**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 08 02:59:56 2007 Jun 08 03:48:10 Hi im trying to build mpd and it is hanging on NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.musicpd.org/mpd;module=trunk;proto=https ... any ideas? Jun 08 04:01:01 * * OE Bug 2438 has been created by carbonfreeze@gmail.com Jun 08 04:01:03 * * angstrom 20070604 ipkg update fails on gstreamer feed Jun 08 04:01:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2438 Jun 08 04:16:03 * * OE Bug 2439 has been created by alex@lindenlevy.com Jun 08 04:16:03 * * mpd build hangs at svn check out Jun 08 04:16:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2439 Jun 08 04:25:01 * * OE Bug 2439 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by alex@lindenlevy.com Jun 08 04:25:03 * *  mpd build hangs at svn check out Jun 08 04:25:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2439 Jun 08 04:44:01 * * OE Bug 2338 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2110 by carbonfreeze@gmail.com Jun 08 04:44:03 * *  display-brightness.sh is missing Jun 08 04:44:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2338 Jun 08 04:56:03 did any respond to my query ? I couldn't see since net went down Jun 08 04:56:58 I didn't even see your q Jun 08 04:58:20 carbonfreeze: it was about caliberating; how can I get the initial data to put in /etc/pointercal Jun 08 05:01:15 aanishn: I have not had to use calibrate since 200705 images, try xtscal? Jun 08 05:01:53 aanishn: If you need entries for pointercal try http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromPointercals Jun 08 05:04:26 carbonfreeze: ok. thanks. let me see the link Jun 08 05:05:01 * * OE Bug 2440 has been created by carbonfreeze@gmail.com Jun 08 05:05:03 * * "Multiple replacers for atd, using first one (at-doc)" during ipkg upgrade Jun 08 05:05:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2440 Jun 08 05:26:01 * * OE Bug 2441 has been created by carbonfreeze@gmail.com Jun 08 05:26:03 * * ipkg install md5sum badness Jun 08 05:26:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2441 Jun 08 06:15:41 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r0bb26a96... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jun 08 06:15:41 rp-pppoe 3.8: Fix issues caused by autoconf needing to run in the src Jun 08 06:15:41 subdirectory of the source code. The OE autotools.bbclass runs the autoconf Jun 08 06:15:41 stuff in ${S}, so you need to change ${S} to the src subdirectory to get it Jun 08 06:15:41 to work. But ${S} is also where patches are appplied, so you can't patch the Jun 08 06:15:42 config files and other things which aren't in the src directory. So add some Jun 08 06:15:45 autoconf at the top level which just says there's a sub-autoconf project in Jun 08 06:29:57 good morning! Jun 08 06:35:18 polyonymous_: qt4-x11-free fails do_compile for me even after cleaning out tmp. You must have some local changes to make it build. Jun 08 06:51:11 how do i tell bitbake to build a different version i.e. not svn mpd? Jun 08 06:51:43 lindenle: Set the preferred version for it in your local.conf Jun 08 06:52:01 For example.. Jun 08 06:52:08 PREFERRED_VERSION_binutils-cross = "2.16" Jun 08 06:52:55 ok Jun 08 06:54:03 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r06a8528d... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): Jun 08 06:54:03 usermanual: Rename the sample in the recipes chapter from helloworld to Jun 08 06:54:03 myhelloworld since someone committed a helloworld recipe to OE and that's Jun 08 06:54:03 now where the documentation was saying to put this example. Jun 08 06:56:07 NAbyss: trying it now Jun 08 07:11:31 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r945723a3... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): usermanual/recipes: Put some basic info in the classes section. Jun 08 07:14:48 lindenle: You can also say on the command line "bitbake foo-1.2.3" Jun 08 07:15:01 * * OE Bug 2442 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz Jun 08 07:15:04 * * qt4-x11-free fails do_compile Jun 08 07:15:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2442 Jun 08 07:16:00 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2415386a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: fix typo in feeds, closes #2438 Jun 08 07:20:02 * * OE Bug 2438 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz Jun 08 07:20:04 * *  angstrom 20070604 ipkg update fails on gstreamer feed Jun 08 07:20:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2438 Jun 08 07:21:02 * * OE Bug 2443 has been created by jake@cogini.com Jun 08 07:21:03 * * QA failure for .debug directory in python-cheetah Jun 08 07:21:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 Jun 08 07:31:51 !oebug 2444 Jun 08 07:31:53 * * Bug 2444, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-08 00:30 Jun 08 07:31:54 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: usb-gadget-mode build failure Jun 08 07:31:55 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444 Jun 08 07:32:03 * * OE Bug 2444 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 07:32:05 * * usb-gadget-mode build failure Jun 08 07:32:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444 Jun 08 07:33:36 hi, all! Jun 08 07:33:57 somebody please look into 2444 - it is trivial fix. Jun 08 07:38:19 I can't subscribe to http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel, I get no mail-reply. Jun 08 07:38:37 Is it not open fore normal user of OE? Jun 08 07:39:44 pelle2004: Sure it is open Jun 08 07:39:57 If nothing else works you can also read it via gmane.org Jun 08 07:40:57 I'm having problems building perl-5.8.8-r10 on Fedora Core 6 and needs to post some issues.. Jun 08 07:43:01 * * OE Bug 2444 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz Jun 08 07:43:03 * *  usb-gadget-mode build failure Jun 08 07:43:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444 Jun 08 07:43:09 pelle2004: You can also sent mail to the list via gmane.org Jun 08 07:43:19 slapin_nb: There you go! Jun 08 07:43:35 I check gmane.org Jun 08 07:44:03 Laibsch, thanks a lot! Jun 08 07:49:47 pelle2004: I've read you email, but I'm a bit out of ideas. It's not working because of that LD_LIBRARY_PATH thing.... and this is just a normal perl build, no special OE stuff for perl-native. Have you tried rebuild the perl src.rpm on FC6 to make sure that works? Jun 08 07:50:13 or even just untar and manually build the perl source Jun 08 07:50:54 No I have not tryed any default for FC6 Jun 08 07:51:29 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r59869e48... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): usermanual/recipes: Fill in some details in the staging section. Jun 08 07:52:41 pelle2004: It's perl-native your having problems with, not perl and basically all OE is doing is running the standard perl configure and make. Jun 08 07:53:30 pelle2004: Probably worth checking if there's any related patches or dependencies on the src.rpm for perl on FC6. It could be an issue with the version of make for example. Jun 08 07:54:41 v8jlene: I can try building for FC6 nativ. But if that is done as root user it will work. My problem is LD_LIBRARY_PATH is cleared for not root users. I'm building all cross as not root users. Jun 08 07:56:07 pelle2004: Yes, you should never build as root. Note that this applies to src.rpm's as well as OE... that's why I'm wondering if the src.rpm build works. Jun 08 07:57:51 v8jlene: I test src.rpm as not root user if it works ..... Jun 08 08:11:22 morning Jun 08 08:13:09 evening Jun 08 08:14:15 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rc2e26b8e... 10/ (8 files in 5 dirs): move bitstream-vera fonts to ttf-fonts and qpf-fonts respectively. Jun 08 08:14:23 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re6622d3a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): anstrom-2007.1.conf: enable altboot for spitz after successful test. Jun 08 08:14:28 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r8e0a5512... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): usb-gadge-mode: Create /etc/default in do_install. Closes 2444. Jun 08 08:18:51 * XorA uses usb ethernet on Zaurus Jun 08 08:26:54 Laibsch: please fix you merge fuckup in usb-gadget-mode Jun 08 08:27:02 Laibsch: I already fixed 2444 long before it was reported Jun 08 08:27:43 Laibsch: and you have undone my other work on that file Jun 08 08:28:10 Laibsch: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-June/005942.html Jun 08 08:32:22 XorA: Sure Jun 08 08:32:24 Already done Jun 08 08:32:37 XorA: I just found out the report was invalid Jun 08 08:32:47 I reinstated your work Jun 08 08:32:51 Take it easy! Jun 08 08:33:26 Actually already done locally before CIA-3 reported my commit Jun 08 08:33:28 Laibsch: I wasnt stressed, just hoping you hadnt done a commit and run :-) Jun 08 08:33:43 I always commit, duck and run! Jun 08 08:33:55 Laibsch: its just easier/quicker to shout here than email Jun 08 08:34:06 why does usbgadget mode have a MAINTAINER? Jun 08 08:34:10 quicker yes Jun 08 08:34:13 but no need to shout Jun 08 08:34:15 did we reomve that filed eons ago? Jun 08 08:34:16 ;-) Jun 08 08:34:34 Laibsch: always need to SHOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D Jun 08 08:34:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4cd70362... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): disapproval of revision '8e0a5512f90f14af5dfc892a6ad54499b93850da' Jun 08 08:34:49 koen: no! Jun 08 08:35:05 well, this log is certainly gonna look funny ;-) Jun 08 08:35:28 mtn log packages/usb-gadget-mode/ Jun 08 08:35:54 koen: As I said I had already pushed the change Jun 08 08:36:24 you didn't, it wasn't in the repo when I disapproved it Jun 08 08:37:26 koen: Yes I did Jun 08 08:37:39 And it sometimes takes a while to propagate Jun 08 08:37:43 I guess you know that Jun 08 08:37:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r33d2e288... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): usbgadget: remove MAINTAINER field and bogus HOMEPAGE Jun 08 08:37:58 Anyways Jun 08 08:38:00 that's nonsense Jun 08 08:38:10 a commit is in the repo or not Jun 08 08:38:12 Oh, there goes koen again Jun 08 08:38:25 Well, it is in the repos now. Jun 08 08:38:44 * Laibsch has no intention to argue fruitlessly with koen this morning Jun 08 08:44:11 so if we have an OE foundation we can put a rocket in Koens arse according to zecke :-D Jun 08 08:52:31 Can I tell bitbake to only do checkout source and not start any configure or build. Jun 08 08:54:26 pelle2004: Read the docs Jun 08 08:54:30 bitbake -c fetch Jun 08 08:54:37 bitbake -c fetch $package Jun 08 08:54:54 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re538d871... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 08 08:54:54 python-pyqt4: update to version 4.2 Jun 08 08:54:54 fixes unfetchable source. No further changes. Jun 08 08:54:54 untested until bug 2442 has been closed. Jun 08 08:54:58 morning Jun 08 08:55:05 Laibsch, Thanks Jun 08 08:56:18 pelle2004: You can also fetch package and all its dependencies Jun 08 08:56:23 -c fetchall Jun 08 08:56:26 thanks to hrw Jun 08 08:56:32 Good morning, hrw! Jun 08 08:56:41 Laibsch: fetchall was added by RP Jun 08 08:56:46 * koen tries to make sense of pulseaudio in openmoko svn Jun 08 08:57:05 hrw: Oh, somebody it was you who created it. Jun 08 08:57:30 Well, then, -c fetchall brought to you by RP Jun 08 08:58:00 XorA: does cxx00 can use bl08 battery? (big one from c7x0/poodle) Jun 08 08:58:01 aha Jun 08 08:58:03 http://svnweb.openmoko.org/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-base/openmoko-sound-system_0.1.0.bb?rev=2192&view=markup Jun 08 08:58:15 mickeyl doesn't understand debian.bbclass Jun 08 08:58:29 hrw: bl11 Jun 08 08:58:52 XorA: I know that is use bl11 Jun 08 08:59:10 hrw: never tried my bl08 as its fairly fucked after 4 years Jun 08 08:59:42 XorA: on #openzaurus guy asked about it and you are the one with both ;) Jun 08 08:59:58 Xora: you know where to get a cheap bl11 that wont explode? Jun 08 09:00:06 rwhitby: thanks for the answer, I had hoped you would reply Jun 08 09:00:28 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6411920648.html Jun 08 09:00:38 carbonfreeze: nope Jun 08 09:00:54 Laibsch: I don't want some one to have +50k on his private account Jun 08 09:01:16 Laibsch: really, this guy either turns sane/insane or will have issues with his tax authorities Jun 08 09:01:49 hrw: I think it should do, it looks same size Jun 08 09:02:23 zecke: OK, that is indeed a valid argument Jun 08 09:02:41 zecke: Do we already have +50k? ;-) Jun 08 09:02:49 * koen would like 50k on his account Jun 08 09:02:56 zecke: Any news/rumours in that respect? Jun 08 09:04:39 Laibsch: no new ones Jun 08 09:04:52 * Laibsch did not know about the old rumours Jun 08 09:05:04 Laibsch: I would even apply this to 10k :) Jun 08 09:05:27 Well, we'd need to get to that first Jun 08 09:05:32 * koen would like 10k on his account as well Jun 08 09:05:41 I was amazed by the numbers rwhitby has racked up Jun 08 09:06:44 imaging you have 10k on your bank account, for some reason the financial authroties scan your accounts and wonder why you don't declare this money Jun 08 09:07:05 Laibsch: as paypal gets a real 'bank' this will even happen to paypal accounts Jun 08 09:07:41 zecke: in .nl the tax office scans your accounts twice a year Jun 08 09:09:58 scan your accounts? I thought that there was still some kind of limit to this, like a judge ordering it. Have we really lost all rights to privacy now? Jun 08 09:10:23 then maybe let create OE org in Swiss? Jun 08 09:10:47 Id suggest luxemburg, as paypal are moving there, there must be some dodgy hole they exploit Jun 08 09:10:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re0c43526... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/libatomics-ops_1.2.bb): libatomic ops 1.2: add it Jun 08 09:10:54 Anything seems better than .de at the moment Jun 08 09:11:29 Laibsch: dunno, but keep in mind that money in itself is a goverment thing Jun 08 09:14:33 Laibsch: not in germany Jun 08 09:15:27 Laibsch: OpenMoko needs help on asian input methods Jun 08 09:16:00 zecke: I have no device Jun 08 09:16:38 And I am helping them by getting stuff into OE Jun 08 09:17:26 zecke: Any "official" request for help? Jun 08 09:17:55 Laibsch: Watch Harald's and Sean's video at google.video Jun 08 09:18:02 I had tought that with them being based in .tw, they would easily have the input support incorporated Jun 08 09:18:10 * Laibsch searches Jun 08 09:18:16 Laibsch: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 Jun 08 09:18:30 thanks Jun 08 09:18:34 Laibsch: the one sentence is more at the end of the video Jun 08 09:19:09 Well, I don' think I can do much without a device Jun 08 09:19:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r61fb94a9... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-boot.bb packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-boot: split out of task base as per RFC Jun 08 09:20:45 Laibsch: ask for one Jun 08 09:26:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r27190fff... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): usb-gadget-mode: s/PACKAGE_ARCH = $MACHINE/PACKAGE_ARCH = $MACHINE_ARCH/ Jun 08 09:27:46 Laibsch: but the .tw guys are not too hot on the old software front :-) Jun 08 09:28:10 Laibsch: you should just email to the lists volunteering, and see if you get lucky with a P1 flying to you Jun 08 09:29:29 Laibsch: its going to be a challenge as the interface on P1 is so damn slow at the minute Jun 08 09:29:35 this heat is frying my brain Jun 08 09:29:42 koen: how hot? Jun 08 09:30:25 the thermometer says "low battery" Jun 08 09:30:43 koen: I dont want it too hot for the next week Jun 08 09:30:46 koen: I hate hot Jun 08 09:30:47 I suspect 25 degrees with too much himudity Jun 08 09:30:57 and bad spelling Jun 08 09:31:46 koen, 25 degrees?!!..its hate 36 here, my dear friend Jun 08 09:32:23 the 40 degrees in arizona was acceptable as well Jun 08 09:32:30 but that was a dry heat Jun 08 09:32:54 heat is only acceptable if there are chicks in bikini around Jun 08 09:33:02 koen, its always "Wet" heat over here..monsoons have started, and i live in a rain shadow region..beat that Jun 08 09:36:55 Sup3rkiddo: I live in Scotland, all we have is rain Jun 08 09:37:22 XorA: no sun? Jun 08 09:37:32 * crink off to dinner. Jun 08 09:37:39 crink: I think I saw a yellow thing in the sky a few months back :-) Jun 08 09:37:53 :| Jun 08 09:39:00 wow using usb-ethernet is massively faster than g_ether Jun 08 09:39:08 how does that happen Jun 08 09:39:37 XorA: no emulation of ethernet in software? Jun 08 09:42:29 hrw: bl08 fits in CXX00 device Jun 08 09:43:22 hrw: its flat though so device didnt boot Jun 08 09:43:28 thx Jun 08 09:43:53 seems to be only difference is 100mAh Jun 08 09:46:38 koen, XorA, zecke: Actually, I contacted the openmoko guys right when the first word came out. And told them what I had done in OE and what my plans were. Jun 08 09:46:45 Sean immediately told me "We'll get you a discounted phone for sure" which I had not expected and I thought was amazing since I did not feel I had contributed that much of significant stuff at that point in time. Jun 08 09:46:54 contact them again Jun 08 09:47:03 Then came the P0 phase and stuff and now I was told I don't get anything. Jun 08 09:47:09 OK, I will. Jun 08 09:47:43 Laibsch: the problem was P0 was basically buggered and threw a spanner into works Jun 08 09:48:04 Laibsch: and high levels of stress in openmoko project, but I think they are now calmer Jun 08 09:48:13 No, I was saying that Sean's comment came at a time when there was not talk of cost-free phones but of discounts Jun 08 09:48:22 Now it is free phones for some Jun 08 09:48:30 Full pay for everybody else Jun 08 09:48:55 I never expected to enter the discount bracket Jun 08 09:49:12 I was quite aware I would not make the "fully free"-class Jun 08 09:49:56 too many bloomin neos here Jun 08 10:23:47 http://pwjb.atspace.com/optical.jpg Jun 08 10:29:55 http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSPAR64994620070606 - Dutch students created alcohol powder Jun 08 10:37:23 Laibsch, I definitely don't have local changes here and as I understand koen was also able to build qt4-x11 and he definitely doesn't share build environment with me :) Jun 08 10:41:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0ebd9249... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.6.bb): pulse: fix DEPENDS Jun 08 10:41:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0efcec71... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb): qt4-x11 4.3.0: don't RDEPENDS on -dev packages Jun 08 10:47:11 zecke: Where you referring to the part where Harald says that the Asian community so far has not contributed much and not picked up momentum? Jun 08 10:47:58 Laibsch: did he say that? Jun 08 10:48:20 Laibsch: I think referred to the part where he wants to show the asian input method and explains that the core team is from europe+argentina Jun 08 10:50:11 yes, that is what I meant as well Jun 08 10:55:41 ERROR: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) while parsing /home/slapin/openedhand/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader_cvs.bb Jun 08 10:55:46 any ideas? Jun 08 11:03:23 hmm. Jun 08 11:04:14 slapin_fs, I think you can ignore it, but that's strange... Jun 08 11:04:40 could it be that uqtreader is too bashish? Jun 08 11:05:13 polyonymous: ? Jun 08 11:05:32 zecke|study, or is it not parsed by bash? Jun 08 11:05:47 polyonymous: it is parsed by bitbake Jun 08 11:05:49 zecke|study, I mean, what might be causing parse to fail for slapin_fs and not for me? Jun 08 11:05:55 zecke|study, any idea then? Jun 08 11:06:25 zecke|study, I thought that parts of it might be parsed by bash, but indeed that would be strange as it would be much longer :) Jun 08 11:06:30 how hold is uqtreader? I can't stand packages hardcoding /usr/bin Jun 08 11:06:56 zecke|study, my fault, I've hacked it really quick yesterday. Jun 08 11:07:07 zecke|study, I'll fix it, but the question is still there. Jun 08 11:07:49 XorA: BTW, what did you mean "but the .tw guys are not too hot on the old software front" Jun 08 11:08:01 polyonymous: from a quick scan the file looks okay Jun 08 11:08:29 zecke|study, but not for slapin_fs hmm... Jun 08 11:08:49 slapin_fs: what is the context of your error? Jun 08 11:14:17 slapin_fs: thanks for omitting the important information ;) Jun 08 11:14:24 :) Jun 08 11:14:34 ${@base_set_filespath([ "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader-${OPIE_CVS_PV}-r1", "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader-${OPIE_CVS_PV}", "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader", "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/files", "/space/zecke_work/private/ Jun 08 11:15:03 what's this? Jun 08 11:15:44 polyonymous: http://rafb.net/p/39YDVT70.html parse errors so far Jun 08 11:15:55 polyonymous: you might should disapprove your qt4 work ;) Jun 08 11:16:41 zecke|study, huh... Jun 08 11:16:50 zecke|study: where you got such sick code? Jun 08 11:17:05 hrw, it's me who's sicko :) Jun 08 11:17:14 polyonymous: you perv! Jun 08 11:17:32 hrw, running opie-reader on qt4-x11 is a perversion, no doubt :) Jun 08 11:17:37 * zecke|study should declare himself dictator over Qt and QtopiaCore Jun 08 11:17:55 zecke|study, but you can't break it if it ain't fixed :) Jun 08 11:18:13 wait Jun 08 11:18:16 blame koen! :) Jun 08 11:18:41 I think it's his last commit. Jun 08 11:18:52 0efcec71b181f642ef8e3a01197e4c06abae4f56 Jun 08 11:18:53 polyonymous: writing such usage of base_set_filespath is sick Jun 08 11:19:05 hrw, that's not me! Jun 08 11:19:22 that's bitbake, not my .bbs Jun 08 11:19:26 ah Jun 08 11:19:47 and I'll fix koen's commit now, that should be no problem either. Jun 08 11:19:58 OMG I see tabs in qt4-x11 Jun 08 11:20:16 zecke|study: in the bb file? Jun 08 11:20:29 are they forbidden? Jun 08 11:21:10 polyonymous: I think not forbidden but discouraged Jun 08 11:21:11 polyonymous: they are certainly forbidden when they were not used before Jun 08 11:21:22 polyonymous: see policies in the wiki Jun 08 11:21:44 zecke|study, I certainly didn't reformat existing .bb, but I didn't pay much attention to what characters are getting in, sorry. Jun 08 11:21:45 polyonymous: you might want to look into do_split_packages as well Jun 08 11:22:16 the guy who added -qdbus added tabs, same for -pch and -no-glib. What did you decide against glib? Jun 08 11:22:17 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rb72a6f6c... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb): qt 4.3.0: syntactical fix Jun 08 11:22:40 FILES_libqtscript,libqtdbus is using tabs as well Jun 08 11:22:41 zecke|study, qt4 doesn't do well with gslice. Jun 08 11:22:58 Okay, okay, I'm sorry, I'll remove tabs. Jun 08 11:23:01 pixeltool, dbus as well Jun 08 11:23:33 are tabs in {} blocks also discouraged? Jun 08 11:23:33 QT-NONDEV-PACKAGES why not QT_NONDEV_PACKAGES like with every other variable :) Jun 08 11:23:53 polyonymous: I would discourage them, but they are so many of them inside the qt4 file I won't argue against them Jun 08 11:23:53 zecke|study, NONDEV-PACKAGES are koen's invention :) Jun 08 11:24:21 zecke|study, I see absolutely no problem in removing every single tab there, if you think it's important. Jun 08 11:24:23 polyonymous: we all know koen has mental issues ;) Jun 08 11:24:50 Well, okay, but I don't want to be blamed for his issues :) I have enough insanity of my own:) Jun 08 11:24:59 as you can see :) Jun 08 11:25:43 polyonymous: let me guess you didn't add a checksum to checksums.ini? and before Laibsch complains automatically adding them defeats the trust model Jun 08 11:26:02 zecke|study, I think I did. Jun 08 11:26:13 <:) Jun 08 11:26:28 yes, I did :-P Jun 08 11:26:46 good boy Jun 08 11:26:48 please-please only blame my faults on me :) Jun 08 11:26:57 I sure you're not going to run out of them anytime soon. Jun 08 11:27:05 s/I/I'm/ Jun 08 11:27:41 zecke|study, again, are tabs in {} blocks also discouraged? Jun 08 11:28:18 polyonymous: probably not Jun 08 11:28:42 zecke|study: I never proposed automatic additions. Just a tool to make the addition as painless for the submitter as possible. Jun 08 11:28:43 ok. zecke|study do you have a quick answer why do you care about tabs at all? Jun 08 11:28:56 Because otherwise it just ain't gonna happen Jun 08 11:29:10 Laibsch, isn't it a matter of a very short script? Jun 08 11:29:28 Laibsch: well, one can make it mandantory but I like polyonymous answer Jun 08 11:29:38 polyonymous: they make my eyes bleeed Jun 08 11:30:08 zecke|study, I'd rather fix the eyes then ;-) But well. Jun 08 11:30:52 polyonymous: they are strictly forbidden in python methods at least python () {} __anonfunc() {} in the _prepend and _append Jun 08 11:31:06 zecke|study, ah, that's where it comes from... Jun 08 11:31:21 Yeah, python is a tablic enemy. Jun 08 11:31:54 polyonymous, zecke|study: Well, then commit that script to contrib and announce it on the ML. Why let everybody create it for themselves? Jun 08 11:32:32 Laibsch, so that everyone's script will have his own shortcoming? Then we have a contest and the winner goes it contribs :) Jun 08 11:32:43 Laibsch: I don't have such a script Jun 08 11:33:19 neither I do. I would have it if I added more checksums. Jun 08 11:33:28 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rbd9174be... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb): qt 4.3.0: detabulated a bit Jun 08 11:35:17 I don't either Jun 08 11:35:32 welcome to the club :) Jun 08 11:35:39 And until I do, I won't be committing checksums as I find it too cumbersome Jun 08 11:35:46 And monkey-job-like even for me Jun 08 11:36:07 is it the only job you find cumbersome? Jun 08 11:38:52 polyonymous: is QTPACKAGES used somewhere? Jun 08 11:38:53 No Jun 08 11:39:23 no, not the onley one. But the only one I can think of right now that I find cumbersome and meaningless to do in its current form. Jun 08 11:39:23 koen, PACKAGES += ? Jun 08 11:39:45 If that's the only place it offends my sense of style :) Jun 08 11:40:11 koen, I think it was used elsewhere, why would I do it then... Jun 08 11:40:27 Laibsch: hmm I prefer to shut up on this and wait for a japanese hacker to change the tarball of an existing release Jun 08 11:40:38 koen, could it be that I introduced it for exactly the same reason you introduced nondev? Jun 08 11:40:47 polyonymous: could be :) Jun 08 11:41:05 koen, that would explain it all ;-) But don't worry, I'll rearrange it later. Jun 08 11:41:29 koen, btw, I have a screenshot of reader, but my shell has troubles with ssh now so I can't upload it. Jun 08 11:41:34 zecke|study: What does the Japanese hacker have to do with this? Jun 08 11:43:28 Laibsch: because this is something you care for Jun 08 11:45:17 zecke|study: I still don't get it. Are you implying that the Japanese are not active enough in OE, that this is my fault or responsibility? Jun 08 11:45:29 zecke|study: And I do care about efficient and effortless work Jun 08 11:45:53 zecke|study: When I hear you asking for md5sums then I think "this could be done easier" Jun 08 11:46:01 Too much? Jun 08 11:46:43 * Laibsch does not feel responsible for pulling anyone in. Jun 08 11:47:24 I don't think that's what zecke meant. Jun 08 11:47:39 Laibsch: ah sorry, a complete misunderstanding Jun 08 11:47:45 OK Jun 08 11:47:59 I am not sure what you meant Jun 08 11:48:13 Laibsch: a) yes we can and I should write a script appending the checksum Jun 08 11:48:39 nice! Jun 08 11:49:09 b) before doing that we should argue about it and throw heavy things around just for the sake of it. Jun 08 11:49:20 Laibsch: b) You will only see the importance once you have been bit Jun 08 11:49:55 Laibsch: There are two reasons why the same file can have different content Jun 08 11:50:31 Oh, I think I am slowly getting your point. Jun 08 11:50:34 Laibsch: 1) malicious changes by hacker as has been seen most recently by wordpress 2) the author just updates the code for whatever reason Jun 08 11:50:47 hacker you meant in the "evil" sense of the word, right? Jun 08 11:50:54 no Jun 08 11:50:56 I thought you meant coder Jun 08 11:51:02 Laibsch: malicious == evil Jun 08 11:51:22 ah Jun 08 11:51:38 zecke|study: I never said the md5sums made no sense. Sorry if it came across as that. Jun 08 11:51:38 Laibsch: but both cases are bad. Imagine someone recompiling the packages you have created. Jun 08 11:51:51 well, I think indeed there are a few ways to interpret zecke statement even if you consider hacker == coder :) Jun 08 11:51:52 zecke|study: No need to argue here. Jun 08 11:51:58 I am all for md5sums Jun 08 11:53:08 Laibsch: To the point: I think our responsibility to our customers/users should be so hight that you don't think it is a cumbersome monkey task :) Jun 08 11:53:13 but enough beeing said Jun 08 11:53:21 All I am saying is "I don't want to do something manually in 3 minutes that a script could have done for me with negligible additional time taken from me". I think many will agree and that is why you are seeing so few people commit md5sums. Jun 08 11:54:16 3 minutes? Jun 08 11:54:25 Laibsch: on my mac I use macports which use sha256sums as well and they are mandantory ;) Jun 08 11:54:32 I mean, you're certainly right, but the time estimation... Jun 08 11:54:38 zecke|study: Take a different angle. We should make