**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 04 02:59:56 2007 Jun 04 07:33:48 morning Jun 04 07:40:47 morning all Jun 04 07:44:31 morning Jun 04 07:58:25 good morning all Jun 04 07:58:43 ~lart blog spam Jun 04 07:58:44 * ibot puts blog spam into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of blog spam's hair of Jun 04 07:58:56 XorA: I told you: SpamKarma plugin Jun 04 07:59:25 hrw: not wordpress anymore, I just wonder why they keep spamming blog even though there is no chance of the comments staying Jun 04 07:59:48 ~hail nvidia Jun 04 07:59:50 * ibot bows down to nvidia and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 04 08:03:10 XorA: http://drupal.org/project/spam Jun 04 08:04:14 koen: yeah, got that installed, just annoys me that some mongs who deserve the full 6months in jail for each offence keep hammering my server Jun 04 08:06:53 I like moinmoins antispam system Jun 04 08:07:19 * XorA is tempted to require a credit card and billing address to post Jun 04 08:34:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r423c5257... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xanadux*: add compatible machine Jun 04 09:17:17 heh Jun 04 09:17:31 a spam message on OE-devel with subject "arm9/linux" Jun 04 09:18:01 koen: smart spam ;) Jun 04 09:22:09 * XorA suspects the spam bots also steal keywords from websites they steal the addresses from Jun 04 09:24:27 * XorA is lacking in food Jun 04 09:27:24 koen, aren't these qt danglings links by default? I mean, putting .so link into -dev and target into whatever other runtime package? If not, what packaging is intended? Jun 04 09:30:46 *.so.* in ${PN} and *.so in ${PN}-dev iirc Jun 04 09:30:49 see bitbake.conf Jun 04 09:32:06 koen, ah, you mean that * in *-dev should match the PN? Jun 04 09:32:21 ehm Jun 04 09:32:24 sort off Jun 04 09:32:32 ok. Jun 04 09:32:41 every lib package needs to have its own -dev and -dbg Jun 04 09:33:08 but I meant: Jun 04 09:33:14 FILES_${PN} = "${bindir}/* ${sbindir}/* ${libexecdir}/* ${libdir}/lib*.so.* \ Jun 04 09:33:35 Well, we have lib.* split into several packages and only one -dev. Jun 04 09:33:37 FILES_${PN}-dev = [..] ${libdir}/lib*.so Jun 04 09:33:48 (in qt) Jun 04 09:33:55 so I need to add some more -devs Jun 04 09:34:11 lib*.so.* that is. Jun 04 09:34:23 and put *.so.* in the main package and only *.so and *.pc in -dev pa Jun 04 09:34:25 ckages Jun 04 09:34:32 * koen stabs his typing skills Jun 04 09:34:45 ah, you suggest that we put all libs into one package? Not splitting them? Jun 04 09:35:03 no, but alls libs in a seperate package (like it is now) Jun 04 09:35:22 so, the same should go for libsomething-dbg then. Jun 04 09:35:29 yes Jun 04 09:35:37 ok Jun 04 09:36:19 hmm... looks like the image lacks g-ether.. Jun 04 09:37:00 no, i doesn't... Jun 04 09:38:08 hmm... it has /lib/modules/2.6.20.6-*-dirty/ directory and the kernel isn't dirty.. Jun 04 09:39:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6ba793f4... 10/ (1 conf/machine/gumstix.conf): gumstix.conf: fix up a bit Jun 04 09:45:13 file /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-x11-free-4.3.0-r0/image/usr/bin/moc Jun 04 09:45:26 ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped Jun 04 09:46:52 :-)) Thanks. Jun 04 09:50:30 * koen hugs insane.bbclass Jun 04 09:51:27 why didn't it tell me the whole truth? :) Jun 04 09:51:52 koen, I think Luis may have been testing glibc-2.6 per one of your earler emails Jun 04 09:54:26 polyonymous: it would be nice if insane reported something like "ERROR: Architecture did not match ('x86-linux', expected to 'arm-linux-gnueabi')" Jun 04 09:54:56 koen, I thought that was what it's done to you. Jun 04 09:55:25 yes, but with the numerical values Jun 04 09:56:09 ah ok Jun 04 09:57:25 package_qa_get_machine_dict doesn't make is easy to do backward lookups Jun 04 10:00:09 kde4 gets nearer to Angstrom :-) Jun 04 10:43:41 hi thesing Jun 04 10:43:58 hi woglinde Jun 04 10:47:44 hi thesing Jun 04 10:48:12 hi hrw, found time to test suspend on colllie? Jun 04 10:48:25 hi hrw Jun 04 10:51:10 no, forgot about it Jun 04 10:59:18 polyonymous: http://rafb.net/p/fVNoG489.html Jun 04 10:59:42 hi koen Jun 04 10:59:46 hey woglinde Jun 04 11:05:49 thesing: how up to date is OE with your patches? Jun 04 11:06:35 koen: it contains everything but the suspend patches. see #2323 Jun 04 11:07:50 koen: it seems we should not build usb-gadget modules for collie atm as they are broken and suspend doen't work if they are loaded. Jun 04 11:08:41 could you attach an updated patch that does that? Jun 04 11:10:41 yes. Jun 04 11:13:16 does usbnet work when they're loaded? Jun 04 11:13:42 thesing: Can I use a new kernel without reflashing? Jun 04 11:13:53 Or is it easier to just reflash? Jun 04 11:13:59 polyonymous: no not on collie Jun 04 11:14:14 thesing, ah ok. Jun 04 11:15:37 thesing: You wanted me to test suspend, right? Jun 04 11:15:48 Laibsch: It should work. At most you'll have to replace the modules. But not this time. Jun 04 11:15:52 Laibsch: right Jun 04 11:16:30 hi laibsch Jun 04 11:17:48 hey woglinde Jun 04 11:19:15 thesing which gadet driver is collie using? Jun 04 11:19:59 woglinde: SA1100 Jun 04 11:20:22 ??? Jun 04 11:20:38 hm 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? Jun 04 11:21:07 2.6 Jun 04 11:21:44 where did the pachtes came from? Jun 04 11:22:52 I don't know. They were already included in OE-build collie kernels when I started. Jun 04 11:23:50 hm which package it is in oe? Jun 04 11:24:02 linux-rp_2.6.20.bb Jun 04 11:24:41 http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tkunze/zaurus/patches/sa1100-udc-r2.patch Jun 04 11:25:11 This is the patch. Jun 04 11:25:18 woglinde: they came from LAKML Jun 04 11:25:32 woglinde: then Dirk Opfer edited