**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 26 02:59:57 2007 Jun 26 03:10:10 hrw|gone: let's presume for a minute that I am the one staging imagemagick, and binconfig.bbclass looks like what I want. how would I be using it? Jun 26 03:10:38 also, can anyone explain oe_libinstall? Jun 26 03:48:09 hrw|gone: sorry, I spoke too soon. I'm using binconfig now. I'm also using oe_libinstall instead of install for the libs. wow, this might just be cool when I'm done. Thanks for all your help Jun 26 04:42:51 hi, I have quite problem Jun 26 04:43:36 when Im generating binary locales for glibc with qemu, it dies with illegal instruction (Im building with iwmmxt toolchain) Jun 26 04:44:35 no wonder, qemu doesnt support it in its full weirdness or whatever ... but my idea is - compiling localedef that is actually run in qemu separately only with xscale optimizations Jun 26 04:44:57 will that affect anything? will the internal structure of those locales change? Jun 26 06:26:01 * * OE Bug 2535 has been REOPENED by Jun 26 06:26:03 * *  PalmLD defconfig for 2.6.21 Jun 26 06:26:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2535 Jun 26 06:50:18 RP, are you around? Jun 26 06:56:40 morning Jun 26 06:56:46 hi hrw Jun 26 06:56:49 Marex: RP will be tomorrow not sooner Jun 26 06:58:37 hrw, ok, thanks ... I was hoping he can help me a bit with qemu and also with tsc2101 driver (which has problems with suspend, but that might be platform dependent) Jun 26 06:59:01 hrw, Im still trying to convince qemu to crunch iwmmxt localedef ... Jun 26 06:59:17 Marex: added iwmmxt support to qemu first? Jun 26 06:59:43 command was PATH="~~~" qemu-arm -r 2.6.16 -cpu pxa270-c0 -L etc etc etc Jun 26 06:59:56 yeah, Im using qemu-0.9.0 snapshot Jun 26 07:48:23 morning Jun 26 07:49:35 hi XorA Jun 26 07:49:55 hey hrw & XorA Jun 26 07:51:49 hi koen Jun 26 07:58:38 koen: get anywhere with kazethingamebobba? Jun 26 07:59:44 no, if segfaults while spawning a thread Jun 26 07:59:50 which renders gdb useless Jun 26 08:13:43 hi, all! Jun 26 08:13:55 do anybody have i2c spec somewhere? Jun 26 08:14:35 ~google i2c specification Jun 26 08:14:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3c19a13a... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-utils_3.12.bb): bluez 3.12: enable hid2hci Jun 26 08:14:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7d911a2d... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): psplash: add compass logo for angstrom Jun 26 08:17:34 hid2hci is needed for my bt dongle Jun 26 08:18:15 and OE enables it in /etc/default/bluetooth Jun 26 08:21:00 koen, hi ... is there any way to convince qemu to crunch iwmmxt localedef? Jun 26 08:21:25 I even used that 0.9.0+cvs official snapshot, still no luck with it, still dies Jun 26 08:28:42 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r999d34f6... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): slugos-init: Updated turnup, sysconf and reflash scripts to handle the root partition being named 'rootfs' instead of the vendor firmware naming. Jun 26 08:28:57 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re1e86e65... 10/ (24 files in 15 dirs): Jun 26 08:28:57 merge of '7d911a2d488420f755862dde3e5c82e43913c991' Jun 26 08:28:57 and '999d34f6a16eb76013607894a0608c627e0279a1' Jun 26 08:29:35 polyonymous: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~koen/lyx-15.0.rc1.png Jun 26 08:29:42 polyonymous: that's qt 4.3 based Jun 26 08:31:09 now we need TeXlive Jun 26 08:31:40 koen: where the hell is libgtk_webcore_nrcit? Jun 26 08:31:55 osb_nrcit_svn.bb ? Jun 26 08:32:18 I have like three different ipk with osb* in it Jun 26 08:32:25 WTF is going on there Jun 26 08:32:53 they renamed their libs after importing a new webkit snapshot Jun 26 08:33:15 time to clean tmp/ :-) Jun 26 08:40:42 hrw: google.pl and google.jp now work in gpe-mini-browser Jun 26 08:49:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3d778ba4... 10/ (1 packages/lyx/lyx_1.4.4+1.5.0rc1.bb): lyx 1.50rc1: RDEPEND on python-shell Jun 26 08:49:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3798d198... 10/ (1 packages/pimlico/dates_0.4.3.bb): dates: update to 0.4.3 Jun 26 08:50:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6417986e... 10/ (1 packages/pimlico/tasks_0.8.bb): tasks: update to 0.8 Jun 26 08:55:15 koen: out of box? Jun 26 08:57:02 after installing ttf-anima-manga Jun 26 08:58:11 (for .jp, .pl is fine with dejavu) Jun 26 08:59:49 pcmciautils small update is coming Jun 26 09:00:15 koen: could save space for .pl by removing all vowels from fonts :-) Jun 26 09:02:26 zecke now has his math exam *crossfingers* Jun 26 09:12:22 hello Jun 26 09:22:54 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r60f8ab65... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): pcmciautils: added patch (from git) to not use MODALIAS in rules as it is deprecated since udev 080 (sync with Poky) Jun 26 09:23:04 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7e7e3315... 10/ (311 files in 69 dirs): Jun 26 09:23:04 merge of '60f8ab65a31175b75e99193102e2ec70cbdfdef8' Jun 26 09:23:04 and '6417986ed931c354e68da472aabbf608cb98eb63' Jun 26 09:23:33 hrw: yay Jun 26 09:31:34 hi djay-il Jun 26 09:34:24 woglinde: mind helping a little? Jun 26 09:38:28 XorA: something for you goes to mtn Jun 26 09:45:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdec7cadd... 10/ (1 packages/images/angstrom-minimal-image.bb): angstrom-minimal-image: don't install translations (from poky) Jun 26 09:45:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r674974b8... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/angstrom-gateway-image.bb): angstrom-gateway-image: add image with samba/swat/dnsmasq/iptables/ssh Jun 26 09:45:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r129af2bd... 10/ (1 packages/iptables/iptables_1.3.8.bb): iptables: update to 1.3.8 Jun 26 09:45:51 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb9a740a3... