**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 23 02:59:57 2007 May 23 05:28:04 * * OE Bug 2013 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by pmiscml@gmail.com May 23 05:28:06 * * [Bug 2013] bitbake gpe-image fails on gtk-engines May 23 05:28:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2013 May 23 06:02:50 good morning all May 23 06:02:55 * koen looks at http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-April/024286.html May 23 06:12:42 Crofton: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/distros-indeed May 23 06:12:55 morning koen May 23 06:13:05 hey pvanhoof :) May 23 06:13:18 Overstressed, couldn't get sleep May 23 06:13:27 because I decided to resign today May 23 06:13:34 From Cronos, my fulltime employer May 23 06:13:35 :) May 23 06:13:55 so highlighting my xchat is extremely dangerous :) May 23 06:19:19 morning all May 23 06:23:58 hey steliosk May 23 06:33:56 koen : The new rep script worked fine May 23 06:34:06 steliosk: cool May 23 06:34:17 koen : http://rafb.net/p/tzNxRc71.html May 23 06:35:19 koen : i copied a single file to some of the architectures and processed just them, running the php update just once at the end May 23 06:39:58 koen :here is the script you put in unsorted -> http://rafb.net/p/cq2G8D76.html i called it update-rep.sh May 23 06:41:09 koen : and this is the script you need to put in every arch dir -> http://rafb.net/p/4mMy0441.html May 23 06:41:44 koen : i named it new-index.sh so basically you can have the old scripts in place also...just in case something goes wrong May 23 06:42:47 koen : in both scripts you set the path to the ipkg tools and php update script in varialbles at the top, so it can be easily moved around May 23 06:44:02 koen : also in the new-index scripts you don't need to specify the machines for each arch, it cd's to the machine dir and then goes to every dir in there May 23 06:45:16 next stem is to merge them in one script and read architecture,machines etc from a config file and not have it hard-coded May 23 06:45:45 indeed May 23 06:48:03 * * OE Bug 2364 has been created by joaquinduran@adtelecom.es May 23 06:48:05 * * Path hardcoded in gtk-engines .bb file May 23 06:48:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2364 May 23 06:49:05 koen : btw have you used the new ipkg tools on the rep ? May 23 06:50:00 steliosk: yes May 23 06:51:19 koen : do they have the speed difference mentioned ? May 23 06:51:52 they have a speed difference, but not the one mentioned May 23 07:41:51 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mobile-devel-list/2007-May/msg00026.html :( May 23 07:47:53 Is it the pixbuf that's the problem then? Anyway to strace it or get some statistics some other way? May 23 07:49:23 morning May 23 07:51:48 hey XorA|gone May 23 07:52:34 CM: dunno, all I can say is that I applied the patch and it didn't seem to make a difference May 23 07:52:40 * koen is hoping for PEBKAC May 23 07:52:58 Hehe May 23 07:54:56 * XorA|gone cant change nick May 23 07:55:07 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh May 23 07:57:02 I shall have to find a working irc proxy May 23 08:00:49 hi to all May 23 08:00:52 i have a problem with linux on arm, May 23 08:01:10 i post a bug report: May 23 08:01:12 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425527 May 23 08:01:14 cidus: this is OE channel, not arm-linux May 23 08:01:37 cidus: #debian is where you should go then May 23 08:01:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re096dd41... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/composite-pixbuf_0.0.bb): composite-pixbug: add test app for pixbug performance May 23 08:02:32 excused I have mistaken May 23 08:02:57 cidus: but you can always ditch that debian junk and use OE :-) May 23 08:05:27 in effects I was thinking to make a test May 23 08:06:52 heh: http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=235763&cid=19231061 May 23 08:06:57 dirty secret is debian use us to bootstrap armeb/armel :-D May 23 08:08:01 koen: that still the BSD GPL violation rumbling around May 23 08:08:09 koen: buncha BSD pirates May 23 08:28:17 goOod Morning May 23 08:32:17 does any distro use gpe-image any more? May 23 08:37:03 * * OE Bug 2344 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise@gmx.net May 23 08:37:05 * * [Bug 2344] hdparm does not build using uclibc May 23 08:37:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2344 May 23 08:41:46 hey likewise May 23 08:42:23 Zero_Chaos: what machine configuration do you use? I use ixp4xxbe, I guess the uClibc.machine is out of date May 23 08:44:10 morning all May 23 08:53:03 * * OE Bug 2178 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by dp@xora.org.uk May 23 08:53:05 * * [Bug 2178] kismet fails compilation when it finds May 23 08:53:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2178 May 23 08:54:59 hi koen May 23 08:57:16 Zero_Chaos: kismet change done May 23 08:59:51 03xora 07org.oe.dev * re9005b8c... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): packages/kismet/* : remove old versions May 23 09:00:03 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rb08d9d4a... 10/ (1 packages/kismet/kismet_2007-01-R1b.bb): May 23 09:00:03 kismet_2007-01-R1b.bb : disable gpsmap as per bug #2178 and discussion with May 23 09:00:03 Zero_Chaos May 23 09:12:04 ~lart git May 23 09:12:04 * ibot stamps git on the forehead with the official Troll marker May 23 09:35:37 hi all May 23 09:36:20 hi have a problem building xfce-image on angstrom, seem to be the 404, it should be resolved ... May 23 09:36:51 but i notice it was for openzaurus .. but now happen to me on angstrom May 23 09:37:22 did i reopen the bug and change the OS version or clone the bug ? May 23 09:38:35 hi florian May 23 09:38:49 godd morning May 23 09:39:00 good rather... May 23 09:39:04 EXTRA_OECONF_uclibc = "bla" does not work for me, but EXTRA_OECONF = "bla" does. ? May 23 09:42:02 likewise: _linux-uclibc and _linux-uclibcgnueabi May 23 09:42:56 aka TARGET_OS May 23 09:43:30 koen, what is better reopen the bug or clone ? May 23 09:44:13 reopen May 23 09:44:48 koen: so TARGET_OS is one of the overrides? How can I find out about the others? May 23 09:45:20 ok and i change the OS version from openzaurus to angtrom ? May 23 09:46:50 likewise: bitbake.conf:OVERRIDES = "local:${MACHINE}:${DISTRO}:${TARGET_OS}:${TARGET_ARCH}:build-${BUILD_OS}:fail-fast:pn-${PN}" May 23 09:47:07 morning all May 23 09:47:11 gm rp May 23 09:47:13 hey RP May 23 09:55:29 Anyone seen these on powerpc/uclibc: can't handle reloc type 0x49 in lib '/lib/libc.so.6' ? May 23 09:57:00 hey RP May 23 09:57:05 sounds like http://bugs.busybox.net/view.php?id=986 May 23 09:59:14 likewise : which version of uclibc ? May 23 09:59:22 0.9.29 May 23 09:59:31 net split? May 23 10:03:52 * koen heads out for lunch May 23 10:03:55 later all May 23 10:04:32 smakelijk May 23 10:05:51 damn you people who get lunch early May 23 10:06:21 XorA: yeah, that's why I work from home today :-) May 23 10:06:31 XorA: so I can lunch all day May 23 10:06:39 * XorA kills likewise May 23 10:07:04 It isn't even breakfast time here May 23 10:10:27 hmm May 23 10:10:43 I need to depend on boost-filesystem May 23 10:10:58 do I put boost or boost-filesystem in DEPENDS? May 23 10:11:26 Crofton|home: the .bb name May 23 10:12:45 thanks May 23 10:20:50 getting on error about not finding libxcb? May 23 10:22:35 nevermind May 23 10:24:05 * XorA thinks the topic should be lets get a developer room next year May 23 10:27:42 that would be a bunch of work May 23 10:30:42 * likewise thinks let gets funding for oe. May 23 10:39:02 likewise: funding to post XorA to interesting conferences :-) May 23 10:39:25 um funding May 23 10:39:59 funding for my guinness intake May 23 10:40:23 hmm, OE confernce in dublin :-) May 23 10:40:29 :-) May 23 10:40:44 we turned in a proposal to the NSF to see if they would fund a beer drinking trip to Oreland May 23 10:40:51 er Ireland May 23 10:41:05 Oireland is how they pronouince it :-) May 23 10:41:18 they talk funny over there May 23 10:41:41 * XorA has a friend that cant say power shower, he says par shar May 23 10:41:49 lol May 23 10:42:10 the polish need to lend them some constonants :-) May 23 10:45:06 got a discount price of $245 for these boards: http://www.micetek.com/englishweb/product/new/PQIIproDevelopmentProducts/8313E-RDB.htm May 23 10:47:03 $$$$ - $245 is still $$$$ ? May 23 10:48:37 Package fuse-module wants to install file /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules May 23 10:48:46 * CM read it as $245 per board after the discount May 23 10:48:50 I suspect that fuse-module shouldnt call its version that May 23 10:51:54 koen: yes $245 per board after discount May 23 10:51:58 ah May 23 10:52:03 that sounds a lot better :) May 23 10:52:43 hrm... who broke xserver-xorg? May 23 10:53:13 florian: florian did i think May 23 10:53:26 he breaks everything May 23 10:53:31 hehe May 23 10:53:37 i didn't touch it ;) May 23 10:53:42 prove it May 23 10:54:21 * florian is testing the new distributed compile environment May 23 10:54:27 florian: ice? May 23 10:54:34 florian: cream? May 23 10:55:16 i wonder if openmosix would work May 23 10:55:42 likewise: Yes - i set up a new build host and have the icecc running on all useful machines at kc. May 23 10:56:03 ade|desk: might be an interesting experiment May 23 10:57:11 florian: nice. I stopped trying that here because everyone is running their own distro and the icecc version must very closely match in order for it to work May 23 10:57:45 likewise: yes indeed, that was the only problem here too. May 23 10:58:43 All the machines here are not the fastest one could imagine, but now there are three machines with five real cpus with gigabit connections at least. May 23 10:59:06 And three more with slower links... May 23 10:59:37 florian: I'll try to pick up the project at work as well. May 23 11:00:27 likewise: its interesting to watch how the tasks are scheduled... May 23 11:01:24 florian: watch with the visual monitor? May 23 11:01:48 likewise: yes May 23 11:01:59 that icemon thingy May 23 11:02:08 florian: did you need any tweaking or is the wiki page on thise still up-to-date? May 23 11:03:45 likewise: worked out of the box... May 23 11:05:16 florian: openmosix and compile farms are a no go, are compiles are way too small to be farmed out. openmosix farms out processes so each .c would be pushed and pulled back for the next node rather than push a job series out. damn :( May 23 11:06:03 ade|desk: oh, ok... May 23 11:11:50 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rb81d6701... 