it, then Thomas Jun 04 11:26:30 nice Jun 04 11:26:34 why noby tells me Jun 04 11:26:42 so simpad gets prober usbsupport Jun 04 11:27:23 hrw: I didn't do anything with them yet. I didn't even test them. But gremlin did for some ipaq and they didn't work. Jun 04 11:28:02 thesing: you have it in own dir so.. Jun 04 11:30:01 Well I will look at usbgadget after I the sound stuff is finished. Jun 04 11:30:26 thesing uh Jun 04 11:30:29 thesing: udc only or buzzer too? Jun 04 11:30:32 mcp sound support? Jun 04 11:32:05 hrw, woglinde: I currently learn alsa-soc but since there is already mcp code in the kernel I will do this first. Jun 04 11:32:21 hrw: This means buzzer first. Jun 04 11:32:50 thesing maybee mrdata,mr_nice can help you some collie and simpad shares a lot off the hardware Jun 04 11:33:33 thesing: Want me to force the collie into suspend or just let it go to sleep by itself? Jun 04 11:33:43 BTW, login over serial cable works fine now, too. Jun 04 11:33:52 It did not on the previous kernel I baked Jun 04 11:34:11 oh Jun 04 11:34:14 I have to go Jun 04 11:34:17 bye for now Jun 04 11:34:23 lunch is coming Jun 04 11:34:37 Laibsch: Better force it to suspend. Try also with the cancel key. Jun 04 11:35:22 Laibsch: there seems to be a bug in the framebuffer driver: it the console blank, the collie mostly freezes. Jun 04 11:39:31 brb Jun 04 11:41:05 thesing: Do you have a serial cable? Jun 04 11:41:49 thesing: Command issued over the serial cable failed: http://rafb.net/p/BtgSg493.html Jun 04 11:41:59 Laibsch: Yes. A flat one from serialIO. You can actually use the collie keyboard with them. Jun 04 11:42:12 * Laibsch is envious now ;-) Jun 04 11:42:35 Laibsch: unload the sa1x00-udc module. Jun 04 11:42:41 Laibsch: serialIO does not work with spitz ;) Jun 04 11:43:01 * Laibsch feels better now ;-) Jun 04 11:43:12 *g* Jun 04 11:44:19 Laibsch: can you file down the sharp cable? Jun 04 11:44:36 file down = send? Jun 04 11:44:52 Laibsch: file down as in same operation you do to prison bars to excape Jun 04 11:44:53 file down = send a file over the cable? Jun 04 11:45:08 Oh, I see Jun 04 11:45:20 * XorA doesnt know the german/japanese for file Jun 04 11:45:21 XorA: I doubt it Jun 04 11:45:34 datei and ファイル Jun 04 11:45:46 ファイル is just pronounced file ;-) Jun 04 11:45:53 fairu Jun 04 11:46:01 ファイル amazingly comes out wow Jun 04 11:46:14 * XorA isnt used to this UTF-8 stuff working Jun 04 11:46:37 * XorA needs to learn japanese to save himself reading fansubs Jun 04 11:46:40 yes, in a lot ways we are still living in the middle ages Jun 04 11:46:41 XorA: do you know if anyone tried this - using eboot you can flash an image starting at address zero, thus overwriting eboot... I wonder if I can use that to get reboot on the board :> turned out we do not have JTAG hardware that would be able to deal with arm11 Jun 04 11:47:03 thesing: Such module is not loaded: http://rafb.net/p/vvRSts10.html Jun 04 11:47:49 Jin^eLD: no idea, I wonder if haret can boot linux from wince on mx31ads Jun 04 11:48:04 haret? Jun 04 11:48:15 Jin^eLD: what the ipaq guys use to get kernel in Jun 04 11:48:24 s/in/running/ Jun 04 11:48:34 aah, interesting, let me take a look at that Jun 04 11:49:28 Laibsch: Hm. seems that module is compiled into the kernel. Jun 04 11:49:51 I will update the attachment on 2323 soon. Jun 04 11:49:56 ~seen psokolovsky Jun 04 11:50:14 hi, all! Jun 04 11:50:39 psokolovsky was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 19h 33m 28s ago, saying: 'cr2: did you ever tried stuff in mach-sa11xx/usb/? does it work?'. Jun 04 12:03:22 koen, Laibsch: updated attachment on bug 2323 Jun 04 12:03:54 Laibsch: could you rebuild and test again with the new patch? Jun 04 12:07:35 03thommy 07org.oe.dev * r48b3ebe8... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp 2.6.20: add collie suspend patches from OE bug #2323 Jun 04 12:09:30 steliosk, ping Jun 04 12:10:07 thesing: Sure Jun 04 12:10:10 On its way Jun 04 12:10:47 thesing: Seeing you made a commit; I guess "mtn pull;mtn up" should already do it, right? Jun 04 12:11:08 right. Jun 04 12:13:43 koen, what did you mean by adding # Remove me comment? Does it mean it's safe to remove or that it should be made safe to remove? :) Jun 04 12:14:19 it should be made safe to remove :) Jun 04 12:14:27 not everyone builds for arm Jun 04 12:14:32 arm-eabi even Jun 04 12:14:33 ah. ok. Jun 04 12:14:43 but does it hurt those who don't? Jun 04 12:15:52 thesing: Should I reverse-apply http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1507 first? Jun 04 12:16:04 Laibsch: Yes Jun 04 12:16:32 or just mtn revert packages/linux Jun 04 12:20:04 btw: I have an angstrom-x11-image running on collie with root on sd. Jun 04 12:23:34 thesing: nice Jun 04 12:24:02 thesing: how does looks mainline integration? Jun 04 12:24:50 morning Jun 04 12:25:25 hey chouimat Jun 04 12:27:40 thesing: kexec or altboot? Jun 04 12:28:04 or straight install to SD? Jun 04 12:29:01 hrw: You mean into mainline kernel? I plan to get all things working, and than clean them up to mainline submission. Jun 04 12:29:29 Laibsch: I compiled a kernel with different CMDLINE and started it with kexec. Jun 04 12:30:37 thesing: all things at once as patch series? Jun 04 12:32:16 hrw: No patch after patch. Jun 04 12:32:43 hrw: Is simply more fun getting things working than cleaning things up ;) Jun 04 12:32:58 ;) Jun 04 12:40:53 hi mickeyl Jun 04 12:42:31 Crofton : hi Jun 04 12:46:33 BBS Jun 04 12:49:30 hey mickeyl Jun 04 12:52:47 hi! Jun 04 12:57:26 * koen looks at recent openmoko svn commits and cries Jun 04 12:57:41 there is no way to implement that in a non-hackish way in OE :( Jun 04 12:57:57 koen: which commit? Jun 04 12:58:36 XorA: virtually all commits to their OE overlay from last month Jun 04 