**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 21 02:59:56 2007 Mar 21 05:17:30 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r6a907622... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.20: add sharpsl-rc patch for the CE-RH2 remote Mar 21 05:17:37 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * re348a557... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): angstrom: re-add e-image and tasks without gpe-bootsplash Mar 21 07:07:39 morning all Mar 21 08:29:44 good morning Mar 21 08:30:13 morning Mar 21 08:31:40 hi florian, hrw Mar 21 09:08:28 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r012d86dc... 10/ (1 site/ix86-common): site/ix86-common: Add enca bits Mar 21 09:08:32 03florian 07org.oe.dev * reed92511... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): gpephone: Update some library descriptions. Mar 21 09:14:59 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * reee64fc0... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): packages/ipkg/ipkg-collateral.bb: Add dest definitions for oplinux and oplinux-uclibc Mar 21 09:21:41 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rcdbba2b7... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: Add semi-custom profile for oplinux and oplinux-uclibc Mar 21 09:35:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd77e6932... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): openmoko-session: start dialer so people can receive phonecalls by default :) Mar 21 09:35:40 hehe Mar 21 09:35:58 koen|away: this makes OpenMoko as bad as Windows Mobile ;) Mar 21 09:36:05 koen|away: I want to enter my PIN, not more... Mar 21 09:36:25 zecke: there's an openmoko pin dialog??!?! Mar 21 09:37:30 koen: might be wise to create one Mar 21 09:41:39 adding IM selector to panel would be wise too Mar 21 09:48:43 koen: gcc-cross_4.1.2.bb doesn't install libstdc++.so.6 into staging Mar 21 09:48:56 schurig: weird Mar 21 09:49:16 when I compile a C++ program, I get this error: Mar 21 09:49:46 it's in tmp/staging/gcc-cross-4.1.2-r0/install/libstdc++/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8 Mar 21 09:50:12 wtf Mar 21 09:50:31 I get ": line 229: storcenter-image_do_configure: command not found" building gmp-native Mar 21 09:50:51 koen: and it is (correctly) packages into the libstdc++ ipk Mar 21 09:50:55 florian: ask NAiL Mar 21 09:51:05 koen: do you have it in your tmp/staging? Mar 21 09:51:11 NAiL: you are guilty? Mar 21 09:54:16 schurig: I also build gcc (non-cross), so it is there Mar 21 09:54:55 koen: I've never build a non-cross yet, I don't intend to compile on a slow 400 MHz machine :-) Mar 21 09:55:45 koen: what in packages/gcc/* is responsible for installing libstdc++? I haven't so far found any reference to it that installs it in staging. Or is it in a .bbclass? Mar 21 09:56:08 schurig: I suspect gcc-package-cross.inc Mar 21 09:56:36 koen: that doesn't even have a do_stage ... Mar 21 09:56:49 hmmm Mar 21 09:56:55 maybe cross.bbclass? Mar 21 10:02:15 my log.do_stage shows that is has been installed into tmp/cross/arm-linux/lib Mar 21 10:02:32 and it's indeed an ARM object file Mar 21 10:03:12 koen: should I try to install it in tmp/cross and tmp/staging? Or should I fiddle with my Makefile to -Ltmp/cross/... ?? Mar 21 10:03:41 Hi! Can someone explain, why kernel.bbclass is so selective in the do_stage step? wanted to build TrueCrypt, that needs ${K_STG_DIR}/drivers/md, and it's not in the kernel_do_stage() of the kernel.bbclass. Mar 21 10:04:17 schurig: no idea, the cross stuff is arcane Mar 21 10:04:29 schurig: I suspect the toolchain should automatically be looking in tmp/cross due to the spec file Mar 21 10:08:32 RP: hmm, there is no spec file. I just have a tmp/cross/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.3.4/specs from my gcc-cross-kernel Mar 21 10:12:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2197a306... 10/ (1 packages/images/openmoko-image.bb): openmoko-image: install a terminal, virtual keyboard and other stuff to make it useable Mar 21 10:12:22 how do i tell ipkg to use a local path for Packages.gz not http nor ftp ? Mar 21 10:12:40 use file:// URL Mar 21 10:13:10 schurig: Strange, my local 4.1.1 doesn't have one either... Mar 21 10:14:09 hrw, thanks Mar 21 10:16:17 hrw, and what is the bb to build the packages index again ? Mar 21 10:18:55 package-index Mar 21 10:19:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r448c7bd2... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-base/openmoko-icon-theme-standard_svn.bb): openmoko-icon-theme-standard: merge from openmoko svn Mar 21 10:23:03 | /home/hrw/devel/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/dates-0.3.1-r1/temp/run.do_configure.12577: line 354: storcenter-image_do_configure: command not found Mar 21 10:23:07 WTF?? Mar 21 10:23:38 hrw: ask NAiL Mar 21 10:27:38 wth? Mar 21 10:28:04 where does it pick up that? Mar 21 10:28:26 bitbake dates Mar 21 10:28:48 huh? Mar 21 10:28:49 NAiL: rm foonas-image == working Mar 21 10:29:02 NAiL: I do not know why it happened Mar 21 10:31:04 i cant get a /dev/fb0 but i do have a output on my screen ,, do i need to link a different device to fb0 ?? this is a amdgx frambuffer board Mar 21 10:32:02 rob_w: cat /proc/fb Mar 21 10:32:15 koen, empty Mar 21 10:32:27 rob_w: then it isn't a framebuffer Mar 21 10:33:30 florian: I'm quite possibly guilty. Dunno yet though, because I've got no idea what happens. Mar 21 10:33:52 (And I'm not near my devbox, so right now I can't check either) Mar 21 10:34:19 it probably has something todo with the parsing error bitbake throws Mar 21 10:34:22 NAiL: ok, well... i can confirm it works if you remove the foonas-image.bb Mar 21 10:34:27 hmm i selected GX as frambuffer , i try GX1 now Mar 21 10:34:39 koen: what parsing error? Mar 21 10:34:50 rob_w: Netvista? ;) Mar 21 10:34:54 NAiL: lack of storcenter*bbclass Mar 21 10:35:01 oh Mar 21 10:36:45 Can someone sync and tell me if it works now? Mar 21 10:36:58 The file was in my local repo. I forgot to add it. Mar 21 10:37:17 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r02a6624c... 10/ (1 classes/storcenter-image.bbclass): storcenter: Add storcenter-image.bbclass Mar 21 10:37:46 florian, no , new boards Mar 21 10:37:51 as soon as the compiler is ready... Mar 21 10:37:56 florian, amd gx Mar 21 10:41:39 hmm i cat get the fb to see Mar 21 10:42:30 should i try xserver-kdrive-vesa ? Mar 21 10:43:56 ah that vesa gives me a pic Mar 21 10:45:52 NAiL: now it works Mar 21 10:45:56 NAiL: thx Mar 21 10:46:28 hrw: np, thanks for letting me know Mar 21 10:52:18 yay. I already wondered where that storcenter stuff came from. I had the same problem yesterday doing an openmoko build Mar 21 10:54:04 morninb Mar 21 10:59:08 hi XorA Mar 21 11:00:03 arg "No fonts found" Mar 21 11:00:55 rob_w: the ultimate text rendering optimisation Mar 21 11:03:20 well Mar 21 11:04:49 hey XorA Mar 21 11:10:14 bloody audio Mar 21 11:11:43 NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime (how much more obvious could that message be?) Mar 21 11:15:47 hi, all! Mar 21 11:15:56 koen, ping Mar 21 11:17:35 strange ive Xvesa running but it toogles to restart it when i launch a x app Mar 21 11:20:33 NAiL: looks good so far.. thanks Mar 21 11:20:50 rob_w: does XFbdev work? Mar 21 11:21:14 no /dev/fb0 Mar 21 11:21:28 brb Mar 21 11:23:44 * XorA tests AC97 driver with some Industrial music Mar 21 11:39:03 XorA: "Industrial music" == /dev/urandom? ;) Mar 21 11:39:20 florian: yeah that kind of thing :-) Mar 21 11:41:15 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfef7c2b7... