**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 24 02:59:56 2007 Apr 24 06:09:11 hey, my bitbake my-image seems to be on forever, and neither strace nor gdb seems to show anything valuable. Apr 24 06:09:37 i did run it with -vvv but i dont get too much info, it is executing a shell script which builds the root image Apr 24 06:11:10 ofcourse lsof * on the images directory shows nothing Apr 24 07:37:13 has anyone created a bb to compile e-wm in frame buffer mode? Apr 24 08:43:24 hey, how do i compile enlightenment in framebuffer mode? Apr 24 08:49:15 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r67a5fc71... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Apr 24 08:49:15 perl 5.8.8: Extract out the common settings from the 32/64 bit configs to a Apr 24 08:49:15 common file to make it easier to edit the common settings. A few settings Apr 24 08:49:15 were changed to help make the configurations closer. Apr 24 08:56:47 hello all Apr 24 09:38:11 morning Apr 24 10:14:30 ~lart autotools_stage_all a bit Apr 24 10:14:30 * ibot pries autotools_stage_all a bit's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to autotools_stage_all a bit Apr 24 10:47:34 hi mickeyl Apr 24 10:47:41 hey hrw Apr 24 10:47:46 mickeyl: going to guadec? Apr 24 10:48:01 for sure :) Apr 24 10:48:12 did you decide yet? Apr 24 10:48:14 would be fun Apr 24 10:48:22 hi all Apr 24 10:48:25 mickeyl: not decided yet Apr 24 10:48:40 mickeyl: Would be hard to talk if you don't go. :) Apr 24 10:48:50 mickeyl: have family wedding right before guadec Apr 24 10:49:03 stefan_schmidt: heh, i dunno whether my proposal has been accepted Apr 24 10:49:10 hrw: come afterwards :) Apr 24 10:49:33 mickeyl: Take a look at the guadec site. Ross released a schedule yesterday Apr 24 10:49:34 stefan_schmidt: can we have a conference call tomorrow w/ alphaone? Apr 24 10:49:54 mickeyl: thats the option - but tickets will be combined then Apr 24 10:50:13 Katowice->guadec->PoznaƄ Apr 24 10:50:26 mickeyl: yeah, alphaone will be in FL, but should not be a problem. What time= Apr 24 10:50:34 s/=/?/ Apr 24 10:50:37 FL ? Apr 24 10:50:40 mickeyl: Sure Apr 24 10:50:47 Flensburg Apr 24 10:50:57 ah Apr 24 10:51:30 I'm available the whole day. What time would work for you best? Apr 24 10:51:40 hrw: sounds good to me ;) Apr 24 10:51:41 Gotta please the misses :-) Apr 24 10:51:46 hehe Apr 24 10:51:51 11? Apr 24 10:52:06 fine with me Apr 24 10:52:13 ok Apr 24 10:52:15 * mickeyl notes Apr 24 10:52:28 do you have some infrastructure for conference calls or should i go w/ ISDN? Apr 24 10:52:39 * mickeyl spots his OpenMoko talk on the schedule Apr 24 10:52:41 10.30 ??? Apr 24 10:52:46 *sigh* Apr 24 10:52:48 ;) Apr 24 10:53:02 mickeyl: Directly after keynote, before Nokia. :) Apr 24 10:53:39 mickeyl: I fear I don't have the infrastructure ready and alphaone has only his mobile with him. Apr 24 10:53:53 mickeyl: Would be good to use your ISDN. Apr 24 10:54:13 ok, let's go for it then. didn't do that for ages, but let's see :) Apr 24 10:54:58 mickeyl: Conference calls are disabled in BASE.. Apr 24 10:55:20 initiating them I mean Apr 24 10:55:24 yep Apr 24 10:55:50 hmm loads of interesting talks on guadec Apr 24 10:55:57 yeah Apr 24 10:56:08 ~lart three parallel tracks Apr 24 10:56:08 * ibot beats three parallel tracks senseless with a 50lb Unix manual Apr 24 10:56:19 ~lart uni for giving me a date at 20.06 Apr 24 10:56:19 * ibot pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps uni for giving me a date at 20.06 Apr 24 10:56:34 Not sure if I like to spend the money for only 2-3 days Apr 24 10:56:56 how bad is Dusseldorf airport? Apr 24 10:57:20 not bad Apr 24 10:58:30 better then FRA as stop? Apr 24 10:58:44 I heard that it is easy to get lost on FRA airport ;D Apr 24 10:58:50 hehe Apr 24 10:59:00 ya, DUS is definitely smaller than FRA Apr 24 10:59:33 i worked three years at FRA airport so i don't get lost any longer ;) Apr 24 10:59:40 mickeyl: The question is if there is a bigger airport in .de. Berlin? Apr 24 11:00:04 i guess it's on par Apr 24 11:00:38 stefan_schmidt: the new berlin airport will be as big as FRA Apr 24 11:00:47 stefan_schmidt: but it takes until 2010 to be completed :) Apr 24 11:01:03 zecke: So in the end it will be 2015. :) Apr 24 11:02:45 hmm Apr 24 11:02:59 mickeyl: which day you go for guadec? I am asking because I have to go via FRA/DUS/MUN so... Apr 24 11:03:25 hrw: either sunday or monday Apr 24 11:03:37 hrw: if you go via FRA, let's join Apr 24 11:04:05 mickeyl: monday for me. sunday I will restore myself after wedding party Apr 24 11:04:16 hrw: hehe. sounds good to me, then lets go for monday Apr 24 11:04:17 hmm... am i allowed to criticize Gtk on guadec or will I get stoned for that? Apr 24 11:04:33 or tarred and feathered Apr 24 11:05:31 criticize and run... Apr 24 11:06:26 Just don't tell them that you switch to qt. *evil grin* Apr 24 11:06:48 you == OpenMoko Apr 24 11:06:53 heh Apr 24 11:07:01 you were not allowed to disclose that Apr 24 11:07:03 nasty boy Apr 24 11:07:10 Guys, April 1st is long over :-) Apr 24 11:07:14 :D Apr 24 11:07:17 not fltk or other crap? Apr 24 11:07:23 mickeyl: damn, and you have my NDA. Apr 24 11:07:28 hehe Apr 24 11:07:36 we're heading to MTK Apr 24 11:07:40 Mickey's Tool Kit Apr 24 11:07:46 * stefan_schmidt searches a counztry where he can't get sued by OpenMoko Apr 24 11:08:06 yay, yet another toolkit Apr 24 11:08:17 stefan_schmidt: yatk? Apr 24 11:08:22 :-) Apr 24 11:08:28 please, no Apr 24 11:09:27 * mickeyl makes an appointment with the doctor Apr 24 11:14:11 i'm afraid i have a new inguinal hernia Apr 24 11:14:16 now that would be timing *sigh* Apr 24 11:17:01 morning Apr 24 11:21:11 one good thing in going to conferences - costs Apr 24 11:21:57 I am calculating taxes for first quarter and fosdem gave me some cash back Apr 24 11:22:08 good thing Apr 24 11:23:26 re Apr 24 11:28:01 ~lart telepathy-gabble for running crossbinaries Apr 24 11:28:01 * ibot executes killall -HUP telepathy-gabble for running crossbinaries Apr 24 11:31:21 it this simple to fix ? http://paste-it.net/1987 Apr 24 11:32:40 keesj I think yes Apr 24 11:37:14 keesj try first to build a kernel or kernel-headers Apr 24 11:37:31 maybee uclibc.bb needs only a dependency on this Apr 24 11:39:04 linux-libc-headers Apr 24 11:40:38 hrw aeh yes thats wahta I meant Apr 24 11:42:32 thanks Apr 24 11:43:13 I am trying to use uclib Apr 24 11:43:21 we know Apr 24 11:43:52 linux-libc-headers are needed for all linux libc implementations Apr 24 11:44:38 You are all very kind. Apr 24 11:45:44 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf0a58ace... 10/ (1 packages/telepathy/telepathy-glib_0.5.10.bb): telepathy-glib: added 0.5.10 (from Poky) Apr 24 11:45:48 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r09bb66d3... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): telepathy-gabble: updated to 0.5.10 (from Poky) Apr 24 12:27:50 gm Apr 24 13:24:21 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rfc9198bb... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Apr 24 13:24:21 perl 5.8.8: Re-arrange the installation directories to match the debian Apr 24 13:24:21 style FHS compliant layout rather then OE specific layout that was being Apr 24 13:24:21 used previously. Note that cpan perl modules build under OE won't work with Apr 24 13:24:21 this because they expect the 5.8.7 type layout (this will be fixed later.) Apr 24 13:32:13 Crofton|home: good morning Apr 24 13:34:54 nope still does not work http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/uclibc-0.9.28-r9/ here are some logs Apr 24 13:35:02 gm Apr 24 13:53:58 keesj: It's look for the version of kernel headers. I suspect it's look in linux/version.h under /home/kejo/oe/tmp/cross/armeb-linux-uclibc for you. Apr 24 13:54:30 keesj: It probably wants UTS_RELEASE which has been moved in recent kernels to linux/utsrelease.h Apr 24 13:55:22 keesj: My uclibc builds use linux-libc-headers 2.6.15.99 which still has UTS_RELEASE in the old header file. Apr 24 14:00:54 keesj: did you do uclibc build earlier for the wrt54 / ixp4xx? Apr 24 14:03:12 no Apr 24 14:06:09 