12:59:00 koen: tis ok, we have Angstrom to make it neat Jun 04 12:59:25 * koen wishes for more time Jun 04 12:59:40 hi Jun 04 12:59:58 XorA: I'm affraid it also means openmoko will never merge, and will fork off soon after to stop us cracking SHA1 Jun 04 13:00:24 koen: oh yeah, we should make our SHA1 cracker faster Jun 04 13:04:14 hey vivijim Jun 04 13:04:23 hi koen Jun 04 13:04:39 relax Jun 04 13:04:45 steliosk, still here? Jun 04 13:04:53 it's "make it work, then make it good" Jun 04 13:05:01 heh Jun 04 13:05:04 i'm glad we have the overlay Jun 04 13:05:11 i would never commit this to main OE Jun 04 13:05:12 :D Jun 04 13:05:12 except people always forget to go back and make it good Jun 04 13:05:20 Crofton: I'll stay here to remember :) Jun 04 13:05:25 :) Jun 04 13:05:42 * Crofton is stuck making some software that works, good Jun 04 13:05:45 barely works Jun 04 13:05:49 * hrw needs to buy second core to cpu.. Jun 04 13:06:03 3 builds at same time kills (poky, openmoko, angstrom) Jun 04 13:06:39 I'm not happy with a single build when it builds qt :) Jun 04 13:06:49 Well, it doesn't kill anything, but takes a while :) Jun 04 13:07:13 polyonymous: it kills me - machine starts to be sluggish Jun 04 13:07:39 hrw, yes, I understand. My machine is fine, but the build itself takes a long. Even with pch on. Jun 04 13:07:44 i got some error when i run Xfbdev Jun 04 13:07:47 LinuxInit: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory) Jun 04 13:07:52 * mwester heard that one can purchase chips at very low prices from companies such as FritoLay: http://www.fritolay.com/fl/flstore/cgi-bin/products.htm? Jun 04 13:07:53 help Jun 04 13:08:26 mwester: cheese ones for me Jun 04 13:08:29 mwester, but if you put system on a chip, it may get squashed. Jun 04 13:08:43 and you won't get a replacement. Jun 04 13:08:43 it was fine when i boot from flash, but not nfsroot Jun 04 13:09:00 crink: put /dev/ on tmpfs? Jun 04 13:09:03 crink, probably, you have troubles with device nodes on nfs filesystem? Jun 04 13:09:32 Crofton: and it has to work good on arm and powerpc? Jun 04 13:09:43 hrw: i don't know what you mean. Jun 04 13:09:53 of course :) Jun 04 13:09:56 and x86 Jun 04 13:10:02 crink: you boot from nfs and have /dev/ problems Jun 04 13:10:32 hrw: should i have to make tty0? Jun 04 13:10:58 though /dev/tty0 is exists, but i can't see it on rootfs. Jun 04 13:11:21 crink: 2.6 kernel + udev + tmpfs == solution probably Jun 04 13:12:04 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 4, 0 2007-05-25 14:09 /tftpboot/XXXXXXXXXXXX/dev/tty0 Jun 04 13:12:09 Crofton : yep Jun 04 13:12:24 looks ok. Jun 04 13:12:29 * hrw need to go Jun 04 13:12:34 hrw: bye Jun 04 13:12:40 did you get your efika through the dev program? Jun 04 13:12:58 They are interested in my project Jun 04 13:13:19 and seemed glad to hear someone was giving an OE talk at the conference Jun 04 13:13:31 hrw, polyonymous: thx Jun 04 13:14:06 Crofton : yes through the dev program. I have emailed them about the power.org conference Jun 04 13:14:21 cool Jun 04 13:14:54 after this week, talk to me about what kind of input you would like Jun 04 13:16:11 well i am trying to find out any board that has a ppc and is using OE (in one form or the other) and what are people doing with it Jun 04 13:16:15 btw, i sent the patch to mallum (saturday 2007/06/02) Jun 04 13:16:44 steliosk: my efika :) Jun 04 13:17:26 Hope to get our customer to let me release the Xilinx stuff also. They were not that happy when i first asked them... Jun 04 13:17:31 http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/project/efika/309 Jun 04 13:18:16 polyonymous: I am getting "NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (2595/4618) [56 %]ERROR: Error Method already seen: qt_arch in' qt4-x11-free_4.1.2.bb' now in 'qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb'" after then latest pull. Maybe you want to take a look Jun 04 13:18:31 Laibsch, yup, this is known, see bug 1914 Jun 04 13:18:37 OK Jun 04 13:18:43 polyonymous: move qt_atch to one file so bitbake will see it once Jun 04 13:18:52 hrw|gone, like .inc? Jun 04 13:19:01 yes Jun 04 13:19:06 ok. Will do later today. Jun 04 13:19:15 thanks for the suggestion. Jun 04 13:19:23 Laibsch, for now it is safe to ignore. Jun 04 13:19:31 And I'm outta here, laters all. Jun 04 13:26:51 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9601d0f2... 10/ (1 packages/liba52/liba52_0.7.4.bb): liba52: create debug packages (from Poky) Jun 04 14:04:02 * * OE Bug 2412 has been created by rodrigo.vivi@gmail.com Jun 04 14:04:04 * * dpkg-deb failing when package name contains character '/' Jun 04 14:04:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2412 Jun 04 14:08:07 vivijim: which package has such char in name? Jun 04 14:08:57 hrw: sorry, I forget to mention that... I had this problem with libx11 Jun 04 14:09:22 virtual/libx11? Jun 04 14:09:30 yes Jun 04 14:10:06 this was the name... Jun 04 14:10:20 I'm adding an additional comment in the bug Jun 04 14:10:32 vivijim: weird that this was given to package util instead of libx11-6 Jun 04 14:11:45 hrw: sorry, what do you mean? Jun 04 14:12:42 vivijim: did you distro inherit debian class? Jun 04 14:12:48 to use debian renaming Jun 04 14:12:54 hrw: yes Jun 04 14:13:23 hrw: INHERIT += "package_deb debian" Jun 04 14:14:31 should work.. I am not familiar too much with deb packaging Jun 04 14:14:31 hrw: /dev/tty0 problem turned out that i didn't check VT in kernel. Jun 04 14:14:36 vivijim: try to revert order Jun 04 14:14:42 it solved now. Jun 04 14:15:28 hrw: uhm I'll try that... Thanks Jun 04 14:17:29 vivijim: ah... now I see problem ; Jun 04 14:17:58 hrw: what is it? Jun 04 14:18:22 hi, who's the epia/mythtv distro maintainer ? Jun 04 14:19:06 vivijim: the