**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 16 02:59:56 2007 Jun 16 06:33:18 hmmm.. qtopia is actually compiling Jun 16 06:51:14 * ljp waits impatiently as qtopia builds Jun 16 06:53:31 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf1b6671d... 10/ (24 files in 19 dirs): different packages: add support for Dreambox DM500+ Jun 16 06:53:36 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r7c176ec9... 10/ (1 packages/gtkmm/gtkmm_2.4.8.bb removal.txt): gtkmm: remove version 2.4.8 as announced. Closes 1148. Jun 16 06:53:41 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf8812dcf... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: add tomoe to my entry. Jun 16 06:53:48 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rdf7ee1cc... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): tomoe: hardwire mirror for Japanese sourceforge Jun 16 06:53:53 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r5b2d1b9b... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): checksums.ini: correct entries and update URI for three tomoe tar files Jun 16 06:54:00 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0dce4b0... 10/ (1 packages/udev/udev.inc): Jun 16 06:54:00 udev: disable parallel compilation Jun 16 06:54:00 while we're at it, clean up a little Jun 16 06:54:04 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r0d0c7518... 10/ (1 packages/vte/vte_0.11.15.bb): vte 0.11.15 increase packaging granularity Jun 16 06:54:09 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r13d4cd86... 10/ (1 packages/gtkterm packages/gtkterm/gtkterm2_0.2.3.bb): add gtkterm, a lightweight gtk-based terminal emulator Jun 16 06:54:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4da5e905... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): linux 2.6.2x: unify and add deploy for u-boot machines Jun 16 06:54:22 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2ce5e421... 10/ (25 files in 3 dirs): busybox-static 1.2.1: Re-aad override dir prioperly with files. Jun 16 06:54:28 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r9f202064... 10/ (1 packages/libgpevtype/libgpevtype_0.50.bb): Jun 16 06:54:28 libgpevtype 0.50: Add dependency on libtododb. Jun 16 06:54:28 * Fixes #2485. Jun 16 06:54:32 03slapinid 07org.oe.dev * r6cae67d8... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): gpe-announce 0.13: Fix for libsoundgen 0.5. Jun 16 06:54:36 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rdc9f7f65... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): Jun 16 06:54:36 angstrom-2007.1.conf: Set kernel version for PocketPC's: Jun 16 06:54:36 * Ones without flash support - to 2.6.21-hh7 (latest) Jun 16 06:54:37 * Ones with flash support - to 2.6.20-hh6 (.21 has known issues with mtd) Jun 16 06:54:39 * Default - 2.6.20-hh6 (previous, 2.6.16 is *very* old). Jun 16 06:54:45 03sirfred 07org.oe.dev * rd1225d78... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jun 16 06:54:45 xserver-kdrive-imageon X11R7.1-1.1.0 : XV Port changes, cleanups Jun 16 06:54:45 * Avoid recalculation of surface boundaries when possible Jun 16 06:54:47 * Cleanups and optimizations in support functions Jun 16 06:54:51 * More rational APIs for blitting functions. Jun 16 06:54:53 * Release bumped up to r2 Jun 16 06:54:55 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r27867896... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.20: Add V4L support to defconfig-spitz and defconfig-akita to enable (beside other stuff) USB webcams Jun 16 06:54:58 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * rf3c17f08... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gspcav1: Add the required video modules to RRECOMMENDS Jun 16 06:55:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd0f3ca98... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox2/matchbox-panel-2_svn.bb): matchbox-panel-2: enable startupmonitor applet Jun 16 06:55:06 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf766b929... 10/ (1 packages/anthy/anthy_7811.bb): anthy: improve packaging, some reordering of fields to clean up Jun 16 06:55:09 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r8b898d09... 10/ (1 packages/uim/uim-native_1.3.1.bb): uim: fix S in native package Jun 16 06:55:13 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r20f86cce... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 16 06:55:14 qemu: apply patch from bug 2157 Jun 16 06:55:16 * enables compilation of qemu-native with gcc4 Jun 16 06:55:20 * disables gcc version check Jun 16 06:55:22 * mail has been sent to the list to let everybody know Jun 16 06:55:24 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r82c93f18... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): konqueror-embedded: don't use kde-config while configuring. Jun 16 06:55:27 03sirfred 07org.oe.dev * rdcf5a8a0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jun 16 06:55:29 xserver-kdrive-imageon X11R7.1-1.1.0 : Fixes a bug in randr coordinates Jun 16 06:55:31 transformation Jun 16 06:55:33 Bumped up package version Jun 16 06:56:03 * * OE Bug 2494 has been created by jayakumar.video(AT)gmail.com Jun 16 06:56:05 * * intltool build fails due to PV naming difference Jun 16 06:56:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2494 Jun 16 08:10:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3c0e078e... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux_2.6.21+2.6.22-rc1.bb): linux 2.6.22rc1: fix version Jun 16 08:11:44 morning Jun 16 08:17:23 gnaaaaaa Jun 16 08:17:40 windows decides to reboot during a reflash cycle Jun 16 08:18:18 koen: omg Jun 16 08:18:26 koen: Good luck Jun 16 08:20:00 koen, windows? Jun 16 08:29:06 dcordes: yes, the flash tool for this board run in windows.. Jun 16 08:29:18 oh i see Jun 16 08:29:35 Hmm, pidgin refuses to depend on libpurple. It seems it prefers libpurple0 Jun 16 08:29:57 I have never understood this naming conventions for library packages. Jun 16 08:30:14 I think it's taken from .so version Jun 16 08:30:22 libpurple0 is the correct one Jun 16 08:30:29 good morning all Jun 16 08:30:30 (at runtime) Jun 16 08:30:34 hey steliosk Jun 16 08:31:10 koen: Where do the magic generating those names reside? Jun 16 08:31:12 koen : msoft has installed a new "linux developer in proximity" sensor that reboots windows when they detect something like that Jun 16 08:31:37 it's in order to protect them from further patend problems :) Jun 16 08:32:33 sirfred: debian.bbclass Jun 16 08:33:05 koen: Thanks, I'll take a look and try to fix this. Jun 16 08:35:02 fix what? Jun 16 08:36:12 sirfred|afk: that's stinking debian renaming, due to which bitbake 1.8 nwo builds me 3Gb more stuff than 1.6. ;-E Jun 16 08:36:17 ~lart debian renaming Jun 16 08:36:18 * ibot steals debian renaming's mojo Jun 16 08:37:14 ibot: try harder Jun 16 08:37:16 why is it resulting in size increase? Jun 16 08:38:28 polyonymous: because kinda it needs all packages subject to renaming, to figure out *resulting package name*(!!) - even if it's not used in image actually Jun 16 08:39:07 uhm... sounds scary Jun 16 08:39:51 worse... Jun 16 08:40:13 wait, does it mean that no matter what you're building it builds all packages subject to renaming? Jun 16 08:48:24 Is there a way for a complete "off-line" build when there are packages that use git ? Jun 16 08:51:25 polyonymous: well, all or not all, hard to say, more than needed - for sure. RP knows details... Jun 16 08:51:49 not that I want to know all the details :) Jun 16 08:58:17 if you RDEPEND on a recipe containing tasks, it will build all packages mentioned in those tasks Jun 16 08:58:58 the moral of the story: don't put a bunch of tasks in one recipe Jun 16 09:00:02 steliosk: http://rafb.net/p/eIeujZ88.html Jun 16 09:01:40 koen: bunch of packages you mean? because tasks are usually standard... Jun 16 09:02:04 no, a bunch of tasks Jun 16 09:02:48 e.g. if you REPDEPEND on _one_ task from angstrom-task-x11.bb it will build _all_ tasks inside that recipe and hence all packages mentioned Jun 16 09:03:25 aha, I see. so who's put that bunch to angstrom-task-x11.bb? ;-) Jun 16 09:04:09 a complete and utter idiot Jun 16 09:04:11 (me) Jun 16 09:04:13 lol Jun 16 09:04:35 this is why I split task-boot out of task-base Jun 16 09:06:03 hi, how can I fix this in an oe way: Jun 16 09:06:04 configure:11213: checking for Xpm 3.4g or better Jun 16 09:06:04 configure:11221: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling Jun 16 09:06:07 :)? Jun 16 09:07:31 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2842d1cc... 10/ (1 packages/xkbd/xkbd-layout-ru_0.1.1.bb): xkbd-layout-ru 0.1.1: Nice Russian layout for xkbd. Jun 16 09:07:35 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r6dae9587... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-todo/gpe-todo_svn.bb): gpe-todo svn: SCM unpinned packages are always DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1". Jun 16 09:08:13 filip, sounds familiar... what are you building? Jun 16 09:08:47 polyonymous: fvwm Jun 16 09:09:00 polyonymous: own bb file, no such one in oe repository Jun 16 09:09:15 ah... well, then patch your configure or disable xpm or whatever :) Jun 16 09:09:51 hmm, not a bad idea :) Jun 16 09:10:03 * * OE Bug 2495 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Jun 16 09:10:05 * * akita backlight off after suspend. Jun 16 09:10:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2495 Jun 16 09:17:03 * * OE Bug 2496 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Jun 16 09:17:05 * * pidgin missing gstreamer >= 0.10.12 Jun 16 09:17:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2496 Jun 16 09:17:34 pidgin missing gstreamer? Jun 16 09:18:05 ah Jun 16 09:18:26 polyonymous, that's what it's saying. Jun 16 09:19:00 dcordes__, yes, it looks though like missing gstreamer pkg in the feed. Jun 16 09:19:28 ok Jun 16 09:25:02 * * OE Bug 2496 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2448 by koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl Jun 16 09:25:04 * *  pidgin missing gstreamer >= 0.10.12 Jun 16 09:25:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2496 Jun 16 09:26:11 I was searching before I filed it. Gave me nothing Jun 16 09:26:21 koen, what does one bug have to do with the other? Jun 16 09:26:34 polyonymous: fat fingers Jun 16 09:26:39 2438 is the one Jun 16 09:26:41 :) Jun 16 09:28:01 btw, dcordes__, I'm pretty sure there is a number of bugs concerning akita backlight too. Jun 16 09:30:52 * dcordes ducks Jun 16 09:35:36 hmm... now pidgin doesn't build for me at all. Jun 16 09:35:56 But I suspect I need to wipe out my tmp before even trying to fix it. Jun 16 09:42:09 psokolovsky_: do_package_write[rdeptask] = "" or do_package_write_pn-task-gpe[rdeptask] = "" might be some useful constructs to play with ;-) Jun 16 09:42:39 * RP isn't sure if the second version will work or not Jun 16 09:46:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc814ecb6... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: add feedarch for at91sam9263ek Jun 16 09:46:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf93dd65f... 10/ (12 files in 2 dirs): angstrom: split up task-angstrom-x11 in to multiple recipes to stop bitbake 1.8 from building unneeded packages Jun 16 09:52:08 psokolovsky_: It doesn't work due to the similar definition in image.bbclass :/ Jun 16 10:20:03 * * OE Bug 2497 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz Jun 16 10:20:05 * * meta-bug: WLAN stuff Jun 16 10:20:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2497 Jun 16 10:20:15 * * OE Bug 2498 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Jun 16 10:20:17 * * can't run horizon due to faulty ~ path Jun 16 10:20:19 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2498 Jun 16 10:24:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * raae9d030... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox2/matchbox-desktop-2_svn.bb): matchbox-desktop-2: add matchbox-desktop-2 Jun 16 10:24:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1f133cbc... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/gtk+_2.10.12.bb packages/gtk+/gtk-2.10.inc): gtk+: fix RRECOMMENDS Jun 16 10:48:12 * Laibsch points Zero_Chaos to bug 2361 Jun 16 10:48:24 The comments made there should be nothing new for you Jun 16 10:48:46 man, I hate those people Jun 16 10:49:16 ~lart Zero_Chaos for being a nuisance Jun 16 10:49:16 * ibot turns Zero_Chaos into a lifesized tux doll for being a nuisance Jun 16 10:50:04 Zero_Chaos: I created bug 2497 just so that you are a bit happier Jun 16 10:50:52 If anyone from the core OE devs develops an interest in the wifi cracking stuff they will find all of it conveniently in central location at Jun 16 10:50:57 !oebug 2497 Jun 16 10:50:59 * * Bug 2497, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-16 03:18 Jun 16 10:51:00 * * : meta-bug: Wifi Jun 16 10:51:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2497 Jun 16 10:51:23 Wow, cdbot2 just got smarter ;-) Jun 16 10:51:31 CoreDump|home: Is that you? Jun 16 10:52:11 !oebug 2498 Jun 16 10:52:12 * * Bug 2498, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-16 03:19 Jun 16 10:52:13 * * lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de: can't run horizon due to faulty ~ path Jun 16 10:52:14 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2498 Jun 16 10:52:21 he does s/email/nickname for known email addresses now Jun 16 10:52:29 nice! Jun 16 10:52:32 yes, that is what I figured Jun 16 10:52:35 Cool thing! Jun 16 10:52:41 ;) Jun 16 10:52:41 well done! Jun 16 10:52:51 thanks Jun 16 10:59:21 It is good to see the bots coming back ;-) Jun 16 11:00:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r79d5317c... 10/ (1 packages/xtscal/xtscal.inc packages/xtscal/xtscal_0.6.3.bb): xtscal: recommend a font Jun 16 11:00:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r92e57eba... 10/ (15 files in 4 dirs): busybox: add 1.6.0 Jun 16 11:01:57 Makes you see how productive koen is ;-) Jun 16 11:02:14 * Laibsch waves at koen on a Saturday morning Jun 16 11:11:06 the bots are back in town Jun 16 11:19:11 hey Laibsch Jun 16 11:19:26 * koen is searching for his cf-usb card Jun 16 11:21:51 I should stop cleaning up my desk Jun 16 11:22:08 it only leads to stuff disappearing Jun 16 11:25:46 koen, could you explain what you mean by upstream source? Jun 16 11:25:56 in 2498 Jun 16 11:30:39 dcordes: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/horizon/ Jun 16 11:39:03 koen, could you still help me with the problem? Jun 16 11:39:33 it doesn't make much sense having it in the sources when there is no functionallity Jun 16 11:42:03 in the repos I mean Jun 16 11:44:18 mkdir /media/mmc1 Jun 16 11:44:23 problem solved Jun 16 11:44:26 dcordes, I'm guessing koen means whatever is working as expected Jun 16 11:44:39 and you need to talk to the upstream devs Jun 16 11:48:31 now it segfaults Jun 16 11:48:59 . gtttttttttttttt Jun 16 11:54:21 Crofton, ? Jun 16 11:55:05 yo Jun 16 11:59:07 dcordes: so...does the webcam driver compile for you now? Jun 16 12:00:00 * dcordes trying to compile gspcav1 Jun 16 12:00:50 don't forget to pull & update Jun 16 12:05:07 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1ce330db... 10/ (1 classes/sdk.bbclass): sdk.bbclass: Remove unneeded PACKAGES, use DISTRO in SDK_NAME, set PACKAGE_ARCH to something which doesn't conflict with normal packages (from Poky) Jun 16 12:05:14 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc306b5d3... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-package-cross.inc): gcc-package-cross: Remove bogus PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Jun 16 12:05:22 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rcce2293e... