**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 22 02:59:57 2007 Jun 22 04:06:01 * * OE Bug 2546 has been created by lvcargnini(AT)gmail.com Jun 22 04:06:03 * * perl-native does not build on newer distros Jun 22 04:06:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2546 Jun 22 04:29:53 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r72828db5... 10/ (75 files in 4 dirs): Jun 22 04:29:53 uboot-gta01: Jun 22 04:29:53 * remove outdated patches Jun 22 04:29:53 * remove tools build Jun 22 04:29:53 * add (hackish) fix for eabi situation Jun 22 04:29:58 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rab84cd18... 10/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Jun 22 04:29:58 linux-gta01: Jun 22 04:29:58 * remove outdated cruft Jun 22 04:29:59 * add 2.6.21.3 kernel Jun 22 04:30:05 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r090ae6ce... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-gta01.inc): linux-gta01: update .inc Jun 22 04:30:13 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r43f0162e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-gta01: add missing patch, make it build Jun 22 04:30:27 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8af80fbb... 10/ (99 files in 15 dirs): Jun 22 04:30:27 merge of '43f0162e257c27b3b68e689fc1e52fc7d296db3d' Jun 22 04:30:27 and 'b1be59f70fc52177a67b15d29fc93897c548b5a8' Jun 22 06:45:50 mickey|fic: http://blog.gustavobarbieri.com.br/2007/06/21/evas-on-n800-blazing-fast/ Jun 22 06:54:28 morning Jun 22 06:55:13 80GB hdd is so small... Jun 22 06:55:20 hey hrw Jun 22 07:01:02 cbrake_away: nice solution for cables Jun 22 07:01:52 + .ARM.extab : { *(.ARM.extab* .gnu.linkonce.armextab.*) } Jun 22 07:01:52 + __exidx_start = .; Jun 22 07:01:52 + .ARM.exidx : { *(.ARM.exidx* .gnu.linkonce.armexidx.*) } Jun 22 07:01:52 + __exidx_end = .; Jun 22 07:01:59 now I remember :) Jun 22 07:02:03 ~lart linkerscripts Jun 22 07:02:03 * ibot wallops linkerscripts with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long Jun 22 07:12:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r55057e52... 10/ (62 files in 3 dirs): u-boot-mkimage-gta01-native: re-add till uboot-utils actually works Jun 22 07:16:01 ?? Jun 22 07:17:09 you're torpeding my attempts to clean up Jun 22 07:17:14 what's that for? Jun 22 07:17:20 read your mail Jun 22 07:17:39 linux_2.6.18.bb, linux_2.6.21.bb linux_2.6.21+2.6.22rc1.bb depend on it Jun 22 07:17:58 why would non-gta stuff depend on u-boot-mkimage-gta01-native ? Jun 22 07:18:17 because it's the only reliable way to get a mkimage in staging Jun 22 07:18:21 as I said in my mail Jun 22 07:18:43 ah Jun 22 07:18:51 very ugly Jun 22 07:18:53 but i see Jun 22 07:18:56 yes Jun 22 07:19:13 note that this is a completely static snapshot with all needed patches in OE Jun 22 07:19:39 so no daily harald-and-werner-typo breakage ;) Jun 22 07:21:15 mickey|fic: btw, why does linux-openmoko use a different entry point in uboot than all other arm kernels? Jun 22 07:21:22 koen: maybe we need to rename it to u-boot-mkimage-native? Jun 22 07:21:49 hrw: fine by me Jun 22 07:22:07 then go ahead Jun 22 07:22:30 koen: don't ask me Jun 22 07:22:34 * koen looks at http://www.review-board.org/ Jun 22 07:22:39 haralds voodoo Jun 22 07:23:16 this eabi situation is sick. took me 6 hours to fix it :/ Jun 22 07:23:23 mainline uses a slightly different entry point, so a good reason is needed if you want to merge upstream Jun 22 07:24:03 the uboot eabi situation is sick because someone broke the arm920t code and every new arm920t based board blindly copied it Jun 22 07:25:09 i'm afraid that won't change soon either. no one really into uboot seems to want to fix it Jun 22 07:25:42 because everyone is using debian probably Jun 22 07:25:52 what are they doing? Jun 22 07:26:06 * koen is looking forward to watching them squirm after debian armel goes official Jun 22 07:29:01 anyone have Crofton's mail address handy? Jun 22 07:29:47 philip@balister.org Jun 22 07:30:03 thanks Jun 22 07:31:22 * mickey|fic adds another task to that we-hire-an-OE-maintainer Jun 22 07:31:22 what you guys think about developername@people.openembedded.org? Jun 22 07:31:48 mickey|fic: Crofton for it? good choice Jun 22 07:32:04 hrw: heh. no. "getting patches upstream" Jun 22 07:32:19 ah Jun 22 07:32:25 I'm afraid Crofton has other plans Jun 22 07:33:15 hrw: dunno, might be confusing w/ some of the actually working developername@openembedded.org. If you think we can make people understand that the subdomain is always to be added, lets go for it. I Jun 22 07:40:05 mickey|fic: the problem is that we do not have developername@openemebedded.org aliases for most of devs Jun 22 07:41:45 i know. don't you think it might make more sense to add the missing ones instead of introducing another subdomain? Jun 22 07:43:00 * * OE Bug 2547 has been created by shane.oe(AT)hathawaymix.org Jun 22 07:43:02 * * Collie froze when setting clock Jun 22 07:43:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2547 Jun 22 07:43:47 good morning Jun 22 07:45:06 it have sense to add missing ones Jun 22 