**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 09 03:00:00 2007 Feb 09 03:15:27 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra0121d55... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): slugos: backed out of using arm-kernel-shim instead of the cmdline hacks, cause arm-kernel-shim doesn't work on LE Feb 09 04:36:03 bye Feb 09 05:50:27 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4cf0f88f... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Reinstated the cmdline byteswap patch - required for LE. Feb 09 05:59:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb5e0b951... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: back out Florian's spurious GPEPHONE_MIRROR Feb 09 06:00:26 koen: how often do the angstrom feeds get updated (in particular, the ixp4xxle feed) ? Feb 09 06:02:34 rwhitby: everytime some uploads new/improved packages Feb 09 06:02:51 automatic, or manual? Feb 09 06:03:10 manual Feb 09 06:04:33 * koen heads to work Feb 09 07:04:05 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra6ac07d3... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Unbreak G(PE)^2 mirror Feb 09 07:04:09 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r1ced81b8... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/librecord_0.1.bb): librecord: Fix dependency Feb 09 07:04:13 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf4439dc9... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): glib: add 2.6.6 Feb 09 07:04:17 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf545cd45... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.14.bb): xserver-common: add 1.14 Feb 09 07:12:38 hi all Feb 09 07:19:34 rwhitby: linphone 1.6 stages broken la files Feb 09 07:19:49 hey florian Feb 09 07:20:12 Thomas Reitmayr wrote that .bb file (from http://www.devbase.at/voip/yeaphone.php) Feb 09 07:20:34 I'm happy to make any changes to it. Feb 09 07:20:49 I notice that you have a 1.5.0 in gpephone Feb 09 07:21:07 rwhitby: yes, it was a hard fight to make it work Feb 09 07:21:28 will 1.6.0 work with your same 1.5.0 .bb config? Feb 09 07:21:55 but i'm not sure if it is compatible with that patch - i'd need to take a look and maybe make different providers for it. Feb 09 07:22:02 i didn't try so far Feb 09 07:22:30 florian: my requirements for linphone are not great - I only added it so the yeaphone package could be built against it. Feb 09 07:23:38 and yeaphone only needs liblinphone and linphonec Feb 09 07:24:48 the 1.6.0 .bb seems to have a single reasonably small patch only Feb 09 07:25:25 morning all Feb 09 07:25:34 oh right - we should split it up into separate packages - we need the library only Feb 09 07:26:35 hi Ifaistos Feb 09 07:26:56 florian: the 1.6.0 bb already splits it into separate packages: linphone, linphonec, linphone-rings, liblinphone, libquickstream, libmediastreamer, libortp, linphone-dev Feb 09 07:27:44 rwhitby : Any input on how yeaphone performs in "daily" use ? Feb 09 07:28:02 Ifaistos: see http://www.devbase.at/voip/yeaphone.php Feb 09 07:28:47 I have got it to connect so far, but I need to do some work on my network here (at work) to forward ports, and we already have VoIP so it's not an easy modification to the port forwarding. Feb 09 07:29:52 florian: the configure settings between your 1.5.0 and the 1.6.0 look reasonably compatible. Feb 09 07:30:12 rwhitby : i have read that. what i am interested on comments is the last sentence -> Possible interruptions of calls at high network or CPU loads, eg. when massivly accessing connected harddrives or other installed services while being on the phone Feb 09 07:30:35 how "massivly" is defined :) Feb 09 07:31:00 i.e streaming a movie ? Feb 09 07:31:02 simple fix - don't attach a hard disk to the slug :-) Feb 09 07:31:10 :) Feb 09 07:31:20 Ifaistos: dunno - I'd suggest you contact Thomas directly. Feb 09 07:31:53 i think it time to get the slug out of my closet and test it :) Feb 09 07:45:51 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r695d9d0d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Enabled 11-mtdpart-redboot-config-byteswap.patch for 2.6.20 kernel Feb 09 07:53:14 hi Feb 09 07:56:56 rwhitby: ok good... but maybe not the patch Feb 09 07:57:17 florian: what's wrong with the patch? Feb 09 07:57:49 rwhitby: it might break compatibility with upstream linphone Feb 09 07:59:24 florian: my understanding of that patch is that it simply records the current state, so that it can be queried by yeaphone and other applications that use the library. Feb 09 08:03:05 florian: it's that patch which allows yeaphone to display the current state on the LCD of the USB phone. Feb 09 08:03:28 (which is pretty important when you have no other console on an NSLU2) Feb 09 08:03:30 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r80e6c1f2... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/linphone_1.5.0.bb): linphone: Work around build problem... and yes it matters... Feb 09 08:15:20 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra557b4a5... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/gpe-session-scripts-phone_0.67.bb): gpe-session-scripts-phone: Fix install on x86 builds. Feb 09 08:21:52 morning Feb 09 08:22:23 I just can't get gpe-image for ep93xx to build. Always fails on libxp-X11R7.0-1.0.0-r0 Feb 09 08:22:57 Dies on mv: cannot stat `libXp.so.6.2.0': No such file or directory Feb 09 08:23:02 Any hint? Feb 09 08:30:32 CM: wierd Feb 09 08:57:37 XorA: I've tried to remove my whole tmp folder in case it was something old laying around, but it didn't help Feb 09 08:57:45 Log here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~cm/log.do_stage.20515 Feb 09 08:58:31 CM: Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect. Feb 09 08:59:00 Hmm.. Feb 09 08:59:28 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r43465726... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): avahi: add 0.6.17, move do_stage and FILES_avahi-autoipd to avahi.inc Feb 09 08:59:36 CM: my guess is the Makefile is using mv when it should be using install Feb 09 09:00:33 Ok, thanks for the hint. I'll look around some, even if I don't have a clue what to do ;) Feb 09 09:20:23 morning folks Feb 09 09:23:39 ade|desk : hi ! Feb 09 09:39:04 <__law__> ot: does anyone know how i can extract attachment to a file via procmail ? Feb 09 09:39:15 <__law__> or is ther any better solution? Feb 09 09:44:50 hi mickeyl Feb 09 09:44:54 good morning pb_ Feb 09 09:45:14 hi mickeyl Feb 09 09:45:35 cheers hrw Feb 09 09:45:37 how's working? Feb 09 09:45:49 mickeyl: fine Feb 09 09:45:56 __law__: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-August/056067.html Feb 09 09:46:39 mickeyl: last.fm play, jabber works, svn works - looks ok Feb 09 09:46:52 cool Feb 09 09:47:10 * mickeyl just started preparing his share of the OpenMoko presentation Feb 09 09:47:19 afterwards, going to work on the OE backup presentation Feb 09 09:47:27 today is powerpoint day *cough* Feb 09 09:47:36 mickeyl: need second GB ram, more storage and better chair - but this has to wait a bit Feb 09 09:47:54 hrw: if i were to recommend a chair... i'd recommend Feb 09 09:48:06 http://www.hermanmiller.com/aeron/ Feb 09 09:48:16 i'm sitting on one of those beasts atm. Feb 09 09:48:17 <__law__> rw, thanks i already use this, but i only extracts base64 encoded attachments Feb 09 09:48:19 it's a hell of a chair Feb 09 09:48:24 but pretty expensive :/ Feb 09 09:48:38 <__law__> rw, i get plain text attachments... Feb 09 09:50:14 mickeyl: OH guys also proposed aerons Feb 09 09:50:37 really? Feb 09 09:50:38 cool Feb 09 09:50:46 i knew they have a taste Feb 09 09:50:46 :) Feb 09 09:51:01 and mirra Feb 09 09:51:47 the best thing is dynamc sitting Feb 09 09:51:54 changing chairs regularly Feb 09 09:51:58 my 2nd chair is a swopper Feb 09 09:52:07 very good for strengthening the back musles Feb 09 09:52:12 ~spell musles Feb 09 09:52:15 possible spellings for musles: mussels muscles measles mules muses muzzles musses missiles mussel's muscle's Mosul's morsels Miles Muse's Myles males miles mouses muesli's mule's muzzle's Mses Muslims mousses Mosley's missile's Moses moles moses mulls Male's Meuse's Mile's mile's mouse's morsel's Muller's mousse's Moseley's Moselle's measles's Mlle's Mose's mole's ... Feb 09 09:52:18 ~spell muscles Feb 09 09:52:20 'muscles' may be spelled correctly Feb 09 09:52:23 here we go Feb 09 09:52:55 mickeyl: How expensive are we talking? Feb 09 09:53:19 I get a bit worried when all pages say "contact us for price information" Feb 09 09:53:24 hehe Feb 09 09:53:25 true Feb 09 09:53:33 iirc my herman miller was like 1500 DM Feb 09 09:53:37 roughly 700 EUR Feb 09 09:53:50 That's ok for a good chair :) Feb 09 09:53:59 that's 5 years ago though Feb 09 09:54:05 may be more pricey nowadays Feb 09 09:54:07 You can pay 300 EUR for a crappy one too Feb 09 09:54:43 right Feb 09 09:54:56 if there is one thing you shouldn't try to save money it's on office furniture and stuff Feb 09 09:55:10 it's good for your health if you sit a lot during the day Feb 09 09:55:25 + if the chair is good Feb 09 09:55:55 jez.. polish distributor of herman miller has website made by 3 years old child Feb 09 09:56:30 no info about price, no galleries nothing Feb 09 10:13:33 ~hail kdesvn + kompare Feb 09 10:13:44 * ibot bows down to kdesvn + kompare and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Feb 09 10:36:10 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rd1bfc07a... 10/ (1 conf/machine/efika.conf): efika.conf: Add console Feb 09 10:36:14 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * re4bd586b... 10/ (1 site/powerpc-linux site/powerpc-linux-uclibc): Feb 