it easy for the contributors to OE to make sure they do the md5sums and thus make a better OE for all users. Understand where I am hinting at? Jun 08 11:54:53 Laibsch: see a) from above Jun 08 11:55:11 OK, let's get down to it ;-) Jun 08 12:00:15 polyonymous: you might want to update qmake2-native to 4.3.0 as well? Jun 08 12:00:33 zecke|study, yes, but that's not important. Jun 08 12:00:45 zecke|study, what is of more concer is your .conf file Jun 08 12:00:47 zecke|study, polyonymous please see bug 2445, I'll provide all additional info on request Jun 08 12:00:56 slapin_fs, try to pull first? Jun 08 12:01:01 !oebak 2445 Jun 08 12:01:06 !oebug 2445 Jun 08 12:01:07 * * Bug 2445, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-08 05:00 Jun 08 12:01:08 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: Problems during parsing Jun 08 12:01:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2445 Jun 08 12:01:16 what could be the reason for this error Jun 08 12:01:20 sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' Jun 08 12:01:21 sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file Jun 08 12:01:21 NOTE: Task failed: Jun 08 12:01:29 zecke|study, polyonymous: sorry, was on launch Jun 08 12:01:36 borked bitbake recipe? Jun 08 12:01:54 Sup3rkiddo: Unlikely. What package? Jun 08 12:02:01 * * OE Bug 2445 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 12:02:03 * * Problems during parsing Jun 08 12:02:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2445 Jun 08 12:02:13 Laibsch, its my own..just an hello world app Jun 08 12:03:25 Sup3rkiddo, then probably yes. Jun 08 12:03:40 Sup3rkiddo: Try building nano first Jun 08 12:03:46 Sup3rkiddo: "bitbake nano" Jun 08 12:03:49 polyonymous, hehe...ok Jun 08 12:04:26 Sup3rkiddo, first, read your .bb. Then you may want to try to pastebin it if you absolutely can't find disbalanced quotes. Jun 08 12:05:11 polyonymous, i will pastebin it...btw can i set the SRC_URI to "file://blah/blah Jun 08 12:05:30 no clue, probably yes. Jun 08 12:05:51 polyonymous, never mind the last questio..build failed while inpacking Jun 08 12:06:08 must be a borked tarball Jun 08 12:06:08 polyonymous, colse 2445 - it seems to be fixed now. Jun 08 12:06:13 *close Jun 08 12:06:29 *unpacking Jun 08 12:07:59 bbl - lunch Jun 08 12:09:01 * * OE Bug 2445 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by polyonymous@klever.net Jun 08 12:09:03 * *  Problems during parsing Jun 08 12:09:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2445 Jun 08 12:11:07 steliosk: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/535907099/ Jun 08 12:14:07 bbl Jun 08 12:15:30 koen: got board? Jun 08 12:15:36 polyonymous: I still see the uqtreader error Jun 08 12:15:45 hrw: the one I bought myself, yes Jun 08 12:15:52 69usd? Jun 08 12:15:57 the other one should be here in a few weeks Jun 08 12:16:00 hrw: yes Jun 08 12:16:25 + €16 tax Jun 08 12:16:30 koen: what plans for it (other then checking angstrom/avr32)? Jun 08 12:16:59 usbnet route Jun 08 12:17:01 r Jun 08 12:17:19 * koen needs to check if usb is host or not Jun 08 12:17:28 looks like device only Jun 08 12:17:59 in that case, it will become a firewall Jun 08 12:18:56 silly me, error was in the recipe, misplaced " Jun 08 12:25:36 * koen tries to find the GPL offer in the ngw box Jun 08 12:26:46 koen: tested rootfs? Jun 08 12:27:23 only the one in flash Jun 08 12:28:05 dropbear, samba, ftpd, dnsmasq Jun 08 12:32:22 zecke|study, I don't... Jun 08 12:39:33 http://hacker.klever.net/files/opie-reader-xqt.png Jun 08 12:40:28 nice Jun 08 12:41:06 yup. One of the worst shortcomings of x11 for me and, I think, for CoreDump Jun 08 12:45:18 hi thesing Jun 08 12:45:30 hi hrw Jun 08 12:45:35 hi everybody Jun 08 12:47:36 * koen likes the ngw packaging: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/535817078/ Jun 08 12:48:05 funny. Jun 08 12:48:13 koen, seen the screenshot you asked for? Jun 08 12:48:26 polyonymous: yes, cool Jun 08 12:48:52 I looked at the new mmc-spi patches. They only apply to 2.6.23pre*. Unfortunately the old mmc-spi patch doesn't work for 2.6.22. Jun 08 12:48:55 koen, is there a screenshot applet for x11? I used xwd, but I'm not sure if it's the way to go. Jun 08 12:49:06 polyonymous: Screenshot? Jun 08 12:49:20 thesing, you mean, that's the name? Jun 08 12:49:31 polyonymous: ipkg install gpe-scap or add the 'screenshot' recipe from poky Jun 08 12:49:37 thesing: by 2.6.23pre you mean 2.6.22-rc? Jun 08 12:49:42 koen: gpe-scap works? Jun 08 12:49:45 ah ok, thanks. Jun 08 12:49:56 hrw: it works for save-to-file Jun 08 12:50:06 ah yes Jun 08 12:50:19 hrw: yes. Jun 08 12:50:54 * thesing wants to see screenshots too. ;) Jun 08 12:51:25 http://hacker.klever.net/files/opie-reader-xqt.png Jun 08 12:52:01 thanks. how stable is it? Jun 08 12:52:22 thesing: do you have those patches collected somewhere? Jun 08 12:52:35 thesing, not very stable yet, I've only hacked it together a couple of days ago. Jun 08 12:53:24 hrw: yes. but some are malformed. I can fix them and upload a tarball if you like. Jun 08 12:53:49 thesing: better upload patches itself so I can provide you 2.6.22-rc4 recipe Jun 08 12:53:53 koen: just got a AT32AP7000 dev board :-) Jun 08 12:54:08 ok Jun 08 12:55:01 cbrake: cool, the stk? Jun 08 12:55:29 koen: no, its the NGW100 (the $70 board) Jun 08 12:55:51 cbrake: the same as in my picture :) Jun 08 12:56:02 * cbrake looks ... Jun 08 12:56:04 cbrake: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/avr32-network-gateway-reference-design Jun 08 12:56:58 koen: yes, thats it Jun 08 12:58:46 hrw: if you provide me a recipe which include richards patches that are not 2.6.22-rc4 I can do the rest myself. Jun 08 12:59:15 thesing: tried 2.6.21 from poky + updating it to rc4? Jun 08 13:00:17 hrw: afaik rc4 is only available as git and I don't know how to handle git in oe. Jun 08 13:00:31 rc4 is patch available too Jun 08 13:00:48 http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/patch-2.6.22-rc4.bz2 Jun 08 13:00:56 XorA: http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterdam_bicycles/ Jun 08 13:01:31 * thesing should learn to read. Jun 08 13:04:12 * polyonymous is gone Jun 08 13:09:26 koen: heh heh, I have a Dutch friends who once cycled home from the office with a 2 PC's + monitors balanced on the back of his bike Jun 08 13:18:05 that's how I got my sparc 5 + 21" crt home :) Jun 08 13:29:27 bloody appraisals Jun 08 13:30:14 stupid questions like, Do you act in the best interests of the company and to high ethical standards. Who's bloody standards, Im pretty certain mine are different to the Born Again Christians CEOs Jun 08 13:31:00 Does anyone have experience with making builds for Python modules? Jun 08 13:32:47 I am making a build for simplejson, which uses setuptools. Jun 08 13:33:14 reach: packages/python has a large number of examples to steal :-) Jun 08 13:33:22 If I become a born again christion, do I get an extra birthday a year? Jun 08 13:33:23 And it wants to download the setuptools egg. Jun 08 13:33:48 I have looked at them, and none seems to be doing anything special. Jun 08 13:34:40 <_diego_>  Jun 08 13:34:50 But I haven't checked the corresponding python packages to see whether it is using setuptools. Jun 08 13:35:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r83d34c87... 