**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 08 02:59:59 2007 Feb 08 04:15:27 Doh, those cookies didn't come out too good :/ Nobody will buy these at the bake sale >_< Feb 08 04:16:38 should I try making cream puffs.... Feb 08 07:43:23 morning Feb 08 08:31:50 morning all Feb 08 08:32:12 hi XorA ade|desk Feb 08 08:32:26 morning Feb 08 08:45:55 morning all Feb 08 08:47:31 RP: hi here too Feb 08 08:47:44 hrw: :) Feb 08 08:55:10 morning all Feb 08 08:55:15 hi Dirk Feb 08 08:55:27 hi Marcin Feb 08 08:55:32 hi Dirk Feb 08 08:57:36 hey Richard Feb 08 08:58:35 anyone else seeing image building failing with the error "cat: rm: No such file or directory" Feb 08 09:00:48 * hrw builds images with old poky Feb 08 09:13:27 XorA: I could be guilty... Feb 08 09:14:01 RP: ah, got an idea? Feb 08 09:15:21 XorA: mtn pull ;-) Feb 08 09:16:14 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd1370b15... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf): zaurus-clamshell.conf: Add missing ; Feb 08 09:16:38 RP: doh, and I was looking at the package.bbclass changes to rm -rf directories Feb 08 09:17:36 XorA: I think one of my commits was at fault. Too many different branches to maintain... Feb 08 09:20:19 hey Liam Feb 08 09:21:49 hey lrg Feb 08 09:23:18 RP: NOTE: package angstrom-gpe-image-1.0: completed thanks for quick fix Feb 08 09:23:23 hey Dirk, Graeme Feb 08 09:23:27 morning all Feb 08 09:23:50 hi Feb 08 09:31:59 hi Liam, pH5 Feb 08 10:16:04 Good morning Feb 08 10:16:22 ~ping crofton Feb 08 10:16:33 pong crofton Feb 08 10:16:59 I'm trying to bitbake gpe-image, machine: akita, distro:openzaurus-unstable. However, 'quilt' is giving me an error. Any clue? Feb 08 10:19:12 frank7d: yes - you have an error Feb 08 10:19:40 brb Feb 08 10:37:44 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rff81c79c... 10/ (1 packages/uim/uim.inc packages/uim/uim_1.3.1.bb): uim: update SRC_URI, fix SECTION, misc clean up Feb 08 10:37:51 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r7d792bf3... 10/ (1 packages/uim/uim_1.3.1.bb): uim: libs not lib SECTION Feb 08 10:37:55 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re0427632... 10/ (1 packages/poboxserver/poboxserver_1.2.5.bb): poboxserver: fix SECTION Feb 08 10:37:59 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r4667a764... 10/ (1 packages/anthy/anthy_7811.bb): anthy: fix SECTION, minor clean up Feb 08 10:38:03 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rd49c7a58... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): kpengine: fix SECTION and FILES Feb 08 10:46:08 hrw: Are commits to .documentation monitored by CIA-19? Feb 08 10:46:35 As you can see I repaired libs/inputmethod(s) Feb 08 10:47:02 I also changed usermanual/reference/var_section.xml, but I am not sure that got pushed. Feb 08 10:48:11 will check Feb 08 10:48:36 The file in the local tree does not have that section anymore. But mtn diff shows "no changes" while monotone-viz also show no commits today or yesterday for .documentation in my local oe.mtn. Feb 08 10:48:48 One of the three things must be wrong. Feb 08 10:54:26 Laibsch: you did not pushed documentation changes Feb 08 10:55:57 <_law_> i wanna copy some files before do_configure starts how can i do this in OE ? Feb 08 10:56:52 do_configure_prepend() Feb 08 10:58:30 <_law_> hrw, thanks Feb 08 10:58:35 Hi Law Feb 08 10:58:47 <_law_> jake_, hi Feb 08 10:58:58 I have a few minutes (at work) thought I'd say hi Feb 08 10:59:24 glad the serial diagnostics are useful Feb 08 11:00:17 <_law_> jake_, thanks btw. Feb 08 11:02:22 np, I'm used to setting up nfs servers - but not really sure how to get the axim booting across nfs Feb 08 11:02:35 unless it's just a kernel argument Feb 08 11:03:03 <_law_> jake_, setting up a nfs share shouldnt be that problem... Feb 08 11:04:22 ibot: spell paralysed Feb 08 11:04:24 possible spellings for paralysed: paralyzed paralysis paralyzes paralyze paroled praised paralleled paralysis's Feb 08 11:07:15 law, I have lokoed at setting up OE on my main Linux box - but it's Centos 4u4 (= Redhat AS 4), and it seems to have loads of dependancies, is it easier to install ark linux in a virtual machine(VMware) and go from there? Feb 08 11:08:03 hello; I think there are some unnoted dependencies between packages in oe - something from gpe-mini-browser's dependencies depends also on libavahi-glib1. It seems that it is libncrit.so Feb 08 11:10:24 <_law_> jake_, i use fedora core 6 here Feb 08 11:14:09 <_law_> jake_, but i think ubuntu should also do ... Feb 08 11:14:37 law, ok - it's fairly similar to Centos then from the admin side. As there are no instructions on making an OE enviroment for Redhat / Centos I'll make a VM and stick Fedora 6 in it :) Feb 08 11:15:03 I used OE on RHEL4 with same setup as I have on my debian boxes Feb 08 11:16:07 <_law_> jake_, so there should be any problem with centos Feb 08 11:16:32 hrw, thanks - so just use apt-get after adding openembedded to the sources.... nice :) Feb 08 11:26:42 gpe-mini-browser (and/or packages from its dependencies) seem to have big fraction of their dependencies unfilled... . Feb 08 11:47:25 Ifaistos, pong Feb 08 11:55:52 hrw: I had already commited but was not pushing from inside of the org.openembedded.documentation directory. Should be pushed now. Who is working on docs beside you and lenehan? Feb 08 12:18:53 Laibsch: koen, zecke, few others Feb 08 12:21:37 FOSDEM info: I will be Friday 18:25 @BRU, leaving Monday 13:05 @BRU Feb 08 12:22:08 hrw: I have made two commits and two pushes. Still, it looks like nothing arrived yet. Feb 08 12:22:32 I got 0 certs out and 0 revs out every time I pushed. Feb 08 12:22:43 Do I have write access to .documentation? Feb 08 12:25:38 mtn push monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.documentation Feb 08 12:26:30 I leave BRU at 14:15 Feb 08 12:26:38 monday? Feb 08 12:26:41 yeah Feb 08 12:26:54 I get there on Thursday AM Feb 08 12:27:12 I'll need a day or so to try and recover from flying Feb 08 12:27:20 and do some touron stuff Feb 08 12:39:10 Crofton: Hi ! Feb 08 12:39:20 Crofton: have a look at this -> http://www.powerdeveloper.