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): Mar 21 11:41:15 angstrom: bump some versions Mar 21 11:41:15 apparently "NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime gdk-pixbuf-loader-png" is not clear enough, any suggestions for a better message? Mar 21 11:41:19 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra2feb55d... 10/ (58 files in 5 dirs): gtk: remove 2.10.x cruft Mar 21 11:47:29 kinda offtopic, xorg-xserver build on angstrom does not serve X client connections via network. Anyone knows the fast way to enable them? Mar 21 11:49:02 bgeradz: remove -nolisten tcp from the startup script Mar 21 11:51:06 thx! Mar 21 12:08:22 koen: can't find 'nolisten' throughout the whole filesystem. Any other idea? Mar 21 12:08:51 bgeradz: sadly not Mar 21 12:14:56 is there a daemontools alternative that anyone uses in oe? Mar 21 12:15:23 rwhitby: good morning! Mar 21 12:15:25 furlongm: daemontools like the cd emulator thingy? Mar 21 12:16:43 philippe: no, daemontools as in the djb service manager Mar 21 12:16:57 or like runit Mar 21 12:17:09 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r96c89697... 10/ (1 packages/mysql/mysql-native_4.1.18.bb): Mar 21 12:17:09 packages/mysql/mysql-native_4.1.18.bb: Make sure mysql-native does a full install in staging as php-native now builds Mar 21 12:17:09 with mysql support Mar 21 12:17:15 furlongm: hmm, don't know anything about that Mar 21 12:18:03 RP: hmm, weird. It was kind of a false alarm. gcc-4.1.2 DOES use the libstdc++ from tmp/cross/... Mar 21 12:18:22 furlongm: no idea Mar 21 12:18:47 RP: it was that my qmake-generated Makefile had -lsupc++ and not -lstdc++ So my real problem is "why does it suddenly need the full stdc++ library?" Mar 21 12:19:56 furlongm: some of the new sysvinit replacement tools have a simular feature set, but AFAIK no one uses them in OE Mar 21 12:20:58 furlongm: i think both init-ng and upstart (which I like better) have features like daemontools ... but then again, I never used daemontools Mar 21 12:22:45 schurig: thanks, neither seem to be in OE though Mar 21 12:23:16 runit claims to be a daemontools/sysvinit replacement -> http://smarden.org/runit/index.html Mar 21 12:23:50 it has inherited the horrible Makefile/shellscript build system from daemontools though Mar 21 12:31:48 koen, any idea if OE will really get some DV boards? Mar 21 12:32:06 florian, what reason could there be to not get a real /dev/fb0 on a AMD Geode ? any ideas ? Mar 21 12:32:35 Crofton|laptop: we'll have to wait for the new DV OSK to get released Mar 21 12:32:53 hmm, when will that happen? Mar 21 12:33:14 rob_w: i can imagine... does the kernel detect any framebuffer devices? Mar 21 12:33:37 a i found that i fucked up defconfig .. now it will work Mar 21 12:33:41 Crofton|laptop: if you want to ask TI about it, send a mail to rishi@ti.com Mar 21 12:33:51 ok Mar 21 12:33:55 Crofton|laptop: You are our omap guy, so you can speak for the OE project :) Mar 21 12:34:01 ok :) Mar 21 12:34:16 I am supposed to get one of these also Mar 21 12:34:45 the DV OSK will be 'low cost' ($1500) Mar 21 12:34:56 http://www.lyrtech.com/DSP-development/dsp_fpga/sffsdrdevelopmentplatform.php Mar 21 12:35:08 low cost is relative .. Mar 21 12:35:09 when I said that isn't 'low cost' in my book rishi said we could get boards sponsored Mar 21 12:35:38 it is kinda strange to have a 300MHz cpu tied to a 600MHz DSP Mar 21 12:35:48 yeah, we deliver tremendous value to them Mar 21 12:35:54 not really Mar 21 12:36:10 hang on ... Mar 21 12:38:08 http://insidedsp.com/ Mar 21 12:38:37 The DVEVM article has some relative CPU numbers during video mucking around Mar 21 12:43:50 * Crofton|laptop looks forward to the day we can charge vendors real money to support their boards Mar 21 12:45:52 hmm still i dont get any fb device .. strange Mar 21 12:46:07 Crofton|laptop: I don't think TI is happy with that article Mar 21 12:46:21 why not? Mar 21 12:46:22 Crofton|laptop: rishi was pretty adamant about the DSP not being a 'black box' Mar 21 12:46:30 "It's not a ASIC!!" Mar 21 12:46:32 I skimmed on a plane yesterday Mar 21 12:46:38 ah Mar 21 12:46:40 ok Mar 21 12:46:50 from the DVEVM point of view it is :) Mar 21 12:47:29 they are trying to sell the codecs as black boxes Mar 21 12:47:42 so the pov of the article is their own fault :) Mar 21 12:47:59 the EVM ships with demo codecs Mar 21 12:48:04 yeah Mar 21 12:48:08 the codecs add watermarks and stuff Mar 21 13:09:20 python has .append() but does it have .remove()? Mar 21 13:09:50 hrw: for? Mar 21 13:10:00 needed[pkg].append(m1.group(1)) Mar 21 13:10:13 I need to remove from needed[pkg] too Mar 21 13:11:22 btw, what's is there any speed/memoryuse differences between bb 1.6.x and 1.8? Mar 21 13:11:26 Hi all and koen, I'm trying to build a angstrom-console-image but it is failing because there is no longer the apt_0.6.46.2.tar.gz in debian repositories... What should I do in this case? add a new apt package to database? or sit and cry? hehehe Mar 21 13:11:36 hey vivijim ! Mar 21 13:11:51 ~lart shlibs code Mar 21 13:11:52 * ibot slaps a compatible dib on shlibs code's head Mar 21 13:12:51 hey koen, I forgot to ask you; did you like the recife summer festival? Mar 21 13:12:54 http://www.mikroe.com/en/tools/unids3/ Mar 21 13:14:05 vivijim: you can get the file from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/apt_0.6.46.2.tar.gz Mar 21 13:14:13 vivijim: the festival was very nice! Mar 21 13:14:22 vivijim: did you go on saterday? Mar 21 13:14:42 koen thanks! Mar 21 13:15:43 kone; yes, i went... It was very nice... there was only beautiful single girls ;) Mar 21 13:16:17 vivijim: and no-one invited me :-D Mar 21 