10/ (1 packages/starling/starling_0.2.bb): starling: add 0.2 Jun 08 13:35:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra0950d4b... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gpe-synctool: add 0.2 Jun 08 13:36:00 ]Im afraid python is all black mambo to me Jun 08 13:36:19 reach: most of them use distutils iirc Jun 08 13:37:22 hrw: jsonutils does too. It just uses the setup tools to bootstrap things first. Jun 08 13:37:30 * koen is pondering about doing something like 'for i `find . -name */py` ; do sed -i -e s:${STAGING_BINDIR}:${bindir}:g' in distutils.bbclass Jun 08 13:37:51 koen: good idea Jun 08 13:38:05 reach: setup.py? from distutils.core import setup Jun 08 13:38:08 etc? Jun 08 13:38:13 Yes. Jun 08 13:38:30 !oebug 2446 Jun 08 13:38:32 * * Bug 2446, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-08 06:37 Jun 08 13:38:33 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: fbreader: cannot stat `data/help/MiniHelp.openzaurus.fb2 Jun 08 13:38:34 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2446 Jun 08 13:38:53 reach: then look at python-pygtk2 recipe for example Jun 08 13:39:00 * * OE Bug 2446 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 13:39:02 * * fbreader: cannot stat `data/help/MiniHelp.openzaurus.fb2 Jun 08 13:39:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2446 Jun 08 13:39:09 toptop Jun 08 13:39:17 reach: basically SRC_URI + "inherit distutils" will be minimal to build Jun 08 13:39:47 hrw: But it also does Jun 08 13:40:05 hrw: import ez_setup Jun 08 13:40:17 hrw: ez_setup.use_setuptools() Jun 08 13:40:38 hrw: from setuptools import setup, find_packages, Extension, Feature Jun 08 13:40:43 before the distutils commands. Jun 08 13:41:29 The ez_setup stuff bootstraps the setuputils by downloading it locally if it is not already installed. Jun 08 13:42:41 patch that part out (remove) Jun 08 13:43:09 Or maybe install it as a dependency once so that other packages can use it. Jun 08 13:43:33 hrw: I tried to update linux-rp_2.6.21.bb from poky to 2.6.22-rc4 but some of RPs patches don't apply. I can't fix them easily. Jun 08 13:43:39 Seems better than hacking each package that uses it. Jun 08 13:44:12 hrw: I better try to fix the old mmc_spi patch. There I know how it should work. Jun 08 13:44:31 reach: python-formencode is example of ez_setup Jun 08 13:44:40 reach: and has ez_setup patched out Jun 08 13:44:57 Yeah. But jsonutils actually uses some more functions from the package. Jun 08 13:45:17 then do what is needed Jun 08 13:45:25 thesing: ok Jun 08 13:46:13 hrw: I have a working build here, http://pastebin.ca/550519 which downloads the setuptools once Jun 08 13:47:04 hey reach, did you succeed with your mipsel board? Jun 08 13:47:06 hrw: I was wondering if there is a better way. I guess I will try making a separate build for setuputils. Jun 08 13:47:35 better Jun 08 13:47:38 Jin^eLD: Yes, finally, thanks to your help. Jun 08 13:47:53 no problem Jun 08 13:47:56 hrw: Better than patching every package. Jun 08 13:48:39 Jin^eLD: I had to try a whole bunch of combinations of glibc/gcc/binutils before I found the one that worked with my 2.4.20 kernel. Jun 08 13:49:08 reach: so my combo did not do the trick for you? Jun 08 13:49:27 another parse error Jun 08 13:49:32 !oebug 2447 Jun 08 13:49:33 * * Bug 2447, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-08 06:48 Jun 08 13:49:34 * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: another parse error Jun 08 13:49:35 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2447 Jun 08 13:49:52 polyonymous, Jun 08 13:50:00 * * OE Bug 2447 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 13:50:03 * * another parse error Jun 08 13:50:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2447 Jun 08 13:50:50 reach: 2.4.20?? what device? Jun 08 13:51:04 Jin^eLD: Unfortunately, no. I ended up with glibc + patches from the linux-mips.org mailing list, plus gcc 3.4.4, binutils 2.17.50.0.5, headers 2.6.16.99 Jun 08 13:51:51 hrw: it is a custom SOC, we are building the hardware around it. They are working on porting the drivers to 2.6, but it is not ready yet. Jun 08 13:52:22 reach: phu.. was surely a tough search Jun 08 13:53:16 Jin^eLD: Days and days of compiling. Jun 08 13:54:17 I have been posting patches, need to post some more.... Jun 08 13:56:23 My glibc was 2.3.3 Jun 08 13:58:45 I wish I would be able to port drivers into a newer kernel, then I could use decent versions of gcc/glibc in my setup Jun 08 14:01:38 Jin^eLD: Yup. The lack of NPTL pthreads is a real pain. I am writing some drivers now, but porting everything is lower priority to getting the product done. Jun 08 14:03:00 driver writing is a skill I currently miss :> Jun 08 14:03:39 the most difficult part for me was to understand this cryptic TLS message upon startup, once I figured it out it was just about picking the right version Jun 08 14:04:54 Jin^eLD: same here. In theory, linuxthreads is supported under glibc-2.5, but I don't think it really works. I found some patches, but it still didn't work. And it is officially unsupported going forward. Jun 08 14:08:32 gtk+ on avr32: http://www.flickr.com/photos/larsgard/194083083/ Jun 08 14:17:23 koen: have you ever encountered a problem that ipkg list_installed returns a version older than in the feed, but ipkg upgrade does not install the new version because it thinks that the new version is already installed, allthough it is not? Jun 08 14:17:28 any hints on where I could start digging? Jun 08 14:17:43 haven't seen that yet Jun 08 14:18:03 I wonder what I have messedup Jun 08 14:19:22 hrw: http://rafb.net/p/Qy3eQE91.html Jun 08 14:19:49 Jin^eLD: what version of ipkg are you running? I wonder if maybe one of psokolovsky's recent speedups introduced a subtle bug Jun 08 14:20:31 ipkg version 0.99.163 Jun 08 14:22:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r642929e9... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): python-pygtk2 2.10.3: remove references to build paths Jun 08 14:25:53 Jin^eLD: hmmm, you might want to try re-building ipkg with the last two patches commented out to see if that fixes your problem. Jun 08 14:25:58 koen: where you bought Gateway? Jun 08 14:26:09 hvontres|poodle: ok let me try that.. Jun 08 14:26:22 * hvontres|poodle is just poking in the dark here Jun 08 14:26:35 I'm poking in the dark for the last week now Jun 08 14:26:45 :) Jun 08 14:28:09 hrw: http://www.arrownac.com/ Jun 08 14:28:33 couldn't find an european source that was cheaper than $69 + tax + shipping Jun 08 14:29:27 alsa/alsa-state.bb: FILES_${PN} = "/etc/*" <== is it ok? Jun 08 14:29:40 slapin_fs: no Jun 08 14:29:55 s:/etc:${sysconfdir}:g Jun 08 14:34:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd922a3ad... 10/ (1 classes/distutils.bbclass): distutils.bbclass: add some magic to remove paths pointing to buildsystems directories Jun 08 14:35:33 CoreDump|home: putting MAINTAINER inside recipes has been abolished for some months now, so could you please stop doing as well? Jun 08 14:35:47 CoreDump|home: and also stop adding bogus HOMEPAGE entries Jun 08 14:36:04 CoreDump|home: and use proper vars in FILES, not "/etc" Jun 08 14:36:24 right, as if /etc is going to change anytime soon... Jun 08 14:36:46 that's not the point Jun 08 14:36:56 people might change ${prefix{ Jun 08 14:38:38 hvontres|poodle: which patches exactly would be that? the ones I should comment out? Jun 08 14:38:55 e.g /opt maniacs want files in /opt/etc Jun 08 14:40:18 the two Optimize things I gues? Jun 08 14:41:26 i just did a fresh install of oe and building angstrom because i had this error, but i'm still getting it, any idea what causes it: /usr/libexec/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ld: warning: ld-linux.so.3, needed by /opt/OE/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/../../../../arm-angst Jun 08 14:41:36 rom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libc.so.6, not found Jun 08 14:41:46 it is there though Jun 08 14:42:29 Hello, I have problems building uboot 1.1.4 for gumstix. (http://rafb.net/p/ZCXAlx35.html) basically it ends because of an EABI version mismatch. also, its built in the wrong directory (i think), in armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi instead of gumstix-angstrom-linux-gnueabi. Jun 08 14:43:49 is anyone using WPA2 on debian here? Jun 08 14:44:26 how ${base_sbindir} differentiate from ${sbindir}? Jun 08 14:44:41 one is usally /sbin, the other /usr/sbin Jun 08 14:45:20 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r90597be9... 