**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 20 02:59:57 2007 Apr 20 07:13:36 koen, is there any reason why glibc-intermediate gets build when i try to build matchbox and gtk ? Apr 20 07:13:53 koen, i am building glibc-2.5 by default Apr 20 07:35:38 koen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/qgil/465379096/in/photostream/ Apr 20 07:35:46 lol place change your nick to kuhn :) Apr 20 08:34:07 hello everyone Apr 20 08:35:10 I have made a fresh mtn update for org.openembedded.dev yesterday (I hadn't done one during more than one month) and although the recipe is still here, I cannot build mx31ads-kernel Apr 20 08:35:49 and bitbake bootstrap-image (configured for mx31ads) want to build me generic linux. Has something changed in kernel package build/configuration ? Apr 20 09:15:18 good morning Apr 20 10:11:52 morning Apr 20 11:39:10 gm Apr 20 12:53:45 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r742dd10a... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules: merge Apr 20 13:13:40 hello all Apr 20 13:18:09 morning likewise :) Apr 20 13:18:15 good morning Apr 20 13:41:42 morning all Apr 20 13:42:05 hey Richard Apr 20 13:43:46 lrg: congratulation for joining GMAE :) Apr 20 13:44:13 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rd2365533... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules/dm7025: update to 20070420, fp v7 Apr 20 13:44:16 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r4316b64f... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-secondstage.bb): dreambox-secondstage/dm7025: update to v51 Apr 20 13:45:11 zecke: thanks, I think it's important for silicon vendors to get involved. I think it's best when we all work together. Apr 20 13:45:34 :) Apr 20 13:45:49 I'm glad Intel joined as well, and sort of glad MVista tossed their two cents Apr 20 13:46:30 this results in "There is the community (GMAE) and there is Trolltech" Apr 20 13:46:30 zecke: fwiw we are just a minor player compared to some of the others. it's just XorA|gone and I and I really hope we can help with audio and PM things moving forward. Apr 20 13:47:20 morning Apr 20 13:47:29 zecke: do you have a link to the lwn subscriber page ? Apr 20 13:47:36 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb3121b15... 10/ (1 packages/dvbtools/dvbtune_cvs.bb): dvbtune: fix cvs SRC_URI Apr 20 13:47:40 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf80b9d9d... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2-streamproxy.bb): enigma2-streamproxy: update to 20070314 Apr 20 13:47:45 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rccb4703e... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: update to 20070420, rel2_2 Apr 20 13:47:46 lrg: no, I think we have to wait one week Apr 20 13:47:54 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf60b1d03... 10/ (1 packages/neon/neon_0.26.0.bb): neon-0.26.0: use this version by default Apr 20 13:51:32 lrg: I think ASoC has already moved audio forwards light years :) Apr 20 13:52:06 RP: thanks, I hope it has :) Apr 20 13:52:14 RP: working on i.MX31 now Apr 20 13:53:04 lrg: cool :) Apr 20 13:53:45 RP: although sadly, I've now been in my new house 3 weeks and still have no adsl :( Apr 20 13:54:01 RP: BT and Demon cant get their act together. Apr 20 13:54:19 RP: This will impact me for patches until it's fixed. Apr 20 13:54:31 lrg: Sadly it doesn't surprise me with BT being involved :-/ Apr 20 13:54:45 ~lart BT for being BT Apr 20 13:54:46 * ibot eats BT's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti for being BT Apr 20 13:55:03 I keep thinking of changing my provider but then I think of the pain and don't... Apr 20 13:55:43 hi lrg Apr 20 13:55:49 RP: it's also advisable never to move home.... Apr 20 13:55:54 