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * re53757cb... 10/ (1 packages/perl/perl_5.8.8.bb): Apr 24 14:06:09 perl 5.8.8: Replace host paths from the configuration file that is to be Apr 24 14:06:09 installed on the target with those that are suitable for the target. This Apr 24 14:06:09 has no effect on actually using perl but would have an effect on trying to Apr 24 14:06:09 build perl modules on the target. Apr 24 14:20:56 v8jlene I don't have a utsrelease.h Apr 24 14:25:08 keesj: I just check the uclibc code, and the error is because of this failing: ver=`grep UTS_RELEASE $KERNEL_SOURCE/include/linux/version.h | cut -d '"' -f 2` Apr 24 14:25:59 So I guess you need to either use an older linux-libc-headers or figure out where UTS_RELEASE is with the newer headers (assuming it even exists) and tell uclibc about it.. Apr 24 14:35:57 v8jlene: I have a patch for that Apr 24 14:36:15 the utsrelease thingy Apr 24 14:36:17 :) Apr 24 14:39:04 NAiL: I still use 2.6.15 headers so hadn't notice it myself ;) I have other issues... but I need to actually test is. All previous uclibc releases have had problems with loading shared libraries on my sh4 boards. Apr 24 14:39:17 "test it" even Apr 24 14:39:28 Although I can't find it right now... The patch basically adds UTS_RELEASE to version.h when building the headers Apr 24 14:40:32 I found this in the Makefile http://paste-it.net/1989 Apr 24 14:41:05 in work/linux-libc-headers-2.6.20-r6/linux-2.6.20 Apr 24 14:41:23 perhaps it's better for me to start with an other version :) Apr 24 14:42:14 Yeah, that'd be the easiest way out. If I ran into the problem I would have just manually created the header to get past any issues. Apr 24 14:45:01 Fixed SRCDATE and gconf-dbus still won't build Apr 24 14:45:04 http://pastebin.ca/455876 Apr 24 14:45:29 keesj: I don't have the new headers around to check, but as I said I have a build here using 2.6.15.99 which worked. I got to go now.. way too late to be here. Apr 24 14:45:41 thank! Apr 24 15:09:08 When I moved systems, I lost my OE vi colorizer - anybody have a link to a copy? Apr 24 15:10:33 CosmicPenguin: contrib/vim in bitbake Apr 24 15:10:42 heh Apr 24 15:10:46 in bitbake.. :) Apr 24 15:10:50 I was looking in OE Apr 24 15:10:51 duh Apr 24 15:40:27 cu Apr 24 16:25:39 hi all Apr 24 16:26:40 hvontres|poodle: Does poodle use drivers/input/keyboard/locomokbd.c? Apr 24 16:27:36 re Apr 24 16:27:39 thesing: yes Apr 24 16:27:59 thesing: I think so. RP would know more about that. He did the 2.6 port for poodle. I just pestered him enough to get sound working Apr 24 16:27:59 or hm. poodle is pxa.. Apr 24 16:28:15 hrw: but still has a locomo.... Apr 24 16:28:54 hvontres|poodle: look in /sys/class/input/ Apr 24 16:30:23 thesing , hrw: root@poodle:/# cat /sys/class/input/input0/name Apr 24 16:30:23 LoCoMo keyboard Apr 24 16:30:50 I implemented the suspend function of the "cancel" key. http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tkunze/zaurus/patches/locomokeyb_suspendkey-r0.patch Could you test, if this works with poodle? Apr 24 16:31:53 thesing: I might be able to tonight. I am at work right now and my build machine is at home, turned off...:( Apr 24 16:32:28 hrw: could you update the bb file in OE to use the newer verstions of the mmc patches? (mmc_spi-r4.patch, locomo_spi-r3.patch) Apr 24 16:32:28 thesing: IIRC, RP has a poodle as well, but I think he's kinda swamped too Apr 24 16:32:59 I am trying to build angstrom for omap5912osk, and it fails building gconf-dbus Apr 24 16:33:28 looks like gconf-dbs svn is currently not buildbable and there is no other bb file Apr 24 16:33:38 except for a cvs one .. Apr 24 16:35:49 thesing: can - after food Apr 24 16:35:56 * hrw goes to food Apr 24 16:37:46 hrw: thanks Apr 24 16:45:47 hi all Apr 24 16:46:02 ~seen RP Apr 24 16:46:43 rp is currently on #oe (2d 19h 11m 49s) #openmoko (2d 19h 11m 49s) #openzaurus (2d 19h 11m 49s) #handhelds.org (2d 19h 11m 49s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 2d 2h 55m 51s, last said: 'In the past I've only been there for the core...'