**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 17 02:59:56 2007 Apr 17 05:14:02 hihihi Apr 17 05:16:38 on http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/rev/27247/ I see conf/machine/nokia800.conf is that new stuff? Apr 17 07:12:11 Anyone around? Apr 17 07:18:32 Hi Apr 17 07:24:05 morning Apr 17 07:24:31 keesj: nokia800 is new in OE .dev - was taken from Poky where it was for long time Apr 17 07:24:35 good morning hrw Apr 17 07:32:06 can someone hint me to setup a boot directly into a tmpfs ? Apr 17 07:42:00 rob_w : what do you mean by "boot directly" ? Apr 17 07:47:00 thanks Apr 17 07:50:34 morning Apr 17 07:53:07 Crofton: are you there? Apr 17 08:10:50 morning all Apr 17 08:21:23 Ifaistos, i plan to setup a ram only booting device ,, and i read that initrd `s are deprecated .. so i need to know how to setup tmpfs directly Apr 17 08:29:18 is my question on the user mailing list compilcated? Apr 17 08:42:10 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/04/17/collie-and-sdmmc-support-under-26-kernel/ Apr 17 09:00:59 keesj: Are you after to run the image under emuation (qemu) or on real hardware? Apr 17 09:01:56 I would like to run it on booth. (quite different systems) Apr 17 09:03:06 A good start would be qemu, after that on samsung 24xx SoCs Apr 17 09:03:26 and / or the nokias omaps Apr 17 09:04:30 keesj: You said you've built a qemux86 image which is as the name suggests going to run on x86 machines, particularly it will run well under qemu... Apr 17 09:06:46 What I was saying is that I have ran the bootstrap-image target with machine set to qemux86, I would like to know how to continue after that , how to I start qemu using the rootfs directory, do I need to use nfs/tftp kind of contructions Apr 17 09:07:04 I did not find a qemux86.img file Apr 17 09:09:09 keesj: I'll reply on the list Apr 17 09:09:42 thanks Apr 17 09:43:03 hello all Apr 17 09:44:15 For my custom application, I would like to stage .o files to link against statically. What approach should I use? Apr 17 10:12:05 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r46711b0a... 10/ (1 packages/gsm/libgsmd_svn.bb): libgsmd: add missing initial space in _append variables Apr 17 10:22:27 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra7c87ae8... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Apr 17 10:22:27 libgsmd: numeric.patch was applied upstream Apr 17 10:22:27 - patch to understand qualcomm '@' extended replies Apr 17 10:22:27 is still needed for universal Apr 17 10:42:02 zecke ping Apr 17 10:42:21 hmm we are on bbc world nees Apr 17 11:23:08 Crofton: we? Apr 17 11:23:34 Virginia Tech Apr 17 11:25:00 Drmickeyl: gratulations! Apr 17 11:25:38 hrw: thanks.:) Apr 17 11:25:48 now i can burn all the paperwork :D Apr 17 11:26:09 ritually with dancing virgins etc? Apr 17 11:26:11 mickeyl, you have jumped through all the hops then? Apr 17 11:26:29 Crofton: ya, submitted the obligatory copies today and got my certificate. all done now ! Apr 17 11:26:48 * mickeyl closing this chapter Apr 17 11:27:03 congratulations Apr 17 11:27:23 ~hail Dr. Mickeyl Apr 17 11:27:28 thanks :))) Apr 17 11:27:37 * ibot bows down to Dr. Mickeyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Apr 17 11:27:58 my poor wife now is no longer "better" than me Apr 17 11:27:58 heh Apr 17 11:28:08 :) Apr 17 11:30:46 sorry to hear about the mess at your place Apr 17 11:30:48 glad you're safe Apr 17 11:32:15 thanks mickeyl Apr 17 11:32:20 sad times Apr 17 11:32:53 