hey vlo Apr 20 13:56:56 lrg: I'm going to have to at some point. Not enough space here :/ Apr 20 13:57:31 lrg: how are you doing with i.MX31 ? I've been hacking on it lately and it working great here ... I can't wait to get our first prototype of own design board Apr 20 13:58:42 vlo: cool. Quinn is starting to submit some good patches now. Wont be too long until vanilla will boot with some working drivers.... Apr 20 14:01:01 lrg: yep, it's a very good thing that it's is getting mainlined. I have followed this whole work very attentively. And the bsp rel3 was already much better (for instance spi driver is much cleaner and it uses kernel API which is very good) Apr 20 14:01:14 koen: ping? Apr 20 14:07:53 zecke: How much success did you have with the Greenphone? Apr 20 14:08:23 florian: well, mostly none as my serial refuses to work Apr 20 14:08:41 zecke: oops Apr 20 14:08:44 and I'm still schocked with the 17 binary only modules and need some spare time Apr 20 14:08:55 17! Apr 20 14:09:03 florian: do you have OE support for SkeyePad? Apr 20 14:09:13 florian: yes some for toggling GPIO's :) Apr 20 14:09:30 hrw: for the xsl? Apr 20 14:09:41 zecke: what a shame :-/ Apr 20 14:09:49 florian: the one which you had on fosdem Apr 20 14:12:07 florian: I spend most of my spare time sleeping or reading math textbooks Apr 20 14:12:19 florian: If you want to I could send you the gp to take a look Apr 20 14:14:38 hrw: basically yes... Ole (who is doing the most of the kernel work) just returned from vacations. As soon as he gets the Kernel into a more or less usable state I can upload a tarball and push OE support. Apr 20 14:14:58 zecke: sounds like you have a hard time ;) Apr 20 14:15:18 florian: great Apr 20 14:15:26 florian: I like math (I really do) Apr 20 14:15:38 florian: did you used usb gadget on it? Apr 20 14:16:14 hey when i build ecore-fp i get an error checking abstract sockets... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling Apr 20 14:16:19 how do i fix this? Apr 20 14:17:26 zecke: would be nice, but currently i don't have enough time and enough phones for hacking around. but if you think it takes longer till you return from your maths books i try to free up some time slot :) Apr 20 14:17:50 should angstrom-console-image require gtk to be built? Apr 20 14:18:12 is angstrom-console-image supposed to require gui components? Apr 20 14:18:25 shres: you need to add the variable that is checked there to the site file. Apr 20 14:19:09 cbrake: maybe a side effect of some task... do these end up in the images? Apr 20 14:19:20 florian: not sure yet, not finished building Apr 20 14:19:40 florian: it looks like avahi may be driving the building of gtk ... Apr 20 14:19:52 hrw: yes, but its still buggy Apr 20 14:21:00 florian: http://www.openembedded.org/~zecke/open_gp.jpg Apr 20 14:21:16 florian: that is my state, I'm pretty sure serial is there but the oszi is not showing anything Apr 20 14:22:37 zecke: did you try a simple rs232 tester? Apr 20 14:22:54 florian: in what way simple? Apr 20 14:23:02 I could have messed up with the max232 again :} Apr 20 14:23:25 bbl :) Apr 20 14:23:29 zecke: exactly :-) that would show as soon as some signal is wrong. Apr 20 14:23:42 hrw: Apr 20 14:24:22 cbrake: bitbake -g angstrom-console-image and check Apr 20 14:24:24 florian: I still need to short circuit both sides to see if I get an echo Apr 20 14:25:48 hrw: "avahi-autoipd" -> "gtk+" Apr 20 14:26:08 hrw: "task-distro-base" -> "avahi-autoipd" [style=dashed] Apr 20 14:27:00 florian, site file = site.conf ? Apr 20 14:28:00 shres: OE/site/* files Apr 20 14:28:11 yep Apr 20 14:29:10 cbrake: remove that dependency from avahi stuff please and test Apr 20 14:29:52 hrw: ok, will do. Apr 20 14:29:52 ok, forgive my ignorance but