. Apr 24 16:47:48 which one know about the pxa framebuffer? Apr 24 16:47:51 thesing: did you try your patch in opie or gpe? I wonder if the keymap needs to get fixed at all for this to work right. Apr 24 16:48:23 cedricb: what do you want to know? Apr 24 16:49:22 hvontres|poodle: neither gpe-image nor opie-image build for me. I tested this on bootstrap-image. Apr 24 16:50:19 hvontres|poodle: I've got a console based image (angstrom) and the framebuffer look like is setup to 320x240 by default Apr 24 16:51:07 hvontres|poodle: I didn't change the keymap. But any app that has the focus will receive a stream of ESC on suspend. Apr 24 16:51:26 hvontres|poodle: but the orientation is set to portrait so I'm a bit lost... Apr 24 16:52:15 hvontres|poodle: can't rotate it via /sys/class/graphics/fb0/rotate --> doesn't do anything Apr 24 16:52:17 hvontres|poodle: I didn't think about this before. I will change this. Apr 24 16:53:19 cedricb: hmmm, no clue... Apr 24 16:53:22 how's done the OE splash screen? Apr 24 16:54:02 the plash is displayed correctly Apr 24 16:55:11 but when I'm drawing something the screen (with SDL) is in portrait but in 320x240 (I hope you get it...) Apr 24 16:55:31 cedricb: so sdl is wrong Apr 24 16:55:43 cedricb: what device you use? Apr 24 16:56:04 I don't know, the SDL lib detect the screen at 320x240 Apr 24 16:56:10 poodle Apr 24 16:56:31 so it draw off screen Apr 24 16:56:47 like if I was in 240x320 Apr 24 16:57:02 cedricb: console app or started in opie/gpe? Apr 24 16:57:14 console app with fbcon Apr 24 16:57:28 then it looks like bug in sdl Apr 24 16:58:10 thesing: kernel change pushed to ewi - will be synced into main monotone Apr 24 16:58:32 hrw: ok but how do I tell the pxafb to draw in 240x320 instead of 320x240?? Apr 24 16:59:02 cedricb: non-sdl apps works ok? Apr 24 16:59:07 cedricb: are you running a 2.6.20 kernel? Apr 24 16:59:18 cedricb: OE sdl is built without fbcon support maybe? Apr 24 17:00:52 anyway - it is time for me to get out of computer and do better things Apr 24 17:00:56 hi greentux Apr 24 17:00:59 cu all Apr 24 17:01:04 cu Apr 24 17:01:56 cedricb: have you seen any screen corruption after resuming from suspend? Apr 24 17:02:02 !oebug 2120 Apr 24 17:02:03 * * Bug 2120, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-17 10:06 Apr 24 17:02:04 * * hvontres(AT)gmail.com: Display Corruption in 2.6.20 Kernel on poodle after resume Apr 24 17:02:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120 Apr 24 17:02:33 hrw|gone: better things... mmmh Apr 24 17:09:51 devel-xorg-image-geodelx-devel-1.0-r1.elf Apr 24 17:09:51 devel-xorg-image-geodelx-devel-1.0-r1.img Apr 24 17:09:51 devel-xorg-image-geodelx-devel-1.0-r1.iso Apr 24 17:09:51 devel-xorg-image-geodelx-devel-1.0-r1.nb Apr 24 17:09:51 devel-xorg-image-geodelx-devel-1.0-r1.rootfs.ext2 Apr 24 17:10:04 No matter what your boot method is - bring it on, I'm ready.. :) Apr 24 17:11:05 hehe Apr 24 17:11:18 03Thomas 07org.oe.dev * r0846e511... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.20.bb): linux-rp: update Collie SD/MMC driver Apr 24 17:17:40 hrw: don't know about non-sdl app in console mode... Apr 24 17:18:17 hvontres|poodle: yep 2.6.20 (angstrom 04/07) Apr 24 17:19:00 hvontres|poodle: no corruption after resuming... Apr 24 17:19:53 hrw: I've build my own sdl fbcon Apr 24 17:20:20 and it can draw stuff on the screen but not correctly... Apr 24 17:20:34 cedricb: hmm, I guess I'll need to rebuild my kernel and try again then...:) Apr 24 17:24:27 argh.....gconf-dbus fails to configure Apr 24 17:25:29 hrw: which app can I use to test the graphic in console mode? Apr 24 17:27:28 zecke: did u done the sdl bb file? Apr 24 17:28:18 not that i remember Apr 24 17:28:18 hvontres|poodle: have u got a pxa 255 or 250? Apr 24 17:28:31 cedricb: pca 250 :( Apr 24 17:28:40 hvontres|poodle: same here Apr 24 17:31:03 JustinP, I have smae problem Apr 24 17:31:24 seems like we need to find a working SRCDATE and make a bb file based on that date? Apr 24 17:32:36 * koen|gprs hints at sane-srcdates.inc Apr 24 17:32:43 who's the guru with libtoolsize? Apr 24 17:32:51 