**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 06 02:59:57 2007 Feb 06 04:04:07 If anyone is around to hear, I've got a feature request for bitbake. I'm sure a few of you are gentoo users and you know what "parallel-fetch" is, we should be downloading sources in advance of needing them (ie while compiling is going on) Feb 06 07:08:02 morning Feb 06 07:08:26 Zero_Chaos: use bitbake trunk instead of 1.6.x - you will get this feature and even more Feb 06 07:11:00 morning all Feb 06 07:25:38 hi Ifaistos Feb 06 07:48:23 hi koen Feb 06 07:48:37 good morning all Feb 06 07:59:02 Eblis: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/mono/ <- armv5te cpu, EABI binary format Feb 06 08:14:53 hi Feb 06 08:14:54 thanks Feb 06 08:15:48 is that by any chance compatible with ep93xx? :D Feb 06 08:15:59 i forgot to mention that yesterday :( Feb 06 08:16:17 that depends Feb 06 08:17:08 the description shouldn't use armv5te instructions, but it is using the vfp float format Feb 06 08:17:27 so it's compatible with DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1/MACHINE=ep93xx Feb 06 08:17:46 distro=generic ? (openmoko :D) Feb 06 08:17:51 will that work too ? Feb 06 08:17:54 nope Feb 06 08:18:04 although openmoko will switch to EABI later I heard Feb 06 08:21:52 it would take another day to build that for distro=generic, right ? :( Feb 06 08:30:13 I don't have machines that run DISTRO=generic Feb 06 08:30:47 aha Feb 06 08:30:57 thanks anyway, i'll use this version until i get another one Feb 06 08:31:04 i managed to port portable .Net though :) Feb 06 08:31:13 although the process is not fully automatic yet Feb 06 08:31:14 ~lart psplash.. Feb 06 08:31:15 * ibot whips out his power stapler and staples psplash..'s foot to the floor Feb 06 08:31:33 koen: psplash should be avoid in bootstrap images probably Feb 06 08:31:51 hrw: makes sense Feb 06 08:36:14 my progear hangs when psplash is done Feb 06 08:37:41 'hangs'? Feb 06 08:38:17 it start, make progress and 'one bar to end' == machine without any local access Feb 06 08:38:46 switch to another console? Feb 06 08:39:07 impossible Feb 06 08:40:53 and this shit start on rcS level so I cannot even boot to single :( Feb 06 08:41:44 and lack good 'stop' suport Feb 06 08:41:51 morning Feb 06 08:42:36 hey XorA Feb 06 08:43:20 wazzup? Feb 06 08:54:37 morning Feb 06 08:55:58 can someone look at http://rafb.net/p/rVXNBH70.html and tell me why pth doesn't build ? Feb 06 08:56:39 #error "Unsupported Linux (g)libc version and/or platform" Feb 06 08:57:17 I have to update my glibc ? Feb 06 08:57:55 no, you have to look at the file where that #error was thrown, find out what #if made it be thrown and why your system causes that condition Feb 06 08:58:14 I have globc 2.4 on my system Feb 06 08:58:18 <_law_> is someone here who has build an bootstrape/gpe/opie image for haret (ppc bootloader)? Feb 06 08:58:37 _law_: haret is util not machine Feb 06 08:58:48 <_law_> hrw, i know Feb 06 08:59:00 _law_: most of people which use haret to boot use root-on-sd cards Feb 06 09:00:01 <_law_> hrw, me too now i wanna build a anstrom-image for my axim but i want start :-( Feb 06 09:00:52 _law_: created machine config? built image in tarball format and unpack it to card Feb 06 09:01:17 _law_: then kernel with root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 (first SD partition) and haret it Feb 06 09:01:39 <_law_> i have already setup machine.conf, motified anstrom.conf, an added handhelds kernel hh10 Feb 06 09:02:21 <_law_> hrw, should be a ext2 image or? Feb 06 09:02:58 _law_: I would use IMAGE_FSTYPES += "tar.gz" and unpack it to card Feb 06 09:03:05 _law_: card in ext2 Feb 06 09:03:26 <_law_> hrw, ok Feb 06 09:03:34 other option is generate and ext2 image and use ext2resize to make it bigger Feb 06 09:06:39 <_law_> XorA, bigger why? Feb 06 09:07:24 _law_: well generated image is 32M average size of card these days is probably 512M Feb 06 09:07:44 <_law_> XorA, a ok Feb 06 09:08:06 koen|away: OUCH control engineering :-) Feb 06 09:08:42 <_law_> but also changing zImage doesnt work... :-( Feb 06 09:08:55 <_law_> http://jn.graux.free.fr/x51v-linux/ <-- this one boots fine... Feb 06 09:31:51 ping koen Feb 06 09:41:59 morning all Feb 06 09:42:31 hey ade|desk Feb 06 09:43:01 hi ade|desk leoncamel gremlin[it] koen Feb 06 09:43:21 hrw, hey. :) Feb 06 09:43:23 koen: can you build xserver-xorg for x86 angstrom? Feb 06 09:43:59 not at the moment, as I have no libx11_bb Feb 06 09:44:03 that reminds me... Feb 06 09:45:11 ok Feb 06 09:45:32 it does build against diet-x11 if you enable xkb Feb 06 09:45:52 koen: I do not need diet-x11 on this x86 machine ;D Feb 06 09:49:11 you need small-x11 Feb 06 09:50:41 * koen stabs c++ Feb 06 09:50:44 * koen stabs inkscape Feb 06 09:51:20 hi hrw, koen ... Feb 06 09:51:27 ~fish c++ Feb 06 09:51:32 * ibot slaps c++ around with a large trout Feb 06 10:33:32 Package xserver-xorg wants to install file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy But that file is already provided by package xserver-kdrive Feb 06 10:33:36 ;( Feb 06 10:33:58 RREPLACES = "xserver-kdrive" ? Feb 06 10:34:07 probably Feb 06 10:36:11 or xserver-security Feb 06 10:45:41 shit.. I compiled kernel without serials.. Feb 06 10:45:53 use a crack Feb 06 10:46:01 or keygen Feb 06 10:46:07 lol Feb 06 10:57:27 wow Feb 06 10:57:28 http://www.haicom.com.tw/hi_505SD.shtml Feb 06 10:57:29 one,two steps and I will have xrg working on progear Feb 06 11:01:23 koen: nice Feb 06 11:08:32 someone remember which OE recipe provide x11 fonts/misc? Feb 06 11:09:12 found Feb 06 11:14:43 libfont-native is fscked Feb 06 11:15:37 most of the x stuff was done for geode, so rarely used stuff doesn't crosscompile (yet) Feb 06 11:25:41 freetype 2.2.1 breaks libxfont Feb 06 11:26:14 koen: Re the GPS module.. that's pretty cool.. I'd just worry about battery consumption Feb 06 11:28:46 hrw: didn't we upgrade libxfont to fix that? Feb 06 11:30:03 koen: libxfont yes. libxfont-native no Feb 06 11:31:16 morning Feb 06 11:38:06 ERROR: Parsing error data_fn /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/yeaphone/yeaphone_0.1.bb and fn /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/quilt/quilt-native_0.45.bb don't match Feb 06 11:38:13 wtf? Feb 06 11:40:47 re Feb 06 11:42:48 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r465f7e87... 