**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 13 03:00:01 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 13 04:20:15 2007 Feb 13 05:06:49 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re064328a... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: demoted madwifi-ng and pvrusb2-mci Feb 13 06:25:40 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r63bf0339... 10/ (1 packages/madwifi/madwifi-ng_r2100-20070210.bb): madwifi-ng: Added a later snapshot which works with 2.6.20 Feb 13 06:25:44 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r38df425f... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: promoted madwifi Feb 13 06:25:47 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rd1d8e0c6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): cyrus-imapd: Added patch to remove -s option from install commands Feb 13 06:58:52 good morning all Feb 13 06:59:08 hey koen Feb 13 06:59:19 * rwhitby runs for the bus Feb 13 07:07:45 morning kown, rwhitby Feb 13 07:18:31 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r780dab6a... 10/ (1 packages/mozilla/firefox-2.0.0.1/arm/jsautocfg.h): firefox-2.0.0.1: replace arm/jsautocfg.h with one generated on arm hardware Feb 13 07:21:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r23fa3261... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): js: add jsautocfg.h for powerpc and arm, copied from firefox-2.0.0.1 Feb 13 07:31:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r46d891a4... 10/ (11 files in 8 dirs): Feb 13 07:31:17 mozilla: move jsautocfg files to files/ so all mozilla products can use the proper ones Feb 13 07:31:17 * also remove the 'generic' jsautocfg, so only arm and powerpc are supported now. You can build 'js' (spidermonkey) on your platform to get a jsautocfg.h Feb 13 07:35:04 Ifaistos: that should improve your powerpc mozilla builds a bit Feb 13 07:39:50 koen : will update and try to rebuild Feb 13 07:41:08 koen : is there a way not to upload the entire ipk dir everytime to the feed ? Feb 13 07:41:42 koen : the way its done simply negates rsync Feb 13 07:42:56 Ifaistos: mv ipk old_ipk ; bitbake foo Feb 13 07:44:39 koen : ok. is there a per machine display of the availiable packages in the feeds ? and not a per "section" i.e base, networking etc Feb 13 07:45:00 not yet Feb 13 07:45:05 feel free to add one :) Feb 13 07:45:16 the source is in contrib/feed-browser Feb 13 07:49:44 hey pH5 Feb 13 07:50:30 hey koen Feb 13 07:51:02 pH5: do you know how well internal wifi works on the hx with recent kernels? Feb 13 07:53:56 except for missing suspend/resume support, I didn't have any problems. but I didn't use it all that much. Feb 13 07:56:10 ok Feb 13 07:56:22 it would free up the cf slot so I can put in a microdrive Feb 13 07:57:19 heh. wifi + microdrive = battery discharger Feb 13 07:57:33 it will be in the cradle for 99% of the time Feb 13 07:57:51 11M firefox_2.0.0.1-r1_armv5te.ipk Feb 13 07:57:51 48M firefox-dbg_2.0.0.1-r1_armv5te.ipk Feb 13 07:57:56 aah :) Feb 13 08:00:06 morning Feb 13 08:00:10 hi hrw Feb 13 08:01:29 hey hrw Feb 13 08:03:34 * koen thinks mozilla is insane Feb 13 08:08:31 hi Feb 13 08:09:56 koen: good point Feb 13 08:43:19 koen : firefox still fails at the same point :( Feb 13 09:04:22 hey psokolovsky, does upstream know about your hciattach EINTR patch? Feb 13 09:05:07 pH5, not yet Feb 13 09:05:45 pH5, I let me calm down a bit, to not start message with "hello, a%$%Y^&" ;-E Feb 13 09:05:55 :) ok Feb 13 09:06:02 of course, bit of review here also a good thing ;-) Feb 13 09:08:40 morning all Feb 13 09:09:29 hey ade|desk Feb 13 10:26:34 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r62e88e45... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): /uclibc/uclibc-svn:Add generic powerpc config Feb 13 10:26:38 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * raf2a13b1... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): /uclibc/uclibc-0.9.28: Add generic powerpc config Feb 13 10:43:51 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re4d9afd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1-oabi.conf): angstrom-2007.1-oabi.conf: linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.19-hh7 no longer available, use -hh10. Feb 13 11:14:57 morning Feb 13 11:35:30 hello everyone Feb 13 11:36:11 where can I find how to launch Angtrom-gpe on qemu-system-arm ? Feb 13 11:39:01 the kernel starts but stops on a kernel panic, he can't mount de root fs Feb 13 11:40:36 eabi kernel? Feb 13 11:40:48 yeah I think Feb 13 11:40:57 I built angstrom-gpe-image Feb 13 11:41:11 with machine qemuarm Feb 13 11:42:29 he loads the image on sda, don't know how to tell the kernel to search here Feb 13 11:43:56 how can I see if it is eabi and ... what does it means ? :p Feb 13 11:44:22 hm.. I need to look at qemuarm in OE and OE ver of qemu-native and compare them with Poky ones Feb 13 11:44:45 I don't have qemu-native Feb 13 11:44:54 I've setup it by portgae Feb 13 11:45:56 I think I've made a mistake in the oiptions for qemu but don't know where to look Feb 13 11:49:56 hi all, how can I select the cvs version of libopie2 while building opie-image? Feb 13 11:54:55 I don't have jffs2 support in my kernel, maybe that's the problem ? Feb 13 11:55:19 cristiano-p: OPIE_VERSION is a key Feb 13 11:55:40 delvin_: no - qemu usually use ext2 Feb 13 11:56:12 Ihave 2 files, one finiching ba tar.gz and the other one in jffs2 Feb 13 11:57:08 cristiano-p, hrw: nope, I changed it to use standard SRCDATE. Feb 13 11:57:29 cristiano-p, http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom Feb 13 11:57:43 delvin_: IMAGE_FSTYPES need 'ext2' also - then rebuild image Feb 13 11:58:14 delvin_: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/qemu/ Feb 13 11:58:36 ok, how can I convert it to ext2 then ? Feb 13 11:58:51 delvin_: OE will take care Feb 13 11:59:34 where doi I tell him to do that ? Feb 13 11:59:40 in local.conf ? Feb 13 12:00:05 yes Feb 13 12:00:13 yes I've found it Feb 13 12:00:54 thx hrw :) now let's see if that works :p Feb 13 12:01:58 psokolovsky, thx (I was getting mad among preferred-opie-versions.inc and preferred-opie-cvs-versions.inc) Feb 13 12:02:46 morning all Feb 13 12:02:53 h i rp Feb 13 12:05:11 rwhitby: I was supposed to be doing something to kernel.bbclass for you, what was it? :-/ Feb 13 12:09:18 hrw, doesn't work, the kernel doesn't look for ext2 image type Feb 13 12:20:15 re Feb 13 12:30:21 oops: Fetch failed: http://www.sqlite.org/sqlite-3.3.9.tar.gz Feb 13 12:35:12 hrw, yay, i've found :) Feb 13 12:35:13 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rd3e5f4ad... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): sqlite3: update to 3.3.12, remove 3.3.7 and 3.3.9, which vanished upstream Feb 13 12:35:54 needed to specify -append="/dev/sda" Feb 13 12:53:41 pH5, thx Feb 13 13:14:14 anu idea why kernel header files and uclibc headers would be included in the final image ? Feb 13 13:20:12 hrw|gone, delvin_ : you need qemu-native, not some shit from p0tr4ge Feb 13 13:20:17 that lack nptl patches Feb 13 13:21:28 re Feb 13 13:21:37 koen: my qemu-native is from OH :D Feb 13 13:22:06 hrw: I know, just reminding the next time someone comes along who thinks he knows better Feb 13 13:22:15 and is surpised it doesn't work Feb 13 13:23:15 koen: which dir contain firmware in OE images? Feb 13 13:23:33 binary-only? Feb 13 13:23:46 yes Feb 13 13:23:59 build time or runtime? Feb 13 13:24:19 build time: org.openembedded.dev/packages/misc-binary-only Feb 13 13:24:35 runtime ${libdir}/hotplug/firmware iirc Feb 13 13:24:39 but I'm not sure Feb 13 13:25:09 ok Feb 13 13:25:11 ${D}/lib/firmware/ according to the acx recipe Feb 13 13:25:16 :q Feb 13 13:26:27 ${D}${base_libdir}/firmware you mean? Feb 13 13:26:43 that's what I mean, not what that recipe means :) Feb 13 13:30:59 hrw: Thats right as far as I remeber. I'd look at sprecturm-fw as I know that works ;-) Feb 13 13:31:23 RP: rt2571-firmware ;D Feb 13 13:31:39 hrw: I suspected ;-) Feb 13 13:31:43 tda puts it in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware Feb 13 13:32:06 * RP suspects udev doesn't look there Feb 13 13:32:23 I know it doesn't look there :) Feb 13 13:32:32 RP: looks like sooner or later I will buy some usb toys to check some stuff Feb 13 13:32:37 * koen fought with ivtv firmware loading last weekend Feb 13 13:34:18 hi all Feb 13 13:41:41 how to let kernel modules get builded and integrated into the resulting image - is it a part of the kernel .bb file? Feb 13 13:42:40 mr_nice: as far as I know, if your kernel configuration file defines the modules, each module that is built will be automatically placed in its own ipk file Feb 13 13:43:05 you can then either install the ipk file manually or add it to your distro so it gets installed when you do bootstrap-image Feb 13 13:43:31 Jin^eLD: thx Feb 13 13:44:31 np Feb 13 13:45:58 * koen muses on the usefullness of scratchbox with armv6 targets Feb 13 13:49:23 hrw: are the details of your testlab work available on your blog? Feb 13 13:49:37 koen: I still struggle to have certain ipk packges be machine specific; COMPATIBLE_MACHINE does not seem to do it; I looked at the lirc bb file that is in OE - there is even no COMPATIBLE_MACHINE defined there but the ipk is being named machine specific Feb 13 13:49:38 whats the trick? Feb 13 13:50:00 ah, I see what you want Feb 13 13:50:11 PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" Feb 13 13:50:15 koen: no Feb 13 13:50:16 and remove the compatible machine Feb 13 13:50:20 aah! that was it, thanks! Feb 13 13:50:49 koen: I did celinux-test distro, fixed omap5912 machine, moved both to task-base, cleaned linux-omap kernels Feb 13 13:51:01 remove - even if this particular package requires that machine? or will the package arch flag have the same meaning? Feb 13 13:51:16 do we have gsfonts in OE? Feb 13 13:51:25 Jin^eLD: It depends Feb 13 13:51:43 Jin^eLD: if that package only works on that machine you need compatible_machine + package_arch Feb 13 13:51:58 Jin^eLD: if it's only machine specific, you only need package_arch Feb 13 13:52:04 ok I see.. Feb 13 13:52:22 thanks! Feb 13 13:53:44 hrw: right, I knew about that Feb 13 13:54:14 koen: and source mirror stuff which I still forgots to mail about to OEML Feb 13 13:54:15 hrw: I'm having a though time estimating the audience Feb 13 13:55:04 ah.. have to add some patch to bitbake 1.6 Feb 13 13:55:25 * koen mumbles something about a 1.7.4 release Feb 13 13:55:35 1.6.4 Feb 13 13:57:00 03hrw 07bitbake-1.6 * r754 10/lib/bb/fetch/svn.py: Feb 13 13:57:00 svn fetcher: add two backport patches from OE #829 Feb 13 13:57:00 - allow to use 'srcdate' param in SRC_URI lines (from trunk) Feb 13 13:57:00 - do not use SRCDATE in archive names when REV is provided (from trunk) Feb 13 13:57:13 ~summon zecke Feb 13 13:57:25 isn't zecke at the beach? Feb 13 13:57:26 apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing zecke's coordinates Feb 13 13:58:11 koen: iirc he is one of bitbake admins so he can make file release Feb 13 13:58:49 kergoth, rp and zecke can do releases Feb 13 13:59:02 RP: can you add 1.6.4 release into queue? Feb 13 13:59:25 * koen adds some angstrom propaganda to the OE presentations Feb 13 14:00:14 koen: I do not have publishing powers on angstrom website Feb 13 14:00:28 want to have them> Feb 13 14:00:45 koen: want to write About? Feb 13 14:02:59 you now have publishing powers Feb 13 14:03:12 gracias Feb 13 14:04:48 koen: do you know who normaly integrates patches into oe? Feb 13 14:07:00 mr_nice: any OE devel Feb 13 14:09:32 how long is the normal time to wait until it will be integrated? Feb 13 14:09:40 depends Feb 13 14:10:01 on sparetime? or on the quality of the patch? Feb 13 14:10:07 on devel time and user pestering level Feb 13 14:10:53 user pestering level? what does that means? Feb 13 14:11:48 mr_nice: user create patch. user want it in OE. user pesters us to get it integrated. if he is too annoying someone can finally add it or add user into ignore Feb 13 14:12:47 mr_nice: so it has to be creative and thoughtful pestering... flaming will get you into the ignore list. Feb 13 14:12:55 oh :) - I have allready created the patch and commited it on bugtracker. Feb 13 14:13:27 my fear is that the topic SIMpad will let it be verry uniteresting Feb 13 14:14:58 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r2b785124... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): pciutils-2.2.4: Add patch so they compile for uclibc Feb 13 14:14:58 mr_nice: which bug number? Feb 13 14:15:14 mr_nice: depends. If some developer has a SIMpad it might go fast... Feb 13 14:15:23 hrw:1867 Feb 13 14:15:28 And of course you have friendly devs too :-) Feb 13 14:15:34 !oebug 1867 Feb 13 14:15:37 * * Bug 1867, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-02-12 08:38 Feb 13 14:15:38 * * Bernhard.Guillon(AT)opensimpad.org: New start with SIMpad 2.6 Kernel based on Vanilla 2.6.20. The old hh.org one is broken because of changes to the mpc driver stuff Feb 13 14:15:39 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1867 Feb 13 14:16:15 philippe: no dev have a simpad anymore - thats the problem ;) Feb 13 14:16:50 mr_nice: asked on kernel-discuss @hh.org does someone work on simpad at all? Feb 13 14:17:05 mr_nice: or did you took over maintainership of simpad in 2.6? Feb 13 14:18:23 hrw: no I didn't ask - and I didn't took it over. There is no active developer who owns a SIMpad or cares about it. and the hh.org kernel is borken 3 month or so Feb 13 14:18:32 * philippe thinks florian still does some simpad related stuff when he has time Feb 13 14:18:58 mr_nice, if it's broken 3 months, it means it needs fix, nothing more Feb 13 14:19:00 mr_nice: basically I can add this kernel into OE but would like to know about simpad status Feb 13 14:19:06 hrw: but I started to begin writing drivers for it. the patch also integrates my now switches driver Feb 13 14:19:47 hrw: zecke is the 2.6 maintainer. but he don't use it anymore. woglinde also have a simpad Feb 13 14:19:52 mr_nice: do you plan to send this patch upstream? RMK patch tracker etc? Feb 13 14:20:24 hrw: I plan to send it to rmk but before I do this I will test it a bit better Feb 13 14:20:31 ok Feb 13 14:21:13 mr_nice: please give descriptions when attach files into bugzilla Feb 13 14:21:15 hi mickeyl Feb 13 14:21:20 hi Feb 13 14:21:37 hrw: about which files are created? Feb 13 14:21:47 mickeyl: hi Feb 13 14:22:21 mr_nice: #1867 attachements lack descriptions and no info which is correct Feb 13 14:22:52 mr_nice: bugzilla allow to obsolete attachments during adding new ones Feb 13 14:23:13 hrw: sorry - blame on me. they are all the same. I clicked to fast and read to less - sorry Feb 13 14:24:16 mr_nice: ok Feb 13 14:24:42 hrw: next time I will get better Feb 13 14:24:52 mr_nice: do you want to have linux-simpad or can I merge it with linux_2.6.20.bb recipe? (prefer merging) Feb 13 14:26:05 hrw: do how you feel like. If you want you can do :). Feb 13 14:27:07 hrw: thy for adding the patch :9 Feb 13 14:31:34 any idea why packages i mention in DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS are build but not included in the final image (bootstrap-image) ? Feb 13 14:34:35 monotone devels: I HATE YOU! YOU ARE STUPID, IGNORANT and DOES NOT even TEST monotone Feb 13 14:34:40 fscking mtn update Feb 13 14:34:47 mtn: misuse: path 'packages/js/files/powerpc' already exists, cannot create Feb 13 14:35:11 sounds like you had a _MTN/tmp/ Feb 13 14:35:24 koen: which I got because of that misuse Feb 13 14:35:41 its loop Feb 13 14:35:54 hrw: justinp is a monotone devel now, so you can bitch at him now ;) Feb 13 14:37:13 touch file-which-will-be-created-by-update;mtn update; look at breaking monotone;say fuck!;rm -rf _MTN/tmp;mtn --missing revert;mtn update; say fuck!!!;....;rm -rf working_copy;order killteam for monotone team;mtn co Feb 13 14:37:22 http://www.safenow.org/ Feb 13 14:40:47 "If you are trapped under falling debris, conserve oxygen by not farting." ;DDD Feb 13 14:46:01 koen, hrw sorry i was away and portage from gentoo is not really shit Feb 13 14:46:20 delvin_: portage is not. but qemu/gentoo is crap Feb 13 14:46:46 it works at last Feb 13 14:48:03 koen: rm mozilla/files/powerpc/ js/files/powerpc/ mozilla/files/arm js/files/arm -rf; rm -rf ../_MTN/tmp/;mtn revert --missing;mtn update Feb 13 14:54:58 since there are specifications for the collie 2.6 sd driver, do you think some of the devs working on the kernel itself(over at kernel.org) would write a driver? Their offering to write drivers for companies, if companies give the devs specifications Feb 13 14:56:21 sharp isn't going to give them docs Feb 13 14:57:26 koen : any idea why packages i mention in DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS are build but not included in the final image (bootstrap-image) ? Feb 13 14:57:45 no idea Feb 13 14:57:52 koen: but if the reverse engineering has already been done Feb 13 14:57:57 I don't