10/ (1 packages/alsa/alsa-utils_1.0.13.bb): alsa-utils-1.0.13: Disable NLS for uclibc, workaround, needs more TLC. May 23 11:11:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r84d1a27d... 10/ (1 packages/gdb/gdb_6.6.bb): gdb: fix RRECOMMENDS May 23 11:20:22 cannot build powerpc/uclibc from scratch anymore, uclibc-initial-0.9.28 fails on the kernel headers. May 23 11:20:34 w/ angstrom that is May 23 11:23:22 copying initial-0.9.28 to initial-0.9.29 seems to work. Using 2.6.20 headers, probably too new for 0.9.28... May 23 11:42:02 * * OE Bug 2360 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl May 23 11:42:04 * * [Bug 2360] more granularity for xserver-xorg package May 23 11:42:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2360 May 23 11:47:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8af6eae5... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xorg-xserver-common.inc): xorg-xserver-common.inc: granulate packaging some more, closes #2360 May 23 11:47:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcc0f5070... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg_1.2.0.bb): xserver-xorg 1.2.0: remove broken patch May 23 11:47:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb2bb7f54... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): May 23 11:47:53 xserver-kdrive: merge 1.3.0.0 from poky May 23 11:47:53 * Xw100 patch needs to be rediffed May 23 11:57:02 does anybody know in which package is "date" program (NOT the one provided by busybox)? May 23 11:57:34 bgeradz: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=date&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 May 23 12:01:49 thanx May 23 12:03:29 likewise : yes 0.9.28 works with kernel keaders < 2.6 18 May 23 12:04:18 steliosk: Copying initial-0.9.28 to ...29 works for me, so I will push that I guess. May 23 12:04:45 florian : I will be pushing some more changes to the icecc bbclass, fixing a couple of things in the new few days May 23 12:05:51 steliosk: that sounds promising! what are you going to fix? May 23 12:10:12 florian :well qemu support added May 23 12:10:41 florian :and a couple of fixes regarding PARALLEL_MAKE May 23 12:10:48 * XorA looks for a fix-xoras-build-machine.bbclass May 23 12:11:46 steliosk: okay cool May 23 12:11:58 XorA: heh May 23 12:12:03 * koen tried to pluck some low-hanging fruit from the xorg recipes May 23 12:12:27 florian : they way it is now if a package is exlcuded from using icecc and has to build locally, the host gets PARALLEL_MAKE set according to what its set for icecc and usually takes longer to build the package May 23 12:14:54 steliosk: right, the best would be to have a fallback value you can define here... and maybe defaulting to the amount of cpus in the system May 23 12:19:56 morning May 23 12:20:43 yo hrw May 23 12:20:59 hey hrw May 23 12:22:07 morning hrw May 23 12:22:13 something interesting happens? May 23 12:22:30 we sold OE to microsft May 23 12:22:32 hrw: yes, by now everybody should have had breakfast :-) May 23 12:22:48 * koen consults his OE timezone chart May 23 12:22:58 XorA: I thought that was only a rumor? May 23 12:22:58 no, florian is having breakfast in half an hour May 23 12:23:17 koen: no florian stayed up all night making icecc work. May 23 12:23:55 ah, hmm May 23 12:24:07 is think I know what drmfix was supposed to do: May 23 12:24:08 CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include/drm May 23 12:24:40 I have defined a dependency for docbook-utils-native in a new recipe I created (http://paste.stgraber.org/1079) but when I do "bitbake scim" the darn thing goes straight to compiling scim and thus fails in configure. Why does it not build docbook-utils-native first? May 23 12:26:06 hehe May 23 12:26:53 composite benchmark available for most arm dialects: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=composite-pixbuf May 23 12:51:24 huhu May 23 13:00:14 yay, my wife has got a new job, with a good size pay cut, what a bargain ! May 23 13:01:18 ade|desk: I hope you get an equal pay rise then May 23 13:01:44 unlikely May 23 13:02:14 looking forward to seeing if we get cost of living increase this year May 23 13:02:54 not looking hopeful despite increasing profits by 22 % May 23 13:03:15 the question is "which" cost of living... the goverments one which is usally like 0 or the real one.... May 23 13:03:35 i imagine the directors will enjoy their bonuses May 23 13:04:05 I hate directors, they do jack shit and steal all the money May 23 13:04:12 mallum excepted :-D May 23 13:10:09 hi Jin^eLD , AvengerMoJo May 23 13:23:57 hey mickeyl May 23 13:24:04 hi mickeyl May 23 13:24:20 hi mickeyl , done with all the moving? May 23 13:25:59 ~seen zecke May 23 13:26:21 zecke is currently on #handhelds-opie (3h 23m 52s) #handhelds (3h 23m 52s) #oe (3h 23m 52s) #openmoko (3h 23m 52s), last said: 'france: I'm guessing who knows the admin password. With some luck treke (gilbert) might know it'. May 23 13:26:39 hi Crofton May 23 13:26:42 yes, pretty much May 23 13:26:51 some outstanding problems with telephony and cable tv though May 23 13:26:59 but these are minor May 23 13:27:12 hi koen, hrw May 23 13:28:37 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r3dca5f3a... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): uclibc: Add uclibc-initial-0.9.29 so that toolchain bootstrap from recent kernel headers works. May 23 13:28:42 zecke : any idea why tinderbox seems to be slow ? it looks like its slows down compile time significantly and it did not used to be like that... May 23 13:28:42 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a2d941b... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xserver-xorg: update mesa dep to 6.5.2 May 23 13:28:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1540ceee... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xorg-xserver-common.inc): xorg-xserver-common: substitute drmfix.patch with a more robust sed statement May 23 13:28:54 mickeyl, but you have internet? May 23 13:29:44 is anyone using the tinderbox ? May 23 13:33:27 koen: I was thinking maybe we should add a do_patch_sed() tasks that is part of do_patch stage, that would be usefull for people who want to produce debian style .diff files May 23 13:34:32 steliosk: is the network having issues? May 23 13:34:43 steliosk: the openmoko build is using it May 23 13:35:28 zecke : i don't think its a problem with the network from my side... traffic is very low May 23 13:36:46 steliosk: it is doing blocking IO to reach the server. So ewi might have performance issues :) May 23 13:36:48 zecke : poky is using it also... maybe there are 2 many jobs/data and the network on the server side is near capacity ? May 23 13:37:21 steliosk: I don't think so :} I have no idea what is slowing it down May 23 13:37:36 zecke : my build times wend up like 30-40% May 23 13:37:43 steliosk: you could print the time needed to send the log to the machine May 23 13:38:00 steliosk: please add some timing prints to tinderbox.bbclass, as the class itself was unchanged May 23 13:38:51 zecke : my build screen is not rolling as fast as it used to be... that's enough of a timing measure :) May 23 13:39:40 steliosk: I would like to know the time needed to connect ewi and wait for the answer ;) May 23 13:40:23 zecke :ok will run some tests and let you know May 23 13:41:47 thanks May 23 13:45:28 Crofton: i have internet, but it's connected to a wrong socket (1st floor instead of 0th floor) requiring me to use a wireless bridge w/ lots of dropouts and stuff :/ May 23 13:45:39 * mickeyl pestering them to reconnect May 23 13:45:49 which is quite an undertaking May 23 13:45:54 because i'm not a T-Com customer May 23 13:46:00 and they keep bouncing me forth- and backwards May 23 13:46:04 i feel like a ping pong ball May 23 13:46:05 sigh May 23 13:46:57 mickeyl: time for recorded letters to their director of customer services? May 23 13:47:39 hehe May 23 13:47:41 might be an option May 23 13:47:56 can BBFILE_COLLECTIONS still be used to set priorities for upstream and local package areas? May 23 13:48:10 you know, if they don't manage to reconnect me I just go back to T-Com. Pricewise it's not that much of a difference nowadays May 23 13:48:13 xuumbi, I think so May 23 13:48:14 I see it in the bitbake manual, but it was removed from the OE wiki May 23 13:48:14 like 10 EUR more per month May 23 13:48:26 Crofton: oh good, I'm going to test it anyway... May 23 13:52:40 xuumbi: it works, but be very careful to set your PREFERRED_PROVIDERS and versions neatly. May 23 13:53:35 likewise: so a higher version/release number in a collection with a lower priority will get precedence? May 23 13:54:00 mickeyl: Ive found that recorded letters work well as people at that level have no time for silly excuses when the solution it literally to switch 2 patches and 30secs of engineers work May 23 13:54:37 likewise: wait, I think I'm confusing PREFERRED_PROVIDERS with PREFERRED_VERSION May 23 13:54:46 mickeyl: Ive also had success with the line on the phone "Hi, I think you should get a manager for me as Im going to shout and Im sure your not paid enough to put up with customers shouting at you!" May 23 13:55:05 xuumbi: I am not sure what happens if a higher version/release number in a collection with a lower priority exists. May 23 13:55:24 xuumbi: I *think* the lower priority collection always has precedence. May 23 13:55:35 xuumbi: but you should check that May 23 13:55:59 likewise: I just tried a package with a lower release number in my local collection and it picked it up May 23 13:56:20 xuumbi: without specifying the release/version number? May 23 13:56:29 likewise: yes May 23 13:56:31 xuumbi: yup, ok, that's what I think it does and should do. May 23 14:04:35 NOTE: package xserver-xorg-1.3.0.0: completed May 23 14:04:43 NOTE: package xserver-xorg-1.2.0: completed May 23 14:04:46 woooo! May 23 14:04:49 * koen hugs sed May 23 14:13:21 morning May 23 14:14:37 http://pastebin.ca/505258 May 23 14:14:45 ANyone have any thoughts? May 23 14:15:22 Crofton: "cold wheat beer" May 23 14:15:35 a bit early for beer here .... May 23 14:15:51 apart from that: s:-m755:-m 755: May 23 14:16:09 oe's install-native doesn't like the concatenated option May 23 14:16:13 ah May 23 14:16:20 I was checking on host May 23 14:16:33 the problem "went away" for a bit also May 23 14:17:27 I'll push if bitbake -c rebuild u-boot builds May 23 14:20:38 Is Russ Nelson so clueless or has france stolen his workstation? May 23 14:20:57 florian: it seems you were the maintainer of Familiar ;) May 23 14:22:44 XorA: hehe, good advice. i will take that into account May 23 14:25:39 koen: no, he is like that... incredibly May 23 14:26:34 * chouimat sit downs with a coffee mug and watch the hh.o soap opera May 23 14:26:50 chouimat: where this time? May 23 14:27:05 hrw: everywhere May 23 14:27:55 hrw: http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/ http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2007/05/23/time-for-the-gpe-team-to-seek-legal-counsel May 23 14:31:52 let me know if you need anything doing on this side of the Atlantic May 23 14:32:06 I can ask my sister for some free advice May 23 14:32:57 your sister is a hitwoman? May 23 14:33:08 sort off May 23 14:33:37 http://www.hunton.com/bios/bio.aspx?id=17235&tab=0013 May 23 14:40:06 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rb42b01db... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): vsftpd: Fix dependencies. Fix uclibc support. May 23 14:40:17 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r0c3c5a0c... 10/ (1 packages/libcap/libcap_1.10.bb): libcap: Fix uclibc support. May 23 14:40:23 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r3ff3791f... 10/ (1 packages/uboot/u-boot.inc): May 23 14:40:23 u-boot.inc : Correct args to install to work with OE install-native. May 23 14:40:23 Insert space between -m and 755. May 23 14:41:59 hrw: MACHINE=progear is nice way to find kernels without COMPATIBLE_MACHINE ;) May 23 14:42:22 I thought even in somewhere as insane as the US you couldnt hold a trademark in a product you dont sell, hence why Cisco lost iPhone trademark May 23 14:43:10 XorA: iirc someone has to challenge it first May 23 14:43:40 koen: or handhelds has to sue when you use it, if they dont, they lose it anyway, and do they actually have any cash? May 23 14:43:50 they have May 23 14:43:57 XorA: and you need some money to be able to do this May 23 14:43:59 Google Summer of code, remember May 23 14:44:49 florian: maybe we should make a reference to being fired as president of FSF ;) May 23 14:45:52 koen: ;) May 23 14:46:25 koen: I do not want to add COMPATIBLE_MACHINE to linux_* recipe because those recipes are as clean as possible for kernel. May 23 14:46:27 ;) May 23 14:46:38 hrw: right May 23 14:46:48 hrw: so I'm adding them to all other recipes :) May 23 14:46:57 ;) May 23 14:47:37 someone here use(d) Gallery2 for managing photos on web? May 23 14:47:44 yes May 23 14:48:00 till I messed up a rewrite rule May 23 14:48:03 koen: ;D May 23 14:48:17 koen: I plan to create one for my albums May 23 14:48:20 it's pretty neat, but slow if you aren't carefull May 23 14:51:18 Can i get someone to be my commit buddy, I've added a few things to the bug tracker that should be ready for commit. May 23 14:51:40 * koen ponders about creating qemuarm images for angstrom and propagandizing those on the gnome-mobile list May 23 14:52:03 * florian likes that idea May 23 14:52:35 bugs 2356,2357,2361 if someone would be kind enough to commit my work.... May 23 14:52:41 :-) May 23 14:52:44 too bad one requires a patched qemu for EABI May 23 14:53:16 koen where are the patches? May 23 14:53:40 chouimat: in OE, on the scratchbox site, attached to the qemu list May 23 14:53:51 thanks May 23 14:53:52 lots of places to choose from :) May 23 14:54:22 ~seen rwhitby May 23 14:54:22 but afaik it's only required for one commandline emulation May 23 14:54:31 doing full emulation doesn't need those May 23 14:54:39 rwhitby: alive? May 23 14:55:00 rwhitby is currently on #maemo (7h 31m 56s) #oe (7h 31m 56s) #openmoko (7h 31m 56s) #nslu2-linux (7h 31m 56s) #openjtag (7h 31m 56s) #openslug (7h 31m 56s), last said: 'can you pastebin what you are seeing?'. May 23 14:55:53 * koen stabs sdl May 23 14:56:00 ERROR: This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes. Rerun configure task after fixing this. Path was '/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/i686-angstrom-linux/libsdl-x11-1.2.9-r1/SDL-1.2.9' May 23 14:57:59 * chouimat decides to try xen 3.1.0 ... May 23 14:58:00 Zero_Chaos: can you post your bugs with 'mtn diff' output? May 23 14:58:38 hrw: does that mean I take the stuff, put it in place and then type "mtn diff"? May 23 14:59:07 mtn add file file file;mtn diff May 23 14:59:30 awe geez... why is it never easy. May 23 14:59:41 sure, I'll give it a shot if it gets my work commited May 23 14:59:49 Zero_Chaos: this way it will be easier for us May 23 15:00:10 koen: ? May 23 15:00:41 hrw: can I do it just once for everything? or do I have to do it one and a time? May 23 15:00:42 zecke: ? May 23 15:01:09 koen: ? May 23 15:01:11 Zero_Chaos: once per each bug/request May 23 15:01:19 koen: why do you stab sdl? May 23 15:02:09 because it breaks May 23 15:02:17 hrw: okay, but doesn't that mean I will have to wait for each commit before I can post the next request? otherwise "mtn diff" would have the previous ones as well.... May 23 15:02:32 Zero_Chaos: read the monotone manual May 23 15:03:11 no manual entries for mtn or monotone May 23 15:03:12 sweet May 23 15:03:23 I guess I'll start by googling. May 23 15:03:24 Zero_Chaos: and this will give us also name of files May 23 15:03:29 monotone.ca May 23 15:03:32 Zero_Chaos: mtn diff file file file file May 23 15:03:48 NOTE: package rt2570-k2wrlz-1.6.0-r0: task do_build: completed May 23 15:03:55 hrw: thanks, that's what I needed to know. May 23 15:04:00 hrw: thanks for testing. May 23 15:04:10 Zero_Chaos: still read the manual May 23 15:04:17 we are not your personal FAQ database May 23 15:04:48 heh i was trying to get SDL 1.2.11 to compile under oe/angstrom, didn't get far with that myself.. i needed a special config with fbcon+tslib May 23 15:04:54 koen: I know you are not my personal FAQ, but I do have a lot of stuff I'm maintaining and I keep adding stuff so a little patience while I learn monotone would be appreciated. May 23 15:05:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f32005a... 10/ (1 conf/machine/guinness.conf): guinness.conf: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_xserver = "xserver-kdrive" May 23 15:05:17 [17:04] koen: Zero_Chaos: still read the manual May 23 15:05:24 I can be patient after you RTFM May 23 15:05:29 Zero_Chaos, and after you read the manual, write up what you learn on the wiki :) May 23 15:05:56 Crofton: I'm commiting new programs and updates to openembedded, let some other monkey write the docs ;-) May 23 15:06:11 :) May 23 15:06:26 Laibsch: ping May 23 15:06:48 hrw: if I post mtn diff is that all you need? like I don't need to post the .bb and the patches, right? May 23 15:06:50 Laibsch: you are bugmaster. can you add some padding/margin on left/right side in bugzilla? May 23 15:07:03 * * OE Bug 2357 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by openembedded@hrw.one.pl May 23 15:07:05 * * [Bug 2357] Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver May 23 15:07:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2357 May 23 15:07:07 Zero_Chaos: mtn diff with all files/patches inside May 23 15:07:29 hrw: I think I can do that, thanks for the help. in the long run this will likely be easier for me too ;-) May 23 15:10:29 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rcd57d1eb... 10/ (1 packages/rt2x00/rt2570-k2wrlz_1.6.0.bb): rt2570-k2wrlz: added 1.6.0 version - close #2357 May 23 15:11:03 * * OE Bug 1836 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by openembedded@hrw.one.pl May 23 15:11:05 * * [Bug 1836] zaurus-clamshell.conf typos: sumtool uses May 23 15:11:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1836 May 23 15:11:14 * * OE Bug 1827 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by openembedded@hrw.one.pl May 23 15:11:16 * * [Bug 1827] remove 'inherit native' from mkfontscale May 23 15:11:18 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1827 May 23 15:13:06 Zero_Chaos: take care of #1711 please May 23 15:14:46 hrw: did I do 2356 right? I just added the mtn diff. May 23 15:14:51 looking at 1711 now May 23 15:15:38 hrw: I did not like the current layout either. I was thinking about putting the large logo to the left (better for widescreen ;-)) May 23 15:15:53 If you guys don't mind I'll experiment a bit. May 23 15:15:54 hrw: 1711 is actually a different driver, I am supporting the enhanced version, not the serial monkey one. May 23 15:16:41 Laibsch: I have widescreen and now I have to expand konqeror to 1320px to get bugzilla on screen May 23 15:17:09 hrw: did I do 2356 right? is that the mtn diff you need? May 23 15:17:17 Zero_Chaos: sure, but you can ask that reporter to test your version May 23 15:17:26 Zero_Chaos: 'mtn diff' is a command May 23 15:17:48 hrw: I know it is, I attached the output of that command, looked right to me, but is it? May 23 15:18:43 Zero_Chaos: it is crap May 23 15:18:55 "Not one application program on any of my three Ubuntu boxes at home is compiled from source." May 23 15:19:10 ROFL May 23 15:19:31 koen cool someone copied the '0' and the '1' manualy ;) May 23 15:19:32 koen: were they inteligently created then ? May 23 15:19:35 Zero_Chaos: http://pastebin.ca/505408 - this is example May 23 15:19:43 hrw: I did it wrong or I didn't follow the style guide? May 23 15:20:05 koen source of this magnificient insightful comment? May 23 15:20:15 http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=235837&cid=19236313 May 23 15:20:16 Zero_Chaos: make a change in file and then 'mtn diff file' and submit whole output May 23 15:20:41 Zero_Chaos: this will give info which rev you diffed, which exactly files... May 23 15:20:59 hrw: this is a new program I'm adding. May 23 15:21:20 * Zero_Chaos is confused May 23 15:21:33 Zero_Chaos: read the monotone manual May 23 15:22:02 Zero_Chaos: then create dir for it in packages/ then copy all files there. then 'mtn add -R dir', then 'mtn diff dir' and submit May 23 15:22:32 koen I'm impressed ... probably from one of those "TV expert you see on CNN