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Jun 26 09:45:51 prism-firmware: added support of loading 1.8.4 firmware for Prism2/3 CF cards on insert (from Poky) Jun 26 09:45:51 This will give possibility of using WPA/WPA2 for users which cards have firmware Jun 26 09:45:51 older then 1.7.4 (which was first version with WPA support). Jun 26 09:45:52 It is alternative to reflashing cards. Jun 26 09:45:54 Tested on Prism2 and Prism3 cards, replace all previous ways of supporting them. Jun 26 09:45:56 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdc3624e6... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): prism3-firmware: dropped in favour of prism-firmware Jun 26 09:46:01 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9a966145... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): prism3-support: dropped in favour of prism-firmware Jun 26 09:46:07 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r89afd397... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: use prism-firmware instead of older ways of support for Prism2/3 cards (based on Poky work) Jun 26 09:46:15 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r477ae007... 10/ (14 files in 9 dirs): Jun 26 09:46:15 merge of '674974b81d2da7e7d81070dc38e8b163632c887e' Jun 26 09:46:15 and '89afd3974ed8a86d2683d1222dcb1c60b2295772' Jun 26 09:46:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r944d7694... 10/ (13 files in 8 dirs): Jun 26 09:46:23 merge of '129af2bd91ba53785161642a1d0002b55797f5f4' Jun 26 09:46:23 and '477ae0076f30be01a0a3ccbeffc47b13efb2b7c4' Jun 26 09:46:53 nice Jun 26 09:47:37 will make the kismeters happy as well Jun 26 09:47:42 koen, btw, some firmware packages download firmware at build time, not fetch time, it sometimes is annoying when you are not fully online... Jun 26 09:47:52 and we can runny hunny pot APs :-) Jun 26 09:52:36 someone: if I don't have /dev/initctl in my rootfs, could it witness a problem? Jun 26 09:55:05 hrw: the new prism scripts is now in the angstrom feeds, update task-base-pmcia will follow soon Jun 26 09:56:23 great Jun 26 10:13:03 ~lart guadec for not running at same time as brummy 2600 Jun 26 10:13:04 * ibot pushes the wall down onto guadec whilst whistling innocently for not running at same time as brummy 2600 Jun 26 10:35:55 WTF is fbreader in the machine feeds? Jun 26 10:37:23 urg, what a horrible peice of crap Jun 26 10:37:27 yeah, the gui is *compile time* Jun 26 10:37:42 and I used it once and it was unreadable Jun 26 10:37:55 * XorA fails to see the attraction Jun 26 10:41:32 * XorA wonders what happens when screen rotates on the Zaurus machines Jun 26 10:41:43 it breaks Jun 26 10:41:52 that's why fbreader has builtin rotation Jun 26 10:42:03 * XorA boggles Jun 26 10:42:24 next fbreader will send email and read nntp news Jun 26 10:42:53 to be fair, the default maemo stuff doesn't have xrandr, so bultin rotation has its uses Jun 26 10:43:30 so support both, not break totally Jun 26 10:43:48 applications that dont support resize are so 1970's Jun 26 10:44:02 it is zaurusware.... Jun 26 10:44:30 so its hacked for zaurus, but doesnt support zaurus, genius Jun 26 10:48:38 koen: we need to invent an icon for midori Jun 26 10:51:13 and lyx Jun 26 10:51:32 lyx icon can probably steal from debian patch Jun 26 10:51:37 or fedora Jun 26 10:51:45 thats where I normally half inch them Jun 26 10:54:02 * koen weighs the guinnea pigs Jun 26 10:55:09 90% fur and 10% fat :-) Jun 26 11:05:42 they have a gift for turning stray into shit Jun 26 11:07:00 hi there Jun 26 11:11:05 s/stray/hay/ Jun 26 11:56:34 re Jun 26 12:04:36 oh dear Jun 26 12:05:52 What, what? Jun 26 12:06:04 Did you see him, did you see him? Jun 26 12:06:14 Look man, tell me, please Jun 26 12:08:40 whoa, vnc ssh tunneled on me phone :-) Jun 26 12:08:54 :) Jun 26 12:10:53 seeing KDE on a PocketPC phone is amusing Jun 26 12:37:19 morning all Jun 26 12:38:34 hey RP Jun 26 12:38:34 hi RP Jun 26 12:39:01 hey RP Jun 26 12:39:27 RP: only 5 days left till bitbake 1.8.x goodness :) Jun 26 12:40:29 RP: hey, how are you? Jun 26 12:41:57 koen: who was the OM guy who was supposed to update their bitbake patch by now? Jun 26 12:45:30 koen: yes :) Jun 26 12:45:46 rwhitby: dunno Jun 26 12:45:47 zecke: a bit sunburnt, thanks ;-) Jun 26 12:46:06 sunburn means sun instead of rain :) Jun 26 12:46:55 must be not in the UK then :-) Jun 26 12:47:43 koen: Yes, no rain, just 35C upwards temperatures Jun 26 12:47:47 XorA: Italy ;-) Jun 26 12:48:21 RP: then you came back to torrential floods, dams bursting and general chaos :-) Jun 26 12:49:10 XorA: Getting off the plane was a shock to the system, especially to those wearing shorts (I had more sense than that) :) Jun 26 12:49:20 heh heh Jun 26 12:49:45 I did same coming back from Amsterdam, 25 -> 10 degrees, I had boots, jeans and long jacket ready on plane Jun 26 12:49:55 * koen removes shorts from his scotland kit Jun 26 12:50:16 koen: you heard the saying about scottish weather? Jun 26 12:50:18 This was 35 -> 8 (it was midnight before I got home last night) Jun 26 12:50:36 XorA: like a shower? Jun 26 12:50:47 koen: if you dont like the weather, wait 5 minutes Jun 26 12:51:00 koen: I can't remember when I last wore shorts in the UK... Jun 26 12:51:16 real programmers do not wear shorts :-) Jun 26 12:53:18 XorA: but OE developers do Jun 26 12:53:35 freaks Jun 26 12:53:44 morning Jun 26 12:54:48 hey chouimat Jun 26 12:56:00 hi chouimat Jun 26 13:07:00 ~seen steliosk Jun 26 13:07:10 steliosk was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 21h 33m 42s ago, saying: 'heh i think even on another galaxy it will be the same :)'. Jun 26 13:26:19 greetings Jun 26 13:27:21 If PKG_CONFIG_PATH is set to the old location in staging/$ARCH/share/pkgconfig someone is using an old or tree or what else could cause this? Jun 26 13:27:26 hi mwester Jun 26 13:34:20 any idea why bitbake package-index updates /all /i686 and /mp900c but not armv5te ?? all my packages are built, but i cant make an image