**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 10 02:59:56 2007 May 10 06:34:20 good morning May 10 06:45:43 Bernardo: morning :) May 10 06:46:28 * hvontres|home feels REALLY stupid for chasing a problem for two weeks and figuring out it was some old cruft in his local.conf :( May 10 06:51:33 :( May 10 06:54:53 I'm trying to build angstrom-image for my akita, but right now it fails in xserver-kdrive May 10 06:55:12 at least opie-image and opie-kdepim-image now build May 10 06:55:15 Bernardo: at least I finally figured it out :) I guess having KERNEL_VERSION set in your local.conf is a bad idea May 10 06:55:19 as does most opie stuff May 10 06:55:35 Bernardo: well, that's good to hear :) May 10 06:57:03 I'm now stuck on klimt (won't build even 0.6.2) and qpegps, which needs to link with qte-mt instead of qte, and when I fix that fails because it links with libgpsd which is linked with X11 libs. May 10 06:57:12 I have some work for the weekend May 10 06:57:13 :) May 10 06:58:11 at least documenting properly where I am stuck May 10 07:01:04 Bernardo: heh...I am still trying to sort out a major display bug on poodle... May 10 07:06:12 bbl May 10 07:06:16 Woooot... the module deps finaly built correctly for 2.6.20 :) May 10 07:06:25 good May 10 07:08:14 Bernardo|away: the wierd thing was that 2.6.17 worked with a borked local.conf... May 10 07:16:47 morning May 10 07:16:49 hi mickeyl May 10 07:17:48 hey May 10 07:18:31 mickeyl: how goes moving? May 10 07:18:53 exhausting May 10 07:18:56 but progressing May 10 07:19:16 tomorrow is "sleeping room day" May 10 07:19:17 no May 10 07:19:20 today, actually May 10 07:19:48 more done or more left? May 10 07:19:58 definitely more done May 10 07:20:06 after today the only missing bits is the office May 10 07:20:11 with the computers and tables and stuff May 10 07:20:30 found a way to move tables? May 10 07:21:29 yeah, we managed to bring down 120x100 May 10 07:21:33 but that's the border May 10 07:21:46 so i compose the new office of desks that are 120x100 :) May 10 07:21:51 ;) May 10 07:23:53 good that you have space for it May 10 07:24:05 I am using 140x70 and it is small May 10 07:24:17 ya 70 is tough May 10 07:24:53 small flat force some rules May 10 07:24:55 although with the modern LCD monitors one hardly needs more than 80 May 10 07:24:59 hehe May 10 07:25:18 man.. without LCD I would not fit - my 17" crt was taking 60 May 10 07:26:20 mickeyl: can you confirm mail about closing OE malinglists on hh.org? May 10 07:26:35 hrw: already done. thanks for spotting -- i totally forgot about them May 10 07:26:38 thx May 10 07:26:52 I am subscribed there and got mail from user May 10 07:27:04 and ignored it due to lack of time May 10 07:28:48 ah right, OE mailing list is still going to mickey@tm.uni-frankfurt.... May 10 07:28:58 which gets 1000 spam per day May 10 07:29:02 so i no longer read it May 10 07:29:09 s/OE/old OE/ May 10 07:29:19 no spamassasing or other bogofilter? May 10 07:29:40 since i quit it's more or less unmaintained... our uni sysadmin is lame and incapable May 10 07:30:00 ah May 10 07:30:12 ~lart ups May 10 07:30:13 * ibot turns ups into a lifesized tux doll May 10 07:30:27 WARSAW, PL 09.05.2007 19:11 IMPORT SCAN May 10 07:30:51 and 8.05 they called me about package... May 10 07:35:44 hrw: Lets hope the Bundespost is a bit better about things :) May 10 07:37:07 ;D May 10 07:37:44 ~lart me for leaving KERNEL_VERSION in local.conf May 10 07:37:45 * ibot declares hvontres|home a moron for leaving KERNEL_VERSION in local.conf May 10 07:37:52 fits May 10 07:40:32 hi schurig May 10 07:44:20 hrw: hi! May 10 07:44:20 well, time to go to bed. May 10 07:48:58 morning May 10 08:03:42 morning May 10 08:42:19 hi, all! May 10 08:42:23 koen, hi! May 10 08:42:46 koen, do you mind reading mail? May 10 08:43:07 tar: ./git: time stamp 2007-05-10 10:42:13 is 25.693811629 s in the future May 10 08:43:12 funny May 10 08:44:00 hrw, hi! May 10 08:44:42 good morning May 10 08:45:48 slapin: we did not finished discussion in coreteam about your r/w access May 10 08:46:07 hrw, thanks a lot! May 10 09:17:41 hi May 10 10:32:28 ~curse subversion May 10 10:32:42 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, subversion ! May 10 10:34:29 what did it do to you? :) May 10 10:34:39 cd dir; svn log . May 10 10:34:41 and you cant be sure will log work or not. May 10 10:34:54 why not? May 10 10:35:00 or you will get old entries or current entries May 10 10:35:03 ag May 10 10:35:04 ah May 10 10:35:06 yeah May 10 10:35:18 svn log `svn info|som-filter-to-get-url` May 10 10:35:27 ? May 10 10:35:38 if you svn log url, it will work May 10 10:35:55 and svn info output contains url, just needs to be extracted. May 10 10:36:01 but if I do 'svn log' in dir then it show me something old May 10 10:36:26 yes, up to the checked out revision, I believ. May 10 10:36:33 or not recursive. May 10 10:36:41 Just pertaining to directory itself, don't remember. May 10 10:36:53 http://pastebin.ca/480570 May 10 10:36:53 I've been always working around it by doing svn log on repository ur May 10 10:36:53 l May 10 10:37:34 try svn log `svn info |grep ^URL|cut -d: -f2-` May 10 10:40:34 oh, you have polish locale ;-) "Broken pipe" in polish sounds so romantic for russian ear :) May 10 10:43:48 ;) May 10 10:54:26 !oebug 1526 May 10 10:54:28 * * Bug 1526, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-10-25 00:24 May 10 10:54:29 * * openembedded(AT)hrw.one.pl: One updater.sh to rule all PXA Zaurus models May 10 10:54:30 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1526 May 10 11:00:49 monotone with ssh-agent support roxx May 10 11:02:29 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r87a93bfa... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): checksums.ini: remove xfce m4 macros fetched from svnweb May 10 11:02:34 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd0ab939b... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): checksums.ini: remove gaim patches fetched from cvsweb May 10 11:02:56 hrw: why? May 10 11:05:14 patches can be manipulated too :) May 10 11:06:16 it is cvs/svn so they can differ on each fetch May 10 11:06:24 I got that problem with xfce ones May 10 11:08:08 hrw: fetching a specific version is not possible? May 10 11:08:53 did not checked May 10 11:12:44 webkit roughly needs 6 mb to render spiegel.de, firefox more than 16 mb May 10 11:17:57 ~bon appetit May 10 11:18:10 extra, extra, read all about it, bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito Smaklig måltid!. Hyvää ruokahalua. Bo Proveito May 10 11:45:12 ~mirrors May 10 11:45:34 Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp://ftp..debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. A list is available at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official May 10 11:45:53 ~oemirrors May 10 11:47:00 ibot: mirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted May 10 11:47:02 ...but mirrors is already something else... May 10 11:47:12 ibot: mirrors also is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted May 10 11:47:14 psokolovsky: I think you lost me on that one May 10 11:47:26 ibot: mirrors is also OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted May 10 11:47:28 okay, psokolovsky May 10 11:47:33 ~mirrors May 10 11:47:35 Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp://ftp..debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. A list is available at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official. OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, also see ... May 10 11:48:00 I would revert that and add oemirrors May 10 11:48:25 hrw: on #oe, mirrors are oemirrors ;-) May 10 11:48:44 ibot is NOT only on #oe May 10 11:49:05 and it's so stupid to be not-context aware? May 10 11:49:16 ~lart ibot for not being channel-aware May 10 11:49:16 * ibot shoots psokolovsky in the head for not being channel-aware May 10 11:49:26 I am ;-E May 10 11:50:17 stupidity! May 10 11:50:23 hrw: how to revert? ;-) May 10 11:50:39 ibot: help May 10 11:51:05 ibot: no, mirrors is Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp://ftp..debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. A list is available at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official/ May 10 11:51:18 okay, hrw May 10 11:51:22 ~thx May 10 11:51:26 np, or eeeerrruuusssshhhwwwaaaaaAAAAAAAAA!!!!11 May 10 11:51:54 ibot: oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted May 10 11:51:58 psokolovsky: okay May 10 11:52:52 ~lart libtool May 10 11:52:52 * ibot forces libtool to use Outlook Express May 10 12:26:01 Laibsch: ping May 10 12:28:08 Hehe.. Brilliant ~lart May 10 12:44:31 apaulsen: pong May 10 12:45:01 Laibsch: are you looking for Java? May 10 12:45:10 apaulsen: No need to ping. Just write your question. I read the scrollback. May 10 12:45:25 apaulsen: I have an app that I'd like to use on the road. May 10 12:45:35 But it requires Swing (not only Java) May 10 12:46:13 I have also messed with some of the JRE in OE as a bug triage exercise in the past. 'T was unsuccessful. May 10 12:46:36 Laibsch: I have recipies for a current JamVM, cacao svn and classpath cvs. Cacao + new classpath = much much faster May 10 12:47:06 I use it for a Swing app May 10 12:48:05 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r098b7308... 10/ (1 conf/machine/palmtx.conf): May 10 12:48:05 palmtx.conf: Never RDEPENDS for kernel modules. May 10 12:48:05 * Closes #2291 May 10 12:51:08 apaulsen: That is possible? May 10 12:51:39 apaulsen: It would be nice if you put that stuff into the bug tracker and I will seek to commit them May 10 12:52:01 Laibsch: it works very well for me at least. The startup time is miserable and cacao has a big memory footprint (~30MB I think!), but I have room for it on my platform May 10 12:52:19 new packages go in the bug tracker? May 10 12:52:27 apaulsen: yes May 10 12:52:42 apaulsen: or if you have r/w then directly. May 10 12:53:07 I think they need another set of eyes to look at them before they're committed :) May 10 12:55:23 apaulsen: sure. but we'd need a "java master" for OE, because old one (reenoo) is gone. So, please share your stuff - that would be much appreciated May 10 12:56:40 can someone point me to a good example of a bugtracker entry for new packages? I have several packages to add and I'd like to do it right May 10 12:57:23 apaulsen: add one by one as 'mtn diff' to metadata. add depends where needed May 10 12:57:28 psokolovsky: I'll gladly share my work, but my project is almost over and I don't think I'll be using OE in the near future so I might dissappear too May 10 12:58:19 apaulsen: well, that's another good reason to post your recipes to bugtracker ;-) at least you can testify they work ;-) May 10 12:59:28 apaulsen: as for "doing right", it's simple. just try to use "mtn diff" whenever possible, instead of attaching individual files. May 10 12:59:38 working on it :) May 10 12:59:40 apaulsen: for that, you of course might need to mtn add new May 10 12:59:47 apaulsen: Take a look at May 10 12:59:51 !oebug 2228 May 10 12:59:52 * * Bug 2228, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-03 15:22 May 10 12:59:53 * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: Meta-Bug: new or updated bb recipes May 10 12:59:54 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 May 10 13:00:02 apaulsen: I mean, "mtn add" new files May 10 13:00:12 I don't think all reports are best-practice. May 10 13:00:23 But I guess getting your stuff in is more important. May 10 13:00:39 You could make your bugs block 2228 as well to make sure they are noticed. May 10 13:02:34 apaulsen: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/StyleGuide is a good read, too, for the conventions we use on ordering fields for example and stuff. May 10 13:07:31 thanks guys, I got one package done. I'll have them all up soon. May 10 13:13:55 apaulsen: In the BTS? May 10 13:14:00 Can't see it yet May 10 13:14:22 Laibsch: have some patience :) I'm entering them right now May 10 13:15:24 Sure, no rush May 10 13:15:42 so I have to submit the bug, then add the files? I don't see any way to add the files while filling out the report. May 10 13:17:01 Yes, that is annoying but it seems there is no other way May 10 13:17:07 You add them one by one May 10 13:19:44 !oebug 2296 May 10 13:19:45 * * Bug 