since i am building for arm v5, i guess i will add it arm-linux? Apr 20 14:30:10 * shres goes to read documentation instead of troubling people here more. Apr 20 14:30:54 cbrake: latest avahi contains libavahi-ui, which depends on gtk+. to build avahi without gtk, you have to add --disable-gtk EXTRA_OECONF again. Apr 20 14:31:00 cbrake: yes Apr 20 14:31:15 pH5: do we package it separatelly? Apr 20 14:32:20 hrw: does not look like it is package separately Apr 20 14:32:28 so it is bug Apr 20 14:32:44 hrw: nod Apr 20 14:33:12 hrw: wait, there is a libavahi-ui Apr 20 14:33:38 hrw: package, but it seems we should not be required to build it. Apr 20 14:34:19 cbrake: angstrom base images contain avahi Apr 20 14:35:08 hrw: yes, I just removed avahi from angstrom, and oe does not seem to be building gui components any more. Apr 20 14:35:54 hrw: what is the correct solution here -- I don't think it is acceptable to require build a ton of gui components just to get a console image. Apr 20 14:36:03 hrw: it's one source package. we could introduce an avahi-gtk flavour for angstrom-x11-image. Apr 20 14:37:03 pH5: it is matter of building avahi_2.6.18.bb with or without gtk? Apr 20 14:37:12 the same applies for the qt3/4 and python dependencies that are not built currently for the same reason. Apr 20 14:37:33 and in result one extra package is created which depend on gtk? Apr 20 14:37:40 hrw: yes, currently it's only libavahi-ui that introduces the gtk+ dependency, and it is not used by anything else yet. Apr 20 14:38:30 pH5: I think that we can disable gtk now - when something will need it we will enable gtk support and have to wait a bit longer with build Apr 20 14:38:59 python builds tcl/tk just for python-thinker (which no one use) Apr 20 14:39:11 we need macports variants and a sane way to configure them Apr 20 14:49:33 * cbrake files bug #2127 on this issue Apr 20 14:50:45 Yippee! My collie just woke up from suspend! Apr 20 14:51:58 Good evening Apr 20 14:53:13 thesing: great Apr 20 14:53:22 thesing: what do we lack on collie? Apr 20 14:54:40 hrw: suspend, usb and audio. I didn't try the touchscreen, as the gpe-image didn't build. Apr 20 14:57:36 thesing: tslib-tests is easier to install Apr 20 14:57:42 thesing: iirc TS works Apr 20 14:58:46 hrw: Thanks for the tip.I will try after I have the suspend fully working. Apr 20 14:59:21 thesing: look at tslib generated packages Apr 20 14:59:47 thesing: you will get ts_print, ts_print_raw (same as ts_print but without plugins usage), ts_calibrate Apr 20 15:00:32 hrw: BTW the cards didn't arrive yet. I hope the postal service didn't lose them. Apr 20 15:01:00 I hope too Apr 20 15:01:26 if they will lose them then contact Apr 20 15:02:51 I think that I can get some more cards then Apr 20 15:03:46 I don't think this will be necessary. They are not that bad. ;) Apr 20 15:04:02 1GB card can be bought for <10 eur now so I see no problem Apr 20 15:04:16 thesing: but cards are Apr 20 15:04:46 Hm. The CF interface doesn't survive suspend. Apr 20 15:05:48 thesing: interface or card? Apr 20 15:06:01 newer Cards seem to work better then the older ones. My 3 newer cards (about 1-2 years old) work. Apr 20 15:06:05 the interface. Apr 20 15:06:48 thesing: I sent you two very old ones Apr 20 15:07:10 ah. already spotted the error. I haven't enabled it after suspend ;) Apr 20 15:07:15 ;lD Apr 20 15:36:15 greetings, how can I have a directory included in a package? Apr 20 15:37:02 I've been using FILES_${PN} = "/path/to/binaries/*" which works fine for files, but not for an empty directory Apr 20 15:45:52 why not /path/to/dir use? Apr 20 15:53:15 hrw: I feel stupid, using FILES_${PV} = "/path/to/*" is working for me Apr 20 15:57:29 ;D Apr 20 15:57:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r08b9b7fc... 