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross-initial_3.3.3.bb): gcc-cross-initial_3.3.3: Set empty PACKAGES (from poky) Jun 16 12:05:29 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * reb2c933d... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross-sdk_4.1.2.bb): gcc-cross-sdk 4.1.2: Cleanup (from poky) Jun 16 12:05:36 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd95eebfc... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-gpe.bb packages/tasks/task-sdk-base.bb): task-sdk-base: Fix libgcc name Jun 16 12:05:44 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1533fdbe... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk.bb): meta-sdk: Update to use new sdk PACKAGE_ARCH (from Poky) Jun 16 12:05:47 RP: yay! Jun 16 12:06:14 * koen removes 'sdk stuff' from tomorrows todo list Jun 16 12:06:35 hi all Jun 16 12:06:43 is the OE wiki blocked for new registrations atm? Jun 16 12:06:45 koen: I've not synced the guts of meta-toolchain since what Poky is doing is a bit different from OE's version Jun 16 12:06:51 CoreDump|home, it does more than before but function do_compile failed Jun 16 12:07:10 RP: I suspect that reb2c933d... / (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross-sdk_4.1.2.bb): gcc-cross-sdk 4.1.2: Cleanup (from poky) is wrong, though Jun 16 12:07:12 don't forget to pull & update Jun 16 12:07:20 I did Jun 16 12:07:24 koen: Why? Jun 16 12:07:48 successful exchange with monotone.openembedded.org Jun 16 12:07:49 koen: Compare the contents of that file with the contents of the included gcc_4.1.2.bb Jun 16 12:07:54 you removed the SRC_URI, which means the fail-fast patch will get applied Jun 16 12:08:03 mtn pull; mtn update; bitbake gspcav1 Jun 16 12:08:15 RP: which breaks scratchbox Jun 16 12:08:54 koen: That line is in gcc-cross_* and gcc-cross-sdk doesn't include it? Jun 16 12:09:20 dcordes: try "bitbake -c rebuild -b gspcav1/gspcav1_20070110.bb" Jun 16 12:09:44 RP: "gcc-cross-sdk: add 4.1.2 with its own SRC_URI to remove zecke-xgcc-cpp and failfast patches" Jun 16 12:10:09 CoreDump|home, Exception: Message:('Function failed in task: /home/erdinger/OE/build/tmp/akita/work/akita-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gspcav1-20070110-r1/temp/log.do_compile.13364', ) Jun 16 12:10:10 fwiw, your kernel should have been rebuilt as well Jun 16 12:10:28 hmm, I have written this: http://filip.eu.org/jornada/bb/fvwm_2.5.21.bb Jun 16 12:10:37 and fixac doesn't work at all. configure.tmp isn't created Jun 16 12:10:40 is this normal? Jun 16 12:10:41 RP: iirc the zecke-xgcc-cpp.patch;patch=1 breaks the sdk on amd64 Jun 16 12:11:05 koen: That comment is wrong, failfast is not added. The zecke patch is though, I couldn't see why that would break it :/ Jun 16 12:11:08 dcordes: what does "cat linux/linux-rp_2.6.20.bb |grep PR" say? Jun 16 12:11:44 koen: Surely if that breaks on amd64, it does so across the board and the patch is wrong? Jun 16 12:12:36 CoreDump|home, No such file Jun 16 12:12:41 .... Jun 16 12:12:58 it's inside packages# Jun 16 12:13:28 RP: I know that for -sdk the zecke-xgcc-cpp is causing builds to fail, although I can't remember why Jun 16 12:14:06 CoreDump|home, PR = "r17" Jun 16 12:14:12 koen: Revert the commit then, your call. Jun 16 12:14:51 dcordes: that's your problem. We are at "r18" right now Jun 16 12:14:55 koen: Duplicating the whole SRC_URI is a mess though :/ Jun 16 12:15:09 I know, I couldn't find a better solution at the moment Jun 16 12:15:56 dcordes: IOW: Either your pull. or your mtn update failed Jun 16 12:16:07 koen: To be honest I thought it was a left over from failfast but I realised it didn't include the files which had failfast in anymore Jun 16 12:18:02 koen: One advantage poky's sdk has over OE's atm is working c++ compiling btw. You need the libstdc++-dev from the sdk though (and both the libstdc++ from the sdk and the target_arch ipk) Jun 16 12:18:52 koen: zecke-xgcc-cpp is using the cpp compiled by gcc, if it fails on amd64 hrw should debug it Jun 16 12:25:59 is there any particular reason distcc depends on gtk+ ? Jun 16 12:26:22 steliosk: for the distcc-mon package Jun 16 12:31:58 koen : Distcc should be able to build without gtk, I think distcc-mon should be build separately Jun 16 12:34:37 I see a volunteer ;-) Jun 16 12:34:54 * steliosk hides Jun 16 12:35:07 heh :) Jun 16 12:35:08 Ups, where did that volunteer go? Jun 16 12:46:17 where can i find prebuilt images for angstrom on fic neo1973 Jun 16 12:48:20 CoreDump|home, built Jun 16 12:48:33 dcordes: great Jun 16 12:49:32 empty_mind: angstrom-distribution.org -> Downloads -> fic-gta01 Jun 16 12:54:01 * * OE Bug 748 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by Bernhard.Guillon(AT)opensimpad.org Jun 16 12:54:03 * *  Suspend broken on Simpad Jun 16 12:54:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748 Jun 16 13:17:04 CoreDump|home, are the 3 recommended kernel modules important? Jun 16 13:17:26 of course Jun 16 13:17:42 w/o them, you won't be able to modprobe the driver Jun 16 13:18:08 k Jun 16 13:20:51 my machine can't ipkg update Jun 16 13:21:15 oh it's just damn slow. I hate that prism2 card Jun 16 13:29:51 dcordes: certainly better than wrting those 0 and 1 to the card by hand ;-) Jun 16 13:34:24 there is a lack of bandwidth Jun 16 13:35:05 angstrom-distribution.org is dog-slow again Jun 16 13:35:22 :} Jun 16 13:46:23 why does ipkg keep looking for the packages file on my card? Jun 16 13:47:29 hmm, how can I regenerate Packages and Packages.gz after doing some stuff with bitbake? Jun 16 13:47:40 it is outdated :) Jun 16 13:48:25 filip: bitbake -crebuild package_index Jun 16 13:48:33 *package-index Jun 16 13:49:42 CoreDump|home, kernel-module-videodev is not available for akita. Can I take one for a different machine? Jun 16 13:50:25 dcordes: either wait until someone updates the angstrom feeds, or use the one from your own build-env Jun 16 13:53:21 CoreDump|home, how would I bake kernel-module-videodev? Jun 16 13:54:15 if you managed to compile gspvca your OE already recompiled the updated kernel for you (including the modules) Jun 16 13:54:16 dcordes: enable CONFIG_VIDEODEV in your kernel defconfig and bitbake virtual/kernel Jun 16 13:55:17 pH5: the updated kernel already has these options set Jun 16 13:55:51 CoreDump|home, do I still need to bitbake virtual/kernel? Jun 16 13:56:04 if you managed to compile gspvca your OE already recompiled the updated kernel for you (including the modules) Jun 16 13:56:09 pH5: thanks :) Jun 16 14:03:50 CoreDump|home, ok modules installed, camera plugged in, module loaded automatically now how can I test? Jun 16 14:04:50 install camsource, and configure it Jun 16 14:08:11 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a9385b... 10/ (1 packages/opensync/libopensync_svn.bb): Jun 16 14:08:11 libopensync: set default pref to -1 for svn version which seems not to build. Jun 16 14:08:11 Fixes 2145 since version 0.22 builds just fine. Jun 16 14:08:18 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r66344253... 10/ (13 files in 8 dirs): fix a couple of LICENSE entries Jun 16 14:08:26 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * recc40e5d... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): uim: move debug files into proper package Jun 16 14:08:31 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r00d174a2... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): glibc-intermediate: Unset PACKAGES_DYNAMIC (from Poky) Jun 16 14:11:30 !oebug 2145 Jun 16 14:11:32 * * Bug 2145, Status: RESOLVED (FIXED), Created: 2007-04-27 12:50 Jun 16 14:11:33 * * : do_install fails for libopensync Jun 16 14:11:34 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2145 Jun 16 14:12:32 CoreDump|home, the camsource.conf.example looks promising on ease of use Jun 16 14:13:06 yup Jun 16 14:13:41 CoreDump|home, could I use your conf? Jun 16 14:14:17 you just said that camsource.conf.example looks easy enough Jun 16 14:14:25 that was irony because it is so big Jun 16 14:14:35 it is very well documented Jun 16 14:14:44 but I just got rid of the .example and it gave me OK stats only Jun 16 14:15:05 so far so good Jun 16 14:15:12 how can I find out that it is workign now? Jun 16 14:16:17 That question can be answered by a simple google query Jun 16 14:17:06 or, as an alternative, reading the configuration file, because is is _very_ well documented Jun 16 14:18:06 CoreDump|home, is there no gui to take shots? Jun 16 14:18:18 or something else x11ish Jun 16 14:19:32 a) I'm not a webcam expert b) I know mplayer can be abused to show webcam streams, but _not_ the one in OE c) if you'd bother to read the configuration file of camsource you would have been able to verify your webcam driver by now Jun 16 14:20:29 :( ok sir Jun 16 14:20:40 * dcordes reading Jun 16 14:25:19 morning Jun 16 14:29:01 * * OE Bug 2492 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2345 by Jun 16 14:29:03 * *  cups-1.2.10-r0 Jun 16 14:29:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2492 Jun 16 14:30:23 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r243cf387... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-base/openmoko-libs_svn.bb): openmoko-libs: add libxosd dependency Jun 16 14:33:35 CoreDump|home, camserv would be nice for testing purpose http://cserv.sourceforge.net/old/camserv-0.5.0.tar.gz Jun 16 14:33:52 ph5: thanks Jun 16 14:35:52 !oebug 2345 Jun 16 14:35:54 * * Bug 2345, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-20 08:55 Jun 16 14:35:55 * * bero(AT)arklinux.org: cups 1.2.10 fails to build for some host distros Jun 16 14:35:56 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2345 Jun 16 15:02:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9a35230d... 10/ (1 classes/e.bbclass): e.bbclass: unbreak packaging Jun 16 15:02:31 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r599d49ce... 10/ (1 classes/e.bbclass): e.bbclass: fix typo Jun 16 15:08:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * radaa9b64... 10/ (1 packages/e17/expedite_cvs.bb): e17: add expedite, an evas benchmark Jun 16 15:15:01 * * OE Bug 2499 has been created by oe(AT)hentges.net Jun 16 15:15:02 * * Mplayers "pxa" driver fails to work on Spitz Jun 16 15:15:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2499 Jun 16 15:15:51 !bug-add-address oe@hentges.net CoreDump Jun 16 15:15:52 how can I check out what dependencies my app has? Jun 16 15:15:53 Adding into my database Jun 16 15:16:04 -----> http://cserv.sourceforge.net/ <--- Jun 16 15:16:33 !help Jun 16 15:16:42 how can I get a list of bot commands? Jun 16 15:17:20 ?? help > dcordes Jun 16 15:19:07 dcordes: for the ipk do "dpkg --info $ipk", for the source read the README that comes with the source Jun 16 15:25:03 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r38fe196c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jun 16 15:25:03 oe/libxosd: add patch making libxosd using 'fixed' as default font -- Jun 16 15:25:03 this font is guaranteed to be always present on the Xserver Jun 16 15:25:03 (remember, this is core fonts, not freetype or xft) Jun 16 15:26:48 mickey|fic: no macosd yet? Jun 16 15:27:26 no. while it's cool, it brings in a lot of new dependencies. plus it uses some freaking buildsystem Jun 16 15:27:45 RP: do you have that patch for BGR support in libmatchbox handy? Jun 16 15:27:52 mickey|fic: T2? Jun 16 15:29:00 no, ExactBuild Jun 16 15:29:30 ah, close enough Jun 16 15:30:15 T2 says OE is bad because you need 'bitmake' Jun 16 15:30:44 hehe Jun 16 15:30:49 where do they say that? Jun 16 15:31:12 i'll meet the guys when I'm back in .de Jun 16 15:31:27 we might work together in the future Jun 16 15:31:28 Laibsch: I am really impressed with what you marked in my bug. I marked it blocking so when you have a chance to commit you could add in my stuff. If you all really want to ignore the working new reciepes and updates that I add then I will add the ignore option for you, I'll stop putting it on the bug tracker Jun 16 15:32:53 mickey|fic: http://www.t2-project.org/faq/ Jun 16 15:33:07 "Why do I need to be root to build T2?" kinda sums it all up Jun 16 15:33:28 koen because it's more fun Jun 16 15:34:01 hehe Jun 16 15:34:32 well, they would not work on the build system :D Jun 16 15:34:51 comparing the claims and patches they apply to tools I can say it falls in the category: "mediawhore" Jun 16 15:35:01 i'll give them a chance to show me T2 though Jun 16 15:35:09 maybe there's some stuff we need in there Jun 16 15:35:15 t2 is kind of nice ... nice menuconfiguration ... i think OE could use this for newbies :) Jun 16 15:35:17 they are missing quite a lot of patches that are needed to get stuff to work Jun 16 15:36:32 shit ... stupids neighbors ... Jun 16 15:36:53 * chouimat put some rammstein and crank the volume on max to annoy them Jun 16 15:37:12 in essence T2 == emdebian Jun 16 15:37:28 lots of publicity, but not actually usefull Jun 16 15:38:25 at least the avr32 portion I have been looking at the past few days Jun 16 15:38:56 koen the dreamcast part is good :) Jun 16 15:41:56 SonicvanaJr: want to see something funny? Jun 16 15:42:25 Yes Jun 16 15:42:33 SonicvanaJr: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2361 Jun 16 15:43:39 Nice Jun 16 15:44:09 I think I've found the problem with libpurple in pidgin. The install directory has some stuff in the bin directory. And in that conditions, debian.bbclass refuses to change the package name using the lib soname. Jun 16 15:44:30 Now, the question is: What is the best/preferred way to avoid this? Jun 16 15:44:38 Just avoid libpurple to install any binaries? Jun 16 15:45:02 SonicvanaJr: yeah, I keep adding working things, and people complain because it's not perfect. Now I have four reciepes that are perfect, and no one will commit because I am "annoying". AND I was told I obviously don't know how FOSS works. Jun 16 15:45:14 I've checked that in the previous 2.0.0 version, libpurple didn't install any binaries. Jun 16 15:45:32 Zero_Chaos, WTF ? Jun 16 15:45:47 SonicvanaJr: I know how it works, a couple people think they are cool, and complain all the time that they have no help. But no help that I provide is ever good enough, and when it is finally good enough, I'm ignored on principle. Jun 16 15:46:16 SonicvanaJr: I'm about " " <- that far from not adding things to bugtracker anymore Jun 16 15:46:23 koen: Its in poky svn, just not applied to anything Jun 16 15:47:11 SonicvanaJr: the asshat was even nice enough to make me my very own meta bug filled with things I can fix! Of course, since he wants to ignore everything I write in bug tracker and refuses to commit my work... WTF is the point? Jun 16 15:47:12 If I understood correctly, a package with something like: Jun 16 15:47:26 FILES_libpurple = "${libdir}/libpurple*.so.