My friend got out OK, but he was worried about one of the ESM profs who died Apr 17 11:33:43 a lot of second guessing gooing on now, but from where I sit, the uni was not out off line with what they did Apr 17 11:36:46 morning Apr 17 11:56:57 mickeyl: congrats! Apr 17 11:57:43 mickeyl: a bunch of students from the TH Darmstadt were guests there and gave interviews to the HR1 Apr 17 11:58:09 schurig: thanks Apr 17 11:58:14 schurig: ah, interesting Apr 17 12:00:36 mickeyl: congrats Apr 17 12:02:52 hi Apr 17 12:04:39 my tar package is complaining about the lack of iconv functions, i've enabled the LOCALE support at uclibc, but that doesn't work, any hint? Apr 17 12:06:00 uclibc? Apr 17 12:06:05 build libiconv Apr 17 12:06:58 libiconv seems to be built, at least it has been compiled doing "make ucslugc-packages" Apr 17 12:07:44 i've been reading about using the libiconv iconv.h or the iconv.h that uclibc has Apr 17 12:08:13 i've been trying to use both but seems that i am doing something wrong Apr 17 12:09:07 in the tars configure.log i can see that it detects the lack of iconv.h but still the do_config succeds and it breaks at compile time Apr 17 12:11:20 cu Apr 17 12:51:12 * likewise is catching up on seemingly sad and certainly good news Apr 17 12:51:25 Crofton: what's up? Apr 17 12:51:48 mickeyl: Congrats! (And btw, don't burn your paperwork, you might need it when you move abroad). Apr 17 12:52:30 Crofton: Condoleances, I get it now... Apr 17 12:53:26 yeah Apr 17 12:54:37 re Apr 17 12:55:11 makes me feel sick. Apr 17 12:55:20 yeah Apr 17 12:55:48 no we are dealing with reporters who cannot shut up Apr 17 13:25:49 hello Apr 17 13:26:09 anyone free to help? Apr 17 13:26:15 the bb packages that have -initial_ at their name as gcc glibc and uclibc are called automatically or explicitily? Apr 17 13:27:54 could someone take a look at this and help me find the problem: http://pastebin.ca/444699 ? thanks Apr 17 13:40:05 saladino: I don't get the exact mechanics behind it, but look at angstrom how they're built. Apr 17 13:40:34 please, anyone? Apr 17 13:41:40 djay-il: patience, grasshopper Apr 17 13:42:24 djay-il: Looked, but cannot help you: /stuff/build/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/xserver-xorg-X11R7.1-1.1.0-r3/xorg-server-X11R7.1-1.1.0/hw/xfree86/int10/../x86emu/x86emu/types.h:99: error: previous declaration of 'x86emuuint' was here Apr 17 13:42:49 NAiL: ok, thanks Apr 17 13:54:16 djay-il: the tipping point was a great book Apr 17 13:54:20 good morning all Apr 17 13:54:30 mickeyl: congrats! Apr 17 13:54:31 hi koen Apr 17 13:54:39 great, I like it too Apr 17 13:54:53 koen: want more suggestions? Apr 17 13:55:08 djay-il: when I get back home :) Apr 17 13:55:15 koen: :-), ok Apr 17 13:57:31 hi koen Apr 17 13:57:38 hey hrw Apr 17 13:58:00 have you guys built X11 7.1? ever Apr 17 13:58:34 * koen is running 7.2 on most of his devices nowadays Apr 17 13:59:45 is there a package to build? Apr 17 14:00:22 bitbake virtual/xserver should build you the xserver + needed libs Apr 17 14:01:09 oh? Apr 17 14:01:13 * djay-il tries Apr 17 14:02:02 heh, it seems I was 4 blocks away from the bar I was trying to find yesterday Apr 17 14:02:18 * koen really should have brought maemo-mapper with him Apr 17 14:02:18 where is that? Apr 17 14:02:28 http://www.google.com/maps?hl=nl&q=toronado&near=San+Francisco,+CA&cid=0,0,4643596012028042382&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=37.774294,-122.430418&spn=0.007632,0.019956&t=h&om=1 