**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 03 02:59:56 2007 Apr 03 03:17:50 meister: feh is pretty awesome Apr 03 03:18:05 beats xloadimage by a few seconds loading jpegs on a geode :) Apr 03 06:04:31 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r1863c725... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Apr 03 06:04:31 slugos-init: change find option -mount to -xdev in turnup (so that turnup Apr 03 06:04:31 can work with either busybox find or with the full find utility). Apr 03 06:04:35 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r94f578be... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-slugos.bb): task-slugos: add kernel-module-loop to the rootfs (altboot support) Apr 03 06:04:39 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r62a6cd17... 10/ (1 packages/busybox/busybox-1.2.1/slugos/defconfig): Apr 03 06:04:39 busybox: SlugOS defconfig - enable mount/umount (for altboot), disable ext2/3 Apr 03 06:04:39 utilities (not necessary), enable dos2unix and unix2dos applets. Apr 03 06:04:44 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r50afe372... 10/ (25 files in 7 dirs): Apr 03 06:04:44 busybox: update to 1.5.0 (preference set to -1 so as not to disturb until Apr 03 06:04:44 this possibly-unstable release is more thoroughly tested). Apr 03 06:05:19 good morning all Apr 03 06:06:27 Salutations. Apr 03 06:10:12 ~lart hal 0.5.9 for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function) Apr 03 06:10:12 * ibot whips out a sword and chops hal 0.5.9 in half for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function) Apr 03 06:17:59 good morning. My bitbake still fails with "/bin/sh: arm-linux-ar: not found". I did "bitbake binutils binutils-cross" as NAil suggested that these packages would contain arm-linux-ar. Still no go. spitz/.dev/angstrom-oabi. Apr 03 07:50:12 morning Apr 03 07:51:51 aargh Apr 03 07:51:58 the license server of this crap is flakey Apr 03 07:52:08 ~kill Tanner EDA Apr 03 07:52:13 * ibot shoots a excited fluxquark gun at Tanner EDA Apr 03 07:53:44 :-D Apr 03 07:54:32 hey XorA Apr 03 07:56:28 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r71681d3f... 10/ (15 files in 3 dirs): Apr 03 07:56:28 linux-smdk2443_2.6.20+git.bb : add a kernel for the smdk2443 board from Apr 03 07:56:28 samsung. Apr 03 08:03:50 XorA: 2443 is armv5? Apr 03 08:05:18 koen|lab: no Apr 03 08:06:26 koen|lab: why? Apr 03 08:06:35 just wondering Apr 03 08:06:46 it does seems to have usb2 and 533MHz Apr 03 08:07:06 it has both of those, but still arm920 Apr 03 08:07:12 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r9825e252... 10/ (1 conf/machine/smdk2443.conf): smdk2443.conf : machine conf for smdk2443 Apr 03 08:07:20 s3c6400 series is arm11 though :-) Apr 03 08:08:50 vfp! Apr 03 08:09:46 morning all Apr 03 08:09:53 good morning Apr 03 08:10:02 yo RP pH5 Apr 03 08:10:56 sup y'all Apr 03 08:10:57 hey RP & pH5 Apr 03 08:11:19 zecke: I still think that patch is too complex Apr 03 08:12:06 RP: okay, at least as band-aid it should do now Apr 03 08:12:23 robtaylor: hal 0.5.9 doesn't compile Apr 03 08:12:23 zecke: But it didn't work with bitbake 1.8? Apr 03 08:12:39 ~lart hal 0.5.9 for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function) Apr 03 08:12:39 * ibot hereby declares hal 0.5.9 a troll for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function) Apr 03 08:12:41 RP: Problem: We can't rely on any sha tool being installed, building coreutils is not an option so I create oe_shasum Apr 03 08:12:54 RP: yes, for some reason I see quilt-do-fetch before oe_shasum is statged Apr 03 08:13:28 zecke: I'm fine with that, I'm just not sure about the base.bbclass changes Apr 03 08:13:46 zecke: Which version of bitbake 1,8 - was it 1.8.0 or svn? Apr 03 08:14:11 RP: BitBake 1.8 branches Apr 03 08:14:37 zecke: and you're svn'd up? Apr 03 08:15:03 RP: I did an initial checkout Apr 03 08:16:38 koen|lab: ah, your kernel headers are too old Apr 03 08:17:04 robtaylor: why doesn't configure detect that? Apr 03 08:17:18 (I have 2.15.99 linux-libc-headers) Apr 03 08:17:26 koen|lab: it should, but david put out 0.5.9 before i could fix it Apr 03 08:17:39 RP: are the updated headers from Poky safe to use for EABI? Apr 03 08:18:35 koen|lab: hal needs 2.6.18 or greater Apr 03 08:19:09 koen|lab: They're working ok for us... Apr 03 08:19:16 RP: I think I have some typo in the [depend] = code, so it would be appreciated if you could look into it Apr 03 08:20:03 RP: Now to the issue. We need to add shasum-native at the root of the dependency treee Apr 03 08:20:18 RP: it shasum-native itself musn't depend on anything (e.g. not quilt-native) Apr 03 08:21:40 zecke: The syntax looks right to me... Apr 03 08:22:50 hmm Apr 03 08:23:19 RP: I can verify it again, but my machine is currently occupied by another OS :} Apr 03 08:23:57 zecke: You could try the output