due to 'supposed' missing deps, which *are* located in /armv5te Jun 26 13:35:04 machine package types not defined corrently? Jun 26 13:35:32 its possible, but then wouldnt the packages fail to buil? Jun 26 13:35:38 build* Jun 26 13:35:41 nope Jun 26 13:36:07 the list of package arches in machine.conf is fed into ipkg.conf, but not really used apart from that Jun 26 13:36:53 hmm thanks, will look into that. as everything built fine for another arch. Jun 26 13:38:18 would that be PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCH ? Jun 26 13:38:27 i have it set to armv5te Jun 26 13:38:48 and TARGET_ARCH set to arm Jun 26 13:38:51 Looks like I just ran into the same issue... Jun 26 13:38:53 Farquaad: sounds right then Jun 26 13:39:03 hmm. Jun 26 13:40:03 odd thing is.. i renamed /armv5te to /arm and package-index then found /arm and made a package list Jun 26 13:40:19 still wont build an image Jun 26 13:40:26 Farquaad: which machine? Jun 26 13:40:27 even if i link armv5te to arm Jun 26 13:40:35 hrw, nec mobilepro 900c Jun 26 13:40:56 you want PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS = "armv4 armv4t armv5te" Jun 26 13:41:07 Farquaad: add line which koen wrote Jun 26 13:41:17 doh! seriously? sweet. thanks! Jun 26 13:41:24 didnt think i needed all 3 Jun 26 13:53:13 hmm. that didnt do it either. package-index still refuses to update /armv5te :-/ Jun 26 13:54:21 Farquaad: pastebin config then Jun 26 13:54:23 then you have a typo somewhere Jun 26 13:54:23 ~pastebin Jun 26 13:54:24 i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well Jun 26 13:54:42 k gimme a minute Jun 26 13:58:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r96bd64db... 10/ (1 conf/machine/qemuarm.conf): qemuarm: fix PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS Jun 26 14:01:57 i put everything up... http://freeshells.ch/~wicked74/900c/linux/OE/ Jun 26 14:02:31 you have a typo Jun 26 14:02:39 [15:40] koen: you want PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS = "armv4 armv4t armv5te" Jun 26 14:03:06 ARCH_S_ Jun 26 14:03:31 doh. man thats the kind of day im having. hah. thanks again. Jun 26 14:04:00 hmm, maybe that variable should be sanity checked like some others Jun 26 14:04:20 anyway add that upstream if you want for another platform. Jun 26 14:04:53 Farquaad: add it into bugtracker when got it working Jun 26 14:05:00 alright Jun 26 14:05:37 it should work. i built plain arm image and used the xscale kernel. worked fine. Jun 26 14:27:00 * * OE Bug 2567 has been created by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es Jun 26 14:27:02 * * Patch to generate atk version 1.19.3 Jun 26 14:27:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2567 Jun 26 14:34:51 Eureka!!! Jun 26 14:34:55 it works now Jun 26 14:36:13 djay-il: yay! Jun 26 14:37:19 koen: you know what the problem was? Jun 26 14:40:19 please tell :) Jun 26 14:40:45 anyone know if it is possible to get an SysOn CF Memory GPS III to work on the Zaurus SL-C3200? the drivers that came with it are for windows ce Jun 26 14:41:54 koen: sec :-) Jun 26 14:44:37 or do i not need to install any drivers for it? Jun 26 14:45:01 koen: besides thise things that I had ABI compatibility, the REAL problem was in....(drums...) Jun 26 14:45:14 permissions and ownership on rootfs! Jun 26 14:45:19 heh Jun 26 14:46:33 re Jun 26 14:46:48 so now I have init starting, and problems are much easier to debug.... Jun 26 14:50:01 so, thanks to everyone who helped :-) Jun 26 14:50:35 * djay-il thanks koen, XorA, hrw, cbrake, woglinde and others Jun 26 14:50:42 djay-il: I found the right options for nfs a few years back and haven't dared to change them on my server :) Jun 26 14:50:51 it took me weeks to figure out... Jun 26 14:51:03 koen: no, it wasn't nfs export problem Jun 26 14:51:24 the problem was in that I've built OE as normal user, and this is how rootfs was created Jun 26 14:51:50 by normal user ID on my system is ~1000, and that's a problem for nfs-mounted rootfs Jun 26 14:52:00 aaaah Jun 26 14:52:13 nfs is so 1970 Jun 26 14:52:20 so I just took an image to other system, unpacked it with -p and it worked Jun 26 14:52:31 (i confess, I use it on devboards with wired ethernet) Jun 26 14:52:55 koen: I have no problem with flashing, I just prefer to test that system works beforehand Jun 26 14:53:04 yeah Jun 26 14:53:09 when it is still easy to change things Jun 26 14:53:16 * XorA just makes sure nfs exported filesystems are owned by root Jun 26 14:53:35 XorA: yea, I have to remember that Jun 26 14:53:45 so thanks all, I can happily go home now Jun 26 14:54:15 * djay-il is in great mood... Jun 26 14:58:10 * hrw has nfs owned by hrw:hrw Jun 26 14:59:20 bye Jun 26 14:59:36 djay-il: you work at compulab or technion? Jun 26 15:11:25 hi, all! Jun 26 15:11:54 hi Jun 26 15:12:01 how to make glibc stage libiconv? Jun 26 15:12:04 i am currently installing oe on debian on a ps3 Jun 26 15:12:28 i need some help and i will write a ps3 tutorial when i am done Jun 26 15:13:23 i need to update the oe database.. using montone, the error i get by doing this is that the shema of the downloaded database isn't capable with the shema of the online database Jun 26 15:15:14 so i followed the instructions and tried mtn --db=OE.mtn db migrate Jun 26 15:15:18 slapin: it does it by default Jun 26 15:15:30 but this says, it is an unkown shema Jun 26 15:15:59 koen, I rebuild glibc and it is not within staging dir (no libiconv* anywhere). Jun 26 15:16:18 slapin: correct, but it does have an iconv.h Jun 26 15:16:31 since libiconv is builtin to libc6.so Jun 26 15:16:55 koen, ah, got that, them lmsensors-apps needs fixing. Jun 26 15:18:53 you generally only need libiconv (packages/libiconv/) if you are building against uclibc and want locale support Jun 26 15:20:47 database shema version: 48fd5d84f1e5a949ca093e87e5ac558da6e5956d Jun 26 15:20:57 koen, a problem is that patch applied in lmsensors-apps*.bb forces -liconv Jun 26 15:21:18 -LIBICONV := $(shell