koen|away, where is that? Apr 24 17:33:03 conf/distro/include Apr 24 17:33:18 ok Apr 24 17:33:45 any gconf-dbus experts around with a suggested date? Apr 24 17:34:36 hrw|gone: r09bb66d3fb1db889848916179b819a78e4efde02 broke telepathy gabble, read the .bb about gabble.manager to see why Apr 24 17:35:02 koen|gprs, there is a date for gconf-dbus 0f 20070412 Apr 24 17:35:11 right Apr 24 17:35:20 so it already has a working SRCDATE Apr 24 17:36:09 so, why does it try to build todays then? Apr 24 17:36:42 !oebug 2133 Apr 24 17:36:43 * * Bug 2133, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-23 01:53 Apr 24 17:36:44 * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: bitbake 1.8 r816 breaks SRC_DATE Apr 24 17:36:45 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133 Apr 24 17:36:53 that's why Apr 24 17:37:30 koen|away, speaking to you reminds me why people want to punch me sometimes :) Apr 24 17:37:48 later all Apr 24 17:38:16 I am add ign a link to that bug from JustinP's bug Apr 24 17:40:17 I also went ahead and accepted the bug Apr 24 18:01:04 I'm getting some errors with missing dependencies that I tracked down to a bug in base.bbclass: http://www.pasteserver.net/988 Apr 24 18:05:15 apaulsen: did you open a bug report? Apr 24 18:07:25 greetings, can anyone point me to documentation on how timezones are handled in OE? Apr 24 18:08:03 For example, I compiled the 'timezones' package, made a symbolic link to my zone under /usr/share/... to /etc/localtime, but date doesn't reflect the change Apr 24 18:12:22 evening all Apr 24 18:15:28 do I need more than just the 'timezones' package? Apr 24 18:29:20 howdy folks Apr 24 18:33:31 xuumbi: I think timezones has been replaced by tzdata Apr 24 18:35:13 xuumbi: root@poodle:~# ll /etc/localtime Apr 24 18:35:13 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Mar 13 18:56 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles Apr 24 18:35:16 root@poodle:~# date Apr 24 18:35:18 Tue Apr 24 11:34:40 PDT 2007 Apr 24 18:56:47 hvontres|poodle: sorry just got back, I don't see a tzdata package under my packages directory, should I? Apr 24 18:58:30 Good evening Apr 24 18:58:34 Hi Apr 24 18:58:55 hvontres|poodle: maybe my tree is too old... Apr 24 18:59:24 xuumbi: I think you need to build it. I'm not sure if it is the official replacement yet. But tzdata is based on the latest zoneinfo sources, so it has the new us-dst fixes etc. Apr 24 18:59:56 hvontres|poodle: ah, yes the new US dst info is definitely important to me Apr 24 19:04:28 Trying to build a gpe-image for angtrom, bitbake says that preferred version 0.5.2+svn20070424 of osb-nrcit not available. Apr 24 19:05:24 But there's a osb-nrcit_svn.bb with PV = "0.5.2+svn${SRCDATE}" Apr 24 19:05:42 What could be happening? Apr 24 19:06:09 Could be the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" in the osb-nrcit_svn.bb the problem? Apr 24 19:07:54 !oebug 2133 Apr 24 19:07:55 * * Bug 2133, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-23 01:53 Apr 24 19:07:56 * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: bitbake 1.8 r816 breaks SRC_DATE Apr 24 19:07:57 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133 Apr 24 19:08:19 hvontres|poodle: Thanks, that seems to be the reason, so. Apr 24 19:08:34 sirfred: np :) Apr 24 19:08:38 Also, I've catched bitbake trying to compile totem for gpe-image, don't know the dependency tree it followed to get that. Apr 24 19:09:59 Humm, I see that I'm at revision 812 Apr 24 19:10:12 hello all Apr 24 19:10:18 mreimer_: Hello Apr 24 19:10:30 hi sirfred Apr 24 19:10:35 Hi mreimer_ Apr 24 19:11:05 No, I'm at 816 Apr 24 19:11:19 using angstrom: does anyone know how to hide the cursor? Apr 24 19:11:39 mreimer_: I think you need something like xcursor-transparent-theme or something so Apr 24 19:12:00 sirfred: that's not just an alpha-blended cursor theme? Apr 24 19:12:29 mreimer_: If you mean that the cursors are transparent... yes. Apr 24 19:12:58 I'd like the cursor to disappear entirely, like in earlier versions of GPE Apr 24 19:13:05 it's not useful when using a