from bitbake something -g and see if shasum-native is listed at all... Apr 03 08:24:58 RP: as to the simplification. The DEPENDS = "" change is necessary Apr 03 08:25:17 RP: and to avoid circular deps shasum musn't depend on PATCHTOOL Apr 03 08:26:04 zecke: I understand, its tricky :/ Apr 03 08:30:10 RP: Admitingly my primary goal was to make it work to stop the sheaps from falling into the blackhole :) Apr 03 08:30:40 RP: a) we could completely hardcode a shasum-native case Apr 03 08:31:00 if PN == "shasum-native": return "" else: deps = "shasum-native" ... old code Apr 03 08:32:24 zecke: This code isn't going to last long anyway so lets just do that? Apr 03 08:33:07 RP: why do you think it won't last long? We will remove it as we will require 1.8 but when are we going to require 1.8? Apr 03 08:33:21 zecke: Within two months ;-) Apr 03 08:43:51 zecke: I didn't realise it was committed. I'll try and run some tests with bb-1.8 Apr 03 08:48:32 RP: I did Apr 03 08:49:15 * zecke adds playing with mtn branching onto his research list Apr 03 08:56:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcea60e66... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-libc-headers: add 2.6.20 from Poky Apr 03 08:57:30 RP: has someone set a date yet for requiring bitbake 1.8? Apr 03 08:57:40 "two months" is awfully vague Apr 03 08:57:59 01/01/06 Apr 03 08:58:04 * NAiL suggest the 1st of june Apr 03 08:58:38 We still need to release bitbake 1.8.2 yet but yes, around then Apr 03 08:59:11 I will raise a discussion of exactly what the aims of .dev are to... Apr 03 09:00:21 and what people would want in a stable branch Apr 03 09:00:50 I suspect people want 'less csets' instead of 'better regression testing' most of the times Apr 03 09:05:19 robtaylor: and 0.5.9 require autoconf >2.59.... Apr 03 09:05:27 (2.6x doesn't build in OE for me) Apr 03 09:06:09 koen|lab: yep Apr 03 09:06:38 koen|lab: well you'll have problems with hal, as its never worked with 2.4 Apr 03 09:06:51 and never will, and is totally predicated on 2.6 Apr 03 09:09:22 2.4? Apr 03 09:09:32 I have kernel 2.4 devices? Apr 03 09:09:34 where? Apr 03 09:09:39 * koen|lab searches for a hammer Apr 03 09:11:44 ~lart ipkg Apr 03 09:11:44 * ibot gives ipkg a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" Apr 03 09:12:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc5f3f559... 10/ (1 packages/hal/hal-info_git.bb packages/hal/hal_0.5.9.bb): Apr 03 09:12:50 hal: add 0.5.9 and hal-info_git from poky Apr 03 09:12:50 * has a hack to work around autofoo >2.59 dep Apr 03 09:12:50 * requires linux-libc-headers >= 2.6.18 Apr 03 09:13:36 * XorA thinks maybe next bug day should concentrate on making autocof 2.6* work Apr 03 09:13:51 as we are rapidly deteriorating out metadata with hacks Apr 03 09:34:56 XorA: mail sent about autofoo hacks Apr 03 09:36:53 koen|lab: see it Apr 03 09:37:01 koen|lab: oh, i misparsed your statment Apr 03 09:37:12 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re0643d7e... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk-gpephone.bb): task-sdk-gpephone: New Apr 03 09:37:16 koen|lab: hmm, it should be >= 2.59 Apr 03 09:37:18 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rd92d9487... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk-sbox.bb): meta-sdk-sbox: Add G(PE)^2 dependencies as well. Apr 03 09:37:58 robtaylor: 2.59*c* Apr 03 09:38:05 which is >2.59 Apr 03 09:40:47 ahh Apr 03 09:45:30 morning Apr 03 09:45:53 hi hrw Apr 03 09:47:02 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.8 * r811 10/lib/bb/build.py: build.py: Add missing intertask dependency code Apr 03 09:47:14 zecke: This would be why it wasn't working ;-) Apr 03 09:47:32 One line missing... Apr 03 09:47:43 :) Apr 03 09:47:50 RP: where is the commit to trunk? Apr 03 09:48:02 zecke: Its in trunk, it was just missed out the backport ;-) Apr 03 09:48:09 :) Apr 03 09:48:46 hey hrw Apr 03 09:49:51 zecke: Just tested and the -g output looks better now, it will work as intended Apr 03 09:50:04 good to know that -g works (again) Apr 03 09:50:42 zecke: You should have a look at the task-depends.dot file - very useful and you'll see why we need to sort the dependencies :/ Apr 03 09:51:05 we should sell posters :) Apr 03 09:51:31 or how to build your distribution by hand :) Apr 03 09:51:52 All 2,300 steps :) Apr 03 09:52:48 "Why not to use buildroot: " Apr 03 09:53:33 * zecke wonders how GStreamer synchronize audio and video on rtph264depay :} Apr 03 09:55:13 zecke: with tapas and beer Apr 03 09:55:39 zecke: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/uraeus/2007/04/02/0 Apr 03 09:56:16 koen|lab: I read that Apr 03 09:56:41 koen|lab: but still if you have a a method to parse the SenderReport and this method is not used at all this is a bad sign :) Apr 03 09:57:06 so they had too much beer :) Apr 03 10:16:05 how do you unexport in a .bb? Apr 03 10:16:26 specifically I dont want ${datadir} to be exported Apr 03 10:16:59 XorA: delVarFlag :} Apr 03 10:17:11 XorA: or do_foo_prepend() { unexport foo } Apr 03 10:17:55 unexport datadir isnt liked Apr 03 10:18:22 mainly as I dont have an unexport command in shell Apr 03 10:18:31 bash has one Apr 03 10:18:51 unset Apr 03 10:19:33 zecke: ahah cheerrs unset was what my brain failed to remeber Apr 03 10:19:56 unset BRIAN Apr 03 10:20:03 BRAIN even :) Apr 03 10:20:19 zecke: heh heh, coffee time Apr 03 10:22:49 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r85f4d68d... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): Apr 03 10:22:49 bitbake.conf: "wifi" was treated as COMBINED_FEATURE for some time now, but wasn't Apr 03 10:22:49 actually computed as such. Apr 03 10:26:09 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r615a88e1... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: Bump PR so people get wifi feature handling fixes. Apr 03 10:26:35 koen|away: I have 91% to go as well Apr 03 10:34:05 finally Apr 03 10:34:07 lunch time Apr 03 10:34:43 or rather, time to eat breakfast Apr 03 10:57:46 task-distro-wifi-rdepends depends on the wifi COMBINED_FEATURE - does this mean that the zaurus machines, which don't have internal wifi, won't get wireless-tools and wpa-supplicant? Apr 03 10:58:00 Also, I think task-base-pcmcia-rdepends / task-base-pcmcia2[46]-rrecommends should only include cf wifi drivers / utils if the machine does not have the (internal) wifi MACHINE_FEATURE. The same for hostap-utils in task-distro-wifi-rdepends. Apr 03 11:02:09 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * racf4b7a6... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-aerial/gpe-aerial_svn.bb): Apr 03 11:02:09 packages/gpe-aerial/gpe-aerial_svn.bb Apr 03 11:02:09 * add svn build for gpe-aerial Apr 03 11:11:19 "I'm trying to compile a 2.4.20 kernel by using an optimized gcc 3.4.5" Apr 03 11:11:24 * koen|lab runs away screaming Apr 03 11:11:45 koen|lab: -O7 ? Apr 03 11:11:56 * philippe gives koen|lab a high powered escape car Apr 03 11:17:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ahfEufHAw Apr 03 11:24:24 hrw, do you know who submitted OSK bug reports? Apr 03 11:25:26 "sledgehammer approach" comes to mind Apr 03 11:25:39 "one package is missing a dep, so lets add it to the distro instead" Apr 03 11:26:44 no Apr 03 11:28:39 03rpurdie * r812 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): build.py: Expand dependency flag data Apr 03 11:29:02 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r1415a4bb... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Apr 03 11:29:02 aspell-native_0.60.5.bb, aspell6-en_6.0-0.bb, aspell_0.60.5.bb : some Apr 03 11:29:02 speeling cheecker (spelling checker) updates. Moved to latest version Apr 03 11:29:02 of aspell and dictionaries. Apr 03 11:29:06 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r0fd063b1... 10/ (1 packages/enchant/enchant_1.3.0.bb): enchant_1.3.0.bb : add newest version on enchant spelling checker interface. Apr 03 11:29:10 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rb5facee8... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Apr 03 11:29:10 aspell-native_0.50.5.bb, aspell5-en_6.0-0.bb, aspell_0.50.5.bb : remove old Apr 03 11:29:10 versions Apr 03 11:30:16 XorA: looks like I would need to check aspell-pl Apr 03 11:30:45 hrw: well if you had checked it in I would have looked Apr 03 11:31:14 hrw, I can't look at them until later this week. Apr 03 11:31:22 He used the celinux distro Apr 03 11:31:40 I will update and start an angstrom on OSK build today Apr 03 11:31:48 hrw: pl has aspell6 version so should work fine Apr 03 11:33:22 Crofton: can openomap* be dropped from OE? Apr 03 11:33:43 soon :) Apr 03 11:34:31 The answer is most likely yes, but I have to much other work at the moment and I want to do a little more testing Apr 03 11:35:43 XorA: it is in OE Apr 03 11:38:08 RP, hrw: you want the next cset in poky as well Apr 03 11:38:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcb49865a... 10/ (1 packages/hal/hal-info_git.bb): hal-info: this isn't architecture specific Apr 03 11:40:03 anybody sees issues with this? http://www.pastebin.ca/422316 Apr 03 11:40:37 philippe: yes Apr 03 11:40:59 koen|lab: I kind of expected it so this is why I ask. Apr 03 11:41:16 philippe: libmimedir is in gpe-svn now, so that one should be used Apr 03 11:41:38 that has a shitload more bugfixes Apr 03 11:41:41 I know. And this is correct for the libmimedir_svn build Apr 03 11:41:58 * koen|lab proposed mtn drop -e libmimedir_0.4.0-20060804.bb Apr 03 11:42:32 But as this is a version with a fixed SRCDATE I thought using the gnome svn (which is where the old cvs stuff has moved too) Apr 03 11:42:50 koen|lab: and your proposal got rejected? Apr 03 11:43:03 s/d/s/ Apr 03 11:43:05 hrw: I may be being