2296, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-10 06:17 May 10 13:19:46 * * andrew.paulsen(AT)gmail.com: Java updates May 10 13:19:48 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2296 May 10 13:20:29 Nice, thank you May 10 13:20:36 * Laibsch hops over to take a look May 10 13:23:58 I am not sure this is used at all, but why PROVIDES and not RPROVIDES? May 10 13:25:03 apaulsen: Very nice work indeed May 10 13:25:20 Laibsch: which file are you talking about? May 10 13:25:23 * wick728 is back (gone 18:47:40) May 10 13:30:54 hiall May 10 13:31:02 oops, I messed up those diffs and left out the /files May 10 13:31:17 im tring install ang on my 3200 but i got a No init found, kernel panic =/ May 10 13:31:40 i follow this steps May 10 13:31:42 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/angstrom-installation-spitz May 10 13:32:07 and downlaod 20070507 unstable May 10 13:32:28 psycoman, I'd guess that #angstrom is more appropriate channel. May 10 13:32:41 thnkx May 10 13:32:47 sry about that ^^ May 10 13:33:16 no problem. doesn't make much difference, really, the same people, but just to keep channels more or less topic-oriented :) May 10 13:38:00 Laibsch, did you intend to make lirc actually work on collie? May 10 13:41:59 ~lart packages that insist on linking against build system libraries May 10 13:42:00 * ibot beats packages that insist on linking against build system libraries over the head with a microkernel May 10 13:43:23 that should help :) May 10 13:43:39 which package this time? :) May 10 13:47:21 xfce someone? May 10 13:49:36 hrw, waddyamean? May 10 13:49:54 polyonymous: does someone use xfce here? May 10 13:50:08 ahh.. Thought you're suggesting to try it on device. May 10 13:50:19 polyonymous: want to do it? May 10 13:50:24 I can. May 10 13:50:31 then pull and build May 10 13:50:41 build what? May 10 13:50:49 "what do you want to bake today?" :) May 10 13:50:56 * polyonymous is pulling May 10 13:51:00 very cool May 10 13:52:37 aha, xfce-image? May 10 13:54:44 monotone is slow today. May 10 13:55:00 I have one xfce thing to push May 10 13:55:37 I'm still pulling... It's stuck after numbers following 'finding items to synchronize'... May 10 13:56:22 polyonymous: Im stuck as well, think oe.org is running slow May 10 13:56:44 yup. And we're waiting on each other :)) May 10 13:57:11 I wait too! May 10 13:57:19 makes three of us :) May 10 13:58:07 I will push to ewi May 10 13:59:02 ah, it advanced to the next step May 10 13:59:10 mtn: 491 | 1.4 k | 0 | 0 May 10 13:59:56 pushed to ewi May 10 14:00:21 what was ewi's full name? May 10 14:00:38 ~ewi May 10 14:00:58 well, ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - secondary backup server for OE monotone. May 10 14:00:58 ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl May 10 14:01:21 thank you guys and bots May 10 14:02:43 uh 20 commits :) May 10 14:03:26 * polyonymous bakes xfce-image May 10 14:03:58 opensource.wolfsonmicr.com is alsa a mirror May 10 14:04:06 opensource.wolfsonmicro.com May 10 14:07:07 apaulsen: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1463 May 10 14:07:30 polyonymous: eventually? yes. This month? no May 10 14:07:40 me? maybe May 10 14:08:08 Laibsch, ok, just wanted to know. May 10 14:12:00 hrw http://rafb.net/p/xTPSC981.html May 10 14:13:32 thx - will look May 10 14:17:55 Laibsch: I copied that PROVIDES from the JamVM recipe, RPROVIDES does seem more appropriate May 10 14:20:25 brb May 10 14:46:08 koen: build WebKitGdk if you are the fasted cross compiler in the west? ;) May 10 14:47:53 likewise: Just noticed your upstart update. which distro did you test it on? May 10 14:49:56 how do I see all packages that will be built for a particular package (dependencies)? May 10 14:53:50 hrw|gone, just looked into it - you miss xfce-dev-tools. May 10 14:55:37 polyonymous: want to add it? May 10 14:56:04 polyonymous: I wanted to clean my xfce dir which was since 4.4rc2 release May 10 14:58:40 hrw, I will. May 10 14:59:41 thx May 10 15:01:37 polyonymous: any notes regarding patched ipkg from you? May 10 15:01:46 psokolovsky_, so far so good. May 10 15:02:08 polyonymous: ok, I've cleaned up patchset, will post it soon, and let's have it applied ;-) May 10 15:02:21 sure. May 10 15:26:30 hrw, does it look sensible? http://rafb.net/p/hxZpAs59.html (I have another build failure now, but haven't even read the message, yet) May 10 15:28:48 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf2dc6bee... 10/ (61 files in 15 dirs): (log message trimmed) May 10 15:28:48 XFCE: update 4.2.x to 4.4.1 May 10 15:28:48 - xfcalendar replaced by orage May 10 15:28:48 - xffm replaced by thunar May 10 15:28:49 - added mousepad May 10 15:28:50 polyonymous: great! drop (c) May 10 15:28:51 - added xfce-terminal May 10 15:28:53 - added XFCE engine for GTK May 10 15:29:38 hrw, thought about it as well, I just startedd off of libxfce4util file (which seems to miss some headers that I'm about to add now) May 10 15:29:47 is this an old commit or the new one? May 10 15:31:27 old May 10 15:31:34 ok thx May 10 15:34:26 hrw, any reason why you don't stage *.h there? May 10 15:36:58 zecke: you here? Hi. May 10 15:38:15 sort of May 10 15:38:34 polyonymous: I started that work few months ago. recently looked at amount of random things in metadata and decided to check what to push. May 10 15:38:44 if you are busy I can get back to this later May 10 15:38:54 it's about icecc May 10 15:38:56 polyonymous: as long as apps are buildable I was happy with it May 10 15:39:06 tsdogs: well, just ask. And likely others can respond as well May 10 15:39:13 hrw, they aren't exactly buildable, looks like a few headers were added. May 10 15:39:26 ok, I have tryed out the icecc configuration in OE May 10 15:39:34 tsdogs: specially with icecc we have Laibsch and Ifaistos here as well May 10 15:39:41 I have a couple of issues which are: May 10 15:39:50 zecke: thx May 10 15:40:00 hrw, how about this: for file in $(eval $(make -n install|grep "^list='[^.]