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7095&sid=ba04eb288229916b38054a3f2ab201c6#7095 Feb 08 12:40:25 Crofton: seen anything like that ? Feb 08 12:40:28 Ifaistos: add rootdelay Feb 08 12:41:06 Ifaistos: rootdelay= iirc Feb 08 12:48:42 hrw : Forgot about it... thought that the bios would in a way pre-mount the device since it is accessing it Feb 08 12:53:39 Ifaistos, nope Feb 08 12:55:11 hrw: Do I have rw access to .documentation? Feb 08 12:55:57 probably Feb 08 12:56:32 Well, I cannot push anything to it, though. Feb 08 13:05:53 then contact koen or mickey|bbl Feb 08 13:08:15 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r57cbe59c... 10/ (1 usermanual/reference/var_section.xml): var_section: fixed libs/inputmethod Feb 08 13:08:16 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9b92e62a... 10/ (1 usermanual/reference/var_section.xml): var_section.xml: added "inputmethods" section after consultation with pH5 and hrw Feb 08 13:11:08 hrw: I was able to fix it with the help of #monotone. Feb 08 13:16:31 what was wrong? Feb 08 13:17:14 Since this was the first time for me to push to .doc, I needed to specify the branch explicitly. Feb 08 13:17:23 mtn push $server $branch Feb 08 13:17:38 I had only done "mtn push" Feb 08 13:17:40 08 13:57 < Laibsch> Do I have write access to .documentation? Feb 08 13:17:40 08 14:00 < hrw> mtn push monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.documentation Feb 08 13:18:55 That message never arrived here. Feb 08 13:19:16 Are you GMT +1,5 hours? Feb 08 13:20:02 I only got your "probably" Feb 08 13:20:54 hrw: Well, I missed that message among the Brussels talk. Feb 08 13:21:04 which bitbake version does support collections? Feb 08 13:24:31 Jin^eLD: 1.6 definitely does. I've not tried the trunk with collections. Feb 08 13:24:59 cbrake: I think I heard that not all of 1.6 do.. I guess I will just try it out Feb 08 13:25:49 Jin^eLD: 1.6.3 does then :-) Feb 08 13:25:55 :) Feb 08 13:29:24 Jin^eLD: any version Feb 08 13:29:45 hm.. ok then maybe it was my fault and I messed something up.. Feb 08 13:30:20 but I do understand that correctly: collections are good if you have same version numbers of packages, but your package has some additional patches and you want your package to be preferred over the default one, right? Feb 08 13:32:01 yes Feb 08 13:32:20 ok.. thx Feb 08 13:58:07 koen|away, it seems that "bitbake angstrom-gpe-image" is still ignoring the MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS defined in h5000.conf (even in the images that someone posted yesterday) Feb 08 13:59:11 when I explicitly put the same names in the RDEPENDS list of the angstrom-gpe-image.bb file they get included, but not without it Feb 08 13:59:28 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r1f066556... 10/ (1 packages/fush/fush_0.9.0.bb): fush: fix SECTION Feb 08 13:59:31 and, unfortunately, for some reason none of my builds actually boot anyway :( Feb 08 13:59:31 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r6519e2f0... 10/ (1 packages/opie-sh/opie-sh.inc): opie-sh: fix SECTION Feb 08 13:59:36 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rb463dbb8... 10/ (1 packages/sccd/sccd_1.0.bb): sccd: fix SECTION Feb 08 13:59:41 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * radeec49f... 10/ (1 packages/genlist/genlist.bb): genlist: fix SECTION Feb 08 13:59:46 (so I get the correct packages, but can do nothing with them) Feb 08 14:02:32 damn! still hanging at the "Freeing init memory: 80K" (right after mounting the root jffs2) Feb 08 14:02:46 hi mickeyl Feb 08 14:03:37 cheers Feb 08 14:04:33 did oe change dns servers again ? i can't access the site :( Feb 08 14:04:35 * hrw finally register domain for company Feb 08 14:04:53 the DEBUG_APPS variable that angstrom is using, is it something angstrom specific or will it work for any other distro as well? Feb 08 14:06:58 hi mickeyl Feb 08 14:14:09 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r534db6ab... 10/ (1 usermanual/reference/var_section.xml): var_section.xml: fixed and removed utility, console/shells and opie/Shell sections Feb 08 14:17:16 mickeyl: I will be 18:25 @BRU in Friday Feb 08 14:18:01 hrw: good timing! Feb 08 14:18:38 mickeyl: I know ;D Feb 08 14:19:01 hrw: we may meet on the airport then? Feb 08 14:19:08 s/on/at/ Feb 08 14:19:17 mickeyl: yes Feb 08 14:19:47 mickeyl: it gives me less things to worry as you know how to get to hotel and from hotel to beer event ;D Feb 08 14:20:09 right. Dirk and me are coming w/ LH4586, which is your connection? Feb 08 14:20:41 let me see... LH too Feb 08 14:20:53 LH4610 from Munich Feb 08 14:21:30 ok, noted. Feb 08 14:21:38 zecke will be at the airport as well Feb 08 14:21:50 ~same time? Feb 08 14:21:59 what is the best way to deal with "CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH" ? In the past I have used sed to replace it with STAGING_INCDIR but I always thought that was not the cleanest way. Feb 08 14:22:08 he arrives a couple of hours earlier, but said he will just relax and hack while waiting for us Feb 08 14:22:19 Mickeyl I registered for manning the booth Feb 08 14:22:30 mickeyl: greentux comes @16:30 Feb 08 14:22:53 gerwinin: excellent. much appreciated. we really need some handling the schedule of booth presence and perhaps also some flyers and posters. Feb 08 14:23:21 Mickeyl : shall I take this task ? Feb 08 14:23:40 gerwinin: no one took it yet Feb 08 14:23:40 gerwinin: absolutely, please! you will get many volunteers to help, but someone needs to