totally blind, but I cant see it Apr 03 11:43:22 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/1e22673f726ae7c92e41b03114e3da3c.png <- somebody should learn that hardcoding qvga is bad Apr 03 11:43:36 XorA: shit.. so I have to dig for it Apr 03 11:43:54 koen|lab: well mtn drop -e libmimedir_cvs.bb is definitely in order. Apr 03 11:44:00 XorA: found. it is but in .ox354x Apr 03 11:44:15 So anybody has issues with koens proposal? Apr 03 11:44:37 hrw: I could add a aspell6-pl and you could check it Apr 03 11:44:43 philippe: the point is moot anyway, since gpe will never release stuff depending on libmimedir..... Apr 03 11:45:37 koen|lab: gpe-contacts still seems to depend on it Apr 03 11:45:51 and the sync stuff too AFAIK Apr 03 11:46:17 philippe: for how long have I been asking for new releases? Apr 03 11:46:23 philippe: a few months now Apr 03 11:47:11 koen|lab: this is why I am making svn recipes. So you can ignore the bloody releases if you want too :-) Apr 03 11:47:50 * koen|lab bribes philippe to do 'make dist' in a few directories Apr 03 11:48:09 * philippe wants GPE svn builds to push development forward. Apr 03 11:48:15 koen|lab: :-) Apr 03 11:48:44 I seriously think 'development' would be pushed forward with gpe showing it isn't dead Apr 03 11:49:05 checking svn is to hard for 99% of the people Apr 03 11:50:39 koen|lab: I agree there. But I am not maintainer for those components. having distro builds with svn code might force updates. Apr 03 11:50:46 and releases Apr 03 11:53:44 heh Apr 03 11:53:54 maemo has had svn builds for some time now Apr 03 11:54:02 if anything they delay releases Apr 03 11:54:42 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r5a685e5a... 10/ (1 packages/aspell/aspell6-pl_6.0-20061121-0.bb): aspell6-pl_6.0-20061121-0.bb : .pl aspell dictionary Apr 03 11:55:06 thx XorA Apr 03 11:55:35 morning all Apr 03 11:57:36 koen|lab: maemo is mostly useless to build anyway :-) Apr 03 11:58:13 no images can be build Apr 03 12:10:13 hey mickeyl Apr 03 12:10:21 mornign koen Apr 03 12:10:51 * koen|lab discovers http://dynamicpower.sourceforge.net/ Apr 03 12:11:12 "The DPM project results from a collaboration between the IBM Austin Research Lab and MontaVista Software." Apr 03 12:11:19 * koen|lab looks for the patches against 2.4.1 Apr 03 12:12:00 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r36aafe8b... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Apr 03 12:12:00 packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_cvs.bb Apr 03 12:12:00 * dropped obsolete cvs package Apr 03 12:12:00 packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_0.4.0-20060804.bb Apr 03 12:12:00 * dropped obsolete cvs package Apr 03 12:12:00 packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_cvs.bb Apr 03 12:12:02 * dropped obsolete cvs package Apr 03 12:12:06 koen|lab: http://source.mvista.com:14690//linuxppc_2_4_devel-pm Apr 03 12:12:16 under downloads :-) Apr 03 12:13:29 philippe: can you split commits per package next time? Apr 03 12:13:29 I wonder if it might be a good idea to do a "make clean" in ${S} after building a package. Apr 03 12:13:42 florian: bad Apr 03 12:13:53 hrw: why? Apr 03 12:14:13 florian: I like to keep tmp/work to be able to compare builds Apr 03 12:14:31 florian: it I want to have clean sources I do -cclean/-cpatch Apr 03 12:14:47 hrw: well these were related. But ok. I'll pay more attention to it next time Apr 03 12:15:38 hrw: it would save huge amounts of disk space - 90% of our users won't need that stuff anyway. so if we had a switch to turn on this behaviour i'm sure people would be quite happy. Apr 03 12:15:58 I will ;) Apr 03 12:16:09 florian: let they inherit rm_work? Apr 03 12:17:19 INHERIT += "rm_work" is a standard thing for me Apr 03 12:17:56 florian: you just need to add the INHERIT in your local.conf Apr 03 12:19:14 doesn't that drop the whole work thing? Apr 03 12:19:29 well ok, should be fine in most cases Apr 03 12:19:59 rm_work works fine over here Apr 03 12:20:53 florian: feel free to improve it Apr 03 12:21:42 it trades space for time Apr 03 12:21:54 if you notice a packaging error, you have to rebuild it again Apr 03 12:22:46 right... Apr 03 12:23:23 it does allow you to build in a ramdisk if you want :) Apr 03 12:23:32 hehe Apr 03 12:24:48 actually, it doesn't work well with the new bitbake because of the fine-grained task dependencies. if only do_stage is depended upon, rm_work is never executed. Apr 03 12:25:19 but building on a ramdisk is certainly a time-saver, especially on slow notebooks. Apr 03 13:29:00 gpe-login is using "install -s" and I'm getting an error that strip (native, not cross ??) is unsable to recognize the file. Isn't stripping done separately with the cross-strip? Apr 03 13:31:01 yes Apr 03 13:31:16 apps should not do install -s, that breaks creation of debugging packages Apr 03 13:36:41 