09 10:36:14 site/powepc-linux:Add ac_cv_sizeof_int_p Feb 09 10:36:14 closes bug #1859 Feb 09 10:36:57 Ifaistos, serial console login on efika now? Feb 09 10:37:09 yep :) Feb 09 10:37:27 angstrom-gpe-image also compiles Feb 09 10:37:57 thanks :) Feb 09 10:38:24 but my card is not an ati so can't testit for the moment. xserver fails during load Feb 09 10:38:42 I don't even have a video card for mine :) Feb 09 10:40:06 hrw: your blog on cold weather amused me :-) Feb 09 10:41:12 * Crofton is sick of cold weather Feb 09 10:41:51 XorA: why? Feb 09 10:42:04 hrw: its wierd in UK, every year we get about a week of snow, every year they treat it like a national disaster Feb 09 10:42:18 hrw: youd think after 4 million years they would be used to it Feb 09 10:42:27 XorA: I know - we had long discussion about it Feb 09 10:42:43 we are much more organised in Scotland Feb 09 11:34:55 crofton : What's the boot line you are using for nfs mount ? or are you booting from hd ? Feb 09 11:36:39 someone has recipe for ifrename? Feb 09 11:37:09 I am booting from hd now Feb 09 11:37:18 don't remember exact line for nfs root boot Feb 09 12:02:37 hi cbrake Laibsch Feb 09 12:02:53 howdy! Feb 09 12:03:44 hrw: good morning Feb 09 12:16:04 someone has recipe for ifrename? Feb 09 12:54:09 morning Feb 09 12:54:16 Mornin Feb 09 12:58:30 koen morning Feb 09 13:01:53 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r58a097d9... 10/ (1 packages/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_29-pre10.bb): wireless-tools: package also ifrename Feb 09 13:02:15 this update also package headers for libiw Feb 09 13:05:17 cu Feb 09 13:23:39 hrw|gone: http://www.advogato.org/person/svu/diary.html?start=82 Feb 09 13:29:17 ~lart people adding recipes where the sources dont exist Feb 09 13:29:18 * ibot chops people adding recipes where the sources dont exist in half with a free Solaris 7 CD Feb 09 13:30:25 who feels authoritised to dissaprove xserver-common 1.14 .bb :-) Feb 09 13:41:56 disapproving might be a bit harsh Feb 09 13:42:04 lowering DEFAULT_PREFERENCE should work as well? Feb 09 13:45:30 mickeyl: Ill do that Feb 09 13:47:56 re Feb 09 13:48:00 CM: I do not have n800 Feb 09 13:48:32 Ah, sorry. But I remember you wanted radio. :) Feb 09 13:49:01 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r17c19e11... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.14.bb): Feb 09 13:49:01 xserver-common_1.14.bb : DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = -1 as source isnt Feb 09 13:49:01 available yet Feb 09 14:07:50 Ah, the joy of netsplit Feb 09 14:12:07 I have a question about how the perl ipk is generated... Feb 09 14:13:27 for example, I'd like to include POSIX.pm (along with many other .pm's) in the ipk, I see that POSIX.pm is being compiled and shows up under /work/armv5te-linux/perl-5.8.7-r21/install/perl-module-posix/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/arm-linux/ Feb 09 14:14:46 how do I get it included in the ipk that gets generated? I've been looking through perl_5.8.7.bb, perl-rdepends_5.8.7.inc and perl.inc but nothing seems obvious Feb 09 14:19:58 perl package each module into separate package Feb 09 14:21:23 hrw: ok that makes sense, is that as easy as doing something like 'bitbake perl-module-posix'? Feb 09 14:21:47 hrw: sorry, I'm still getting my feet wet with oe, this is only my 3rd day :) Feb 09 14:25:18 hi, all! Feb 09 14:25:23 lrg, ping Feb 09 14:27:34 hey slapin_nb Feb 09 14:28:48 lrg, do you have any suggestions on fixing bus type registration stuff? Feb 09 14:29:06 xumbi8: bitbake perl Feb 09 14:29:21 lrg, I'm still not sure that registering it in my module is a good thing... Feb 09 14:29:31 xumbi8: bitbake operate on recipes rather then packages Feb 09 14:31:37 hrw: a-ha! I see now that perl-module-posix_5.8.7-r21_armv5te.ipk is under tmp/deploy/ipk, awesome Feb 09 14:32:08 now I just need to figure out how to get these ipks installed into my root file system when I do 'bitbake bootstrap-image'... Feb 09 14:32:16 slapin_nb: you may need to hack it atm as I'm very busy working on other stuff atm. Sorry. Feb 09 14:32:35 hrw: thanks for the help Feb 09 14:32:59 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r70e8c209... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): lighttpd: provide proper init script and config (from poky) Feb 09 14:37:39 ~seen zecke Feb 09 14:38:07 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 19h 10m 48s ago, saying: 'okay, later'. Feb 09 14:38:40 Feb 9 16:13:02 progear daemon.info gpe-dm: gpe-dm: session pid 1845 exited with status 1 Feb 09 14:38:46 someone familiar with it? Feb 09 14:46:28 that message? it just means what it says, really. Feb 09 14:52:28 pb__: I meant rather - does someone know fix for gpe-dm restarting? Feb 09 14:53:06 that sounds like a distribution problem. I guess you should take it up with #angstrom or whatever. Feb 09 14:53:24 k. Feb 09 14:53:34 there isn't really any general solution for that problem, it just means your session scripts are broken Feb 09 14:58:04 btw, I have got the same problem when selecting Russian language in GPE. Feb 09 14:58:14 distro is angstrom Feb 09 15:05:00 does BBFILES determine which packages get built, or just where to find them? Feb 09 15:12:32 xumbi8: some notes on adding packages to an image: http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/59/9/ Feb 09 15:13:05 bradbev: where to find them Feb 09 15:13:16 cbrake: thanks, yeah I'd been following that, good article Feb 09 15:13:28 xumbi8: thanks. Feb 09 15:13:29 hrw, thanks. Feb 09 15:13:54 cbrake: what I didn't realize was that DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS could be passed ipks from tmp/deploy/ipk Feb 09 15:14:10 xumbi8: you can also create a custom image that DEPENDS on the packages you want. Feb 09 15:14:27 cbrake: I thought anything passed to DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS had to be a .bb file Feb 09 15:14:44 xumbi8: right RDEPENDS -> ipk files (run time), DEPENDS -> bb file (build time) Feb 09 15:14:54 re Feb 09 15:15:25 cbrake: one thing that's weird though, I added libexpat1 to my DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS, and bibtake bootstrap-image fails, even though the ipk exists Feb 09 15:15:45 cbrake: whereas adding libxml2 to DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS works fine Feb 09 15:16:34 * cbrake looks at his build dir ... Feb 09 15:17:01 RDEPENDS also takes 'recipe' names Feb 09 15:17:10 OE will automagically change them to package names Feb 09 15:17:31 koen: when someone says 'recipe' they mean .bb file right? Feb 09 15:18:02 koen: hi, do you know if zecke come into this chat today? Feb 09 15:18:07 koen: It doesn't take reciepe names, it takes package names Feb 09 15:18:54 xumbi8: I'm not sure offhand why libexpat1 would be failing -- I'll try to ipkg install it here on my system. Feb 09 15:18:56 It can handle conversions between PACKAGES and any package renaming by classes like debian.bbclass Feb 09 15:19:17 cbrake: that's great, I appreciate it Feb 09 15:19:45 xumbi8: yes, it works: root@compulab-pxa270:~$ ipkg install libexpat1 Feb 09 15:19:47 Package libexpat1 (2.0.0-r2) installed in root is up to date. Feb 09 15:20:06 xumbi8: so, including it DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS should work. Feb 09 15:20:24 cbrake: unfortunately it's not working for me, I'll get the error... Feb 09 15:21:24 right now my DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS has "cherokee libexpat1 libxml2 openssh ppp perl-module-cpan perl-module-posix ppp" Feb 09 15:23:28 * xumbi8 is running 'bitbake task-base -crebuild' ... Feb 09 15:24:10 change 'libexpat1' to 'expat' Feb 09 15:24:32 koen: ok, I'll try it... Feb 09 15:29:31 cu Feb 09 15:33:20 koen: adding expat worked! thanks! Feb 09 15:35:27 good morning! Feb 09 15:35:36 my kernel problems are fixed and jffs2 is booting Feb 09 15:35:49 a little weirdnes though Feb 09 15:35:57 kobject_add failed for physmap-flash.0 with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same dir Feb 09 15:36:03 ever seen that before? Feb 09 15:36:38 also, my bootstrap-image doesn't automatically "ifup eth0" is this the desired behavior? Feb 09 15:37:07 natezg: yes that is default -- modify /etc/network/interfaces if you want it to come up on boot. Feb 09 15:49:23 crofton : X booted with efika :) Feb 09 15:49:56 crofton : need to add a mouse now... Feb 09 15:50:33 did anyone get DRI/DRM working on the efika yet? Feb 09 15:50:47 I remember something about some ghastly agp-over-pci design Feb 09 15:50:52 koen: no but that reminds me I have a question for you Feb 09 15:51:30 koen:last night I discovered the reason my modules were all messed up was because OE wasn't correctly retrieving my kernel version Feb 09 15:51:30 shoot Feb 09 15:51:37 ah Feb 09 15:51:49 koen:which in turn prevented depmod from running correctly Feb 09 15:51:58 something changed recently Feb 09 15:52:12 we used to have KERNEL_VERSION of KERNEL_RELEASE for that Feb 09 15:52:24 RP should be able to tell you what to use :) Feb 09 15:53:16 koen: well I found the problem actually Feb 09 15:53:26 koen:it's in the kernel class Feb 09 15:53:45 * natezg goes through his notes to find it exactly Feb 09 15:55:01 this is it: KERNEL_VERSION = "${@get_kernelversion('${S}')}" Feb 09 15:55:24 in kernel.bbclass Feb 09 15:55:48 This works for most setups because they build the kernel within it's source directory Feb 09 15:56:12 hmmm any idea how it will not ask to calibrate the screen ? it looks like its expection input from a touch screen. mouse does not seem to work Feb 09 15:56:15 technically, however, the