**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 18 02:59:56 2007 Apr 18 06:46:54 koen: up late? Apr 18 06:47:11 yeah Apr 18 06:50:08 koen: so did mallum drag you guys to the toystrore yet? Apr 18 08:03:32 morning Apr 18 08:03:59 hi xora Apr 18 08:05:45 morning all Apr 18 08:07:38 hi likewise Apr 18 08:08:02 woglinde: hi, long time no "see" Apr 18 08:08:40 likewise I mostly learned last week *g* Apr 18 08:08:47 but didnt help Apr 18 08:09:28 hi psokolvsky Apr 18 08:17:13 morning Apr 18 08:17:41 yo hrw Apr 18 08:17:48 hi hrw Apr 18 08:18:05 * hrw fights with PXE boot today Apr 18 08:19:10 hrw why you need networkbooting? Apr 18 08:19:36 woglinde: I need to boot my Dell laptop to install Debian on it Apr 18 08:19:55 woglinde: I do not remember where my 64M pendrive is Apr 18 08:20:52 you have no ther usbstick? Apr 18 08:21:24 hrw: I thought you polish guys could emulate pendrives with a zx81 and sound chip :-D Apr 18 08:21:29 woglinde: I do not use usb sticks Apr 18 08:21:33 XorA: hahaha Apr 18 08:21:41 xora lol Apr 18 08:21:50 hrw hm time to start they a cheap Apr 18 08:21:51 XorA: I never touched zx81 or zx spectrum Apr 18 08:22:01 XorA: once used Timex2048 Apr 18 08:22:04 hrw: C64 man? Apr 18 08:22:09 XorA: JIL Apr 18 08:22:41 hrw: got a link? Apr 18 08:23:17 XorA: I did not slept well so... Apr 18 08:26:21 progress Apr 18 08:27:42 bbiab Apr 18 08:29:06 booted into debian install Apr 18 08:29:21 hrw the new installer? Apr 18 08:29:24 from 4.0? Apr 18 08:29:33 woglinde: yes - but in text mode Apr 18 08:29:37 hehe Apr 18 08:29:49 woglinde: I like that text one Apr 18 08:29:50 I havent look into it yet Apr 18 08:30:04 I installed my first debian 97 Apr 18 08:30:28 woglinde: my first was slink on amiga Apr 18 08:31:10 gah these people with MMU capable amigas Apr 18 08:32:31 ;) Apr 18 08:32:40 XorA: MMU & FPU Apr 18 08:34:19 at that time linux did not had fpu emulation for m68k Apr 18 08:39:13 http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/tour_of_the_Debian_4.0_CDs/, Apr 18 08:46:22 My dad's Apple ][e had an MMU. Apr 18 08:46:53 Timelord0: ][e has 65816/4MHz cpu? Apr 18 08:47:04 mm. no. it was in GS Apr 18 08:47:29 Timelord0: ][ used MOS 6502 cpu - still no linux for it Apr 18 08:48:27 His ][e had an MMU. I know this because the chip died and we had to buy a new one. Apr 18 08:49:15 Of course he had a lot of crazy shit in it. Pimped out for its time. :D Apr 18 08:49:19 Timelord0: each computer had MMU - but not always MMU means MMU :D Apr 18 08:49:34 Ah. Of course not. That would be too easy. *facepalms* Apr 18 08:50:22 There is an overpriced and absolutely useless CPM board as well in it. Apr 18 08:51:11 Sweet jeebus. 39DVDs for 4.0. Apr 18 08:51:19 I think that is getting a bit excessive. Apr 18 08:52:42 Timelord0: all archs = 39 DVD Apr 18 08:53:31 Ah. Yes. Not as insane. Apr 18 08:53:57 I was trying to figure out how the hell it grew so much. :P Apr 18 08:54:12 iirc it is 4-5 DVD per arch Apr 18 08:54:35 and I am installing via netboot... Apr 18 08:54:45 I do wish they would release double layer isos. Apr 18 08:55:07 Timelord0: you can create such ones with jidgo Apr 18 08:55:36 or do sensible thing and not burn it to volatile formats like DVD :-) Apr 18 08:56:24 hrw: No, someone who knows how might be able to do such. I cannot. ;) Apr 18 08:56:43 XorA: That is a can of worms we need not get in to. :P Apr 18 09:08:03 morning' Apr 18 09:23:09 is there substantial difference between GPE and Angrstrom?? Apr 18 09:23:37 djay-il angstroem ist the collection of all Apr 18 09:25:33 so, building angstrom would be as good as building gpe-image? Apr 18 09:26:22 hm Apr 18 09:26:49 in some ways yes Apr 18 09:27:10 look at the meta.bb for the changes Apr 18 09:27:27 there are no small .bb for gpe-images Apr 18 09:27:47 if you build gpe-image you will need 7 gig of space and a lot of times Apr 18 