or FoxNews" :) May 23 15:22:37 * koen prepares to see a diff of packages/dir May 23 15:22:52 hrw: that's what I thought I did. May 23 15:23:17 hrw: I made a folder in packages, moved my files there, and then typed mtn add for each file. May 23 15:23:27 then I mtn diff lorcon and attached output May 23 15:23:55 Zero_Chaos: so you diffed file which is not in OE and want us to fix it? May 23 15:25:02 * * OE Bug 2365 has been created by likewise@gmx.net May 23 15:25:04 * * uclibc: can't handle reloc type 0x49 in lib May 23 15:25:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2365 May 23 15:25:29 heh half of Liverpool is in down town Athens, drinking beers :) May 23 15:27:35 * Zero_Chaos is so confused. May 23 15:28:53 I'll read the manual, but I honestly have no idea what I did wrong, it looks right and I did exactly as you said. May 23 15:29:34 Zero_Chaos: its ok, I am confused as well May 23 15:30:34 WTF? May 23 15:30:36 [17:28] france verlaat de chatruimte. (Remote closed the connection) May 23 15:30:41 XorA: I just gave up yesterday trying to help the Angstrom project, and now I'm trying to add things to mtn but I am apparently retarded. May 23 15:30:45 didn't we ban his fascist ass? May 23 15:31:27 Zero_Chaos: I dont have time to look now, Ill try tonight if I can get my computer working May 23 15:31:56 XorA: no worries, eventually I'll either get it right, or give up trying to share my work. hopefully the former May 23 15:34:32 hrw: I don't think I have access to change the CSS May 23 15:34:39 koen: Or do I? May 23 15:34:47 Zero_Chaos: looks fine to me, I am as puzzled as you are May 23 15:35:00 and I dont understand Laibsch's comment either May 23 15:35:03 rbugzilla css? May 23 15:35:14 ggilbert: yes May 23 15:35:18 you don May 23 15:35:21 don't May 23 15:35:30 but if you send me any changes you'd like made, I can do them May 23 15:35:53 ggilbert: OK. I will take a look but I have not worked on CSS for years May 23 15:35:56 koen: does gallery2 allow to set photo as album miniature? now it use first one only May 23 15:36:00 XorA: which comment? May 23 15:36:13 Laibsch: the one issue per bug, when there is only one issue in the bug May 23 15:36:15 hrw: yes, 'highlight' in gallery speak May 23 15:36:22 Laibsch: 2365 May 23 15:36:28 btw, I vaguely remember some of the oe stuff being on hh.o. France isn't asserting any ownership over it, is he? May 23 15:36:38 ggilbert: not yet May 23 15:36:45 good May 23 15:36:46 Zero_Chaos: OE cant chmod because it doesnt run as root unless you are insane May 23 15:37:12 * ggilbert is quite disappointed by the recent events May 23 15:37:46 XorA: seems like it is a danger though because now it is installing something that may or may not be chown/chmod properly to the embedded system May 23 15:37:55 ggilbert: aren't we all May 23 15:38:07 Laibsch: what in styling changes were you looking at making? I might be able to sort it out easily enough. May 23 15:38:09 XorA: hence I am circumventing safety features to get things to "make install" May 23 15:38:26 * koen mentions 'fakeroot' May 23 15:39:12 * mwester mentions the time he had to reinstall a Fedora system after running OE as root May 23 15:39:16 !oebug 2365 May 23 15:39:18 * * Bug 2365, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-23 08:23 May 23 15:39:19 * * likewise(AT)gmx.net: uclibc: can't handle reloc type 0x49 in lib '/lib/libc.so.6' for powerpc/angstrom/uclibc May 23 15:39:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2365 May 23 15:39:38 Zero_Chaos: fakeroot? May 23 15:39:52 mwester: it's why I do all my OE stuff in a chroot :) May 23 15:39:55 Laibsch: useful tutorial somewhere? May 23 15:40:04 man fakeroot? May 23 15:40:31 Laibsch: and this will let me chmod/chown the files properly? May 23 15:40:43 yes May 23 15:40:46 Zero_Chaos: that chmod is actually a waste of space anyway, making a man page owned by root, when it will be owned by root on install anyway May 23 15:41:12 XorA: how do i know that? how do I know it will be owned by root on install? May 23 15:41:18 Zero_Chaos: fakeroot $whatevercommandyouwereusing May 23 15:41:30 Zero_Chaos: when ipkg does tar -zxvf data.tar.gz May 23 15:42:05 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, people stop bloody over complexing things May 23 15:42:06 XorA: so everything is owned by root? May 23 15:42:10 XorA: 2365? May 23 15:42:15 No comment from me in there May 23 15:42:21 Laibsch: 2356 May 23 15:42:26 sorry typo May 23 15:43:19 hi May 23 15:43:39 a) the patch is corrent, b) its not circumventing any security issues, c) we seem to be making submission to OE an unclimable mountain May 23 15:43:47 s/corrent/correct/ May 23 15:44:16 !oebug 2356 May 23 15:44:17 * * Bug 2356, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-21 16:54 May 23 15:44:18 * * r.farina(AT)adelphia.net: Loss of Radio connectivity May 23 15:44:19 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 May 23 15:44:35 XorA: well technically removing the chown's is circumventing security, but it's not too bad ;-) May 23 15:45:45 Zero_Chaos: only in the case where make install write to the host, its nonsense in makefile for cross compile May 23 15:47:04 ggilbert: As a quick fix a) put the OE logo on the left (this will add an inherent spacer on the left side), b) slim down the width of the "people" and "Details" boxes so this is readable on at least 1024x768 or smaller May 23 15:47:38 c) find a victim that makes a proper bugzilla3 template for OE :) May 23 15:48:37 anyway time for me to find train home May 23 15:49:01 XorA: I was not sure whether the patch was correct and thus requested review. I don't understand how you came to the impresseion you got May 23 15:49:22 Laibsch: one issue per bug, there is only one issue May 23 15:49:37 one issue, one bug should be clear from the quoted portion May 23 15:50:11 Laibsch: there is only one issue, dont invent stuff from your imagination May 23 15:50:21 Actually, I might have had a need to look closer on that one ;-) May 23 15:51:02 XorA: Come on, this is not a big deal. I looked on it like five seconds and thought this was a separate request May 23 15:51:32 "mtn diff" of the whole stuff might have made it obvious enough even for me ;-) May 23 15:53:25 I think submission to OE is much more accessible now than six months ago when your stuff would rot in there for more than a year most of the time. May 23 15:53:41 What was the turnaround on this one? Les than 24 hours or more? May 23 15:54:13 That is what defines the unclimable mountain for me. May 23 15:55:03 A question too many does not kill you. No reaction at all is another story. As a submitter I'd rather have the former than the latter. May 23 15:55:22 I'd rather read a manual May 23 15:55:46 koen: Go ahead ;-) May 23 15:55:57 This is actually the first time I've had any trouble submitting, as such it is a bit discouraging. I am, however, reading the tutorial and hoping to learn something. May 23 15:56:02 Or tell the submitter to read a manual which was my point ;-) May 23 15:56:05 "Make My Day" May 23 15:56:20 Zero_Chaos: This is not against you. May 23 15:56:46 Laibsch: i know, just pitching in ;-) May 23 15:57:03 * chouimat says some really bad thing about people in #openwrt May 23 15:57:54 But educating submitters make sense because otherwise we will get dumped by one-offs who submit their favourite package which might need quite a bit of rework. They then fail to maintain it and thus it unnecessarily increases the workload for the few OE devs. May 23 15:58:12 Having a bit of a hurdle is not so bad in my book May 23 15:58:31 chouimat: What happened. You were playing with the fire again? May 23 15:58:44 Laibsch: I have taken responsibility for a number of reciepes and I have all intention of maintaining my work. I've even picked up a few that were not mine to begin with. May 23 15:59:02 Laibsch: I have a simple question ... I know I never learn ... May 23 15:59:08 Zero_Chaos: Again, this is not about you. And I know you are submitting stuff regularly May 23 15:59:25 Zero_Chaos, we want to make sure you understand monotone :) May 23 15:59:35 Crofton: I don't :-) May 23 15:59:43 Crofton: but I'm learning slowly :-) May 23 15:59:49 :) May 23 15:59:53 Zero_Chaos: Think of this as a "Rite of Passage" on the way to your own commit acces :) May 23 15:59:55 Zero_Chaos: Monotone is easy and you will love it May 23 16:00:11 I understand enough to commit and not make a mess of things May 23 16:00:15 most of the time :) May 23 16:00:23 Laibsch: I probably have more experience in software development than most of them but they act like they are the top of the food chain :) May 23 16:00:43 ok May 23 16:00:52 NOW it is lunch time :) May 23 16:00:53 chouimat: What is your question. Maybe you be better helped here? May 23 16:01:17 hvontres|poodle: yeah, I figured as much. I will take the time to learn as I know what the possible benefits are. May 23 16:01:22 Laibsch: I found the answer by myself ... took me a few hours of googling :) May 23 16:04:44 Laibsch: k, it's on my todo list May 23 16:11:39 Zero_Chaos: Is http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1510 a patch to OE or as I suspect a patch to the upstream source? May 23 16:16:25 Laibsch: that is a patch to the source because OE doesnt' support -o root (chown) May 23 16:19:17 Ok, as you know now that is not needed. May 23 16:19:34 Is the bug report invalid? May 23 16:19:36 Laibsch: if I add fakeroot before it you mean? May 23 16:20:05 Laibsch: the "bug" reported is a new reciepe that isn't in OE May 23 16:20:07 As XorA said it is not necessary at all since apparently ipkg will install as root in any case May 23 16:20:33 Laibsch: well I still need the patch, and I need to verify what XorA said, doesn't seem to make sense May 23 16:20:37 OK, it has drawn out into a couple of tasks now May 23 16:21:09 which does not help understandability May 23 16:21:33 it's okay, i don't mind learning about a better way to fix it. May 23 16:21:59 just a lot on my plate now. May 23 16:22:39 I will commit the MAINTAINERS file change later and make a comment as to what is still open May 23 16:23:39 Zero_Chaos: Maybe this is insignificant, but I asked this in the BTS before May 23 16:23:49 Why do you change file permissions in http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1518 May 23 16:23:53 from 644 to 444? May 23 