version.h doesn't exist there until the kernel is built Feb 09 15:56:35 I changed this to KERNEL_VERSION = "${@get_kernelversion('${B}')}" in my local copy Feb 09 15:56:57 my question is, is this correct always, should this be moved into the main distribution? Feb 09 16:01:04 koen : How to skip over screen calibration ? Feb 09 16:04:21 hmm why does lirc depend on X11? Feb 09 16:11:27 interesting http://bhhdoa.org.au/pipermail/ck/2007-February/006612.html Feb 09 16:28:37 I want to pull in a couple of binary files from my local machine, and put them somewhere in the generated rootfs. Is there a bbclass already defined that I should inherit from? Feb 09 16:28:40 chouimat:interesting for my desktop Feb 09 16:29:03 don't think it would have much use on my arm though Feb 09 16:29:41 natezg: true but it's interesting ... but I can see some application on arm or embedded ppc (pda etc) Feb 09 16:30:04 "appropriate" cpu latency is getting less and less acceptable in industrial control Feb 09 16:30:15 but for PDA's perhaps.... Feb 09 16:31:18 natezg: I have a customer who have a laptop, a de3sktop and a pda and currently his critical applications are on the pda ... I doubt he used his laptop on the road more than 10 times last year :) Feb 09 16:32:26 xserver-common-1.14 does not seem to be available at the specified reps for angstrom Feb 09 16:34:26 -> http://www.pastebin.ca/347723 Feb 09 16:34:45 Hello Feb 09 16:34:57 hello Feb 09 16:53:53 cbrake: ping? Feb 09 16:57:30 xumbi8: yes Feb 09 16:59:18 cbrake: if you get a chance, just wondering if libxml-parser-perl or libxml-libxml-common-perl compile for you Feb 09 16:59:26 cbrake: both fail for me Feb 09 17:01:36 cbrake: I even created a separate instance of my OE environment and they still failed, I'm guessing it's a bug Feb 09 17:04:08 xumbi8: I'll try now ... Feb 09 17:05:11 cbrake: ok thanks, much appreciated Feb 09 17:07:33 koen: would like to bump matchbox-keyboard SRCDATE to 20060725. reason: contains fixed russian layout Feb 09 17:20:35 re Feb 09 17:20:43 hrw|tv: Hello Feb 09 17:20:58 hi Feb 09 17:35:30 sirfred: will you be at fosdem? Feb 09 17:35:42 hrw|tv: no Feb 09 17:37:04 I go Feb 09 17:37:05 cu Feb 09 17:45:51 Packaged contents of gsnes9x into /home/mteira/oeroot/build/tmp/deploy/ipk/gsnes9x_4.0-r0_armv5te.ipk Feb 09 17:46:04 My first package (snif) Feb 09 17:47:28 psokolovsky_: sure, go ahead Feb 09 17:48:23 koen, ok, thanks Feb 09 17:49:07 sirfred: any news on ximageon? Feb 09 17:49:33 koen: No. I was porting gsnes9x while waiting for RP to make some changes in the w100fb side Feb 09 17:50:09 RP: Any new about that ? Feb 09 17:50:35 sirfred: do those w100fb changes fix Ximageon on w3220? Feb 09 17:50:43 koen: Probably yes. Feb 09 17:50:49 cool Feb 09 17:50:59 koen: With no XV support, but mode change is what is breaking it, I guess Feb 09 17:51:18 sirfred: do you need a w100fb patch from RP? maybe I can help Feb 09 17:51:23 hey koen Feb 09 17:51:45 mreimer_: It's something related with honouring the rotate flag in the fb ops Feb 09 17:51:55 hey mreimer_ Feb 09 17:52:18 mreimer_: That way, we could implement randr without having to touch things that are better in kernel Feb 09 17:52:21 sirfred: I sent RP a patch to get the var->rot flag initialized correctly. Is that it? Feb 09 17:52:39 mreimer_: I remember, you sent the patch to me and RP Feb 09 17:52:46 sirfred: sounds like a bit more work than what I sent Feb 09 17:52:55 mreimer_: Yes, two more things. Feb 09 17:53:06 mreimer_: One is that it also has to honour it in mode changes. Feb 09 17:53:36 sirfred: by "mode changes" do you mean changes in resolution, rotation? Feb 09 17:53:37 mreimer_: And the other thing is that we want sysfs node to avoid the external memory to be switched off when changng to 320x240 modes Feb 09 17:53:47 mreimer_: It would be the same. Feb 09 17:54:05 mreimer_: If the rotate flag is honoured, we only need to make a fb mode change. Feb 09 17:54:19 sirfred: that would keep things clean Feb 09 17:54:42 mreimer_: I think so, and code in Ximageon to make those dirty things will disappear Feb 09 17:54:54 mreimer_: Allowing (probably) that part to work in w3220 Feb 09 17:55:09 sirfred: I won't argue against that :-) Feb 09 17:55:11 Is there any way to make gpe show new *.desktop apps ? Feb 09 17:55:32 I've just installed a new .desktop file, but it doesn't show automatically. I need to kill something,I bet Feb 09 17:55:39 sirfred: matchbox desktop monitors /usr/share/applications Feb 09 17:55:53 it picks up valid .desktop files automagically Feb 09 17:55:58 using dnotify iirc Feb 09 17:56:10 Cool. Perhaps there's something bad with my .desktop Feb 09 17:56:39 It misses Categories entry Feb 09 17:56:45 Perhaps that's the problem Feb 09 17:58:20 It doesn't work. even adding the Categories section Feb 09 17:59:02 Going to