use bootstrap-image Feb 13 14:58:31 koen : i am building for uclibc and it seems for some reason uclibc-dev is included in the rootfs... Feb 13 14:58:38 koen : really strange Feb 13 14:58:57 Ifaistos: sounds like problem with -dbg packages Feb 13 15:00:03 mr_nice: will you *maintain* simpad in OE? if yes then I will add you to MAINTAINERS file Feb 13 15:00:13 koen : do you make any sense out of it ? -> http://www.pastebin.ca/353737 Feb 13 15:01:19 Ifaistos: incorrect debug packaging messing up shlibs would be my guess Feb 13 15:02:06 mr_nice: ? Feb 13 15:02:16 hrw: yes? Feb 13 15:02:19 mr_nice: will you *maintain* simpad in OE? if yes then I will add you to MAINTAINERS file Feb 13 15:04:22 hrw: I can maintain the the simpad kernel stuff in OE. For the rest I think my bitbake knowledge is to low. Feb 13 15:04:57 hrw: but i will try to improve it Feb 13 15:05:48 "Crosscompling - how to do it yourCELF" Feb 13 15:06:02 hrw: what else have I to do if I will be the simpad maintainer for oe? Feb 13 15:06:30 koen: hehe, that's funny Feb 13 15:09:19 koen: :D Feb 13 15:09:46 mr_nice: building and making sure that atleast bootstrap-image works ok Feb 13 15:10:32 hrw: how often? Feb 13 15:13:45 hrw: my pc is low powered. I can do a bootstrap-image every 2 - 4 weeks or so. Feb 13 15:14:03 hrw: but I can watch the bugtecker Feb 13 15:15:26 hrw: if that is enough I will do the job :) Feb 13 15:22:26 mr_nice: ok. Feb 13 15:22:52 hrw: fine :) Feb 13 15:25:17 mr_nice: I usually bump linux recipe after kernel release. so if you will take care of updating patches for 2.6.21 when it will be in -rc phase I will be glad. Feb 13 15:26:09 mr_nice: ask koen to add simpad to list of Angstrom devices ;D Feb 13 15:26:22 isn't it in there already? Feb 13 15:26:27 hrw: I will do the patches. Feb 13 15:26:29 mr_nice: you also need to convert simpad to use MACHINE_FEATURES if it does not use it Feb 13 15:27:40 hrw: MACHINE_FEATURES means? Is there an exapmle which uses MACHINE_FEATURES Feb 13 15:28:00 mr_nice: most of machines use it Feb 13 15:28:28 hrw: ok I will look for it - could take a weak or so Feb 13 15:29:01 mr_nice: it is easy Feb 13 15:29:06 simple list Feb 13 15:29:08 hrw: maybe I will be faster then Feb 13 15:29:26 simpad 2.6 is 'kernel screen pcmcia' iirc Feb 13 15:29:32 simpad 2.6 is 'kernel26 apm screen pcmcia' iirc Feb 13 15:29:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r762759b3... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux/progear/progear_bl-r6.patch): linux: updated progear backlight support Feb 13 15:29:39 03Bernhard 07org.oe.dev * r0a027f25... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): simpad: added 2.6.20 kernel - close #1867 Feb 13 15:29:43 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdd511be6... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: added Bernhard Guillon as simpad maintainer, added progear to my devices Feb 13 15:29:47 did anyone hear about this DAVE seagate drive with wifi and bluetooth? they say there will be an open SDK for it, I wonder if it uses linux Feb 13 15:30:19 * CosmicPenguin starts his annual OE metadata upgrade Feb 13 15:30:21 hrw: I will ask if I get into trouble Feb 13 15:31:29 hrw: but I can not start with it before friday - I write a Math test on friday Feb 13 15:34:26 Jin^eLD: Yes, from what I have heard, the DAVE product runs Linux. Feb 13 15:35:16 cbrake: cool! I did some googling but could not find any info about it Feb 13 15:35:35 mr_nice: no problem Feb 13 15:36:22 Jin^eLD: the only reason I know is they were interested in having me help debug a problem with the system, but I never did end up working on it. Feb 13 15:37:16 :) Feb 13 15:37:29 is it ARM based or what do they use? Feb 13 15:38:14 Jin^eLD: yes, it is ARM based, but I don't recall exactly what processor. Feb 13 15:38:45 would be a cool application for my upnp server :) Feb 13 15:39:40 Jin^eLD: nod -- sounds like a neat device! Feb 13 15:40:21 cbrake: do you know if they use OE already or will we have to do the work? :> Feb 13 15:41:16 Jin^eLD: I doubt they use OE, but don't know for sure. Feb 13 15:41:36 Jin^eLD: most people still are not clued in to OE, but I think that will change over the next year. Feb 13 15:41:58 I hope so.. Feb 13 