09:28:05 because it will build firefox thunderbird gnumeric and a lot of other packages Apr 18 09:28:24 well, I'm at ~50% now and I have a problem because X doesn't compile. I don't know how to solve it Apr 18 09:28:36 hm which error? Apr 18 09:28:41 sec Apr 18 09:28:53 please use paste.net Apr 18 09:29:17 http://pastebin.ca/444699 Apr 18 09:29:18 pastebin.ca Apr 18 09:29:22 okay Apr 18 09:29:26 yea :-) Apr 18 09:30:36 hm strange Apr 18 09:31:32 I know Apr 18 09:31:32 why the heck a X11 varibale is used in glibc headers Apr 18 09:32:09 the question here, is whether it is a problem with compile environment or with the package? Apr 18 09:32:44 hm you can looked at the sys/types.h for why it is in there Apr 18 09:33:06 which sys/types.h? system-wide? Apr 18 09:33:48 no at /stuff/build/conf/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/sys/types.h Apr 18 09:35:31 and which X variable is that? Apr 18 09:36:38 error: redefinition of typedef 'x86emuuint' Apr 18 09:37:05 well, there's no such typedef in that file :-( Apr 18 09:37:13 there's just uint Apr 18 09:38:02 I can try to comment it out Apr 18 09:38:13 hm Apr 18 09:38:40 strange indeed Apr 18 09:39:31 /stuff/build/conf/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/sys/types.h:153: error: redefinition of typedef 'x86emuuint' Apr 18 09:39:45 whats on line 153 in this file? Apr 18 09:40:05 yea, and I have no pattern in that .h file which includes 'x86' Apr 18 09:40:22 yeah but what is than on line 153? Apr 18 09:40:30 hold on Apr 18 09:41:02 "typedef unsigned int uint" Apr 18 09:44:38 hm Apr 18 09:44:43 strange Apr 18 09:44:49 yea Apr 18 09:45:48 TeX users: http://www.fauskes.net/pgftikzexamples/all/ Apr 18 09:49:39 hrw that means graphivz is useless now? Apr 18 09:49:39 woglinde: well, there's something else: there's a define in /stuff/build/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/xserver-xorg-X11R7.1-1.1.0-r3/xorg-server-X11R7.1-1.1.0/hw/xfree86/int10/../x86emu/x86emu/types.h Apr 18 09:50:10 and then the same "typedef unsigned int uint" in that file later on Apr 18 09:50:27 and it conflicts with sys/types.h Apr 18 09:50:45 djay hm I never stumbeld over this error Apr 18 09:51:07 any ideas to work it out? Apr 18 09:51:30 hm Apr 18 09:51:45 try to comment one out Apr 18 09:51:51 and start compile again Apr 18 09:55:52 ok Apr 18 10:07:13 * djay-il is compiling now Apr 18 10:15:14 Nahttp://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7803461096.html - new intel cpu Apr 18 10:16:27 hrw yes but for settopboxes Apr 18 10:16:33 no mobile devices Apr 18 10:22:32 woglinde: well, it seems to have passed that stage... Apr 18 10:23:06 djay-il did you comment the X11 or the glibc header? Apr 18 10:26:25 I commented "typedef unsigned int uint" Apr 18 10:26:32 glibc Apr 18 10:26:46 hm Apr 18 10:26:57 that can kill you with other applications Apr 18 10:27:05 I think though, that X11 would be better Apr 18 10:27:09 more correct Apr 18 10:27:27 but then again, it should be discovered why do they conflict Apr 18 10:27:28 maybay you have an older archive Apr 18 10:27:34 archive? Apr 18 10:29:04 x11 tar ball Apr 18 10:29:19 well, what's the latest? Apr 18 10:31:40 hm seems okay Apr 18 10:31:56 are you build xserver or xserver-kdrive? Apr 18 10:36:21 morning all Apr 18 10:36:29 hey RP Apr 18 10:36:32 hi rp :) Apr 18 10:36:47 time for food Apr 18 10:36:55 woglinde: xserver Apr 18 11:40:10 robtaylor: You asked for me this night? Apr 18 12:12:14 http://wind-drifter.com/TonyAuth_Blacksburg_CityLimits.gif Apr 18 12:12:41 According to this map, I live in Washington State (upper left hand corner) Apr 18 12:43:13 good morning Dr Lauer :) Apr 18 12:47:06 * mickeyl bows Apr 18 12:47:09 good morning Richard :) Apr 18 12:56:26 http://pastebin.ca/446352 Apr 18 12:56:33 could anyone look at this? Apr 18 13:24:06 morning Apr 18 13:38:22 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb8d7366e... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/collie-2.6.conf): collie-2.6: ship all kernel modules now Apr 18 13:38:27 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb2448d9d... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/collie-2.6.conf): collie-2.6: ship wifi support too Apr 18 13:39:02 gm everyone, and it is a wonderful morning Apr 18 13:39:22 * XorA hides from an overly cheerful merkin Apr 18 13:56:04 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r2fb07c3a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): miniclipboard: Fix Makefile issues. Apr 18 13:56:09 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf08ffdcd... 10/ (1 conf/machine/palmtx.conf): palmtx.conf: Add some useful modules. Apr 18 13:56:15 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra5227500... 10/ (1 conf/machine/htctornado.conf): htctornado.conf: New machine description for HTC Tornado and similar phones. Apr 18 13:56:23 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb0abbd2e... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: Update my record, add machines and interests. Apr 18 13:56:30 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra2d76b80... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): linux-tornado-omap2: New kernel package for HTC Tonado and similar devices. Apr 18 13:56:40 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r942f3601... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-tornado-omap2_2.6.16.16.bb): linux-tornado-omap2: Some cleanup Apr 18 13:56:48 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r2a9f522b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tslib: Add dummy script for HTC Tornado without touchscreen. Disables pointer in X. Apr 18 14:03:50 good morning all Apr 18 14:06:06 hi Apr 18 14:09:16 hi koen_ Apr 18 14:13:00 hey djay-il Apr 18 14:17:11 yo koen Apr 18 14:17:30 yo XorA Apr 18 14:17:50 XorA: lm8... on the neo, is that the national amp? Apr 18 14:17:59 koen: lm4857 Apr 18 14:18:16 XorA: alsactl oopses the kernel in marcel's neo inside the lm4875 bit Apr 18 14:18:28 koen: ooops :-) Apr 18 14:18:45 koen: can you email the oops or log it in bugtracker + how to repeat Apr 18 14:19:23 I'll poke marcel to do that Apr 18 14:19:30 hi guys ! Apr 18 14:19:50 koen: although I cant promise anything as thats an lm part :-) Apr 18 14:20:12 ~lart ADSL for being down Apr 18 14:20:13 * ibot blasts ADSL with a huge firehose then strangles ADSL with it for being down Apr 18 14:21:43 how can I get rid of .debug directory from a non -dbg package ? I used the FILES_${PN}-dbg += ".." and have no QA issue anymore, but I noticed an empty .debug directory remains in the non -dbg package .. Apr 18 14:25:53 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r61dea447... 10/ (1 conf/machine/htctornado.conf): Apr 18 14:25:53 htctornado.conf: Remove duplicate MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER Apr 18 14:25:53 * MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER = "task-base" is default now, and recently there Apr 18 14:25:53 was a refactor to clear dups throughout machine files, so be consistent with Apr 18 14:25:53 other machines. Apr 18 14:25:59 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r172b1c53... 