10/ (1 conf/machine/progear.conf): progear: prefer full X.org over kdrive Feb 06 11:44:36 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r02f69e2f... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Feb 06 11:44:36 claws-mail_2.7.2.bb : new version of claws Feb 06 11:44:36 claws-plugin-*.bb : new versions of plugins for claws mail. Feb 06 11:53:45 I'm working on getting php_5.2.0 compiling in OE. It compiles fine as long as I recompile libxml2 with "--with-c14n" option. The current libxml2.bb has "without-c14n" set does anyone know why and is there any issues with me changing it when I submit my PHP_5.2.0 patch? Feb 06 11:58:54 Gerrath: the main concern would be size increase Feb 06 12:01:54 * koen heads back to uni Feb 06 12:03:29 XorA, ok, I will do a before and after recording on size. Feb 06 12:05:04 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r76862bf1... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Feb 06 12:05:04 linux: upgrade to 2.6.20, update Progear support Feb 06 12:05:04 - progear backlight updated to r6 Feb 06 12:05:04 - enabled serial ports to get touchscreen working Feb 06 12:06:02 hrw: that progear got wireless? Feb 06 12:07:57 it has pcmcia slot with orinoco wifi Feb 06 12:08:16 XorA, libxml2 is 462,978 bytes with out c14n and 467,932 bytes with it so I think it is a non issue. Feb 06 12:09:04 4k, now thats expensive :-) Feb 06 12:09:04 thats more memory than the zx81 Feb 06 12:09:39 XorA, how times have changed :-) Feb 06 12:09:55 X started on progear! Feb 06 12:10:43 Gerrath: http://www.hrw.one.pl/2007/02/05/one-gigabyte-of-memory-is-not-enough/ Feb 06 12:16:53 Feb 6 13:50:57 colinux daemon.info gpe-dm: gpe-dm: session pid 26892 exited with status 1 Feb 06 12:17:04 someone remember what is it? Feb 06 13:13:26 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rece02eb1... 10/ (1 packages/sylpheed/claws-mail_2.7.2.bb): claws-mail_2.7.2.bb : this version needs openssl to do tls Feb 06 13:18:02 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r64b4c8fe... 10/ (13 files in 2 dirs): packages/sylpheed/*.bb : clean out old stuff Feb 06 13:22:21 hmm crap.. updated to new gcc, new glibc and still get the "cannot set up thread-local torage: unknown error" when I try to boot the rootfs Feb 06 13:22:31 does this error sound familiar to anyone? Feb 06 13:27:57 hrw: <3 Feb 06 13:29:33 Zero_Chaos: 2 Feb 06 13:29:38 did I pass? Feb 06 13:29:58 hrw: no, you told me bitbake trunk has my feature request, so I heart you :-) Feb 06 13:32:49 ah Feb 06 13:39:19 hrw: do you know if the "remove work" option for bitbake is safe these days? or did that idea pass? Feb 06 13:40:51 rm_work class? Feb 06 13:41:07 koen : Do you have an Anstrom image for Efika ? Feb 06 13:44:59 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra4aac9c8... 10/ (21 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp: added 2.6.20 (from poky) Feb 06 13:49:03 hi mickeyl koen Feb 06 13:49:23 re Feb 06 13:49:25 hey hrw & mickeyl Feb 06 13:49:55 hrw: yeah that one. rm_work... is it safe or still a bit buggy? Feb 06 13:49:59 * koen discovers a test, a deadline and a big lab assigment at the time he's doing an OE talk at bossaconference Feb 06 13:50:00 hrw: done any 2.6.20 testing? Feb 06 13:50:10 cheers guys Feb 06 13:50:20 XorA: RP booted it on spitz Feb 06 13:50:32 koen: good luck with that Feb 06 13:50:48 Zero_Chaos: if you find bug related to it then tell me Feb 06 13:50:57 ade|desk: at the mention of 'embedded' I managed to evade the test and the deadline :) Feb 06 13:51:14 now I need to bribe some fellow students to cover me for the lab assignment Feb 06 13:51:16 hrw: ;-) I add what to my conf/local.conf? import rm_work ? Feb 06 13:51:18 nicely nicely Feb 06 13:52:02 hrw: ASoC is upto 13.3 but I dont think anything Z wise changed Feb 06 13:52:06 INHERIT += "rm_work" Feb 06 13:52:16 hrw: thanks again Feb 06 13:52:37 XorA: feel free to update asoc if it will work Feb 06 13:52:49 Downloading http://home.lan/feeds/progear/hicolor-icon-theme_0.9-r0_i686.ipk Feb 06 13:53:14 ipkg need some kind of feeds priority Feb 06 13:53:26 hrw: I have see if I brave upgrading my machine to 2.6.20 in total Feb 06 13:53:41 Linux home 2.6.20 #8 PREEMPT Mon Feb 5 15:36:25 CET 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux Feb 06 13:54:53 hey gerwinin Feb 06 14:00:52 XorA: I used ASoC 0.13 on the linux 2.6.20 kernel I generated. I've not tried booting it yet ;-) Feb 06 14:01:02 hi all! Feb 06 14:01:16 i have a proble Feb 06 14:01:21 RP: I booted 0.13rcX on 2.6.20rc4 and that worked Feb 06 14:01:40 XorA: I've used 2.6.20rc4 quite heavily Feb 06 14:01:51 In fact poky was released with that :) Feb 06 14:02:03 where is stock the image system when i use echo disk > /sys/powe/state ?? please Feb 06 14:05:39 s/stock/stored? Feb 06 14:07:27 no stock, store sorry Feb 06 14:09:16 there's a problem i'm having with the do_configure task. i have a package that has 2 lib folders inside it, libffi and libgc. i'm trying to build a package and just at the start of the do_configure task or just before it (unsure yet) it deleted the ./configure files inside the 2 subfolders (libffi and libgc). the main ./configure recursively calls those 2 ./configures in turn but it cannot find them since they're deleted. Feb 06 14:09:37 i can manually replace the deleted files while the main ./configure is still working and then the package compiles ok. Feb 06 14:09:37 RP: can you look at progear driver which I sent to lkml? Feb 06 14:10:02 why is it removing those files and how could i automate a step to recreate the ./configure file inside those 2 