stylus Apr 24 19:13:22 I suppose I should be asking on #gpe Apr 24 19:16:05 mreimer_: It seems that matchbox have an option. Apr 24 19:16:29 mreimer_: But they warn about it to be deprecated in the future, and recomends using a cursor theme to achieve it. Apr 24 19:16:42 mreimer_: http://matchbox-project.org/documentation/manual/wm.html Apr 24 19:17:48 thanks sirfred Apr 24 19:17:59 What is the recommended workaround for Bug 2133, perhaps downgrading bitbake? Is it safe? Apr 24 19:18:01 mreimer_: np Apr 24 19:19:01 sirfred: btw I'm finally running angstrom, now with xserver-kdrive-w100 - X11R7.1-1.1.0-r8, so I can test Xw100 when I have time Apr 24 19:19:20 mreimer_: You mean Ximageon? ;-) Apr 24 19:19:32 sirfred: oh, is that what it's called now? Apr 24 19:19:49 * mreimer_ is falling behind Apr 24 19:20:14 mreimer_: Well, there are two servers. Xw100 is mainly Alberto Mardegan work. Apr 24 19:21:00 I see Apr 24 19:21:00 mreimer_: Later, I wanted to add some features to that work, but I had to change some bits in kdrive internals, that's when Ximageon was born. Apr 24 19:22:03 mreimer_: Xw100: Bitblitting, rectangles are hw accelerated. It also uses the offscreen memory when not in rotated mode. Apr 24 19:22:27 * mreimer_ build xserver-kdrive-imageon Apr 24 19:22:36 mreimer_: As it relies in the framebuffer level to perform the rotation by software, it cannot use offscreen memory in rotated modes. Apr 24 19:22:36 sirfred: great Apr 24 19:22:48 mreimer_: Ximageon: Bitblitting, rectangles, overlay, hardware cursors Apr 24 19:23:06 sirfred: I suppose scaling and overlays probably don't work yet on w3220? Apr 24 19:23:25 mreimer_: Rotated modes also use acceleration, both memory zones of the Imageon (internal and external) are supported. Apr 24 19:23:46 mreimer_: That's the bad news: Ximageon does not support any other chip than w100 Apr 24 19:23:47 sirfred: very nice Apr 24 19:24:02 sirfred: good to know Apr 24 19:24:08 sirfred: would it take much? Apr 24 19:24:25 mreimer_: I don't have plans to do so. THe thing is that I had a hx4700 for a week. Apr 24 19:24:33 sirfred: great! Apr 24 19:24:54 sirfred: maybe someone can also send you a big box full of Extra Time(TM) Apr 24 19:25:07 mreimer_: Excuse me. What I wanted to mean is that I have no plans to do the work. :-( Apr 24 19:25:32 sirfred: oh well. it's still a nice device to use Apr 24 19:25:38 mreimer_: THere are a lot of "small" problems. The first one is that kernel framebuffer rotation doesn't work fine on the hx4700 Apr 24 19:26:02 sirfred: I'm not surprised Apr 24 19:26:15 mreimer_: Also, the hardware cursor is not 16x16 like the w100 Apr 24 19:26:37 mreimer_: And also, ENG_CNTL differences avoids overlays to work. Apr 24 19:26:54 mreimer_: Too much work for a device I don't have. :-) Apr 24 19:27:25 sirfred: sure would be nice if ATI/AMD would release the docs Apr 24 19:27:29 mreimer_: I rather prefer to spend my (little) free time playing with my c760 Apr 24 19:27:33 mreimer_: Well, that would be nice. Apr 24 19:27:40 mreimer_: Have you asked? Apr 24 19:28:08 sirfred: no, I haven't. Does anyone have a contact there? Apr 24 19:28:14 argh....bitbake! Apr 24 19:28:15 doesn't Jordan Krouse work there? Apr 24 19:28:29 mreimer_: I haven't, and asked some times , years ago, for mach64 specs, and also imageon ones. Apr 24 19:28:35 None or negative response. Apr 24 19:29:07 mreimer_: Even for the mach64 , I asked for the specs when the chip was, how many? 6 years old? Apr 24 19:29:21 yeah, silly Apr 24 19:29:39 mreimer_: But perhaps they have changed their mind, who knows. Apr 24 19:29:52 Well, I have to leave now. Apr 24 19:29:53 it's worth a try Apr 24 19:29:59 bye sirfred Apr 24 19:43:02 CosmicPenguin: any chance you could get sirfred in touch with someone who has the "secret" docs for imageons? Apr 24 19:44:06 imageons? Apr 24 19:44:25 ati w100 and w3220 Apr 24 19:44:34 pretty please? Apr 24 19:44:53 ATI is still for the most part their own entity Apr 24 19:45:03 with sugar on top? Apr 24 19:45:47 The only difference between you guys and me, is that I actually