10/ (1 packages/avahi/avahi_0.6.18.bb): avahi: move libavahi-ui stuff to seperate packages Apr 20 15:59:03 koen|away: thanks! Apr 20 15:59:40 cbrake: it still depends on gtk+, though Apr 20 15:59:44 cbrake: anyway it will build gtk but console rootfs will not depend on it Apr 20 16:00:07 hrw: no, every avahi package rdepends on gtk now.... Apr 20 16:00:16 which is bad Apr 20 16:00:37 u.. fsck Apr 20 16:02:10 I can't really figure out why Apr 20 16:02:27 my machines builds poky sdk now Apr 20 16:11:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r431a527e... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-gmae.bb): task-gmae: add meta packages for the GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initiative Apr 20 16:46:58 http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/466251314/ :) Apr 20 16:50:54 grrr Apr 20 16:50:59 * philippe also wants to be at CELF Apr 20 16:52:57 well, it ended yesterday Apr 20 16:53:08 okay Apr 20 16:53:16 * philippe also wanted to ba at CELF :-) Apr 20 16:53:23 gah Apr 20 16:53:28 * koen messed up am and pm Apr 20 16:53:40 my flight leaves tomorrow 8:30 *a*m Apr 20 16:53:58 I have messed that up to, but not like that Apr 20 16:54:26 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r406806cf... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gpe-session-scripts-phone: Some updates to improve behaviour at session start. Apr 20 17:09:31 hi all Apr 20 17:20:37 Hmm, I see a recipe called task-gmae was added. Apr 20 17:21:04 But the recipes it references don't exist yet. Apr 20 17:22:23 I've just seen some screenshots of the openmoko UI, not sure if they are real or just some mockups and are really gorgeous. I would like something like that for the zaurus. What are they using, matchbox-*-2 ? Apr 20 17:25:00 * sirfred feels alone Apr 20 17:25:39 sirfred: yeah its real, but slow Apr 20 17:26:13 robtaylor: A known reason? Apr 20 17:26:16 robtaylor: Hi Apr 20 17:26:32 sirfred: early days, thats all Apr 20 17:26:40 So, there's hope. Apr 20 17:27:06 sirfred: well you can build openmoko in oe, so you can play with it yourself ;) Apr 20 17:27:16 * koen waves to robtaylor Apr 20 17:27:53 robtaylor: BTW, I went back into trying gstreamer in zaurus. Apr 20 17:28:10 robtaylor: Am I mistaken or we talked about that some weeks ago ? Apr 20 17:28:31 weeks, days, ... who knows Apr 20 17:29:29 Talking about UIs, what I dislike of gpe, is that... well, perhaps its a missconfiguration, but everything is too tiny Apr 20 17:30:21 And if I try to use greater fonts or icons, it looks bad: scaled icons, icon names truncated,... Apr 20 17:32:11 that's matchbox-desktop Apr 20 17:32:22 But openmoko ui, well, that's what I'm behind. Apr 20 17:32:48 Yes, the screen is 640x480 but what cares is DPI Apr 20 17:33:00 koen: :) Apr 20 18:05:38 sirfred: yeah, we did :) Apr 20 19:02:39 Crofton : http://www.techonline.com/electronics_directory/livewebinar/198800643 Apr 20 19:27:08 Anyone know the scoop on the berlios outage? Apr 20 21:36:31 NAiL: noticed that uClibc 0.9.29_rc1 was released? Apr 20 21:36:48 nope Apr 20 21:38:16 NAiL: you are using buildroot for PowerPC, right? Apr 20 21:39:03 I built my first working jffs2 image less than an hour ago Apr 20 21:40:03 NAiL: Congrats! Using BR, or OE? Apr 20 21:40:06 HopsNBarley: Hello there Apr 20 21:40:23 likewise: using BR. Have plenty of OE ones ;) Apr 20 21:40:46 hi likewise! Apr 20 21:42:21 HopsNBarley: met with koen? Apr 20 22:15:36 hrw: ping Apr 20 22:16:00 likewise? Apr 20 22:16:12 pong Apr 20 22:18:00 mreimer_: you have luck ;) Apr 20 22:18:09 hrw: :-) Apr 20 22:19:01 hrw: I saw your commit to libxslt a while back to add the destdir patch. It works for libxslt, but breaks libxslt-native. What's