Apr 17 14:02:37 we stopped on hayes and filmore Apr 17 14:02:37 ooo, SF Apr 17 14:02:53 * djay-il has dreams to there once Apr 17 14:04:27 koen: HopsNBarley was there waiting for you? Or you went to pre-investigate? Apr 17 14:07:39 likewise: pre-investigate Apr 17 14:07:49 I'm meeting hopsnbarly on thursday Apr 17 14:22:51 NAiL: sorry to bother you, but did you look into it? Apr 17 14:23:19 djay-il: yes, and I can't help you. Just stick around until someone that can shows up ;) Apr 17 14:23:38 I'll try to install lower version of X then Apr 17 14:24:01 I just want things to install now, not really matter which versions Apr 17 14:24:14 djay-il: use Angstrom feeds? Apr 17 14:24:22 XorA: no Apr 17 14:24:27 dev Apr 17 14:24:52 is there any real difference? Apr 17 14:25:56 eh, if you want things to work fast, why can you not just install already compiled packages? Apr 17 14:26:49 well Apr 17 14:26:50 I can Apr 17 14:26:54 ? Apr 17 14:26:59 I mean, can I? Apr 17 14:27:44 djay-il: well there are numerous architectures already compiled so as long as your ARCH machines one of them you should be able to nick stuff Apr 17 14:28:33 XorA: would you point me to a docs for this? besides, I'd need to be able to do the compile anyways Apr 17 14:28:55 www.angstrom-distribution.org Apr 17 14:29:22 djay-il: assuming you have managed to bootstrap a self compile angstrom onto device, you can then nick packages quickly Apr 17 14:31:44 XorA: but device is weak. The point is to compile binaries on stronger machine... Apr 17 14:32:35 djay-il: I fear there is a translation problem here Apr 17 14:33:15 ? Apr 17 14:33:29 what do you mean? Apr 17 14:33:41 djay-il: I dont think what I am trying to say you are understanding, or what you are trying to say I am understanding Apr 17 14:33:54 oh, that happens a lot :-) Apr 17 14:35:41 djay-il: mostl likely my fault as I am busy at work Apr 17 14:38:36 BTW if I bought a MAC, how painful would running OE be on it? Apr 17 14:47:37 koen: where are you staying? Apr 17 14:57:08 likewise: hyatt regency in santa clara Apr 17 14:57:17 aka "next door to the conference" Apr 17 14:57:34 koen: have fun there! Apr 17 14:57:44 XorA: use a case sensitive filesystem and don't use funky chars in the drive label Apr 17 14:57:48 likewise: thanks! Apr 17 14:58:16 XorA: or just run linux in parallels/vmware :) Apr 17 15:02:33 koen: I am tempted to get something swanky Apr 17 15:03:13 mickeyl, RP, hrw: we need to draw straws for OLS Apr 17 15:03:22 hehe Apr 17 15:04:04 or rather, you need to since I problably don't have time to attend Apr 17 15:04:17 got a link? Apr 17 15:04:45 http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2007/ Apr 17 15:04:52 thanks Apr 17 15:04:53 iirc Tim Bird offered us funding Apr 17 15:12:18 * hrw need visa for canada Apr 17 15:23:44 why? Apr 17 15:24:25 Laibsch: ask canadians on Polish 'so called' goverment Apr 17 15:24:36 s/ on/ or Apr 17 15:25:02 You are interested in migrating to Canada? Apr 17 15:25:06 no Apr 17 15:25:17 OLS is in Canada Apr 17 15:25:18 * Laibsch is getting increasingly frustrated with the German bureaucracy, too Apr 17 15:25:27 OLS? Apr 17 15:25:33 17 17:12 < koen> http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2007/ Apr 17 15:29:43 I am present virtually but I don't follow all discussions closely. Apr 17 15:30:29 Laibsch: Koen is at ELC (Embedded Linux Conference) in San Jose (iirc) - it is sponsored by CELF. Apr 17 15:30:29 Canada requires a Visum even for