take the wheel Feb 08 14:24:03 Mickeyl: Okay I will take the wheel Feb 08 14:24:11 ~praise gerwinin Feb 08 14:24:13 All hail gerwinin! Feb 08 14:24:16 Mickeyl: who has the merchandise ? Feb 08 14:24:52 gerwinin: that's one of the problems. we don't have any material yet. need to do a quick brainstorming via mailing list and then create latex posters and flyers Feb 08 14:25:09 it was a task I would have done if thesis defence wouldn't be in February Feb 08 14:25:10 Mickeyl: I can arrange some merchandise I think Feb 08 14:25:11 :/ Feb 08 14:25:15 cool, thansk Feb 08 14:25:37 Mickeyl: let's sell the merchandise and get money in for the project Feb 08 14:25:45 yeah :) Feb 08 14:26:18 MickeyL: Can you ask fic to contribute to the merchandise ? Feb 08 14:26:23 mickeyl: I plan to transfer spitz or tosa to Laibsch on fosdem Feb 08 14:26:41 gerwinin: i can ask, yeah Feb 08 14:26:46 hrw: sounds like a plan. Feb 08 14:26:54 i'm so out of the loop wrt zaurus, it hurts Feb 08 14:27:14 will come back in winter! Feb 08 14:27:33 mickeyl: atleast you do not get links to OM wiki pages which you cannot see Feb 08 14:27:54 MickeyL: some caps and t-shirts would be cool Feb 08 14:27:54 heh Feb 08 14:28:03 ya Feb 08 14:28:31 please black t-shirt ;) Feb 08 14:28:44 greetings all, I'm creating a custom bootstrap image, and I want to replace dropbear with openssh, of course they conflict, so I thought I could just do something like DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS = "-dropbear openssh" in my local.conf, but that doesn't work :( Feb 08 14:28:49 gremlin: How much would you like to spent on a t-shirt ? Feb 08 14:28:50 * hrw has white one Feb 08 14:29:05 10-15 E Feb 08 14:29:18 xumbi8: edit task-base.bb Feb 08 14:29:35 hrw: a-ha, ok thanks Feb 08 14:29:47 gerwinin, too low ? Feb 08 14:29:57 Gremlin : that depends a bit on Feb 08 14:30:11 Gremlin: we need somebody to prefinance the merchandise Feb 08 14:31:11 i understand ... keep me in touch and let's see .. i'll try to help ... Feb 08 14:37:53 another question... I'm working with a system that 128MB of flash, right now the images oe is creating are 64MB, I thought I could set ROOT_FLASH_SIZE = "128" in my machine's .conf file, but that doesn't seem to work Feb 08 14:40:01 xumbi8: ROOT_FLASH_SIZE is information only - we do not use it too much Feb 08 14:40:23 jffs2 images are usually not padded so they are so large as they need to be. Feb 08 14:40:24 hrw: ok, I just saw the variable and thought it made sense Feb 08 14:40:38 ext2 ones has fixed size Feb 08 14:40:54 right now I'm working with ext2, is there a way to increase it? Feb 08 14:42:08 you use ext2 on flash? Feb 08 14:42:15 compulab-pxa270? Feb 08 14:42:23 hehe, how did you guess? :) Feb 08 14:42:32 gerwinin, how much budget is need ? Feb 08 14:42:48 it use binary only driver to flash chip to export flash as block device Feb 08 14:43:02 xumbi8: and this driver does not allow this board to run EABI Feb 08 14:43:03 yes we're not happy about that Feb 08 14:43:16 we will most likely switch to jffs2 Feb 08 14:45:05 I'm not sure how to flash a jffs2 images on this board though, I don't think their flashing tools support jffs2, I've been able to boot to an IDE drive, setup a jffs2 filesystem on the mtd device, copy the filesystem into place, and boot into it, but that isn't a practical solution obviously Feb 08 14:45:57 xumbi8: contact cbrake (Cliff Brake) Feb 08 14:46:14 xumbi8: http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/62/9/ is a must read (if you did not read it before) Feb 08 14:46:52 Hi guys, I'm using a compulab-pxa270 as well. xumbi8: try setting IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2 = "98304" in your machine.conf (98304 blocks should be 96MB) Feb 08 14:46:59 Laibsch, when do you want to man the booth ? Feb 08 14:47:21 hrw: yes that is an excellent article, that is how I found out that a machine .conf had been created for this board Feb 08 14:47:41 apaulsen: hey thanks! I'll give that a try Feb 08 14:47:57 I switched to ext3 instead of ext2 after corrupting a few file systems due to unexpected reboots Feb 08 14:48:09 gerwinin: I will be on booth. just have to check what I want to see at fosdem Feb 08 14:48:22 apaulsen: are you planning on using ext3 for production? Feb 08 14:49:02 we are doing a very limited production right now with the compulab board, and yes it appears that we will stick with ext3 Feb 08 14:49:15 gerwinin: I have not yet made any plans what to see. But I think I can be pretty flexible. Feb 08 14:49:22 IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext3 = "106496" Feb 08 14:49:22 EXTRA_IMAGECMD_ext3 ?= "" Feb 08 14:49:22 IMAGE_DEPENDS_ext3 = "genext2fs-native e2fsprogs-native" Feb 08 14:49:22 IMAGE_CMD_ext3 = "genext2fs -b ${IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE} -d ${IMAGE_ROOTFS} ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/${IMAGE_NAME}.rootfs.ext3; \ Feb 08 14:49:22 tune2fs -j ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/${IMAGE_NAME}.rootfs.ext3; ${EXTRA_IMAGECMD}" Feb 08 14:49:24 Okay Feb 08 14:49:25 interesting, we're still undecided Feb 08 14:49:54 Laibsch I will register you at 4 or five time blocks :) Feb 08 14:50:04 Hrw: Okay cool Feb 08 14:50:36 Hrw: What will you bring ? Feb 08 14:50:40 I guess FOSDEM is not so big as to require time to be planned to get from booth A to X, right? Feb 08 14:51:06 Sort of 5 mins from end to end? Feb 08 14:51:20 yes Feb 08 14:51:23 Laibsch no but I need to make sure that there are at least two person on the booth to guard our stuff Feb 08 14:52:05 Mickeyl: are you gonna give a lecture ? Feb 08 14:52:21 gerwinin: probably my progear webpad (XGA display, Transmeta Crusoe 400MHz x86 compatible) Feb 08 14:52:38 gerwinin: and tosa or spitz for Laibsch Feb 08 14:52:49 gerwinin: Sure, I understand. I was just