subfolders (libffi and libgc) ? Feb 06 14:15:39 hey koen ! Feb 06 14:16:21 hrw: I saw it, haven't had a chance to look in detail yet. I'm thinking about volunteering as the backlight maintainer which would allow me to add that to 'my' backlight git tree though :) Feb 06 14:16:45 ok Feb 06 14:17:04 RP: I did Cc: you because you are closest to be backlight maintainer Feb 06 14:17:23 koen: gnome-vfs has badness Feb 06 14:17:32 hrw: Yes, which is whyI was thinking I might as well make is official :) Feb 06 14:20:08 hrw: cross-compile badness? Feb 06 14:20:21 yep Feb 06 14:20:36 | CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include Feb 06 14:20:43 hngr Feb 06 14:20:49 * koen stabs cross-compile badness Feb 06 14:21:00 ~lart svn Feb 06 14:21:00 * ibot slaps a compatible dib on svn's head Feb 06 14:21:27 can anyone tell me how i could overcome that problem ? is there a task i could hook to copy the ./configure files back or some other thing i could do ? Feb 06 14:22:02 if I'm compiling a native package (inherit native) and I use ${STAGING_LIBDIR} will that resolve to the native libdir or the cross libdir in the staging area? Feb 06 14:22:25 hm.. 2.6.20.. I need to check does my bt dongle fuck mouse or not Feb 06 14:23:28 bitbake site is down, can I get a svn link to trunk? Feb 06 14:24:34 how to add extra usb device.... - use hid2hci Feb 06 14:25:11 http://pastebin.ca/342754 Feb 06 14:25:51 looks like 2.6.20 has logitech dongle fixed Feb 06 14:26:24 someone used 2 usb keyboards at once? Feb 06 14:26:30 not yet Feb 06 14:26:40 hrw: only a ps2 and usb at once Feb 06 14:26:41 but those oesf whiners keep whining about that Feb 06 14:26:59 which Is why I want xkb support in angstrom Feb 06 14:27:19 this is progear keyboard Feb 06 14:27:26 and this normal one. Feb 06 14:27:56 15:59 hrw@home:~$ ls /dev/input/ Feb 06 14:27:56 by-id by-path event0 event1 event2 event3 event4 event5 event6 event7 event8 event9 mice mouse0 mouse1 Feb 06 14:28:13 a bit too much inputs.. Feb 06 14:28:19 2 keyboards and one mouse Feb 06 14:29:23 ops.. ir remote and pc speaker too Feb 06 14:29:43 pc speaker is an input .. wow Feb 06 14:29:50 would be cool to bind a keyboard to a specific window :) so two people could type at the same time on the same screen :> Feb 06 14:29:55 have one day connect all that to spitz or tosa Feb 06 14:30:04 no idea if that could be done on X Feb 06 14:30:17 Jin^eLD: I already have idea for game with 2/4/8/9 mouses Feb 06 14:30:20 hi all Feb 06 14:30:25 hrw: cool! :) Feb 06 14:30:44 Anyone tried qemu 0.9.0 yet? Feb 06 14:30:52 0.9.0 released? Feb 06 14:31:25 - several x86 and x86_64 emulation fixes Feb 06 14:31:26 anyone ? please ? Feb 06 14:31:27 Today, and with kqemu now under gpl2 Feb 06 14:31:28 lets see Feb 06 14:31:54 at school we had a cool game called deathball for RISCOS, my mate wrote it that was three button controls in various places in the keyboard and the mouse for upto 4 players .. it rocked! Feb 06 14:33:28 when i install VLC-gpe, must i install the library gpe ? Feb 06 14:34:07 udev monitor roxx Feb 06 14:34:34 I took one plug off, got long screen of remove events, plugged in and another flood Feb 06 14:35:12 speaking of whiners: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/annoyed-by-ignorance Feb 06 14:38:12 koen: maybe you could help me ? :) Feb 06 14:39:52 Eblis: no idea on that Feb 06 14:40:22 koen, do you need help with your homework? Feb 06 14:40:31 SVN for bitbake trunk someone? please. The website is down Feb 06 14:40:37 I need practice remembering that stuff :) Feb 06 14:40:52 Crofton: the homework is easy, I'm doing it for the 3rd time now :) Feb 06 14:40:56 Crofton: I just need &*(@#( more time Feb 06 14:40:56 heh Feb 06 14:41:04 I know how you feel Feb 06 14:41:22 * koen does fourier transforms in his sleep Feb 06 14:41:47 most importantly, signal theory is fun! Feb 06 14:41:57 are there web pages for the classes? Feb 06 14:42:03 yeah Feb 06 14:42:07 :( Feb 06 14:42:16 fun, but a pain in the buttocks Feb 06 14:42:47 Crofton: yes, but it requires a login Feb 06 14:42:48 Crofton: today we covered frequency translation, mixers and figure of merit Feb 06 14:42:49 cool Feb 06 14:42:49 digital or analog? Feb 06 14:43:23 sorry for repeating myself but does anyone have any idea about my problem ? Feb 06 14:43:34 Crofton: analog, digital in ~3 weeks from now Feb 06 14:43:43 good morning Feb 06 14:43:47 digital rocks Feb 06 14:43:59 hey natezg Feb 06 14:44:12 XorA: I might be looking for an internship next year :) Feb 06 14:44:38 Eblis_, are you using the defautl do_configure? Feb 06 14:44:40 * XorA points at lrg Feb 06 14:44:46 maybe override it? Feb 06 14:44:52 Crofton: yes Feb 06 14:45:12 I noticed from evesdropping that a few of you are academics, If any of you have papers on embedded systems I would appreciate a tell and some links Feb 06 14:45:17 koen, what are you going to do when you grow up? Feb 06 14:45:38 conquer the world! Feb 06 14:45:48 ehm, get a job doing research probably Feb 06 14:45:50 like cobra? Feb 06 14:45:52 koen: what about this year ? Feb 06 14:45:53 natezg, unfortunately I read software radio papers, not embedded ones Feb 06 14:46:04 ah Feb 06 14:46:15 cobra or corba? Feb 06 14:46:19 lrg: to early, this year won't count for my masters Feb 06 14:46:43 koen, if you want to do software radio in the US, let me know Feb 06 14:46:50 * koen gets a machete and attacks the red tape Feb 06 14:46:51 at a uni Feb 06 14:46:52 that is Feb 06 14:46:52 Crofton: cool, I'll keep that in mind Feb 06 14:46:52 GI-Joe reference, sorry couldn't help it\ Feb 06 14:47:00 koen: ok, I'll speak with you at FOSDEM about this Feb 06 14:47:06 lrg: ok Feb 06 14:47:11 we are always interested in guys that can do signal procesing and software Feb 06 14:47:31 koen: oh, btw XorA wants to know if you can make good coffee ;) Feb 06 14:47:38 natezg: they renamed GI-Joe to actionman here Feb 06 14:47:48 lol, k Feb 06 14:48:10 natezg: I did like GI Joe vs Transformers