07:46:13 good. then let's make a call for aliases Jun 22 07:46:44 * florian just entered the office... and a colleague was still there Jun 22 07:49:35 ERROR: This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes. Rerun configure task after fixing this. Path was '/home/hrw/devel/OH/poky/build/tmp/work/armv5te-poky-linux-gnueabi/ Jun 22 07:49:40 ~lart insane.bbclass Jun 22 07:49:40 * ibot beats the living hamstercrap out of insane.bbclass Jun 22 07:50:45 hrw: lart that configure script instead Jun 22 07:51:00 * koen adds the second qt4 apps to OE Jun 22 07:54:20 what buildsystem is kde using today? Jun 22 07:54:24 still cmake? Jun 22 07:56:09 ya Jun 22 07:58:51 /tmp/ccMssZS7.s:1432: Error: bad instruction `lwarx r1,0,r3' Jun 22 08:02:14 hm. I have to grab latest insane changes Jun 22 08:02:51 nope. have latest Jun 22 08:03:05 task do_qa_configure: completed Jun 22 08:04:13 I see why it is wrong Jun 22 08:04:55 if os.system("grep 'CROSS COMPILE Badness:' %s > /dev/null" % (os.path.join(root,"config.log"))) == 0: Jun 22 08:04:58 bb.fatal("This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes. Rerun configure task after fixing this. Path was '%s'" % root) Jun 22 08:05:47 first we do grep for badness. then we tell which workdir has badness instead of where it looked Jun 22 08:41:21 * koen wonders why lyx gives powerpc assembler to the arm compiler Jun 22 08:43:40 if !X86 probably Jun 22 08:44:58 I suspect some off the stuff from my powerpc build got through Jun 22 08:46:31 XorA: ever tried to compile http://www.gp2x.de/cgi-bin/cfiles.cgi?0,1,2,0,46,2115 in OE? Jun 22 08:55:06 * koen recompiles qt4 Jun 22 08:57:52 koen: no Jun 22 09:01:50 hmmm, I'm a moron Jun 22 09:30:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r66786eb4... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): remove accidentally commmitted asterisk14 files Jun 22 09:45:29 XorA: my hunch was right, recompiling qt4 helped Jun 22 09:57:42 hi Jun 22 10:00:36 hi zecke Jun 22 10:01:02 6.0M armv5te/lyx_1.4.4+1.5.0rc1-r0_armv5te.ipk :) Jun 22 10:01:09 another qt4x11 app Jun 22 10:02:10 ~lart everyone who use INCLUDES='-I$(top_srcdir) -I$(top_builddir) -I$(top_srcdir)/src -I$(top_builddir)/src -I$(top_srcdir)/src/common -I$(top_builddir)/src/common -I$(top_srcdir)/src/xitk/xine-toolkit -I$(top_builddir)/src/xitk/xine-toolkit -I$(prefix)/include $(INTLDIR)' Jun 22 10:02:10 * ibot tries to shut everyone who use INCLUDES='-I$(top_srcdir) -I$(top_builddir) -I$(top_srcdir)/src -I$(top_builddir)/src -I$(top_srcdir)/src/common -I$(top_builddir)/src/common -I$(top_srcdir)/src/xitk/xine-toolkit -I$(top_builddir)/src/xitk/xine-toolkit -I$(prefix)/include $(INTLDIR)' up Jun 22 10:02:24 -I$(prefix)/include assholes Jun 22 10:03:11 don't use xine :) Jun 22 10:03:27 koen: yay Jun 22 10:03:29 (lyx) Jun 22 10:04:56 mickey|fic: I want more qt4x11 software in OE :) Jun 22 10:06:11 mickey|fic: btw, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue is coming along nicely thanks to GSoC Jun 22 10:06:51 cool Jun 22 10:07:51 ibot: test Jun 22 10:07:52 Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! Jun 22 10:38:28 mickey|fic, ping Jun 22 10:40:15 Crofton: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/uboot/files/uboot-eabi-fix-HACK.patch Jun 22 10:40:21 koen, could you let me see your angstrom-uclibc conf files? i am compiling it and i've exactly the same problem with uclibc, wrong uClibc.machine Jun 22 10:40:31 they are in OE Jun 22 10:41:07 local.conf and auto.conf too? Jun 22 10:41:21 no, why is that needed? Jun 22 10:41:36 just set ANGSTROM_MODE="uclibc" and everything works Jun 22 10:42:34 ok, so that is in metadata now, that is ugly ... Jun 22 10:42:37 not for me, i've setted machine to nslu2be, and angstrom-glibc compiled fine, but uclibc fails at the same place.... maybe nslu2be config file... Jun 22 10:42:38 hmm Jun 22 10:43:11 mickey|fic, thanks for figuring that out Jun 22 10:43:20 wich arch are you compiling for koen? Jun 22 10:46:30 Crofton: :) Jun 22 10:52:28 I take it the issue of u-boot-tools came up again? Jun 22 10:53:32 if I have time today I'll poke at that a little, going on vacation for ten day Jun 22 10:53:43 so I do not want to start anything I will forget :) Jun 22 10:55:07 saladino: i586, i686, armv4t, armv5te, armv5teb, ppc603e, avr32 Jun 22 10:56:01 * * OE Bug 2548 has been created by utx(AT)penguin.cz Jun 22 10:56:03 * * Fix qemu to build on OpenSUSE 10.2 Jun 22 10:56:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2548 Jun 22 10:56:52 koen can i try with h2200 to compare? i mean it is suposed to compile correctly with h2200? Jun 22 10:56:54 koen: efika is 603e? Jun 22 10:57:06 hrw: yes Jun 22 10:57:53 koen: howmany HMz? Jun 22 10:58:02 400 Jun 22 10:59:23 * hrw remember Amiga1200 turbocards with ppc603e cards Jun 22 10:59:42 200/233/266 iirc - friend had 266 running at 300 iirc Jun 22 11:01:38 saladino: you problem is that uclibc needs a nslu2be config, I only build for ixp4xx (avila) as I don't have an nslu2 anymore Jun 22 11:02:53 saladino: some time ago I build few small uclibc images for hx4700 Jun 22 