restart gpe Feb 09 17:59:16 tried modifying an existing .desktop? Feb 09 17:59:32 sirfred: fwiw, it's matchbox, not gpe that displays the icons Feb 09 17:59:44 koen: Yes. Feb 09 17:59:54 koen: Well, it's easier to kill the whole thing Feb 09 18:00:16 It seems the problem is the desktop file. Feb 09 18:00:23 After restart, it doesn't show Feb 09 18:02:37 I'm blind. Was missing Type=Application Feb 09 18:03:47 Buf, it works, but the widgets need a lot of adjustment. Feb 09 18:04:31 sirfred: what's the blocker with xv on w3220? Feb 09 18:04:38 different registers? Feb 09 18:04:41 koen: It seems it works totally different. Feb 09 18:04:56 koen: Not sure, it doesn't rotate the same way Feb 09 18:05:36 koen: As the overlay surfaces are in the original orientation of the screen, we need, at least in the zaurus clamshells, to rotate them Feb 09 18:06:10 koen: So, the xv driver uses ENG_CNTL register and friends to perform rotation. It doesn't work in w3220 Feb 09 18:07:24 It seems that these GtkFileChooserButton are not appropiate. Is there any similar widget in gpe ? Feb 09 18:18:30 Koen: I sent mail to the mailing list for fosdem but I think the mail still needs to be approved Feb 09 18:18:55 you need to be subscribed Feb 09 18:19:01 subscribe and send again please Feb 09 18:19:34 Koen : okay Feb 09 18:21:30 gerwinin, there is some confusion over when we can set up the booth Feb 09 18:22:10 Mickey has an email saying 1400, but the guys in #fosdem said earlier since some of the talks start earlier Feb 09 18:23:33 speaking of .desktop issues, I installed bluez-gnome so I could enter a PIN for my bluetooth headset and bluetooth-applet installs a non-matchbox .desktop file Feb 09 18:24:12 apaulsen: and it lacks a proper (panel) icon and launcher Feb 09 18:24:28 I was just going to add that Feb 09 18:24:54 yes, I had to install the hicolor icon theme and a gigantic gnome icons pack to get the icon to work Feb 09 18:25:57 I have it running with an icon now and it seems to work, but I can't figure out how to make it start automatically Feb 09 18:26:51 Crofton: let me check with chris or Mickely Feb 09 18:26:53 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r710640a6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Feb 09 18:26:53 xserver-common 1.13: Add patch to skip touchscreen calibration if there's no TS. Feb 09 18:26:53 * Fixes GPE startup on TS-less machines like efika, qemu-arm, x86, lots of others. Feb 09 18:27:02 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rab8e766d... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.13.bb): xserver-common 1.13: Re-add calibrate-only-if-ts.patch after merge. Feb 09 18:27:04 Ifaistos, ok, fix to not calibrate mouse committed Feb 09 18:30:10 I can launch bluetooth-applet from the launch bar (or whatever that bar is called at the bottom of the screen), like the other GPE utilities, but it does not start automatically after a reboot like other applets do Feb 09 18:30:50 sirfred: http://frodo.vpop.net/~mreimer/w3220_regs.txt Feb 09 18:31:12 sirfred: looks like mmENG_CNTL is 0x0401 Feb 09 18:31:30 <_sirfred> mreimer_: The value, you mean? Feb 09 18:31:36 yes Feb 09 18:31:39 sirfred: yes Feb 09 18:31:44 <_sirfred> mreimer_: Let's see if that makes sense... Feb 09 18:31:52 bit 10 isn't documented Feb 09 18:32:57 <_sirfred> Looking at the register, only the 13 lower bits are documented, if I read correctly Feb 09 18:33:54 _sirfred: that's what I see too. bit 10 is in that unnamed six-bit area Feb 09 18:34:02 <_sirfred> And yes, bit 10 is in a "hole" Feb 09 18:34:55 I don't know any usage example for the w3220 Feb 09 18:35:55 Only, perhaps in the tcpmp player Feb 09 18:36:21 sirfred: I emailed the tcpmp author to ask for source code but I haven't heard back from him Feb 09 18:36:28 No, the code there is for an ati4200, and there's no mention of that register. Feb 09 18:36:45 mreimer_: The interesting thing about that is that they are using iDCT Feb 09 18:37:07 mreimer_: But I don't think that will be microcode compatible Feb 09 18:37:12 sirfred: too bad Feb 09 18:37:50 mreimer_: Well, it could be tested Feb 09 18:38:39 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r43c6d046... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): Feb 09 18:38:39 sane-srcdates.inc: Bump SRCDATE_matchbox-keyboard to "20060725", to this date Feb 09 18:38:39 Russian keyboard layout, broken previously, was fixed. Feb 09 18:38:43 mreimer_: Well, another way to guess ENG_CNTL usage would be to look at the ACE_DDI.DLL Feb 09 18:39:15 mreimer_: The bad thing is that everything is done with microcode in that library, but a lot of times, it's possible to guess what register are they trying to feed. Feb 09 18:39:30 sirfred: so I need to copy that dll out of ppc? Feb 09 18:39:34 psokolovsky_: thanks will try now and let you know Feb 09 18:40:02 mreimer_: I have one here, I can send it to you. Feb 09 18:40:15 sirfred: please do Feb 09 18:40:23 sirfred: is it the one for hx4700? Feb 09 18:40:27 is there a different Bluetooth pin agent that people are using instead of the Bluez-gnome bluetooth-applet? Feb 09 18:40:30 mreimer_: Not sure. Feb 09 18:41:23 mreimer_: email? Feb 09 18:41:44 sirfred: mreimer - vpop.net Feb 09 18:44:25 mreimer_: Sent Feb 09 18:44:32 sirfred: thanks Feb 09 18:45:16 It seems that the snes9x version is a little old. The fronted I've ported is setting options this snes9x port doesn't understand Feb 09 18:45:42 I'm starting to thing that this snes-sdl is not an official version Feb 09 18:45:48 s/snes-sdl/snes9x-sdl/ Feb 09 18:47:45 xumbi8: http://pastebin.ca/347850 Feb 09 19:01:07 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r92644cae... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Feb 09 19:01:07 matchbox-keyboard svn: Add patches to make it work decent on QVGA devices. Feb 09 19:01:07 * Note: these patched don't affect other devices, as being applied to Feb 09 19:01:07 matchnox-keyboard's own "smallscreen" handling paths (smallscreen defined as Feb 09 19:01:07 having width/height <=320). Feb 09 19:03:05 How can I say in a recipe that a package .tar is decompressed in package-${PV}-src and not package-${PV} ? Feb 09 19:05:46 cbrake: sorry, just got back Feb 09 19:06:30 cbrake: I think my error is similar, let me see if I can get it... Feb 09 19:13:32 sirfred: ${S} = "${WORKDIR}/${P}-src" Feb 09 19:13:47 koen: Thanks, I found it after grepping a little some .bb Feb 09 19:17:44 Is there any widget in libgpewidget providing the same functionality than GtkFileChooserButton? Feb 09 19:18:10 More or less the same, but launching a file selector more suitable for gpe, the same I use to see in gpe apps Feb 09 19:18:48 there certainly is a file selector in libgpewidget, but I don't think it's api compatible with the Gtk one. Feb 09 19:19:49 pb_: I'm looking for something like a button showing the name of the selected file that launch a file selector when clicked Feb 09 19:20:24 I don't think there's a widget like that, but it'd be pretty trivial to make one. Feb 09 19:20:50 pb_: Yes, just a button and a callback to launch the file selector Feb 09 19:21:00 right Feb 09 19:21:06 cbrake: here is mine http://pastebin.ca/347896 Feb 09 19:24:00 psokolovsky_: works great ! Feb 09 19:24:52 koen : Angstrom works ok with efika :) Feb 09 19:25:10 Ifaistos: cool Feb 09 19:25:17 xumbi8: interesting -- looks like your build made it a lot further than mine. Feb 09 19:25:51 cbrake: strange Feb 09 19:26:08 xumbi8: I'm building on AMD64 -- you 32 or 64 bit? Feb 09 19:26:38 Ifaistos, wonderful! Feb 09 19:26:55 cbrake: P4, 32 bit Feb 09 19:27:13 koen : what's the easiest way to capture a few screenshots ? I have only mouse no keyboard Feb 09 19:27:49 ipkg install gpe-scap fbgrab Feb 09 19:27:49 xumbi8: nod, I'm not doubt seeing an issue that occurs when building on 64 bit systems -- many packages have been scrubbed for 64 bit issues. Feb 09 19:27:56 *no doubt Feb 09 19:30:10 cbrake: ah, I think I'll stay away from 64 bit then ;) Feb 09 19:30:33 cbrake: thanks for trying the build, do bugs usually get submitted when builds fail? Feb 09 19:35:47 koen : what other apps you think i should try and build to test compatibility ? Feb 09 19:36:04 firefox? Feb 09 19:36:05 koen : trying firefox as we spped Feb 09 19:36:19 :) Feb 09 19:36:48 if you send me your dsa pubkey you can upload the packages as well :) Feb 09 19:37:16 yep. forgot about it. will do now Feb 09 19:37:17 xumbi8: yes, you can post to bugzilla Feb 09 19:38:00 xumbi8: 64 bit works for most things -- it gets pretty good coverage on OE these days. Feb 09 19:43:27 the only thing now that fails on amd64 is binary locale generation Feb 09 19:43:32 AFAIK Feb 09 19:43:36 otherwise Id fix it Feb 09 19:43:42 cbrake: ok I'll probably post a bug when I get a chance, thanks again Feb 09 19:53:33 woglinde: hi :) - do you still own a simpad? i have written a 2.6 switches driver for it and need a person that will test it Feb 09 19:54:53 koen : you got mail :) Feb 09 19:56:16 hi mr_nice hm ask me in 2 weeks Feb 09 19:56:22 when I have holidays Feb 09 19:56:52 ok Feb 09 20:09:59 Ifaistos: you've got mail as well :) Feb 09 20:19:18 firefox does not seem to like icecc :( Feb 09 20:19:39 ifaistos hm I think thats nothing new Feb 09 20:35:20 * koen wtfs Feb 09 20:35:57 click here for more info Feb 09 20:36:09 * koen wonders who's in charge of that website Feb 09 20:36:19 koen *g* Feb 09 20:36:54 it wouldn't be so bad if it weren't a goverment website Feb 09 20:37:57 to make it worse, it's the info link for a position where they desperately want new people Feb 09 20:38:01 koen most govermentsides are in a bad mood Feb 09 20:38:32 