have a phone number I can call to hear somebody to tell me to go away Apr 24 19:45:56 heh Apr 24 19:48:31 gremlin[it]: hi, are you the one doing the h3600 kernel 2.6 port? Apr 24 19:49:42 thesing, yes i'm :) Apr 24 19:50:31 gremlin[it]: I'm doing the same thing on collie. Apr 24 19:51:04 heh, the kdrive thread on LAK is funny Apr 24 19:51:31 ohh good Apr 24 19:51:49 gremlin[it]: I have problems with the pcmcia driver: Kernels which include it don't wake up from suspend. Apr 24 19:52:06 do you have the same problem or does it work fine? Apr 24 19:52:09 thesing: the simpad people (mrnice, mrdata) had the same problem Apr 24 19:52:42 is there an alternative to ntp in openembedded? Apr 24 19:52:56 I'd like to use rdate, but I don't see that the tree Apr 24 19:53:15 thesing, i did some test with CF only ... Apr 24 19:53:42 and i really don't remember if i try suspend/resume ... Apr 24 19:53:56 thesing, did u have USB woking on collie ? Apr 24 19:55:04 no. Apr 24 19:55:48 gremlin[it]: are you still working on 2.6 port? : Apr 24 19:57:26 univac, sorry no ... all is in pause :( Apr 24 19:57:49 koen|gprs: so its a sa1100 problem. that helps a lot. thanks. Apr 24 19:58:05 ;[ Apr 24 19:58:41 what the things to do left? usb, sound...? Apr 24 19:58:57 univac, mainly usb ... Apr 24 19:59:04 only? Apr 24 20:01:08 hh-26-gremlin-20061217.patch - this is last? Apr 24 20:01:33 yes ... yes i think yes ... Apr 24 20:02:45 ade|desk: (rotfl) Apr 24 20:02:47 ups Apr 24 20:02:51 sorry ;) Apr 24 20:07:59 univac: ok so you got, me i'm not at my desk, i'm in a random hotel in berlin Apr 24 20:08:26 ;) Apr 24 20:12:01 the debian on zaurus guys are funny: "download debian, download kdrive from angstrom...." Apr 24 20:13:09 03thommy 07org.oe.dev * ra17faaae... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: fix depency problem, closes #2137 (and some others) Apr 24 20:16:14 koen|away, Who understands the SRCDATE not handled properly be bitbake problem? Apr 24 20:16:29 Crofton: RP, zecke, maybe hrw Apr 24 20:19:24 <_law_> NOTE: gconf-dbus-2.16.0+svn20070424-svn://developer.imendio.com/svn/gconf-dbus has no section, not checking URI Apr 24 20:19:29 <_law_> any ideas? Apr 24 20:19:35 yes Apr 24 20:19:39 see the OE mailinglist Apr 24 20:26:04 <_law_> koen|gprs: but why it tries always to build versions svn20070424 not 20070412 ? Apr 24 20:26:27 !oebug 2133 Apr 24 20:26:28 * * Bug 2133, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-23 01:53 Apr 24 20:26:29 * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: bitbake 1.8 r816 breaks SRC_DATE Apr 24 20:26:30 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133 Apr 24 20:27:19 hey koen Apr 24 20:27:30 hey mreimer_ Apr 24 20:27:48 <_law_> koen|gprs: aha ok so i have do wait for a bitbake update... Apr 24 20:27:56 or fix the bug Apr 24 20:28:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7e5b2dc5... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Apr 24 20:28:21 telepathy-gabble: add newly generated gabble.manager for 0.5.10 Apr 24 20:28:21 NOTE: please do not check in new telepathy-gabble versions without generating a gabble.manager... Apr 24 20:28:29 or you could use bitbake 1.6 meanwhile. Apr 24 20:28:54 OE will require 1.8 in ~3 weeks, so it's better to fix the bug Apr 24 20:29:40 do we know when the bug crept in? Apr 24 20:29:59 * koen|gprs praises v8jlene, our fearless perl hacker Apr 24 21:06:30 koen|away: looks like I forgot to copy that file from Zaurus or Poky. thx for fixing Apr 24 21:06:32 cu Apr 24 22:06:07 CoreDump|home: mornin :) Apr 24 22:06:38 heya Apr 24 22:06:56 hvontres|poodle: I kinda forgot your mail sorry =) Apr 24 22:07:01 re Apr 24 22:07:18 hi flatronf701C Apr 24 22:07:21 hi florian Apr 24 22:07:22 CoreDump|home: np. I think I may have found a bug already, just haven't had a chance to nail it down Apr 24 22:07:31 http://www.abum.com/8681/All-Daddy-Wanted.html =D Apr 24 22:09:51 CoreDump|home: it seems like I get an extra keypress stored when I start up altboot... Apr 24 22:10:22 hvontres|poodle: ah heh. Nice bug Apr 24 22:10:53 CoreDump|home: but if I let it run by itself, it autoboots to the last good zImage :) Apr 24 22:10:57 IIRC there is a comment in there describing this problem and my solution (which is very ugly) Apr 24 22:11:35 CoreDump|home: yeah, I might take another look at it tomorrow on the way home.. Apr 24 22:11:51 * hvontres|poodle has an hour to kill on the train every day... Apr 24 22:15:04 f Apr 24 22:15:10 unny amaricans.... Apr 24 22:15:28 * CoreDump|home watches an american talkshow Apr 24 22:15:49 "beep" blahbla *beep* blah *beep*...