 19 19:13:19 I don't have that file... Jan 19 19:13:41 Only a mbdock.session into that directory Jan 19 19:13:43 sirfred: cp /etc/matchbox/session .matchbox/ Jan 19 19:13:56 Shouldn't that be made automatically ? Jan 19 19:14:01 or edit the one in etc to make it global for all users :) Jan 19 19:14:08 koen: OK Jan 19 19:14:40 the last time I proposed such change I got some *cough* unfriendly responses Jan 19 19:14:58 jeje Jan 19 19:15:08 * Crofton shoots self in the foot Jan 19 19:15:19 * Crofton hates the omniorb autofoo Jan 19 19:17:02 I figured my problem out before I figured out automate content_diff :( Jan 19 19:18:49 I dont't remember who suggested kscope to me but thank you very much! It's perfect! Jan 19 19:22:59 Humm, gpe-mini-browser produces a pair of alignment traps Jan 19 19:26:18 But it's rendering pages that previous versions refused Jan 19 19:27:03 Not true, www.google.pl or www.elpais.es failed silently Jan 19 19:27:54 sirfred: sadly you must have every locale installed you want to browse Jan 19 19:28:10 maps.google.com apparently works Jan 19 19:28:10 so locale-base-es and the appropriate charmap Jan 19 19:28:38 * zecke hugs Qt for its unicodetables :} Jan 19 19:28:42 Only apparently Jan 19 19:28:45 sirfred: pester philippe to do a new minibrowser release :) Jan 19 19:29:01 Well, it looks promising Jan 19 19:29:17 What render engine is based in ? Jan 19 19:29:17 philippe: any plans to 'upgrade' to the real webkit? Jan 19 19:29:22 sirfred: WebKit :) Jan 19 19:29:57 Nokia uses WebKit, Apple uses WebKit on their iPhone, everyone else should use it as well Jan 19 19:30:14 Same as safari, the apple modified KHTML ? Jan 19 19:30:18 * koen cheers for WebKit Jan 19 19:30:25 sirfred: Safari is a GUI Jan 19 19:30:49 sirfred: WebKit is Apple's HTML/SVG rendering engine and JavaScript implementation and yes it was based on KHTML Jan 19 19:31:03 zecke: That's what I wanted to mean Jan 19 19:31:13 zecke: If it was using the same rendering engine than safari Jan 19 19:31:29 sirfred: hehe, I will bite on my tounge :) Jan 19 19:31:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2d0c6e09... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): gpe-session-scripts: add custom matchbox session for angstrom that keeps the panel always at the bottom Jan 19 19:31:42 zecke: I'm afraid I'm inventing English as I write. :-( Jan 19 19:31:58 sirfred: The stuff used in OSX Tiger is pretty close to KHTML (e.g. uses the KWQ Qt wrapper) Jan 19 19:32:47 sirfred: the WebKit for iPhone or on www.webkit.org evolved a lot. Separated the Layouting and parsing from the GUI that blits the stuff, completely new dom (KDOM2, from the KDE project though) Jan 19 19:33:11 Interesting Jan 19 19:33:41 zecke: as soon as I somebody has a decent C interface to it I will :-) Jan 19 19:33:44 I hear the children scream that they want WebKit and not Gecko, but I do not find the time to serve them :) Jan 19 19:36:11 one webkit per child Jan 19 19:36:23 hehe Jan 19 19:36:42 Configuring locale-base-es-es fails with "memory exhausted" Jan 19 19:37:18 And a party in my dmesg, stacks, lots of messages and those kind of things Jan 19 19:38:39 hmmm Jan 19 19:38:56 <[cc]smart> overheated Jan 19 19:38:58 <[cc]smart> :) Jan 19 19:48:19 sirfred: yah, localegen takes a lot of memory. you need to either get a better computer, use pregenerated binary locales, or do without i18n. Jan 19 19:49:13 pb_: Well, it's running on my zaurus Jan 19 19:50:16 well, indeed. Jan 19 19:50:20 What are the pregenerated locale package counterpart, if it exists? Jan 19 19:51:36 good question; I don't recall exactly. probably glibc-localedata-es-es or some such. Jan 19 19:51:53 I guess that inspecting glibc-package.bbclass would reveal the truth. Jan 19 19:52:15 pb_: I installed glibc-localedata-es-es as a dependency Jan 19 19:52:26 ah. presumably not that, then. Jan 19 19:52:41 glibc-charmap-es + glibc-binary-localedata-es-es Jan 19 19:53:00 koen: Thanks Jan 19 19:53:41 glibc-binary-localedata-es-es is only available if you have enabled/not disabled ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION Jan 19 19:54:39 It seems I have it disabled Jan 19 19:56:39 koen: What package do I need to compile after enabling, glibc ? Jan 19 20:01:03 glibc Jan 19 20:01:12 and it takes ~2 hours on my opteron Jan 19 20:02:16 I'm on a Pentium Mobile 1.8 Ghz Jan 19 20:05:53 does qemu-native still require GCC 3 to compile, or am I seeing AMD64 issues? Jan 19 20:10:11 cbrake: apt-get install gcc-3.4 Jan 19 20:11:20 koen: do you build qemu external to OE then, or do you just use 3.4 for all