asking how I should plan some buffer time to get to and fro if there is anything I want to see. Feb 08 14:53:03 gerwinin: i'm having a 1/3 of a lecture guaranteed, one hour power- and device-management panel, and I'm backup for a full 1h OE lecture in case someone cancels Feb 08 14:53:11 hrw: I leave on Saturday evening. I hope it is OK if I take the device that night. Feb 08 14:53:21 Laibsch: no problemo Feb 08 14:53:26 gerwinin: + a lot of talks and appointments with people Feb 08 14:53:33 so I'm probably very busy and can only take few slots Feb 08 14:53:38 [of standing at the booth] Feb 08 14:53:56 MickeyL: maybe we can schedule some interactive demo's as well Feb 08 14:54:15 that'd be very nice, yeah. RP had something like that in mind as well Feb 08 14:54:36 mickeyl: When is that going to happen? Unfortunately, my plan got messed up for atttending the keysigning party. It was moved from Saturday (which is one of the reasons I came on Sat, not Sun) to Sunday. zecke's talk is also on Sunday :-/ Feb 08 14:54:37 gerwinin: please send your commitment to the mailing list to get the brainstorming restarted Feb 08 14:54:50 MickeyL okay Feb 08 14:54:53 Laibsch: when is which happening? Feb 08 14:55:05 mickeyl: Your presentation. Feb 08 14:55:33 I will be at keysigning party Feb 08 14:55:34 Laibsch: ah. I will appear on saturday in Sean Moss-Pultz OpenMoko presentation Feb 08 14:55:52 Oh, nice. At least I won't miss that one. Feb 08 14:55:54 Laibsch: as for the backup lecture, i have no idea yet. this won't be clear until saturday Feb 08 14:55:57 someone need cacert points? Feb 08 14:56:03 hrw: ME! Feb 08 14:56:06 i need to get my new key signed Feb 08 14:56:23 Laibsch: then take two ID with photo ;D Feb 08 14:56:44 I would also like to get my keys signed. Maybe we can have some kind of OE keysigning informally? I'd really appreciate. I am still at 0 here. Feb 08 14:57:04 hrw: two ID? I only have one that is valid. My passport. Feb 08 14:57:13 But you know me, right ;-) Feb 08 14:57:38 Laibsch: no driver license or goverment ID? Feb 08 14:57:52 hrw: OK, I do have a valid driver license. Feb 08 14:58:01 Laibsch: so you have 2 Feb 08 14:58:17 Will you also accept the Texas and CA driver license ;-) Those are kind of old, though ;-) Feb 08 14:58:29 hrw: Yes, I guess I have two, then. Feb 08 14:58:43 * mickeyl having appointment with Dr. Schaller :D Feb 08 14:58:49 (dhns) Feb 08 14:58:53 Laibsch: I think that some of us already have signed keys or will get them signed so we can have OE signignparty too Feb 08 14:59:49 mickeyl: I also need to generate new key for business mails Feb 08 15:01:22 brb Feb 08 15:04:06 gerwinin: I won't be available Saturday 17:00 - 17:45 -> attending openmoko Feb 08 15:04:25 Okay :) Feb 08 15:05:43 this will be hard moment probably... most will want to go Feb 08 15:07:11 mickeyl: I think the description of http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/events/embedded_openmoko is fairly, ahem, suboptimal. Only in the last sentence is there ever any mention of "phone". I guess not everyone know what openmoko is. This needs to be made clear in the first sentence IMHO. Feb 08 15:08:00 Laibsch: i agree. wasn't my responsibility... and too late to change now :) Feb 08 15:08:59 Bummer Feb 08 15:09:21 Or not. Leaves more seats for my fat ass Feb 08 15:09:51 re http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/StyleGuide There is no information where DEFAULT_PREFERENCE would find its place. Before everything else? Feb 08 15:11:02 hrw ... there is a wiki or something else to manage the helps for fosdem ? Feb 08 15:11:14 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Fosdem2007 Feb 08 15:14:36 ok i'll take a look about talks on sunday and i'll sign for a couple of sessions :) Feb 08 15:16:00 this year there is a shitload of stuff interesting me Feb 08 15:16:04 I am triying to unify xserver-common. RDEPENDS is the same for all bb files except for the svn bb where it is RDEPENDS_${PN}. I guess I can just put RDEPENDS_${PN} into the include file and not have any problems, right? Feb 08 15:16:07 last year was different Feb 08 15:18:28 * gerwinin received 2x msp430 + jtag header board :) Feb 08 15:19:16 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra79533e9... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Add GPE Phone Edition mirror. Feb 08 15:19:20 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r42b6089a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Feb 08 15:19:20 x86 machine: Add some basic features, update kernel configuration to add support Feb 08 15:19:20 for more x86 based devices. Feb 08 15:19:24 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re0a3a7e8... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: Update myself :-) Feb 08 15:19:28 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rd5039444... 10/ (12 files in 3 dirs): gtk+: Add some patches to improve focus control using keyboard for 2.6.10. Feb 08 15:28:58 hi all Feb 08 15:29:19 ~seen zecke Feb 08 15:29:40 gerwinin: I will do some wiki editing Feb 08 15:29:46 gerwinin: on fosdem page Feb 08 15:29:49 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 18h 25m 31s ago, saying: 'later'. Feb 08 15:30:03 hrw : okay Feb 08 15:31:05 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r64b15a98... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): xtscal: unify Feb 08 15:31:11 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rbdcb3d24... 