though Feb 06 14:48:30 blasphemy Feb 06 14:48:56 heh they are crazy north of the border;) Feb 06 14:49:17 I'm having problems getting my uClibc tools to build Feb 06 14:49:35 lrg: my coffee keeps you awake :) Feb 06 14:49:37 keep getting:Unable to determine version for kernel headers Feb 06 14:49:43 look familiar to anyone Feb 06 14:49:45 ? Feb 06 14:49:53 koen: heh Feb 06 14:49:55 which uclibc ? Feb 06 14:50:04 ya know, I don't know Feb 06 14:50:25 just followed OE's lead on that one with the generic-uclibc distro Feb 06 14:50:33 uclibc svn sort of works with linux-libc-headers Feb 06 14:50:59 for uclibc-0.9.28 svn you need to have Feb 06 14:51:12 2.6.15.11 i think Feb 06 14:51:38 hmm should we add 0.9.28.1 or not Feb 06 14:51:53 does any body need 0.9.28.1 ? Feb 06 14:51:58 anyothers seem to fail at least for me Feb 06 14:52:06 currently using PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers ?= "2.6.18" Feb 06 14:52:10 anyothers=any newers Feb 06 14:52:11 I'll try : Feb 06 14:52:29 PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers ?= "2.6.15.11" and see if anything different happens Feb 06 14:52:46 how can I remote the 5 second warning from bitbake unstable? Feb 06 14:53:37 do I need to be specifying a PREFERRED_VERSION for uclibc? generic-uclibc doesn't seem to Feb 06 14:53:43 natezg: note that you will probably need new configs for uclibc 0.9.28 Feb 06 14:54:11 natezg: on your question yesterday, you should have plenty of memory to boot glibc. Feb 06 14:54:31 cbrake:hmm, mysterous then Feb 06 14:54:42 natezg: the NSLU2 has 32MB if I recall correctly. Feb 06 14:55:04 nslu2 has 32MB ram Feb 06 14:55:28 can be upgraded to 64/128/256MB Feb 06 14:56:14 * cbrake should upgrade his NSLU2 backup server ... I suspect it would run rsync over ssh much better w/ more RAM. Feb 06 14:56:20 2.6.20 kernel headers should work with uclibc ~0.9.29 Feb 06 14:56:35 seems to work in buildroot Feb 06 14:57:14 ade|desk : I think we need to keep up with uclibc new versions Feb 06 14:58:06 ade|desk : i am working with 0.9.28 at the moment. ppc,and x86 work with it and gcc 4.x Feb 06 14:59:49 0.9.28 is rather old now (aug 2005) , even 0.9.28.1 is just a small bug fixed do_for_now interim release Feb 06 15:01:37 ade|desk : i know but i haven't 'venture out' to anything newer... Feb 06 15:02:00 cbrake:well I think I'm still going to build with uclibc even if it's not required, I see no reason to use glibc, but please share horror stories Feb 06 15:02:08 when i run bitabke i have an error Feb 06 15:02:13 www.pastebin.ca/342779 Feb 06 15:02:21 you know how i resolv it Feb 06 15:02:27 kernel ,missing ? Feb 06 15:03:05 disaster: to me it sounds more like some wireless stuff is not enabled in the kernel, but thats just a wild guess of mine :> Feb 06 15:03:06 disaster: don't cross-post Feb 06 15:04:07 i think i found the problem: do_configure() is set to call autotools_do_configure which deletes any ./configure file it finds Feb 06 15:04:28 i tried to create my own do_configure() which calls oe_runconf but it didn't work Feb 06 15:04:45 natezg: I've never had a good reason to use uclibc yet -- there memory boundaries were such that moving to glibc would not move us to the next lowest part. Feb 06 15:04:55 i must activate the kenel option ? Feb 06 15:05:41 natezg: once you have the GTK stack and all the other stuff you need, glibc is pretty much a wash. But not all systems require huge libs like GTK. Feb 06 15:05:41 disaster: to me it sounds like it, but again - I am just guessing from your error message, I do not know what you need Feb 06 15:06:17 i have not need of wireless Feb 06 15:06:35 i must remove this step maybe ? Feb 06 15:07:29 Eblis_, grep for do_configure in other bb files and see if you can figure things out Feb 06 15:07:40 Crofton: i think i found the problem Feb 06 15:07:53 good :) Feb 06 15:07:54 i configured my own do_configure but then i was inheriting autotools Feb 06 15:08:11 now i've switched them around, inherit autotools first, then configure do_configure :) Feb 06 15:08:11 seems to work Feb 06 15:08:33 is what i did ok ? :) Feb 06 15:09:08 rebuilding, while I'm waiting some general questions about uclibc Feb 06 15:09:33 Eblis_, I think if you overrife do_configure, you do not need to inherit autotools Feb 06 15:09:39 but check with a real guru Feb 06 15:09:53 maybe look in autotools and see what is defined there Feb 06 15:10:09 I noticed PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}-libc-for-gcc = "glibc-intermediate" is still defined in generic-uclibc Feb 06 15:10:58 It appears that most uclibc configuration is being done simply be redefining TARGET_OS = "linux-uclibc" Feb 06 15:11:08 Is this right? and how does it relate to package selection? Feb 06 15:12:35 Crofton: you say how i remove in step when i run bibake angstrom-gpe-image Feb 06 15:13:01 because wireless is not enabled in my kernel Feb 06 15:14:50 natezg: have a look at http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/include/angstrom-uclibc.inc Feb 06 15:15:30 angstrom uses uclibc by default or no? Feb 06 15:15:42 Zero_Chaos: nope Feb 06 15:15:48 good Feb 06 15:17:04 only if you do ANGSTROM_MODE = "uclibc" in local.conf Feb 06 15:18:07 okay, cool, I was concerned for a second Feb 06 15:18:24 koen can you help me please? Feb 06 15:18:25 is there such a thing as: PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-uclibc-headers ? Feb 06 15:18:37 or should I be using PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers? Feb 06 15:18:47 it's possible to delte in step when i run bitbake angstrom-gpe-image Feb 06 15:19:00 natezg: linux-libc-headers are for any {g,uc}libc Feb 06 15:19:25 natezg: the problem is that uclibc seems to want internal kernel stuff, which it should not want Feb 06 15:20:55 because the madwifi-ng create an error because wirless is not enable in kenel option Feb 06 15:20:59 well I'll try some different versions, see if I can get different messages... Feb 06 15:21:26 