13:17:21 XorA: the girls also immediately went for the 2 white guys (marcel holtmann and me) Mar 21 13:17:50 koen: gah, why am I never at these places Mar 21 13:18:03 koen, where they as good looking as the protestor? Mar 21 13:18:13 Crofton|laptop: yes Mar 21 13:18:15 XorA: hehehe come to brazil! there are a lot of parties like this ;) Mar 21 13:18:26 lucky bugger Mar 21 13:18:44 My friend watched an interview with her (in Portugeuse) many times Mar 21 13:18:53 "To practice his Portugeuse" Mar 21 13:19:59 Crofton|laptop: who is this protestor girl? Mar 21 13:20:15 She was protesting Bush in body paint Mar 21 13:20:41 My friend (who lived in Brazil as a child was obsessed for a few hours Mar 21 13:20:46 Crofton: :) picture ? Mar 21 13:21:20 Koen: Brasil has good looking reachable girls , the Netherlands as ugly unreachable girls :) Mar 21 13:21:23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPGwstb_ODU Mar 21 13:22:07 Crofton: lol Mar 21 13:25:02 hahahahahha I haven't seen this... Very interesting... Mar 21 13:32:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r851b7587... 10/ (1 packages/apt/apt_0.6.46.2.bb packages/apt/files/apt.conf): apt: sync apt.conf with Poky Mar 21 13:42:06 03nail 07org.oe.dev * ra05d88f8... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): openpbx.org: Update to use sox-native to create the sounds when building Mar 21 13:42:10 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r55047ae7... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): sox: Add updated sox and new package sox-native Mar 21 13:42:10 zecke|study, RP, mickey|zzZZzz: http://pastebin.ca/405026 - can you look? Mar 21 13:42:16 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rd8b2a4bd... 10/ (1 packages/sox/sox/src-Makefile.am.patch): sox: Add missing patch Mar 21 13:43:25 Koen small question: "I want to load my image into the ramdisk how does that go ?" Mar 21 13:43:32 hi gerwinin Mar 21 13:43:37 hrw: hey Mar 21 13:43:42 hrw: blackinglisting shlibs? Mar 21 13:43:52 hrw: for dates/mozilla/etc ? Mar 21 13:44:21 gerwinin: usually the bootloader takes care of that Mar 21 13:44:26 * koen <- ramdisk n00b Mar 21 13:44:41 Koen: would grub be able to do such a thing ? Mar 21 13:44:46 koen: if package consist library then it does not have to depend on it Mar 21 13:46:08 hrw: ah, even better Mar 21 13:47:48 14:40 hrw@home:openmoko$ dpkg-deb -I tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/dates_0.3.1-r1_armv4t.ipk |grep openm Replaces: openmoko-dates Conflicts: openmoko-dates Mar 21 13:54:33 gerwinin: are you talking about initramfs? I did something similar yesterday Mar 21 13:55:38 hrw: cool Mar 21 13:55:45 hrw: why do we need not needed? Mar 21 13:57:08 zecke|study: for packages which provide libraries inside of package. now dates contain same lib as openmoko-dates (both conflicts each other) Mar 21 13:57:38 zecke|study: if I build dates, then openmoko-dates I will get openmoko-dates depending on dates because both packages provide libgtkdatesview.so Mar 21 13:58:22 hrw: so why is libgtkdatesview.so inside FILES of -dates? Mar 21 13:58:23 zecke|study: dates rconflicts openmoko-dates (and vice versa) so user will not install both on device Mar 21 13:58:47 hmm, okay Mar 21 13:58:51 zecke|study: beause this is internal lib of (openmoko-)dates which is build related Mar 21 13:59:08 zecke|study: all mozilla stuff suffers from the same :( Mar 21 13:59:14 no warranty that dates will work with libgtkdatesview.so from openmoko-dates Mar 21 14:03:15 zecke|study: what do you think about it? Mar 21 14:03:52 hmm, let me think Mar 21 14:06:48 hrw: fix upstream to properly name their libaries :) Mar 21 14:08:16 hrw: mozilla can be fixed as libns* can all be seperated from apps, then built as a dependancy of apps Mar 21 14:08:33 hrw: but I am sick of messing with mozilla builds with no joy due to the crapness of mozilla code Mar 21 14:08:46 hrw: print notneeded for me in case of openmoko-dates Mar 21 14:09:01 hrw: I wonder what m.group(1) really contains and if it needs to be per package Mar 21 14:11:31 zecke|study: code is same for both packages but can differ internally due to misc frameworks (gtk, hildon, openmoko) Mar 21 14:12:39 hrw: a) make it a static library b) properly prefix the library name... Mar 21 14:12:48 hrw: but how does notneeded look like in the dates case? Mar 21 14:14:09 it contain libgtkdatesview for dates Mar 21 14:15:03 hrw: { 'dates' : 'libgtkdatesview' } then? Mar 21 14:15:14 g_type_check_instance_cast segfaults at me .. any idea when this happens ? Mar 21 14:15:26 hrw: and for moko-dates { 'moko-dates' : 'libgtkdatesview' ? Mar 21 14:15:37 Jin~eLD: yes Mar 21 14:15:48 Is the website up? Mar 21 14:15:56 {'dates': ['libgtkdatesview.so.0'], 'dates-locale-et': [], 'dates-dbg': [], 'dates-locale-nl': [], 'dates-doc': [], 'dates-dev': [], 'dates-locale-fr': []} Mar 21 14:16:04 gerwinin: I found some approaches, described here: http://www.timesys.com/timesource/initramfs.htm Mar 21 14:16:31 the one that worked for me was, pointing CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE to the directory that is supposed to be my ramfs, and rebuilding the kernel Mar 21 14:17:02 the difficulty for me was, that I needed it all to be inside a uboot image, if you do not need it you could probably have an easier life with the initrd mechanism Mar 21 14:17:16 {'openmoko-dates-locale-nl': [], 'openmoko-dates-dev': [], 'openmoko-dates-doc': [], 'openmoko-dates-locale-ru': [], 'openmoko-dates': ['libgtkdatesview.so.0'], 'openmoko-dates-locale-fr': [], 'openmoko-dates-locale-et': [], 'openmoko-dates-dbg': []} Mar 21 14:19:03 hmm, I wonder if we want that Mar 21 14:19:29 the effect of not needed is what? Mar 21 14:19:40 zecke|study: s/notneeded/selfprovides Mar 21 14:20:20 hrw: so no output for shlib should be generated?! Mar 21 14:20:48 zecke|study: not for shlibs which are inside of package Mar 21 14:21:31 hrw: No shlib code if at least one other binary is installed? Mar 21 14:21:56 okay we should already see that no shlib provider is defined for xyz... Mar 21 14:22:54 zecke|study: I'm now rebuilding to check oen thing Mar 21 14:29:24 zecke|study: this code does not block creating shlibs files Mar 21 14:29:29 morning Mar 21 14:29:38 hrw: you should block it then Mar 21 14:29:52 hrw: if it is a private, local lib it should not be referenced by others Mar 21 14:30:35 zecke|study: what do you think about PRIVATE_LIBS = "libgtkdatesview" in recipes? Mar 21 14:31:27 hrw: upstream wise I wonder why this library is necessary, not a static lib and why it is not suffixed with -hildon, -moko, -plain Mar 21 14:39:17 zecke|study: can we implement hrw's measure first and improve it later? Mar 21 14:42:17 no :) Mar 21 14:42:52 s/notneeded/bettername/ Mar 21 14:43:03 21 15:25 < hrw> zecke|study: s/notneeded/selfprovides Mar 21 14:43:18 internallibs, privatelibs Mar 21 14:43:31 RP agreeded already to selfprovides Mar 21 14:43:41 14:53 Mar 21 14:43:43 ยป hrw: Yes, thats better Mar 21 14:44:00 hrw: the time is wrong, you betray us Mar 21 14:44:30 hrw: okay, but these private libs should be removed from writing to shlibs Mar 21 14:44:59 zecke|study: so we will have to add PRIVATE_LIBS variable into recipes Mar 21 14:45:25 hrw: and you should make sure that OE still prints library names where it doesn't know which package they belong to Mar 21 14:46:04 hrw: does apt build for you? Mar 21 14:46:16 NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libXau.so.6 Mar 21 14:46:22 zecke|study: those ones? Mar 21 14:46:36 koen: started build Mar 21 14:46:48 NOTE: package apt-0.6.46.4-r0: task do_configure: started Mar 21 14:47:27 yes Mar 21 14:48:04 hmm later Mar 21 14:48:08 zecke|study: I did not touch that part Mar 21 14:48:19 make sure it still works Mar 21 14:48:25 sure Mar 21 14:48:34 e.g. write another bb file that links to gtkdatesview Mar 21 14:50:11 hrw: eval `cat environment.mak | grep ^GLIBC_VER | sed -e's, = ,=,'` oe_libinstall -so -C bin libapt-pkg$GLIBC_VER-6 ${D}${libdir}/ Mar 21 14:50:18 gtkdatesview is not used outside of dates Mar 21 14:50:30 hrw: that fails for me, since apt only builds static libs and GLIBCVER returns '-' Mar 21 14:51:08 same looks here Mar 21 14:51:40 koen: angstrom has libgcc-s1 ;( Mar 21 14:51:49 hrw: mtn up Mar 21 14:52:08 koen: feeds Mar 21 14:52:14 ah, hmm Mar 21 14:52:14 koen: abiword or gnumeric Mar 21 14:52:27 grrrr Mar 21 14:55:36 whats up with abiword/gnumeric? Mar 21 14:55:49 built with a broken toolchain Mar 21 14:55:59 so they depend on libgcc_s1 instead of libgcc1 Mar 21 14:56:33 hrw: well this is why you should write an artificial bb file that links to gtkdatesview Mar 21 14:57:15 hrw: just for testing, and once we don't emit shlibs for private libs you can test again Mar 21 15:06:37 Koen: If I want to add a programm I made myself to oe where do I need to send it ? Mar 21 15:06:52 bugtracker Mar 21 15:07:18 hrw : thanks :) Mar 21 15:15:02 CosmicPenguin: good morning Mar 21 15:22:16 ~curse python Mar 21 15:22:18 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, python ! Mar 21 15:25:15 could be worse it could be reincarnated as a vista driver :) Mar 21 15:27:13 or even a vista user :( Mar 21 15:27:41 ooh Mar 21 15:27:47 scary images Mar 21 15:28:12 python can be helpful even with winxp administration, sure Mar 21 15:37:06 hi all Mar 21 16:02:50 cu Mar 21 16:06:24 mr_nice: hey, I just saw you keep patches on sourceforge. It would be appreciated if you could keep them unzipped :) Mar 21 16:06:40 mr_nice: I'm such a web-browser guy and would like to view these things inline Mar 21 16:07:01 mr_nice: diff's between patches are more easy to see and my builtin gunzip is pretty bad Mar 21 16:12:43 zecke|study: ok I will change it especially for you now :) Mar 21 16:14:45 :) Mar 21 16:14:47 wonderful Mar 21 16:17:38 zecke|study: ok things are changed. the mq200 driver does not include the lcd and backlight changes from mrdata. I will add them today or tomorrow. but the bug patch is included Mar 21 16:18:46 I hate svn... Mar 21 16:20:24 zecke|study: hm, sf.net has only cvs and svs so i thought svn is the better choice? Mar 21 16:21:12 mr_nice: this was unrelated :) Mar 21 16:21:20 we can not import data as something is stuck... Mar 21 16:26:36 zecke|study: ah, ok. mrdata is on the apm problem. I am now on the button driver. after this and sysfsdriver for the cs3 latch I think the kernel is where 2.4 was. Mar 21 16:29:55 -button + powerbutton Mar 21 16:31:11 good afternoon all Mar 21 16:39:11 hi Mar 21 16:40:53 koen : remember i told you yesterday about the soft_float problem. I added -msoft-float to the dht-wlanut machine config, did a clean build and it worked (packages were build with soft-float) Mar 21 16:41:09 koen : tested that by removing float emulation from the kernel Mar 21 16:41:16 Ifaistos: cool Mar 21 16:41:59 ~lart svn Mar 21 16:42:00 * ibot takes a big bite out of svn's jugular vein Mar 21 16:42:50 koen : well.... its semi-cool :) it means that just setting TARGET_FPU="soft_float" does not guarantee that your apps will be build with soft-float, only the toolchain (or at least this is what i understood) Mar 21 16:43:34 bitbake 1.9 takes some getting used to Mar 21 16:43:44 s/TARRGET_FPU="soft" Mar 21 16:43:52 Ifaistos: but the default spec should be soft float as well Mar 21 16:44:00 Ifaistos: check with gcc --spec or such Mar 21 16:44:10 OMFG this can be real http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/6_to_8_Weeks_If_You_0x27_re_Lucky.aspx Mar 21 16:44:52 scan/can't Mar 21 16:46:13 zecke|study : Not sure what gcc --spec is, but i was under the impression that when specified apps should be forced to compile with soft-float and this can was not the case as i found out Mar 21 16:46:18 Should we change getting started to refer to bitbake 1.8 via svn? Mar 21 16:46:59 Ifaistos: from my understanding the spec contains the default values for the compiler Mar 21 16:47:16 hrw|gone: I'm rebuilding victims of libgcc-s1 right now Mar 21 16:47:23 Ifaistos: -dumpspecs Mar 21 16:49:03 zecke|study : will re-check later, and report on that. Mar 21 16:56:58 i have started regression testing, -> http://rafb.net/p/PXmwaY98.html will let it go on for 12 hours Mar 21 16:57:08 check you mail tommorow Mar 21 16:57:21 opsss wrong channel Mar 21 16:57:27 sorry guys Mar 21 17:27:55 Hello Mar 21 17:33:41 koen: make a sprint! Mar 21 17:35:25 zecke|study: for what? Mar 21 17:36:33 koen: for doing monemumtal things Mar 21 17:36:59 zecke|study: do my assignments and/or pay me :) Mar 21 17:37:18 koen: I might have sex with your supervisors :} Mar 21 17:37:34 heh Mar 21 17:37:41 * zecke feels sick and goes home early Mar 21 17:39:43 * philippe questions zecke's sanity after the statement about koens supervisors Mar 21 17:40:45 * Kristoffer questions zecke's supervisors Mar 21 17:41:28 * chouimat just hopes the supervisors are females (this is for me) and cutes Mar 21 17:42:09 * mwester is glad to not be a supervisor Mar 21 17:42:16 hehe Mar 21 17:42:40 http://despair.com/effort.html Mar 21 17:43:08 hehehe! Mar 21 17:43:43 those demotivators are fantastic. great idea. Mar 21 17:47:43 Im not fully aware of the percentual frequency of good looking female supervisors in the computer industry? Mar 21 17:48:12 Kristoffer: .5%? Mar 