short-term stays? Strange. Apr 17 15:30:56 Koen, the travelling salesman äh programmer ;-) Apr 17 15:31:06 Laibsch: at ELC he got offer from CELF for OE project - they will sponsor someone from OE to be at OLS Apr 17 15:32:01 * hrw goes to washing dishes Apr 17 15:50:38 hi all Apr 17 15:54:21 hrw: Id be free for canada and I dont think I need a visa Apr 17 16:00:20 hi, all! Apr 17 16:01:46 cc1plus: internal compiler error: in add_path, at c-incpath.c:362 Apr 17 16:01:46 during build of poppler (cross compile badness is also there) - I need it to build meta-sdk-sbox-gpe, any ideas on fixing that? Apr 17 16:02:25 pH5: hi, have you some time for me? Apr 17 16:02:53 mrdata: sure Apr 17 16:03:34 pH5: thanks, i think, there is a bug in actual kernel (2.6.21) git tree inside (also 2.6.21-rc7) Apr 17 16:03:57 pH5: Apr 17 16:03:57 please look at Apr 17 16:03:57 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=include/asm-arm/arch-sa1100/gpio.h Apr 17 16:04:18 pH5: from the functions gpio_to_irq() and irq_to_gpio(), i get wrong results back Apr 17 16:04:43 pH5: these functions does not consider the gpio-bit-shift matrix in SA-1100.h Apr 17 16:05:04 pH5: please look at http://pastebin.ca/439765 for my suggestion, to solve this problem Apr 17 16:07:33 mrdata: gpio is supposed to be the gpio number, not the bit. Apr 17 16:07:43 hi Apr 17 16:07:44 int gpio in the gpio api, I mean Apr 17 16:09:26 mrdata: what place in the code uses irq_to_gpio/gpio_to_irq? Apr 17 16:10:27 pH5: i have a power_button switch wich is connected to gpio0 from sa1110 Apr 17 16:11:30 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8d5296a1... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): dates: updated to 0.4.2 (from Poky) Apr 17 16:11:34 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * racb47f74... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pimlico: point SRC_URI to Pimlico website (from Poky) Apr 17 16:12:44 mrdata: do you use gpio_to_irq(GPIO_GPIO0) or something like that? that won't work because the constants in SA-1100.h are given as bitfields, not gpio numbers. Apr 17 16:12:46 pH5: this gives an according value to 1 for GPIO_GPIO0 trough sa1110.h Apr 17 16:13:36 pH5: right, but nowhere are define sa1100_gpio0 = 0 Apr 17 16:13:37 mrdata: ok, so it's just a misuse. a value of 1 means gpio 1 in the gpio api. Apr 17 16:14:22 mrdata: that's because those constants were defined at a time when there was no more than one gpio register, probably. don't use them with gpio.h Apr 17 16:14:28 pH5: i have seen this, but for now is not eqal in sa1100.h Apr 17 16:16:02 pH5: and where should this values are define? Apr 17 16:16:31 pH5: for now, there is nothing for that, i think Apr 17 16:17:12 mrdata: you are right. and it seems there is no single place where gpio number constants are defined, currently. Apr 17 16:17:26 pxa stuffs them in asm/arch/pxa-regs.h for example. Apr 17 16:18:08 pH5: okay, i have seen that this only happend for platform sa1100 Apr 17 16:20:04 pH5: and therefor i make my little suggestion, if you think, that are extra defines for sa1100_gpio are neccessary, okay Apr 17 16:20:11 psokolovsky: do you have any idea what might be causing #2115? Apr 17 16:20:16 !oebug 2115 Apr 17 16:20:17 * * Bug 2115, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-16 00:33 Apr 17 16:20:18 * * hvontres(AT)gmail.com: qte-2.3.10 fails to build for distro openzaurus-3.5.5 and bitbake 1.8.1 Apr 17 16:20:19 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2115 