11:03:31 psokolovsky__: I'm running a uclibc image on the hx :) Jun 22 11:03:53 koen: full X? Jun 22 11:04:00 no Jun 22 11:04:15 ah ;-) Jun 22 11:04:39 I built some initrd-like stuff (busybox-static, etc) Jun 22 11:04:45 koen, i understand that, but as nslu2be is a more specific conf of a ixp4xxbe, is there a way to do the trick or the correct way is to do a nslu2be directory with the same uClibc.machine as ixp4xxbe ? Jun 22 11:06:27 the correct way is to add a config for nslu2be Jun 22 11:06:57 ok, i report a bug with the patch for that? Jun 22 11:10:23 psokolovsky__: do you know if the sdg bootldr uses /boot/params? Jun 22 11:11:29 koen: I remember talk on ML that folks had to binary-patch it to change root= ;-) Jun 22 11:11:50 yes, but most people don't know about /boot/params Jun 22 11:11:51 * rwhitby wonders whether he should add ixp4xxbe to the OVERRIDES in nslu2be.conf ... Jun 22 11:12:23 OE really needs some sort of inheritance of machine archs (i.e. ixp4xx->ixp4xxbe->nslu2be) Jun 22 11:12:27 koen: so that's all I know, didn't use it myself... Jun 22 11:12:59 rwhitby: uclibc is machine specific, so every machine needs to provide its own config Jun 22 11:13:13 rwhitby: but since yesterday there already is a generic armeb config Jun 22 11:13:26 (people should learn to pull and update) Jun 22 11:17:06 koen: I would expect all variants of ixp4xxbe (like nslu2be, dsmg600be, nas100dbe) would all have the same uclibc config (not that we have all those machines) - does monotone do symlinks? Jun 22 11:17:28 and yeah, armeb would probably cover them all anyway :-) Jun 22 11:18:57 rwhitby: monotone should do symlinks, but I don't know if all filesystems people use mtn on do Jun 22 11:20:10 if armeb file covers those machines... is it still needed a nslu2be dir at uclibc? Jun 22 11:21:16 hello Jun 22 11:27:48 hi all Jun 22 11:28:16 * steliosk thinks he come back from hell Jun 22 11:28:24 40 C outside Jun 22 11:28:40 looking at 42-43 tomorrow.... Jun 22 11:59:12 steliosk, what is your location? Jun 22 11:59:58 Athens,Greece but now it looks more like "outside the gates of hell" Jun 22 12:00:33 it's moderate here in germany. Rained all day yesterday here Jun 22 12:11:03 rwhitby, now using nslu2be results in using armeb/uClibc.machine, i've tried and works, so do we need a nslu2be dir in uclibc or just use armeb? Jun 22 12:40:23 ~convert 1 pint to l Jun 22 12:40:25 l is an invalid unit? Jun 22 12:40:28 ~convert 1 pint to litre Jun 22 12:40:30 litre is an invalid unit? Jun 22 12:40:33 ~convert 1 pint to litr Jun 22 12:40:35 litr is an invalid unit? Jun 22 12:40:41 ~fsck you Jun 22 12:40:42 e2fsck /dev/you : warning! filesystem contains dickheads! Jun 22 12:40:49 ~convert 1 pint to liter Jun 22 12:40:51 1 pint is approximately 0.473168 liter Jun 22 12:41:02 gracias NAiL Jun 22 12:41:08 US pint, I guess Jun 22 12:41:37 fscking crazy non-metric units Jun 22 12:41:56 ~convert 1 imperial pint to liter Jun 22 12:41:58 1 imperial pint is approximately 0.568275 liter Jun 22 12:42:21 so a pint is either 0.47 or 0.57 liter Jun 22 12:42:25 ~convert stone to kg Jun 22 12:42:27 stone is approximately 6.35029 kg Jun 22 12:42:53 ~convert 16 stone to kg Jun 22 12:42:55 16 stone is approximately 101.605 kg Jun 22 12:43:08 ~convert 1 furlong to meter Jun 22 12:43:10 1 furlong is approximately 201.168 meter Jun 22 12:43:39 ~convert 80 kg to stone Jun 22 12:43:41 80 kg is approximately 12.5978 stone Jun 22 12:44:45 ~convert score to year Jun 22 12:44:57 heh Jun 22 12:48:04 ~convert lokiec to meter Jun 22 12:48:16 ~convert wiorsta to meter Jun 22 12:48:27 ibot: you lack units Jun 22 12:49:09 ~hail RP for external-toolchain.conf Jun 22 12:49:10 * ibot bows down to RP for external-toolchain.conf and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 22 12:49:40 ~convert verst to meter Jun 22 12:50:16 ~convert 1 angstrom to light years Jun 22 12:50:18 1 angstrom is approximately 1.05702e-26 light years Jun 22 12:50:30 ~convert cubit to light years Jun 22 12:50:32 cubit is approximately 4.83271e-17 light years Jun 22 12:50:56 * polyonymous thinks cubit == lokiec Jun 22 12:51:08 ~convert 1 angstrom to familiar Jun 22 12:51:10 familiar is an invalid unit? Jun 22 12:51:33 funny Jun 22 12:52:15 ~convert 1 catholic to judaism Jun 22 12:55:54 ~convert rwhitby to debian Jun 22 13:22:13 * koen kicks CIA Jun 22 13:33:58 yay, openocd now works with the PXA270 :-) Jun 22 13:34:24 cool Jun 22 13:34:42 I heard drath saying something like that yesterday Jun 22 13:35:13 koen: yeah, I've testing for him Jun 22 13:35:31 ah, so he was talking about you :) Jun 22 13:35:49 koen: still does not work with libftdi, so you have to use ftdi binary lib :-\ Jun 22 13:36:02 for you bdi2000? Jun 22 13:36:41 koen: I have a bdi2000, but with openocd I'm using a olimex ARM-USB-OCD Jun 22 13:37:31 koen: I have a customer that has been fighting with some fancy corelis jtag tool for 2 months and can't get it to work Jun 22 13:37:46 koen: so now I can tell them, buy a $80 olimex unit, I'll you are set :-) Jun 22 13:38:21 'but but but...' Jun 22 13:39:50 cbrake: nice device Jun 22 