10/ (10 files in 2 dirs): xserver-common: unify, clean up Feb 08 15:34:40 gerwinin: some parts done Feb 08 15:35:27 now next part Feb 08 15:35:36 hrw: I sent mail to mailing -list as well Feb 08 15:36:18 ok Feb 08 15:36:25 OE website need better theming Feb 08 15:36:56 hrw: Could you link to the FOSDEM page from the entry page? It seems the FOSDEM page has very few incoming links and is hard to find. Feb 08 15:37:24 Laibsch: it is wiki - please do it Feb 08 15:42:08 Will the booth be open before 14:00 on Saturday? I thought that there were classes being held at ULB until then. Feb 08 15:42:39 hrw: I was talking about oe.org itself, not oe.org/wiki Feb 08 15:42:52 ah Feb 08 15:43:05 Laibsch, I asked the guys in #fosdem nd it sounds like we need to get set up early Feb 08 15:43:06 we need to add post to mainpage about fosdem Feb 08 15:43:12 the key notes start at Feb 08 15:43:15 .... Feb 08 15:43:46 opening welcome talk is at 10 Feb 08 15:44:02 the fosdem guys reckon the halls will be crowded by 9 or os Feb 08 15:44:20 i forwarded the mail i got from the booth administration Feb 08 15:44:24 it should be written in there Feb 08 15:45:10 The stand(s) will be at your disposal, Feb 08 15:45:10 - - Saturday: 14:00 -> 18:00 Feb 08 15:45:10 - - Sunday: 09:00 -> 18:00 Feb 08 15:45:10 Note that on Saturday, it will be somewhat tedious to build up the Feb 08 15:45:10 stands before 14:00 as university courses are being held in all rooms Feb 08 15:45:11 until then. Feb 08 15:45:32 interesting Feb 08 15:55:31 fscking firefox Feb 08 16:04:50 xumbi8: w/ reference to flashing JFFS2 on cm-x270 -- what I'll probably do eventually is put a small Linux image in NOR that is used to flash a JFFS2 image on NAND. Feb 08 16:05:17 xumbi8: do you have JFFS2 running on the NAND flash? Feb 08 16:07:53 cbrake: hello, yes I have been able to run a jffs2 file system, but in a roundabout way Feb 08 16:08:27 cbrake: ah interesting, that sounds like a good solution Feb 08 16:08:59 xumbi8: does the kernel have JFFS2 drivers that work with the NAND, or did you have to do some kernel work? Feb 08 16:09:10 cbrake: I have been booting to an IDE drive, then setting up the jffs2 file system on the mtd device, then I could reboot into it Feb 08 16:09:11 xumbi8: * NAND on the cm-x270 Feb 08 16:09:33 xumbi8: nod, that is not a bad solution for development. Feb 08 16:09:48 cbrake: it was just a matter of removing compulab's flash driver from the kernel and adding jffs2 support Feb 08 16:10:33 xumbi8: our "update" Linux image in NOR will probably copy images from USB flash to JFFS2/NAND. Feb 08 16:11:24 xumbi8: cool -- I was not sure if the JFFS2 drivers has support for the NAND used on the cm-x270 -- good to know. Feb 08 16:12:56 what task copies files from image to install directories in temp? Feb 08 16:16:12 cbrake: I followed these instructions to be able to use mtd: http://compulab-systems.com/web/linux/x270/x270_mtd.html Feb 08 16:19:02 cbrake: what levels of service does your company offer? if we decide to go with openembedded for our product, we might need to bring in some extra expertise Feb 08 16:20:20 morning Feb 08 16:20:48 where do I force OE to make an EABI enabled kernel? I am using h5000.conf and angstrom-200.1 distro (both of which I think *do* tell it to use eabi), but no joy ...? Feb 08 16:21:32 you need to make a kernel config that has eabi enabled Feb 08 16:21:35 xumbi8: pretty much any level you need. Some of my customers just want training, others need help getting started, others want everything done. Pretty much whatever you need. Feb 08 16:21:49 look at the linus-omap1....2.6.19 kernel bb file Feb 08 16:22:00 mccarthy: or look at the ep93xx config, which forces it into the .config Feb 08 16:22:17 mccarthy:bb script, not config I mean Feb 08 16:22:52 I had some trouble with that approach, so I used seperate config files Feb 08 16:23:09 Crofton, natezg I will try. there is alread a defconfig for h5000 that I thought I was forcing it to use, but ... Feb 08 16:23:32 xumbi8: thanks for the link -- I had not seen that site before. Wonder if it is run by compulab? Feb 08 16:24:32 cbrake: Yes it was sent to me by Mike Rapoport at compulab Feb 08 16:33:03 Israel I assume Feb 08 16:36:37 anyone know why the Home and End keys don't work in x-terminal-emulator on GPE? It seems to work everywhere else and is a little annoying Feb 08 16:42:20 hey koen|gprs_ Feb 08 16:42:46 hey XorA|gprs Feb 08 16:43:01 gprs must be a big place Feb 08 16:43:17 koen, I may be wrong, but I think my boot issue with angstrom is an eabi/oabi thing Feb 08 16:43:17 :) Feb 08 16:43:51 you mean oabi kernel/eabi rootfs? Feb 08 16:44:07 koen, for some reason my do_comfigure keeps saying n for CONFIG_EABI even though the defconfig in the tmp/work directory has it set Feb 08 16:44:10 koen, yes Feb 08 16:44:22 any ideas? Feb 08 16:44:47 you'd have to talk to psokolovsky Feb 08 16:45:08 * XorA|gprs enters please mug me ville edinburgh Feb 08 16:45:14 koen: the DEBUG_APPS ?= "" variable that you use in angstrom.conf, should that work for any distro or is it something specific to angstrom? Feb 08 16:46:34 koen, but your testing images don't have that problem, so I thought you might know what magic you employed ;) Feb 08 16:46:59 weird Feb 08 16:47:00 how can I get bb.setVar to append to an existing variable? Feb 08 16:47:13 if it's a problem with the kernel, psokolovsky is the one to ask Feb 08 16:47:14 koen, your testing images *do* have the problem (still) that the MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS is getting ignored (and it has nothing to do with a hyphen problem anymore) Feb 08 16:47:30 tkp: bb.getVar , Feb 08 16:47:37 . addition Feb 08 16:47:50 k Feb 08 16:48:10 probably apend in the wrong language there but get idea Feb 08 16:49:32 * koen__ stabs OSX vpn Feb 08 16:51:27 bye Feb 08 16:59:49 cu Feb 08 17:01:47 still grepping.... does anyone know by what process files get from image directories to install directories? Feb 08 17:01:55 what process is responsible for this? Feb 08 17:13:52 cbrake: when will your wiki be back up? Feb 08 17:19:38 used permissions to force a failure, movement from image to install is caused by task do_package, digging Feb 