21 17:48:34 enough cute PHD students from china over here Mar 21 17:49:09 ewww PhD ;) Mar 21 17:51:10 uh, you'll need to befriend the marketing people if you want cute, i'm afraid. Mar 21 17:51:26 but this is not a bad thing. they tend to be fun. Mar 21 17:51:36 :D Mar 21 17:58:18 darn meta-toolchain is still giving me a headache :( Mar 21 18:02:01 it has task-sdk-bare in TARGET_INSTALL, which is supposed to pull packages from deploy/ipk/${TARGET_ARCH}/ Mar 21 18:02:09 ask-sdk-bare is found in that diesctory... fine. Mar 21 18:02:36 but RDEPENDS_task-sdk-bare = glibc, glibc-dev, libgcc1 Mar 21 18:02:52 libgcc1 seems to be in ipk/HOST_ARCH Mar 21 18:03:04 not in ipk/TARGET_ARCH, where it is expected Mar 21 18:04:36 and glibc and glibc-dev are not found anywhere Mar 21 18:05:39 didn't OE rename that to libc6 and libc6-dev? Mar 21 18:06:15 koen: quite possibly... since I have: Mar 21 18:06:16 tmp-stc/deploy/ipk/i586/libc6_2.5-r5_i586.ipk Mar 21 18:06:16 tmp-stc/deploy/ipk/i586/libc6-dev_2.5-r5_i586.ipk Mar 21 18:07:44 so glibc and glibc-dev is invalid for RDEPENDS Mar 21 18:08:02 is that renaming a new thing? This used to work until I upgraded my checkout today Mar 21 18:08:55 renaming has been present since OE's creation Mar 21 18:09:19 RP had a remarkt about when it fails a while ago Mar 21 18:09:30 but AFAIK putting it in RDEPENDS should work Mar 21 18:09:33 right... but it is OK to use the name glibc and glibc-dev in RDEPENDS Mar 21 18:09:41 koen: yes... I know about that problem Mar 21 18:09:52 that is a problem when creating images Mar 21 18:10:24 yes... and it does work. It's not tripping up on the glibc ones... It's tripping up on libgcc1 Mar 21 18:10:45 which is not present in ipk/TARGET_ARCH (it's in ipk/HOST_ARCH instead) Mar 21 18:11:01 hmmm Mar 21 18:11:09 could you try building gcc (non-cross)? Mar 21 18:11:30 koen: I can. and I would expect that would fix the problem Mar 21 18:11:53 but gcc (non-cross) shouldn't have to be built to build an sdk should it? Mar 21 18:12:00 it shouldn't Mar 21 18:12:50 presumably, it should be cgg-cross-sdk that puts libgcc1 in ipk/TARGET_ARCH Mar 21 18:14:11 actually, thinking about it. When I had this working before, I was using a different toolchain - gcc 3.4.4, rather than what I'm using now, which is gcc-4.1.1 Mar 21 18:15:42 the only difference I can see between the two versions of gcc-cross-sdk is the positioning of the require statements Mar 21 18:15:48 both should be using gcc-package(-cross).inc Mar 21 18:15:58 ah, that might be it Mar 21 18:16:30 3.4.4 does require gcc_${PV}.bb right at the top Mar 21 18:16:41 where as 4.1.1 does it after PACKAGES = "${PN}" Mar 21 18:16:57 but both do require gcc-package-sdk.inc as the very last thing Mar 21 18:17:32 oh... package-cross... hmm, where does that get pulled in Mar 21 18:19:58 koen: should this missing package in ipk/TARGET_ARCH be comming from gcc-cross-sdk, or gcc-cross? Mar 21 18:20:17 tkp: I'm not sure Mar 21 18:20:30 I see that tzdata RCONFLICTS with timezones now. Can tzdata provide timezones so a distro can PREFERRED_PROVIDER_timezones = "tzdata" ? Mar 21 18:20:33 gcc-cross should be generating it regardless Mar 21 18:20:57 apaulsen: I think we can delete timezones Mar 21 18:21:27 gcc-cross did not even get built... only gcc-cross-initial and gcc-cross-sdk Mar 21 18:21:39 ok, I just noticed that my gpe-image was failing because it was including timezones and I was trying to include tzdata. Mar 21 18:23:49 apaulsen: yeah, it's a mess right now Mar 21 18:24:37 koen|away: ok, I rigged my local copy up like I just described and it will work for now. I'll wait for the dust to settle :) Mar 21 18:38:25 koen: Do you know what the .tab files in tzdata are used for? It dosn't look like they are getting packaged right now, even tho we RCONFLICT them Mar 21 18:39:09 hvontres|poodle: I have no idea Mar 21 18:39:19 I just removed some hardcoded stuff from the .bb Mar 21 18:40:41 koen: ok. Mar 21 18:55:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb253d9db... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer gtk 2.10.10 Mar 21 19:02:55 yay! Mar 21 19:03:14 they skipped the nazi-aliens-from-the-future season of enterprise Mar 21 19:05:10 zecke: feeling better? Mar 21 19:05:43 no, but I want to commit the rss reader :) Mar 21 19:09:52 03Cyril 07org.oe.dev * rbb5d6628... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): prismstumbler: bug #1679, fix inclusion of host headers and incorrect ranlib and ar calls, thanks to Cyril Romain Mar 21 19:10:01 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r34962ef3... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): prismstumbler: add missing crosscompile.patch, made a few additions to Makefile.arm to patch in bug #1679 Mar 21 19:10:03 koen hmmm? Mar 21 19:10:20 chouimat: the tv station went straight to season 4 from season 2 Mar 21 19:10:39 koen ok .. they skipped the xindy Mar 21 19:11:02 no, did have those Mar 21 19:11:18 just not the WW2 with aliens crap Mar 21 19:11:52 koen the xindy is season 3 ... that ww2 thing is one of my favorite part Mar 21 19:12:13 it's insane Mar 21 19:12:40 koen I bet time traveling will do some weird stuff to you ;) Mar 21 19:13:09 like fire all the script writers and asking your 5 year old nephew to do the script Mar 21 19:14:16 koen: hehe... or fire all the script writers and wind up with a bunch of "reality" shows....:( Mar 21 19:20:00 Perhaps I should ask this in the openzaurus channel, but as it says it's an user discussion/support... Mar 21 19:20:22 I'm also reading in the topic "without more developers there will be no new release" Mar 21 19:20:32 So, there are no plans for 3.5.5 ? Mar 21 19:21:40 Or is everybody working in angstrom? Mar 21 19:21:44 hi everyone Mar 21 19:22:41 hey likewise Mar 21 19:22:55 likewise: sorry for not answering your email, I read it at the airport Mar 21 19:23:04 hey koen, how's life and such? Mar 21 19:23:24 koen: np, cannot even remember what the mail was about Mar 21 19:23:45 likewise: life is cold, returning from a warm country Mar 21 19:23:50 hey all, hiving touble working with sqlite and glibc on the x86 platform(possibly involves gcc as well). Mar 21 19:23:56 back to the uni lab fulltime Mar 21 19:24:01 sirfred: I think hrw started a oz-3.5.5 conf file, but he's kinda busy right now. aside form him there is only Xora and me working on stuff, and I am kind of a newby at this stuff. Mar 21 19:24:12 sirfred: so feel free to pitch in :) Mar 21 19:24:28 hvontres|poodle: I'd like to help. Mar 21 19:24:28 use angstrom :) Mar 21 19:24:33 koen: home sweet home Mar 21 19:24:37 koen: :) Mar 21 19:24:40 