* /usr/bin/purple-* ... Jun 16 15:47:40 mdk3 is hi priority! Jun 16 15:47:41 Is never going to be renamed to match the lib soname, is that true? Jun 16 15:49:05 dcordes: no it isn't, but the fact that my work sits in bugtracker for 23 days because "no one feels like committing it" is more than slightly stupid Jun 16 15:49:21 It also seems a little funny referencing those absolute paths directly? Jun 16 15:49:47 that's sad Jun 16 15:50:01 mdk3??? wtf is that? Jun 16 15:50:28 dcordes: yeah, I'm using OE so I can contribute to the community, if nobody is willing to commit my work for some rediculous reason, I know easier ways for me to compile things. Jun 16 15:50:54 chouimat: it's an 802.11 protocol attack tool, but that's not the point. Jun 16 15:50:57 Zero_Chaos: I won't mind if you got lost! Jun 16 15:51:10 And I am not here to impress you Jun 16 15:51:27 But I was really impressed with your language and clue resistance Jun 16 15:51:30 asshat? Jun 16 15:51:34 Never heard of that Jun 16 15:51:38 Laibsch: so you are telling me, that despite the fact that I make a concrete contribution to this project that you would rather I get lost? Jun 16 15:51:42 It will sure get you points calling me that Jun 16 15:51:58 Why don't you complain to others? I am no the only one who can commit Jun 16 15:52:06 Zero_Chaos: yes Jun 16 15:52:14 Because you a) are contributing which is good Jun 16 15:52:23 But b) you suck up too much valuable time Jun 16 15:52:32 and c) I don't like being insulted Jun 16 15:53:06 Laibsch: c) nor do I, yet I have been insulted in here for a month and yet I did nothing but improve my work and watch it go to waste. Jun 16 15:53:26 AFAIK nobody insulted you Jun 16 15:53:26 Laibsch: you are nice enough to make a metabug for me to work on, and you tell me flat out you refuse to commit my work! Jun 16 15:53:28 So far Jun 16 15:53:50 The meta bug makes a LOT of sense Jun 16 15:53:55 nothing to be offended Jun 16 15:54:03 I think refusing to commit his work, and not supplying a good reason as to why counts as being insulted. Jun 16 15:54:11 I have no interest in your stuff and cannot judge its quality Jun 16 15:54:15 Thus I won't commit it Jun 16 15:54:20 But others might Jun 16 15:54:27 And then they find it all in one place Jun 16 15:54:31 Laibsch: I would be happy to work on wifi-drivers, wireless tools, etc, but if you tell me you want to ignore my bug tracker why the hell would I want to do more work that will sit in the tracker? Jun 16 15:54:47 Laibsch: you can judge the quality of my reciepes, I didn't write the program code. Jun 16 15:54:48 And what is your thank you for MY work? Quote: "asshat" Jun 16 15:54:57 and waste of bandwidth Jun 16 15:55:15 Zero_Chaos: I never told you to work on that meta-bug Jun 16 15:55:24 The meta-bug was mainly for others Jun 16 15:55:31 And only partly for you Jun 16 15:55:36 I guess you should know your work Jun 16 15:55:48 * chouimat feels like he's in #openwrt Jun 16 15:56:02 chouimat: no, openwrt is very different Jun 16 15:56:04 And you know it Jun 16 15:56:07 ;-) Jun 16 15:56:20 Laibsch: hehe Jun 16 15:56:36 SonicvanaJr: What is your point? Jun 16 15:56:39 Can you read? Jun 16 15:56:56 huhu Jun 16 15:57:11 You countered my point. Good job. I digress. Jun 16 15:57:24 Laibsch: we can all read just fine. now you are insulting someone who simply noticed how rude you are to me Jun 16 15:57:31 Laibsch: cool Jun 16 15:57:35 Zero_Chaos: bullshit Jun 16 15:58:01 Zero_Chaos: I got a little louder after you refuse to just be patient Jun 16 15:58:11 As you have been told lik a bazillion times Jun 16 15:58:31 When one of the core OE devs find an interest in your work then it will be committed Jun 16 15:58:43 That is how FOSS works and that is what you have still to learn Jun 16 15:58:53 Nothing but facts and no insults from me Jun 16 15:58:55 Laibsch: be patient for what? I have bugs that have been sitting in bug tracker for a year. Jun 16 15:58:58 It is all just in your head Jun 16 15:59:23 OTHERS HAVE BUGS WAITING FOR TWO YEARS!!! Jun 16 15:59:30 Laibsch: because you don't care about the programs I add you don't feel they deserve to be commited? That's how FOSS works? One of us is on crack, and it's not me Jun 16 15:59:30 can youhear me? Jun 16 15:59:35 Man you are thick Jun 16 15:59:51 Zero_Chaos: Please, get lost Jun 16 16:00:14 What makes YOU so special we should spend all this attention on you? Jun 16 16:00:20 <_diego_> Zero_Chaos: make your own distrution or live with it Jun 16 16:00:54 I am just trying to share my work with others but it is not appreciated. Fine. I'll stop sharing. Jun 16 16:00:59 I understand. Jun 16 16:01:11 As long as you also shut up, that is fine with me Jun 16 16:01:12 Really Jun 16 16:01:20 Oh boy Jun 16 16:01:25 * Laibsch needs to calm down Jun 16 16:01:34 * chouimat thinks someone what to be the new kergoth :) Jun 16 16:01:39 s/what/wants Jun 16 16:02:05 I guess it is time to calm down a little =) Jun 16 16:02:17 chouimat: actually I was updating a few of kergoth's reciepes last night, but since no one cares about nmap I guess I was wasting my time Jun 16 16:02:22 relax people Jun 16 16:02:31 I don't remember what FOSS stands for, but I'm damn sure it's not based on such a hostility. Jun 16 16:02:55 how about meta-toolchain .. any plans to get it fixed soon ? Jun 16 16:08:02 what is a good kernel module bb file example ? Jun 16 16:13:43 is there some kind of history for ipkg? Jun 16 16:13:48 * mwester has found something that is just as slow as monotone in processing downloaded data: applying a Microsoft Office service pack! Jun 16 16:13:51 so I can check what I installed Jun 16 16:14:57 * CoreDump|home is microsof-free Jun 16 16:15:05 dcordes: nope Jun 16 16:16:22 CoreDump|home: not according to Bill Gates and his latest threat of lawsuits! Jun 16 16:16:45 CoreDump|home: congratulations :-D next step is to be linux free, so you're clear of patent litigation :-P Jun 16 16:16:52 lol Jun 16 16:17:13 I'm feeling FreeBSD... or maybe NetBSD Jun 16 16:17:18 Linux Laptop, Linux WAP, Linux NAS, and now a Linux Phone =) Jun 16 16:17:39 neo working well enough for you? Jun 16 16:17:53 as a toy, yes Jun 16 16:17:53 summatusmentis: you forgot dragonflybsd, openbsd and opensolaris :) Jun 16 16:18:06 * mwester thinks OS/370 will be making a comeback ;-) Jun 16 16:18:10 =D Jun 16 16:18:18 chouimat: true... I've been thinking about trying those two though :-P Jun 16 16:18:39 there's also some project out there to write an OS in assembly... Jun 16 16:18:51 mwester I used it once on my Zaurus ... using hercules ... a portable Mainframe :) Jun 16 16:21:54 * mwester used to configure communications h/w & s/w to work with 370's and minicomputers -- they weren't very portable back then! Jun 16 16:22:33 I feel young when conversation turns to stuff like this :-P Jun 16 16:22:51 hehe Jun 16 16:23:10 * chouimat misses his Zx-81 Jun 16 16:23:10 first computer we ever had... I think it was a 386 packard bell Jun 16 16:23:28 and I was... 4 Jun 16 16:23:48 and my Color Computer 3 :) Jun 16 16:23:59 First computer I ever "had" was a mainframe with punchcards... And I was... 12, I think :) Jun 16 16:24:13 qemu on the neo might just match that 386 packard bell in performance ;-) Jun 16 16:24:32 mwester: I could play lemmings again!!! Jun 16 16:24:36 :-P Jun 16 16:24:54 * mwester did the punch-cards in college -- and is glad to know he's not the only "old guy" here... Jun 16 16:25:19 umm... well, my mom did punch cards in college... if that tells you anything :-P Jun 16 16:25:49 on a, iirc, PDP-10 Jun 16 16:27:02 of PDPs I only knew- PDP-11 and it had a punchtape. Jun 16 16:30:17 polyonymous: well, but I'm sure you know what PDP stands for :-P Jun 16 16:30:31 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Simh Boot up a PDP-11, with the original Unix System V7 OS --- on your NSLU2. :-) Jun 16 16:31:56 summatusmentis, I do, but this is an ancient acronym and my first real computer love. Jun 16 16:31:58 mwester cool :) Jun 16 16:32:41 mwester, yummy! Jun 16 16:32:59 polyonymous: first impressions are hard to forget :-P My first computer love was.... the original oregon trail on our packard bell Jun 16 16:33:32 summatusmentis, not first impression - that would be a russian clone of IBM. But my first love waas pdp-11 and I still love the instruction set. Jun 16 16:33:45 http://simh.trailing-edge.com/software.html Jun 16 16:33:52 I used to program using front-panel back then... Jun 16 16:33:55 polyonymous: fair enough Jun 16 16:34:39 do we have this simulator in OE? Jun 16 16:34:49 hrm... NSLU2 is only $80 on newegg Jun 16 16:35:29 * summatusmentis leaves so he doesn't