13:40:21 hrw: yeah, its nice to finally have an open jtag solution! Jun 22 13:40:49 * cbrake puts his bdi2000 away ... Jun 22 13:41:23 cbrake: You know what is missing in libftdi for the PXA27x support? Jun 22 13:41:38 stefan_schmidt: I get the following error: Jun 22 13:41:46 * hrw likes openmoko debugboard - but it lack case Jun 22 13:41:53 cbrake: drath was talking to me about it for our EZX phones. Jun 22 13:41:58 Error: ft2232.c:188 ft2232_write(): ftdi_write_data: usb bulk write failed Jun 22 13:41:58 Error: ft2232.c:357 ft2232_send_and_recv(): couldn't write MPSSE commands to FT2232 Jun 22 13:42:04 hrw: Case are for user. ;) Jun 22 13:42:09 stefan_schmidt: I have no idea what is wrong at this point Jun 22 13:42:31 stefan_schmidt: ftd2xx lib works fine though Jun 22 13:42:38 cbrake: hmm, does not look good. But with the binary one it works ok? Jun 22 13:42:39 stefan_schmidt: sure but this is too light to keep in place Jun 22 13:42:54 cbrake: ok, I'll test it with one EZX phone next week Jun 22 13:43:16 stefan_schmidt: I posted a config to http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=OpenOCD_scripts Jun 22 13:43:22 hrw: Good point. Jun 22 13:43:36 cbrake: thanks Jun 22 13:44:00 stefan_schmidt: let me know if libftdi works for you Jun 22 13:44:05 ah, finally some sanity Jun 22 13:44:06 http://blackfin.uclinux.org/gf/project/multimedia/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fffmpeg%2Fpatches%2F Jun 22 13:44:12 patches instead of forks Jun 22 13:44:31 cbrake: Will do. Trying with the working one first though. Jun 22 13:45:35 cbrake: jtag_nsrst_delay 260 works for you? Jun 22 13:45:47 cbrake: drath told me I should use 500ms Jun 22 13:46:03 stefan_schmidt: yes. depends on the reset chip used on your board. Mine is 260ms, some are 500ms Jun 22 13:46:54 stefan_schmidt: unless you can measure it with a scope, you'll need to determine it empirically Jun 22 13:47:00 cbrake: ok, that means I will play with this value a bit. Jun 22 13:47:06 stefan_schmidt: right Jun 22 13:51:08 has anyone tried to get OE working under cygwin ? Jun 22 13:53:03 kergoth years ago Jun 22 13:53:46 hrw : Any documentation around ? Jun 22 13:54:24 steliosk: he switched to colinux as parsing (which was slow at that time) was even slower Jun 22 14:15:23 hi everybody Jun 22 14:17:27 hi thesing Jun 22 14:35:11 koen, ping Jun 22 14:39:21 hello... i'm trying to build some packages in org.openembedded.oz354x, i have an akita and I want to modify some of the stock apps. Jun 22 14:39:35 i setup per the insturctions, but am stumped on a build error Jun 22 14:39:47 local variable 'bb' referenced before assignment Jun 22 14:39:56 from bitbake, known issue by any chance? Jun 22 14:40:21 it's version 1.8.5 off svn Jun 22 14:41:23 kalineon: .oz354x is incompatible with 1.8 Jun 22 14:41:43 ahh okay thx, any suggested version? Jun 22 15:03:36 1.6 Jun 22 15:03:48 1.6.4 or newer to be exact Jun 22 15:04:28 Crofton: pong Jun 22 15:05:01 I looked though mkimage and I do think it has any dependencies on the target hw Jun 22 15:05:31 I'm wondering if we could make a bb file that just ran "make tools" Jun 22 15:05:51 s/do/don't/ ? Jun 22 15:05:53 and staged mkimage Jun 22 15:06:00 thx hrw Jun 22 15:06:01 right do not Jun 22 15:06:02 on the version recommendation. Jun 22 15:06:22 Crofton: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/uboot/u-boot-mkimage-gta01-native_oe.bb Jun 22 15:06:36 yeah, but the gta name is confusing Jun 22 15:06:45 and the patches extraneous Jun 22 15:06:45 so rename it :) Jun 22 15:07:47 I amy look at it this afternoon Jun 22 15:07:54 or go home a get ready for vacation Jun 22 15:07:56 :) Jun 22 15:08:07 We have a circus this afternoon in the lab Jun 22 15:09:05 I did build a davinci kernel last night Jun 22 15:09:13 no EVM to test it on though :( Jun 22 15:54:37 man Jun 22 15:54:48 I absolutely *hate* these Open University book Jun 22 15:55:30 the control engineering one spends a full page on "linearisation" without ever mentioning 'differential' Jun 22 15:56:26 koen so why use OU books ? Jun 22 15:57:01 because it's the mandatory book for the course Jun 22 15:57:10 and the professor doing the course wrote it Jun 22 15:58:47 nothing like cheating to get a few book sales Jun 22 15:59:35 time to do something that requires more braincells: watching A-team reruns Jun 22 15:59:49 ;) Jun 22 16:00:15 a-team rules Jun 22 16:07:37 Do you get "High Mountain Ranger" re-runs? Jun 22 16:07:53 have a nice weekend guys Jun 22 16:13:46 Crofton__: never seen that show, what is it Jun 22 16:14:01 Crofton__: get some Texas Ranger thing with Chuck Norris Jun 22 16:16:27 Walker, Texas Ranger? Jun 22 16:16:49 Crofton: http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/ Jun 22 16:17:40 koen: yeah that one Jun 22 16:18:37 hihi Jun 22 16:30:47 koen: +DEPENDS = "gpsd ilibxml2 libsoup dbus-glib" Jun 22 16:30:54 *i*libxml2 Jun 22 16:35:20 XorA, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Mountain_Rangers Jun 22 16:37:31 hm the serie made it never to europe Jun 22 16:37:44 you don't know what you missed Jun 22 16:37:52 we