**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 16 02:59:57 2007 May 16 05:26:06 rwhitby: Resistance is futile :) We are looking also at the nslu2 to replace another arm based board ->http://www.armtwister.com May 16 07:21:44 gm May 16 07:46:14 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r36a3e8d1... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libtool-{cross,native}_1.5.22 : Add changes from Poky to 1.5.22. May 16 07:46:20 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r42944a2f... 10/ (1 packages/gimp/babl_svn.bb): babl: fix up packaging May 16 07:46:24 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r74fc3044... 10/ (1 packages/libtool/libtool-cross_1.5.22.bb): libtool-cross_1.5.22.bb : Comment out experimental, unfinished patch. May 16 07:46:28 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rdbc7b93a... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): conf/checksums.ini: Add my icu sums May 16 07:46:33 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rb43a990c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): May 16 07:46:33 packages/uclubc: Enable C99 math to get isnan needed for perl on ansgtrom May 16 07:46:33 Feel free to move this to the machine files if it is not a distro feature May 16 07:46:37 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r5ea2eafc... 10/ (23 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) May 16 07:46:37 clamav: Add 0.90.2 version, remove older versions plus a number of other May 16 07:46:37 changes: May 16 07:46:38 * Remove 0.88.6 May 16 07:46:39 * Added 0.90.2 May 16 07:46:42 * Add a new clamav-conf package to hold clamd.conf. This is needed by May 16 07:46:44 both clamd and freshclam and previously you needed to install clamd May 16 07:46:48 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r92b2a66c... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs): May 16 07:46:50 havp 0.86: Add new version. This version is compatile with the clamav 0.9x May 16 07:46:51 versions. May 16 07:46:53 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r06ba0a3a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): uclibc 0.9.29: Add machine configuration for the sh4 based titan board. May 16 07:46:56 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r7e88b3d7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): May 16 07:46:58 clamav 0.90.2: Fix build for uclibc by testing for libintl and linking May 16 07:47:02 against it if required and added virtual/libintl to DEPENDS to ensure May 16 07:47:04 the functionality exists either in libc or via a seperate library. May 16 07:47:06 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r8ec5fdea... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): May 16 07:47:08 sudo 1.6.8p12: Redo the long long autoconf macros using what is in the May 16 07:47:10 current sudo cvs, the previous version wasn't really correct. Should May 16 07:47:12 close #1462. May 16 08:22:04 morning May 16 08:27:37 hey hrw May 16 08:30:13 hrw: any idea on oebug 2326? May 16 08:30:26 !oebug 2326 May 16 08:30:43 * * Bug 2326, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-15 20:46 May 16 08:30:43 * * : minimo not aware of Fn key May 16 08:30:44 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2326 May 16 08:30:51 no idea May 16 08:31:22 probably crummy code by mozilla dudes May 16 08:31:29 mozilla doesnt allow modmap keymaps May 16 08:31:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r638a1d66... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gnome-doc-utils_0.10.3.bb): gnome-doc-utils: update to 0.10.3 May 16 08:31:54 I think we need to move to Kbd keymaps May 16 08:32:06 modmap is ancient history anyway May 16 08:33:18 XorA: do you mean xkbd and xmodmap? May 16 08:33:59 psokolovsky_: yeah but not the virtual keyboard that is called xkbd May 16 08:41:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3bbd9735... 