16:24:20 Laibsch: honestly, since I can't control who owns it, I figured I'd at least remove write permissions until I find a safer way. May 23 16:24:38 Laibsch: not like it really matters, but I felt a little better. May 23 16:25:09 OK May 23 16:27:28 that doesn't make sense May 23 16:28:07 we don't want such hacks in OE May 23 16:28:23 root should own the man pages so that no one can write to them. however, since I cannot control who own it, I figured I remove write. May 23 16:28:27 koen: are you serious? May 23 16:28:44 yes May 23 16:28:50 koen: bitbake cannot support install properly and you call my work hack? May 23 16:29:02 Zero_Chaos: fakeroot! May 23 16:29:12 koen: what did I do wrong? I am preserving as much security as possible. May 23 16:29:14 " bitbake cannot support install properly and you call my work hack?" shows how clueless you are about OE May 23 16:29:22 or as Xora said it is owned by root anhow May 23 16:29:28 Laibsch: yeah I'll look into it, I'm still reading about mtn. May 23 16:30:01 koen: I took over something that was not maintained and that was the way it was fixed before I even started, but NOW you don't want suck "hacks" in OE May 23 16:30:21 koen: being clueless about OE is not a disease and nothing to be ashamed of. I guess there are only about 3 to 5 people in the world really in the know about OE ;-) May 23 16:30:44 * Laibsch is not one of them May 23 16:30:54 koen: I do not know that much about OE, and I'm happy to learn, but if you continue to berate me I could always choose not to submit my work. May 23 16:31:01 Laibsch: no, but pretending not to be clueless and going "OMG SECURITY!!!!" is something to be ashamed off May 23 16:31:11 Zero_Chaos: I think what koen was trying to say was that he would prefer to see this fixed using fakeroot instead May 23 16:31:14 Zero_Chaos: There are things that have been done in the past which we don't want to continue May 23 16:31:19 Zero_Chaos: There's no need to get upset, Koen just wants to make sure that the packages are built properly. May 23 16:31:26 hvontres|poodle: I agree, and I learned that like ten minutes ago. May 23 16:31:58 even if we mentioned fakeroot over an hour ago May 23 16:32:18 koen: yes, you are right May 23 16:32:19 but May 23 16:32:20 hvontres|poodle: and I still have no idea what it is other than the fact that someone told me I could just put "fakeroot" in front of the line and fix it. so when I'm done reading about mtn I'll read about fakeroot. May 23 16:32:41 cu May 23 16:33:01 Zero_Chaos seems willing to learn. So let's give him the benefit of doubt. Live and learn! May 23 16:33:04 koen: either way, I based my work on someone else's, and I'm happy to improve it, but... I am still learning about mtn because apparently my mtn diff wasn't "proper" in some unknown way. May 23 16:33:19 So I'll work on fakeroot next :-) May 23 16:33:38 Zero_Chaos: This is not so complicated. May 23 16:33:57 fakeroot will act as a "fake root" May 23 16:34:18 You can chown things to root without really being root for example. May 23 16:34:25 Zero_Chaos: And don't worry too much about koen...he is just not what you would call "Tech Support Material" :) May 23 16:34:41 ture May 23 16:34:43 true May 23 16:34:59 OTOH, angstrom and OE would not be what it is without koen May 23 16:35:37 I know who koen is, and I try to show respect where it is due, but it wouldn't be a stretch to say he has been a little rough on me today. May 23 16:35:50 anyway, back to my tutorial May 23 16:35:51 Laibsch: I agree that koen is a REALLY smart guy, just no your bet PR person. :) May 23 16:35:53 ~hail koen, the fierce St. Peter of OE ;-) May 23 16:35:59 you continue to refuse to take advice May 23 16:36:01 * ibot bows down to koen, the fierce St. Peter of OE ;-) and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" May 23 16:36:10 of course I'm rough on people like that May 23 16:36:43 actually you are mean to practically everybody May 23 16:37:01 koen: but we still like you :) May 23 16:39:00 koen: honestly, you are critiquing things I submitted more than 24 hours ago and expecting me to have done it like I knew what I know now. I'm not refusing to take advice, I just have not fixed it all yet. If you noticed, I stopped complaining about no one commiting my work, and I'm reading about mtn and fakeroot. Give me a little more time. May 23 16:39:20 CoreDump|home : alleluia brother :) May 23 16:40:17 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r8180f586... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-magicbox_2.6.19.2.bb): May 23 16:40:17 packages/linux/linux-magicbox_2.6.19.2.bb: Add TARGET_VENDOR to the May 23 16:40:17 objcopy so that it supports distro's that use. It should make no May 23 16:40:17 difference is TARGET_VENDOR is not set May 23 16:40:17 it May 23 16:40:24 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r1563f689... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-dht-walnut_2.6.20.bb): May 23 16:40:24 packages/linux/linux-dht-walnut_2.6.20.b: Add TARGET_VENDOR to the May 23 16:40:24 objcopy so that it supports distro's that use. It should make no May 23 16:40:26 difference is TARGET_VENDOR is not set May 23 16:40:31 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rcad48bac... 10/ (1 packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb): May 23 16:40:31 packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb :Initial commit of meta package containing all the packages which build for OPLinux nad OPLinux May 23 16:40:33 uclibc distro May 23 16:55:02 * * OE Bug 2366 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 23 16:55:04 * * opensp-native fails do_compile May 23 16:55:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2366 May 23 16:55:51 hi May 23 16:58:51 koen : do the email notifications for commits work ? Haven't received anything for the last commits May 23 16:59:39 steliosk: yes, but they have a bit of a lag May 23 16:59:49 koen : ok May 23 17:00:02 koen : did you check the script for the repo update ? May 23 17:00:09 didn't test it yet May 23 17:04:06 !oebug 2315 May 23 17:04:07 * * Bug 2315, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-14 12:50 May 23 17:04:08 * * sybren(AT)stuvel.eu: Asterisk misses speex module May 23 17:04:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2315 May 23 17:04:31 does the asterisk in OE support chan_bluetooth already? May 23 17:04:48 can someone check if their buid produced codec_speex.so ? normaly it should May 23 17:04:52 koen : nop May 23 17:06:21 * koen bitbake asterisk May 23 17:06:29 steliosk: I unclogged the mailq May 23 17:07:41 koen : ok they arrived May 23 17:12:12 koen : comming soon -> http://rafb.net/p/D3JJw027.html :) May 23 17:12:55 what's a bri? May 23 17:13:11 isdn support May 23 17:13:15 koen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/ppc603e-angstrom-linux/asterisk-1.2.18-r5/asterisk-1.2.18/codecs$ ls *.so May 23 17:13:15 codec_adpcm.so codec_alaw.so codec_a_mu.so codec_g726.so codec_gsm.so codec_ilbc.so codec_lpc10.so codec_speex.so codec_ulaw.so May 23 17:13:31 so the bug should be closed May 23 17:14:12 seems that way May 23 17:14:24 basically we got full asterisk build including drivers for zaptel with big endian support May 23 17:15:45 will you do it ? May 23 17:16:31 WTF GF started legal proceedings about the #gpe channel May 23 17:16:50 he did? May 23 17:17:13 CoreDump|home: apparently #gpe is held pending legal discussion with freenode May 23 17:17:20 ah that May 23 17:17:29 -ChanServ- [#gpe] Hi. This channel is currently held in trust by freenode staff awaiting a legal resolution. In the meantime, you can find gpe.handhelds.org in #handhelds-gpe, and gpe.linuxtogo.org in #gpe-project. Have a nice day, and thank you for using freenode. May 23 17:17:44 that was actually florian s decision AFAIK, just in case... May 23 17:18:44 * koen hopes hh.org servers will have an 'accident' during 'routine maintenance' May 23 17:18:44 CoreDump|home: ah phew May 23 17:18:49 using a chainsaw May 23 17:19:32 koen: we should nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be safe! May 23 17:19:52 CoreDump|home: the backup servers are at OSOSL May 23 17:20:04 next to kernel.org, freedesktop.org and nlu2-linux.org May 23 17:20:16 I'd like to keep those running :) May 23 17:20:21 hrmmm May 23 17:20:23 indeed May 23 17:20:44 tiny tactical nuke May 23 17:21:11 I dislike the "tactical" part about that. It should be messy May 23 17:21:45 OTOH, kernel.org and friends have probably off-site backup servers as well =) May 23 17:21:50 CoreDump|home : its tactical before you deploy it... afterwards its really messy May 23 17:21:53 koen: how about a "bug" in the scsi driver that causes the heads to "park" themselves all over the disk :) May 23 17:22:01 WHo is this guy? May 23 17:22:06 muhaha May 23 17:22:11 * Crofton may regret asking that question .... May 23 17:22:31 he is the only person banned on #oe =) May 23 17:22:35 Crofton: one of the hh.org founders May 23 17:22:46 CoreDump|home: it seems the ban was lifted :( May 23 17:22:48 CoreDump|home: George France, CEO and self-anointed God of hh.org, inc May 23 17:22:59 * #oe Bannliste: Mon May 21 00:37:11 *!