if /sbin/ldconfig -p | grep -q libiconv\\.so ; then echo \-liconv; else echo; fi) Jun 26 15:21:18 +LIBICONV := -liconv Jun 26 15:21:25 yes, that patch needs rethinking Jun 26 15:21:32 koen, is any conditional possible here? Jun 26 15:21:47 koen what is the avr32 board at 69USD Jun 26 15:21:54 RP and I couldn't think of any conditional that wasn't completely bogus Jun 26 15:22:13 chouimat: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/avr32-network-gateway-reference-design Jun 26 15:22:37 thnaks Jun 26 15:23:06 ah a recent bitbake-1.8 svnnow patch Jun 26 15:25:32 jrn_: hi, how can I help you? Jun 26 15:25:57 jrn_: I try to keep my open windows below 12, you would be number 13 ;) Jun 26 15:26:06 jrn_: feel free to join #opie.de to talk german Jun 26 15:26:10 hehe^^ okay Jun 26 15:26:11 ah nice Jun 26 15:26:37 koen, thanks, then I'd remove it for now. probably better fix is FILES_append_uclibc? Jun 26 15:27:04 slapin: no, the 'best' solution is to check if libiconv.so is present in staging... Jun 26 15:35:22 <_diego_> about avr32, does it have a usb host port? Jun 26 15:36:34 _diego_: AFAIK not Jun 26 15:41:37 <_diego_> alphaone: it should.... http://www.avrfreaks.net/wiki/index.php/Documentation:NGW/Known_Issues Jun 26 15:47:27 _diego_: Sorry, I don't see what you want to tell me there. Jun 26 15:47:51 The datadsheet only mentions Device (i.e. Gadget) support Jun 26 15:51:48 _diego_: no usbhost ports on the ngw100 board Jun 26 15:52:19 <_diego_> it talks about problem with usb-storage, so i suppose that u can attach usb storage to it Jun 26 15:53:10 no, the board acts as usb-storage Jun 26 15:56:05 <_diego_> ok Jun 26 15:58:44 Good afternoon Jun 26 15:59:06 sirfred: good day Jun 26 15:59:31 Zero_Chaos: Hi Jun 26 16:03:43 * koen ponders about benchmarking fftw Jun 26 16:06:19 http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/entertainment/6240312.stm Jun 26 16:06:23 koen ^^^^^ Jun 26 16:08:11 chouimat: heh Jun 26 16:09:00 * * OE Bug 2568 has been created by  Jun 26 16:09:02 * * Angstrom logo looks bad on 320x320 screen Jun 26 16:09:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2568 Jun 26 16:10:42 I have a question, there is a .bb for libtiff, but imagemagick doesn't build it even though there is a dep for tiff. AND when i build libtiff, I get tiff, which is confusing. do I call it tiff or libtiff? Jun 26 16:11:51 what is the name of the bbfile? Jun 26 16:11:59 DEPENDS = "tiff" Jun 26 16:12:45 koen: I have that, and it doesn't build (lib)tiff Jun 26 16:13:05 zecke: imagemagick. there is only what, I forget which version because I updated my copy Jun 26 16:15:19 nevermind, I just generally suck Jun 26 16:15:59 RP, zecke: what do you think about a bitbake 1.8.6 release before merging the OM fetcher patch? Jun 26 16:16:46 koen: where there post 1.8.5 changes? Jun 26 16:18:29 zecke: not that I know off, but 1.8.4 is the last release Jun 26 16:18:58 post 1.8.4 changes? Jun 26 16:19:13 yes Jun 26 16:19:37 one :) Jun 26 16:19:58 http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.8/lib/bb/runqueue.py?rev=834&view=diff&r1=834&r2=833&p1=branches/bitbake-1.8/lib/bb/runqueue.py&p2=/branches/bitbake-1.8/lib/bb/runqueue.py Jun 26 16:20:23 "runqueue.py: Correctly redirect stdin when forking. Jun 26 16:20:24 cooker.py: If parsing errors are found, exit, too many users miss the errors" Jun 26 16:21:48 zecke: http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/bitbake?rev=833&view=rev Jun 26 16:22:01 reading that Jun 26 16:22:27 RP: I can do a release? Jun 26 16:25:29 heh Jun 26 16:25:45 unpack blackfin buildroot ; make ; make ; make Jun 26 16:25:49 and it breaks Jun 26 16:26:02 it tries to apply patches it applied in the second run Jun 26 16:36:51 zecke: Let me just check I didn't have another fix in poky Jun 26 16:38:04 slapin: hi, I just heard on #openezx that you are working on the pxa-camera driver - are there any patches against the current mainline kernel? Jun 26 16:38:43 pH5, it is quite separate Jun 26 16:38:49 pH5, hi Jun 26 16:39:17 pH5, I think you can take from hnd svn and add to Kconfig Jun 26 16:39:31 pH5, I work on i2c sensor now Jun 26 16:39:45 pH5, pxa CI is not ready yet. Jun 26 16:40:06 pH5, driver requires rewriting to make something good aout of it. Jun 26 16:40:33 pH5, since it is glued to specific hardware too much, and redundant. Jun 26 16:44:47 03rpurdie * r836 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): taskdata: Remove supriours PREFERRED_PROVIDER warnings Jun 26 16:44:53 zecke: All yours :) Jun 26 16:45:16 okay, let me get the 8h work day done :) Jun 26 17:15:11 * cbrake wonders if the OE mtn snapshot is still being updated ... Jun 26 17:15:21 can I make a depend for a specific version or above? for instance >=tiff-3.7.2 ? Jun 26 17:16:49 Zero_Chaos: no Jun 26 17:18:11 bummer. I guess I will just make my bugs in the tracker depend on each other ;-) Jun 26 17:18:23 XorA|gone: I made kismet gpsmap work :-) Jun 26 17:18:59 Zero_Chaos, I would like to test it but my gps device seems dorked Jun 26 17:19:47 kismet gps logs stay empty Jun 26 17:20:00 dcordes: I will try to have it on the bug tracker before I have to leave, but that is less than 4 hours from now and I need to get ready. Likely it will be on the tracker once it is all tested and I return, which will be Friday Jun 26 17:21:12 Zero_Chaos, if you would post it before I could try and have some testing Jun 26 17:21:24 I'm not really sure what about my device Jun 26 17:21:45 cbrake: -rw-r--r-- 1 oe www-data 124833279 2007-06-26 06:32 OE.mtn.bz2 Jun 26 17:21:48 dcordes: I doubt I will have the time to post. Nothing personal, but you will have the weekend :-) Jun 26 17:21:55 cbrake: so the cronjob still runs Jun 26 17:22:08 cbrake: can't say it the cronjob is actually updating it, though Jun 26 17:32:50 If I want to create a new package with the stuff that is normally installed in /usr/bin/file, is it just ${bindir}/file ? Jun 26 17:35:52 PACKAGES =+ "foo" Jun 26 17:36:06 FILES_foo += "${bindir}/file" Jun 26 17:36:19 thanks Jun 26 17:36:22 (the =+ is not a typo) Jun 26 17:36:37 prepend? why not append? Jun 26 17:37:05 otherwise ${PN} gets them Jun 26 17:37:05 er, n/m Jun 26 17:37:37 got it, thanks Jun 26 17:37:45 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rf0486ab9... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6_svn.bb): linux-hackndev-2.6 svn: SVN trunk is now 2.6.21-hnd2. Jun 26 17:37:50 hmmm Jun 26 17:38:01 I could have attended OLS it seems Jun 26 17:38:09 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb3a5d98a... 10/ (61 files in 34 dirs): Jun 26 17:38:09 merge of '96bd64db32828367264800d1cfdf956eff85cb26' Jun 26 17:38:09 and 'f0486ab90d9bcee9358419983d8574f60fbf94af' Jun 26 17:38:12 I should learn to use iCal better Jun 26 17:39:07 hey steliosk Jun 26 17:39:20 koen hi ! Jun 26 17:39:31 3 hours without power at 45 C Jun 26 17:40:02 * koen figures out why bfin is a mess Jun 26 17:40:18 their buildroot uses a patched uclibc 0.9.*27* Jun 26 17:40:26 instead their forked 0.9.29 in svn Jun 26 17:40:28 steliosk: ouch Jun 26 17:40:43 steliosk: You have a swimmingpool in your backyard? Jun 26 17:40:58 water evaporated :) Jun 26 17:42:07 man its crazy. Haven't seen such numbers since a few years back when i was in Saudi Arabia in Mid june Jun 26 17:42:18 there it was worst.... Jun 26 17:42:46 death valley was 48 degrees C Jun 26 17:42:51 but that's a dry heat Jun 26 17:43:35 * steliosk crosses fingers and hopes there are no more power outages Jun 26 17:43:50 my biggest concern is my wife.... Jun 26 17:44:40 koen: I'll make sure I'm downloading the right db. The one I just downloaded had 335 updates pull. Jun 26 17:44:43 steliosk: today it's 34C outside ... around 44 with the heat index ... Jun 26 17:44:56 cbrake: that's right Jun 26 17:45:02 anyway let's do some coding before the "buggy man" takes the power away again Jun 26 17:45:06 koen: ok, good to know Jun 26 17:45:07 cbrake: mtn-0.32: 2.2 M | 548.0 k | 325/325 | 0/0 Jun 26 17:45:17 tomorrow's one should be up to date Jun 26 17:45:50 koen : well haven't played with bfin to such a degree Jun 26 17:46:23 koen : but my biggest "problem" was the luck of mmu Jun 26 17:46:38 steliosk: I wish bfin had just one crappy vendor patch Jun 26 17:46:46 koen : for simple apps its more than enough Jun 26 17:46:58 instead of 3 uclibc source trees, 4 different shlibs formats, and 3 gcc versions Jun 26 17:47:18 koen : but for more complex stuff with threads etc, its just looking for trouble Jun 26 17:47:35 steliosk: I'm going to see which machine is the fastests with fftw Jun 26 17:47:48 fpga's :) Jun 26 17:48:05 i'll put a bet on that Jun 26 17:48:40 sure Jun 26 17:48:59 but ipkg install fftw probably doesn't work :) Jun 26 17:49:03 There is a low cost board with xilinx Virtex 4 (low cost <300 $) i read about Jun 26 17:49:17 wait a sec Jun 26 17:50:18 nonsense. qemu-arm built on FC5 segfaults on localdef %) Jun 26 17:50:41 psokolovsky: known problem on rpm based distros Jun 26 17:50:53 probably some spec file is wonky and everyone copied it Jun 26 17:51:45 koen: but do you have an idea what can be wrong? ;-) I tried gcc-4.1.0 and 3.2.2 available, it's the same ;-) Jun 26 17:52:12 well "use debian" is what I would say Jun 26 17:52:26 or "use ubuntu" if you are to stupid for debian ;) Jun 26 17:52:53 i loved zecke's "follow the white rabbit" in one mail to the ml :) Jun 26 17:52:55 'ubuntu is african for "can't configure debian"' Jun 26 17:52:59 koen: well, I have many noxes and distros around, and now setup continious integration exactly on FC box ;-) Jun 26 17:53:58 steliosk: sadly http://www.fftw.org/benchfft/ requires fortran Jun 26 17:54:56 too bad OE doesn't have gcc-native Jun 26 17:56:19 cbrake: snapshot updated and script fixed Jun 26 17:56:25 cbrake: thanks for noticing it Jun 26 18:02:17 koen : http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,4534,CID%253D25726%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4742%2526DID%253DDF2%2526LID%253D18806%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html?SUL=virtex4mini Jun 26 18:05:18 cute Jun 26 18:05:21 gbit ethernet Jun 26 18:05:51 but let me try to get a realtime spectrum analyzer working on the avr32 first :) Jun 26 18:07:24 * koen is looking forward to doing some C again Jun 26 18:10:21 koen : I did some reading on the dsp functions of avr32, looks interesting although it means assembly Jun 26 18:10:55 don't think there is any c lib around (yet) Jun 26 18:20:03 For those that helped earlier, thanks. mobilepro900c image built. :) Jun 26 18:20:09 Linux mp900c 2.6.17.11-mp9xx #1 Tue Jun 26 08:27:07 CDT 2007 armv5tel unknown Jun 26 18:20:58 and i'm out. cya. Jun 26 18:30:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4c78f550... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-utils_3.12.bb): bluez-utils 3.12: package hid2hci Jun 26 18:30:42 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r99cbcc8e... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-jlime-current.bb): Jun 26 18:30:42 packages/linux/linux-jlime-current.bb : Addition of development kernel build Jun 26 18:30:42 * JLime maintains a seperate git repository for our supported machines Jun 26 18:30:42 this .bb file will build the latest. Jun 26 18:30:42 * Configs will be draged from our other repository Jun 26 18:30:52 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r3138c13a... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 26 18:30:52 merge of '99cbcc8e87c723d0a9e1a7c858d8001fc155c6ec' Jun 26 18:30:52 and 'b3a5d98a7f1c8586a53bf99549d0abe02ce9d8b4' Jun 26 18:31:00 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r17f4c4ba... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Jun 26 18:31:00 merge of '3138c13a7a9b08f8cfb5650c96e544ad82b3b84a' Jun 26 18:31:00 and '4c78f5500334d26f8fcbdeda6f4a013b43269e86' Jun 26 18:31:14 steliosk: we can pester atmel about such a lib later Jun 26 18:31:25 hi koen Jun 26 18:33:08 hey vivijim Jun 26 18:34:29 do you know why configure in perl.bb change things to point to STAGING dirs? I'm not sure if it is a good idea because after the build *to many* things still pointing hardcoded to this location and this is breaking a lot of things in mamona. Jun 26 18:35:40 there are other packages that are poiting to staging and work dir erroneously and I don't have to many ideas to fix it... Jun 26 18:37:05 we usually use sed in do_install Jun 26 18:38:28 vivijim: like http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-June/005980.html Jun 26 18:40:30 koen uhm got it... but there is no one in do_install of my perl package. shouldn't it be there? Jun 26 18:41:05 maybe in cpan.bbclass or something like that Jun 26 18:41:26 you can always do do_install_append() { Jun 26 18:41:28 foo Jun 26 18:41:29 } Jun 26 18:51:11 * cbrake starts an OE build on a kqemu host -- can't believe how well kqemu is working Jun 26 18:53:23 cbrake: and finally opensource Jun 26 18:53:36 koen: nod :-) Jun 26 18:56:39 koen: would you like qtopia more if it ran on x11? Jun 26 18:56:59 ljp: I already like qtopia4 Jun 26 18:57:09 hmm bluez-utils fails for uclibc Jun 26 18:58:47 qtopia core has its own version of malloc Jun 26 18:59:06 which messes things up when using symbol visibility Jun 26 18:59:49 because the symbols dont get ezxported Jun 26 19:00:29 causes random crashes.. especiall in qtopia 4.3 :) Jun 26 19:03:23 ljp: enabling the external malloc isn't an option due to performance reasons? Jun 26 19:04:15 * koen has had problems with rpl_{re,m}alloc due to buggy m4 macros Jun 26 19:04:25 we are testing that now Jun 26 19:04:33 I think/hope Jun 26 19:06:00 ljp: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~koen/lyx-15.0.rc1.png <- qt4-x11 4.3.0 on a hx4700 Jun 26 19:06:31 nice Jun 26 19:07:01 polyonymous ported opie-reader to qt4, but haven't tried that Jun 26 19:07:13 interesting Jun 26 19:07:16 I want to try to get bits of kde4 in OE in august Jun 26 19:07:41 hmm Jun 26 19:07:50 koen cool I was looking at code of the codecs so I can use them for okular Jun 26 19:08:03 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader_cvs.bb Jun 26 19:08:38 cool Jun 26 19:10:48 ljp: you'd be amazed at the amount of KDE desktops at the maemo nokia lab in brazil :) Jun 26 19:11:03 (probably why they invited zack to bossaconference) Jun 26 19:11:30 i was invited as well, but couldnt attend Jun 26 19:13:01 koen, ljp, I did and it works, but I think it's quite dirty port and it takes a rewrite to get a decent one. Jun 26 19:13:25 we like dirty ports Jun 26 19:13:28 koen, ljp I also almost ported kdepimpi to qt4-x11 :) Jun 26 19:13:56 ljp, I wouldn't for example, recommend it for inclusion in openpalmtopintegratedenvironmentII as is :) Jun 26 19:14:19 polyonymous: why not look at okular and port it to qtopia 4.3 ? Jun 26 19:14:43 BTW, I've recently checked out the said environment and wasn't impressed. Perhaps, I'm missing something, though. Jun 26 19:14:55 chouimat, what is it? Actually, I'm porting things I use. Jun 26 19:15:08 ah Jun 26 19:15:35 chouimat, I never used it, but I have never seen an ebook reader getting anywhere close to opie-reader/uqtreader. Jun 26 19:15:41 polyonymous: kde4 version of kpdf .. http://kpdf.kde.org/okular/ Jun 26 19:15:49 Yeah, just googled. Jun 26 19:16:25 Well, I'm not so sure of usefulness of pdf-readers on pda... Jun 26 19:17:18 polyonymous: I have use for this ... and one that doesn't suck as much as opie pdf or whatever the name was Jun 26 19:17:48 chouimat, qpdf2 is one of the best pdf readers I've seen. Or, it would be if it worked properly :) Jun 26 19:18:04 But I think your opinion on its suckiness is quite justified :( Jun 26 19:18:34 * polyonymous is full of contradicting opinions. Jun 26 19:19:08 polyonymous: and okular can use poppler, which has a fixed-point backend Jun 26 19:19:14 hey birunko Jun 26 19:20:06 koen, I'm not going to dispute merits of okular, it's just that I doubt I want pdf reader on handheld. That would mean I don't think *I* can succeed in porting it :) Jun 26 19:20:22 BTW, is anyone interested in kdepimpi on qt4-x11? Jun 26 19:20:30 I want something like ipdf on a handheld so I can add notes Jun 26 19:20:48 polyonymous: kdepimpi is a fork of kdepim Jun 26 19:20:57 koen, hey =) Jun 26 19:20:58 koen, exactly why I liked qpdf2 - the annotations. Never heard of ipdf, tho. Jun 26 19:21:01 polyonymous: so why not start looking at kdepim in kde svn Jun 26 19:21:03 koen, I know. And bad one. Jun 26 19:21:08 koen thanks you just gave me an idea Jun 26 19:21:26 polyonymous: teh reader on http://www.irextechnologies.com/products/iliad Jun 26 19:21:28 koen, I did take a look, but at first glance it looked awfully bloated to me. Jun 26 19:21:38 thanks, koen. Jun 26 19:21:56 I didn't even know what iliad is. does it run OE? :) Jun 26 19:22:47 it runs OE Jun 26 19:22:55 put their tree isn't merged in yet Jun 26 19:22:59 sounds cool. Jun 26 19:23:04 we'll be meeting the irex dude at guadec Jun 26 19:23:07 http://developer.irexnet.com/websvn/listing.php?repname=Public&path=%2Fapplications%2Fipdf%2F&rev=0&sc=0 Jun 26 19:23:09 it's about a5 size? Jun 26 19:23:19 yes, a5 and 600 euro Jun 26 19:23:35 Sounds like my dream device. Jun 26 19:24:36 Thanks, koen, I'll take a closer look at it. Jun 26 19:25:46 poppler bugzilla should also have a few patches to make it faster as well Jun 26 19:26:03 polyonymous: compare epdfview and evince on a handheld Jun 26 19:26:29 both use poppler, but epdfview uses the fixed-point backend and evince the floating point one Jun 26 19:26:49 Aha. I take it epdfview is a bit faster :) Jun 26 19:27:09 koen: i think someone should probably adda --use-fixed-point flag to evince ;) Jun 26 19:27:50 robtaylor: it just changing one function call Jun 26 19:28:24 robtaylor: but the fixed point backend is called 'splash' and the fp one 'cairo', so guess what the evince dudes want to use Jun 26 19:28:30 koen: one day when i'm bored