koen|lab: looks like we need to patch the gpe-login-0.88 makefile then, there are two "install -s" in there. Apr 03 13:36:54 right Apr 03 13:41:07 gvim with two sql dumps is hard.. Apr 03 13:42:15 install_strip.patch: http://www.pasteserver.net/844 gpe-login_0.88.bb patch: http://www.pasteserver.net/845 Apr 03 13:45:01 koen|lab: we need pastebin.openembedded.org Apr 03 13:51:19 hrw: http://openembedded.pasteserver.net/ ? Apr 03 13:56:06 apaulsen: no. pastebin on our server Apr 03 13:56:22 * florian shoots bitbake Apr 03 14:00:30 *sigh* Apr 03 14:00:39 T-spice is using 11% cpu while simulating Apr 03 14:01:30 (c) 83 - 88 could be a sign that it isn't optimized for recent CPUs... Apr 03 14:03:46 koen|lab: maybe it's busy filling your hard disk with log files :) Apr 03 14:46:35 hi, all! Apr 03 14:46:39 RP, ping Apr 03 14:47:59 slapin_nb: pong Apr 03 14:48:25 RP, do you know a way on how to profile bitbake on memory cinsumption? Apr 03 14:48:43 s/cinsumption/consumption Apr 03 14:49:21 slapin_nb: I've just watched the stats in top in the past. You could use exmap... Apr 03 14:49:58 slapin_nb: projects.o-hand.com/exmap-console Apr 03 14:50:06 RP, I want to see in more detail, pre function or something. I want to optimize it a bit Apr 03 14:50:30 slapin_nb: Memory usage in bitbake is ok, isn't it? Apr 03 14:50:38 RP, I know about this tool, but it has nothing to do with what I need. Apr 03 14:50:50 RP, it is not OK for my specific purpose. Apr 03 14:51:29 slapin_nb: I'm not a python guru and I don't know what tools if any can look at memory per function Apr 03 14:51:52 RP, I want it to run in ideal solution, to consume not more than 128Mb of memory even if it causes slowdown. Apr 03 14:52:02 RP, sorry, thanks! Apr 03 14:52:21 slapin_nb: It shouldn't be using 128MB? Which version is that? Apr 03 14:53:04 RP, 1.8 Apr 03 14:54:10 slapin_nb: 62MB maximum aginst poky. I guess OE.dev will be more Apr 03 14:54:36 slapin_nb: VSize of 128MB? how many pages are used? Apr 03 14:54:39 RP, because in my syntethic circumstances memory is strictly limited, and I'd like for bitbake -D -n angstrom-x11-image to succeed in this circumstances. Apr 03 14:55:24 zecke, 32768 Apr 03 14:57:19 slapin_nb: I guess the fork in 1.8 is a nighmare in that scenario? Apr 03 14:58:30 4k pages? Apr 03 14:58:44 zecke, yes Apr 03 14:58:59 RP, probably Apr 03 15:22:03 cu Apr 03 15:24:33 ahah, trying to not run x86_64 binaries in i686 mode works much better Apr 03 15:29:20 RP, so idea is to eleminate fork, then? Any place in addition to look for memory optimizations? Apr 03 15:30:37 slapin_nb: google for python and memory profiling and then profile? Apr 03 15:30:57 slapin_nb: You might need to. I don't think we can accept removal of the fork into trunk though Apr 03 15:31:29 zecke, I already searched, and found it is not that simple. Apr 03 15:31:55 RP, I think special mode could suffice. Apr 03 15:32:12 RP, I think I'll do that in some acceptable way. Apr 03 15:32:44 slapin_nb: Keep in mind we've done this with a reason - to support a UI and multithreading in due course Apr 03 15:33:11 RP: this report and the OOM bug entry make me worry if we should make 1.8 BB_MIN_VERSION :} Apr 03 15:33:32 RP, I think another command-line optionw won't harm. Apr 03 15:33:46 zecke: The OOM bug I think was bad metadata and if so would probably hit 1.6 too Apr 03 15:33:55 slapin_nb: In which case you didn't read what I said Apr 03 15:34:15 Well, you might have read it but you didn't think about or understand it :-( Apr 03 15:35:26 RP, I read, and I talk about special executing mode, when I want to produce list of .bbs and tasks which needed to be executed, which should be done with <128Mb memory footprint. That's my idea. Apr 03 15:36:23 RP, so It won't interfere with normal functionality. I'd also like to probably make it into a class, if that's possible in current architecture. Apr 03 15:37:02 slapin_nb: You might as well parse the output from "bitbake -g" in the task-depends.dot file Apr 03 15:39:03 hi all Apr 03 15:39:26 RP, is bitbake -g consumes less memory than -n ? Apr 03 15:39:37 slapin_nb: profile? Apr 03 15:40:07 slapin_nb: Probably not but it won't fork and will give you the list you want Apr 03 15:41:09 zecke, profiling of python apps is not that easy as C ones. as for overall use cases, these both give me OOM, but in a different fashion. Apr 03 15:41:51 RP, thanks, I'll look into -g mode, probably I will just add something to produce .txt Apr 03 15:41:52 slapin_nb: wow, my google.com found three interesting approaches... Apr 03 15:42:28 zecke, share? Apr 03 15:42:44 slapin_nb: ok, I give up ;-) Apr 03 15:42:46 slapin_nb: google is available to everyone Apr 03 15:43:06 zecke, I tried several already, otherwise I never ask. Apr 03 15:43:50 zecke, I really believe you have better Google lore than me. Apr 03 16:12:02 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r08dc7708... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/libgemwidget_0.1.bb): libgemwidget: update dependencies Apr 03 16:12:06 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra46acee6... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk-gpephone.bb): task-sdk-gpephone: Fix some names Apr 03 16:12:10 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r4420d8a7... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk.bb): task-sdk: Fix some names I guessed wrong to make it buildable. Apr 03 16:12:15 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r77f6efff... 10/ (1 conf/machine/netvista.conf): netvista.conf: Update to more modern standards and kernel 2.6 Apr 03 16:12:19 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r6c919818... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-netvista: remove old kernel Apr 03 16:12:24 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r97edb3a7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-x86: Add Netvista 8365 defconfig Apr 03 16:16:11 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r58149b1f... 10/ (1 packages/images/gpe-image.bb): gpe-image: Remove obsolete familiar feed. Apr 03 16:38:28 will be back in 40 min Apr 03 16:43:28 btw, is anoncvs.gnome org fixed everywhere? is libmimedir non-fetchable yesterday's news? Apr 03 16:55:14 hi all Apr 03 17:11:30 mr_nice: hi Apr 03 17:16:48 mrdata: hi Apr 03 17:28:23 is it possible to use rsync mirror for files? Apr 03 17:31:21 Hi all, trying to build a spitz image of gpe but teleport keeps breaking: http://paste2.org/p/2289. Why all of the syntax errors? I'm building on Ubuntu Edgy and have removed dash.. Apr 03 17:39:30 hmm, uboot 1.2 is out Apr 03 17:45:03 geekoid: it looks like it can't find X11/Xlib.h Apr 03 17:46:17 slapin_nb: libmimedir has been fixed earlier today Apr 03 17:46:43 philippe, thanks a lot! Apr 03 17:47:29 geekoid: I had issues where the files would get deleted by the build of some X related package Apr 03 17:48:30 geekoid: to fix it you need to rebuild libx11 if I remember correctly Apr 03 18:04:58 @phillippe: Thanks, would a simple "bitbake libx11 && bitbake gpe-image" work? Apr 03 18:06:22 geekoid: you might need to force libx11 to rebuild with bitbake -c rebuild libx11, otherwise that should work Apr 03 18:08:58 phillippe: looks like -c rebuild is required. Thanks.. crossing fingers once again ;) Apr 03 18:09:44 oops, thanks hvontres.. Apr 03 18:15:52 I am hating meetings Apr 03 18:16:03 anyone added u-boot-1.2 to OE? Apr 03 18:20:51 !oebug 2079 Apr 03 18:20:53 * * Bug 2079, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-03 11:26 Apr 03 18:20:54 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: QA errors, build failure. Apr 03 18:20:55 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2079 Apr 03 18:21:05 any ideas? Apr 03 18:21:34 package is aspell_0.60.5.bb Apr 03 18:29:01 speaking of package versions, I think there are issues in u-boot Apr 03 18:48:28 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r69383169... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Apr 03 18:48:28 packages/gpe-today/gpe-today_cvs.bb Apr 03 18:48:28 * drop obsolete version Apr 03 18:48:28 packages/gpe-today/gpe-today_svn.bb Apr 03 18:48:28 * up-to-date svn version to replace obsolete cvs .bb Apr 03 19:11:58 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r3c255d53... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-scap/gpe-scap_svn.bb): Apr 03 19:11:58 packages/gpe-scap/gpe-scap_svn.bb Apr 03 19:11:58 * add new svn build recipe Apr 03 20:06:46 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rbae80e65... 10/ (1 packages/uboot/u-boot_LABEL.2006.06.30.2020.bb): u-boot_LABEL.2006.06.30.2020.bb : Set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = -1 Apr 03 20:06:51 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r471d0bd9... 10/ (1 packages/uboot/u-boot_1.2.0.bb): u-boot_1.2.0.bb : Add version 1.2.0 of u-boot. Apr 03 20:11:04 koen|away, ping Apr 03 20:15:24 hm which modules do I need to get compact flash working via pcmcia? Apr 03 20:15:47 on what? Apr 03 20:15:54 simpad Apr 03 20:16:23 pccardctl works Apr 03 20:16:39 woglinde: I think you need ide_cs Apr 03 20:17:06 hvontres ah okay Apr 03 20:17:08 http://pastebin.ca/422931 Apr 03 20:17:17 is what I have loaded on the OSK Apr 03 20:17:48 thank you Apr 03 20:17:55 and, I must go now, good luck Apr 03 20:19:55 morning Apr 03 20:20:12 * hrw wonder when slapin will learn how to report bugs.. Apr 03 20:21:18 hi hrw Apr 03 20:26:58 hi hrw Apr 03 20:27:53 woglinde: hi Apr 03 20:28:05 hi mr_nice Apr 03 20:30:43 woglinde: nice to read that you are on simpad testing :) Apr 03 20:31:26 hehe Apr 03 20:31:36 my toshiba cf is working now Apr 03 20:32:09 woglinde: with ide_cs? I will then add it to the default config Apr 03 20:32:45 hehe okay Apr 03 