10/ (1 packages/alsa/alsa-state.bb): Jun 08 14:45:20 alsa-state: Jun 08 14:45:20 * remove MAINTAINER, this field has been deprecated for some months now Jun 08 14:45:20 * remove HOMEPAGE, since is a bogus value Jun 08 14:45:20 * moved sections to try to conform to the styleguide Jun 08 14:45:21 * removed a zillion spurious '#' that made my eyes bleed Jun 08 14:45:52 so, base_dir ~=/sbin and sbindir ~=/usr/sbin, am I right? Jun 08 14:46:42 slapin_fs: check bitbake.conf Jun 08 14:47:54 zecke|study: what's your opinion on http://rafb.net/p/NE3BxV42.html ? Jun 08 14:48:00 bbl Jun 08 14:48:02 :} Jun 08 14:52:10 Jin^eLD: yeah, sorry, I was afk for a bit Jun 08 14:55:28 thx, alredy rebuilt it, will test now Jun 08 14:57:01 * * OE Bug 2448 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 14:57:03 * * Fix of direct /etc/ references for xserver-kdrive-common/* Jun 08 14:57:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2448 Jun 08 15:00:31 http://www.ueverest.com/camp_life.aspx?postId=19 Jun 08 15:00:55 time for an expedition using only OE powered devices :) Jun 08 15:02:13 koen: so their normal failure was harddisks, most OE devices survive that then Jun 08 15:02:39 XorA: did you have a chance to look at the make-nk thing? Jun 08 15:02:40 hardisk and batteries Jun 08 15:02:59 Jin^eLD: a quick glance, but today has been spent doing appraisal Jun 08 15:03:44 would be good if we could make this more generic, so it would work with more hardware Jun 08 15:03:48 How do I make the cross compile tools use autoconf 2.61/ Jun 08 15:03:50 ? Jun 08 15:03:52 would be quite a useful tool Jun 08 15:04:00 Jin^eLD: yeah Jun 08 15:06:22 steliosk: mesa compiled Jun 08 15:06:55 * koen can't wait to have proper 3D on the efika Jun 08 15:09:01 * * OE Bug 2449 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 15:09:03 * * webcam-server:removed MAINTAINER field Jun 08 15:09:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2449 Jun 08 15:14:18 koen : good. we need to look at enchant now Jun 08 15:15:04 heh i think they need to put a new warning on ups... Jun 08 15:15:22 don't move around... danger of power transistors falling off Jun 08 15:16:09 * steliosk now knows what was that sound inside the ups Jun 08 15:17:00 hmm, does anyone have staging/arm/include/sys/capability.h Jun 08 15:18:37 XorA: not on my latest mx31ads angstrom build Jun 08 15:18:44 latest as in last week Jun 08 15:18:58 hmm, odd as pulseaudio requires it to compile and no-one seems to have complained Jun 08 15:24:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf184f34b... 10/ (20 files in 15 dirs): lots of packages: remove MAINTAINER field Jun 08 15:30:34 psokolovsky_, 2447 is not fixed, you're wrong, I get it again Jun 08 15:35:26 * koen scratches head Jun 08 15:35:50 when I ask for a quilt tree I get a devboard in return Jun 08 15:36:20 morning Jun 08 15:36:27 koen: sounds like a good deal, no? ;) Jun 08 15:36:29 hey chouimat Jun 08 15:36:43 Jin^eLD: I actually want the quilt tree :) Jun 08 15:36:48 hehe :) Jun 08 15:37:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf20a9853... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): pulse: unify Jun 08 15:41:46 So I have looked into building setuptools before building simplejson. It builds fine, but it needs to get staged somewhere, otherwise simplejson won't see it. I guess that it should just be installed "normally" (no --prefix stuff) by the ${STAGIN_BINDIR_NATIVE}/python. Then it would end up in, e.g. .../tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/lib/python2.4/site-packages. Does that sound right? Jun 08 16:11:58 chouimat: morning. :) So here is a bit of irony: a bunch of canadiens and a fin steal Lord Stanly's cup away from Canada and put in Sunny California :) Jun 08 16:12:19 hvontres|poodle: hehe Jun 08 16:12:51 hvontres|poodle: I doubt before they got the LA team nobody heard of hockey in California ... Jun 08 16:13:07 chouimat: next up: the SoCal curling league and it's bid for world domination :) Jun 08 16:13:19 chouimat: hehe, and now we have TWO teams :) Jun 08 16:13:34 !oebug 2295 Jun 08 16:13:35 * * Bug 2295, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-10 05:27 Jun 08 16:13:36 * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: do_package fails for fortune-mod non-x86 targets Jun 08 16:13:37 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2295 Jun 08 16:13:45 hvontres|poodle: hehe ... anyway I'm in Ottawa and personnaly I think the best team won the cup ... Jun 08 16:13:52 ^ somehow dirty patch attached Jun 08 16:42:25 cu Jun 08 16:56:15 gallery/gallery_1.5.5.bb: rm -rf ${DEST_DIR}/gallery /etc/apache2/modules.d/95_gallery.conf <=== is it ok? Jun 08 16:58:20 dang :E ... ntp / tickadj si broken with uclibc Jun 08 16:58:31 * slapin_nb thinks it is too much to remove config file on package removal Jun 08 16:59:06 slapin_fs, it should stay there till you purge the package Jun 08 17:10:54 slapin_nb: looks bogus to me Jun 08 17:11:07 slapin_nb: ask hopsnbarley when he comes back online Jun 08 17:14:02 * * OE Bug 2450 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 17:14:04 * * gallery: cleanup fix, replaced direct directory names with variables Jun 08 17:14:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2450 Jun 08 17:21:01 * * OE Bug 2451 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com Jun 08 17:21:03 * * gpe-helpviewer cleanup: replaced direct directory names use with variables Jun 08 17:21:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2451 Jun 08 17:38:38 I need to interact with the user from a shell script in order to perform some initialization at first boot of a device -- is there already a shell scripting 'package' or set of functions use by OE devices for this? Jun 08 17:39:43 I'm hoping for nothing more complicated than a simple text menu, and the ability for a user to answer y/n questions, and possibly provide a pathname... Jun 08 17:40:00 (Multi-language support is not necessary, but would be a great extra feature!) Jun 08 17:40:45 mwester: something statically linked with ncurses, or would that be too big? Jun 08 17:41:01 crap, timed out Jun 08 17:41:18 if anyone answered something to the ipkg issue, please repeat :) Jun 08 17:41:54 koen: I don't think we have ncurses in the base firmware image :( Jun 08 17:42:16 * mwester confirms that the flash is nearly full, and doesn't have ncurses. Jun 08 17:43:06 mwester: Thats why he wrote "statical linked". Jun 08 17:45:29 thesing: Sorry, I'm jumping ahead. Assuming that we don't have space for a large binary, if ncurses was in the base, the app could be smaller. Jun 08 17:47:14 mwester: but you would need the full ncurses lib. if you link it statically you only need the functions you use. And you save some stubs. Jun 08 17:47:34 mwester: so binary+lib is bigger than statical linked binary. Jun 08 17:47:46 Good point. Jun 08 18:21:04 mwester: you could take a look at what i did for altboot_1.08+1.09_pre.. it's a small curses app that takes in a string of menu opitons and lets the user select one. I haven't had much luck trying to get to compile staticly tho... Jun 08 18:21:22 polyonymous: I am going through the local changes here in the hope to find something that makes qt4-x11-free break Jun 08 18:21:34 mwester: but that could just be me...:) Jun 08 18:21:39 polyonymous: Output from mtn status is at http://paste.stgraber.org/1474 Jun 08 18:22:51 I think the only real possible culprits are 19,20, 41, 42 and 43. If you want I can paste the diff for these files. Jun 08 18:24:36 where does ipkg keep the list of currently installed packages? any ideas? Jun 08 18:25:00 /usr/lib/ipk/status IIRC Jun 08 18:26:07 thanks! Jun 08 18:26:57 and do you know where it keeps the hashes? Jun 08 18:27:16 no Jun 08 18:27:17 Laibsch: 41,42 and 43 don't matter for builds Jun 08 18:27:39 mhm.. the package in status is correct, so still a mystery why it compares the wrong package version when upgrading Jun 08 18:27:41 Jin^eLD: but you could inspect the files inside the ipk with "dpkg --contents" Jun 08 18:28:18 huh? Jun 08 18:28:35 ipkg packages are undercover .debs :) Jun 08 18:28:47 yes.. I used ar x to unpack them Jun 08 18:28:47 :) Jun 08 18:29:08 but the problem I have is not really related to the package contents, at least so I think Jun 08 18:29:18 koen: Thanks. Am I wrong to assume they would be relevant for an opie build, no? Especially 43 Jun 08 18:29:31 Jin^eLD: You asked where the hashes are stored Jun 08 18:29:44 Take a look at what files are shipped. Maybe it is in there. Jun 08 18:29:56 But it probably is a dynamically created file. Jun 08 18:30:06 aah, so its in each package? I thought ipkg is building hashes of all installed packages and is keeping them somewhere Jun 08 18:30:37 * Laibsch points to "dynamically created" Jun 08 18:30:43 mhmm Jun 08 18:30:49 dynamically created out of what? Jun 08 18:30:56 Laibsch: qemu is only used for glibc packaging Jun 08 18:31:15 for some reason, it thinks that the newer packge is already installed; I thought maybe status was screwed, but list_installed shows the old version correctly, and status is ok too Jun 08 18:31:15 OK Jun 08 18:32:15 somehow the "comparing visible versions of pkg" does weird sstuff Jun 08 18:41:55 koen: http://paste.stgraber.org/1478 is the diff for the relevant files Jun 08 18:42:31 * Laibsch just found out again that "mtn (status|ls changed|ls unknown)" does not tell you the whole truth Jun 08 18:42:55 revert the change to insane.bbclass Jun 08 18:43:13 koen: I can safely revert all those changes, I was only trying out the qemu bug proposed patch Jun 08 18:43:53 koen: Which packages will I need to rebuild ba hand? Jun 08 18:44:02 ehm Jun 08 18:44:24 due to that insane.bbclass change pretty much "all" Jun 08 18:45:09 OK, I will clean out tmp Jun 08 18:45:16 * Laibsch sighs Jun 08 18:46:33 Laibsch: time to fire off bitbake -k and go to pub :) Jun 08 18:48:21 -k? Jun 08 18:48:47 continue on error Jun 08 19:14:19 Laibsch, I don't think that either one you mentioned may actually break the build. I haven't read the whole list, though. I'd suggest also that you wait a bit and don't waste your time on it right now. Jun 08 19:15:20 polyonymous: I depend on it for something I want to build Jun 08 19:16:00 Laibsch, that's exactly why I don't want you to waste your time on it now. It still needs a few fixes in order to build upon it. Jun 08 19:17:08 * Laibsch is not good with patience Jun 08 19:18:13 Laibsch, but buildable qt wasn't there for ages and you waited :) Jun 08 19:20:00 well, this was coincidenc Jun 08 19:20:03 e Jun 08 19:20:11 And no, I did not wait Jun 08 19:20:19 Laibsch, actually, I understand you well, I'm also impatient :) Jun 08 19:20:30 I stumbled across something interesting at the beginning of this week Jun 08 19:20:35 hehe Jun 08 19:20:40 Therefore, I would also like to get qt4 finished asap :) Jun 08 19:37:51 How do you like this linux driver download: http://www.genius-europe.com/treiber/Look316-Linux265.exe ? ;-)) Jun 08 19:45:28 lol :) Jun 08 19:46:01 * * OE Bug 2452 has been created by jim.sheldon@gmail.com Jun 08 19:46:03 * * New recipe - ifplugd 0.28 Jun 08 19:46:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2452 Jun 08 19:58:11 ~seen mr_data Jun 08 19:59:18 no ibot? Jun 08 20:11:43 thesing: hmm, guess not... Jun 08 20:12:29 I remember that he was to get a new server. Perhaps thats today. Jun 08 20:18:55 thesing: That's my guess too Jun 08 20:19:31 maybe now he won't lag so bad :) Jun 08 20:26:04 rror: jffs2_decompress returned -5 Jun 08 20:26:05 JFFS2 compression type 0x07 not available. which one is that ? lzo zlib or rtime ? Jun 08 20:31:31 should be lzo right ? Jun 08 20:34:05 rob__w: I think that is lzo. I was getting that error when I tried to use a jffs fs with a non-lzo kernel after using it with an lzo kernel. Jun 08 20:35:06 turning off lzo at mkfs.jffs2 make a 5242880 size image , before including lzo it was 5701632 .. Jun 08 20:36:10 rob__w: does your kernel support lzo? Jun 08 20:36:21 doenst seem so yet Jun 08 20:36:30 i started to work this device today Jun 08 20:37:14 its an ixp425 cpu , new to me Jun 08 20:39:58 Freeing init memory: 96K .. and it stops .. crap Jun 08 21:11:08 * CosmicPenguin kicks python-pygobject hard Jun 08 21:12:09 I declare python and all its derivatives to forever more be my enemy Jun 08 21:19:50 compiling -rc kernels is quite adventurous. Jun 08 21:25:14 * CoreDump|home has decided for himself to skip .21 and .22-rc* completely Jun 08 21:26:51 I would do the same, but koes said that SDHC support was added in .21 but the mmc-spi patch fails there. So I try .22-rc. Jun 08 21:27:21 They remove support for the sharp flash chips in 22-rc :( Jun 08 21:27:59 :( Jun 08 21:28:23 * CoreDump|home has one of these high-speed SD cards that won't work on his Z Jun 08 21:28:59 Good to know. You still have your collie, right? Jun 08 21:30:24 yeah Jun 08 21:30:29 thesing: any reason why they removed the sharp flash support in .22-rc ? Jun 08 21:31:50 I think they folded it into some other driver. But our hack to support flash on collie doesn't work anymore. But maybe they just moved files. Jun 08 21:32:01 I'm on it. Jun 08 22:22:47 night all Jun 09 00:09:27 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r01a7243c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): qmake2-native: reworked for qt 4.3.0 Jun 09 00:09:33 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r66da92b8... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb): qt 4.3.0: some more small fixes Jun 09 00:22:22 hi from akita - pidgin ^_^ Jun 09 01:10:17 morning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 09 02:59:57 2007