problem where it is Jun 04 14:23:04 Laibsch: Did you test the new kernel yet ? Jun 04 14:33:51 hrw: and where is it? BTW: just reverting the order didn't work Jun 04 14:34:19 vivijim: I just read your bugreport. Jun 04 14:35:58 hrw: uhm.. got it.. You saw the problem, not the solution ;) Jun 04 14:55:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r80b03b9b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: rework PREFERRED_PROVIDER syntax to gain some flexibility Jun 04 15:12:26 I am working on the task build an image Jun 04 15:12:36 should it have DEPENDS, or RPDEPENDS Jun 04 15:12:59 I think DEPENDS only, since this says what is needed to build the image Jun 04 15:14:25 Crofton|laptop | Depends is for bitbake RDEPENDS is for ipkg, this is how i distinguish them Jun 04 15:14:38 ok Jun 04 15:14:48 so ipkg does not see tasks Jun 04 15:15:01 one day I need to understand tasks and images :) Jun 04 15:15:05 and how they relate Jun 04 15:18:39 Crofton|laptop: tasks only have RDEPENDS Jun 04 15:18:48 arg Jun 04 15:18:53 Now I am confused Jun 04 15:19:17 I had RDEPNDS, but things weren't getting built Jun 04 15:20:19 this is moving in a next week kind of thing Jun 04 15:20:53 hmm.. I craeted an own repo with an own package feed, so stuff can be upgraded via ipkg update/upgrade; but the upgrade does not quite work out, I have some packages that are freshly checked out from svn each time they are being build (i.e. srcdate=now), to make sure the revision is upped I do PR="r${DATETIME}" but ipkg upgrade ignores them Jun 04 15:20:56 any ideas? Jun 04 15:21:15 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rc4955c0c... 10/ (1 packages/salsa-lib packages/salsa-lib/salsa-lib_0.0.1.bb): salsa-lib/salsa-lib_0.0.1.bb : small alsa-lib for embedded use Jun 04 15:21:20 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rf4c8ae33... 10/ (1 packages/salsa-lib/salsa-lib_0.0.1.bb): salsa-lib/salsa-lib_0.0.1.bb : fix typoes add LICENSE and SECTION Jun 04 15:30:22 Jin^eLD: Did you re-build the package index? Jun 04 15:30:45 hvontres|poodle: doesn't that happen automaticaly when the rootfs image is generated? Jun 04 15:30:53 ok.. I guess no then.. how is that done? Jun 04 15:31:31 Jin^eLD: are you using tmp/deploy as your feed or are you moving stuff around? Jun 04 15:32:04 tmp/deploy which is then copied to another place Jun 04 15:32:07 but its a 1:1 copy Jun 04 15:32:10 old stuff is removed Jun 04 15:33:11 so basically I rm -rf my webserver dir, then buildbot rebuilds the image with result getting into deploy, and deploy/ipk is simply copied to the feed location Jun 04 15:33:25 is that not the right way to it? Jun 04 15:33:26 XorA: heh, I thought salsa was a typo :) Jun 04 15:34:21 Jin^eLD: see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/VersioningPolicy on how to avoid versioning problems Jun 04 15:34:32 thx, will have a look Jun 04 15:35:07 but is my feed approach as such ok? Jun 04 15:35:42 XorA: shouldn't alsa-libs now RRPEPLACE salsa-libs? Jun 04 15:35:51 koen: no Jun 04 15:36:04 koen: difference soname, but re-uses alsa.pc Jun 04 15:36:09 ah, ok Jun 04 15:36:18 so it only fucks you /tmp Jun 04 15:38:35 XorA: that's actually a pretty clever trick, re-using alsa.pc Jun 04 15:38:49 XorA: do we need virtual/alsalib now? Jun 04 15:39:26 koen: nah, no-one has even tested it :-) Jun 04 15:43:21 uuh.. so I read that deploy/ipk is not and should not be used as a feed? Jun 04 15:43:27 that explains my problem I guess.. Jun 04 15:49:09 hey mickeyl & pH5 Jun 04 15:49:28 hey koen & mickeyl Jun 04 16:07:27 doh.. somehow I can't find the info.. so if deploy/ipk is not supposed to be used as a feed, how do I create a feed? Jun 04 16:14:56 Jin^eLD: I think there were some example feed-creation scripts in org.openembedded.dev/contrib Jun 04 16:15:14 let me have a look.. thanks.. Jun 04 16:17:23 Jin^eLD: oops, nevermind... Jun 04 16:17:46 uhm, not there? Jun 04 16:18:01 feed browser is probably something different Jun 04 16:18:22 thesing: Still compiling. I have to recompile some very basic stuff so it is taking a while. Jun 04 16:24:35 Jin^eLD : in the simplest form you need to have a script to re-index the packages in the feed Jun 04 16:25:02 steliosk: do you know any examples, something I could look at? Jun 04 16:25:44 Jin^eLD: take a look at this script : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/split Jun 04 16:27:00 Jin^eLD: it looks like you copy tmp/deploy//ipkg to unsorted and run the script Jun 04 16:27:20 *looking* Jun 04 16:27:42 Jin^eLD : this is what i am using -> http://rafb.net/p/s4ihne22.html Jun 04 16:28:40 steliosk: and how does your newindex.sh look? Jun 04 16:28:54 hvontres|poodle: I think it comes down to the ipkg-make-index thing Jun 04 16:29:01 and then in every dir you need an new-index.sh script which is this -> http://rafb.net/p/0mHeCW25.html Jun 04 16:29:08 Jin^eLD: I think you are right :) Jun 04 16:29:34 thanks guys! Jun 04 16:29:47 Jin^eLD: np. Jun 04 16:30:00 Jin^eLD: BTW, are you still running on FC6? Jun 04 16:30:25 hvontres|poodle: I have FC7 on my notebook, but its an old piece of crap so I did not try OE there Jun 04 16:30:33 on my work machine I still have FC6, yes Jun 04 16:30:54 but I kept binary locale generation disabled, if you remind the qemu issue Jun 04 16:31:55 Jin^eLD: OK. I just wanted to know if there was somebody else out there I could bounce stuff off of if I decide to dig into that problem again :) Jun 04 16:32:09 :) Jun 04 16:32:12 Jin^eLD: is FC7 worth the upgrade? Jun 04 16:32:38 hvontres|poodle: depends if they already provide a newer kernel ;) the stock one that comes with the distro has a bug Jun 04 16:33:21 I bought a new hdd for the notebook and got a little more ram, so I thought what the hell, lets try it.. seems ok but