10/ (1 packages/evince/evince_0.9.0.bb): evince: update to 0.9.0, from poky May 16 08:42:36 koen: hi, was my uclibc change okay? May 16 08:43:11 zecke: sort of May 16 08:43:24 zecke: since you only updated one machine May 16 08:43:40 koen: well, merging of the uclibc files is bad :) May 16 08:45:52 koen: we are past perl, now gnutls failed and hopefully will fail on populate_staging soon May 16 08:45:55 it just did May 16 08:46:23 wow it recompiles on do_stage :} May 16 08:48:13 Do we need C99_MATH for anything else? I think I can turn of the need for it in perl pretty easily. May 16 08:50:59 v8jlene: perl uses it for isnan, so you are likely right May 16 08:51:25 koen: should uclibc install a libintl.h? May 16 08:52:46 koen: no gettext should install it... May 16 08:54:04 bbl May 16 08:56:29 v8jlene : I think asterisk needs C99_MATH can't remember for sure though May 16 08:59:57 zecke: virtual/libintl? May 16 09:00:15 koen: well gettext installed a libintl.so.3.4.0 May 16 09:11:30 Shouldn't we enable everything for the generic uclibc.distro config? May 16 09:12:12 does that make sense? May 16 09:12:19 probably... May 16 09:12:30 we are almost using a maximum uclibc config already May 16 09:12:51 it makes sense to trim it down only when you know (a) which distro is used (b) which set of packages is used May 16 09:12:56 Ifaistos: Doesn't look like it, but it has GLOB issues. Turning on UCLIBC_HAS_GNU_GLOB looks like it'd make it work, but it looks like all it does is #define the flags asterisk wants without supporting them.. so probably better to fix asterisk. May 16 09:13:33 The T2 project has uclibc related patches for packages (i.e. having pkgs compiled with uclibc) May 16 09:15:41 v8jlene : yes asterisk needs GNU_GLOB defined. I stambled on an app that need it MATH_C99 but can't remember which it was May 16 09:15:49 I'm undecided.... while I'd like it as small as possible I'm not sure I'd like the breakage/work from that... May 16 09:15:56 http://www.t2-project.org/packages/uclibc.html May 16 09:16:28 v8jlene : i think the "generic" versions of config should be that, cover as many as possible options. May 16 09:16:47 It would be handy if we could document the package requirements on each of the uclibc config items, now that we are busy with uclibc. May 16 09:16:49 v8jlene : distro/machine specific version can do what they want May 16 09:18:12 good morning May 16 09:18:50 Ifaistos: Asterisk doesn't actually gain anything with GNU_GLOB though - uclibc gets 50k bigger and all that it does for asterisk is define a few flags that uclibc doesn't even support... May 16 09:21:45 koen: am I right that gettext provide virtual/libintl? May 16 09:21:59 zecke: it seems to be doing it :) May 16 09:22:18 koen: it should stage libintl.h May 16 09:23:18 hi mickey May 16 09:24:50 hey florian May 16 09:26:04 mickey alive... May 16 09:26:09 mickey: finished moving? May 16 09:26:17 hey mickey May 16 09:26:34 * koen wonders why mickey didn't move the 'l' May 16 09:26:57 Bah, harald really needs to be taught how to write proper recipes May 16 09:27:09 not finished, but I need to work a couple of hours since we're in a critical phase May 16 09:27:21 today office furniture should arrive May 16 09:27:24 on friday, DSL May 16 09:27:31 on weekend, office gets moved May 16 09:27:36 koen: : heh May 16 09:33:25 anyone heard something about MDD07 yet? May 16 09:33:28 * mickey didn't May 16 09:34:51 Mickeyl Developing Day 07? May 16 09:34:53 ah May 16 09:34:57 June 1st : Notification of talks and registration May 16 09:35:00 heh May 16 09:35:11 hrw: Mobile Developer Days in norway May 16 09:35:18 denmark, even May 16 09:36:17 ah that ones May 16 09:37:00 sponsored by TT and we were invited by Knut? May 16 09:37:10 something like that May 16 09:37:31 ålborg? May 16 09:37:39 ya May 16 09:37:47 * hrw will be here in ~30-40 minutes May 16 09:38:38 mickey: could you send a (short) response to knut's mail to oe-private? May 16 09:38:39 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r46b1047d... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_svn.bb): gpe-bluetooth: Add svn version. May 16 09:38:45 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb7bdef0f... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-webcore/osb-jscore_svn.bb): osb-jscore: Update to build latest svn trunk. May 16 09:38:57 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r67200d1e... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-webcore/osb-nrcore_svn.bb): osb-nrcore: Update to build latest svn trunk. May 16 09:39:03 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re39fd671... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-webcore/osb-nrcit_svn.bb): osb-nrcit: Update to build latest svn trunk. May 16 09:40:01 koen: okay gettext needs fixing May 16 09:40:49 hey zecke May 16 09:41:39 koen: promise to do that today. May 16 09:41:42 + I May 16 09:44:16 thanks May 16 09:44:47 np May 16 09:49:55 koen: /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 libintl.h /opt/trolltech/neo-uclibc/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi/gettext-0.14.1-r5/temp-staging/usr/include/libintl.h; does that make sense to you? May 16 09:51:12 brb May 16 09:59:51 temp-staging? May 16 10:01:41 yes :) May 16 10:01:50 looks like a broken install target ;) May 16 10:15:04 re May 16 10:17:18 wb May 16 10:20:12 shit, bitbake/OE is b0rked :-( May 16 10:21:43 its randomely not packaging files without any errors May 16 10:22:12 zecke: temp-staging is from commit d03e5ca1084f5be98ee7abe28783d5017ed90397 May 16 10:23:19 XorA: QA errors May 16 10:26:26 koen: not as far as I can see May 16 10:28:09 koen: I shall have to see if I can reliably cause the fault May 16 10:29:12 v8jlene: I don't see it there May 16 10:29:37 * zecke is clueles on LDAP :} May 16 10:32:36 zecke: temp-staging, isn't that autotools_stage_ / May 16 10:32:42 s:/:?: May 16 10:35:02 koen: looks like it May 16 10:35:10 zecke: The change to the autotools_stage_all function in classes/autotools.bbclass that koen committed yesterday May 16 10:37:16 http://rafb.net/p/vkE4sI56.html May 16 10:37:33 zecke: gettext (and gnutls) all built fine here with uclibc May 16 10:37:36 no changes after 2005 May 16 10:38:55 v8jlene: find . -name 'libintl.h' May 16 10:39:10 v8jlene: replace '.' with your $TMPDIR May 16 10:40:34 zecke: it's where it's meant to be: tmp/staging/sh4-linux-uclibc/include/libintl.h I also just deleted it and then cleaned/rebuilt gettext and it re-appeared May 16 10:44:10 v8jlene: let me pull first May 16 10:44:27 v8jlene: I have libintl.so but no installed header May 16 10:44:39 koen: XorA : start to use ipkg_diff May 16 10:46:07 what is the official site for tslib? I can only find it on oe.org :( May 16 10:46:36 keesj: berlios.de May 16 10:47:04 thanks May 16 10:47:05 http://tslib.berlios.de/ to be exact May 16 10:47:21 koen: /home/gg/zaurus/org.openembedded.dev/packages/evince/evince/./no-icon-theme.diff May 16 10:47:28 koen: check it in please May 16 10:47:42 whoops May 16 10:48:24 sorry about that May 16 10:51:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6f56c7d8... 10/ (1 packages/evince/evince/no-icon-theme.diff): evince: checkin missing patch May 16 10:52:05 XorA: there you go May 16 10:52:15 koen: cheers May 16 11:27:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r32aab439... 10/ (1 packages/hicolor-icon-theme/hicolor-icon-theme_0.9.bb): hicolor-icon-theme: set package arch to all May 16 11:27:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re2140d26... 10/ (1 classes/gtk-icon-cache.bbclass): gtk-icon-cache.bbclass: postinst scripts need hicolor-icon-theme (bunch of directories + 1 small textfile), so add it to RDEPENDS May 16 11:42:54 If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby May 16 11:42:55 Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free. May 16 11:43:00 nice quote for today ;D May 16 11:45:03 hrw: ah so linux requires licencing terms from a single company ... that's a shame May 16 11:46:12 koen: http://www.bughost.org/pipermail/power/2007-May/000063.html May 16 11:57:21 hrw: now do you have nice and concise link for c-states on x86's? May 16 11:57:38 ~pastebin May 16 11:57:48 rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well May 16 11:57:53 AsLan^: ^^^^ May 16 12:00:46 psokolovsky_: no. it probably can be found in pentium-M reference manual May 16 