get caught not working on what he was told to for the day :-P Jun 16 16:37:17 morning Jun 16 16:37:26 wb XorA Jun 16 16:37:34 XorA: Hello, XorA, Back from holidays? Jun 16 16:37:54 yeah back, just gprs at moment as im at in laws Jun 16 16:39:00 XorA: Welcome back Jun 16 16:39:17 sirfred: cheers Jun 16 16:44:12 anyway time to get off again Jun 16 17:12:27 Laibsch: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/Changelog-20070609-20070616.txt Jun 16 17:19:31 koen: your weekly summary? Jun 16 17:19:40 yeah Jun 16 17:19:46 if I remember to do it weekly Jun 16 17:21:24 hehe Jun 16 17:21:39 koen: n-bugs fixed vs n-bug-opened would be interesting Jun 16 17:21:40 looks nice Jun 16 17:22:00 CoreDump|home: I watch that to an extent Jun 16 17:22:08 It is about level at the moment Jun 16 17:22:10 CoreDump|home: the script is in contrib/mtn2cl :) Jun 16 17:22:14 no growth in open bugs Jun 16 17:22:42 koen: One thing I saw is that commits of the form Jun 16 17:22:45 $package: Jun 16 17:22:52 sometext here Jun 16 17:23:00 it takes the first line and drops the rest Jun 16 17:23:11 yes, generally that is OK Jun 16 17:23:21 Well, let's keep it Jun 16 17:23:33 This is a summary, after all Jun 16 17:23:34 might be a good idea to glue the second line if the first line has one ':' and it's on the end. Jun 16 17:23:48 I see a volunteer! Jun 16 17:23:52 ^[^:]+:$ Jun 16 17:24:03 Damn your eyesight! :) Jun 16 17:24:04 Oh, a quick volunteer! Jun 16 17:24:18 Here you see my code - feel free to incorporate :) Jun 16 17:24:49 the mtn magic select is faulty as well, it dumped the complete history of the .doc branch as well Jun 16 17:25:37 koen: which line is that Jun 16 17:25:45 I worked on some mtn magic today Jun 16 17:25:46 for i in `mtn log --brief --no-graph --no-merges --from l:"1 week ago" --to ${REV_NOW}| awk '{print $2 ":" $1}'` ; do \ Jun 16 17:25:54 You might have seen it on planet ;-) Jun 16 17:25:59 l:"1 week ago" <- Jun 16 17:26:24 just add org.openembedded.dev to it? Jun 16 17:26:42 Oh, that is part of .dev, right? Jun 16 17:26:47 But there still is a solution Jun 16 17:26:50 Just a sec Jun 16 17:28:21 koen: Try the option --exclude= Jun 16 17:28:33 It is a glob Jun 16 17:29:24 but might not be an option for "mtn log" Jun 16 17:33:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb9511657... 10/ (1 contrib/mtn2cl/mtn2cl.sh): contrib/mtn2cl: use a temp dir so we catch all authors and don't litter $PWD Jun 16 17:34:01 * * OE Bug 2500 has been created by ospite(AT)studenti.unina.it Jun 16 17:34:03 * * Can't build xserver-kdrive_git.bb Jun 16 17:34:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2500 Jun 16 17:37:50 koen: Couldn't you grep org.openembedded.documentation away? Jun 16 17:38:13 before feeding it to awk? Jun 16 17:38:26 haven't tried it yet Jun 16 17:39:01 I think it should work reasonably robust Jun 16 17:39:08 meh, I can't figure out a bugzilla search to only display newly created bugs from the last 7 days Jun 16 17:40:02 ahh nm Jun 16 17:44:08 CoreDump|home: Got it? Jun 16 17:44:14 I can provide you one Jun 16 17:44:18 yeah Jun 16 17:48:13 v8jlene: perl is not dash-safe? Jun 16 17:51:29 why does virtually all software hosted on gnu.org have a broken, cross-compile unfriendly and pathetic buildsystem? Jun 16 17:51:43 you'd think the gnu people would get autotools and pkgconfig right Jun 16 17:57:00 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r3b51ced2... 10/ (1 classes/e.bbclass classes/efl.bbclass): efl, e: update for better packaging Jun 16 17:59:07 because they only want gnu software run on Hurd Jun 16 18:05:58 koen pkgconfig is a good solution to the wrong problem ... and I won't talk about autocrap :) Jun 16 18:08:18 * koen gnashes teeth Jun 16 18:11:03 * * OE Bug 1735 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 16 18:11:05 * *  package wrt-imagetools-native-1.0 missing sources ( openwrt has changed from cvs to svn) Jun 16 18:11:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1735 Jun 16 18:15:58 can always use qmake Jun 16 18:18:47 aha Jun 16 18:19:03 the gnu dudes say "you can't use pkgconfig when crosscompiling" Jun 16 18:20:24 keymap in spitz is borked Jun 16 18:21:08 ibot: botmail for psokolovsky: Have you had a chance to extend bug 72 to SVN? Would that enable SSL for svn? Jun 16 18:21:42 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * rb4ff8a18... 10/ (1 contrib/mtn2cl/mtn2cl.sh): mtn2cl: Show total bugs created vs. total bugs fixed over 7 days Jun 16 18:23:02 CoreDump: yay! Jun 16 18:40:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb6e86a37... 10/ (1 contrib/mtn2cl/mtn2cl.sh): contrib/mtn2cl: print a list of new bugs as well Jun 16 18:52:38 Does FILESPATH support multiple paths ? Jun 16 18:52:48 yes, it should be a glob Jun 16 18:53:23 koen: Thanks Jun 16 19:06:46 NOTE: Running task 666 of 3828 (ID: 2271, /home/stelios/proj/oplinux-0.2/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libtool/libtool_1.5.10.bb, do_unpack) Jun 16 19:07:02 even bitbake knows libtool is evil Jun 16 19:08:16 :D Jun 16 19:20:32 hi koen !! Jun 16 19:21:34 got a design question for anybody that cares to chime in. i have a client who is doing an embedded device, and they face two options for root. Jun 16 19:22:34 (a) is using initramfs, therefor the "root" winds up in the buffer cache, but is pretty inflexible - new flash image to add something, etc. Jun 16 19:23:03 (b) is using a jffs2 for root, but they are worried about "wearing out" the flash. how legit a concern is this? Jun 16 19:25:23 initramfs for embedded systems is a waste of resources IMHO Jun 16 19:26:26 jffs2+some linking of files from etc to point to a rambased mount is a better solution Jun 16 19:26:44 provided there is nothing that after a powerdown can be lost Jun 16 19:27:03 hey HopsNBarley Jun 16 19:27:55 i havent heard of anyone wearing out their flash chips Jun 16 19:28:09 right. so that way the writes are very minimal. combined with some sort "save config" to flash, that would be nice. Jun 16 19:28:33 iguess i twould depend on how long they think theior device is going to be viable Jun 16 19:29:15 dunno. it's a media receiver, net to tv and stereo, etc. Jun 16 19:29:50 then it probably wont matter much. if it was a medical life support device then it might matter Jun 16 19:29:53 HopsNBarley : This is how a lot of devices of that kind do it Jun 16 19:30:08 thanks for the reality check. Jun 16 19:30:16 not the life support ones.... these run windows :) Jun 16 19:30:29 (-; Jun 16 19:30:35 remind me not to go to that hospital Jun 16 19:32:04 spitz keymaps does not have '/' ;( Jun 16 19:33:26 ljp : It's Saturday evening humor :) Jun 16 19:35:40 * koen looks at gnash_0.8.0-r0_armv4t.ipk Jun 16 19:36:04 does it work? Jun 16 19:36:11 no idea Jun 16 19:36:19 I need to fix packaging first Jun 16 19:36:39 and I disabled sounds, othwrwise it wouldn't link due to unresolved _gnash_ symbols Jun 16 19:51:44 ~seen thesing Jun 16 19:51:51 thesing was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 22h 45m 14s ago, saying: 'psokolovsky_: Ok. good to know. I will test when I have Windows booted.'. Jun 16 19:52:01 * * OE Bug 2324 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by Jun 16 19:52:03 * *  gtk-webcore/osb-jscore_svn.bb build error Jun 16 19:52:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2324 Jun 16 19:53:01 * * OE Bug 1480 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 16 19:53:03 * *  Help to make a gnash recipe Jun 16 19:53:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1480 Jun 16 19:53:15 just in time for 7 ages of rock Jun 16 19:53:24 ~hail the BBC Jun 16 19:53:26 * ibot bows down to the BBC and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 16 20:19:54 ~seen florian Jun 16 20:19:57 florian was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 22h 50m 7s ago, saying: 'Laibsch: what for?'