\\+.h"|cut -d\; -f1); echo $list) ; do ? May 10 15:40:22 that would expand in libxfce4util-enum-types.h debug.h i18n.h utf8.h util.h xfce-desktopentry.h xfce-fileutils.h xfce-generics.h xfce-i18n.h xfce-kiosk.h xfce-license.h xfce-miscutils.h xfce-rc.h xfce-resource.h xfce-utf8.h libxfce4util.h libxfce4util-config.h May 10 15:40:29 1. I have 2 building machines: one is i686 and the other is x86_64 May 10 15:40:56 with the actual version of the implementation in OE it seems that this config is not supported. is this right? May 10 15:41:14 * Ifaistos wonders who's calling him and makes irc go red :) May 10 15:41:34 Ifaistos: I have mentioned you are the icecc expert by now :) May 10 15:41:48 I have found a workaround about commenting out the VERSION in icecc version so to have my own compilers (which are the ones that OR builded on both machines) May 10 15:41:56 tsdogs : the x86_64 will service i686 request but not the other way around May 10 15:42:23 Thank you master zecke :) May 10 15:42:36 Ifaistos: ok. May 10 15:43:21 the other question is about sometimes in building some packets ICECC failes telling that it seems that it is calling itself. May 10 15:43:30 is this a setup issue or a OE one? May 10 15:43:45 tsdogs: is it reproducable with one package? May 10 15:43:57 well, kernel was on of this May 10 15:44:02 tsdogs: Any output to have a look at ? May 10 15:44:03 linux-handhelds-2.6 May 10 15:44:19 not right now, but I can get it tonight. May 10 15:44:55 tsdogs: give a ping when you do to have a look May 10 15:45:11 Ifaistos: ok bbl then. thx May 10 15:47:12 the "only" bugs i have found in the existing icecc class is that if you put a package on the ICECC_USER_CLASS_BL or in the ICECC_USER_PACKAGE_BL it still honors the PARALLEL_MAKE settings (i.e -j 10) and you end up running 10 threads on the same machine May 10 15:47:30 which slows down things if you run on a single cpu May 10 15:47:57 Ifaistos, I think it should be extended to -j -l combination May 10 15:48:31 (not that it's a proper fix to improper flags propagation) May 10 15:49:06 Ifaistos: I'm using -j 4 (P4 HT + AMD x64x2) May 10 15:49:43 it also needs a way to force PARALLEL_MAKE in those packages that have disabled it as icecc handles (most of them) without a problem May 10 15:51:32 tsdogs : it's good. I am running a 6 (+ 3 from time to time) machine cluster May 10 15:54:29 tsdogs: do you know http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream? May 10 15:55:26 That'w were I found icecc, not many other information out there. May 10 15:55:39 icecc outside oe seems to beworking fine. May 10 15:56:28 even with master x86_64. Setup was a bit triky but once understood how it worked, it's good. May 10 15:57:27 I have also made OE work with the master x86_64, overriding the icecc class ICECC_VERSION varible using the 2 compilers OE built. May 10 15:57:43 have not bothered about ccache though, should I? May 10 15:58:47 tsdogs : maybe that's why you get erros in some packages (overriding ICECC_VERSION) May 10 15:58:52 can someone enlighten me as to what this kernel message means? "dmabounce: registered device 0000:00:14.0 on pci bus" May 10 15:59:10 actually I see quite a few of those during startup May 10 15:59:25 tsdogs : the icecc bbclass tries to figure out which compiler to use in its case May 10 15:59:48 Well I can try to see if it works with only 1 building machine... May 10 16:00:31 tsdogs : make sure the icecc versions are exactly the same on all machines May 10 16:00:49 they are. and also the compiler too May 10 16:01:11 only difference is that one is x86_64 and the other is i686 May 10 16:08:57 cu May 10 16:18:20 Ifaistos: probably you are right, overriding the ICECC_VERSION could be the issue... I'll do some more testing tonight, and let you know. May 10 16:29:18 Hi everybody May 10 16:35:17 for all you conspiracy fans out there : http://debunking911.com/questions.htm May 10 16:36:01 Ifaistos: Nope. it failes during configuration... http://www.pastebin.ca/481077 May 10 17:07:16 hrw|gone, xfce-image kinda lacks any x startup, it seems. May 10 17:07:17 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r6e3fcd9a... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): May 10 17:07:17 minimo_cvs.bb : update to 0.2+SRCDATE taken from poky, added PE = "1" as May 10 17:07:17 ipkg thinkgs 0.016>0.02 May 10 17:07:17 minimo_0.016+cvs.bb : removed as _cvs is more uptodate. May 10 17:07:22 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r18d0e933... 10/ (1 classes/xfce.bbclass): xfce.bbclass: update for 4.4.1 May 10 17:07:27 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * re4baf94c... 10/ (10 files in 4 dirs): May 10 17:07:27 packages/{qmake,uicmoc}: Update qmake and uic/moc from Qt4.1.2 to 4.2.3 May 10 17:07:27 Version 4.2 is needed to compile the WebKit/Gdk port. Update the checksums.ini May 10 17:07:27 containing the md5/shasum of my download. May 10 17:07:28 Install qmake as qmake2 and qmake-qt4 to follow the debian naming of this May 10 17:07:30 binary. May 10 17:07:51 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r4db93ccd... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): May 10 17:07:51 packages/gperf: Add GNU perfect hash generator. This is needed for WebKit May 10 17:07:51 Add GNU gperf. The acinclude.m4 is a copy of the original aclocal.m4. May 10 17:07:51 The checksum was generated on a verified binary. I decided to trust the May 10 17:07:51 signature as it was signed by Daniel Jacobowitz. May 10 17:25:43 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r1de94bc3... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-app/xdm_1.1.3.bb): xdm: added missing dependency on libxaw May 10 17:27:10 zecke: wicked WebKit crawls nearer then May 10 17:28:12 re May 10 17:30:38 XorA: the wc of WebKit is 303MB and this makes some headache :) May 10 17:30:58 XorA: thanks to alp the GdkLauncher worked before I started May 10 17:31:32 I got bv4 May 10 17:32:56 XorA: I think the RSS reader will use WebKit within the next two work days (the next three days will be spent doing uni stuff) May 10 17:43:18 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rf320e990... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xfce4-dev-tools: added package, because libxfce4util needs it. May 10 17:43:22 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r2734216f... 10/ (1 packages/xfce/libxfce4util.inc): libxfce4util: added xfce4-dev-tools as a dependency and expanded list of headers being staged. May 10 17:47:16 hrw, well, it loads, but it's missing like every bit of configuration or I'm missing something :) May 10 17:49:28 polyonymous: I upgraded but not tested it. and it was broken before May 10 17:54:50 hrw, ah, okay, then I'm done with "testing". xfce-image looks totally broken too. May 10 18:05:19 ------- Comment #1 from france@handhelds.org 2007-05-10 13:58 ------- May 10 18:05:20 oe and oe-commits mailing lists removed. The archives remain. May 10 18:05:22 YES! May 10 18:05:52 cu May 10 18:38:06 What's the current state of using toolchains created by OE for development? May 10 18:39:39 Crofton: they work, for c++ the toolchain need to be placed in the dir it was compiled to be in May 10 18:40:14 hmm, so I could just set my path to include the OE dir where the toolchain is? May 10 18:40:33 right cross/bin, I do that to compile my shark kernel May 10 18:40:54 Crofton: I use that to compile kernel all the time (because using OE for kernel hacking is mad of course) May 10 18:41:05 wc -l configure.ac May 10 18:41:09 849 configure.ac May 10 18:41:15 yeah May 10 18:41:34 I can see myself getting into a situation where I am hacking ... May 10 18:41:44 ~/lart libgcrypt May 10 18:48:04 hi May 10 18:59:20 tsdogs : hmmm strange... never seen something like this May 10 18:59:51 tsdogs : have you made any other changes to icecc other than what you have told me ? May 10 19:18:31 koen: I need a hand on icu May 10 19:18:38 koen: mentally prepare to fix a lot of autofoo May 10 19:19:53 blech May 10 19:20:01 * koen spent 4 hours in traffic jams today May 10 19:20:18 * koen also takes of the suit May 10 19:20:25 poor boy May 10 19:23:49 re May 10 19:26:44 florian: wb May 10 19:31:33 mtn --db=/home/jake/OE/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev <- do I need that everytime I update? May 10 19:31:49 or can I just cd org.openembedded.dev; mtn update ? May 10 19:32:43 second one May 10 19:33:13 summatusmentis: yes and no. pull pulls the data from oe.org into your local database, update updates the working copy from your _local_ database. May 10 19:33:50 summatusmentis: but after first one, you can just do "mtn pull" and "mtn update". but both May 10 19:34:44 oh, ok, so I need to update the database from oe.org, then I update my local database from the copy that I just updated from the oe.org one? May 10 19:34:53 that's convoluted, but yeah May 10 19:35:34 summatusmentis: to be exact, second update is your workcopy from your local db May 10 19:35:50 psokolovsky_: ok, makes sense May 10 19:36:04 but just mtn pull? not the big long one? May 10 19:37:38 summatusmentis: yes. or at least, there's a special switch to pull like "remember current params as default" - I don't remember now if it does that automatically if none defaults or no. use "mtn help pull" May 10 19:38:40 I think it's done automatically May 10 19:38:47 --set-default will set current options to future default May 10 19:38:54 summatusmentis: I think mtn does that by default May 10 19:39:05 well, --set-default won't hurt May 10 19:39:07 you can check in the _MTN/options file May 10 19:41:00 or mtn ls vars :) May 10 19:42:26 ok, I just did mtn --set-default pull May 10 19:43:06 summatusmentis, that doesn't make much sense, you don't specify anything to set default from :) it's equivalent to just mtn pull, I guess. May 10 19:43:28 But I guess that's enough for you May 10 19:43:32 polyonymous: oh... well, whatever, if i bork it, I bork it, and redownload, nt a huge deal May 10 19:43:35 (if it worked) May 10 19:43:52 heh, I don't think it borks. If it works, then you have defaults set. May 10 19:44:05 if you don't have proper defaults set, it likely just will not work. May 10 19:44:18 seems to be working, 51 revisions May 10 19:44:28 good. May 10 19:49:24 koen: I updated patches for #2244. if you find it working ok, let's commit it and go for wider testing May 10 19:50:09 psokolovsky_: what changed between v1 and v2? May 10 19:50:44 * koen is too lazy to dig out diffdiff May 10 19:52:02 koen: there were basicly 2 patches. 1 remains as is. for the second, I fiddled trying to maintain uniqueness using hashtable, but at the end just disabled any such checks. v2 just cleans code I added and later commented. May 10 19:52:21 psokolovsky_, works well so far for me. May 10 19:52:42 nice May 10 19:52:58 polyonymous: you mean patch v2? May 10 19:53:03 psokolovsky_, yes May 10 19:53:25 I only installed like a couple of ipks since I upgraded, but it went smoothly. May 10 19:53:35 Of course I'll let you know if I bump into problems. May 10 19:54:12 psokolovsky_, wanted to ask you - is there any particular reason why we manually disable psplash in opie init-script? May 10 19:54:29 (I haven't tried commenting out the code yet) May 10 19:55:19 good. I of course also did minimal confidence testing with new patch, even though it's equiavalent to old semantically May 10 19:56:15 polyonymous: hm, do we? IIRC, in the end, I taught it to catch VT switch. but if not, then it's what took psplash to work with opie ;-) May 10 19:56:18 I'm looking into irda-applet now. Strangely enough after first install of angstrom-opie-image it seemingly worked. Now it behaves somewhat strangely. May 10 19:57:00 psokolovsky_, Yes, psplash catches the switch - this is exactly why I'm asking about init-script, whether it's a leftover or there is a reason behind it. May 10 19:57:40 polyonymous: ok, consider it catch-all handler then ;-) May 10 19:58:21 psokolovsky_, but the good thing about catching switch is pure aesthetics - the loading is more or less consistent in this case. May 10 19:58:53 psokolovsky_, besides, correct me if I'm wrong,if psplash doesn't go away on its own accord, it would just sit there and take up memory and won't do any more harm? May 10 19:59:45 hrw|gone: NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (1770/4181) [42 %]ERROR: Could not include required file libxfce4mcs.inc while parsing /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libxfce4mcs/libxfce4mcs_4.3.99.2.bb May 10 19:59:52 polyonymous: well, if you want