SirManiac: which kind of trouble? Mar 21 19:24:44 tnb: You did the original tzdata.bb right ? Mar 21 19:24:56 just a sec, looking for actual error Mar 21 19:25:00 koen: What is current angstrom state? Mar 21 19:25:06 koen: Usable on c7x0 ? Mar 21 19:25:09 hvontres|poodle: yes Mar 21 19:25:10 it builds and works Mar 21 19:25:15 SirManiac: use pastebin.ca Mar 21 19:25:15 needs some polish Mar 21 19:25:21 undefined reference to `_dl_tls_get_addr_soft@GLIBC_PRIVATE' Mar 21 19:25:49 tnb: Do you know what the .tab files are used for in zoneinfo? I noticed that tzdata does not package them right now Mar 21 19:26:00 SirManiac: can you post the whole thing to pastebin.ca? Mar 21 19:26:02 this happens when compiling sqllite, it seems to involve tls Mar 21 19:26:07 ok, will do Mar 21 19:26:17 hvontres|poodle: Fist problem I've found is that it seems that the SRCDATE for qemu-qop-nogfx-native is not locked, and patches don't apply correctly. Mar 21 19:26:38 hvontres|poodle: But I'm also a newbie at these things, perhaps I'm confused. Mar 21 19:26:59 http://pastebin.ca/405459 Mar 21 19:27:16 sirfred: which tree are you building against? 3.5.5 currently uses the .dev tree Mar 21 19:27:18 hvontres|poodle: I don't, sorry Mar 21 19:27:23 hvontres|poodle: .dev, yes. Mar 21 19:27:46 tnb: ok. google dosn't seem to know either :) Mar 21 19:27:49 koen: Is there any periodic release scheme projected for angstrom ? Mar 21 19:28:14 sirfred: feel free to sign up as a dev over on projects.linuxtogo.org :) Mar 21 19:28:30 chris144: I've noticed that glibc inst't being configured to use tls, and neither does gcc seem to be Mar 21 19:28:35 hvontres|poodle: What are the requisites to commit and so? Mar 21 19:28:50 sirfred: so far I have just been trying to get a 2.6.20 bootstrap image working on poodle Mar 21 19:29:22 SirManiac: GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-tls" might work, you need to rebuild glibc though Mar 21 19:29:58 chris144: one thing I haven't tried yet, is this proper for angstrom? Mar 21 19:30:44 SirManiac: that I cannot tell. I am using openembedded on custom X86 PC104 CPU boards, it works there... Mar 21 19:31:02 chris144: ok, thanks Mar 21 19:31:08 SirManiac: np Mar 21 19:31:48 sirfred: do you have comit access to regular OE stuff? Mar 21 19:31:55 sirfred: not yet, everybody is pretty busy right now Mar 21 19:32:02 hvontres|poodle: No. Mar 21 19:32:33 sirfred: otherwise file bugs in bugzilla and pester the regulars :) Mar 21 19:33:08 hvontres|poodle: The problem is that it seems that people is very busy to handle all bugs Mar 21 19:33:23 sirfred: file enough good patches and they might even give you rw privs. Mar 21 19:34:19 * hvontres|poodle is still FAR away from that. Mar 21 19:34:50 * sirfred is behind hvontres|poodle Mar 21 19:35:54 sirfred: I dunno, you did a bunch of cool stuff with RP on w100. I have only fixed a couple of minor things so far Mar 21 19:36:47 sirfred: plus, while they might be busy, the appreciate fixed bugs even more :) Mar 21 19:37:28 hvontres|poodle: Yes, I will try to help with 3.5.5 Mar 21 19:37:47 sirfred: yay :) Mar 21 19:37:48 hvontres|poodle: So, it's only hrw, XorA and you that are working on this? Mar 21 19:38:59 sirfred: I think Legwie is also signed up: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/openzaurus/ Mar 21 19:39:33 hvontres|poodle: I'm going to sign Mar 21 19:39:42 sirfred: time for lunch. I'll be back in 30 Mar 21 19:40:00 sirfred: thanks :) Mar 21 19:40:07 hvontres|poodle: To you. :) Mar 21 19:40:55 Curious, I can register using 'Latin' as my language. Mar 21 20:01:00 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rf6bf45b3... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/libgnomeui_2.16.1.bb): libsgnomeui: make 2.16.1 not preferred by default Mar 21 20:02:15 <_law_> is bitbake1.8.0 already recommend? Mar 21 20:04:07 for the efika, when I put a USB card in the PCI slot, should the "back" of the card (with the output connectors) face the back off the efika (with the connectors) Mar 21 20:04:22 I ask, because my usb card goes in both ways .... Mar 21 20:05:48 Crofton: yes Mar 21 20:06:02 likewise, hi! Mar 21 20:06:24 I figured that, but since I'v already killed one EFIKA, I figured I should ask Mar 21 20:06:28 Crofton: hi, yes brackets should face the same side. Mar 21 20:06:47 Crofton: do you know what bricked out? Mar 21 20:07:00 makes sense, I am wondering if I killed the board by having the USB card reversed Mar 21 20:07:07 the entire card Mar 21 20:07:14 nothing on the serial port Mar 21 20:07:55 Crofton: hard to tell, there are some pins that are shortcircuit within PCI (PRSN# pins), I wonder if the PCI guys made it (fail|fool)safe for those universal cards Mar 21 20:08:25 In a normal case, it is impossible to reverse the card Mar 21 20:08:28 Crofton: you have no clue what caused the brickening (sic) itself? Mar 21 20:08:53 I can only thinnk wobbly USB card, or reversed USB card Mar 21 20:15:14 has anyone created a pcmcia stab file using pcmcia-utils? mreimer had a good suggestion of using udev to do so. Qtopia relies pretty heavily on stab. Mar 21 20:30:09 'evening all Mar 21 20:32:25 cyrilRomain: good evening Mar 21 20:32:39 JustinP: about bug 1679, I'm quite surprised prismstumbler needs a motif header (isn't motif considered as a deprecated ?) Mar 21 20:32:42 hi likewise Mar 21 20:33:29 JustinP: but I found a new release http://projects.linuxtogo.org/frs/?group_id=6&release_id=10, where build system has been updated, and which seems to not depend on motif anymore Mar 21 20:34:46 JustinP: so I guess one should add this new version to oe. Maybe should it be asked to florian ? Mar 21 20:36:21 * cyrilRomain think he'd rather submit new recipe version instead of fixing old packages ... Mar 21 20:36:59 koen, ping? Mar 21 20:37:00 but maybe is there a good reason for the new version not being in metadata Mar 21 20:37:47 zecke: hi, do you remember the general gpio0 class you mentioned me? were can I find it? Mar 21 20:39:32 hmm, does anyone tried building lastest qemu with this gcc 4.x patch http://www.kju-app.org/proj/browser/trunk/patches/qemu-0.9.0-gcc4.patch ? Mar 21 20:39:43 mr_nice: wait a second Mar 21 20:40:11 zecke: thx Mar 21 20:41:48 Crofton: pong Mar 21 20:42:05 rishi @ ti.com? Mar 21 20:42:23 correct Mar 21 20:42:37 mr_nice: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/input/keyboard/gpio_keys.c;h=ccf6df387b62d88e64790c3622202d0b296c21e3;hb=49015bee4071d56456ef59f1f82be6531615341c Mar 21 20:42:52 mr_nice: you just need to set platform_data Mar 21 20:42:56 Crofton: Rishi Bhattacharya in full Mar 21 20:43:13 rishi for short :) Mar 