I think it would be better to wait a little Jun 04 16:33:26 * hvontres|poodle usually waits 6 months, upgrades and then goes to bed while running yum -y upgrade :) Jun 04 16:33:53 :) Jun 04 16:38:27 hi all Jun 04 16:47:25 hi mrdata. did you already get sound on simpad working? Jun 04 16:57:35 thesing: hi, no sorry Jun 04 16:58:41 thesing: i know you study doc for alsa-soc now ;-) Jun 04 16:59:13 cu Jun 04 17:00:48 thesing: i must do the same first Jun 04 17:17:04 thesing: have you gotten anywhere on trying to add cmdline support to kexec? Jun 04 17:20:24 hvontres|poodle: I didn't code anything. I just researched what would be necessary to support cmdlines. Jun 04 17:49:35 germans have cool words for development stuff Jun 04 17:49:50 briefbeschwerer Jun 04 17:56:46 I just got an email saying: "Your order has shipped via UPS" Jun 04 17:57:10 ups tells me it was shipped *3 days ago* Jun 04 17:57:30 the package _almost_ arrived before the e-mail Jun 04 17:59:01 koen: your too young probably to rember the days that it used to take 7 days to email Jun 04 17:59:35 yeah Jun 04 18:00:08 when straying JCB's could disconnect .eu from .ue Jun 04 18:00:14 s/ue/us/ Jun 04 18:00:28 He's also to young to remember the days before internet package tracking Jun 04 18:00:52 I do remember the days before internet :) Jun 04 18:00:53 Crofton_: the days when you used to phone after parcel hadnt arrived for 4 weeks Jun 04 18:01:09 * koen builds a steeeenking oabi toolchain Jun 04 18:01:25 I remember when telephones had round dials Jun 04 18:01:55 Crofton_: I remember when BT used to measure the number of phones on a line and charge you extra for having more than one Jun 04 18:02:03 what I don't get is that the parcel is ~70km away and ups estimates that will takes 3 days Jun 04 18:02:19 and telecom connecters were quater of an inch across Jun 04 18:07:03 chouimat: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/06/04/1630233.shtml Jun 04 18:09:28 koen I'm not suprised ... the jerk did something to same his ass :) Jun 04 18:17:05 koen this one is good http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=237297&cid=19383879 Jun 04 18:18:28 well, bruce is a shill himself Jun 04 18:19:08 koen I know but he got some point in xandros case :) Jun 04 18:41:30 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rc79ec6e4... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap1-2.6.20-omap1/defconfig.eabi): linux-omap1-2.6.20-omap1/defconfig.eabi : Add support for USB serial dongles. Jun 04 18:41:35 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r5c787b0d... 10/ (18 files in 3 dirs): Jun 04 18:41:35 OSSIE : Remove OSSIE files until there is a real tarball release. If you need Jun 04 18:41:35 to access these files, they are avilable from Philip (Crofton) Balister. Jun 04 18:41:35 Currently, I am working with a BB Collection kept on a svn server. Jun 04 18:47:06 ~change 18000 yen to EUR Jun 04 18:48:07 koen about 100€ Jun 04 18:48:12 120 Jun 04 18:48:31 thanks Jun 04 18:48:39 ~change 18000 jpy to eur Jun 04 18:48:45 * koen tests ibot Jun 04 18:49:20 that's a bit steep for http://www.kindai-inc.co.jp/mount_omeos.htm Jun 04 18:50:21 koen what is it a camera adapter ? Jun 04 18:50:49 rshakin: an adaptor to mount old olympus lenses to a canon camera Jun 04 18:52:31 or, what I want to do, attach this to my camera: http://www.alanwood.net/photography/olympus/auto-bellows.html Jun 04 18:53:23 since bellows are &*@&$*@ expensive these days Jun 04 19:12:54 uh... Just got back. qt build took real 80m3.157s. I'm glad I wasn't home :) Jun 04 19:14:09 I wonder if it was really slower without pch Jun 04 19:36:39 polyonymous: but it builds fine? Jun 04 19:38:16 thesing, so far so good, I'm yet to test the functionality, though :) Jun 04 19:38:48 thesing, ***MEMORY-ERROR***: [1793]: GSlice: failed to allocate 248 bytes (alignment: 256): Invalid argument Jun 04 19:38:48 :) Jun 04 19:41:22 I think I'm in for yet another 80 minutes :) Jun 04 19:45:31 gslice? Jun 04 19:45:44 you can set an env var to make is use another malloc Jun 04 19:46:08 try 'export G_SLICE=always-malloc' Jun 04 19:46:39 Hi everyone, did some of you played around with kernel 2.6.21 in OE already ? Just got stucked a few days ago to apply a patch from RP which seems to work only with 2.6.21. See http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2306 Jun 04 20:12:07 koen, works perfectly. I think I should -no-glib? Jun 04 20:14:52 polyonymous: seems like it, till qt gets update to handle gslice Jun 04 20:15:05 yup. I'm already rebuilding. Jun 04 20:15:44 and now demos work, I'll have to reboot my machine (I mean build one) and then I will commit. Well, maybe even sooner Jun 04 20:16:58 it should be easy to fix qt, but -no-glib is easier :) Jun 04 20:17:36 right, I don't feel like fixing it atm, but I may well get back to it later. Jun 04 20:18:01 I'm pretty sure there would a patch for it in the bugtracker Jun 04 20:18:14 lots of gtk apps had the same problem Jun 04 20:18:47 maybe it's glib that should be patched then? :) Jun 04 20:23:28 no, glib change to a new (and better) malloc 2 years ago or so Jun 04 20:23:44 it sometimes causes troubles with legacy apps Jun 04 20:24:03 it is supposed to save a truckload of ram and reduce malloc() calls Jun 04 20:24:18 aha, I see. Well, worth fixing then, probably. Jun 04 21:16:28 hi, anyone tried building klimt recently? Jun 04 21:16:39 looks like it's somehow broken ... Jun 04 21:17:52 hi Jun 04 21:17:59 hi chouimat Jun 04 21:21:24 hi choiumat Jun 04 21:24:32 hi polyonymous Jun 04 21:24:39 hi Jun 04 21:25:27 ok ... nevermind ... patch for klimt in progress Jun 04 21:26:01 Klimt? Gustav Klimmt? :) Jun 04 21:27:44 re thesing Jun 04 21:28:21 polyonymous, that opengl imitation for opie ;) Jun 04 