and i have not need of the wireless Feb 06 15:21:45 koen:could it be related to the maverick crunch support? Feb 06 15:22:42 why is madwifi-ng in angstrom-gpe-image anyway? doesn't work for usb and I don't know any devices supported by angstrom that have cardbus Feb 06 15:25:32 Zero_Chaos: which machine? Feb 06 15:26:16 hrw: disaster is building angstrom-gpe-image and getting madwifi-ng, but as I said, what devices has an atheros that is supported? I don't know any. Feb 06 15:26:42 i have juste leave by default the angstrom configuration Feb 06 15:26:59 epia Feb 06 15:28:06 epia has PCI Feb 06 15:28:22 pci feature == madwifi-ng Feb 06 15:28:50 any more questions? Feb 06 15:29:46 hrw: epia is what? I didn't know that there were embedded devices with pci (that's is sweet) Feb 06 15:30:30 epia is x86 platform Feb 06 15:30:40 ahh Feb 06 15:30:54 via epia - popular small mainboard family Feb 06 15:31:11 no offense to OE, but on x86 I think I like gentoo better :-) Feb 06 15:32:07 Zero_Chaos: I have x86 board here supported by OE - progear Feb 06 15:32:08 Zero_Chaos: its slow, has 112MB ram (non-extendable) and very slow 2.5" hdd Feb 06 15:32:08 hrw: it'possible to remove madwifi-ng Feb 06 15:32:20 because i have error missing kernel Feb 06 15:32:23 disaster: disable pci feature Feb 06 15:32:30 where ? Feb 06 15:32:35 hrw: I see the need, I was just stating my preference ;-) Feb 06 15:33:01 Timing cached reads: 496 MB in 2.01 seconds = 247.06 MB/sec Feb 06 15:33:01 Timing buffered disk reads: 42 MB in 3.05 seconds = 13.77 MB/sec Feb 06 15:33:34 ine epia.conf ? Feb 06 15:33:39 disaster: yes Feb 06 15:34:20 Zero_Chaos: quite slow machine Feb 06 15:34:22 but my networking card will working ? Feb 06 15:35:08 disaster: no, your ne-759 card will not work Feb 06 15:35:46 i have need of the networking Feb 06 15:35:51 i do how ? Feb 06 15:35:55 please Feb 06 15:36:58 disaster: you use epia board or own one? Feb 06 15:37:28 lets do that step by step Feb 06 15:38:16 yes kontron ePanel-c3 Feb 06 15:39:04 so i begin to disable pci features to view if the image compil succefull ? Feb 06 15:40:39 hint for others: double check where keyboard is connected before pressing alt-cltr-backspace Feb 06 15:41:50 disaster: you have own machine which has to be other then one already provided in OE. right? Feb 06 15:43:36 disaster: 2. you selected MACHINE="epia" for similarity with your board but want to change some things in config. Feb 06 15:43:50 yes Feb 06 15:43:55 is already config Feb 06 15:44:24 disaster: do you need any extra patches to vanilla kernel or just own kernel config? Feb 06 15:45:32 i think just own kernel config Feb 06 15:45:51 disaster: use packages/linux/linux_2.6.20.bb recipe then Feb 06 15:45:58 i must use this system to run Xorg-kdrive, suspend-desktop en vlc-gpe Feb 06 15:46:18 disaster: create own image file then Feb 06 15:46:24 s/file/recipe Feb 06 15:47:16 i just run ...bitbake -b packages/linux/linux_2.6.20.bb Feb 06 15:47:31 or i must include this line in my local.conf? Feb 06 15:48:18 disaster: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux" Feb 06 15:49:30 disaster: bitbake -b doesn't account for dependancies, I'd be careful with that Feb 06 15:50:06 kk Feb 06 15:50:28 hrw, do you need an omap kernel with the real time patches ? Feb 06 15:51:24 Crofton: no Feb 06 15:51:30 :) Feb 06 15:51:34 didn't think so Feb 06 15:51:43 I am having to try and build it though Feb 06 15:51:43 hrw: i must not editother files like angstrom.conf or epia.conf if i add this line in my local.conf ? Feb 06 15:52:21 fortunately, I can do this in bb collections now Feb 06 15:54:43 XorA: O the comic not a comparison, sorry a little slow this morning, I restrict myself to coffee after lunch ;-) Feb 06 15:55:21 natezg: :-D Feb 06 16:16:43 cu Feb 06 16:31:52 I have a patch I am applying that has some rejects that I need to ignore Feb 06 16:32:13 how can I do this in OE? Right now it drops into a shell during the build? Feb 06 16:33:48 Crofton: won't it just continue if you hit ctrl-d Feb 06 16:34:25 it does, but it doesn't apply the next patch apparently Feb 06 16:38:23 mhm Feb 06 16:50:11 There is the following situation. I have cpu's that need different uclibc configs. the ppc 405 for example lacks an fpu unit the 440 and 603e have. should i define one as arch=ppc and the other arch=powerpc ? Feb 06 16:51:22 code generate for both of them is binary compatible. the units that don't have an fpu handle the exeptions from the kernel and as such even apps which use hard fp run Feb 06 16:51:44 any recomendations ? Feb 06 16:56:54 Ifaistos: each machine already has a seperate uclibc config Feb 06 16:57:14 koen, any hints on how to force patches? Feb 06 16:57:25 Crofton: fix the patch? Feb 06 16:57:30 no Feb 06 16:57:40 koen : But do we need them per machine or per cpu ? Feb 06 16:57:41 patch is rt patch against mainlline kernel Feb 06 16:58:04 it is known not to apply cleanly versus the omap kernel tree Feb 06 16:58:05 Ifaistos: uclibc has a 3 way split: machine, arm, distro iirc Feb 06 16:58:25 this is a temporary thing for me, so won't go into dev Feb 06 16:58:42 at least until clean patches are available or work goes upstream Feb 06 16:58:54 koen : i assume arm=arch right ? Feb 06 17:00:44 koen : do you agree in spliting the powerpc based cpu's to 'arch=ppc' for those without and fpu and arch=powerpc to those with fpu ? Feb 06 17:00:46 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rb9a2e751... 