the host stuff? Jan 19 20:11:53 I use gcc 4.1.x for all host stuff Jan 19 20:12:07 but qemu-native will pick up /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 Jan 19 20:12:17 koen: ahh, ok Jan 19 20:28:48 koen: I'm getting the following message when building angstrom oabi: NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-libc-for-gcc Jan 19 20:29:33 koen: should this be defined in one of the distro files, or is local conf a better place? Jan 19 20:30:31 * koen scratches head Jan 19 20:33:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5f8010e5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1-oabi.conf): angstrom oabi: define PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-libc-for-gcc Jan 19 20:33:33 koen: thanks! Jan 19 20:35:36 :) Jan 19 20:36:42 morning Jan 19 20:37:00 hey likewise Jan 19 20:37:25 likewise: any preferred day for dinner/beer/whatever? Jan 19 20:38:50 koen: not particularly. I go to the movies "sneak preview" on tuesdays with some guys'n'gals but you might want to join in. Jan 19 20:39:18 sounds like a plan Jan 19 20:40:43 ok, good. sneak runs from 21:30 till 23:30, so I hope you're not exhausted from work already on tuesday Jan 19 20:40:45 * koen wonders where the b&b/hotel will be Jan 19 20:40:54 heh, exhausted Jan 19 20:41:26 I'll be working with ambtenaren Jan 19 20:45:04 apparently there are some n800 kernel patches going to the omap-linux list Jan 19 20:46:13 sirfred: hows Ximageon? Jan 19 20:50:04 ~botmail for lardman: I just got mail that people are working on the gcc segfault when building gfortran, so fingeres crossed for R :) Jan 19 20:50:26 koen: did you ever get a hold of "The Fires of Heaven" ? Jan 19 20:50:36 hvontres|poodle: I ordered it on tuesday Jan 19 20:50:55 I hope they'll get it tomorrow so I can take it with me next week Jan 19 20:51:43 koen: heh... my wife just started over... apperently the series makes even more sense the second time around :) Jan 19 20:51:54 * hvontres|poodle needs to start reading on the train more Jan 19 20:52:08 whats "The Fires of HEaven" Jan 19 20:52:34 XorA: http://www.tor.com/jordan/firesofheaven.html Jan 19 20:53:02 Oh I just threw that whole series away Jan 19 20:53:18 someone should have said Jan 19 20:59:49 koen: much better: NOTE: package glibc-intermediate-2.5: started Jan 19 21:17:15 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5abd148d... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): clutter: add the o-hand eyecandy thingy from http://www.clutter-project.org/ Jan 19 21:20:42 03vogl 07org.oe.dev * rd1a5870c... 10/ (1 packages/vincent packages/vincent/vincent_svn.bb): vincent: add opengl/es implementation, needs some finetuning, closes #1596 Jan 19 21:23:09 koen: working with ambtenaren can be very exhausting :-) Jan 19 21:24:59 koen: already know something about where you are staying? Jan 19 21:25:15 nope Jan 19 21:25:20 I guess I'll hear that on sunday Jan 19 21:25:28 I do know I'll be working here: http://www.politie.nl/Brabant-Zuid-Oost/Afdelingen/Eindhoven_Strijp/ Jan 19 21:32:18 koen: Ah yes, they might need bullet stopping protection :-) Jan 19 21:32:35 RP: ping Jan 19 21:32:51 I think that part of ehv is the old "arbeiderswijk" of Philips. Jan 19 21:33:26 likewise: http://www.flickr.com/photos/86669029@N00/352893130/in/set-72157594471382701/ Jan 19 21:36:39 i read there is a oe stand @fosdem? Jan 19 21:36:47 correct Jan 19 21:37:46 something to "see" there? Jan 19 21:38:14 probable some toys and posters Jan 19 21:38:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4389668d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pulse-audio: update to 0.9.5 Jan 19 21:38:40 koen: toys sounds good Jan 19 21:40:40 koen: ok, an in house shooting range for testing? Jan 19 21:41:02 likewise: yes :) Jan 19 21:47:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9e6025cf... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.5.bb): pulse-audio: add CONFFILES Jan 19 21:54:59 Let's say I'm using bbfile collections to override the standard foo_1.0.bb package with my foo_1.0.bb file by prefering my directory. If the mainline foo package gets bumped a rev to foo_1.1.bb, will that newer version now get used? Jan 19 21:55:38 I suspect your version will be seen Jan 19 21:55:45 you can check with 'bitbake -s' Jan 19 21:56:04 but I could ensure it by using PREFERRED_VERSION_foo = "1.0"? Jan 19 21:56:50 that should work Jan 19 21:56:57 sweeeeeet Jan 19 21:56:58 thanks Jan 19 22:00:58 I just noticed the bitbake -g option. What viewer can I use to look at the output? Jan 19 22:02:04 ah, dotty - sorry Jan 