21:28:32 uh Jun 04 21:30:20 I was looking at that qtopia free once again ... it sux :S Jun 04 21:30:43 what doesn't? Jun 04 21:31:17 well ... first I thought it was pretty nice, but in second look I found out it doesnt contain nearly anything Jun 04 21:31:18 marex???? Jun 04 21:31:33 you mean the closed apps from tt? Jun 04 21:32:10 TT? you mean those model railways? Jun 04 21:32:25 no trolltech Jun 04 21:33:23 marex which version? Jun 04 21:34:05 4.2 or something like that Jun 04 21:34:16 it's solely for development of greenphone apps :S Jun 04 21:34:21 marex so what are you missing? Jun 04 21:34:22 Marex: I have a project to port kdelib to qtopia Jun 04 21:34:24 ????? Jun 04 21:35:00 Marex: you mean this qtopia-opensource-src-4.2.2.tar.gz ? Jun 04 21:35:00 Marex: Qtopia is a lot more then just greenphone. You must have gotten the greenphone sdk or something Jun 04 21:35:15 chouimat, yes Jun 04 21:35:27 yeah greenphone is limited Jun 04 21:35:29 thats right Jun 04 21:35:36 * bipolar just got his KDE SVN account this morning Jun 04 21:35:41 Marex: I got it working on my zaurus ... and my dreamcast Jun 04 21:35:44 yup ... and that qtopia-opensource is useless for PDA Jun 04 21:35:52 chouimat, really? :o Jun 04 21:36:00 and you get the greenphone apps only when you paying Jun 04 21:36:04 chouimat, how was it ? Jun 04 21:36:08 marex what? Jun 04 21:36:16 qtopia-free Jun 04 21:36:21 on zauri Jun 04 21:36:27 marex why should it be useless? Jun 04 21:36:36 Marex: zaurus is now dead and I just have the basic working on my DC Jun 04 21:36:45 Marex: woglinde: the only thing diffrent between the greenphone and gpl edition of qtopia is the phone specific stuff. Jun 04 21:36:54 true Jun 04 21:36:57 bipolar what I said Jun 04 21:37:13 woglinde: yeah :) Jun 04 21:37:18 marex qtopia is no complete desktop like opie if you that mean Jun 04 21:37:28 look at trolltechs site Jun 04 21:37:32 what qtopia is now Jun 04 21:37:45 They made it confusing with qtopia and qtopia-core Jun 04 21:37:56 qtopia-core is what qt/e used to be. Jun 04 21:38:01 it's marketing :) Jun 04 21:38:10 qtopia is the full enviroment Jun 04 21:38:25 chouimat: sigh... yeah :) Jun 04 21:38:27 I know that ;) Jun 04 21:39:05 bipolar: and for "mindless winblows oriented manager" it's not confusing :) Jun 04 21:39:11 haha Jun 04 21:40:57 bipolar: some people seems to not like your porting work in k-c-d :) Jun 04 21:41:25 chouimat: I wouldn't say 'don't like' as much as 'misunderstand' Jun 04 21:41:30 :) Jun 04 21:41:40 hehe Jun 04 21:41:43 I did my first commit today Jun 04 21:42:00 added the Q_WS_QWS ifdef to kdelib Jun 04 21:42:15 I saw this Jun 04 21:42:25 :) Jun 04 21:42:48 then thiego found a bug in the Qtopia-core build :) Jun 04 21:43:19 becouse of the libQtNetwork workaround I had in findQt4.cmake Jun 04 21:43:25 hehe Jun 04 21:43:56 I love having people around me that know more then I do. :) Jun 04 21:44:20 manager Jun 04 21:44:27 hahaha Jun 04 21:44:30 good call :) Jun 04 21:44:37 polyonymous, do you have a bit of time? Jun 04 21:44:55 Marex, dunno. why? Jun 04 21:45:12 polyonymous, I just cant make OE apply that climt patch :S Jun 04 21:45:17 time for me to head home. later all! Jun 04 21:45:28 you know, it's hard to answer, when you're doing 5 things simultaneously you might as well be able to do 6 :) Jun 04 21:45:28 polyonymous, it's correct, but I cant find where it runs the patch command from Jun 04 21:45:45 Marex, what do you mean? add it to SRC_URI? Jun 04 21:45:53 polyonymous, I sure did that Jun 04 21:45:59 and it fails? Jun 04 21:46:00 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? Jun 04 21:46:07 classical mistake :) Jun 04 21:46:09 aha Jun 04 21:46:24 patch=k, k is natural number Jun 04 21:46:26 Well, that depends on the patch then, I guess. You can also apply it manually. Jun 04 21:46:28 maybe this is not correct Jun 04 21:46:38 polyonymous, I want it to be merged to OE ;) Jun 04 21:46:50 Marex, don't you want to test it first? Jun 04 21:47:02 Well, I think putting it into bugzilla is a good start Jun 04 21:47:05 polyonymous, err ... merged right after testing of course ;) Jun 04 21:47:27 but first ... darn ... why it just wont apply it :S Jun 04 21:47:48 wonderful spam beginning with "Warning: mysql_select_db(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /home/affcon/public_html/partners/actual_settings.php on line 8">" :) Jun 04 21:47:58 :) Jun 04 21:48:04 Marex, I can't tell without looking at it. Jun 04 21:48:15 polyonymous, I can upload it somewhere if you want Jun 04 21:48:16 haha php and mysql Jun 04 21:48:27 what a beautiful combination. Jun 04 21:48:35 and about testing ... it's a four-liner fixing data types so I dont think it'll break something Jun 04 21:48:39 Marex, don't you thing bugzilla is a good place? Jun 04 21:48:53 polyonymous, right after I manage OE to apply it Jun 04 21:49:05 Marex, testing also includes testing for compilability :) Jun 04 21:49:14 Marex, why after? Jun 04 21:49:30 because if it doesnt compile, it's useless Jun 04 21:49:37 err ... s/compile/apply/ Jun 04 21:50:15 Marex, patch is a patch, if it doesn't apply automatically it's still a patch against the source. Jun 04 21:50:27 you wouldn't turn to me if you thought it's useless as it is. Jun 04 21:50:47 http://disk.jabbim.cz/marex@jabber.cz/klimt-gcc4.patch just in case ... Jun 04 21:50:55 Ill put it in bugtracker soon Jun 04 21:51:43 Marex, it's application/octet stream, better pastebin it or put into bugzilla. Jun 04 21:51:58 polyonymous, ok ok :) lemme look at it a bit more Jun 04 21:52:12 sure, meditate as you wish :) Jun 04 21:52:24 it's not like I have nothing to do :) Jun 04 21:52:46 * Marex has big lightbulb flashing above his head Jun 04 21:53:21 polyonymous, ok, I wont bother you :) Jun 04 21:53:34 not exactly what I meant. Jun 04 21:54:00 polyonymous, I know what you mean :) Jun 04 21:58:59 hello all Jun 04 21:59:57 hi likewise Jun 04 22:00:11 the tv show was not real Jun 04 22:04:39 woglinde: :-) Jun 04 22:05:01 they never are. that's why I don't watch tv Jun 04 22:05:34 what CNN is fake?? Jun 04 22:05:35 * chouimat ducks Jun 04 22:16:17 polyonymous, ok ... I found the bug ;] Jun 04 22:16:24 good. Jun 04 22:31:22 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rfa1c000d... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jun 04 22:31:22 qt 4.3.0: assorted fixes: Jun 04 22:31:22 - elminated qt_arch duplication Jun 04 22:31:22 - patched freetype and openssl detection code Jun 04 22:31:22 - enabled precompiled headers Jun 04 22:31:23 - disabled glib Jun 04 22:31:25 - removed uic/moc/rcc for build arch Jun 04 22:33:39 ployonymous: are you going to add qtopia too? Jun 04 22:33:56 thesing, I dunno yet :) Jun 04 22:34:37 polyonymous, I think you should :] Jun 04 22:35:29 Marex, I may well do, but one step at a time. Actually, I'm not a qt guy (despite my acute cuteness) :) Jun 04 22:35:42 :D Jun 04 22:38:28 * Marex will be spitting fire soon if OE will refuse to obey me any longer :E ... I'll be like konqi Jun 04 22:45:29 NOTE: package klimt-0.6.1: completed Jun 04 22:49:23 *** Error: CONTROL/conffiles mentions conffile /home/zero/oe/build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/kismet-2007-01-R1b-r0/image//etc/kismet.conf which does not exist Jun 04 22:49:31 anyone tell me how to fix this properly? Jun 04 22:50:11 hi Jun 04 22:50:21 redump Jun 04 22:51:38 rwhitby: guess where I've been kicked from? ;) Jun 04 23:00:17 ibot, bug 2413 Jun 04 23:00:31 !oebug 2413 Jun 04 23:00:32 * * Bug 2413, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-04 15:59 Jun 04 23:00:33 * * marek.vasut(AT)gmail.com: Klimt wont compile Jun 04 23:00:34 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2413 Jun 04 23:00:39 ah ... thanx Laibsch Jun 04 23:00:49 polyonymous ^ no need to worry anymore :] Jun 04 23:01:00 * * OE Bug 2413 has been created by marek.vasut@gmail.com Jun 04 23:01:02 * * Klimt wont compile Jun 04 23:01:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2413 Jun 04 23:01:59 why would I worry? :) Jun 04 23:02:28 polyonymous, because I might have not commited it to bugtracker :b Jun 04 23:02:34 ah Jun 04 23:02:38 /* just joking */ Jun 04 23:09:27 RP? Jun 04 23:12:01 Zuse: if you want to try the akita patch, you can also use the 2.6.20 kernel. The patch should apply. Jun 04 23:15:25 thesing: Ops, looks I start to bother wit the same question again and again, if you still remember my problem ;) Sorry. However, the compiling of the kernel 2.6.20 fails. in fact there is a new include line in the patch... wait I dig it out Jun 04 23:16:52 thesing: "#include " and this header seems not to be included in 2.6.20 afaik Jun 04 23:18:02 which file includes this? Jun 04 23:18:31 linux-2.6.21/arch/arm/common/sharpsl_pwrtest.c Jun 04 23:19:42 try to replace it with apm-bios.h Jun 04 23:20:48 if that doesn't work you can try the bb's from http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/linux/ Jun 04 23:21:15 thesing: I will flash the newly compiled kernel now Jun 04 23:21:45 Wow! you realy have a slow machine ;) Jun 04 23:22:28 thesing: Will give it a try, thanks Jun 04 23:23:59 yes, I do Jun 04 23:24:11 But I also have other things to do besides OE Jun 04 23:24:19 That slows things down, too ;-) Jun 04 23:24:30 I should have more compile power soon Jun 04 23:31:38 thesing: I guess the "turn on immediately"-bug is not resolved? Jun 04 23:32:11 apm -s seems to work Jun 04 23:32:17 Laibsch: which bug do you mean? Jun 04 23:34:06 !oebug 2150 Jun 04 23:34:07 * * Bug 2150, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-28 01:37 Jun 04 23:34:08 * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: angstrom collie starts boot prematurely Jun 04 23:34:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2150 Jun 04 23:35:43 shutdown still fails, too Jun 04 23:35:49 !oebug 2158 Jun 04 23:35:50 * * Bug 2158, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-29 04:45 Jun 04 23:35:51 * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: angstrom collie fails to shut down Jun 04 23:35:52 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2158 Jun 04 23:37:44 2150 is no real bug. The 2.4 kernel just booted straight into suspend. So one had to wake it up by pressing the cancel key. Jun 04 23:38:00 * * OE Bug 2298 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz Jun 04 23:38:02 * *  login impossible on collie Jun 04 23:38:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2298 Jun 04 23:38:08 does suspend using the cancel key work for you? Jun 04 23:38:09 thesing, it certainly is a bug Jun 04 23:38:34 Read the bug report. The machine starts even before the battery lid is closed! Jun 04 23:40:10 the battery lid is just a kernel detected button. 