15:42:22 still a lot of verndors seem to be reluctant to understand the benefits Feb 13 15:45:08 hey Feb 13 15:45:15 zecke: hi Feb 13 15:45:22 zecke: bitbake 1.6.4 ready for release Feb 13 15:46:49 great Feb 13 15:46:58 zecke: will you take care of it? Feb 13 15:47:04 if tomorrow is fine, I will Feb 13 15:47:16 today is my official no IP day :} Feb 13 15:47:30 zecke: ok Feb 13 15:47:40 RP: could you poke/ask ross if he has the clutter examples packaged as well? Feb 13 15:47:54 RP: I'm willing to accept the RTFM answer Feb 13 16:19:37 hi Feb 13 17:19:27 Good evening Feb 13 17:19:56 hi sirfred Feb 13 17:20:01 sirfred: got my mail? Feb 13 17:20:09 hrw: Yes, just answered Feb 13 17:20:16 hrw: I'm interested. Feb 13 17:20:36 ok. I will buy it then. where are you from? Feb 13 17:20:39 hrw: I was in doubt for a while. But a new gadget is a new gadget. Feb 13 17:20:42 hrw: Spain Feb 13 17:20:55 ok Feb 13 17:21:03 no customs etc crap then Feb 13 17:21:04 hrw: You're in Poland, aren't you? Feb 13 17:21:11 yes Feb 13 17:21:12 sirfred, hrw : which gadget are we talking about? Feb 13 17:21:18 philippe: toshiba e740 Feb 13 17:21:51 philippe: I can get used one quite cheap (~50 eur) - sirfred will get another device to test w100 support Feb 13 17:22:09 sirfred: Spyro got linux working on it already iirc ;) Feb 13 17:22:37 hrw: Is it totally supported ? The rest of the hardware, I mean. Feb 13 17:22:54 sirfred: have to check on his website Feb 13 17:23:02 It was a nice device, I remember to have borrowed one, some time ago Feb 13 17:23:08 http://www.mnementh.co.uk/eseries/ Feb 13 17:23:14 looks good. And the price for a used one seems okay too. Feb 13 17:23:35 * philippe struggles to get his H3800 to work again. Feb 13 17:23:47 I suppose the 4 hours of battery are with the wifi switched off. Feb 13 17:23:56 sirfred: SD boot only Feb 13 17:23:58 Seems all the drivers in 2.6 need to be cleaned up. They just copied the stuff from 2.4 to 2.6 Feb 13 17:24:16 4h with wifi Feb 13 17:24:40 hrw: wow Feb 13 17:25:02 philippe, main asic2 drivers (buttons/ts) work well. I use them on h3900. Feb 13 17:25:27 psokolovsky: do they work for h3600/h3800? Feb 13 17:25:39 psokolovsky: strongarm vs pxa hw Feb 13 17:25:41 philippe, asic2 is in h3800 & h3900 Feb 13 17:31:28 psokolovsky: thanks for the hint. I'll check it out... Feb 13 17:51:30 sirfred: mail to seller sent Feb 13 17:52:11 hrw: Thanks Feb 13 17:52:34 hrw: If the transaction progresses, how would you like to be payed? Feb 13 17:52:56 Hmm, perhaps it's paid, isn't it? Feb 13 17:53:07 paid Feb 13 17:53:16 I thought my english couldn't get worse, but I was wrong. Feb 13 17:53:19 sirfred: moneybookers? Feb 13 17:53:29 hrw: I'm not familiar with that. Feb 13 17:53:52 hrw: I'm not familiar with any kind of payment, to say the truth. How does it work ? Feb 13 17:54:26 sirfred:you can also do wire payment to my bank account Feb 13 17:54:36 simplest Feb 13 17:55:48 hrw: With a simple bank transfer ? Feb 13 17:56:35 I'm looking at that moneybookers.com page. Feb 13 17:58:49 sirfred: simple transfer Feb 13 17:58:53 hi greentux Feb 13 17:59:42 hi hrw Feb 13 17:59:50 hrw: Ok. Let me know the final price (+shipping) when you know it. Feb 13 18:00:18 sirfred: ok will do Feb 13 18:02:01 One question: I've ported a frontend for the snes9x emulator to work on GPE. But the configuration is spreaded through a set of files. What is the preferred way to deal with configuration files in gpe ? Feb 13 18:02:28 cu Feb 13 18:03:48 Is it possible to tell OE to ignore a certificate issue for https such as for https://svn.openwrt.org? Feb 13 18:05:22 Laibsch, you probably have to tell svn still? Feb 13 18:05:39 ??? Feb 13 18:05:46 still? Feb 13 18:05:59 Laibsch, it's svn which freaks out? Feb 13 18:06:30 sirfred: keep them in a .gpe/${PROGNAME} dir Feb 13 18:06:47 philippe: That's what I'm making now Feb 13 18:06:50 psokolovsky: http://rafb.net/p/qWPWV356.html Feb 13 18:07:03 sirfred: perfect! Feb 13 18:07:41 philippe: But as it's creating a file for every ROM configured in the frontend... I supposed that perhaps some embedded DB should be better Feb 13 18:08:12 Laibsch, so yes, can you tell SVN to ignore such stuff by default? I bet there's no command-line switch for that. It's "security". so, just press "p". Feb 13 18:08:26 sirfred: in GPE there is libsqlite for that. Feb 13 18:08:44 sirfred: But if you want to discuss details we should take this to #gpe I guess Feb 13 18:09:00 philippe: Sure. Thanks Feb 13 18:09:30 psokolovsky: I have no idea if that is possible which is why I am asking. And "just press p" does not seem to be what I would want to commit. I have also asked the openwrt people to fix their server. Let's see. Feb 13 18:09:59 Laibsch, don't commit that. do that ;-) Feb 13 18:13:24 psokolovsky: I want to commit a fix for a bug in the BTS. Feb 13 18:13:44 psokolovsky: But I cannot commit the fix until all problems have been sorted out. Feb 13 18:14:30 psokolovsky: pragmatism is nice but does not help in this case since this fix does not even interest me too much personally. Feb 13 18:45:30 OK, openwrt people will not fix the broken https Feb 13 18:46:17 So, again the question. Is there anything that can be tweaked in OE so users will not have to acknowledge the warning about the invalid cert? Feb 13 18:57:34 What is the difference between application and quicklauncher for opie.bbclass? Feb 13 18:59:54 I've got an strange effect with bitbake trying to download a file using http. I'm able to download it using wget, but bitbake always throws errors during download Feb 13 19:02:07 Always with this error: Feb 13 19:02:08 20:34:49 (96.78 KB/s) - Read error at byte 212063/210976 (Success). Retrying. Feb 13 19:05:15 sirfred: Maybe try "bitbake -c clean $package"? Feb 13 19:05:50 Laibsch: I've downloaded using wget, then replaced the existing version in my sources directory and worked at once. Feb 13 19:06:01 Laibsch: Perhaps it tried to compare the local and remote versions, don't know Feb 13 19:10:01 local.conf:FETCHCOMMAND_svn = "echo t|/usr/bin/env svn co ${SVNCOOPTS} ${SVNROOT} ${SVNMODULE}" Feb 13 19:10:05 local.conf:UPDATECOMMAND_svn = "echo t|/usr/bin/env svn update ${SVNCOOPTS}" Feb 13 19:10:20 Laibsch: use this to auto accept self-signed ssl certs for svn Feb 13 19:18:37 hrw|gone: Thank you for the suggestion. Alas, again this would solve it for me but I am looking for something to commit and be sure that everybody benefits. Furthermore, this is not a self-signed cert but just the case where svn.openwrt.org uses the cert for openwrt.org Feb 13 19:25:19 hrw|gone, do you know it works or do you think it would? Feb 13 19:47:52 has anyone used bootchart? Feb 13 19:57:37 mreimer: I used it and psokolovsky improved it Feb 13 19:57:45 hey koen Feb 13 19:57:51 mreimer: iirc 'bitbake bootchart-image' Feb 13 19:58:14 int *width = 800; Feb 13 19:58:18 is that valid c? Feb 13 19:58:28 koen|away: I have it running, but the jffs2 I/O and cpu graphs are flat. Did you see this? Feb 13 19:58:45 koen: it depends on whether width is a pointer to an int, or an int itself Feb 13 19:58:46 it's been a looooooooooooooong while since I looked at it Feb 13 19:58:59 koen: you probably want "int width = 800" Feb 13 19:59:22 trying to get boot time on this device down from 3 minutes Feb 13 19:59:26 (ouch) Feb 13 19:59:35 firt boot or second boot? Feb 13 19:59:48 second :-( Feb 13 20:00:24 ouch Feb 13 20:00:43 yes. flash read speed is 3MB/s+, so I was surprised Feb 13 20:00:57 I think shell forking is killing us Feb 13 20:05:00 mreimer: also get rid of console boot messages if you can... Feb 13 20:05:16 philippe: it makes that much difference? Feb 13 20:05:16 Sometimes that can take quite some time too... Feb 13 20:05:21 ok Feb 13 20:06:06 Well if it is serial it goes with the baudrate, and I heard that on some types of HW it is rather expensive for the fb updates Feb 13 20:06:15 that makes sense Feb 13 20:10:25 has anyone succeeded to compile lftp? it tries to check for trio and then configure says: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling Feb 13 20:10:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc80d3d5f... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): pixop-test: add small benchmark program to test gdk pixbuf scaling speed Feb 13 20:12:22 what is trio anyway? its not in their configure.ac, so its something that autotools are figuring out internally Feb 13 20:16:00 drat Feb 13 20:16:05 * koen reboots h2200 Feb 13 20:16:10 bye bye 91 days uptime Feb 13 20:16:25 heh.. Feb 13 20:16:39 * philippe wonders if koen has the linux handheld uptime record. Feb 13 20:16:46 no Feb 13 20:16:57 iirc pigeons has 500+ days Feb 13 20:17:37 are you guys holding a competition on this? :) Feb 13 20:17:59 no, I just hate to reboot my native build 'machine' Feb 13 20:18:29 hehe Feb 13 20:22:05 koen: I think you probably have the h2200 record Feb 13 20:39:27 RP: you were going to work out a standard way for distros to not include the actual kernel binary file in the rootfs Feb 13 20:47:26 SRC_URI = "svn://svn.openwrt.org/openwrt;module=trunk/tools/firmware-utils/src;proto=https" fetches the files fine, but the tar that is created is empty. Anybody have an idea why? Feb 13 20:50:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8b1cdfe9... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libhandoff: move to gpe svn Feb 13 20:56:06 hrw|gone: you seem to have written the svn backend, do you have any idea? Feb 13 21:01:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r53e41147... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): libgpevtype: fix staging Feb 13 21:49:29 psokolovsky: I use that for source mirror Feb 13 21:49:30 Laibsch: no idea now Feb 13 21:49:49 Laibsch: self-signed or bad hostname is same - WRONG cert Feb 13 21:50:51 Laibsch: catch me tomorrow or send recipe and I will look Feb 13 21:51:34 Laibsch: now you can try dropping 'trunk/' from module Feb 13 21:51:39 cu Feb 13 21:55:48 hrw|gone: Thanks. Will catch you later today. Feb 13 22:08:54 good afternoon Feb 13 22:09:16 figured out where my crazy MTD messages were coming from Feb 13 22:10:35 In 2.6.20 always set CONFIG_MTD_PHYSMAP_LEN = 0 if your using ehy PHYSMAP Feb 13 22:10:47 in conjunction with Redboot Feb 13 22:10:59 otherwise it breaks, now you know Feb 13 22:11:51 still get this though: Feb 13 22:12:01 Write error in obliterating obsoleted node at 0x000000b4: -30 Feb 13 22:12:07 everytime I boot from JFFS2 Feb 13 22:12:24 Interestingly everything works, but, I always get that message Feb 13 22:17:29 Good night Feb 13 22:31:55 Hello Feb 13 22:50:08 my EFIKA is sick Feb 13 22:50:17 nothing from the serial port when I power it on Feb 13 23:25:53 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rc847baec... 10/ (1 conf/distro/unslung.conf): unslung: Fixed backwards compatibility requirement for nslu2 package arch. Feb 13 23:34:13 nite all, sweet dreams Feb 13 23:37:56 1463 tasks on the wall, 1363 tasks - take one down, process it around, 1462 tasks on the wall.... Feb 13 23:44:41 hehehe Feb 13 23:44:47 grr Feb 13 23:44:53 My efika croaked Feb 13 23:45:29 and I have to many computers in the house Feb 14 00:05:33 rwhitby: Thanks for the reminder :) Feb 14 00:06:20 np - I'd forgotten about it too :-) Feb 14 00:06:31 BTW, CoreDump|home has an NSLU2 now :-) Feb 14 00:06:49 rwhitby: :) Feb 14 00:07:25 rwhitby: I was looking at some old LED mails about usb activity led triggers. I haven't forgotten that either... Feb 14 00:09:35 sweet - hillct on #nslu2-linux was just asking about that. Feb 14 00:09:42 Do I need to mention how bad the linksys firmware is? =) Feb 14 00:10:42 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r50c9ee81... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Feb 14 00:10:42 kernel.bbclass: Remove PARALLEL_INSTALL_MODULES. If we want to do this we should Feb 14 00:10:42 rethink and have something that works for multiple kernel versions generically Feb 14 00:10:42 not just a 2.4/2.6 split. There are certainly better ways to do it than this. Feb 14 00:11:05 That was where I got sidetracked last time I looked at this... Feb 14 00:11:20 CoreDump|home: sure - it's very cathartic. Feb 14 00:13:08 n8 Feb 14 00:24:12 rwhitby: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/fix_kernel_image_pkgs.patch is roughtly what I have in mind (untested). If a machine doesn't want the kernel image in the rootfs, it should be a case of setting RDEPENDS_kernel-base = "" after inherit kernel. I've not tested this yet ;-) Feb 14 00:27:53 'night all Feb 14 00:27:58 gÄnight rp Feb 14 00:28:06 night RP - will look at that patch Feb 14 00:53:09 anyone here work at imec in .be? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 14 02:59:57 2007