21 20:43:29 cyrilRomain: I use Gentoo and switch my compiler from 4 to 3 when compiling qemu-native, then back to 4. ;-) Mar 21 20:43:34 zecke: thx! Mar 21 20:43:51 JustinP: which I do too, but I feel fed up switching :) Mar 21 20:44:01 cyrilRomain: as for prismstumbler it seems like a good idea to update to the newest version but I've never even used the program so I'm not sure I should necessarily be doing that... Mar 21 20:44:16 cyrilRomain: if you'd like to try the new version I'd appreciate it Mar 21 20:44:23 JustinP: I usually build angstrom, fix bug I encounter, and start again from scratch until more bugs are killed Mar 21 20:44:32 morning Mar 21 20:44:52 mr_nice: two things: Implement something like http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/gpio.h;h=aeba24347f8e43355619711b3a4f10e4ec0a8c4d;hb=HEAD this for strongARM (this looks really easy) Mar 21 20:44:53 cyrilRomain: I tend to fix the bug and just continue. I used to start again from scratch a lot but not too much lately Mar 21 20:45:05 mr_nice: then set platform data and compile the generic driver into the kernel Mar 21 20:45:08 JustinP: I nerver used prismstumbler too (and probably will never since my needs) Mar 21 20:45:32 cyrilRomain: :-/ If florian is the "MMAINTAINER" for it then we should probably ask him Mar 21 20:45:40 JustinP: yes Mar 21 20:45:51 cyrilRomain: you could try adding it and see if it compiles at least. Then we could add it with DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" Mar 21 20:46:13 zecke: cool Mar 21 20:46:15 JustinP: yes. I'll give it a try Mar 21 20:46:22 cyrilRomain: thanks :-) Mar 21 20:49:04 JustinP: hmm, I guess florian have already created a .bb locally. I'll ask him before. Mar 21 20:49:35 *nod* Mar 21 21:01:38 zecke, I don't know if you remember me, but.. Mar 21 21:02:05 i followed your advise and used parallells on os x to compile oe, and it went through Mar 21 21:02:15 flawlessly. Mar 21 21:02:22 thanks, Mar 21 21:02:32 dave_c: so now it is time to fix the native osx build :) Mar 21 21:02:59 i still can't figure out what goes wrong Mar 21 21:04:20 zecke: a little bird told me mickeyl is getting a mac pro ;) Mar 21 21:04:37 dave_c: if you have enough GNU utils installed you should be able to build a cross compiler :} Mar 21 21:04:53 ok Mar 21 21:05:14 make sure the fs you do it in is case sensitive too. Mar 21 21:05:27 i think I have enough gnu utils, and my fs is case sensitive Mar 21 21:05:33 right, or build inside a case sensitive dmg Mar 21 21:05:43 i pretty much compile most of my linux stuff from src on os x Mar 21 21:05:52 ~lart file vault for not working with case-sensitive fs's Mar 21 21:05:53 * ibot takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays file vault in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed for not working with case-sensitive fs's Mar 21 21:06:03 dont install a mac on UFS btw if you like things working properly Mar 21 21:06:07 :) Mar 21 21:06:45 dave_c: where did it fail? e.g. quilt-native needs GNU sed installed Mar 21 21:06:56 sed is installed Mar 21 21:08:03 ever since things worked outed on knoppix inside parallels, i erased the os x srcs Mar 21 21:08:11 * JustinP should try OE on OS X Mar 21 21:08:21 my macbook is motsly a remote client :) Mar 21 21:08:42 I use apple mail to annoy koen and to 'emulate' JustinP :) Mar 21 21:08:53 i honestly don't am amazed that I was able to compile oe inside the vm Mar 21 21:08:54 I'm not a Mac fanboy at all Mar 21 21:08:59 I just happen to have one for work now Mar 21 21:09:06 I mostly use it as a terminal for non-work stuff ;-) Mar 21 21:10:11 i was compiling opendream-1.4 image Mar 21 21:10:27 the whole thing took about ~12 hours Mar 21 21:10:49 and both the vm and the host were solid and stable Mar 21 21:10:56 amazing Mar 21 21:11:23 good night Mar 21 21:14:31 * CoreDump|home wonders why SRCDATE = "now" is ignored on his system Mar 21 21:15:14 * likewise should also try ((OE on) OS X on) an Apple. Mar 21 21:15:53 likewise: poke your davinci engineers Mar 21 21:16:06 likewise: TI is opening up quite some sources the next months Mar 21 21:16:25 likewise: still no word on proper HD framebuffers Mar 21 21:16:52 koen: remove the last s from that sentence, we are getting cairo on HDTV alive now, no engineers left Mar 21 21:17:07 koen: thanks for inquiring! Mar 21 21:17:42 using ixp or ppc boards? Mar 21 21:24:55 Does anyone know if matchbox reports window size differently than other window managers since everything runs full screen? I'm trying to get some of the newer java/classpath stuff working in OE but the classpath/Swing/gtk/cairo/matchbox/kdrive combination results in everything thinking the window size is zero and nothing get drawn. Mar 21 21:27:53 re Mar 21 21:29:05 hi all, is there any easy way to sync 3 monotone repositories without commit to monotone.openembedded.org? I really don't want to commit anything to official repository yet, because I'm just playing with some files trying to create my own distro... Mar 21 21:29:33 I think you can push/pull within your own repos Mar 21 21:31:27 vivijim: as croften says, run mtn server yourself and sync with yourself, insructions are on monotone webpage Mar 21 21:32:18 uhm, thanks, I'll try it... I'm completely newbi with monotone... Mar 21 21:32:51 vivijim: Then how did you end up with 3 repos? :-) Mar 21 21:34:38 likewise: actually they are 3 local OE... in 3 machines: my notebook, my desktop and a friend's desktop... Mar 21 21:35:40 vivijim: ah, ok, good luck. Mar 21 21:36:27 hehehe tanks Mar 21 21:37:36 vivijim, you do not have push access to main repo? Mar 21 21:38:12 you should be able to setup your repos so you can push/pull amongst them, and only pull from main oe repo Mar 21 21:38:37 it should be easy, as long as you do not have local mods to files in main repo Mar 21 21:40:23 I don't have this access yet... and I don't want to pussh to main repo because it is experimental yet... I'll try to create my own repo for internal use only just for a while... when it becomes stable I'll try to get the access to main repo and add my distro... Mar 21 21:40:56 vivijim, try push/pull between the three servers then Mar 21 21:41:38 vivijim: If you don't have write access, atleast you can't break anything ;) Mar 21 21:43:30 hi florian ! got my mail :) ? Mar 21 21:44:04 cyrilRomain: yes, but didn't manage to answer yet. Mar 21 21:44:15 florian: ok np :) Mar 21 21:44:59 NAiL: hi! Mar 21 21:45:01 cyrilRomain: basically yes, it might be necessary gpe-aerial as well but it would be a good idea to get rid of the old crappy build stuff. Mar 21 21:45:43 likewise: hi Mar 21 21:46:17 ! :) Mar 21 21:47:15 :-) <---- Mar 21 21:47:21 hehe Mar 21 21:47:37 you still using that ts for non-hacking-purposes? Mar 21 21:49:05 NAiL: yes... Mar 21 21:49:10 shame ;) Mar 21 21:49:25 NAiL: still waiting for a Freescale dev board to become available (MPC8313) Mar 21 21:49:30 ah Mar 21 21:49:44 basically the same cpu, innit? Mar 21 21:50:00 just more features? :) Mar 21 21:50:06 NAiL: newer, but scaled down I guess. Mar 21 21:50:24 ok Mar 21 21:50:31 Not quite into freescale stuff yet Mar 21 21:50:40 only got one ppc board, and it's dead :P Mar 21 21:50:50 TS has a MPC8243 I think, and then there is the MPC83* series with 43 and 13 Mar 21 21:51:04 NAiL: EFIKA?? Mar 21 21:51:05 ts has mpc8241 Mar 21 21:51:18 NAiL: Ah, close Mar 21 21:51:18 no, my only ppc board is the ts ;) Mar 21 21:51:26 darn, you bricked it? Mar 21 21:51:31 yup Mar 21 21:51:45 and unfortunately, I have the newer rev pcb, that doesn't have JTAG Mar 21 21:51:49 (apparently not AT ALL) Mar 21 21:51:50 NAiL: really too bad. Mar 21 21:52:14 Still a little bit hope left though, if I can find someone that can flash a chip Mar 21 21:52:20 NAiL: uh oh, desolder the Flash?? Mar 21 21:52:23 yeah Mar 21 21:52:31 with proper equipment, it ain't that bad Mar 21 21:52:35 what part? Mar 21 21:52:38 the worst part is getting it off Mar 21 21:53:03 NAiL: with the proper equipment and person, even that is easy :-) Mar 21 21:53:03 the flash? It's a 56pin 128mbit TSOP. Mar 21 21:53:34 0.25mm pins according to my digital calipers Mar 21 21:53:47 NAiL: that should be easy. And it is not very hard to solder back on Mar 21 21:54:05 no, soldering it on isn't as hard as getting it off Mar 21 21:54:11 (without damaging the board) Mar 21 21:54:19 NAiL: hmm, and what about some PPC/BDM connector instead of JTAG? Mar 21 21:54:33 Of course, using an x-acto knife to cut of the legs would make it easier... Mar 21 21:54:34 NAiL: if you have one of those hot air desolder things it should come off easily Mar 21 21:54:40 likewise: PPC/BDM? Mar 21 21:54:55 morning hillct Mar 21 21:54:56 Background Debugging Module (PowerPC specific interface, bit like JTAG) Mar 21 21:55:14 hmm... How can I figure out that? Mar 21 21:55:22 good evening NAiL ;) Mar 21 21:55:39 NAiL: Google for "mpc8241 bdm" Mar 21 21:59:05 NAiL: cannot help you on the details for that specific processor, but most debugger dongles support BDM (besides JTAG) Mar 21 21:59:29 NAiL: That's the way I brought up the PPC860 and the Coldfire 5349 Mar 21 22:01:23 What's a more graphical tool for 3-way merge? I have meld installed, but get: WARNING: 'vim' was choosen to perform external 3-way merge. Mar 21 22:02:44 likewise: well, what pins does bdm need to connect to? Mar 21 22:03:00 NAiL: on the proc? Mar 21 22:04:36 likewise: yeah Mar 21 22:05:15 NAiL: sorry, dunno for the mpc82xx Mar 21 22:11:23 good nite Mar 21 22:13:16 hvontres|poodle: I was able to build qemu-qop-nogfx-native setting SRCDATE_qemu-qop-nogfx-native = "20060723", but perhaps it should be locked in the distro conf. Mar 21 22:20:19 NIght Mar 21 22:24:34 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r521eea48... 10/ (1 packages/monotone/monotone-6_0.33.bb): monotone-6: Add '-f' to rm, incase the file isn't there. Mar 21 22:30:15 wow, never saw saw a greater moron than him Mar 21 22:30:53 chouimat: who are you talking about/to? Mar 21 22:31:44 NAiL: my favorite developer (3rd post) http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=9101 Mar 21 22:31:57 NAiL: it's his idea of user support Mar 21 22:32:54 NAiL: shouldn't be monotone-6 be fixed with that patch instead ? http://rafb.net/p/GTuF1X67.html Mar 21 22:33:30 cyrilRomain: looking Mar 21 22:34:42 chouimat: what's the problem? Doesn't he basically provide all the necessary info? Mar 21 22:35:26 NAiL: not really .. but I have a personal problem with him ... Mar 21 22:36:53 NAiL: the original post ask what I do when I broke the thing ... aka bad/corrupt not how to replace it Mar 21 22:37:43 well, from what I can see, the second post made the first one irrelevant Mar 21 22:38:01 and the link he provided contained all the info needed to answer the second question Mar 21 22:38:22 NAiL: the last few one are more usefull for me Mar 21 22:38:43 Laibsch: it seems you commited but not pushed the two glibc patches Mar 21 22:39:50 btw, I'm getting this behaviour with bitbake 1.8: http://pastebin.ca/405769 Mar 21 22:40:22 It appears to parse everything once for every task Mar 21 22:44:05 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r8ee01e7a... 10/ (1 packages/monotone/monotone-6_0.33.bb): monotone-6: Fix path instead of trying to remove a file in a nonexisting location Mar 21 22:44:12 Anyone know why bitbake is doing that? It kinda slows down the build a *lot* Mar 21 22:48:08 pastebin is so slow that I can't access to the page ... Mar 21 22:50:07 cyrilRomain: try http://www.pasteserver.net/6032H Mar 21 22:50:09 aargh Mar 21 22:50:10 http://www.pasteserver.net/603 Mar 21 22:51:32 morning Mar 21 22:52:29 NAiL: do you use PARALLEL_MAKE ? Mar 21 22:52:41 cyrilRomain: not at all Mar 21 22:52:50 NAiL: I don't have such behaviour .. Mar 21 22:53:03 (i don't use PARALLEL_MAKE either) Mar 21 22:53:03 I'm not running it in an interactive shell Mar 21 22:53:12 it didn't have this behaviour when I did Mar 21 22:53:27 basically, nohup bb & Mar 21 22:54:30 cyrilRomain: That is correkt. I had some issues with the computer. Mar 21 22:54:45 I hope I can push it within the hour. Mar 21 22:54:45 * cyrilRomain wonders if '&' can provoque that Mar 21 22:55:31 Laibsch: no pb, thx :) Mar 21 22:56:55 NAiL: I have no idea .. but I noticed here I use bitbake 1.8.1 Mar 21 22:57:09 NAiL: so maybe it is something that was fix recently ? Mar 21 22:57:20 s/fix/fixed/ even Mar 21 22:57:28 dunno. It works fine if I just run it directly, without nohup and & Mar 21 22:58:12 NAiL: btw, what is nohup ? Mar 21 22:58:23 kinda like "screen" Mar 21 23:12:23 'n8 all **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 21 23:22:38 2007 Mar 21 23:39:03 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r5419a8c3... 10/ (1 packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins.inc): gst-plugins.inc: PR makes no sense for an include file Mar 21 23:39:07 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r6c7f9afd... 10/ (16 files in 2 dirs): gstreamer: Bump all PR to prevent it from going backwards as a result of removing PR from the include file. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 21 23:43:25 2007 Mar 22 01:12:21 good night :) Mar 22 01:13:53 nite **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 22 02:59:58 2007