would watch it and laugh Jun 22 16:38:17 crofton come to europe and bring some dvd's with you Jun 22 16:38:32 I'll see if I can find some Jun 22 16:39:05 given you lot's tendency to watch bad American TV, I think this wil be huge in EU :) Jun 22 18:12:58 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra9d59f7c... 10/ (1 packages/sphyrna packages/sphyrna/sphyrna_svn.bb): sphyrna: add svn package. python stuff still pending. Jun 22 18:13:15 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rf2d5a94b... 10/ (432 files in 91 dirs): Jun 22 18:13:15 merge of 'a9d59f7c5db704e36d7f7dbda87b750cabbbc775' Jun 22 18:13:15 and 'fcf3721db5cf2d3c669e8d3d36cd3ca4df792f6f' Jun 22 18:18:01 * * OE Bug 2549 has been created by papercrane(AT)reversefold.com Jun 22 18:18:03 * * Directfb attempts to use host vnc library Jun 22 18:18:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2549 Jun 22 18:20:43 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r3715ba25... 10/ (1 packages/directfb/directfb_1.0.0.bb): directfb: forcefully disable vnc Jun 22 18:21:50 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * re2e2ace9... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Jun 22 18:21:50 merge of '3715ba2581395f5be7a350afaaddb444e3568f12' Jun 22 18:21:50 and 'f2d5a94bba7b716f91c7e2e30b85f8af68b04ae1' Jun 22 18:28:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r34310ed0... 10/ (1 packages/geoclue/geoclue_git.bb): geoclue: fix typo Jun 22 18:29:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf1f6c316... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Jun 22 18:29:06 merge of '34310ed029b0ccbcd834f89fcea4e24c5d044ecc' Jun 22 18:29:06 and 'e2e2ace957e66ed034ec39428d251e7ed9d0bb50' Jun 22 18:31:28 Hello all! Jun 22 18:31:56 I wondered if you were going to merge bluetooth-alsa to get A2DP working... Jun 22 18:33:17 * XorA wonders how he can have a bazillion lego bricks and not the ones he needs Jun 22 18:33:20 that should be already in bluez 3.11 Jun 22 18:33:36 its in OE as btsco isnt it? Jun 22 18:33:51 no, afaik that's all obsolete Jun 22 18:33:56 everything is in bluez now Jun 22 18:34:02 nicely wrapped in dbus Jun 22 18:34:22 cool Jun 22 18:35:23 which means the dbus-fearing crowd (opie) is on the wrong end of the deal Jun 22 18:35:48 qtopia4 does have cool bluetooth *and* dbus integration Jun 22 18:36:01 * * OE Bug 2550 has been created by papercrane(AT)reversefold.com Jun 22 18:36:02 koen, opie isnt qtopia4 based ... Jun 22 18:36:03 * * imlib2 fails with impossible construc in asm Jun 22 18:36:03 I see Jun 22 18:36:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2550 Jun 22 18:36:17 Marex: right, you loose Jun 22 18:36:34 koen, me? why? Jun 22 18:36:50 koen, moreover ... what do you have against opie? Jun 22 18:39:35 CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include/ Jun 22 18:39:40 ~lart uclibc svn Jun 22 18:39:40 * ibot judo chops uclibc svn Jun 22 18:40:06 koen hm Jun 22 18:40:44 koen, would you mind at least answering me? Jun 22 18:40:46 Marex, koen disapproves opie's dislike towards dbus. And I quite agree with him Jun 22 18:41:19 oh ... ok Jun 22 18:41:23 Marex: among other things. This is an old, old debate, I suggest searching the web for more Jun 22 18:41:28 polyonymous, thanks for answer Jun 22 18:46:43 opie doesnt fear dbus, it just wasnt meant to use it Jun 22 18:48:58 does Qtopia run on a Palm TX though? Jun 22 18:50:04 seen some zire 72 action, no TX Jun 22 18:50:54 does linux run on it and it has a framebuffer? Jun 22 18:51:08 msd: hackndev project which works on them lacks direction and consistency Jun 22 18:51:59 All i wantis A2DP on a linux TX :( Jun 22 18:58:56 psokolovsky_, shut up Jun 22 18:59:03 ;-E Jun 22 18:59:29 ljp, yup, linux on TX is nearly completed Jun 22 18:59:32 Marex: well, you're not in your sandbox, so choose wording Jun 22 18:59:47 lets move to my sandbox then Jun 22 19:00:00 lol Jun 22 19:00:00 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb3a0ae7a... 10/ (14 files in 14 dirs): Jun 22 19:00:00 linux-handhelds-2.6: Enable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD. Jun 22 19:00:00 * This is required to support *standalone* *initramfs*. Jun 22 19:00:06 psokolovsky_, and stop humiliating projects you are not affilated with even a single bit Jun 22 19:00:14 Marex Jun 22 19:00:32 Would Qtopia be possible than soon on the TX? Jun 22 19:00:41 sure, why not Jun 22 19:00:45 msd, yes Jun 22 19:00:52 Im working on opieII .bb file Jun 22 19:00:57 And that has bluez1.11 Jun 22 19:00:58 Marex: I'm for a year working on upstream project for hackndev, so know what I'm talking about Jun 22 19:01:27 Marex, do you find humiliating projects you are affiliated with more appropriate? :) Jun 22 19:01:40 psokolovsky_, Im hackndev developer for more than year and you joined well ... few months ago ? Jun 22 19:01:46 Keep the peace folks Jun 22 19:01:47 :D Jun 22 19:01:56 no need to argue Jun 22 19:02:06 put on some reggae Jun 22 19:02:09 and breath slowly Jun 22 19:02:14 but hey Jun 22 19:02:16 msd, it's fun, once in a while. Jun 22 19:02:17 msd: let the kids