. Jun 16 20:20:22 Koen: Can you send me the presentations you gave so far so I can add them to the wiki ? Jun 16 20:59:01 * * OE Bug 2502 has been created by Bernhard.Guillon(AT)opensimpad.org Jun 16 20:59:03 * * Angstrom: please make no cursor as default in gpe Jun 16 20:59:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2502 Jun 16 21:00:00 * * OE Bug 2480 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 16 21:00:02 * *  gaim-protocol-msn lacking SSL Jun 16 21:00:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2480 Jun 16 21:00:23 !bug-add-address Bernhard.Guillon@opensimpad.org mr_nice Jun 16 21:00:24 Adding into my database Jun 16 21:00:29 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r0f42a8d6... 10/ (1 packages/gaim/pidgin.inc packages/gaim/pidgin_2.0.1.bb): pidgin: make ssl-* plugins depend on ssl plugin and close bug #2480. Jun 16 21:02:33 Obscuring addresses using (AT) in cdbot's reports makes no sense if you !bug-* the real address two lines below :)) Jun 16 21:03:01 * * OE Bug 1914 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 16 21:03:03 * *  qt4-x11-free upgrade Jun 16 21:03:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1914 Jun 16 21:03:25 heh true Jun 16 21:03:59 !curse spammers Jun 16 21:04:54 and even more web spammers. I still had no time to add a turing test to some of my pages... :) Jun 16 21:05:04 polyonymous: can you explain to me what qt-x11-free is? Jun 16 21:05:09 X server for opie? Jun 16 21:05:18 speaking of which Jun 16 21:05:19 summatusmentis, no, qt4 library for x11. Jun 16 21:05:29 it fails to compile for me Jun 16 21:05:30 polyonymous: ok, so opie apps on gpe is the final outcome? Jun 16 21:05:34 the non-qt4 one Jun 16 21:05:50 More like running opie stuff (with some huge modifications) on x11 Jun 16 21:05:59 Laibsch, what fails to compile? Jun 16 21:06:05 non-qt4 qt4? :) Jun 16 21:06:07 or pidgin? Jun 16 21:06:28 polyonymous: It is strange that it fails because there is a line Jun 16 21:06:31 FILES_qt-x11-plugins-debug += "${prefix}/plugins/*/.debug ${D}/qt-x11-plugins-debug" Jun 16 21:06:45 ah, non-4? Jun 16 21:06:46 and it fails because Jun 16 21:06:47 ERROR: QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory: qt-x11-plugins-debug path /work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux/qt-x11-free-3.3.7-r1/install/qt-x11-plugins-debug/usr/plugins/imageformats/.debug/libqjpeg.so Jun 16 21:06:55 polyonymous: yes, as I said Jun 16 21:06:58 Laibsch, isn' Jun 16 21:07:05 t it supposed to be -dbg? Jun 16 21:07:07 qt-x11-free standard Jun 16 21:07:36 you mean FILES_qt-x11-dbg += "${prefix}/plugins/*/.debug ${D}/qt-x11-plugins-debug" Jun 16 21:07:38 ? Jun 16 21:07:39 yes Jun 16 21:07:45 Ah, that could be a reason Jun 16 21:07:56 I'll test it out Jun 16 21:08:09 because, iirc, insane checks for -dbg and that certainly wouldn't match. Jun 16 21:08:15 * Laibsch praises polyonymous' good eye-sight Jun 16 21:08:55 It's not a good eye-sight, it's just I haven't been staring at this line for ages like you did before ;) You can never see anything wrong at line you've been examining for a long time :) Jun 16 21:09:07 ~lart my grammar Jun 16 21:09:08 * ibot cats /dev/urandom into my grammar's ear Jun 16 21:09:32 Hey, my grammar is pretty urandom by itself today. Jun 16 21:09:40 my grandma's ear? Jun 16 21:09:42 ;-) Jun 16 21:09:53 Does ibot have a grandma? :) Jun 16 21:10:25 ~botmail for gerwinin http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/talks/ Jun 16 21:11:41 And while we're at it, it would be great if we could avoid depending on qt3 as much as possible. Two cuties on one handheld is a bit too much :) Although I know it's not always an option, so that's just a general consideration. Jun 16 21:16:13 polyonymous: Can you write up something on how to move? Jun 16 21:16:30 Sometimes it might be as easy as just switching a dependency, I guess Jun 16 21:17:04 I guess not, maybe bumping version and switching dependency :) Jun 16 21:17:16 polyonymous: Coming back to FILES_qt-x11-dbg += "${prefix}/plugins/*/.debug ${D}/qt-x11-plugins-debug" Jun 16 21:17:20 I think that is not quite right Jun 16 21:17:50 Actually, there's a qt3to4 script, which of course doesn't accomplish it. Jun 16 21:17:52 What is that $prefix thing doing there? Jun 16 21:17:56 Does not look OE-ish Jun 16 21:18:26 Well, that depends on what's in your image. Actually, prefix is as oeish as libdir Jun 16 21:18:44 OK, and it seems to work Jun 16 21:18:50 Which is all I care for right now Jun 16 21:18:58 Let somebody else prettify it. Jun 16 21:19:00 :-D Jun 16 21:19:24 heh, I'd say that ${D} isn't oeish in this context, but looks like this is how it gets installed. Jun 16 21:39:10 Good night Jun 16 21:55:16 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re6d709e2... 10/ (1 packages/wrt/wrt-imagetools-native.bb): wrt-imagetools: Fix do_fetch by taking svn snapshot until OE can handle SVN by itself. Fixes 1735. Jun 16 21:55:25 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rbd351300... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): icewm: update to version 1.2.30 Jun 16 21:55:30 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re64bb182... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt-x11-free-common.inc): qt-x11-free: Put those debug files into their proper place Jun 16 21:59:37 polyonymous: Do you have an idea how to handle a package that installs via "python ~/ankiqt/ankiqt.py"? Jun 16 21:59:51 Just do_install { python ~/ankiqt/ankiqt.py }? Jun 16 22:00:07 How do I make sure that does not install to all kinds of weird place? Jun 16 22:00:08 ~/ ?? Jun 16 22:00:10 ~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix Jun 16 22:00:30 why would it run something from homedir? Jun 16 22:00:36 Somebody should smack that bot! Jun 16 22:00:47 And I think the way to make sure it installs to the proper places is to read the .py... Jun 16 22:01:01 BTW, nobody ever considered adding sandbox to OE? Jun 16 22:02:11 "ejc> I should go back to using windows, at least there when something doesn't work, I don't have the illusion that I can fix it" Jun 16 22:02:13 hehe Jun 16 22:02:26 :)))) Jun 16 22:04:11 polyonymous: http://repose.cx/anki/download/anki-0.2.8.tgz Jun 16 22:04:18 You understand python? Jun 16 22:04:28 I cannot make heads or tails of that install script Jun 16 22:04:36 I didn't before OE :) Jun 16 22:04:40 although I believe it will install to $PWD Jun 16 22:04:49 Which I hope will be fine Jun 16 22:05:00 as bitbake probably changes to that dir first Jun 16 22:05:10 I'll read it now. Jun 16 22:05:12 that = $D Jun 16 22:05:15 Thanks Jun 16 22:08:05 uhm... the heads and tails of the script are in config.py as I understand and it has GUI :) Jun 16 22:12:00 config.py calls a GUI? Jun 16 22:12:08 Now that is smart! Jun 16 22:12:45 haven't you notice QApplication or something like that in ankiqt.py ? Jun 16 22:13:10 I read quickly through it Jun 16 22:13:16 Not much I understood Jun 16 22:13:52 So I doubt this script as is usable for installing stuff. Jun 16 22:19:01 * * OE Bug 2494 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 16 22:19:03 * *  intltool build fails due to PV naming difference Jun 16 22:19:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2494 Jun 16 22:20:09 polyonymous: OK, thanks for taking a look Jun 16 22:20:24 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r48fb9cd6... 10/ (1 packages/intltool/intltool.inc): intltool: cut the versioning in SRC_URI and close #2494 Jun 16 22:20:30 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * ref6e4e72... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): intltool: and while we're at it, here goes 0.35.5 with defpref of -1 Jun 16 22:20:36 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * re73fefb0... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): conf/checksums.ini: checksums for intltool-0.35.5 Jun 16 22:21:15 Laibsch, sorry about that, I think the script should be emulated in shell, but before doing that you should read and understand it... Jun 16 22:21:34 yes Jun 16 22:28:14 Shouldn't FILES-${PN}-dbg += "${libdir}/*/*/immodules/.debug" match /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/.debug/im-uim.so ? Jun 16 22:28:47 Laibsch, but in fact this config.py only builds config.db and doesn't do any further install, as far as I can tell by brief looking through it. Jun 16 22:29:16 I don't know how shell globs are handled there, but you can also try adding / to the tail, as I don't remember how it is handled either :) Jun 16 22:29:43 I have seen no / at end handled fine Jun 16 22:29:59 In fact all the bb files I see are without the slash Jun 16 22:30:14 then don't add it : Jun 16 22:30:16 :) Jun 16 22:30:29 and I think FILES_ should do better, anyway Jun 16 22:30:37 (that is - underscore instead of dash) Jun 16 22:31:12 that is probably it Jun 16 22:31:18 :) Jun 16 22:31:27 there is your eyesight again Jun 16 22:32:01 heh ;-) Jun 16 22:46:02 Laibsch, did konq finally build for you? Jun 16 22:46:23 Ah, thanks for reminding me Jun 16 22:46:29 I'll compile it right now Jun 16 22:46:47 shouldn't take long if you have all deps :) Jun 16 22:47:09 let's see Jun 16 22:47:45 I really think that 571 can be closed now, because it's way too outdated, but we have your report of inability to build konq there. Jun 16 22:48:11 which I guess was valid when I posted it Jun 16 22:48:20 But I think you supplied a fix in the meantime Jun 16 22:48:35 It wasn't you who posted it. Jun 16 22:48:44 I mean the bug. Jun 16 22:49:13 and yes, your report might have been valid, but I did supposedly fix it. Jun 16 22:50:42 failure still the same Jun 16 22:50:47 let me update mtn Jun 16 22:50:49 and retry Jun 16 22:51:37 it's been a while since I introduced the fix. Jun 16 22:51:45 But have you -c rebuild? I didn't bump PR Jun 16 22:51:58 Yes, I did a -c rebuild Jun 16 22:52:11 Still can't find a kde-config? Jun 16 22:52:17 yes Jun 16 22:52:21 Well, then it's not fixed :( Jun 16 22:53:04 you did not have this issue? Jun 16 22:53:11 Maybe a collie thing again? Jun 16 22:53:13 no. Do you have kde-config on your system? Jun 16 22:53:19 like `which kde-config` ? Jun 16 22:53:35 no, nothing here Jun 16 22:53:47 I do, though I don't use kde. Maybe that's why. Jun 16 22:53:57 Could be Jun 16 22:54:10 I'll try to exclude it from path and reproduce the problem... Jun 16 22:54:21 Nice, thanks Jun 16 22:56:02 you do have Applying patch 'dont-use-kde-config.patch' right? Jun 16 22:57:40 What do you mean? Jun 16 22:57:47 As an output on the console? Jun 16 22:58:35 yeah, but nevermind... Jun 16 23:01:14 http://rafb.net/p/QoTvXG23.html is what I got off the console Jun 16 23:02:16 the message in question was before that, but when I said "nevermind", I meant it :) I think I got it. Jun 16 23:03:13 I had already gone to the trouble of pasting Jun 16 23:03:22 So why not share the joy ;-) Jun 16 23:03:30 indeed :) Jun 16 23:06:25 Laibsch, pull. Jun 16 23:07:32 * Laibsch pulls hard Jun 16 23:07:35 * Laibsch pulls harder Jun 16 23:07:39 hm? Jun 16 23:07:42 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r8a9c646c... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): konqueror-embedded 20070212: adjust dont-use-kde-config.patch to not use kde-config ;-) Jun 16 23:07:47 ah! Jun 16 23:07:49 :-) Jun 16 23:07:52 :) Jun 16 23:08:00 It's nice when bots answer for you. Jun 16 23:10:01 * * OE Bug 2503 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 16 23:10:02 * * angstrom collie: no mmc modules autoloading Jun 16 23:10:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2503 Jun 16 23:10:30 polyonymous: I like that commit message Jun 16 23:11:00 Well, it's about as ridiculous as the changes I had to make :) Jun 16 23:11:14 great fit! Jun 16 23:11:23 perfect :) Jun 16 23:11:38 * Laibsch rebuilds Jun 16 23:20:03 it is still going which I guess is a good thing Jun 16 23:20:11 it was failing fast before Jun 16 23:20:19 it is now at do_compile Jun 16 23:21:05 Then at least this failure is fixed :) Jun 16 23:21:12 cool Jun 16 23:21:19 let's wait for the next ;-) Jun 16 23:21:57 heh Jun 16 23:24:12 success! Jun 16 23:24:16 I'll close 571 Jun 16 23:24:20 !oebug 571 Jun 16 23:24:22 * * Bug 571, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-01-03 07:43 Jun 16 23:24:23 * * rpjday(AT)mindspring.com: build of konqueror-embedded fails due to bad directory name Jun 16 23:24:24 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571 Jun 16 23:24:30 Great. Jun 16 23:24:43 But you won't :) Jun 16 23:25:00 * * OE Bug 571 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 16 23:25:02 * *  build of konqueror-embedded fails due to bad directory name Jun 16 23:25:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571 Jun 16 23:25:28 yes, I did Jun 16 23:25:34 Because I was halfway through closing it :) Jun 16 23:25:35 I closed it a second time ;-) Jun 16 23:25:38 :))))))) Jun 16 23:25:49 poor bug Jun 16 23:25:58 now what is that? Jun 16 23:26:00 Hurray! Jun 16 23:26:12 That is no way to close a bug properly ;-) Jun 16 23:26:14 And don't tell me it's not descriptive? Jun 16 23:26:20 VERY! Jun 16 23:26:24 that's it :) Jun 16 23:26:24 * Laibsch chuckles Jun 16 23:27:00 * * OE Bug 2504 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 16 23:27:03 * * angstrom collie: altboot misses altboot-2.6.cfg file Jun 16 23:27:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2504 Jun 16 23:41:00 * * OE Bug 2505 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 16 23:41:02 * * netbase has files that are already provided Jun 16 23:41:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 Jun 16 23:53:00 * * OE Bug 2506 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 16 23:53:02 * * CTRL-D stucks a shell Jun 16 23:53:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2506 Jun 17 00:04:56 night, everybody Jun 17 00:05:10 especially those who are in the daylight timezone :) Jun 17 00:07:31 polyonymous: night Jun 17 00:42:27 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r192cec79... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): classpath: unb0rk classpath-minimal-native. Partly fixes 2296. Jun 17 00:42:32 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2a4827e0... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): jamvm: upgrade to version 1.4.5. Partly closes 2296. Jun 17 01:00:01 * * OE Bug 867 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by Jun 17 01:00:03 * *  build minimal pmount/pumount from updatd pmount 0.9.9 Jun 17 01:00:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=867 Jun 17 01:04:01 * * OE Bug 1081 has been RESOLVED (LATER) by Jun 17 01:04:03 * *  sdl-image-1.0 build failed [angstrom-2006.9; tosa] Jun 17 01:04:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1081 Jun 17 01:07:01 * * OE Bug 1107 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 17 01:07:03 * *  gcc-cross-kernel fails to compile Jun 17 01:07:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1107 Jun 17 01:28:00 * * OE Bug 1153 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by Jun 17 01:28:03 * *  Jornada7xx - toolchain failed - " cannot compute suffix of object files" Jun 17 01:28:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1153 Jun 17 02:01:25 hi, all! Jun 17 02:01:44 is IMAGE_LINGUAS supposed to work with angstrom? Jun 17 02:49:00 * * OE Bug 2507 has been created by papercrane(AT)reversefold.com Jun 17 02:49:03 * * building for angstrom-2007.1 tries to build glibc 2.3.2 Jun 17 02:49:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2507 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 17 02:59:56 2007