*@handhelds/founder/france May 23 17:23:28 hvontres|poodle: he used to be a really cool guy :\ ( At least IMO ) May 23 17:23:39 people get weird May 23 17:23:42 [17:30] koen: WTF? May 23 17:23:42 [17:30] koen: [17:28] france verlaat de chatruimte. (Remote closed the connection) May 23 17:23:43 [17:30] koen: didn't we ban his fascist ass? May 23 17:23:56 ('verlaat' == leaves) May 23 17:24:05 we had a local fellow that woould get to know people, then freak them out with crazy behavior May 23 17:24:11 koen: only his mask is banned, not the nickname "france" May 23 17:24:31 * koen looks at kergoth for enhancing the ban May 23 17:25:11 his ban in #openzaurus is a little bit more "generic" ;) May 23 17:25:12 kergoth, is probably wishing he could erase Integrity, like I hope I did yesterday :) May 23 17:25:41 * hvontres|poodle wonders if the MIT legal dpt. has anything to to with the (tm) crap.... May 23 17:25:45 !oebug 1000 May 23 17:26:31 * koen ponders about doing s/ipk/oepk/g in OE May 23 17:26:36 hvontres|poodle: quite unlikely... these trademarks are registered to him in person May 23 17:27:01 * * OE Bug 2315 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by skoroneos@digital-opsis.com May 23 17:27:03 * * [Bug 2315] Asterisk misses speex module May 23 17:27:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2315 May 23 17:27:14 koen: it might be better just to fork it... its quite easy and we could get rid of a lit of crap May 23 17:27:16 if he's correct about hh.org, shouldn't the trademarks and right be part of compaq/hp? May 23 17:27:28 !oebug 1000 May 23 17:27:29 * * Bug 1000, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-05-17 05:27 May 23 17:27:30 * * Terminar(AT)cyberphoria.org: glibc 2.3.2-initial_2.3.2+cvs20040726 bits/* problem May 23 17:27:31 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1000 May 23 17:30:12 actually, I ponder about seeing how usable the apt+deb images are May 23 17:30:16 lets wait with the forking until he actually gets the trademarks please May 23 17:30:40 with all the patches psokolovsky puts in OE we have effectively forked it ;) May 23 17:31:48 heh May 23 17:31:55 * XorA suggest edpkg Embedded Dpkg May 23 17:32:11 ops May 23 17:32:15 OMG package system May 23 17:32:43 I like that one! May 23 17:32:45 ;-) May 23 17:32:57 because it forces me to use forumspeak? May 23 17:33:05 * * OE Bug 375 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 23 17:33:07 * * [Bug 375] mpeg2dec and libmpeg2 provide the exact same May 23 17:33:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 May 23 17:33:30 koen: can we get ops to play the valley-girl OMG when it's done? May 23 17:33:51 hvontres|poodle: valley girls scare me May 23 17:35:10 does packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb break anyone elses bitbake? May 23 17:35:19 * chouimat wants oeportage :) May 23 17:35:35 chouimat: that's called bitbake ;) May 23 17:35:41 koen ;) May 23 17:36:07 koen why not got for erpm (Embedded RPM) ... May 23 17:36:19 * Laibsch hates rpm May 23 17:37:01 * * OE Bug 1918 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by skoroneos@digital-opsis.com May 23 17:37:03 * * [Bug 1918] Add soft-float support for powerpc targets May 23 17:37:04 * chouimat too but he had to use them for an embedded projects because the Holy Manager told him too ... May 23 17:37:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1918 May 23 17:37:22 oept-goet instoel May 23 17:37:35 s/instoel/instoell/ May 23 17:37:42 likewise: swedish chef? May 23 17:37:57 swoedish choef May 23 17:37:59 XorA : how it breaks bitbake ? May 23 17:38:02 likewise: dutch based Interface? May 23 17:38:03 bork bork bork May 23 17:38:26 chouimat: no, OE infected apt tools May 23 17:38:31 hehe May 23 17:38:36 OE, the kde way May 23 17:38:46 s//OE/g May 23 17:38:53 Is Joaquim Duran around? Anybody know his nick? May 23 17:39:34 likewise: we could call it bpm, the Borked Package Manager...that way if it Borks your system we can point back to the name :) May 23 17:39:57 hvontres|poodle: LOL May 23 17:40:05 hehe I like that May 23 17:40:32 Borg Package manager: assimilate May 23 17:40:50 with bittorrent backend May 23 17:40:52 koen: does that one use -force by default? May 23 17:41:01 hvontres|poodle: yes May 23 17:41:38 hvontres|poodle: see the line below the logo: http://ohm.freedesktop.org/wiki/ May 23 17:41:38 koen: hmm, I think MS is aready using that one.... May 23 17:42:23 steliosk: if you saw it you would know :-) May 23 17:43:05 XorA : saw what ? May 23 17:43:24 steliosk: how it blows up on parsing May 23 17:43:50 XorA : which bitbake version ? I am using 1.6.7 here and works May 23 17:44:13 steliosk: the info I need is does it work for anyone, that is enough May 23 17:44:30 only 5 weeks left till 1.8.x world domination May 23 17:44:38 XorA : works for me :) May 23 17:44:52 steliosk: btw, can asterisk use gnutls instead of openssl? May 23 17:44:53 steliosk: cool, must be disk/ram corruption here still :-( May 23 17:44:55 koen: errgggg... I like the logo too... May 23 17:45:13 anyone know a good and easy to use CMS that can use postgresql? May 23 17:45:19 ERROR: 1 while parsing /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb May 23 17:45:34 chouimat: drupal can use postgres May 23 17:45:51 koen : not sure never tried it May 23 17:45:56 XorA, steliosk: http://rafb.net/p/GjI6NV66.html May 23 17:46:19 koen easy to use? May 23 17:46:51 chouimat: once you get the hang of it, yes May 23 17:46:58 chouimat: but every CMS confuses me May 23 17:47:06 hmmm. not showing up in 1.6 May 23 17:47:19 haven't tested with 1.8 though May 23 17:47:34 koen I just need to build (finaly) my website ... and I don't want to lear mysql :) May 23 17:47:36 anyone familiar with u-boot and booting from NAND? May 23 17:48:26 steliosk: I think bitbake dislikes the 3 space tabs May 23 17:48:55 Crofton: not quite. My First NAND (u-)boot was last week... May 23 17:49:10 is the board in 1.2.0? May 23 17:49:30 I am trying to convert the DV EVM u-boot to a board that boots from NAND May 23 17:49:30 1.1.6 AIRC, but it needed patches. May 23 17:51:18 koen: thats the error May 23 17:51:41 * XorA begins to get pissed off at his macchine May 23 17:59:02 Crofton: I tried googling for the board I used (MPC8313) but I cannot find the patches online. May 23 18:00:02 * * OE Bug 2367 has been created by folkertvanderbeek@gmail.com May 23 18:00:04 * * angstrom poodle: no suspend support May 23 18:00:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2367 May 23 18:00:58 How do we support a multiple configurations of one package? I would like to create a lighttpd-minimal and lighttpd-ssl-webdav or somesuch. May 23 18:01:00 hey pH5 May 23 18:01:13 s/a multiple/multiple/ May 23 18:01:16 likewise: most of the times two recipes May 23 18:01:30 unless it supports 'plugins' May 23 18:02:12 hey koen May 23 18:02:25 ok, then is the normal package name (lighttpd-1.4.15.bb) the minimal config or maximal config, or somewhere inbetween? May 23 18:02:51 that's open to debate May 23 18:03:14 I'll create lighttpd (http only) and lighttpd-ssl-webdav (http/https/webdav) then. May 23 18:04:10 and I'll respond with my usual "use cherokee" May 23 18:04:39 * koen puts up the "will endorse project for beer" sign May 23 18:05:11 no beer left in Athens... Liverpool funs in town for 2 days :) May 23 18:05:40 * likewise puts up his "was clueless about cherokee" banner May 23 18:05:53 * likewise and opens a beer for koen May 23 18:06:31 XorA, koen : please sync with the rep and retry oplinux-packages May 23 18:06:31 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r597edaa8... 10/ (1 packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb): packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb: fix some tab/spaces issues that made bitbake 1.8 complain when processing the package May 23 18:07:03 * koen gets bored and starts smiling at monkeys May 23 18:09:20 re May 23 18:09:30 so let me get this straight, fakeroot is emulating UID0 not / ? May 23 18:09:38 wow, all these years, I had no idea May 23 18:09:59 steliosk: still an error over here May 23 18:10:25 do I need to depend fakeroot to use it? May 23 18:11:20 fakesu May 23 18:11:22 :-) May 23 18:12:11 koen: cherokee does not do webdav (...i think...) and /me hides May 23 18:12:23 anyone tell me, I presume I should depend fakeroot if I'm using it... is that right? May 23 18:12:39 Zero_Chaos: I assume that this in the manual May 23 18:12:48 the OE manual? May 23 18:12:53 where can i find that? May 23 18:13:06 likewise: correct: http://www.cherokee-project.com/bugs/browser/cherokee/trunk/TODO May 23 18:13:09 http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_fakeroot May 23 18:13:25 likewise: many thanks May 23 18:13:51 wow, so simple. May 23 18:13:59 * Zero_Chaos <3's fakeroot May 23 18:14:01 Zero_Chaos: it took me 5 seconds to look that up, pls. try yourself before asking the really obvious questions May 23 18:14:39 likewise: I was reading fakeroot's useless website, I lost mental stability, I'll attempt to improve :-) May 23 18:15:36 Zero_Chaos: no problem. I tend to ask stupid questions myself. May 23 18:15:45 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rc40d025f... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): lighttpd: Added 1.4.15, for those clueless about cherokee. May 23 18:15:45 * Crofton should read the manual one day ... May 23 18:16:14 I also like www.openembedded.info May 23 18:16:53 likewise: v8jlene is moving that to org.openembedded.documentation May 23 18:17:09 ~hail v8jlene May 23 18:17:20 a cool domain name though :) May 23 18:17:25 * ibot bows down to v8jlene and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" May 23 18:18:03 koen : same error ? May 23 18:18:17 looks the same May 23 18:19:31 * chouimat hates docbook May 23 18:19:44 will get 1.8 installed and try it..... but its strange if its something wrong in the included python script 1.6 should also complain about it.... May 23 18:22:10 cu May 23 18:22:52 steliosk: you'd want 1.8.x anyway for your compile cluster :) May 23 18:23:16 hmm, supporting upstart will probably affect all *bb... May 23 18:23:39 likewise: that's why I stayed away May 23 18:23:55 likewise: it probably needs an upstart.bbclass as well May 23 18:24:02 koen :we are trying to get a "stable" version out and then move to 1.8 May 23 18:24:04 koen: so we then should have a depend on the init system in use? May 23 18:24:33 likewise: to have the magic in a common file May 23 18:24:40 like update-rc.d.bbclass May 23 18:26:37 time to watch NCIS May 23 18:31:03 koen http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/Media/PDFs/FY06FISMA.pdf May 23 18:31:13 koen it's scary :) May 23 18:42:34 heh May 23 18:46:55 Can a package at the same time PROVDE foo and RPROVIDE foo? May 23 18:47:06 sure May 23 18:47:19 remember that those are really different things May 23 18:47:40 PROVIDES works on OE/bitbake level and RPROVIDES on ipkg level May 23 18:48:04 yes, which is why I was wondering May 23 18:56:58 re May 23 19:05:03 * * OE Bug 2069 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by r.farina@adelphia.net May 23 19:05:05 * * [Bug 2069] ettercap fails to build. May 23 19:05:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2069 May 23 19:06:03 * * OE Bug 2072 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by r.farina@adelphia.net May 23 19:06:05 * * [Bug 2072] zaurus wifi May 23 19:06:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2072 May 23 19:07:03 * * OE Bug 2074 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by r.farina@adelphia.net May 23 19:07:05 * * [Bug 2074] opie-rdesktop build failure May 23 19:07:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2074 May 23 19:11:03 * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED () by santeri@santeri.se May 23 19:11:05 * * [Bug 1852] Bison contains path to buildsystem May 23 19:11:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= May 23 19:12:02 * * OE Bug 2356 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by r.farina@adelphia.net May 23 19:12:04 * * [Bug 2356] Loss of Radio connectivity May 23 19:12:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 May 23 19:12:42 * koen ponders about a script that closed bugs as WONTFIX when adding me to CC: May 23 19:14:07 hi zecke May 23 19:14:09 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rc0e5be03... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: update my entry May 23 19:14:16 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re4bf9588... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: update Rick Farina's entry, partly closes bug 2356. May 23 19:14:26 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2070b07a... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): May 23 19:14:26 libmpeg2: drop from OE. May 23 19:14:26 Reason: mpeg2dec provides libmpeg2, see bug 375 May 23 19:14:33 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r59d79931... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/files/errordb-keysymdb-path-fix.patch): xorg-lib: drop unused errordb-keysymdb-path-fix.patch May 23 19:14:41 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r93674ba3... 10/ (1 removal.txt): removal.txt: add gtkmm 2.4.8 for removal. See bug 1184 for further info. May 23 19:14:47 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2095c717... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: update my entry May 23 19:15:04 anyone planing to go to the LinuxTag and needs a ticket? May 23 19:16:20 ah, drat May 23 19:16:33 linuxtag is happening at the wrong time May 23 19:22:10 ah bollox my computer is fscked May 23 19:24:34 my zaurus 3200 is now my fastest machine May 23 19:24:49 lol May 23 19:25:20 * XorA wonders how long a angstrom build will take May 23 19:26:01 * * OE Bug 2368 has been created by r.farina@adelphia.net May 23 19:26:04 * * Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver May 23 19:26:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 May 23 19:26:12 even faster than your desktop? May 23 19:27:00 * XorA suspects to microdrive would fail before end May 23 19:35:38 !oebug 2368 May 23 19:35:40 * * Bug 2368, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-23 12:23 May 23 19:35:41 * * r.farina(AT)adelphia.net: Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver May 23 19:35:42 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 May 23 19:36:12 is this all correct and happy? if so, can someone commit it? May 23 19:51:05 someone at least tell me if I did it right? May 23 19:52:18 Zero_Chaos: what are you trying to do? May 23 19:52:59 summatusmentis: I was schooled earlier on how to properly submit something to OE, and I wanted someone to check that I have complied. May 23 19:53:26 hrm... that bug report looks good, but I didn't know there was a protocol for it May 23 19:53:40 summatusmentis: nor did I until this morning. May 23 19:53:41 :-) May 23 19:54:01 Zero_Chaos, I'll take a quick look May 23 19:54:04 what is the protocol? is it online somewhere? May 23 19:54:08 let's not call it protocol May 23 19:54:20 Crofton: were you here for my schooling? you know what they were looking for? May 23 19:54:21 This is best practice and common ground May 23 19:54:24 It helps everyone May 23 19:54:32 a little May 23 19:54:51 summatusmentis: There is a page in the OE wiki with policies May 23 19:55:03 Laibsch: ok, that's fair, I'll go look for them, I didn't know there was any such thing May 23 19:55:14 This bb file contains stuff I am not good at though May 23 19:55:19 summatusmentis: it only concerns the devs May 23 19:55:23 more or less May 23 19:55:24 Laibsch: I agree only one issue I've run into. If I have to modify MAINTAINERS each time I add something, I cannot add two things without a commit in between because the diffs would be odd. May 23 19:55:49 ? May 23 19:55:55 Laibsch: well, my hope is to help out w/ dev sometime this summer, so... good to know May 23 19:56:03 mtn commit path_to_file May 23 19:56:14 Zero_Chaos: a) you don't need to add every package you ever added to MAINTAINERS May 23 19:56:17 Crofton: I don't have that access ;-) May 23 19:56:28 Zero_Chaos: b) I don't understand the problem May 23 19:56:35 mtn diff path_to_file maybe? May 23 19:56:42 Zero_Chaos: c) I am sure mtn can handle it May 23 19:56:44 Laibsch: I thought MAINTAINERS was appropriate so people could complain to the right person May 23 19:56:47 Zero_Chaos, you may be able to commit locally May 23 19:57:47 Zero_Chaos: Of course, it is good if you do it. But most people don't add every package but indicate a general interest or a class of packages May 23 19:57:55 Crofton: point is, I change the line once, then change it later, if the diffs are applied in the wrong order it will bug out May 23 19:58:31 ok May 23 19:58:50 Zero_Chaos: Well, maybe one issue at a time was not so wrong after all May 23 19:58:54 I haven't worked with many kernel modules May 23 19:58:58 Zero_Chaos: Just do the Maintainer file last May 23 19:59:13 Only if you want to May 23 19:59:18 so I do not know if what you have is OK May 23 19:59:45 Laibsch: you mean just modify maintainer once when I know I'm adding a lot? I can do that, I was just worried that wasn't "proper" May 23 19:59:59 Zero_Chaos: but I do understand what you are getting at, now. So b) is no longer an issue ;-) May 23 20:00:08 Zero_Chaos, in a sense we are all MAINTAINERs May 23 20:00:18 Zero_Chaos: I think you are worrying too much now ;-) May 23 20:00:19 From time to time, update your entry May 23 20:00:33 * Crofton should check his :) May 23 20:00:40 Laibsch: forgive me for worring too much, I was schooled this morning. May 23 20:00:51 do we have a field for things we used to maintain, but lost interest in? May 23 20:00:52 Zero_Chaos: Despite the impression you may currently have, we are all warm, loving humans ;-) May 23 20:01:07 Zero_Chaos, koen can be rough May 23 20:01:10 I wouldn't go that far May 23 20:01:11 but he is a good guy May 23 20:01:14 Laibsch: I'm aware, someone (a few of them even) had a bad day, and I learned something. May 23 20:01:15 Crofton: That would be the delete key May 23 20:01:18 so, no worries May 23 20:01:22 Laibsch: :-) May 23 20:01:27 heh May 23 20:01:35 This project was build on a solid foundation of zero-tolerance for cluelessness May 23 20:01:35 Well, I added something I used to need May 23 20:01:52 and no longer care about, but I think others have used it May 23 20:02:31 Crofton: Again, just remove it from MAINTAINERS. You are still visible via mtn log and that won't change. May 23 20:02:41 true :) May 23 20:03:02 Crofton: people like me who don't find an entry in MAINTAINERS will consult "mtn log" and thus find you May 23 20:03:08 You cannot hide ;-) May 23 20:03:18 * Crofton wishes he could edit the log :) May 23 20:03:41 this is your past - live with it! May 23 20:03:48 Be a man now! May 23 20:03:55 every bad idea I ever had is in a log somewhere May 23 20:04:07 this is open source dev at it's finest! May 23 20:04:11 koen You online? Thanx for committing my patch :) May 23 20:05:00 However koen I'd love if You could take a look at this issue as well http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2353 May 23 20:05:14 The fix is very easy ;) May 23 20:06:52 <[cc]smart> so if i get it right, the name GPE was introduced by german comapny kernelconcepts. do they not defend angainst gpe trademark takeover ? May 23 20:08:13 ibot: botmail for ifaistos: Your oplinux change throws strange errors at parse time. Please take a look and fix. May 23 20:15:11 <[cc]smart> Q: We have the "makedevs" package. busybox has if i got it correct taken over this idea and implemented it as a busybox component. Now i would like an enhancement to it. So i ask myself if it was better in this case to play with own makdevs or, which i think might be better, think of it as an upstream thing in busybox... ? May 23 20:16:09 [cc]smart upstream is always best May 23 20:22:37 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd28c26f2... 10/ (1 packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb): oplinux-packages: reindented to get parsed - use 4 spaces not tabs May 23 20:48:02 * * OE Bug 2369 has been created by r.farina@adelphia.net May 23 20:48:04 * * Loss of Radio connectivity May 23 20:48:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2369 May 23 20:49:02 * * OE Bug 1350 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2367 *** by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 23 20:49:04 * * [Bug 1350] 3.5.4.2-rc1 GPE Poodle suspend hang May 23 20:49:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350 May 23 20:49:32 WTF? May 23 20:49:36 # The below line doesn't work, is there a way to remove the file from the -dev.ipk? May 23 20:49:47 # FILES-DEV_${PN} -= "${libdir}/liborcon.la" May 23 20:49:59 that is some serious crack you're smoking May 23 20:50:02 * * OE Bug 2353 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl May 23 20:50:04 * * [Bug 2353] xserver-xorg 1.2.0 package broken May 23 20:50:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2353 May 23 20:50:15 * * OE Bug 1809 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2367 *** by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 23 20:50:16 * * [Bug 1809] GDE under poodle won't suspend right, May 23 20:50:18 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1809 May 23 20:52:04 cbrake: ping May 23 20:52:40 xuumbi: Hi Jim May 23 20:53:59 cbrake: I was wondering if you've seen bad blocks and/or file system read/write errors on any of the cm-x270 boards you've worked with May 23 20:54:26 xuumbi: I had a lot of problems with ext2 on top of the compulab NAND driver May 23 20:54:45 xuumbi: JFFS2 on a 64MB partition has been very solid for me May 23 20:54:49 cbrake: ah, that's our environment right now May 23 20:55:24 cbrake: I'm wondering if ARMmon doesn't