have some fun ;) Jun 22 19:02:25 polyonymous, no, I just dont like psokolovsky talking about something he doesnt understand at all Jun 22 19:02:28 ;] Jun 22 19:02:30 If I understand correctly Jun 22 19:02:51 Soon, I can run Anstrom, with Qtopia 4.2 on top of it Jun 22 19:02:54 on my Palm TX Jun 22 19:02:55 Marex, We are not supposed to like every single bit of this universe. Jun 22 19:03:05 which would give me instant A2DP support Jun 22 19:03:08 right> Jun 22 19:03:08 ? Jun 22 19:03:16 Speaking of opieII what does it look like now? Where is it, anyway? Jun 22 19:03:19 polyonymous, I know, no need to worry Jun 22 19:03:35 polyonymous, by now? it doesnt compile within OE yet Jun 22 19:03:43 and it compiles with problems outside oe Jun 22 19:03:43 msd, who said the word "soon"? :) Jun 22 19:04:02 Marex, where can I take a look at it, anyway? Jun 22 19:04:06 msd, you might be able to run opie II on palmtx soon Jun 22 19:04:13 ok marex Jun 22 19:04:16 polyonymous, opie.home.linuxtoho.org Jun 22 19:04:30 Marex, thanks Jun 22 19:04:32 But.... marex Jun 22 19:04:36 OPIE II Jun 22 19:04:36 s/toho/togo/ I take it :) Jun 22 19:04:45 will not have this D-BUS integration Jun 22 19:04:50 polyonymous, oops ... yea Jun 22 19:04:52 and so will not support the Bluez 1.11 Jun 22 19:04:59 and therefore not support A2DP Jun 22 19:05:02 is this correct? Jun 22 19:05:08 msd, opieII is based on qtopia-oss 4.2.2 Jun 22 19:05:29 you mean Opie(tm)II Jun 22 19:05:40 hehe Jun 22 19:05:45 ljp, ok ... ok ... OK! Jun 22 19:06:03 OpenPalmtopIntergratedEnvironment(tm)II Jun 22 19:06:13 and do you have permission to use the name opie in an irc conversation? Jun 22 19:06:16 ljp, shouldnt I rather mean opie({TM, R, C})II ? Jun 22 19:06:40 * Marex (tm) Jun 22 19:06:53 heh, not likely. Therefore, please keep it as short as OpenPalmtopIntergratedEnvironment, please. Jun 22 19:07:07 polyonymous, you forgot the TM! Jun 22 19:07:21 cant use it in a url, either Jun 22 19:07:31 * chouimat will use the term "fork of qtopia 4.2" ;) Jun 22 19:07:31 Marex, I'm not sure if OpenPalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentII is trademarked yet. Jun 22 19:07:54 even if it was ... OpenPalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentVersionTwo wont be Jun 22 19:08:08 it's not a fork of qtopia, if i understand correctly. Jun 22 19:08:09 * ljp wonders if a theme represents forking Jun 22 19:08:23 or ... OpenPalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentWithTwoILettersAtTheEnd ;-] Jun 22 19:08:48 polyonymous, IT is a patch on qtopia/opensource ... Jun 22 19:09:00 or something ... as far as I understoof Jun 22 19:09:08 s/of/od/ Jun 22 19:09:18 Marex, why does anonymous http svn asks for auth? Jun 22 19:09:32 so you can press enter ? Jun 22 19:09:33 does Qtopia and so Opie II support natural handwriting recognition? Jun 22 19:09:47 Marex, doesn'thelp. Although svn: url works fine Jun 22 19:10:03 maybe the top secret password is in the wiki :b Jun 22 19:10:11 and it is something like anonymous Jun 22 19:10:41 msd, If I recall correctly OpenPalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentWithTwoILettersAtTheEnd supports it Jun 22 19:10:51 lol Jun 22 19:10:58 nice Jun 22 19:11:00 so Jun 22 19:11:03 to conclude Jun 22 19:11:03 Marex, I think it was accidentally passworded, but who cares as long as svn: works. Jun 22 19:11:44 Opie II, will also have the bluez 1.11 package (d-bus support in opie2??) and will be able to play sound trough A2DP protocol? Jun 22 19:12:31 msd, I don't think OpenPalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentII will HAVE the bluez package. It's not a distribution. Jun 22 19:12:36 polyonymous, hmm ... weird Jun 22 19:12:54 but an apt-get will get me the package? Jun 22 19:13:01 I am confused Jun 22 19:13:01 it did come with bluez, but we took it out Jun 22 19:13:02 grrrrr Jun 22 19:13:17 And I think it's 3.11 Jun 22 19:13:26 ljp you work on Opie II? Jun 22 19:13:27 what a version ;-] Jun 22 19:13:31 polyonymous, ^ Jun 22 19:13:32 and qtopia Jun 22 19:13:44 What was the reason to take out bluez? Jun 22 19:13:56 ljp, no bluetooth for OpenPalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentII? Jun 22 19:14:06 ljp, or were you talking about opie? Jun 22 19:14:24 just talking about actually distributing libbluez with the sources Jun 22 19:14:32 ah Jun 22 19:14:44 but why wouldnt you? Jun 22 19:14:49 was there a specific reason? Jun 22 19:14:51 size? Jun 22 19:14:56 msd, why not include linux kernel as well? Jun 22 19:15:02 because integrators can add it themselves Jun 22 19:15:10 ljp, so OpenPalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentWithTwoILettersAtTheEnd will just communicate with separate bluez package and will use its headers at compile time etc and everything will be fine? Jun 22 19:15:15 and bsd and windows for the sake of portability. Jun 22 19:15:36 funny poly Jun 22 19:15:55 I knew you'd like it. Jun 22 19:15:55 Marex: something like that Jun 22 19:16:15 ljp, so -bluetooth switch is still unaffected? ok Jun 22 19:16:17 hmm. i hate when i forget to add water to