08 17:20:10 xumbi8: probably never -- what content are you interested in -- I'll move it to the main site. Feb 08 17:20:59 xumbi8: wikis are just too much work to maintain with spammers for as little as it was being used. Feb 08 17:21:01 cbrake: ah, well I just saw the "Porting the OpenEmbedded Linux distribution to the Intel PXA270 Reference Design" link and thought it might be relevant to what I'm doing Feb 08 17:21:15 cbrake: yeah I agree, luckily I've only used them internally Feb 08 17:22:10 xumbi8: that was pretty old -- I'm writing an intro to OE that will probably be more relevant. Feb 08 17:22:27 cbrake: ok great, good to know Feb 08 17:22:44 xumbi8: I'm sure you have seen the OE user manual -- docs like that are getting pretty decent. Feb 08 17:23:47 cbrake: yup I sure have, off and on for the last couple years actually, everything on the openembedded site is so much better now Feb 08 17:26:55 <_law_> psokolovsky: are you Paul Sokolovsky? Feb 08 17:27:15 _law_, Hi, yep ;-) Feb 08 17:27:33 <_law_> psokolovsky: hi, build some root image for my x51v Feb 08 17:27:39 cool Feb 08 17:27:53 <_law_> but i always get some NETDEV WATCHDOG: usb0: transmit timed out :-) Feb 08 17:27:56 <_law_> :-( Feb 08 17:28:04 <_law_> so no usb connection :-( Feb 08 17:28:44 <_law_> psokolovsky: any ideas? Feb 08 17:29:00 <_law_> i already use a small sd card Feb 08 17:29:16 _law_, well, something wrong. you get that on host side? Feb 08 17:29:23 <_law_> psokolovsky: yes Feb 08 17:29:39 _law_, well, then kernel likely hanged Feb 08 17:29:48 on pocket Feb 08 17:30:36 <_law_> psokolovsky: hmm have you got a serial cable? Feb 08 17:30:44 <_law_> so i?ll upload my files Feb 08 17:31:01 <_law_> or is there any other debugging solution? Feb 08 17:31:20 _law_, serial is the best, of course. Feb 08 17:31:38 _law_, do you have an idea that I don't have aximx50? ;-) Feb 08 17:31:57 <_law_> psokolovsky: you have no x50 ? Feb 08 17:32:47 _law_, no, I don't ;-). I'm just "generic" pocketpc kernel guy, who always around to help new ports ;-). I have h3900, h4000, hx4700, etc. here Feb 08 17:33:16 <_law_> psokolovsky: oh so it looks like i have to buy a serial cable... Feb 08 17:35:10 _law_, or fiddle with kernel config... it really helps to find bootable kernel with defconfig... Feb 08 17:35:35 <_law_> psokolovsky: could you tell me how i can set the ip via default.txt? is keepinitrd a good idea? Feb 08 17:36:39 _law_, I don't have keepinitrd on my command line Feb 08 17:37:23 <_law_> ok i?ll try to remove it. could you post me your commandline? where you boot you opie initrd.gz Feb 08 17:37:38 <_law_> root=/dev/ram0 ? Feb 08 17:39:29 _law_, pls join #handhelds.org, or we'll be kicked ;-) Feb 08 17:47:31 <_law_> psokolovsky: #handhelds.org? Feb 08 17:47:55 _law_, yep Feb 08 18:55:42 hey Feb 08 18:55:57 hi zecke Feb 08 18:56:45 zecke: btw, how did you manage to get numbers in the bitbake documentation? you use docbook right? did you create an own stylesheet? Feb 08 18:57:05 I mean.. numbers in the TOC Feb 08 18:57:06 :) Feb 08 18:57:07 Jin^eLD: kergoth and or pb_ created the initial documentation Feb 08 18:57:16 oh ok Feb 08 19:02:15 thanks hrw|gone and mickey|away now at least it boots! (all kinds of errors and still no fb support :( ) Feb 08 19:06:50 hi Feb 08 19:07:01 hey chouimat Feb 08 19:07:03 how goes it? Feb 08 19:07:29 kergoth: bad ... Feb 08 19:08:06 kergoth: hopefully it will be better soon (in a few weeks ...) Feb 08 19:08:14 :( Feb 08 19:08:27 whats up? no contract, or not a work problem? Feb 08 19:08:44 kergoth: therapy for depression :) Feb 08 19:08:50 ah Feb 08 19:09:13 my antidepressents ran out, had no medical benefits for a while... hopefully will be fixing that soon before i fuck anything up :P Feb 08 19:09:29 :} Feb 08 19:09:51 land warrior got killed Feb 08 19:10:04 only new opportunity at work isnt linux, its vxworks, which i have no real desire to learn Feb 08 19:10:07 :| Feb 08 19:10:11 greenhills windows toolchain = lame Feb 08 19:10:28 kergoth: I was on effexor ... didn't work well so now I'm therapy ... seems to work but today something make me remember all the shit I had to live with in high school that I was trying to not destroy stuff or cry ... Feb 08 19:10:50 kergoth: ouch Feb 08 19:11:25 kergoth: I'm learning Solaris and QNX (never know ) Feb 08 19:17:31 damn Feb 08 19:17:43 qnx isnt bad, i messed with it some when i was at digi, i was the main qnx support guy Feb 08 19:18:49 kergoth: applied for a job there Feb 08 19:18:55 qnx not digi Feb 08 19:19:11 cool Feb 08 19:19:25 i'm hoping i can find another position within the next couple days, so i dont have to start this vxworks work Feb 08 19:19:54 hehe ... Feb 08 19:22:12 kergoth: could be worse ... cool be winblows :) Feb 08 19:22:37 how do I tell the fetcher to check out only some specific parts in the svn trunk? Feb 08 19:23:00 Jin^eLD: svn co repo/trunk/directory you want Feb 08 19:23:10 but what it the module= param then? Feb 08 19:23:19 I mean in the .bb file Feb 08 19:23:36 kergoth: chouimat: take care Feb 08 19:23:38 is module always the last directory in the list? Feb 08 19:23:40 you too Feb 08 19:23:53 zecke: I will ... Feb 08 19:24:33 oh ok my problem was a different one.. it was looking for a specific revision that was not there, that why it was failing Feb 08 19:24:36 I thought I messed up the link Feb 08 19:24:37 heh.. Feb 08 19:24:39 never mind Feb 08 19:27:17 okay, later Feb 08 19:44:28 ~spell oppurtunity Feb 08 19:44:32 possible spellings for oppurtunity: opportunity opportunist opportunity's importunity opportunely opportune opportunities Feb 08 19:47:26 is there a variable for kernel sources directory in staging? Feb 08 19:47:50 STAGING_KERNEL_DIR iirc Feb 08 19:47:56 check conf/bitbake.conf Feb 08 19:48:34 oh yes, there it is Feb 08 19:48:34 thanks Feb 08 19:54:45 koen: the dir gets constructed incorrectly somehow.. it puts mipsel-linux in there but my kernel is in a different directory Feb 08 19:55:08 so it uses HOST_SYS Feb 08 19:55:15 let me figure out what var mine took Feb 08 19:56:09 looks like something that could be ${MACHINE}-linux Feb 08 19:57:12 multimachine.bbclass overrides it iirc Feb 08 19:57:44 I am using multimachine.. let me see.. Feb 08 19:58:06 indeed Feb 08 19:58:06 hmm Feb 08 19:58:10 why didnt it work then? hmm Feb 08 20:01:43 well thats being done: DEBUG: BB :0: inheriting classes/multimachine.bbclass Feb 08 20:01:58 so why is my kernel dir variable still wrong? hmm Feb 08 20:05:35 that is weird.. I put the exact line as in the multimachine.bbclass in my recipe Feb 08 20:05:41 tmp/openzaurus/work/arm-linux/eb-4.3-r0/install/eb/usr/share/eb/doc/ ends up in the plain package. How do I make sure the contents of that directory go into a doc package? Feb 08 20:05:44 the one that sets the kernel dir.. and its still wrong Feb 08 20:05:50 so my vars are messedup? heh Feb 08 20:06:59 Laibsch: by specifying FILES_${PN} properly for the main packages, or by putting the ${PN}-doc first in PACKAGES and adding ${datadir}/eb/ to FILES_${PN}-doc Feb 08 20:09:42 how do I specify that a particular .bb package is only for a specific machine? Feb 08 20:10:01 COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "yourmachine" Feb 08 20:10:12 thx Feb 08 20:10:59 but then in the multimachine build it should land in work/${MACHINE}-${TARGET_OS}, right? Feb 08 20:11:09 iirc, yes Feb 08 20:11:17 hmm.. it did not Feb 08 20:11:24 somethings is wrong with my stuff Feb 08 20:11:47 or with bitbake Feb 08 20:11:52 or with some other recipe Feb 08 20:12:07 I have bitbake 1.6.3 Feb 08 20:12:08 hey andersee Feb 08 20:13:16 koen: You mean ${datadir}/eb/usr/share/doc, not ${datadir}/eb/, right? Feb 08 20:13:39 no Feb 08 20:13:42 koen: howdy Feb 08 20:14:00 ${datadir} = ${D}/usr/share Feb 08 20:14:33 but yeah I meant ${datadir}/eb/doc Feb 08 20:14:49 koen: OK, thank you. I will try that for the next update to eb. Feb 08 20:14:56 * Laibsch makes note to self. Feb 08 20:15:14 andersee: how's life going on your side of the pond? Feb 08 20:16:30 koen: not too bad. Terribly terribly busy though... Feb 08 20:16:37 * koen knows the feeling Feb 08 20:17:40 andersee: hey, been a while Feb 08 20:17:41 hey koen Feb 08 20:18:06 kergoth: hey man, how you doin? Feb 08 20:18:12 kergoth: still burned out? Feb 08 20:18:19 hey kergoth Feb 08 20:18:28 kergoth: or have you recovered a bit? Feb 08 20:18:34 kernel-modules are still not building into my image, any ideas on how to debug this, tracing back what's wrong has been difficult Feb 08 20:18:37 * andersee is feeling very very burned out at the moment Feb 08 20:20:11 "but in this universe effect comes after cause. I've complained about it but..." Feb 08 20:20:12 print statements keep telling me modules.dep is not included, which I'm aware of, but why that is, is still a mystery Feb 08 20:20:15 * koen loves house Feb 08 20:20:38 * natezg prefers dr who Feb 08 20:20:51 andersee: recovered a bit. still not.. shall we say.. as enthusiastic, as i once was, but somewhat recovered, yes. sorry to hear that, burnout is not fun :( Feb 08 20:21:31 kergoth: indeed Feb 08 20:21:39 kergoth: all work and no play... Feb 08 20:22:28 * andersee imagines Jack Nicholson wielding an axe in the shining Feb 08 20:23:19 hehe Feb 08 20:23:29 kergoth: check these out http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/egr?query=linux Feb 08 20:23:51 specifically my IPAC9302ms-kernel-2.6.19-r1/install/kernel-modules/ is empty, any ideas about how to change that? Feb 08 20:24:19 I never run out of Linux System stuff in OC... Feb 08 20:24:46 hehe. i've kinda been avoiding moving out to cali.. never been there.. but it looks to be inevitable given the jobs there Feb 08 20:25:35 The manuf are here because of the taiwan china etc. connection Feb 08 20:26:46 I know what you mean, I have to move to the east coast and it's all mech engineers out there for some reason Feb 08 20:26:53 Linux, what's Linux? Feb 08 20:27:12 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r872186a5... 10/ (1 packages/eb packages/eb/eb_4.3.bb): eb: add eb, a lib for epwing electronic books in widespread use in Japan. Feb 08 20:27:18 (U.S east coast) Feb 08 20:28:14 I stay out of the East Coast because of just plain decay, used to work there Feb 08 20:28:32 decay?\ Feb 08 20:28:57 yes infrastructure decay Feb 08 20:28:57 * xumbi8 lives and works in NH ;) Feb 08 20:29:27 cost more to rebuild than start all over Feb 08 20:30:09 by the time west coast == East I will be long and gone Feb 08 20:31:35 natezg: Hey, what's wrong with mechanical engineers ?? :) Feb 08 20:32:24 * andersee is one Feb 08 20:32:27 and proud of it Feb 08 20:32:34 * hvontres|poodle too :) Feb 08 20:32:46 hvontres: software illiterates Feb 08 20:33:04 hvontres: cept you hvontres, your one of the good ones ;-) Feb 08 20:33:40 Laibsch: autotools_stage_all didn't work? Feb 08 20:33:47 (for eb) Feb 08 20:34:01 natezg: Well, I like to think of myself as more of a generic engineer with a mechaincal speciality... I know just enough about electronics and software to be REALLY dangerous :) Feb 08 20:34:11 No theres nothing wrong with them, I just wish there were more EE jobs over there all Feb 08 20:34:39 * koen is a bit dissappointed with pure EE job offers as well Feb 08 20:36:33 koen: you could always try going into Power stuff. At least over here there is plenty of demand for guys who know how to deal with power distribution and stuff... Feb 08 20:36:39 ok so... kernel-modules is a "metapackage" declared in the kernel class Feb 08 20:37:17 hvontres|poodle: sadly we don't have any power courses over here Feb 08 20:37:20 what's this do? : bb.data.setVar('FILES_' + metapkg, "", d) Feb 