10/ (1 conf/machine/palmtx.conf): palmtx.conf: Wrap long lines and fix obvious typos. Apr 18 14:28:43 I have a ARM system running 2.6.20 kernel, and kdrive Xwindows. When I start X, there is a cursor blinking in the X background -- I assume it is coming through from the text console that was running before X was started. Has anyone else seen this? Apr 18 14:29:46 Hi! Apr 18 14:30:11 cbrake: you run X on vt which has getty running? Apr 18 14:30:26 psokolovsky_: morning :) Apr 18 14:30:38 cbrake: Sounds like a broken framebuffer driver. Is the cursor hardware accelerated? Apr 18 14:30:45 cyrilRomain: that's interesting q, when you find out, tell me ;-) for now, packages which don't have that issue, appear to pretty explicitly enumerate what to put in FILES_${PN} Apr 18 14:31:28 hrw: yes Apr 18 14:31:52 RP: nod, I'll check fb driver Apr 18 14:35:04 RP: it is a PXA270 running 2.6.20 Apr 18 14:36:42 psokolovsky_: interesting. I thought the .debug folder was moved when specified in FILES_${PN}. well not a critical issue anyway... but if you find out, tell me too ;-) Apr 18 14:36:45 koen: what type of touchscreen is on the n800 Apr 18 14:37:31 XorA: I have no idea Apr 18 14:37:39 mine's a few thousand km away Apr 18 14:38:18 koen: fairy nuff Apr 18 14:40:46 hrw: RP: getty does not make any difference. 2.6.16 works fine, and I don't seen any significant differences between the fb drivers between 2.6.16 and 2.6.20. Apr 18 14:43:02 cbrake: The cursor should be getting disabled in graphics mode and it sounds like its not for some reason Apr 18 14:43:32 cbrake: Its strange as I've not noticed it on other pxa270s under 2.6.20 Apr 18 14:44:04 btw, angstrom x11 doesn't disable X cursor, pretty sucks Apr 18 14:46:37 RP: if I start X from an init script, I see the problem, if don't start X from init script and start it from a ssh shell, I don't see the problem. Apr 18 14:56:08 I asked this yesterday but didn't see the reply. Is there something I can put in a recipe to indicate that package is being replaced by X for the outgoing package? I see that REPLACES should be used for the incoming package, but is there anything needed in a final revision of the outgoing package? Apr 18 14:58:13 hillct: thats a bit of a mad thought, that means you have to issue a new version of old package to replace it Apr 18 14:58:23 hillct: the answer is of course nothing Apr 18 14:59:19 yeah. still, figured I better ask. thanks Apr 18 15:02:17 Crofton: Strange :/ Apr 18 15:02:26 cbrake: strange, even :/ Apr 18 15:22:23 psokolovsky_: I fixed two more QA issues in #2123. Could you take a look at the patches later and get them into OE? Apr 18 15:22:30 !oebug 2123 Apr 18 15:22:31 * * Bug 2123, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-18 08:06 Apr 18 15:22:32 * * hvontres(AT)gmail.com: Fixed QA issues for opie-image Apr 18 15:22:33 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2123 Apr 18 15:23:29 hi fellas, anyone can help me with X building problems? Apr 18 15:47:55 ... Apr 18 15:55:10 * cbrake suspects his X startup method is flawed, may be time to look at xinit and friends Apr 18 15:57:46 cbrake: Poky has an example that uses xinit Apr 18 15:59:31 RP: thanks, I'll check that out. Firing off Xfbdev from an init script does seem to be cutting it. Apr 18 16:00:07 have anyone here compiled Xorg 7.1? Apr 18 16:08:57 djay-il: many times Apr 18 16:09:53 RP: xserver-kdrive-common? Apr 18 16:11:41 re Apr 18 16:12:00 gm Apr 18 16:12:25 cbrake: That and maybe xserver-nodm-init Apr 18 16:13:10 hrw: can you maybe help me do it? Apr 18 16:14:08 djay-il: machine/distro? Apr 18 16:14:14 machine Apr 18 16:14:46 compulab-pxa270 Apr 18 16:15:06 distro: generic Apr 18 16:18:15 currently it fails on linking stage Apr 18 16:18:35 with lots undefined references to Xkb stuff Apr 18 16:19:14 djay-il: forget about generic - use angstrom-2007.1 Apr 18 16:19:14 hvontres|poodle: thanks! will have a look today-tomorrow Apr 18 16:19:44 psokolovsky_: np. I might add more if they come up...Running task 3281 of 3816 Apr 18 16:19:49 hrw: I'll look at merging n800 stuff from poky when I get back Apr 18 16:19:54 koen: ok Apr 18 16:20:05 koen: poky will stay at armv5te for n800 Apr 18 16:20:12 I read that Apr 18 16:20:21 that's policy :) Apr 18 16:21:53 ;D Apr 18 16:22:04 hrw: would I need to recompile everything? Apr 18 16:22:23 djay-il: yes. but it is working atleast Apr 18 16:22:29 ok, thanks Apr 18 16:24:36 btw, what is distro? how does it affect building? Apr 18 16:24:58 djay-il: angstrom has many things pinpointed to working versions Apr 18 16:25:54 I heard that already...but what is DISTRO? I can't find it in docs... Apr 18 16:26:37 DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" Apr 18 16:27:21 I did that, but what it does? Apr 18 16:27:36 technically I mean Apr 18 16:34:00 hi all Apr 18 16:37:53 hi all Apr 18 17:05:12 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r4f869aa5... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/linphone_1.5.0.bb): linphone: Some workarounds to get rid of build system issues. Apr 18 17:13:17 cu Apr 18 17:13:25 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf9ad1bcb... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gpe-session-scripts-phone: Supress messages on phones, do not add mbdock apps. Apr 18 17:16:04 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * rd239d8e4... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Apr 18 17:16:04 conf/distro/nylon.conf, conf/machine/mtx-3a.conf, classes/nylon-image.bbclass: Apr 18 17:16:04 * formally added (experimental, ARM-based) mtx-3a hardware platform used by nylon Apr 18 17:16:09 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r8d465d2b... 10/ (1 packages/bsdiff): bsdiff: new package (binary diff / patch) Apr 18 17:16:17 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * rb00ff507... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): ifplugd: added nylon-specific fix for compilation problems with linux-kernel-headers Apr 18 17:16:31 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r7544524f... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): madwifi: added package for madwifi-modules 0.9.3 Apr 18 17:16:36 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r8f504c45... 10/ (1 packages/libloki): libloki: new package (C++ class library for design patterns) Apr 18 17:16:40 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r84b638bd... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): linux-mtx-2: fixed acm driver to produce more stable behaviour with HSDPA datacards Apr 18 17:16:44 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r89bbeff9... 10/ (6 files in 6 dirs): busybox: updated nylon defconfig files (no more vi- and bzip2-support) Apr 18 17:16:48 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * rdd161b53... 10/ (1 packages/elvis/elvis_2.2.0.bb): elvis: set download url to a resource which actually exists Apr 18 17:16:54 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r4d5fc50f... 10/ (1 packages/hostap/hostap-daemon/init): hostap: fixed typo in init script Apr 18 17:16:59 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r3036f05f... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): nylon images: added support for experimental mtx-3a machine Apr 18 17:17:03 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r08da3bd3... 10/ (1 packages/librcf/librcf_0.4.bb): librcf: added a working download url Apr 18 17:17:10 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * rf61c1a56... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-libc-headers: added nylon-specific append to do_stage making sure that some headers are found where expected Apr 18 17:17:15 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * rc0ddedff... 10/ (1 packages/nylon/simple-firewall.bb): simple-firewall: upped srcdate Apr 18 17:17:25 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * rb62da046... 10/ (1 packages/meta/nylon-feed.bb packages/meta/nylon-feed.inc): nylon-feed: removed two packages which currently do not compile Apr 18 17:17:30 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r2620a9b5... 10/ (1 packages/quilt/quilt_0.45.bb): quilt: added DEPEND on autoconf-native (>= 2.61) Apr 18 17:18:03 who Apr 18 17:19:38 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r3387d527... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-login/gpe-login_svn.bb): Apr 18 17:19:38 gpe-login: add new svn build recipe Apr 18 17:19:38 packages/gpe-login/gpe-login_svn.bb Apr 18 17:19:38 * new svn build recipe in question Apr 18 17:36:45 hvontres|poodle: I saw your request, I'll try to figure out gforge next week to approve it Apr 18 17:37:34 koen: am I correct to update OE with 'mtn update' ? Apr 18 17:41:24 mtn pull ; mtn up Apr 18 17:43:14 koen: np. Apr 18 17:45:25 hvontres|poodle: I messed up marcin's account and don't want to repeat that fiasco Apr 18 17:47:13 * florian knows a little bit about gforge Apr 18 17:47:17 koen: what pull does? Apr 18 17:47:38 pull in updates from the server Apr 18 18:03:47 and update? Apr 18 19:09:04 koen|away: around? Apr 18 19:12:59 re Apr 18 19:13:15 djay-il: "mtn pull && mtn update" done? Apr 18 19:13:26 ah, no, not yet Apr 18 19:13:42 I'm finishing some build, and then will do Apr 18 19:24:01 ok Apr 18 19:43:13 hi koen (; Apr 18 19:58:28 hi Apr 18 20:02:34 cu Apr 18 20:04:25 hey HopsNBarley Apr 18 20:05:13 hi koen Apr 18 20:05:37 hi koen_ Apr 18 20:06:26 hey chouimat Apr 18 20:08:24 off topic, but can this be right? bzip2 --best is running at about 1k/second on a 2.4GhZ machine? Apr 18 20:08:47 bzip2 is glacially slow Apr 18 20:09:07 * chouimat is playing with mtn and branches ... Apr 18 20:11:13 koen: is this something from OE: sed: file ./confstatr23252/subs-3.sed line 14: unterminated `s' command Apr 18 20:13:21 could be Apr 18 20:13:33 it usually means that you have a stray " somewhere Apr 18 20:46:04 later Apr 18 20:54:36 Hello Apr 18 21:04:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4ab3710b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): cairo: add 1.4.4 + Chris Wilsons workqueue patch Apr 18 21:07:01 koen_: Thanks for the early testing. Let us know how it goes. ;-) Apr 18 21:07:51 cworth: it didn't crash and feel fast enough :) Apr 18 21:08:00 feels* Apr 18 21:08:18 koen can you ping www.e-c.qc.ca for me? Apr 18 21:08:35 powerbook:~ koen$ ping http://www.e-c.qc.ca/ Apr 18 21:08:35 ping: cannot resolve http://www.e-c.qc.ca/: Unknown host Apr 18 21:08:42 D'oh Apr 18 21:08:52 koen http://... ;) Apr 18 21:08:56 * koen engages brain Apr 18 21:09:03 koen :) Apr 18 21:09:23 chouimat: looks pretty dead Apr 18 21:09:25 --- w3.e-c.qc.ca ping statistics --- Apr 18 21:09:25 24 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Apr 18 21:09:45 philippe: it's dead ... Apr 18 21:09:59 as dead as the UMPCs :) Apr 18 21:10:55 philippe: and I need to reach the moron that own that because he's the one with all the info I need to transfers my domain name, because obviously I won't be able to use his services anymore :) Apr 18 21:11:35 koen: I liked the request-counting report he made very much. :-) Apr 18 21:11:53 100k requests before, 0 after Apr 18 21:12:45 chouimat: that sucks Apr 18 21:12:59 koen, cworth : which request counter? Apr 18 21:13:18 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/cairo/2007-April/010381.html Apr 18 21:13:55 philippe: that option 1 ... option2 is to get a new domain name (hopefully close enough to the current one) Apr 18 21:14:11 koen: thanks! Mhh that looks good.. Apr 18 21:14:22 chouimat: good luck with it! Apr 18 21:15:09 http://www.jibble.org/myspace-hotlinking/ :) Apr 18 21:15:12 Any objections to me commiting the task dependency changes I proposed on the mailing list last week? Apr 18 21:15:25 philippe: luck? http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2523 <--- you will understand part of the problem ... it's getting better so I might write part 2 :) Apr 18 21:20:53 chouimat: is this the guy that consults the Virgin Mary on Hardware design? Apr 18 21:21:34 hvontres|poodle: yes Apr 18 21:21:48 hvontres|poodle: he seems also to consult the Gods Crack & Cocaine... Apr 18 21:21:54 chouimat: my condolences :) Apr 18 21:22:13 hvontres|poodle: it's ok ... I 'm surviving Apr 18 21:23:07 it's beautifull outside so I think I will go take a walk Apr 18 21:23:21 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r01dda772... 