12:28:08 hmmm May 16 12:28:13 gcc 4.2.0 has been released May 16 12:30:11 can we wait for 4.2.1? May 16 12:30:16 :) May 16 12:30:26 that's probably a sane option May 16 12:30:37 release notes? May 16 12:30:40 they overhauled the buildsystem as well May 16 12:30:50 http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.2/changes.html May 16 12:30:58 the bottom part is interesting May 16 12:35:23 no arm improvements? May 16 12:35:35 there probably are May 16 12:35:50 they didn't even mention EABI when they added it to gcc May 16 12:36:10 might be worth adding bb files in case there are build system bugs that need reporting May 16 12:42:18 hi all ! May 16 12:42:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r62820905... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_0.9.29.bb): uclibc: bump PR for zecke's change to the config May 16 12:42:30 is oe site down ? May 16 12:42:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r390f4dbb... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc-0.9.29/ep93xx/uClibc.machine): uclibc: enable c99 math for ep93xx May 16 12:43:03 seeing that cia is relaying commits, that's a 'no' May 16 12:43:15 trying to buil an image i got this result message "ERROR: No providers of build target angstrom-minimal-image (for [])" ... distro is angtrom and target is quemux86 ... someone can give me some hints ? May 16 12:43:58 ohh wow uclibc ... i have to try on my ipaq !!! (i have to CREATE more time) ... May 16 12:53:44 Hi gremlin[it]! May 16 12:53:59 ant news on usb gadgets for h3600? May 16 12:54:02 any May 16 12:55:14 hi psokolovsky_ no no news ... i really did nothing ... blame on me... May 16 12:55:43 gremlin[it]: well, np, I know how it can be ;-) May 16 12:56:23 ehheh ... but i notice you are doing a really good work keeping kernel aligned !!! May 16 12:57:42 gremlin[it]: yep, we're in good shape, and will improve more ;-) May 16 13:00:09 someone played with two usbnet devices on one time? May 16 13:09:56 hrw: I have long ago May 16 13:18:12 XorA: bv3 and bv4 are connected in same time here May 16 13:19:15 hrw: Ive had 3 zauruses at once if I remeber May 16 13:45:50 crofton : Do you by any chance have any vhdl code or paper with vhdl code on AEC and LEC May 16 13:45:59 no May 16 13:46:03 AEC? May 16 13:46:13 Acoustic Echo Cabcellation May 16 13:46:17 sorry no May 16 13:46:33 I doubt there is anything for that on opencores either ... May 16 13:46:41 nop i checked May 16 13:46:50 :) May 16 13:48:10 i only found a paper one an implementation of a FIIR filter for AEC, most stuff seems to be for dsp's not fpga's May 16 13:49:45 that sounds like a good app for fpgas May 16 13:50:05 although audio rates are slow enough that people may not do it with an fpga May 16 13:50:36 depends on how many channels you want to perform echo cancellation on.... May 16 13:50:43 :) May 16 13:51:11 I wish the roads on Italy would dry out May 16 13:51:36 ? May 16 13:52:02 * Crofton is watching the bicycle race in Italy courtesy of the internet ... May 16 13:52:42 it's very hot here the last few days.... i am with air con for 3-4 days now.... May 16 14:18:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9303c6f3... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): evince, pimlico: bump PR for latest icon-cache change May 16 14:23:20 hi, all! May 16 14:23:25 hrw, ping May 16 14:45:56 hi, i fave finally build a ext2 image for a machine, now i would like run with qemu, there is a tutorial on how to convert ext2 image to quemu image ??? thanks ! May 16 14:52:20 gremlin[it]: poky contain scripts which make it easy May 16 14:52:52 ahh ok ... thanks hrw ! May 16 14:57:36 ~lart via michelin May 16 14:57:36 * ibot hits via michelin with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha May 16 14:57:44 morning May 16 15:28:32 re mickeyl May 16 15:28:56 yo May 16 15:31:55 hi mickeyl May 16 15:32:01 hey mickeyl May 16 15:34:37 hi mickeyl May 16 15:35:44 hi guy May 16 15:35:44 s May 16 15:55:11 mickeyl: hey! finished moving now? :) May 16 16:00:26 robtaylor: i wish... it's going forward though. office moves on weekend