check for bad blocks, and the mtd tools do May 23 20:55:54 xuumbi: I ran an automated test where I yanked power while writing to the disk several thousand times and the JFFS2 filesys came through :-) May 23 20:55:58 cbrake: we're seeing lots of intermittent file input/output errors May 23 20:56:08 cbrake: nice May 23 20:56:44 xuumbi: yup, I've seen the same. I'm not exactly sure what is going on, but another compulab customer reported that if you reboot several times it heals itself ??? May 23 20:57:02 * * OE Bug 2370 has been created by r.farina@adelphia.net May 23 20:57:04 * * 802.11 Sniffer and much more! May 23 20:57:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2370 May 23 20:57:08 cbrake: hmmm, I don't know about the reboots, I guess I'll try that the next time I see it May 23 20:57:23 cbrake: tried logfs yet? May 23 20:57:33 koen: no, I've been watching it May 23 20:57:48 cbrake: oh I wanted to ask you, your JFFS2 flashing system, does it pull the image from a thumb drive? May 23 20:57:53 koen: but have not had time to play with it. We really need it for these large NAND parts. May 23 20:59:19 xuumbi: yes. One the schemes I've implemented puts the kernel, NOR rootfs, and NAND fs in a tar file with a MD5 check file, extracts this, updates the kernel and NOR if needed, and then updates the NAND fs. May 23 20:59:49 xuumbi: the tar file is just a file with a special name on a USB disk that the system looks for on boot May 23 21:01:26 cbrake: indeed, once you go above 128MB, jffs2 is a pain May 23 21:01:29 xuumbi: another senario we are looking at getting the update file over a network -- everyone wants something slightly different. May 23 21:01:59 cbrake: logfs also has a *much* better low-space garbage collector algorithm May 23 21:02:28 cbrake: you might have noticed that jffs2 needs a few % free space to stop it from self destructing May 23 21:03:09 logfs needs far less free space to do gc and wearleveling May 23 21:04:02 our boards have 128MB of NAND, so we're on the fence about JFFS2 May 23 21:04:25 but with all the file input/output errors we're having could push us over the edge May 23 21:04:37 jffs2 s pretty decent May 23 21:04:50 yaffs is just too scary May 23 21:05:00 xuumbi: I would put your main rootfs in a 64MB partition or whatever and you data in a second partition. May 23 21:05:23 xuumbi: that way the main rootfs mounts reasonably quickly and you can mount the data partition later in the boot process May 23 21:05:34 cbrake: yes that could be a solution May 23 21:07:59 * cbrake still needs to finish the compulab 2.6.21 update ... May 23 21:09:12 jffs2 also doesn't support >4GB May 23 21:09:26 but I suspect no one would want to use it on 8GB partitions ;) May 23 21:09:41 * koen guesses it will OOM while mounting May 23 21:10:09 koen but it will be fun :) May 23 21:32:41 koen|away: I'd not recommend logfs since its error handling consists of BUG_ON() :/ May 23 21:34:33 hrw|gone: you were looking for me? May 23 21:43:14 someone be my friend, I have a few mtn diff's that beg for commit. May 23 21:46:30 so if someone would be my friend, 2361, 2368, 2369 and 2370 are all mtn diff that are ready for commit May 23 21:46:38 * Zero_Chaos has no friends May 23 21:46:41 * Zero_Chaos cries May 23 21:50:40 Zero_Chaos: you need to patch checksums.ini as well May 23 21:50:50 * Zero_Chaos curses May 23 21:50:54 zecke: say what ? May 23 21:50:55 :-) May 23 21:51:34 I remember someone telling me how to add a checksum to the download SRC_URI, but i totally forget how. May 23 21:51:52 of course that isn't what you said anyway. May 23 21:52:09 Zero_Chaos: #2368, what happens with non arm CPUs? May 23 21:52:33 Zero_Chaos: check conf/checksums.ini and learn by example. provide both md5 and sha256 for downloads May 23 21:52:38 zecke: it compiles using "make" not "make arm" May 23 21:52:55 zecke: yessir. I'll add the checksums May 23 21:53:18 Zero_Chaos: so why is it needed to compile with make arm on ARM May 23 21:53:24 Zero_Chaos: but not make ppc on powerpc? May 23 21:54:46 zecke: it's in the make file, and I think it may only support x86 and ARM May 23 21:54:56 zecke: but I am not certain on that May 23 21:57:30 Zero_Chaos, most of the devs are in EU, so they are out for the evening May 23 21:57:44 I am US, but not at work anymore May 23 21:57:48 must ride bike May 23 21:58:28 Crofton|home: no worries, I'll get to doing what zecke said and add the checksums May 23 21:59:08 Zero_Chaos: I added some more questions to the bug reports, if you work on it, feel free to pester me tomorrow to commit it May 23 21:59:14 why do you need to add a checksum to the bb file? May 23 21:59:51 Crofton|home: checksums.ini May 23 21:59:58 yeah looking May 23 22:00:37 this is to "improve" quality? May 23 22:00:38 Crofton|home: well, projects have the habbit to alter tarballs post a release, and you do not want to ship a binary of a tarball you have not seen May 23 22:00:42 yeah May 23 22:00:44 ok May 23 22:00:59 but if something is not entered, the old behavior appiles? May 23 22:01:17 Crofton|home: old behaviour as in not checking? May 23 22:01:22 yeah May 23 22:01:37 Crofton|home: yes, I would love to disable it soonish :) May 23 22:01:42 it would calculate a check sum:) May 23 22:01:44 or soemthing May 23 22:01:51 There are some aspects with checksums May 23 22:01:57 I'll make a note to add checksums for things I care about May 23 22:02:45 sorry, I'm too tired... May 23 22:02:59 1AM over there? May 23 22:03:09 or 2 for you? May 23 22:03:11 no, 0:0 May 23 22:03:21 but I think this was a tough day May 23 22:03:42 well I need to ride, gn May 23 22:09:50 re May 23 22:09:55 rwhitby: yes. May 23 22:10:19 rwhitby: wanted to know how goes angstrom for nslu2 May 23 22:12:16 there is a mokoslug distro, which is a cut-down angstrom which boots on nslu2 (or at least it used to - haven't tested it for a while). I (or someone else) need to find time to merge that stuff back into Angstrom proper (it's not very much) so that Angstrom will build for small flash devices. The new task-base stuff should have made that much easier. May 23 22:12:57 rwhitby: ok. May 23 22:13:21 rwhitby: slug under my desk is waiting for hdd which is on desk and now runs openslug May 23 22:13:55 also, altboot is not integrated into Angstrom for the slug yet, so there is no turnup replacement yet. May 23 22:14:36 rwhitby: and no access to bootloader without making serial cable? May 23 22:15:05 you can load via reset button method and upslug2 - completely safe May 23 22:15:18 rwhitby: I know - thats how I put openslug on it May 23 22:16:04 rwhitby: can slug hold tftpd/cups/bt-ap/nfs server in one time? May 23 22:16:24 it can if it's running openwrt ;-) May 23 22:16:48 are you talking about internal flash, or just processing power and ram? May 23 22:16:52 I do not care about openwrt May 23 22:16:58 power/ram May 23 22:17:09 I will have 40GB hdd connected May 23 22:17:12 the openwrt jibe was just about fitting stuff in internal flash :-) May 23 22:17:29 dunno about cups - all the rest are low memory footprint May 23 22:17:54 I've done tftpd and bt-ap together before with minimal ram usage May 23 22:18:29 give it a try and see ... May 23 22:18:43 I need tftpd for one devboard here May 23 22:19:33 main reason for slug is nfs and tftpd now May 23 22:19:44 bt-ap and cups are extras May 23 22:35:20 cu May 23 22:43:39 is there a variable that points to /usr/share? May 23 22:44:43 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rad5421a4... 10/ (1 conf/distro/opendreambox.conf): conf/distro/opendreambox.conf: disable getty on normal ttys May 23 22:45:13 Zero_Chaos: ${datadir} May 23 22:45:30 thanks May 23 22:47:17 oplinux-packages.bb doesn't parse, boo May 23 22:47:25 I think someone was fixing that though May 23 22:47:56 I think it was fixed. May 23 22:48:03 update your OE tree May 23 22:48:09 * Laibsch is doing just that right now May 23 22:48:56 Laibsch: i can't right now, i made a million changes and are not compatible and I don't feel like reverting until my stuff is added ;-) May 23 22:49:38 Zero_Chaos: you can update workspace with mtn when you have own added/changed files May 23 22:50:05 hrw|gone: this is all a bit new to me, I'll just keep it simple for right now ;-) May 23 22:50:18 Zero_Chaos: That is why we use mtn, after all May 23 22:50:36 It will not overwrite your changes May 23 22:51:15 Laibsch: I know I know, my point is, I don't understand it right now, like at all, but I need to fix some other requests that are more pressing. the parse error doesn't stop work ;-) May 23 22:52:31 that is of course true. And I do understand the feeling May 23 22:52:37 Never touch a running system May 23 22:53:13 Zero_Chaos: I think if you replace the tab with four spaces in the offending line the parse error will go away :) May 23 22:53:31 hvontres|poodle: no worries May 23 22:53:38 time to go home now :) May 23 22:53:46 got to run, free preview of "Knocked Up" May 23 22:53:47 later all May 23 22:57:19 hmmm May 23 22:57:39 sounds like he has his priorities in order May 23 23:31:02 * * OE Bug 2354 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by antti.andreimann@mail.ee May 23 23:31:04 * * [Bug 2354] xf86-input-keyboard 1.2.0 needs xserver May 23 23:31:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2354 May 23 23:32:55 koen You're my hero :) Thanx for fixin xorg packages, now I can get rid of my own modifications in our local tree. May 23 23:33:31 However I'm a dedicated pain in the butt, if You could also fix mesa build on FC6 (another silly, but easy fix) I'd owe You two more beers ;) http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2363 May 24 00:42:48 what is the setting for the DISTRO variable for angstrom? May 24 00:59:38 hi May 24 01:00:32 "bash: /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/bitbake/bin/bitbake: /usr/bin/env: bad interpreter: Permission denied" how do I fix this? May 24 01:00:44 running bitbake as user, but when I run env python as user it works fine May 24 02:52:47 Hi, all! May 24 02:52:59 Am I alone here? May 24 02:57:02 * * OE Bug 2371 has been created by begemot999@gmail.com May 24 02:57:04 * * checkroot.sh from initscripts do not work in some cases May 24 02:57:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2371 May 24 02:59:13 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 24 02:59:57 2007