20:32:49 vfat is missing Apr 03 20:33:15 woglinde: btw. there is now a #opensimpad.org channel ;) Apr 03 20:33:32 hm Apr 03 20:33:34 hehe Apr 03 20:34:53 woglined: I was not able to resist making advertising for it *g Apr 03 20:38:22 oh no Apr 03 20:38:38 dont work Apr 03 20:38:45 damnit Apr 03 20:39:08 oh Apr 03 20:39:12 it works Apr 03 20:39:15 but painfull slow Apr 03 20:40:19 hrw, I added new u-boot to oe, and marked the git tag so it does not build by default Apr 03 20:43:00 Crofton|home: which ver of uboot you recommend for osk? Apr 03 20:43:19 well, someone had trouble building the git tag Apr 03 20:43:30 and there are more recent tarballs Apr 03 20:43:45 I had been running 1.1.6 on mine, and I 1.2.0 did work Apr 03 20:43:59 although I do not think there are any OSK specific changes in that version Apr 03 20:44:12 basically, I would run 1.2.0 Apr 03 20:44:42 so I will mark celinux-test as 1.1.6 Apr 03 20:45:15 heh Apr 03 20:45:30 They are conservative :) Apr 03 20:46:07 they are Apr 03 20:46:20 you know: if it works, don't fix it Apr 03 20:46:21 I am concerned by the intersection of my work and facebook Apr 03 20:46:32 http://developers.facebook.com/thrift/ Apr 03 20:46:35 yeah Apr 03 20:46:40 I understand that Apr 03 20:47:10 I think the version code built the _LABEL u-boot over the tarball based version Apr 03 20:47:19 and that is not good, so I think I fixed it Apr 03 20:47:55 Did you see the uimage "buf" that was psted about the OSK? Apr 03 20:48:05 yes Apr 03 20:48:19 I need to go through the process and see if it works Apr 03 20:48:38 I was concerned the reporter said the recipe does not work, becuase it does make a bootable kernel Apr 03 20:48:56 I am not sure if th kernel uimage target really makes somethign that bots on the OSK Apr 03 20:49:38 mickey|bbl, ping? Apr 03 20:51:03 how can i change my keymap in console mode ? Apr 03 20:56:08 meister, loadkeys? Apr 03 20:57:28 kristoffer, ok Apr 03 20:57:59 kristoffer, do you know where is located the file of my current keymap ? Apr 03 20:59:00 meister, not atm Apr 03 20:59:12 find | grep .map ? Apr 03 20:59:29 somewhere under /usr/share I would expect Apr 03 20:59:58 /etc/keymap-2.6.map Apr 03 21:01:56 lol, thought you were asking for you main machine :D Apr 03 21:02:15 kristoffer, for my netbook pro :) Apr 03 21:02:20 hehe Apr 03 21:02:35 i've got an azerty keyboard on it Apr 03 21:02:55 so it a little boring to use it ;) Apr 03 21:03:00 +is Apr 03 21:03:02 :) never tried one of those Apr 03 21:03:41 very nice device but very slow display Apr 03 21:04:05 and i've got only 24mo to run familiar on flash Apr 03 21:04:21 i wonder it it is a good idea to run it on a cf or sd Apr 03 21:05:00 * meister has lots a stupid/newbie questions about the embedded linux stuff Apr 03 21:05:13 /a/of Apr 03 21:06:20 meister: you might want to check with koen, since I think he also has a netbook pro he's playing with Apr 03 21:06:58 florian too Apr 03 21:07:12 he helps me to install linux on it Apr 03 21:16:11 Is there anyone here familiar with threads on Linux? I keep getting this odd error from glibc-2.5 configure: "configure: error: compiler support for __thread is required" Apr 03 21:16:19 I am building with gcc-3.4.4 Apr 03 21:16:36 Do I need to do this with gcc-4.x ? Apr 03 21:16:52 T0mW: you lack NTPL Apr 03 21:17:04 hrw: yeah, I have 2.4.21 kernel... Apr 03 21:17:14 T0mW: look how it is done in angstrom configuration Apr 03 21:17:19 T0mW: zipit? Apr 03 21:17:19 thanks Apr 03 21:17:26 yes, zipit Apr 03 21:17:31 T0mW: angstrom-legacy will be for you Apr 03 21:17:36 ok Apr 03 21:18:06 Almost got this thing done, except for the additional packages (bells & whistles) Apr 03 21:23:39 ~zipit Apr 03 21:23:43 from memory, zipit is a portable, embedded Linux based, wifi IM device. Currently not in compliance with the GPL. See http://www.zipitwireless.com/ or a file compression tool typically used in the macintosh world, or http://eLinux.org/wiki/ZipIt Apr 03 21:24:25 intersting Apr 03 21:24:34 no 2.6 kernel? Apr 03 21:26:34 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/04/03/blog-moved/ Apr 03 21:26:41 Crofton: naw, aeronix (manufacturer) would not release the wifi kernel module source so we are stuck at 2.4 Apr 03 21:27:27 Crofton: it uses some proprietary agere chipset for the wife Apr 03 21:27:35 s/wife/wifi Apr 03 21:27:47 If I run into anyone from Aeronix, I'll complian Apr 03 21:27:56 freudian slip there Apr 03 21:28:00 * T0mW hands Crofton baseball bat Apr 03 21:28:05 does anyone know offhand what I'm doing wrong to get this: Apr 03 21:28:09 udev requires hotplug support, not started. Apr 03 21:28:22 cbrake: what kernel? Apr 03 21:28:27 T0mW: 2.6.20 Apr 03 21:28:32 nm Apr 03 21:28:45 T0mW: never saw it with 2.6.16, but I may have something wrong in the kernel config. Apr 03 21:29:47 dunno what option that would be offhand, you may be