Apr 17 16:20:45 mrdata: I think new defines for the sa1100 would be necessary. Apr 17 16:22:32 pH5: this is a job for russell king, right? Apr 17 16:22:36 no idea where to put them. s3c has asm/arch/regs-gpio.h, omap has asm/arch/mux.h - different for every arch. think of a sensible name and submit to rmk, I guess. Apr 17 16:22:49 mrdata: yes Apr 17 16:25:45 hvontres|poodle: nope, sorry, OZ has own OE branch, have no idea what's there Apr 17 16:28:01 psokolovsky: oz 3.5.5 is in .dev Apr 17 16:28:19 oops, then dunno Apr 17 16:28:28 but now when collie has sd/mmc driver I think that OZ will not happen rather Apr 17 16:28:59 hvontres|poodle: so, it's same static qte build? Apr 17 16:30:14 err, non-mt Apr 17 16:30:16 hvontres|poodle: those defines could come from kernel (even though I'd think glibc likely hosts them still). anyway, I didn't build non-mt qte ever. Apr 17 16:32:26 psokolovsky: the thing is, I get the same error for both mt and non-mt builds... Apr 17 16:51:00 Hello Apr 17 17:12:14 http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=231133&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=18767547 Apr 17 17:54:55 ~seen gremlin[it] Apr 17 17:55:55 gremlin[it] was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 9d 10h 16m 22s ago, saying: 'happy easter to all !!! '. Apr 17 18:27:08 !oebug 2121 Apr 17 18:27:09 * * Bug 2121, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-17 11:26 Apr 17 18:27:10 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: Cross compile badness and ICL in poppler Apr 17 18:27:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2121 Apr 17 18:31:26 why doesn't task-base depend on task-base-usbgadget? Apr 17 18:34:55 !oebug 2122 Apr 17 18:34:56 * * Bug 2122, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-17 11:34 Apr 17 18:34:57 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: libgemwidget build failure Apr 17 18:34:59 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2122 Apr 17 18:44:21 could anybody please look into oebugs 2121 and 2122? Apr 17 18:52:00 slapin_nb: no idea about 2121, but 2122 is a API change in gtk after 2.6 afaik. Apr 17 18:52:32 you can build gpephone with gtk 2.6 or somehow make the gpephone guys fix this for 2.10 :) Apr 17 18:58:12 pH5, as for 2121 it is configure bug - when you disable qt build, it enables test for it and finds it on host system Apr 17 18:58:45 pH5, configure.ac line ~205 Apr 17 19:00:15 pH5, 2122 bugs me when I build meta-sdk-sbox-gpe, is it possible to make smaller image? I want to use it to develop small GPE app under scratchbox. Apr 17 19:36:24 night all Apr 17 19:44:12 is there a convention for dealing with packages who's name changes? Apr 17 19:44:28 In my case, openpbx.org is being renamed to callweaver Apr 17 19:48:05 is there something that needs to be added in a final revision of the pld package recipe? I see the new package recipe should contain the REPLACES directive... but is there anytihng more to it, to get the package update process to recognize the name change? Apr 17 19:50:43 !oebug 2121 Apr 17 19:50:44 * * Bug 2121, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-17 11:26 Apr 17 19:50:45 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: Cross compile badness and ICL in poppler Apr 17 19:50:46 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2121 Apr 17 19:50:59 I added patch, somebody please push Apr 17 20:13:01 koen|away, Apr 17 20:17:21 pH5, ping Apr 17 20:22:45 slapin_nb: your patch seems ok. I'll verify and then push it. Apr 17 20:23:00 philippe: thanks. Apr 17 20:23:04 unless somebody is faster :-) Apr 17 20:24:07 pH5, thanks a lot Apr 17 20:31:05 slapin_nb: hmmm, having that extra --disable-poppler-qt4 in the inc file might be bad for previous versions... Apr 17 20:31:08 * philippe tests Apr 17 20:36:21 ~seen zecke Apr 17 20:36:56 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 11h 10m 54s ago, saying: 'sureshkumar: this totally depends on your mobile operator'. Apr 17 20:38:46 philippe, any problems with patch? Apr 17 20:39:55 slapin_nb: no. I just checked all the other files and none of them actually includes the inc file. So I will push it Apr 17 20:40:18 philippe, thanks a lot! Apr 17 20:44:05 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * re3cc176f... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Apr 17 20:44:05 poppler: fix bug #2121 Apr 17 20:44:05 packages/poppler/poppler.inc Apr 17 20:44:05 * added extra --disable-qt4 and bumped PR Apr 17 20:44:07 packages/poppler/poppler_0.5.4.bb Apr 17 20:44:09 * bumping PR accordinly Apr 17 20:44:13 Thanks to Sergey Lapin for the patch Apr 17 22:21:16 re Apr 17 22:21:27 hrw: wb Apr 17 22:21:39 I got Dell D400 Apr 17 22:21:57 my condolances Apr 17 22:21:59 12", pentium M 1.6GHz, 512M ram, 40G hdd Apr 17 22:22:08 koen: ;D Apr 17 22:22:11 I hope you have warranty Apr 17 22:22:15 I have Apr 17 22:22:42 Crofton__: 'we' also want omap boards, not only davince boards :) Apr 17 22:23:07 koen: nokia800 kernel got some addons in Poky Apr 17 22:24:11 hrw: ah, cool Apr 17 22:24:13 I also noticed mb-wm2 Apr 17 22:24:15 ehm Apr 17 22:24:17 1.2 Apr 17 22:24:20 yes Apr 17 22:24:27 hrw: btw, your boss i standing behind me :) Apr 17 22:24:39 OE differ from Poky so I decided to left it for you Apr 17 22:24:58 koen: Matthew stepped on your cable? :D Apr 17 22:25:04 :) Apr 17 22:25:44 I know one method of Debian install more Apr 17 22:25:58 koen: He said you were next to him earlier :) Apr 17 22:26:32 :D Apr 17 22:30:39 ~lart BIOS which can boot from card reader (multiport one) Apr 17 22:30:39 * ibot stuffs BIOS which can boot from card reader (multiport one) into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it Apr 17 22:31:22 koen: are you working for openedhand now? Apr 17 22:31:54 koen, how is the conference? Apr 17 22:31:57 mreimer_: no, I'm at ELC2007 :) Apr 17 22:32:11 koen: ah :-) Enjoy! Apr 17 22:32:17 thanks Apr 17 22:32:40 koen: welcome to my continent (well, not my *personal* continent, but you know what I mean) Apr 17 22:46:57 koen: speaking about warranty.. just checked - 15.12.2007 Apr 17 22:48:25 mickeyl: http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/04/18/3rdparty-chargers-for-neo1973/ Apr 17 22:57:23 * koen looks at http://www.kwikbyte.com/KBAT9261.html Apr 17 23:03:26 koen_: you should go toy shopping here before you leave: http://shop2.outpost.com/isp/sanjose.html Apr 17 23:04:06 cu all Apr 17 23:04:16 hvontres1poodle: mallum is taking us to frys :) Apr 17 23:05:08 koen_: just remember, their sales droids are not the sharpest..so don;t abuse them too much..:) Apr 17 23:25:33 wooo Apr 17 23:25:39 one patch to bluez-utils less :) Apr 17 23:31:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r94e09820... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-utils.inc): bluez-utils: mark patch as applied Apr 18 00:28:56 stefan_schmidt: there? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 18 02:59:56 2007