19 22:15:13 ah, bitbake -g is broken :( Jan 19 22:20:38 is there any particular reason why /build/conf is the recommended way to setup directories? Jan 19 22:22:31 mreimer: pong Jan 19 22:23:57 RP: I'm saving about 18 mA/h in suspend on hx4700 by zeroing mmLCDD_CNTL1 and mmLCDD_CNTL2 in w100_suspend(). They get reconfigured on resume, and it works for me, so it seems to be a safe change. Do you approve? If so, I'll send you a patch. Jan 19 22:24:12 mreimer: http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/ is probably what you want Jan 19 22:24:24 mreimer: Sounds interesting. What do those registers do? Jan 19 22:24:27 RP: thanks for the ASoC link Jan 19 22:24:50 RP: looking... Jan 19 22:28:21 RP: it's not obvious to me. the old w100fb.h has names for the bits like lcdd_pd, lcdd_srp, lcdd_srn, lcdd_sp, lcdd_sn, lcdd_align, but only magic numbers are used in w100fb.c Jan 19 22:29:35 mreimer: ok, what I'd like to do is test whether this makes any difference on the Zaurus. If so, its a general thing and we can apply in general, if not it should be hx4700 specific Jan 19 22:30:38 RP: ok Jan 19 22:36:57 RP: patch sent Jan 19 22:37:48 mreimer: ok, thanks Jan 19 22:57:35 koen|away: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9048137234.html Jan 19 23:06:47 RP: nice coverage! Jan 19 23:11:24 RP: does the link to the root filesystem downloads work for you? not for me. Jan 19 23:11:43 likewise: I didn't check Jan 19 23:12:46 likewise: a rootfs from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ is more up to date :) Jan 19 23:15:12 koen: Would it be easy to see what packages we miss out on? ("Comprised of 9,877 packages and growing"). We're halfway probably. For example, I didn't know about Pulse Audio until 10 minutes ago :-) Jan 19 23:15:54 OE had ~1.8k unique recipes 6 months ago Jan 19 23:16:01 which generate >20k ipkgs Jan 19 23:17:18 koen: Hmm, didn't know that factor was 10? Where from? (-dev, -dbg, -doc, ...) Jan 19 23:17:55 I counted before and poky generates 3,700 just from rootfs generation Jan 19 23:17:59 subpackages like -dev -dbg, locales Jan 19 23:18:10 locales are the real killer Jan 19 23:18:23 last time I counted glibc generate 217 locales Jan 19 23:18:59 I'm just thinking that maybe we should have business cards for the OE people going to fosdem, just to spread attention. Jan 19 23:20:26 "OE, building debian since 2006" ;) Jan 19 23:23:13 03pb 07org.oe.dev * r89af34b3... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-epia: update to 2.6.19.2 Jan 19 23:24:34 03pb 07org.oe.dev * r2094880c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): initscripts: add missing variable assignment in checkroot.sh Jan 19 23:25:03 pb: are you running epia builds? using angstrom? Jan 19 23:25:43 hrw|gone: could you please take a look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1806? Thanks. Jan 19 23:27:50 likewise: epia, yes; angstrom, no Jan 19 23:28:36 * pb_ going to sleep now Jan 19 23:28:37 night all Jan 19 23:28:44 pb_: any available distro that works out of the box? gn! Jan 19 23:29:08 RP: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/arm-eabi-fame :) Jan 19 23:31:08 It seems like the plan lennert and I made worked Jan 19 23:31:42 get EABI working, build debian, tell the world, laugh at aleph1 Jan 19 23:35:04 koen: ever been to the IJssculpturen, or something similar? Jan 19 23:35:27 likewise: not that I can remember Jan 19 23:35:54 can we start calling debian "OE derived" now? Jan 19 23:36:33 koen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/piair/338325275/in/photostream/ Jan 19 23:36:56 koen: at least debian arm I guess... Jan 19 23:36:56 nice Jan 19 23:37:13 * koen packs camera bag for next week Jan 19 23:37:45 koen: up to 4 feb in ehv, it's nice to see once. pack your muts as well (well, it's not windy inside the tent... but it helps) Jan 19 23:39:38 koen: I expect this lady's boobies to be melted due to people touching them: http://www.flickr.com/photos/piair/338328815/in/photostream/ Jan 19 23:44:57 heh Jan 19 23:48:08 koen: Cool, a few of us get a mention :) Jan 20 00:13:56 good nite all Jan 20 02:03:33 RP: I've found some problems with either zaurusd or the kernel Jan 20 02:05:16 RP: 1) the headphone callback is called when the hinge is pressed Jan 20 02:05:45 RP: 2) inserting my CE-RH2 remote does not cause the headphone callback to be called (while inserting my headphones does) Jan 20 02:47:20 RP: 2a) the plug isn't detected at all as when 1) happens my headphones get turned off :-/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 20 02:59:57 2007