the best way to fix this? Duplicate the patch in a new dir libxslt-native-1.1.17? Apr 20 22:19:35 w8 - I have a look Apr 20 22:20:35 "mtn rename libxslt-1.1.17 files --execute" should fix it Apr 20 22:20:55 hrw: ok, I'll do it. Commit it if it builds? Apr 20 22:21:02 commit Apr 20 22:21:08 hrw: thanks Apr 20 22:24:27 np Apr 20 22:29:38 cu Apr 20 22:29:48 nite hrw Apr 20 22:36:03 03mreimer 07org.oe.dev * rc7fbc0cb... 10/ (1 packages/libxslt/libxslt-1.1.17 packages/libxslt/files): Apr 20 22:36:03 libxslt-native: fix by renaming the patch dir libxslt-1.1.17 to 'files'. Apr 20 22:36:03 Obtained from hrw. Apr 20 22:54:30 good nite chaps! Apr 20 23:35:37 Hi folks, sorry to disturb. Need help to contact the admin of the OESF forum. $ month ago I tried to register to be able to post on the OESF forums. But unfortunately, I didn't had my account validate it seems. 1 week ago, I tried to creat a news account, but it was the same (when I try to register, I got like my accounts don't exist). I tried to get support from admin@oesf.org . Mailing to this from my yahoo account, I got the follow Apr 20 23:40:23 Apr 20 23:53:32 Well , googling a little : I found this post , related to the same email problem :http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21955 . So from 2006 ( the first time I tried to register, It seems the nobody was able to contact the admin@oesf.org , so nobody has been able to register to the oesf forum. Apr 20 23:54:14 So pleasese could somebody, that has access to the oesf forum Apr 20 23:54:37 hidoufr: oesf != #oe Apr 20 23:54:38 try to keep in touch with those people Apr 20 23:55:58 ... mmh .. thanks Nabyss . I know that . Apr 20 23:58:11 but I which I could find somebody here, that might have already registered to the oesf. The pb. is that I don't have any other way to try to reach those people. I would have avoided to get into this IRC channel as you imagine . Apr 20 23:59:32 oe != oesf .... I know that ... but oe close from oesf ... and you might have people from oe that might post to oesf. Apr 21 00:03:08 NAbyss for example , looking at http://www.openembedded.org/contact , you see that one of the channel is #openzaurus Apr 21 00:03:34 and people from openzaurus got a forum section in oesf forum . Apr 21 00:05:19 the problem that I have might impact a lot of people that eventually would like to join those forums ( and contribute the discussion in oesf from openzaurus , pdaxrom ... etc ... and on ) Apr 21 00:21:10 Oki ... :( .... well keep continuing doing a good job with your dev. work. Just know that users number in the forums OESF / sections Openzaurus / Opie ... etc ... won't increase anymore until the issue is fixed. And for what I see , it has been like that for a while (2006) , and if nobody is taking this issue seriously , in a PROACTIVE way, it will continij Apr 21 00:21:20 continue being the same Apr 21 00:21:27 regards Apr 21 00:24:37 * NAiL notes that hidoufr might've had more luck if he bothered hanging around for a while Apr 21 00:34:13 anyone know why building python packages results in packages with no files? e.g. python-pygtk2 Apr 21 00:34:18 using angstrom Apr 21 02:53:50 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r647c56ef... 10/ (19 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Apr 21 02:53:50 perl: Add 5.8.8 and use DEFAULT_PREFERENCE to disable it until more Apr 21 02:53:50 testing is done. Apr 21 02:53:50 Main differences from the 5.8.7 recipe are: Apr 21 02:53:50 * Always use gcc to link. Same arch's require this, while others can Apr 21 02:53:51 happily use ld. Use gcc for everything. Apr 21 02:53:53 * Fix threading issues by enabling threading in both perl-native and **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 21 02:59:57 2007