*beeep* blah blah Apr 24 22:21:00 CoreDump|home: ahhhh, don't watch that crap... next thing you know you'll be watching "Reality" TV...:) Apr 24 22:21:21 no danger there,really =) Apr 24 22:22:11 * hvontres|poodle is waiting for "Survivor Antaritica".... now there would be a challlenge... Apr 24 22:22:31 hehe Apr 24 22:22:53 the last time I turned on my TV @home was during the soccer WM Apr 24 22:28:13 CoreDump|home: BTW, how badly did I hack up altboot? Apr 24 22:30:21 hvontres|poodle: looks good Apr 24 22:35:53 CoreDump|home: heh..shell scripts are still REALLY alien to me... I do so prefer python for scripting..:) Apr 24 22:37:09 to each his own of course =) Apr 24 22:37:27 I've created a 1.0.x branch for you in SVN Apr 24 22:37:49 please send an SSH pub key to oe (at) hentges (dot) net Apr 24 22:38:31 CoreDump|home: Dumb question, how do I generate said key?? Apr 24 22:38:44 ssh-keygen Apr 24 22:39:20 CoreDump|home: ok. I'll have to do that when I get home tonight :) Apr 24 22:39:31 ;) no hurry Apr 24 22:50:29 I will get some sleep. CU Apr 24 23:16:18 is there any way to get the cross compile TARGET_ARCH when inheriting NATIVE? Apr 24 23:16:23 s/NATIVE/native/ Apr 24 23:24:52 hmm, is the guy that posted the comment on bug 2136 about? Apr 24 23:28:55 !oebug 2136 Apr 24 23:28:56 * * Bug 2136, Status: ASSIGNED, Created: 2007-04-24 10:20 Apr 24 23:28:57 * * papercrane(AT)reversefold.com: gconf-dbus fails to configure with syntax error Apr 24 23:28:58 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2136 Apr 24 23:47:37 someone mentioned adding a dependinency that supplied an autoconf macro Apr 24 23:47:49 I am wondering if is was commited Apr 25 00:02:53 why do I make gnome-common for bootstrap-image in Angstrom? Apr 25 00:05:36 why are most of the smart guys in bed now :) Apr 25 00:08:20 Crofton: how can you be two places at once???? Apr 25 00:08:36 hvontres|poodle: laptop + wifi Apr 25 00:17:13 multiple computers Apr 25 00:18:54 I just walked to another room Apr 25 00:18:58 :) Apr 25 00:19:12 I ran bitbake on the other machine Apr 25 00:19:28 checking the fix for the gconf-dbus_svn.bb issue Apr 25 01:19:02 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r7121f8eb... 10/ (1 classes/cpan.bbclass): Apr 25 01:19:02 cpan.bbclass: Update to enable the building cpan modules for perl 5.8.8. Apr 25 01:19:02 This uses the installed perl configuration to determine if we are building Apr 25 01:19:02 for the old or the new perl layout. Currently this just changes the Apr 25 01:19:02 installation paths and always uses gcc to link, but more changes will be Apr 25 01:19:02 added later to make the perl module building process a lot more reliable. Apr 25 01:19:07 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rbb1689f7... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Apr 25 01:19:08 perl 5.8.8: Move comments on how to create the dependency list into the Apr 25 01:19:10 dependency file itself to make the main recipe a bit more readable. Also Apr 25 01:19:13 move the two dependencies that were manually added to the the dependenecy Apr 25 01:19:14 list file and fix use RDEPENDS instead of DEPENDS. Apr 25 02:04:19 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r32161ed8... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gconf-dbus_svn.bb): Apr 25 02:04:19 gconf-dbus_svn.bb : Add dependency on intltool-native so configure script runs Apr 25 02:04:19 properly. This should fix bug 2136. Apr 25 02:47:25 CoreDump|home: ssh key sent **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 25 02:59:56 2007