to do sth about it, please post patch, but let *enough* time for everyone affected to test it May 10 20:00:15 polyonymous: there was conflict between psplash and qpe May 10 20:00:16 koen, I don't have this message... May 10 20:00:49 psokolovsky_, first I wanted to know if this is actually intended. May 10 20:00:57 Next, I'll use myself as a guinea pig :) May 10 20:01:08 Just removed the code and rebooted. May 10 20:01:14 polyonymous: doing "mtn ls unkown" before going to bed? ;-) May 10 20:01:34 psokolovsky_, lemme see :) May 10 20:01:57 (it's not bed-time, yet, though :) May 10 20:01:57 polyonymous: yeah, there was quite a chore for various people when psplash was added May 10 20:02:09 ;-) May 10 20:02:38 psokolovsky_, yes, the question is if it was before or after psplash learnt to catch vt-switch. May 10 20:02:48 and no, I don't have unknowns I'm not aware of. May 10 20:03:39 and yes, I touched the .bb in question and got the message :) May 10 20:04:08 polyonymous: psplash was always able to catch switch. it just it doesn't work that well. at least, with opie. I suggest to leave it alone ;-) May 10 20:04:41 psokolovsky_, I'm not going to push the change without bring up the subject again, no worries. May 10 20:05:27 polyonymous: it's jsut it was handled no so long ago, and there're otehr things in queue, not yet handled at all ;-) May 10 20:05:34 hmmm... May 10 20:05:57 assignment operator has higher precedence than comparison (= and == that is) ? May 10 20:06:35 psokolovsky_, yes, I'm not going to "handle" it in any way, just commented out lines in my init and that's it for now. May 10 20:06:59 what is this supposed to do? if (m_sockfd = ::socket ( PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_IP ) == -1) May 10 20:07:14 I have a strong feeling that it first compares and then assigns. May 10 20:08:06 what is the relative prio between = and == May 10 20:08:28 Crofton, that's what I asked a couple of lines above :) I thought == is of higher priority May 10 20:08:41 But opie developers seem to think otherwise. May 10 20:08:46 * polyonymous is googling May 10 20:08:49 polyonymous: that's true May 10 20:08:56 yup. May 10 20:08:58 i.e that's bug May 10 20:09:10 let's see... May 10 20:09:33 polyonymous: you likely miss () :) May 10 20:09:41 zecke, me?? :) May 10 20:09:47 yes May 10 20:09:53 we all miss it badly in opie-irdaapplet :) May 10 20:09:57 if in doubt, split it up :) May 10 20:09:58 (polyonymous) May 10 20:10:16 I can never remember precedence, so my code is always full of parentheses :) May 10 20:10:21 polyonymous: You can buy () and [] for just 0,99Cent a month May 10 20:10:34 what if I pay for a year in advance? May 10 20:10:41 I can't remember how it should work .... May 10 20:10:48 a lot May 10 20:10:49 http://www.cppreference.com/operator_precedence.html May 10 20:10:55 I would split it up, just for that reason ...... May 10 20:10:58 zecke, will I get a discount? May 10 20:11:12 Crofton, that's what I'm doing in my code all the time. May 10 20:11:56 but, the grouping operator should execute almost first May 10 20:12:08 polyonymous: please don't do it here though. May 10 20:12:31 apple broke WebKit and I'm going home :} May 10 20:12:35 psokolovsky_, I don't normally speak c++ on the channel :) May 10 20:12:52 polyonymous: pls remind me full filename May 10 20:13:15 polyonymous, you wrote correctly right, put () around assignment and you should be ok May 10 20:13:17 psokolovsky_, irda.cpp in, I think, core/applets/opie-irdaapplet May 10 20:13:19 got an odd question here... a device on has ROM (not flash)... linux is booted from CF... is it (theoretically) possible to suspend/resume the device? May 10 20:13:49 psokolovsky_, I'll see if it not only fixes bug, but also helps now :) May 10 20:14:33 polyonymous: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/opie/core/applets/irdaapplet/irda.cpp.diff?r1=1.24&r2=1.25&f=h May 10 20:14:36 fsck May 10 20:14:55 we should review chanegs from upstream before using it %) May 10 20:15:04 heh May 10 20:15:11 I'll add a patch now. May 10 20:16:09 polyonymous: anyway, kudos for going to solve such issues. because I got disperate for doing all qte patch cleanup on my own ;-) May 10 20:16:37 I can imagine :) May 10 20:17:20 luckily this is the issue that can be solved by looking at the code with no extensive debugging which I'm not all set up for at the moment. May 10 20:18:46 heh, it actually works now :) May 10 20:19:02 polyonymous: it still takes enough eyeballs to make such bugs shallow ;-) May 10 20:19:10 great! May 10 20:19:26 psokolovsky_, sure, there's a lot of code in opie :) May 10 20:22:57 cya May 10 20:23:55 hmm... mtn push takes a while... monotone is slow today. May 10 20:24:23 polyonymous: you can push to a mirror as well? May 10 20:24:27 s/?// May 10 20:24:32 that's what I do :) May 10 20:24:34 koen, I can. May 10 20:24:40 And it looks like I will :) May 10 20:24:57 it's just that I've just pulled and it worked fine. May 10 20:25:24 Oh, it started to push slowly. May 10 20:26:03 ltg is a bit IO starved these days May 10 20:26:22 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r664a6ede... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): opie-irdaapplet: added patch to take operator precedence into account. May 10 20:32:23 Guess I need my wife's palm to test sending of files... May 10 20:34:57 anyone know of a good example for talking to a linux serial port? May 10 20:35:59 echo "hi" > /dev/ttyS0? May 10 20:36:12 something more detailed :) May 10 20:36:50 Crofton: echo "hello world" > /dev/ttyS0 :) May 10 20:37:40 Crofton: if you ar looking for code examples, you might want to take a look at the source for gpsd... May 10 20:37:46 ah May 10 20:37:47 thanks May 10 20:38:06 Crofton: or even minicom or picocom... May 10 20:50:00 ~oemirrors May 10 20:50:29 from memory, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted May 10 20:52:52 how do you beam files with opie, anyway? :) May 10 20:58:38 03wolfson 07org.oe.dev * ra5932aea... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS : fix indenting May 10 20:58:53 XorA: there you go :) May 10 20:59:18 polyonymous: you can beam obex object from say contacts May 10 20:59:41 polyonymous: you also can beam contact from phome to opie May 10 20:59:45 polyonymous, aha, I'll try that. May 10 20:59:50 That I tried May 10 20:59:57 polyonymous: I witnessed only second work, however May 10 21:00:14 Works only if I run opd for IRDA, which isn't the default and doesn't have anything to do with opie. May 10 21:01:09 But opie-irdaapplet, it seems, isn't supposed to handle receive, only enable/disable it. Am I missing some application? May 10 21:01:19 koen: so is the LTG server slowing down or is it an upstream problem ? May 10 21:03:04 mtn: bytes in | bytes out | revs in | revs out May 10 21:03:04 mtn: 1.6 M | 3.0 M | 0/0 | 1008/3476 May 10 21:03:13 XorA: wolfson is a bit behind :) May 10 21:03:51 ouch...I think that pull will take a while... May 10 21:04:47 the automerger just merged over 3.5k csets, so pull might be take a small bit longer May 10 21:06:50 psokolovsky_, no external device sees Z and Z when beaming says complete and does nothing :) May 10 21:07:19 koen: could you take a look at the patch for dirctfb in bug 413. indeed the best approach is to fix getpagesize in linux-libc-header, but at least with this patch, dirctfb can build now May 10 21:09:15 xjqia1, what's wrong with getpagesize in headers? May 10 21:09:57 polyonymous: sorry, i meant fix TO getpagesize() May 10 21:10:14 xjqia1, ah, then it's directfb that should be fixed, not headers. May 10 21:10:36 I've recently had to fix quite a few getpagesize()s :) May 10 21:10:44 * koen heads to bed May 10 21:10:48 'night all May 10 21:10:49 polyonymous: #define PAGE_SIZE (1UL << PAGE_SHIFT) in linux-libc-header is alien according to koen May 10 21:11:18 xjqia1, where is it? I thought it isn't defined there. May 10 21:11:29 polyonymous: yeah, that's what i did for directfb May 10 21:11:31 It's in asm/page.h, I believe and it isn't there anymore. May 10 21:11:51 you normally should replace PAGE_SIZE usage with getpagesize() May 10 21:13:49 !oebug 413 May 10 21:13:51 * * Bug 413, Status: ASSIGNED, Created: 2005-10-20 10:31 May 10 21:13:52 * * mducksub(AT)atari-source.com: sdl-perl installs to incorrect location May 10 21:13:53 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413 May 10 21:14:48 polyonymous: do you mean asm/page.h is not there anymore? May 10 21:14:49 right now directfb fails on me with failed patch :) May 10 21:15:17 xjqia1, there are two asm/page.h - the empty one from libc and the one from kernel that provides definitions only #ifdef __KERNEL__ May 10 21:16:14 NOTE: Applying patch 'fix-pkgconfig-cflags.patch' May 10 21:16:14 NOTE: Task failed: Error: /home/hacker/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/directfb/files/./fix-pkgconfig-cflags.patch not found. May 10 21:16:32 it's a typo May 10 21:16:46 ahh May 10 21:16:51 polyonymous: fix-pkgconfig-specs.patch May 10 21:16:52 'morning' all May 10 21:17:00 sorry, i didn't change that in my patch May 10 21:17:01 I see May 10 21:17:39 rebaking May 10 21:17:59 and, that patch was not mine, anyway:) May 10 21:18:22 so, directfb is totally broken and therefore safe to fix? :) May 10 21:19:28 I suppose so, since seems the original maintainer has left it without basic love May 10 21:19:49 xjqia1, hang on then. May 10 21:21:32 well, as hrw suggested, we may want to package dirctfb lib in a glandular fashion May 10 21:22:16 xjqia1, I'm not really into it, I'll just fix this issue :) May 10 21:23:49 sounds fine, I may look like a packaging purist, but I'm not one really. Just banging my head on the desk to understand the oe stuff May 10 21:24:19 xjqia1, clean packaging is a good thing, it's just that I'm not overly interested in directfb at the moment :) May 10 21:25:22 xjqia1, http://rafb.net/p/yFkPAu95.html may take a while before I commit :) May 10 21:26:03 ok, thanks. May 10 21:33:09 RP, you there man? May 10 21:39:21 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rdfdbf1d5... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): May 10 21:39:21 directfb: fixed to build on recent kernels wrt PAGE_SIZE definition May 10 21:39:21 and corrected typo in patch filename May 10 21:42:51 kristoffer: yes May 10 21:48:13 RP: wb :) May 10 21:52:28 polyonymous: at least it doesn't hang? May 10 21:52:39 psokolovsky_, no, not for me. May 10 21:53:00 I'm exploring opie for irda implementation further now May 10 21:56:56 RP: have you had a chace to look at the patches for #2096 ? May 10 21:57:04 !oebug 2096 May 10 21:57:05 * * Bug 2096, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-09 08:20 May 10 21:57:06 * * hvontres(AT)sbcglobal.net: 2.6 Kernel on Poodle disables VCC (Pin11) on IO connector May 10 21:57:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2096 May 10 22:01:43 polyonymous: what you will notice is that there're duplication and inconsistency. for example, irda and bt use the same underlying obex proto, but both handled differently. so, don't go too deep with that today ;-) May 10 22:02:54 psokolovsky_, well, I'm not going to rewrite opie, but getting a bit familiar with it (I'm _totally_ unfamiliar) wouldn't hurt. May 10 22:03:56 hvontres|poodle: I've looked now. You're patching generic code with poodle specifics :/ May 10 22:04:24 polyonymous: ah, so we're on same base here ;-) May 10 22:04:40 psokolovsky_, I think you've hacked more on it. May 10 22:04:54 RP: Hi! what about committing those patches for TERMCMD* checks? May 10 22:05:18 psokolovsky_: Did we have any thoughts on other error codes? May 10 22:05:39 polyonymous: just a little bit, and on qte side mostly May 10 22:06:07 Well, we've got a lot of stuff to hack :) May 10 22:06:25 RP: yes, we had - we don't know about other error codes. so, let's commit handling for ones we know, and keep watching stuff May 10 22:07:03 psokolovsky_: I think I'd prefer - check for !