tha coffee machine Jun 22 19:16:25 lol Jun 22 19:16:36 So Marex Jun 22 19:16:38 ljp, crunchy ;] Jun 22 19:16:43 It will be easy to add it? Jun 22 19:16:49 To Opie II? Jun 22 19:16:50 Marex: yes, opieII and qtopia 4 still have dbus and bluetooth Jun 22 19:17:03 ljp, ok, thanks :] Jun 22 19:17:12 ok ljp Jun 22 19:17:15 thats positive Jun 22 19:17:40 i wish my camera had bluetooth Jun 22 19:17:49 there are some who do Jun 22 19:18:00 I seen that Jun 22 19:18:03 ljp, solder it in ;] Jun 22 19:18:18 ljp, you can desolder the chip from some spare greenphone :b Jun 22 19:18:30 So all in all Jun 22 19:18:36 it will not be a lot of work for Jun 22 19:18:39 an end user Jun 22 19:18:41 of OPIE 2 Jun 22 19:18:49 to get the right libs for A2DP? Jun 22 19:19:01 a simple apt-get will do?? Jun 22 19:19:33 msd, you shouldn't believe any devloper's promises, anyway. Jun 22 19:19:52 lol Jun 22 19:20:03 just trying to get to the bottom of this Jun 22 19:20:11 If i get it all right here Jun 22 19:20:22 msd, to summ it all up: there are plans. Jun 22 19:20:40 not sure of the status of a2dp.. i know its either in the works, or working or buggy Jun 22 19:20:53 and yes, of course the plan is to make it as simple as possible. Jun 22 19:20:58 you don't even have to ask! Jun 22 19:21:19 koen just commented it all works fine in latest Bluez...? Jun 22 19:21:29 well, first LiveRamdisk for hx4700 is ready to ship... Jun 22 19:21:42 he said that qtopiacore4 is well prepared to handle it. Jun 22 19:22:21 which in its turn Jun 22 19:22:32 would make opie II well prepared to handle it :D Jun 22 19:22:44 Onlything needed is a GUI to control Bitrate Jun 22 19:22:47 Generic Stereo Jun 22 19:22:58 Addiotional buffer Jun 22 19:23:09 Reserve recourses (proc wise) Jun 22 19:23:13 etc Jun 22 19:23:14 :D Jun 22 19:23:24 This is gonna take a while Jun 22 19:23:32 msd, well, assuming that bluez part works fine and OpiePalmtopIntegratedEnvironmentII is released :) Jun 22 19:23:50 I need to make it work with my desktop, btw... Jun 22 19:24:06 well i got it working REALLLY well with PalmOS Jun 22 19:24:10 i am very happy with it Jun 22 19:24:14 polyonymous, yeah ... I never managed to configure headsetd on my desktop :b Jun 22 19:24:29 I got it working on XP and Vista too Jun 22 19:24:34 msd, softick audio gw was broken all the time for me Jun 22 19:24:45 thats because you havent registered Jun 22 19:24:46 and I dont have winblows at all Jun 22 19:24:48 Marex, I have, a while ago. But sometimes it went crazy hissing. Jun 22 19:24:57 they got a real clever anti theft protection Jun 22 19:25:03 polyonymous, lucky you ;] Jun 22 19:25:03 that makes it go broke all the time Jun 22 19:25:05 Marex, and I'm not sure if it's my cheap headset, kernel or whatnot. Jun 22 19:25:22 there latest version 1.12 is reaaaaly good Jun 22 19:25:42 msd, is it opensource? Jun 22 19:25:56 no but the other one is i sent Jun 22 19:26:05 msd, which one? Jun 22 19:26:17 btw if it isnt opensource, then it is useless Jun 22 19:26:33 I know Jun 22 19:26:37 this one is Jun 22 19:26:38 http://sourceforge.net/projects/a2dp-python/ Jun 22 19:27:32 * CosmicPenguin still uses bluetooth-alsa Jun 22 19:27:45 best... project.... evah! Jun 22 19:27:56 does it support AVCRP? Jun 22 19:28:09 AVRCP even :D Jun 22 19:29:18 Bath time! Jun 22 19:29:21 sure Jun 22 19:29:51 well thats what i want on a linux Palm TX :) Jun 22 19:30:28 this is not matter of linux palmtx anymore, this is a matter of userspace ... Jun 22 19:30:48 yeah - this is all userspace code Jun 22 19:31:07 I am not so into the programmin language Jun 22 19:31:12 and convincing the mighty koen to merge all the stuff into OE :B Jun 22 19:31:12 not at all actually Jun 22 19:31:22 All i know now, learned in 30 minutes Jun 22 19:31:59 Well Ill wait for OPIE II Jun 22 19:32:06 and from there on Jun 22 19:32:18 I might be able to poke the right people Jun 22 19:32:22 to get it working Jun 22 19:32:38 OPIE II would be a necessary thing first anyway Jun 22 19:33:35 msd, you can use bluetooth audio even without opendesktopintegratedenvironmentII Jun 22 19:33:56 I didnt understand nothing than at all Jun 22 19:33:57 lol Jun 22 19:34:04 Really? Jun 22 19:34:18 I thought it was all impossible still Jun 22 19:34:23 no I was just joking ... Jun 22 19:34:42 yes ... really ... just fire up properly configured headsetd and you should be fine Jun 22 19:35:16 hmmm Jun 22 19:35:21 so you are saying Jun 22 19:35:27 it is possible with OPIE 1? Jun 22 19:35:40 just pair them Jun 22 19:35:49 and of you go? Jun 22 19:36:11 Omg, I am confused :D Jun 22 19:36:40 OmgZ you really are confused ... Jun 22 19:36:55 thats right :) Jun 22 19:37:01 msd, btw it was said here many times already Jun 22 19:37:33 what I read, is that i would need the bluez package Jun 22 19:37:40 which isnt supported in opie 1 Jun 22 19:37:46 because of the lack of D-bus Jun 22 19:38:09 so I needed to wait for OPie 2, which was build off Qtopia 4.x which does supoort it Jun 22 19:38:13 bitbake bluez ? Jun 22 19:38:42 Bluez 3.11 Jun 22 19:39:54 whatever ... Jun 22 19:40:45 you just need bluez package