then Jun 26 19:28:52 koen: well it shouldnt be sweat to add a configure flag Jun 26 19:28:53 robtaylor: so the floating point one got a lot faster the past few months Jun 26 19:29:35 JustinP: ping Jun 26 19:35:08 * chouimat tries to come up with an intelligent idea that will enable him to get a greenphone Jun 26 19:36:39 pinball Jun 26 19:38:08 chouimat: when are those available for purchase? Jun 26 19:40:13 to run the contrib/site-config stuff, do you just run "autoreconf -I m4" in that directory? Jun 26 19:42:56 cbrake: sadly not Jun 26 19:43:14 cbrake: you'd have to ask zecke (or hrw) about the status Jun 26 19:43:38 koen: ok, I'm making some site changes for mono, and zecke said to put something in contrib -- trying to sort that. Jun 26 19:44:01 if you can find the m4 macros involved, add them to contrib Jun 26 19:44:13 we will figure out how to make them into tests later :) Jun 26 19:44:32 koen: ok, I'll add them, but I'm not autofoo wizard, so I'll leave the testing for later :-) Jun 26 19:58:50 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rd72fa246... 10/ (1 contrib/site-conf/m4/mono.m4 site/arm-linux): Jun 26 19:58:50 mono: add mono_cv_uscore to arm-linux site file Jun 26 19:58:50 add section to contrib/site-conf/m4/mono.m4, but this still needs some work. Jun 26 20:44:58 hi Jun 26 20:46:01 hola Jun 26 20:47:44 zecke: attending guadec? Jun 26 20:48:02 zecke: how does one test the contrib/site-conf/m4 stuff, or is what I did OK for now? Jun 26 20:48:36 cbrake: admitingly I'm not subscribed to the commits list Jun 26 20:49:02 cbrake: this is a weaknes. You add your test to m4 and then there is one file you add your test to (in site-conf) Jun 26 20:49:09 cbrake: and then run autoreconf Jun 26 20:49:12 koen I guess he will, after he told me his rate Jun 26 20:49:16 zecke: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-June/006471.html Jun 26 20:49:30 woglinde: grade Jun 26 20:49:59 woglinde: I don't charge you yet Jun 26 20:50:30 zecke: ok, I got an error in the mysql.m4 file -- I guess I could remove that for now to test mine Jun 26 20:50:34 If I would get a euro everytime a german says 'schocked' instead of 'shocked' :) Jun 26 20:51:07 koen: well, in theory guadec conflicts with a date of a test. I don't take tests anyway but I have inform the guy holding the lecture Jun 26 20:51:39 zecke a right grade Jun 26 20:51:59 koen: and I need to check if the lecturer I need to take my 2nd math exam will stay in university Jun 26 20:52:14 * zecke loves empty office space. I can listen to nirvana (loud) Jun 26 20:52:18 cbrake: what is the error? Jun 26 20:52:28 mornign Jun 26 20:52:29 hi hrw Jun 26 20:52:36 morning? Jun 26 20:52:45 ~ugt Jun 26 20:52:46 well, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Jun 26 20:52:49 hrw are you in australia? Jun 26 20:52:54 speaking about kdepim | kdepimpi and qt4/x11... Jun 26 20:52:57 xDDDD Jun 26 20:53:01 morning Jun 26 20:53:10 kdepim/pi has some extra things related to pda usage type Jun 26 20:53:12 * zecke is doing the Lutz got laid off dance Jun 26 20:54:08 zecke: /usr/share/aclocal/nspr.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_NSPR run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal Jun 26 20:54:12 m4/mysql.m4:35: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion Jun 26 20:54:15 m4/mysql.m4:35: the top level Jun 26 20:54:17 autom4te-2.61: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 Jun 26 20:54:20 m4/mysql.m4:35: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion Jun 26 20:54:22 m4/mysql.m4:35: the top level Jun 26 20:54:25 autom4te-2.61: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 Jun 26 20:54:27 autoreconf-2.61: /usr/bin/autoconf-2.61 failed with exit status: 1 Jun 26 20:54:28 sorry, that was supposed to be a pastebin link :-\ Jun 26 20:54:30 cbrake args Jun 26 20:54:35 hrw, yes, I believe it does, not that I ever cared about them, not sure they've ever worked either Jun 26 20:54:36 hehe Jun 26 20:54:39 cbrake: autoconf 2.61 != 2.59 Jun 26 20:55:13 polyonymous: I liked scaling of view with tap-and-move on timeline Jun 26 20:55:20 hrw: well, I did create this site-conf with autoconf 2.61 Jun 26 20:55:36 hrw, ah really? I didn't know about that. lemme see if it works on desktop :) Jun 26 20:55:42 polyonymous: it does not Jun 26 20:55:56 hrw, I mean in kdepimpi built on desktop Jun 26 20:56:16 woglinde: I have an official job title now. I'm bjoern's pet Jun 26 20:56:26 one day someone will join OE and move us to autoconf 2.6x just because no one told that it is hard Jun 26 20:56:27 hmm... hrw what is timeline? :) Jun 26 20:56:42 hrw: well, it is not hard Jun 26 20:56:44 polyonymous: left side of view with hours listed Jun 26 20:56:52 what's up with autoconf? Honestly, I never found it hard Jun 26 20:57:21 hrw, yes, it works :) Jun 26 20:57:37 cbrake: good, I get the same error on mono.m4 ;) Jun 26 20:57:45 polyonymous: people c&p bad stuff which breaks wheb updateing autoconf Jun 26 20:57:52 hrw: I'm just running this with the autotools on my host system -- is that correct procedure. Jun 26 20:57:57 anyway Jun 26 20:58:02 koen, copy'n'past is the root of all evil. Jun 26 20:58:02 'night all Jun 26 20:58:05 zecke: the mono.m4 needs serious work :-) Jun 26 20:58:06 night, koen Jun 26 20:58:15 cbrake: wow, I wrote a README Jun 26 20:58:33 zecke, were you sick? :) Jun 26 20:58:57 polyonymous: actually I do take SoftwareEngineering seriously, I'm such a morn Jun 26 20:59:02 s/morn/moron/ Jun 26 20:59:31 zecke, that's exactly why you shouldn't be writing readme. Take it seriously! If it was hard to write it should be hard to understand! Jun 26 21:02:35 cbrake: which distribution do you use? Jun 26 21:02:45 WANT_AUTOCONF= Jun 26 21:05:21 zecke: gentoo Jun 26 21:05:43 Good night Jun 26 21:07:26 cbrake, then WANT_AUTCONF environment var will get you autoconf version you want Jun 26 21:10:09 wow the debian wrapper script is shitty Jun 26 21:10:24 zecke which one? Jun 26 21:10:53 