2.4 kernels would suspend if it's not closed. Jun 04 23:40:48 "Just" or "not just", this is an absolute must-fix before angstrom release Jun 04 23:41:49 well at least this should be easy. Jun 04 23:42:11 thesing: Does the cancel button have any effect for you? Jun 04 23:42:16 It does not for me Jun 04 23:43:12 btw. shut down will propably never realy work for collie. Of course one could suspend the kernel after reboot. Jun 04 23:43:25 did you hold it a few seconds? Jun 04 23:43:37 yes, a couple Jun 04 23:43:44 I'll hold them a bit longer to be sure Jun 04 23:44:05 It seems you need to press it on VT 1 Jun 04 23:44:07 Then it works Jun 04 23:44:18 It does not work on the boot-splash screen Jun 04 23:44:42 Thats strange. Jun 04 23:44:54 on coming out of suspend I get a ton of messages about Jun 04 23:44:55 mcp: write timed out Jun 04 23:44:58 and Jun 04 23:45:03 mcp: read timed out Jun 04 23:45:07 it also work sin X11. Jun 04 23:45:14 thesing: You should be able to verify for yourself, right? Jun 04 23:45:31 thats normal. Jun 04 23:46:02 the collie goes straight back into suspend when I press Cancel to wake it up Jun 04 23:46:42 Than you pressed cancel to long before. So you have more than one suspend request in the queue. Jun 04 23:47:17 Well, it was no so long, really Jun 04 23:47:25 But that should be fixed, too Jun 04 23:47:50 I do verify the kernels myself, but just because it works for me doesn't mean, that it work for other people ;) Jun 04 23:48:29 This function will probably be moved to userspace anyway. Jun 04 23:48:32 I don't think I pressed it too long Jun 04 23:48:51 At first it would not work on VT 1 either Jun 04 23:49:08 Then I continuously pressed a little longer to get it to suspend. Jun 04 23:49:27 After that succeeded and waking back up, the machine goes back right to sleep Jun 04 23:49:53 So while there is progress 2323 is far from fixed Jun 04 23:50:56 comment #5 about some random key that needs to be pressed also applies Jun 04 23:51:09 I you want to wake the machine up don't hold the cancel button. Jun 04 23:51:31 the immediate suspension can be intterrupted by pressing return on the serial console Jun 04 23:51:49 thesing: What do you mean? Jun 04 23:51:59 I think the cancel button is for waking the machine up Jun 04 23:52:40 Oh, I see what you mean Jun 04 23:52:47 But that is very bad design Jun 04 23:52:56 Hold the button long to turn off. Jun 04 23:53:03 Just tap it to turn back on Jun 04 23:53:21 That is asymetric UI and you will get valid bug reports to no end for that Jun 04 23:53:52 But you are right, tapping the on/off button instead of holding it for turning back on will not result in immediate suspend Jun 04 23:55:30 The cancel button is far from final. Just a proof of concept. Jun 04 23:57:29 Yes, that is OK Jun 04 23:57:49 As long as we agree on this being not ready yet Jun 04 23:58:06 not trying to rush you Jun 04 23:58:33 hi Jun 05 00:00:10 Ok, bed time Jun 05 00:00:11 Later Jun 05 00:00:13 Its quite late now. Jun 05 00:00:24 Fuck it really is LATE Jun 05 00:00:31 I thought it was like 12:30 Jun 05 00:00:42 Well, I'll have to sleep faster now Jun 05 00:00:42 Time runs as usual. Jun 05 00:00:47 Me too. Jun 05 00:01:01 hi guys Jun 05 00:01:06 good night, thesing Jun 05 00:01:18 good night. Jun 05 00:01:23 * thesing -> bed. Jun 05 00:08:07 nite Jun 05 00:57:42 ~lart Suse 10.2 for not having mtd-tools Jun 05 00:57:43 * ibot throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Suse 10.2 for not having mtd-tools Jun 05 00:59:34 since where do we need a specific reason to bash suse? Jun 05 01:00:05 ~lart suse for no reason Jun 05 01:00:05 * ibot gets a hotmal account and SPAMs suse for no reason Jun 05 01:00:52 uhm. hotmail transfers the sender ip address in the header ... Jun 05 01:09:09 anyone with a tosa around? Jun 05 01:09:18 hmm Jun 05 01:09:37 yes, and moderately working, I think Jun 05 01:11:00 could you do me a favor and check if the keyboard has buttons to raise and lower the brightness of the display backlight? Jun 05 01:11:35 could be Fn+3 / Fn+4 Jun 05 01:12:15 there is a button with a light bulb symbol on the outer keypad Jun 05 01:12:50 but no "brightness" symbols above any keys of the keyboard? Jun 05 01:14:23 no brightness keys Jun 05 01:14:40 ljp: thanks Jun 05 01:14:40 not on the japanese version, no Jun 05 01:14:50 just checking Jun 05 01:16:18 ljp: agreed, that could have been answered quicker Jun 05 01:16:21 * aoe -> bed Jun 05 01:17:03 =) Jun 05 01:17:05 n8 aoe Jun 05 01:21:57 CoreDump|home: bug filing? Jun 05 01:22:09 bug resolving Jun 05 01:22:23 oh Jun 05 01:24:01 * * OE Bug 2230 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by oe@hentges.net Jun 05 01:24:03 * *  gpe-login does not allow screen brightness adjustment Jun 05 01:24:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2230 Jun 05 01:24:41 heh, cool, so we should be expecting hardware key brightness changing soon? Jun 05 01:26:26 yes, I'll commit later today Jun 05 01:35:48 <3 Jun 05 01:38:31 ~terrier Jun 05 01:38:41 ~borzoi Jun 05 01:38:45 methinks terrier is Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, or a dog Jun 05 01:38:48 well, borzoi is the Sharp SL-C3100, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/borzoi.htm ) Jun 05 01:40:49 RP: A terrier reports being a borzoi in cpuinfo, is that intended? Jun 05 01:52:01 * * OE Bug 2404 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by oe@hentges.net Jun 05 01:52:03 * *  Zaurus clamshells need a custom modmap Jun 05 01:52:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2404 Jun 05 01:56:01 * * OE Bug 1313 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by oe@hentges.net Jun 05 01:56:03 * *  British keymap wrong or missing under OZ/GPE 3.5.4.1 spitz Jun 05 01:56:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1313 Jun 05 02:15:02 * * OE Bug 2109 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by oe@hentges.net Jun 05 02:15:04 * *  Angstrom 20070402-spitz /home/root is not created on install Jun 05 02:15:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2109 Jun 05 02:27:02 * * OE Bug 2231 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by oe@hentges.net Jun 05 02:27:04 * *  Unable to change virtual terminal/ session windows after logging in Jun 05 02:27:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2231 Jun 05 02:49:55 ~lart zaurusd for turning off the mixer on spitz Jun 05 02:49:57 * ibot keeps mailing zaurusd free America Online CDs until he drowns for turning off the mixer on spitz **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 05 02:59:57 2007