correct. Apr 03 21:30:14 cbrake: CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y Apr 03 21:30:32 doh Apr 03 21:30:57 hrw: CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y is set in my config, but for some reason there is not /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug directory. Apr 03 21:31:10 cbrake: and /proc is mounted? Apr 03 21:33:43 hrw: yes, proc is mounted. I see /proc/sys/kernel/hostname, but not /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug Apr 03 21:33:50 ;( Apr 03 21:35:22 hrw: I've read that /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is obsolete -- is anyone else running 2.6.20 w/ the current version of udev in OE? Apr 03 21:36:04 cbrake: I have 2.6.20 on c7x0 Apr 03 21:36:15 moment.. Apr 03 21:36:44 and have /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug there Apr 03 21:37:00 hrw: ok, I'll grok the kernel config a little more then -- thanks for checking Apr 03 21:37:17 cbrake: it has 2.6.20 linux-rp Apr 03 21:37:49 hrw: ok, i'll check it out Apr 03 21:41:38 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rf7d9e1a5... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): compulab-pxa270: create jffs2 images w/ summary information Apr 03 21:42:33 http://vernier.com/labquest/video.html Apr 03 21:53:39 cu Apr 03 21:54:07 * chouimat|away is away: need to try to hook a horse to a kitchen sink ( http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Yes,_That_0x27_s_Exactly_What_I_Meant.aspx ) Apr 03 21:55:06 argh, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is gated with "#if defined(CONFIG_HOTPLUG) && defined(CONFIG_NET) Apr 03 21:55:10 in 2.6.20 Apr 03 21:55:19 guess I better enable networking ... Apr 03 22:05:58 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * ra40e58b0... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-dm/gpe-dm_svn.bb): Apr 03 22:05:58 packages/gpe-dm/gpe-dm_svn.bb Apr 03 22:05:58 * add new svn build recipe for gpe-dm Apr 03 22:06:02 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r91dbccca... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-dm/gpe-dm_svn.bb): Apr 03 22:06:02 packages/gpe-dm/gpe-dm_svn.bb Apr 03 22:06:02 * added correct default preference level Apr 03 22:06:07 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * rcea642ee... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-edit/gpe-edit_svn.bb): Apr 03 22:06:07 packages/gpe-edit/gpe-edit_svn.bb Apr 03 22:06:07 * add new gpe-edit svn build recipe Apr 03 22:06:27 jesus has gpe-image a lot of dependencies Apr 03 22:14:25 hi Apr 03 22:14:40 * chouimat|away is back. Apr 03 22:16:08 chouimat|away: how's the horse? :) Apr 03 22:16:31 hvontres|poodle: never figured how to make it work ;) Apr 03 22:35:15 mickey|bbl, ping? Apr 03 22:35:32 ya Apr 03 22:35:47 did you see the "middleware" from facebook ? Apr 03 22:36:03 no, what's that? Apr 03 22:36:48 http://developers.facebook.com/thrift/ Apr 03 22:37:01 they swear it isn't an April fools Apr 03 22:37:24 woo - interesting stuff Apr 03 22:37:31 yeah Apr 03 22:37:32 i'll take a look at that, thanks for the pointer! Apr 03 22:37:37 yet another middleware :) Apr 03 22:37:40 hehe Apr 03 22:37:46 this term is just so overused lately Apr 03 22:37:48 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * red8e2ec8... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Apr 03 22:37:48 : Apr 03 22:37:48 ttyrec: Add ttyrec, a tty recorder Apr 03 22:37:50 yeah Apr 03 22:37:52 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r6bfdd923... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Apr 03 22:37:52 altboot: Add SVNR30 snapshot Apr 03 22:37:52 - Fix Neo1973 Menu options (except NFS) Apr 03 22:37:52 - Enable Neo1973 menu-navigation for /sbin/altboot Apr 03 22:37:54 - Add generic work-around for busybox ps Apr 03 22:37:56 - Fix /bin/sh boot on NSLU2 Apr 03 22:37:59 - Do no longer package emtpy "Advanced" directory Apr 03 22:38:17 * mickey|bbl prints out the whitepaper to read in bed Apr 03 22:38:19 g'night cu Apr 03 22:38:24 good night Apr 03 22:38:27 nite mickeyl Apr 03 22:41:10 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r09f74c76... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libart-lgpl: Add i486 configuration header. Apr 03 22:41:17 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r59df690e... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): prismstumbler: Some additional fixes. Apr 03 23:02:01 rwhitby: ping kexec on NSLU2 just hangs on kexec -e Apr 04 00:03:11 CoreDump|home: there was someone on the mailing list who had tried it, before the syscall number change. Apr 04 00:03:15 I haven't tried it myself. Apr 04 02:58:01 hi all Apr 04 02:58:31 can you define an ipkg temporary directory in ipkg.conf ?there's not much documentation on temporary dirs for it afaik **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 04 02:59:57 2007