and btsco ... nothing else Jun 22 19:41:51 ~lart internal compiler errors Jun 22 19:41:51 * ibot shoves a crumpet down internal compiler errors's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? Jun 22 19:43:17 and these packages can be installed on the currently running version of linux on the TX right? Jun 22 19:43:50 if you bitbake them ... Jun 22 19:44:01 but there will be new rootfs soon anyway Jun 22 19:44:02 whats bitbake? Jun 22 19:44:17 d'uh .... Jun 22 19:44:43 Oh well I am too stupid to try this even hehe Jun 22 19:44:43 msd, read the webside in the topic Jun 22 19:45:29 I read all pages already :) Jun 22 19:45:37 talked for 40 min here Jun 22 19:45:44 still dont understand jack shit :D Jun 22 19:46:21 no one can give me an understandable conslusive answer, and hey that might even be my fault :) Jun 22 19:47:51 msd, find the getting started page and tinker Jun 22 19:48:53 I doubt the getting started is telling me wat bitbake is Jun 22 19:49:08 and thats all that would get me started Jun 22 19:49:23 tried googling for bitbake? :P Jun 22 19:49:40 yup Jun 22 19:50:03 im guessing not, since it comes up as the first second third result Jun 22 19:50:20 I did but in relation to A2dp orso Jun 22 19:50:23 no Jun 22 19:50:27 in relation to bluez Jun 22 19:50:29 3.11 Jun 22 19:50:35 didnt get much interesting results Jun 22 19:59:29 03oe 07org.oe.dev * r3d460f0d... 10/ (21 files in 20 dirs): Jun 22 19:59:29 merge of 'b3a0ae7ae12db4c4db9d0e3b6c0b7dc12d016de8' Jun 22 19:59:29 and 'f1f6c3162864d453a8850ecb87b1994f9b160b9d' Jun 22 21:11:22 psokolovsky_: which MACHINE do I need to use packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/htcwallaby/defconfig ? Jun 22 21:11:59 koen: need to add htcwallaby machine, and then another 20 such ;-) Jun 22 21:17:25 koen: thanks for thinking of me! Jun 22 22:20:42 RP: greetings, are you awake? Jun 22 22:45:11 hi Jun 22 22:57:09 Anyone have an idea id OE's mkernel module handling infra is documented somewhere? Jun 22 23:00:40 psokolovsky_: they dont work Jun 22 23:01:16 XorA: what you mean - all that module_autoload_* stuff is there for disguise? ;-) Jun 22 23:01:29 psokolovsky_: the _autoload works, the _conf doesnt Jun 22 23:01:43 psokolovsky_: we never fixed the format for the newer modutils Jun 22 23:01:54 psokolovsky_: unless someone checked it in when I wasnt looking Jun 22 23:02:14 XorA: kinda seems that modprobe-2.6 exe has /etc/modutils.conf string in itself ;-) Jun 22 23:02:38 XorA: but yeah, my q was exactly why don't we use /etc/modprobe.conf Jun 22 23:02:47 XorA: so, do you think it needs fixing? Jun 22 23:03:06 psokolovsky_: I think it needs fixed to use modprobe.conf Jun 22 23:03:42 XorA: there're no 2.4 compatibility concerns? Jun 22 23:03:44 psokolovsky_: I did investigate ages ago, but work got in the way, but I have vague memories of tracking down problems to passing module parameters because they were in wrong place Jun 22 23:04:03 psokolovsky_: I dont have a 2.4 handheld Jun 22 23:04:24 psokolovsky_: also I think the pcmcia stuff installs some stuff modprobe current really doesnt like Jun 22 23:04:31 modalias stuff Jun 22 23:04:36 XorA: well, me too, but OE's scope is wider than what we have ;-) Jun 22 23:05:07 psokolovsky_: but I see no issue in fixing kernel.bbclass to put the right stuff in right place depending on kernel version Jun 22 23:05:21 XorA: ok, I see, thansk for confirmation that problem exists. wil check for koen/hrw think about that then... Jun 22 23:05:26 ok Jun 22 23:05:59 hostap_cs.conf from memory causes modprobe to want to go home and cry Jun 22 23:06:27 psokolovsky_: sounds like a good subject for an RFC so RP can look as well Jun 22 23:06:49 00:07 in my timezone so too late for me to think Jun 22 23:06:59 2:07 ;-) Jun 22 23:07:02 good night! Jun 22 23:09:42 1:07 Jun 22 23:09:45 ;) Jun 22 23:35:49 Do OE write accounts get removed if you are inactive Jun 22 23:36:36 I have been inactive for the last two months but will have time to devote back to OE in 2 months, do I need to let anyone know I'm just temp. inactive? Jun 22 23:36:55 svolpe_gerrath: your account can never be removed Jun 22 23:37:23 XorA, good :-) I really injoy working on OE and would hate to loose write access. Jun 22 23:37:26 svolpe_gerrath: as long as you have at least one checkin in DB Jun 22 23:37:37 XorA, I do. Jun 22 23:37:49 svolpe_gerrath: unless koen/mickeyl get bored one day and write some lua user access stuff Jun 22 23:38:26 svolpe_gerrath: getting married? Jun 22 23:38:56 no, just had a baby and also in the middle of a major design project at work :-/ Jun 22 23:39:50 svolpe_gerrath: ah baby would have been second guess :-D congrats Jun 22 23:39:59 XorA, well not just had a baby.. she is six months old but shes starting to get very active. Jun 22 23:40:12 XorA, Thanks. Jun 22 23:41:48 teach it to code quick Jun 22 23:42:00 then we can start the OE-nextgen project Jun 23 00:12:47 XorA, yes I plan to get her learning soon :-0 Jun 23 00:37:12 why does building cups require root privs? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 23 02:59:57 2007