=0, fix any that break when they shouldn;t ;-) May 10 22:07:24 polyonymous: well, not that all actually, now that we're horde ;-) May 10 22:07:42 RP: as you wish ;-) May 10 22:08:17 polyonymous: fixing irda/BT, and possibly wifi, mostly the last thing to bring opie back to shine, imho. May 10 22:08:17 psokolovsky_, "nas rat'", sure :) May 10 22:08:45 polyonymous: after that, just gdb from time to time ;-) May 10 22:08:55 my wifi CF is broken :( May 10 22:09:21 I've spent some time to pair BT with my phone and I'm not going to touch it until I'm back from Moscow :) May 10 22:09:41 ;-) May 10 22:10:16 But since I'm leaving in 3 days, I think I won't have much progress with irda as well. May 10 22:27:53 RP: Actually, those weren't my patches... May 10 22:28:21 hvontres|poodle: I realised that, sorry :) May 10 22:28:31 The comment still applies though, the need to be adapted May 10 22:30:32 RP: Ok. Any thoughts on what might be wrong with pxafb? I tried a kernel without the pxa270 overlay patch and the screen still didn't come back after resume :( May 10 22:31:13 hvontres|poodle: No, that is strange. All I can suggest is bisecting to find the problematic change in the kernel May 10 22:31:30 psokolovsky_, I'm impressed by opie insides :( May 10 22:32:05 hi May 10 22:32:08 yo May 10 22:32:24 * polyonymous hails segfault May 10 22:33:46 Just a heads up, but I'm going to start looking at updating us to Bugzilla 3. It has some of the stuff in it that Zecke has been bugging me about for a long while May 10 22:35:54 polyonymous: lol ;-) May 10 22:36:13 psokolovsky_, opie has like a dozen of nested classes for sending over irda and ends up executing irobex_palm3. Not sure why it doesn't work, but it sure isn't supposed to complain because it doesn't give a damn about return code. May 10 22:36:30 ;-) May 10 22:36:46 psokolovsky_, I'll see if there's an easy way to fix it, but basically it makes no sense without cvs access to opie. May 10 22:36:47 maybe it doesn't known where to put temporary files ;-) May 10 22:37:01 polyonymous: yup May 10 22:37:06 I don't see any point in their cvs freeze. You can't break it if it ain't fixed. May 10 22:37:14 RP: Thanks. Oh, btw, the uname -r think turned out to be PEBCAK.... I had KERNEL_VERSION="2.6" left over in my local.conf... May 10 22:37:32 if they at least used svn I'd branch off using `git svn`.... May 10 22:37:54 psokolovsky_, it puts file into /tmp/obex fine. May 10 22:38:26 psokolovsky_, maybe it emptied path somewhere on the way, not sure yet. May 10 22:38:38 polyonymous: you can do git-cvsimport ;-I. but talk not about that of course May 10 22:39:06 psokolovsky_, that wouldn't allow for incremental merges. May 10 22:39:25 psokolovsky_, not that we actually need more stuff like that in irdaapplet :))) May 10 22:39:57 I liked it does check exit status. May 10 22:40:03 ;-) May 10 22:40:22 looks like only for 0 and 255, though. May 10 22:40:45 polyonymous: btw, cvsimport does allow incremental tracking. of course, it hardly would work for any big cvs project at all ;-) May 10 22:40:46 hvontres|poodle: ah, that would break it :) May 10 22:41:16 psokolovsky_, well.. to be true, I've only tried cvsimport once and it failed on initial import :) May 10 22:44:23 Warning: QSocket::writeBlock: Socket is not open May 10 22:44:23 is what I get when trying to send over irda :) May 10 22:45:04 polyonymous: now you should be understanding what I rambled about logging back then ;) May 10 22:45:23 psokolovsky_, well, I didn't question the importance of loggin. May 10 23:19:31 psokolovsky_, it turns out I've just been unable to select recipient. May 10 23:21:10 polyonymous: so, is it better now? May 10 23:21:45 psokolovsky_, yup, you will like the fix: http://rafb.net/p/eLOEfZ11.html May 10 23:23:14 polyonymous: lol!! May 10 23:23:23 ;-))) May 10 23:23:34 polyonymous: did you check other "image not found" messages? May 10 23:23:47 not all of them May 10 23:24:15 ok May 10 23:24:33 there are quite a few devicebuttons notfounds, but they aren't related, so I didn't look into it May 10 23:25:20 so, I've beamed contact from Z to phone. May 10 23:25:30 now I'll try with palm May 10 23:27:03 RP: But you would be suprised at how subtle that breakage was...the failure turned out to be that 2.6 fails the version check inide of depmod-cross, which causes it to fall back to parsing uname -r..... May 10 23:27:41 RP: and then all of the postinst scripts for the module packages get the same breakage... May 10 23:30:37 polyonymous: great work, thanks much! May 10 23:31:41 psokolovsky_, pushing it now. May 10 23:32:22 successfully beamed 0.5M from Z to palm. May 10 23:33:35 can't get palm to see Z, though. Well, I'll look into receiver later. May 10 23:33:53 I think it's in the same libopieobex, but I closed the file already :) May 10 23:37:28 polyonymous: sorry, so what didn't work? z to receive from palm? May 10 23:38:01 psokolovsky_, no, sending. I just didn't know I couldn't select recipient and assumed that the one selected in listbox is the destination. May 10 23:38:26 polyonymous: by to say you beamed 0.5m? May 10 23:38:32 from Z to palm. May 10 23:38:49 (that is - with check.png in place) May 10 23:38:51 polyonymous: your paran patch committed ;-) it makes sense to push stuff upstream ;-) May 10 23:39:01 well, ok May 10 23:39:12 which patch? May 10 23:39:39 aah, I see May 10 23:39:57 Good to know. May 10 23:40:04 But I think I won't be doing that till I'm back. May 10 23:41:27 np, you already do much enough ;-) May 10 23:41:53 anyway, nuff for today, goodnight :) May 10 23:52:51 Good night! May 11 00:21:55 somebody take a look at bug 2299, a trivial bug with patch supplied May 11 00:22:32 also I plan to update gnuplot from 4.0.0 (released 2004) to 4.2.0 (released march 2007!) May 11 00:23:40 if the maintainer has any objections please let me know, thanks May 11 00:24:14 !oebug 2299 May 11 00:24:15 * * Bug 2299, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-10 17:19 May 11 00:24:16 * * xjqian(AT)gmail.com: gnuplot packaging QA issue May 11 00:24:17 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2299 May 11 00:26:22 CoreDump: I'm new to using irc, thanks for the tip May 11 00:26:56 no worries May 11 00:27:04 !oebug 2290 May 11 00:27:06 * * Bug 2290, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-09 19:16 May 11 00:27:07 * * summatusmentis(AT)gmail.com: angstrom-x11-image custom build breaks NAND May 11 00:27:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2290 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 11 02:59:56 2007