10/ (7 files in 7 dirs): ecore: add missing patch Feb 06 17:01:08 Ifaistos: no Feb 06 17:03:00 koen : how should we handle it then ? have only powerpc and then let everyboard define each own uclibc config if the "generic" one does not fit ? Feb 06 17:14:35 What's up with monotone.openembedded.org? mtn pull took 12 minutes (27 revs) Feb 06 17:15:41 ~lart justinp Feb 06 17:15:42 * ibot whacks justinp with the cluebat Feb 06 17:15:46 folks: please don't commit anything Feb 06 17:15:50 we need to disapprove the last one Feb 06 17:16:17 koen: could you please do it or tell me how :) I never did that Feb 06 17:17:12 * mickeyl glad he always has an eye on commits Feb 06 17:18:07 Where is the parser for SRC_URI, I am trying to figure out if I can pass some arguments to quilt on a per path basis Feb 06 17:30:32 Who is the expert on the patching process? Feb 06 17:36:39 how does one get access to submit projects to OE ? :D Feb 06 18:00:32 mickey|bbl: mtn disapprove ; mtn sync ; mtn up Feb 06 18:01:14 Eblis: attach them to the bug tracker, if you attach enough good ones we'll get lazy and give you commit access Feb 06 18:02:33 hey koen Feb 06 18:03:21 hey mreimer Feb 06 18:03:24 i want to copy a file from a relative path (files/) inside my project to the sources folder. i'm using this: cp files/cpu-arm.h ${S}/mono-${PV}/mono/mini/ but it doesn't work Feb 06 18:03:39 i think i need to specify the full source path but i do not know what variable to use Feb 06 18:04:03 those files get copied into ${WORKDIR} by OE Feb 06 18:04:34 so you need to do cp ${WORKDIR}/cpu-arm.h ${S}/mono/mini/ Feb 06 18:04:47 aha, thanks Feb 06 18:15:11 grrr stuck again at the libxslt build... anybody remembers what the fix was? Feb 06 18:17:28 i've used cp ${WORKDIR}/cpu-arm.h ${S}/mono/mini/ and this is the error i get: cp: cannot stat `/home/loki/work/openembedded/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/mono-1.2.2.1-r0/cpu-arm.h': No such file or directory Feb 06 18:17:51 is cpu-arm in your SRC_URI? Feb 06 18:17:52 i couldn't find the file cpu-arm.h in that folder, does oe copy it automatically or do i have to call something ? Feb 06 18:18:07 cpu-arm.h is inside packages/mono/files Feb 06 18:18:17 uclibc appears to be broken with gcc 4.1.1 for all kernel headers 2.6.18 and 2.6.15.99 Feb 06 18:18:20 it needs to be in SRC_URI as well Feb 06 18:18:31 taking cbrakes advice and moving back to glibc for now Feb 06 18:18:34 aha Feb 06 18:19:12 http://rafb.net/p/c4QJNe46.html Feb 06 18:19:14 like that Feb 06 18:20:24 aha, thanks Feb 06 18:22:34 If I declare ramdisks in the kernel config, do they suck up memory if I don't do anything with them in user space? Feb 06 18:23:49 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd2b2fe5f... 10/ (7 files in 7 dirs): disapproval of revision 'b9a2e7516cc3620c51495eadf5a2d938086881a9' Feb 06 18:26:57 l/arm-angstrom-linux-libc-for-gcc) Feb 06 18:26:57 NOTE: multiple providers are available for drm (drm, libdrm); Feb 06 18:26:57 NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_drm Feb 06 18:26:57 NOTE: Preparing Runqueue Feb 06 18:27:07 hmmm, drm???? Feb 06 18:28:31 How do I add packages to bootstrap-image Feb 06 18:34:49 philippe: you probably want libdrm, not drm Feb 06 18:34:54 drm is old and obsolete Feb 06 18:35:12 is this digital rights management? Feb 06 18:35:19 Or direct rendering? Feb 06 18:35:21 natezg: no, they only use memory when you actually put files in them Feb 06 18:35:23 philippe: the latter Feb 06 18:35:28 pb_, any progress on a new distro ;) Feb 06 18:35:31 I going to beg for info on passing arguments to the patch system Feb 06 18:35:39 mccarthy: heh, sorry, not yet Feb 06 18:35:48 I still have hope though Feb 06 18:36:17 I wish I even knew what was wrong with trying to run angstrom on my h5000 .... Feb 06 18:36:32 pb_:thx Feb 06 18:36:53 I cannot build an image myself, and when I try to use some of the testing images, none include any wifi or lcd support :( Feb 06 18:37:13 mccarthy: doh Feb 06 18:37:37 what goes wrong when you try to build one? Feb 06 18:37:50 grr, since when does xchat do this stupid spellcheck-as-you-type thing? Feb 06 18:37:53 * pb_ stabs his computer Feb 06 18:38:22 ah, that's better, you can turn it off in preferences Feb 06 18:38:52 pb_, it builds. it also hangs :( (with no clue as to why in the console) Feb 06 18:39:02 this "cannot setup thread-local storage" problem is killing me.. does anyone have an idea on how I could even start debugging this issue? Feb 06 18:39:10 mccarthy: oh dear Feb 06 18:39:24 Jin^eLD: what's the actual problem? Feb 06 18:39:28 i.e. where are you seeing that message? Feb 06 18:39:34 hmm, how should i format the bug report when submitting the new package ? Feb 06 18:40:02 mccarthy: how far does it get before it hangs? Feb 06 18:40:21 pb_: thats day 2 for me with this :) I build a distro for a mipsel target, glibc 2.5, gcc 4.1.1; now, right after the rootfs is being mounted I get a kernel panic and a message: cannot set up thead-local storage: unknown error Feb 06 18:40:27 h5000 always used to have this "self destruct after twenty seconds" bug with 2.6 but I thought that was fixed nowadays Feb 06 18:40:33 is gstreamer a good way to play audio from Linux applictations? Looking for something a little easier tha alsalib ... Feb 06 18:40:36 uncompressing kernel .... ... .... Feb 06 18:40:46 Jin^eLD: that sounds like you are trying to boot a tls glibc on a non tls kernel Feb 06 18:41:10 pb_, I am going to clean out all of my (failed) edits to conf files and try again ... (cross your fingers!) Feb 06 18:41:11 mccarthy: oh, heh. do you get anything on the serial console? Feb 06 18:41:15 okay Feb 06 18:41:16 good luck! Feb 06 18:41:21 pb_: oooh.. so the kernel has something to do with it, thats the first hint I got! thanks Feb 06 18:41:28 that's the last thing . just the uncompressing message Feb 06 18:41:33 pb_: the kernel is a 2.6.12 Feb 06 18:42:02 do you know what I have to enable to support tls there? I searched through the defconfig of vanilla but could not find anything useful Feb 06 18:42:18 or tls only available in later kernels? Feb 06 18:42:23 do you know if the machine.conf has the correct modules listed for fb and wifi, or do I need to look around for them? (I tried to add some at7(other numbers) module, but it faile dto build) Feb 06 18:42:32 Jin^eLD: no idea, sorry. I don't know much about mips. Feb 06 18:43:06 pb_: ok.. thanks a lot! at least I have a clue on where to look now Feb 06 18:43:06 mickey|bbl, I guess you aren't around ... Feb 06 18:43:18 mccarthy: dunno. best to try without fb and wifi to start with, I guess, and add them later once you can at least boot to a shell prompt Feb 06 18:43:31 bbiab Feb 06 18:43:33 * pb_ -> Feb 06 18:44:12 hey pb_, cbrake Feb 06 18:45:12 hey pb_ Feb 06 18:45:31 RP: do you have a minute for a quick ohci-pxa27x question? Feb 06 18:47:36 mickey|bbl: thanks Feb 06 18:47:48 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r0d2c2ae1... 