08 20:37:35 high power stuff isn't in big demand, so they don't teach it Feb 08 20:37:40 it's kind of like COBOL Feb 08 20:38:07 natezg: it creates a FILES_foo statement for an autogenerated package Feb 08 20:38:16 e.g. gnumeric-plugin-foo-chart Feb 08 20:42:03 hmm.. I have a library that uses autotools to compile, it did compile fine, ipk packages with .so files were created, everything as it should... but it did not get staged.. any idea why this may be happening? Feb 08 20:42:15 koen: I am not sure. I think I based my work off stuff from oz-ja and tweaked it until I got it to compile satisfactorily. Feb 08 20:42:57 Jin: check the .bbfile, it has to explicitly stage it Feb 08 20:43:08 pasteboard the bbfile? Feb 08 20:43:11 oh.. I thought it happens automatically Feb 08 20:43:29 that would take a lot of disk space? iono Feb 08 20:43:36 bb file has no do_stage() there.. I did not write it since I thought inheriting autotools would be neough Feb 08 20:43:43 no Feb 08 20:43:53 ok then it's clear.. thanks Feb 08 20:43:59 ;) Feb 08 20:44:17 :> Feb 08 20:46:02 koen: eb has been (like many other things) dozing away in my OE tree. There are quite many half-finished tasks here. It is nice to have one or the other reach a state ready for "release early and often" ;-) You keeping an open eye on things is certainly very much appreciated. Feb 08 20:46:38 eb was on my "has useless qtopia shit" list Feb 08 20:47:01 but you committed the regular version Feb 08 20:47:17 looks like I'll have to add a gtk+ based eb app to OE ;) Feb 08 20:48:01 It appears that kernel-modules relies on depmod ( high power stuff isn't in big demand, so they don't teach it Feb 08 20:48:01 it's kind of like COBOL Feb 08 20:48:08 sorry wrong paste Feb 08 20:48:31 as I was saying it looks like kernel-modules relies on depmod: module_deps = parse_depmod() Feb 08 20:49:16 and It seems to be broken in my build: sh: arm-linux-depmod-: command not found Feb 08 20:49:20 koen: Let's have a race ;-) Feb 08 20:50:28 looks like it's not finding the version for some reason: ./bin/arm-linux-depmod-2.6 Feb 08 20:50:42 but why..... any ideas appreciated....still digging Feb 08 20:50:47 does anyone have experience recompiling perl modules with openembedded for arm? Feb 08 20:50:58 such as creating the .bb files? Feb 08 20:51:27 question: I'm building LyX for oz akita, and when I build it, it tries to link against the libs in /usr/lib, giving error http://pastebin.ca/345807 Feb 08 20:51:31 thoguhts? Feb 08 20:52:34 koen: too bad.... just think of the fun you could have in a high-power lab course...( hmm what's this switch do... bzzzzzzt ) Feb 08 20:52:47 hvontres|poodle: :) Feb 08 20:52:56 "don't cross the beams" Feb 08 20:53:12 * hvontres|poodle imagnies prof. honeydew and beaker Feb 08 20:58:38 I can do that in my embedded systems lab, you don't need 10,000 Volts to make fire and death Feb 08 20:58:46 240 will do just fine Feb 08 20:59:30 and don't underestimate the joy of "wildly slapping robots" to quote my advisor Feb 08 21:01:27 ok so... it looks like my get_kernelversion call is failing in linux-kernel-base Feb 08 21:01:39 is there a way I can call this directly from the bb shell? Feb 08 21:01:43 for debugging? Feb 08 21:02:35 natezg: ahh yes...control problems with servos.... :) nothing like a little 180 degree phase shift at the wrong time :) Feb 08 21:02:57 * hvontres|poodle is there, doing that :) Feb 08 21:06:27 koen|away: I am not sure what you meant by do_stage_all. I put that into a do_stage directive but then staging would fail. I will leave the package as is for now. Feb 08 21:10:42 aha! KERNEL_VERSION = "${@get_kernelversion('${S}')}" Feb 08 21:10:59 this statement is only true if the kernel is build into the same directory as it's source Feb 08 21:11:10 which I happen to not be doing Feb 08 21:11:28 looking for another way.... Feb 08 21:12:20 does this make sense? KERNEL_VERSION = "${@get_kernelversion('${B}')}" ? Feb 08 21:12:30 I'm gonna see what it breaks.... Feb 08 21:12:41 Laibsch, you mean autotools_stage_all? Feb 08 21:13:39 Crofton__: You are right. My memory was incorrect. koen was talking about *autotools*-stage-all. How is that supposed to work? Feb 08 21:14:14 basically, it does "sensible" things to stage a package Feb 08 21:15:06 basically, it does "make install" into the staging area Feb 08 21:15:08 Crofton__: And for it to apply I need to have "do_stage () { autotools_stage_all }" in my bb file? Feb 08 21:15:13 yes Feb 08 21:15:25 OK, I will try it. Thanks, Crofton. Feb 08 21:15:33 Good luck Feb 08 21:15:45 it works for most autofoo based packages I think Feb 08 21:23:23 aaarg, but still:NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: Feb 08 21:23:23 NOTE: /lib/modules/2.6.20-rc7/modules.pcimap Feb 08 21:23:24 NOTE: /lib/modules/2.6.20-rc7/modules.dep Feb 08 21:23:40 is this a problem? Feb 08 21:23:48 yep Feb 08 21:28:22 my problem is that there is nothing in the kernel-modules directory, and I'm not getting any sort of error cluing me into why Feb 08 21:28:26 debugging Feb 08 21:44:20 http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_installation_scripts Feb 08 21:44:31 Access forbidden ?? Feb 08 22:03:39 koen|away, Crofton__: It seems that autotools_stage_all works as well. Feb 08 22:07:51 great! Feb 08 22:11:18 when I first start my ramdisk I get a long string of : Feb 08 22:11:21 Starting the hotplug events dispatcher udevd Feb 08 22:11:22 Synthesizing the initial hotplug events Feb 08 22:11:22 nbd0: Attempted send on closed socket Feb 08 22:11:22 end_request: I/O error, dev nbd0, sector 2 Feb 08 22:11:24 EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock Feb 08 22:11:24 nbd0: Attempted send on closed socket Feb 08 22:11:29 any idea what would cause that? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 09 03:00:00 2007