10/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Apr 18 21:23:21 classes: Add support for intertask dependencies to be specified, needed for Apr 18 21:23:21 correct operation with bitbake 1.8.x. Old behaviour is maintained in a special Apr 18 21:23:21 legacy anonymous function in base.bbclass. The patch is an improved version of Apr 18 21:23:21 the one discussed on the mailing list. Apr 18 21:24:30 Who is MartinDietze on irc? Apr 18 21:24:38 philippe: I think it the fact he stopped drinking coffee :) Apr 18 21:24:51 chouimat|away: anyway enjoy the walk :-) Apr 18 21:26:21 RP: dunno, but he's sure been busy today Apr 18 21:26:39 RP: I don't think he's on IRC Apr 18 21:27:01 ~curse Sharp's Bootloader Apr 18 21:27:04 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, Sharp's Bootloader ! Apr 18 21:27:28 hehe Apr 18 21:27:30 ~lart Sharp's Bootloader Apr 18 21:27:31 * ibot shoots Sharp's Bootloader in his sleep Apr 18 21:27:44 * hvontres|poodle was hoping for the kittens....... Apr 18 21:28:15 hehe Apr 18 21:28:20 koen: Lets hope he reads the mailing list Apr 18 21:28:22 hvontres|poodle: What is wrong with the bootloader? At least it boots linux. Apr 18 21:28:36 RP: cc him to be sure Apr 18 21:29:10 thesing: as long as you don't want to change the cmdline.... Apr 18 21:29:45 RP: you'll have to ask mickeyl for his email address, though Apr 18 21:29:49 * koen doesn't seem to have it Apr 18 21:29:57 koen: I was going to say, I don't have an address :/ Apr 18 21:30:16 * RP doesn't dare read through any more of his commits... Apr 18 21:30:54 ~emulate stewie Apr 18 21:30:58 ? Apr 18 21:31:08 Baby needs to suck ash! Apr 18 21:31:25 RP: I haven't looked at them, but I don't like the sound of it. Apr 18 21:31:39 RP: di@fh-wedel.de Apr 18 21:31:46 according to mailman Apr 18 21:31:49 hvontres|poodle: Can't you do this with kexec? Apr 18 21:32:02 thesing: not on arm :( Apr 18 21:32:22 thesing: at least not yet...feel free to hack kexec to do that Apr 18 21:32:59 thesing: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/collie/20070418/ has MMC_DEBUG enabled Apr 18 21:34:39 koen: good. So I guess not everybody will sent me his nonworking cards as hrw did ;) Apr 18 21:35:08 koen: Thanks, forwarded the mails Apr 18 21:35:33 hvontres|poodle: maybe after I get collie to wakeup from suspend ;) Apr 18 21:35:37 * RP isn't sure what to make of the quilt DEPENDS change Apr 18 21:36:07 thesing: is it not waking up at all or is the scrren just messed up? Apr 18 21:36:23 the screen even Apr 18 21:36:41 RP: revert it and tell him to please discuss things before touching base level stuff Apr 18 21:36:57 (might add a reason for why the change is bogus to it) Apr 18 21:37:33 hvontres|poodle: nothing happens. Apr 18 21:37:45 mickeyl: Have you looked at it? Its not exactly bogus but... Apr 18 21:38:01 thesing: hmm, I hate debugging those Apr 18 21:38:14 RP: no, didn't really look Apr 18 21:38:24 hvontres|poodle: no that's not right, if you suspend it with AC conntected, the charge_led changes if you unplug and replug it. Apr 18 21:38:34 * chouimat|away is really gone now ... see you after a few beers at the pub :) Apr 18 21:39:10 thesing: well, it's not completly hung then :) Apr 18 21:39:27 mickeyl: He added DEPENDS = "autoconf-native (>= 2.61)" to quilt_0.45.bb ... Apr 18 21:39:38 heh, oops Apr 18 21:39:44 do we support that syntax? Apr 18 21:40:03 mickeyl: Both bitbake 1.6 and 1.8 should accept and ignore it now Apr 18 21:40:17 mickeyl: That was step one in adding support for it... Apr 18 21:40:32 Its not actually wired to do anything yet Apr 18 21:40:36 hvontres|poodle: I will try to do some led-on-off style debugging. Apr 18 21:41:28 RP: lets see whether he's following the -devel Apr 18 21:41:31 g'night Apr 18 21:41:41 he mickeyl Apr 18 21:41:42 'night mickeyl Apr 18 21:41:45 if not, we need to use more drastic measures Apr 18 21:41:59 nite mickeyl Apr 18 21:42:02 n8 Apr 18 21:45:12 mickey|zzZZzz: I've cc'd him and the list asking why he made that change Apr 18 21:59:38 hi zecke Apr 18 22:03:04 hey :) Apr 18 22:05:05 night Apr 18 22:06:23 how are you? Apr 18 22:09:40 zecke: ok thanks. busy as usual ;-) Apr 18 22:10:38 zecke: you? Apr 18 22:12:30 busy but not code-wise :) Apr 18 22:12:58 I'm slowly starting to prepare for one of the two needed math exams.. Apr 18 22:13:07 I need to stop being an undergraduate :) Apr 18 22:13:21 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.8 * r813 10/ (ChangeLog lib/bb/cooker.py): cooker.py: Fix cache errors when generation dotGraphs Apr 18 22:13:49 zecke: It just gets worse, you then end up having to work for a living... Apr 18 22:14:16 RP: my living instead of the living of others (so progress) Apr 18 22:14:17 rp thats not the worsest Apr 18 22:14:26 woglinde: psst :) Apr 18 22:14:58 zecke will make his ph.d and hab Apr 18 22:15:13 and than we call him mad proffessor Apr 18 22:15:19 hehe, once I finish the VD :} Apr 18 22:17:01 03rpurdie * r814 10bitbake/ (ChangeLog lib/bb/cooker.py): cooker.py: Fix cache errors when generation dotGraphs Apr 18 22:18:06 woglinde: but I hear that "mad professor" often Apr 18 22:18:48 zecke the first robocup german open without fu Apr 18 22:19:23 woglinde: yes, and RoboCup wants to break rule 0 Apr 18 22:19:28 woglinde: and play with busines :} Apr 18 22:19:38 they must Apr 18 22:20:25 03rpurdie * r815 10bitbake/lib/bb/taskdata.py: taskdata.py: Add error message Apr 18 22:21:45 03rpurdie * r816 10bitbake/lib/bb/cache.py: cache.py: Add helpful debugging information to error message Apr 18 22:22:58 RP: but besides being busy you are doing well? Apr 18 22:23:42 hi Apr 18 22:24:20 zecke: Yes, although I need to get some exercise ;-) Apr 18 22:24:23 hi CoreDump|home Apr 18 22:34:53 nite all Apr 18 22:36:35 later pals :) Apr 18 22:38:15 'night zecke, woglinde Apr 18 22:51:26 RP: any hints on debugging the poodle screen corruption issue? (#2120) Apr 18 23:57:50 anybody a nasm expert? Apr 18 23:59:00 * T0mW slinks away Apr 18 23:59:06 ohhhh - gotcha Apr 18 23:59:16 I think I've seen that before, but no. Apr 18 23:59:17 * CosmicPenguin moves over to #edev to grill Tom Apr 18 23:59:32 you ever use it in a mixed C environment? Apr 18 23:59:36 no Apr 18 23:59:57 I need something like h2inc, but for nasm Apr 19 00:00:35 somewhere in the deep recesses of my pyschosis I recall tangling with it, but didn't do all that much with it at the time Apr 19 00:14:56 hm, does anybody knows some clever "pure-jffs2" replacement methods (on NAND flash)? i'm thinking about some squashfs+unionfs-on-jffs2 to reduce the size (jffs2 has, due to it's small compression block size, a very bad compression ratio) and probably also speed (flash access is SLOOOW.) Apr 19 00:15:37 * T0mW looks at the pretty code explosion Apr 19 00:20:49 tmbinc: have you considered yaffs? no built-in compression so if you need that then you need to compress data or use squashfs on top Apr 19 00:21:31 but should be faster for many use-cases, and certainly lower ram footprint Apr 19 00:22:15 but if size is your main prob than jffs2 is usually a better answer Apr 19 00:23:02 squashfs on yaffs could be an option, is that better than squashfs on some translation layer? Apr 19 00:23:57 jffs and yaffs are the only fs's really suitable for nand SFAIK - YAFFS was designed exclusively for it Apr 19 00:25:23 I'm not sure what squashfs+block layer is like, or if it even works on nand **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 19 02:59:56 2007