10/ (1 packages/efl/ecore/remove-bad-code.patch): ecore: re-add missing patch (thanks Mickeyl) Feb 06 18:47:48 kergoth: hello Feb 06 18:48:17 hi kergoth Feb 06 18:48:22 hi mreimer Feb 06 18:53:34 Any numbers optimizing from general arm to xscale specific would do? Not my area of expertise Feb 06 18:58:19 I just noticed task-bootstrap is in packages/obsolete, should I be using something else? Feb 06 18:58:44 task-base Feb 06 18:59:05 ah thx Feb 06 19:03:30 task-base doesn't appear to create a disk image, is this correct? Feb 06 19:06:44 natezg: right Feb 06 19:07:25 natezg: task-base is just a meta package that describes what packages are needed. Feb 06 19:07:43 natezg: typically you need to build a *-image package to generate an image. Feb 06 19:08:32 alright, so this goes back to the original question, if bootstrap-image is obsolete, what replaces it? Feb 06 19:09:19 natezg: I don't think bootstrap-image is obsolete unless you are building angstrom. Feb 06 19:09:29 natezg: in that case, build angstrom-bootstrap-image Feb 06 19:09:59 cbrake:ah your right, I was looking at it wrong Feb 06 19:10:16 task-bootstrap is obsolete though Feb 06 19:10:25 natezg: excactly :-) Feb 06 19:10:44 so my distro .conf file contains an incorrect line:PREFERRED_PROVIDER_task-bootstrap = "task-bootstrap" Feb 06 19:10:53 (stolen from generic.conf) Feb 06 19:11:26 natezg: hmm, that does not seem right ... Feb 06 19:11:40 indeed, digging a bit Feb 06 19:12:23 natezg: its seems that the generic distro should be using task-base. Does anyone know of a reason why it is still task-bootstrap? Feb 06 19:12:45 hm, I wonder why task-bootstrap was obsoleted. Feb 06 19:13:41 task-base allows better selection of machine features I think Feb 06 19:13:43 pb_: I think the idea was to migrate from task-bootstrap to task-base Feb 06 19:14:07 I have a patch fail in btbake Feb 06 19:14:15 should I ?:PREFERRED_PROVIDER_task-bootstrap = "task-base" Feb 06 19:14:20 it drops me into a shell so I can fix rejects Feb 06 19:14:38 but the rejects do not need ficing, I just want to continue to the next patch Feb 06 19:14:43 how do I do this Feb 06 19:15:00 hvontres|poodle: mm, that seems like a distro specific thing. I guess there are some distros for which task-bootstrap is still the right thing. Feb 06 19:15:07 ^d alone skips the next patch, which I need Feb 06 19:15:46 is there any mirror for portmap 5.25 ? Feb 06 19:16:09 natezg: I'm not sure PREFERRED_PROVIDER_task-bootstrap even needs to be set any more with task-base builds Feb 06 19:16:30 cbrake:I'll just strip it out and see what it does Feb 06 19:17:24 pb_: sounds about righ. But I think for new distros, task-base is the recommended way to go... not that I have that much of a clue :) Feb 06 19:17:42 natezg: if you look at packages/images/bootstrap-image.bb, it seems ${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} is the critical variable. Feb 06 19:28:06 if my machine.conf sets GLIBC_ADDONS = "something" and glibc-intermediate.bb has GLIBC_ADDONS ?= "otherting", then the settings will be the ones used in machine.conf, right? Feb 06 19:28:12 somehow it does not work out that way Feb 06 19:28:44 it still took the settings from the .bb file Feb 06 19:29:24 any idea why that might be happening? Feb 06 19:39:31 A little dated, but still funny: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Feb 06 19:43:09 hehe, actually the best part about it is this line: "If you cannot see the picture above, please click here for the [GIF Version]" :))))) Feb 06 19:47:33 I see that the xscale-cache-workaround patch is not part of the Linux-rp-2.6.20, I'm assuming that means the patch is mainstream now. Feb 06 19:51:56 Hi all I'm starting to read about openembedded and starting to thing that I'll use it to made a distro to a armeabi ... But I couldn't yet to figure out how the crosscompile works and when it happens ... can somebody try to help me to figure it out ? Feb 06 19:53:30 vivijim: have you read this? http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Feb 06 19:53:37 it helped me to get started Feb 06 19:53:54 this article also helped me quite a lot http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/FirstProject Feb 06 19:54:55 re Feb 06 19:55:01 wb Feb 06 19:55:22 Crofton__: apply patch, ignore rejects, refresh patch, add refreshed one into SRC_URI - thats the proper way Feb 06 19:55:39 the gettingstarted yes, the firstproject no .. I'll read it right now Thank you Jin^eLD ... Feb 06 19:55:52 np Feb 06 19:56:00 hrw, this is just a temporary way to get rt into omap kernel Feb 06 19:57:10 hrw: wb. Did you ever get a chance to test #1806? Feb 06 19:58:31 hvontres|poodle: forgotten.. Feb 06 19:59:42 it would appear what I want to do, does not work under quilt Feb 06 20:01:53 * hrw goes to cleaning driver Feb 06 20:06:48 how do you ass extra packages to bootstrap-image these days? Feb 06 20:09:46 DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENS Feb 06 20:10:11 ah Feb 06 20:10:14 thanks Feb 06 20:10:33 so if I want to add python to bootstrap-image I add Feb 06 20:10:43 DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS = "python" Feb 06 20:10:54 I would create python-image.bb then Feb 06 20:11:08 and I do not need DISTRO_EXTRA_DEPENDS? Feb 06 20:11:25 I am working with a guy playing with an OSK Feb 06 20:11:30 and he wants to add python Feb 06 20:11:32 DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS are for distro things Feb 06 20:11:47 then create