germans petition service runs at a univeristy on scottland Feb 09 20:39:07 and they cant handle more than 40k entries Feb 09 20:39:30 anyone know how I could change the fan speed on a vaio desktop? Feb 09 20:40:46 punktrash in the bios? sorry for the joke Feb 09 20:44:31 anybody knows what could cause this? ERROR: function do_configure failed Feb 09 20:44:31 ERROR: log data follows (/home/fille/oe/build/tmp/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux/libgpelaunch-svn-r0/temp/log.do_configure.31377) Feb 09 20:44:34 | /home/fille/oe/build/tmp/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux/libgpelaunch-svn-r0/temp/run.do_configure.31377: line 535: syntax error near unexpected token `else' Feb 09 20:47:12 line 535: syntax error near unexpected token `else' Feb 09 20:48:27 woglinde: well that is in an OE generated file.... Feb 09 20:50:00 hm than blame autotools or a patch the patches the .am or .in files Feb 09 20:52:28 have a look at line 535 Feb 09 20:54:08 koen: well that's just it. It is a huge OE generated thing, and even if I could find the mistake there is no way to fix it. Feb 09 20:55:07 the mistake is in the first 535 lines Feb 09 20:55:25 not looking at the file isn't going to do any good Feb 09 20:55:29 I can say that much Feb 09 20:55:58 philippe: can someone please to 'make dist' in the gpe-calendar dir? Feb 09 20:56:04 koen: I cannot fix this... OE makes this file. Fixing it in that file will not help. I need to find the cause why OE makes a mistake... Feb 09 20:56:28 koen: I could, but it is florian's stuff... you should annoy him. Feb 09 20:56:29 philippe: how can you fix a mistake if you don't know what it is? Feb 09 20:57:28 koen: I was just gonna put that Feb 09 20:57:42 well first of all I don't see a mistake around those lines. Feb 09 20:57:46 99% likely the mistake is in the .am file as well Feb 09 20:58:36 "this file contains an error, but I'm not going to look at it since it's OE generated" Feb 09 20:59:53 XorA|gone: the weird thing is that the released version works, the svn doesn't and there are no changes in .am, .in or .ac files Feb 09 21:00:46 philippe: I would suspect an unquted variable expansion problem or something then Feb 09 21:00:52 koen: as I tried to explain. It is of no use to fix the file as OE will generate a new one at each run, so I have to fix it somewhere else. So I need to know what OE uses to build that file. Feb 09 21:01:25 you need to look at the offending lines to have a clue what is going wrong Feb 09 21:01:34 I also have a similar problem with libgpepimc_svn, but then I get something like syntax error near unexpected token `(' Feb 09 21:01:43 is the error in run_doconfigure? Feb 09 21:02:01 or in configure script Feb 09 21:02:06 koen: I did look at them, but nothing seems wrong... Feb 09 21:02:26 XorA|gone: it is not in the configure script as it does not get that far. Feb 09 21:03:52 philippe: where is your .bb file Feb 09 21:04:12 I did a debug run. Is there some place to paste these things? pastebin seems to be non-functional Feb 09 21:04:35 XorA|gone: I made a new one based on the one that works for the releases. I am trying to make GPE svn builds Feb 09 21:04:39 ~pastebin Feb 09 21:04:43 I can post it there too... Feb 09 21:04:47 well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/ Feb 09 21:04:50 rafb.net has a pastebin Feb 09 21:04:57 ah ibot is just slow tonight Feb 09 21:06:21 http://rafb.net/p/KDQZ0R70.html and http://rafb.net/p/MUaMMR72.html Feb 09 21:08:10 and this is the code where it fails: http://rafb.net/p/y4D6VL55.html Feb 09 21:08:21 nothing really strange there. Feb 09 21:08:57 [ -x "/home/fille/oe/build/tmp/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux/libgpelaunch-svn-r0/libgpelaunch/configure ] Feb 09 21:09:00 missing quote in your .bb file Feb 09 21:09:00 I count one " Feb 09 21:09:03 not two Feb 09 21:09:16 S = "${WORKDIR}/${PN} Feb 09 21:09:44 hehe Feb 09 21:09:57 as I said a variable expansion quoting problem Feb 09 21:10:03 ok, that must be it... explains the strange " dir ... Feb 09 21:10:24 Thanks guys! Feb 09 21:15:16 ~cluebat philippe for missing quotes Feb 09 21:15:19 * ibot pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps philippe for missing quotes. Feb 09 22:36:48 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r3cff8e6d... 10/ (16 files in 13 dirs): (log message trimmed) Feb 09 22:36:48 packages/libgpelaunch/libgpelaunch_svn.bb Feb 09 22:36:48 * added svn build for libgpelaunch Feb 09 22:36:48 packages/libgpepimc/libgpepimc_svn.bb Feb 09 22:36:48 * added svn build for libgpepimc Feb 09 22:36:49 packages/libgpeplugin/libgpeplugin_svn.bb Feb 09 22:36:51 * added svn build fot libgpeplugin Feb 09 22:51:43 philippe: did you boot 2.6 on h3800 succesfully? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 10 02:59:57 2007