and then i'm back May 16 16:00:52 will probably take us 4 more weeks until everything else is in place though... ordering a new kitchen takes ages May 16 16:01:10 mickeyl: don't get hurt again :) May 16 16:01:39 hvontres|poodle: thanks. I'm very careful by now. May 16 16:02:00 good thing is the ache is gone though May 16 16:02:11 although i'm not 100% convinced that everything is ok May 16 16:04:59 mickeyl: so you convinced sean the neo is too heavy ;) May 16 16:05:00 poor boy May 16 16:05:13 koen: hahaha May 16 16:05:19 koen: indeed. May 16 16:05:27 something more light is one the way May 16 16:05:35 and something more heavy May 16 16:05:37 :D May 16 16:05:43 is the hxd8 a pda? May 16 16:05:46 no May 16 16:05:56 OT: anyone with with LDAP experience here? May 16 16:06:18 zecke: the uni ldap doesn't like my account, that's all I know May 16 16:06:26 mickeyl: can you say what it is? May 16 16:06:33 koen: unfortunately not :/ May 16 16:06:36 ~lart NDAs May 16 16:06:36 * ibot judo chops NDAs May 16 16:07:10 zecke: I used to have some ... but it's been a long time May 16 16:08:03 chouimat: did you have more than one machine? May 16 16:08:15 zecke: about 30 May 16 16:08:43 chouimat: I want the same people to have different rights on different machines May 16 16:08:57 zecke: preparing OE infrastructure? May 16 16:09:08 koen: yes, doing a test drive here May 16 16:09:12 zecke: was a pain to setup ... I had to modify some part of freebsd 5.0-CURRENT (prealpha) to add nsswitch support to it May 16 16:09:13 cool May 16 16:09:41 chouimat: well nsswitch works on on dapper drake. I just wonder how to implement different rights May 16 16:09:45 (not that it is needed now) May 16 16:10:32 zecke: i think it's doable but I can't see how to do it right now ... May 16 16:27:49 Hi all, does anyone know why the standard of base-files is /home/root insteadof /root ?? May 16 16:48:06 vivijim: many machines has two flash partitions: / and /home May 16 16:48:20 vivijim: so we use /home/root to keep it safe during updates May 16 17:43:06 hrw: this is a good reason ;) I was just thinking change to /root to keep the compatibility to other linux systems... to chroot without change the environment variables... May 16 17:44:35 vivijim: add a symlink ? May 16 17:45:37 hvontres|poodle: good idea... I'll do that, thanks May 16 17:56:58 gm May 16 18:04:02 hey likewise May 16 18:04:10 hey koen May 16 18:04:43 how long before end of uni term? May 16 18:05:49 I have no idea, since I'm the courses I'm doing are assignment based May 16 18:08:57 koen: so it really depends on when assignments are finished? May 16 18:09:20 yes May 16 18:09:29 and when I finish this *#@(*$()#&$* thesis May 16 18:11:54 koen: My IRC client does not support 'Uni'code :-) May 16 18:12:31 :) May 16 18:28:57 hi psokolovsky May 16 18:29:20 hi May 16 18:34:27 likewise: did you get upstart working? May 16 18:36:03 VoodooZ: other than compiling, no. My todo list is too long, and sometimes I take a pick at one of the items randomly, like with upstart. May 16 18:36:22 VoodooZ: (in the silent hopes that someone else will spend some time on it) May 16 18:36:54 VoodooZ: I'm trying to bring in a new kernel for efika first May 16 18:40:30 likewise: cool. I'm hoping it does speed up the linux boot. May 16 18:40:53 I'll have to try it on a PC first... May 16 18:41:31 VoodooZ: It probably will, but the startup scripts are not included in the upstart package itself. They or distro dependent. However ,the upstart project provides a set for each distro. We will probably stick with Debian or Ubuntu scripts. May 16 18:41:37 s/or/are May 16 18:50:15 someone remember how to install grub on device which is unknown to bios? (usb-storage here) May 16 18:55:18 hrw: using --root? May 16 18:56:47 right May 16 18:57:37 hrw: just guessing May 16 18:58:14 I would like to clone one GIT tree, then fetch another one on top. Can we do this from the SRC_URI? May 16 18:58:54 likewise: failed ;( "/dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive" May 16 18:59:13 hrw: write a map file, then use --root? May 16 18:59:46 hrw: leon@witty:~/sandbox/openembedded$ cat /boot/grub/device.map May 16 18:59:48 (hd0) /dev/sda May 16 19:01:38 hrw: or use the --recheck option? May 16 19:02:16 stored May 16 19:02:17 thx May 16 19:02:31 next step will be booting from usb hdd May 16 19:02:32 hrw: what was the working solution? May 16 19:02:44 * gerwinin is thinking to make a those who it may concern license :) May 16 19:02:54 editinig of device map and grub-install --root-directory=. /dev/sda May 16 19:03:03 gerwinin: hey there! :-) May 16 19:03:08 gerwinin: hi May 16 19:03:22 gerwinin: got root^W server? May 16 19:03:41 next thing... May 16 19:03:54 how to disable blinking cursor on VT? May 16 19:05:03 likewise ? May 16 19:05:34 Likewise : how are you by the way ? May 16 19:05:45 bye May 16 19:05:58 hrw: I am gonna order a new package at ewayco May 16 19:06:07 hrw: need to order for you as well ? May 16 19:06:12 gerwinin: I'm fine and busy. May 16 19:06:40 gerwinin: You once mentioned having a Supermicro server which you might donate to kOEn? May 16 19:07:02 Likewise: same here a lot of repair my application which was made by an indian I don't know work May 16 19:07:12 Likewise: yes May 16 19:07:56 Likewise : if I keep on having it as busy as I have now I consider hiring a rack myself and put a built server in for oe May 16 19:08:10 gerwinin: koen might be interested in the server as the current one might go dead (scsi disk problems) May 16 19:09:04 Likewise: the one I have is not so good (I believe it has raid and not scsi) but if I have enough work I have enough money to buy a rack and put some decent server in May 16 19:17:13 wb koen May 16 19:18:11 hey May 16 19:38:31 gcc-cross-sdk builds, but surprise, surprise it fails on QA since the arch doesn't match May 16 19:41:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1e1d4431... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross-sdk_4.1.2.bb): gcc-cross-sdk 4.1.2: remove obsolete patch May 16 19:42:37 Is this something I can do with SRC_URI alone, or does this need a plain call to native git? http://rafb.net/p/YKlHqX29.html May 16 19:44:20 pursuing the do_fetch approach May 16 20:05:00 hi lrg May 16 20:06:28 hey likewise May 16 20:13:08 wb^2 koen May 16 20:13:22 hey likewise May 16 20:59:12 gerwinin: ping? May 16 20:59:15 re May 16 21:00:21 gerwinin: speaking about ewayco.. I bought nslu2 instead of their devices as it was cheaper (and faster to get here). May 16 21:01:47 gerwinin: their machines are interesting and quite powerfull but I do not plan to buy one now May 16 21:02:19 bye May 16 22:34:03 hi May 16 22:35:57 * CoreDump|home notices that his shiny new 2G Lexar SD card is unusable due to i/o errors on the Zaurus, but appears to work just fine on his notebook May 16 22:36:26 CoreDump|home: high speed card? May 16 22:36:38 yeah May 16 22:36:43 Lexar 60x May 16 22:36:55 yeah high speed ones dont work May 16 22:37:00 darn May 16 22:37:12 linux sd sucks and doesnt work to standard May 16 22:37:28 really? how come? May 16 22:37:58 CoreDump|home: low quality code i beleive May 16 22:38:03 ( the card works fine on my notebook) May 16 22:38:36 CoreDump|home: yeah but ill bet the card reader does the protocol handling May 16 22:38:46 hmmmmm May 16 22:38:58 It's an USB thingy, no idea May 16 22:39:27 * CoreDump|home tries hooking up the cardreader to the spitz May 16 22:39:47 CoreDump|home: then yes linux has nothing to do with sd PROTOCOL May 16 22:40:09 crappy caps lock on phone May 16 22:40:31 =) May 16 22:58:25 ping Ifastios May 16 22:58:48 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * rf8bb7ddf... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): altboot: Add SVNR48, completing Flash, HDD and CF booting on spitz. May 16 23:12:13 Zuse : did you try to ping me ? May 16 23:13:05 Ifaistos: Yes I did ... May 16 23:15:00 Zuse: shoot... May 16 23:15:32 Ifaistos: hvontres told me that you have some knowledge about compiling with OE with the help of a Linux cluster May 16 23:15:54 Zuse: yes May 16 23:16:11 Ifaistos: Just playing around with OpenMosix, Distcc und Ccache and Icecream for another project and thought I can speed up compiling a bit May 16 23:16:46 Ifaistos: Just didn't found the best combination yet May 16 23:17:14 Zuse: Do you need to crosscompile ? May 16 23:17:27 USB on spitz has some serious issues... May 16 23:17:52 Ifaistos: Yes compiling for zaurus May 16 23:18:27 Zuse: Distcc can be a big pain for cross-compilling May 16 23:19:40 Ifaistos: The idea behind: At work i have about 25 computers most of them run just a few hours peer week. I thought I can find a better way to use this "free" time. May 16 23:20:25 Zuse: OpenMosix, i *think* is not suitable from parallel compiling May 16 23:20:56 icecream would be much better in such a situation, because it has better control May 16 23:21:11 and you can cross-compile easily May 16 23:22:46 Ifaistos: For sure there is one prob. All other computers run Windows-OS. I cannot change or install anything in parallel without getting punished by my Windows-loving colleauges. Therefore, I thought I like to use a boot-CD or USB-Stick May 16 23:23:19 Ifaistos: You are aware of any boot-cd including icecream ? May 16 23:24:06 hmmmm nothing comes in mind. but if there is alive cd with Suse its possible it will be included May 16 23:24:51 Ifaistos: maybe I try to remaster a knoppix. Don't like Suse for recent reasons ;) May 16 23:24:56 but note that you will need some place for icecc to store the cross-compiler and enviroment and flash is not a good idea May 16 23:26:16 its a few megs per compiler but it can grow as OE uses 4 or 5 different compilers depending on the stage you are in May 16 23:27:15 OE has an icecc package, maybe you could make an image and build icecc in it May 16 23:27:41 Ifaistos: make the speed increase for compiling all this work worth ? May 16 23:27:52 and use /tmp for storing the compilers and enviroment May 16 23:28:36 well it does provided the machine that distributes the work is powerfull enought to handle the pre-processing and linking May 16 23:29:58 Ifaistos: O.K., do i understand correctly, that icecream does not store anything on the harddisk of the client, during work? May 16 23:30:26 nop it stores May 16 23:30:47 the cross-compiller May 16 23:31:33 but it can be in any place you want. (a tmpfs mounted partition for example if you have enough ram) May 16 23:31:35 Ifaistos: Hmmmm... that means i need a partion on any client ? Thats difficult. Thought icecream uses just RAM. May 16 23:32:02 Ifaistos: Yes a RAM disk o.K. May 16 23:33:16 i am doing builds with icecc as we speak :) -> http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showbuilds.pl?tree=oplinux May 16 23:33:47 trying to setup a nigthly auto-build system May 16 23:37:54 it's time to get some sleep.... May 16 23:38:08 night everyone May 16 23:38:11 Ifaistos: Looks nice. Do you think there is a general interest to create a customized (e.g. knoppix based) client for OE-based work. Something like a "instant-on-the-fly" icecream client with cross-compiler and OE ? May 16 23:38:35 Ifaistos: Sorry overlapped good night May 16 23:38:40 n.p May 16 23:39:18 i think there is interest. the more you make these things happen "automagically" the more people use them May 16 23:39:58 Ifaistos: o.k. another mark on my list "Have to do if i find time" ;) May 16 23:40:22 hehe... welcome to the club :) May 17 00:28:59 !ombug 531 May 17 00:29:00 * * Bug 531, Status: RESOLVED (INVALID), Created: Unknown May 17 00:29:01 * * rodolphe.ortalo(AT)free.fr: make and configure modifications for make distcheck May 17 00:29:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=531 May 17 01:34:58 * v8jlene is back May 17 02:25:51 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rd468f920... 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): May 17 02:25:51 site: Update the site files to handle glibc having sys_siglist while uclibc May 17 02:25:51 doesn't. It was only enabled for arm and ixp4xx in older version of uclibc May 17 02:25:51 but not for anything else. Uclibc says it'll go away in uclibc soon and so May 17 02:25:51 shouldn't be used. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 17 02:59:57 2007