python-image which will install task-base and python Feb 06 20:11:48 I don't want to commit stuff for everyone that asks for soemthing :) Feb 06 20:12:16 then keep such recipes in own place Feb 06 20:12:22 I can use DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS for "prototyping" Feb 06 20:12:31 from local.conf Feb 06 20:14:11 if we go beyond prototyping, we'll use bbcollections to set up a local area to make the custom image Feb 06 20:17:04 hrw, people are actually starting to use OE for OSK work :) Feb 06 20:17:11 great Feb 06 20:18:13 I just discovered that my ramdisk is 64MB, that probably accounts for my boot crashes on the arm Feb 06 20:18:34 It appears to be set by IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2 Feb 06 20:18:44 is this typically set in the distro .conf file? Feb 06 20:19:01 rebuilding Feb 06 20:20:28 didn't notice it before because compressed it was only a few MB, which makes sense as it was mostly compressing fill Feb 06 20:28:01 setting IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2 = "16384" in my dist config didn't change the ramdisk size, how am I supposed to do this? Feb 06 20:31:03 hrw: np. just checking :) Feb 06 20:32:03 o i c : IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2.gz = "16384" Feb 06 20:42:57 cu Feb 06 20:49:12 A native package I try to build fails with "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found". Is there any other way to deal with this but have OE build a gtk+-2.0 package? It seems that would be a lot of work to set up. Can I just install a particular package on my host system? Feb 06 21:04:47 what's the default passord for new builds? where does this come from? Feb 06 21:05:00 IPAC9302 login: ???? Feb 06 21:05:03 what password? Feb 06 21:05:08 try pressing enter :> Feb 06 21:05:10 that'd be a distro thing I guess. the default default is "root" and no password Feb 06 21:05:12 root / enter Feb 06 21:05:23 ah, there we go, thx Feb 06 21:26:12 it works! Feb 06 21:26:15 but..... Feb 06 21:26:44 takes a long time to generate the rsa key Feb 06 21:26:53 and it's a ramdisk so it's going to do that every time Feb 06 21:27:46 gonna have to figure out a plan for that, open to suggestions Feb 06 21:32:46 natezg: what are you working on? Feb 06 21:33:25 basic oe distribution for a new ep92xx board of ours Feb 06 21:33:33 boots up from a ramdisk Feb 06 21:33:48 heh, way out of my realm, sorry Feb 06 21:33:49 forgot about the rsa key generation, right now I probably need to hard code it to somethign\ Feb 06 21:34:04 until I get the secondary media up Feb 06 21:34:17 yeah, probably Feb 06 21:34:18 anyone know how to hardcode an rsa key to the build? Feb 06 21:35:29 (easily) is there an option for that or anything Feb 06 21:36:04 in OZ, how much space would a completely compiled/packaged .dev branch take up? Feb 06 21:37:08 natezg: I typically boot from jffs2. Was your boot issue the ramdisk size? Feb 06 21:42:28 cbrake:yep Feb 06 21:42:59 cbrake:always check the basics first.......... Feb 06 21:43:13 cbrake:is what I tell the interns and what do I do? Feb 06 21:44:31 jffs2 might not be a bad plan Feb 06 21:44:49 XIP you mean? Feb 06 21:48:03 natezg: no, just straight jffs2 flash file system. Feb 06 21:48:36 natezg: yeah, that are lots of little details to be concerned with, so your experience is typical -- had plenty of those myself :-) Feb 06 21:48:55 I suppose If I just raw wrote the image to flash with redboot and configured it in the kernel that should do it Feb 06 21:49:27 or no, I'd have to mount the flash with MTD woudn't I Feb 06 21:49:44 scary business Feb 06 21:49:52 but probably worth it Feb 06 21:50:34 I'll look into that, thx Feb 06 21:58:13 natezg: yup, its the way to go :-) Feb 06 22:00:04 natezg: here is a kernel command line that I once used: root=/dev/mtdblock2 rootfstype=jffs2 console=ttyS0,115200 mtdparts=phys_mapped_flash:256k(boot)ro,0x1C0000(kernel),-(root) Feb 06 22:00:24 natezg: you can set up the MTD partitions completely on the cmdline without writing a custom mapping driver -- very nice! Feb 06 22:01:06 natezg: you may want to keep booting from your ramdisk until you get all the jffs2/mtd stuff working. Feb 06 22:03:12 cbrake:hey, very nice, I'll check that out Feb 06 22:45:39 OE isn't copying my kernels image directory files into the distribution, why would that be? does something need to be defined in the distro configuration? Feb 06 22:58:44 natezg check your distro file Feb 06 22:58:58 natezg or your machine.conf Feb 06 23:18:04 gerwinin:for what? Feb 06 23:19:54 Somewhere it is saying there that the kernel image should not be included Feb 06 23:24:26 gerwinin:sure it is, but what's the syntax for that? Feb 06 23:25:31 does it matter that my PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel is defined in the machine file and not the dist? Feb 06 23:26:23 or should it no be virtual, is that the problem Feb 06 23:27:29 natezg let me check something one moment Feb 06 23:29:39 natezg which target are you compiling for Feb 06 23:29:49 bootstrap-image Feb 06 23:29:50 natezg and which distro ? Feb 06 23:30:01 my own distro, build off of generic.conf Feb 06 23:36:25 natezg I had one time the same problem and than I had to add something Feb 06 23:36:33 so I will check for a moment Feb 06 23:36:37 kk Feb 06 23:36:45 thx Feb 06 23:36:48 But for which machine are you compiling ? Feb 06 23:36:53 For x86 ? Feb 06 23:36:56 Or epia ? Feb 06 23:36:59 arm Feb 06 23:37:22 it's modified version of the ep93xx configuration Feb 06 23:38:40 What did you set for root flash ? Feb 06 23:40:21 using a ramdisk Feb 06 23:43:24 natezg: try to include it in the bootstrap image Feb 06 23:43:37 package file Feb 06 23:45:20 looked there, but it seems to be figuring out what to include based upon the machine and dist files somehow. Feb 06 23:45:31 I probably just need to go back and read the docs some more Feb 06 23:45:34 thx **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 07 02:59:57 2007