woglinde: autoconf, autoreconf, etc. Jun 26 21:11:15 woglinde: having a file which is called autoconf2.50 which actually is a 2.61 Jun 26 21:11:23 hm Jun 26 21:11:30 woglinde: when you do autoreconf -V you get two version numbers printed :) Jun 26 21:11:39 woglinde: one of autoconf, one of the debian script... Jun 26 21:11:54 hm Jun 26 21:12:06 seems I have only one version of autotools Jun 26 21:15:12 woglinde: hi Jun 26 21:15:16 cbrake: check gnu.m4 which adds a function to call the basic tests, invoke this from configure.ac, run rm aclocal.m4 ; aclocal -I m4 ; autoconf -I m4 Jun 26 21:15:17 hi mr_nice Jun 26 21:15:38 woglinde: did you found some time testing uclibc opie on simpad? Jun 26 21:15:55 mr_nice uclibc works great Jun 26 21:16:46 woglinde: cool I have to try it. Jun 26 21:17:24 woglinde: how big is the image? Jun 26 21:17:35 woglinde: is it less 16 mb? Jun 26 21:17:58 yes Jun 26 21:17:59 and uclibc is the only working libc for now Jun 26 21:18:01 mr_nice: iirc there is opie-image-16mb now in Oe Jun 26 21:18:12 and uclibc system is smaller then glibc one Jun 26 21:18:19 hrw oh nice Jun 26 21:18:22 hrw: thx Jun 26 21:18:25 I have to test it Jun 26 21:19:11 me, too Jun 26 21:20:37 * hrw do not want to remember what opie(tm)(c)(etc) is Jun 26 21:21:05 woglinde: I was playing a bit with the usb driver and I was able to ping my simpad. but trying to connect ssh or something else won't work Jun 26 21:22:18 hrw: gpe does not well run on my simpad. opie just runs better on it. Jun 26 21:23:39 mr_nice hm in my opinion it both runs well Jun 26 21:23:46 but I like opie more Jun 26 21:23:47 mr_nice: so let's support opie then ;-) indeed, try opie-image-16mb, but keep in mind it's reduced image. Jun 26 21:24:10 psokolovsky any options for local.conf now reuqired? Jun 26 21:24:16 preffered version? Jun 26 21:24:28 woglinde: so, can you confirm that opei on OE.dev works ok with uclibc? Jun 26 21:24:42 woglinde: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom Jun 26 21:24:53 i can confirm it Jun 26 21:25:09 woglinde: have you seen alignment traps on boot? Jun 26 21:25:17 psokolovsky yes I know the side Jun 26 21:25:19 zecke no Jun 26 21:25:33 woglinde: I heard there was lots of alignment faults with uclibc Jun 26 21:25:35 zecke I can show it on weekend Jun 26 21:25:57 ljp: have you used OABI or EABI? Jun 26 21:26:39 woglinde: do you own a sl4? Jun 26 21:26:45 mr_nice yes Jun 26 21:27:14 no t-sinus and no dect modul Jun 26 21:29:49 woglinde: can you upload your image for me? I don't know how fast I will be able to find a new ram for my build machine. Jun 26 21:29:58 oh Jun 26 21:29:59 hm Jun 26 21:30:10 tommorrow I will start a new build okay? Jun 26 21:30:17 woglinde: :) Jun 26 21:30:28 woglinde: that would be great Jun 26 21:36:22 woglinde: do you know who made the hh.org bootloader image for simpad? Jun 26 21:36:40 phillip blundel Jun 26 21:36:41 pb Jun 26 21:36:47 ~seen pb_ Jun 26 21:37:12 woglinde: no, Chicken would have been the right answer Jun 26 21:37:15 pb_ was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 76d 4h 1m 44s ago, saying: 'bd2: hi'. Jun 26 21:37:27 woglinde: because I want to create a new one. Jun 26 21:37:33 zecke: ok Jun 26 21:37:44 zecke oh hm Jun 26 21:37:52 but pb made some changes for it? Jun 26 21:38:11 mr_nice: we are a bit sparse with the source-code as it contains mq200 code, which is not compatible with the GPL :} Jun 26 21:38:14 my build machine somehow can't mtn pull Jun 26 21:38:36 zecke hm but mr_nice can take the kernel code Jun 26 21:38:43 woglinde: sure, pb_ made patches for it. pb_ is similiar to Chuck Norris Jun 26 21:38:49 ah, hm Jun 26 21:38:53 woglinde: right, that was the master plan Jun 26 21:39:12 zecke dont tell him that we take the bootloader code Jun 26 21:39:18 took Jun 26 21:40:02 mr_nice I would like to see uboot Jun 26 21:40:14 if it isnt to big Jun 26 21:40:40 mr_nice: A lot of people have the code, I might be able to find it as well but I would need go home someday... Jun 26 21:40:54 hm, I need to get into that bootloader stuff. I don't know how much work is needed to get uboot usable on simpad Jun 26 21:41:07 zecke: that would be nice Jun 26 21:41:28 zecke: it is not that important a week or to does not matter Jun 26 21:41:50 woglinde: slims ported redboot to the simpad Jun 26 21:42:12 not redboot Jun 26 21:42:23 is it possible that I can't pull because of an obsolete verison of monotone? Jun 26 21:42:43 oh nooo Jun 26 21:42:48 not redboot please Jun 26 21:43:02 dcordes: if your monotone version is < 0.26 yes Jun 26 21:43:07 woglinde: he can maybee help me to get into that uboot stuff Jun 26 21:43:36 * zecke should replace the macbook with a thinkpad Jun 26 21:43:50 zecke: EABI Jun 26 21:44:16 ljp: do you have a clue which apps might have trapped? Jun 26 21:44:19 for uclibc anyway, couldnt get oabi uclibc built Jun 26 21:44:22 zecke: the machine is running 0.32. I was able to update but pull does nothing but "connecting to monotone.openembedded.org" Jun 26 21:44:22 woglinde: what is the advantage of uboot over hh.org loader? Jun 26 21:44:31 trapped? Jun 26 21:44:42 hh loader isnt developed anymore? Jun 26 21:44:51 oh ya.. things in /bin and /sbin such Jun 26 21:44:55 dcordes: use a mirror Jun 26 21:45:00 but it still bot to command prompt Jun 26 21:45:39 ljp hm Jun 26 21:45:40 ljp: is warn+fixup enabled? Jun 26 21:45:41 dcordes: FWIW, I can't mtn pull either Jun 26 21:45:48 woglinde: hm, ok. does uboot support tftp and cf stuff? I allways wanted to have both possiblities Jun 26 21:45:51 here I compiled fine a month ago Jun 26 21:45:58 mr_nice yes Jun 26 21:46:04 woglinde: cool Jun 26 21:46:30 mr_nice: u-boot is not hh.org - this is good advantage itself. Jun 26 21:46:36 u-boot is used in the dbox2 too Jun 26 21:46:46 mr_nice: other then that - u-boot is popular and maintained Jun 26 21:47:18 mr_nice: can read kernel/initrd from mmc, cf, tftpd, nand, nor and few other places Jun 26 21:47:36 ok, I think have to have a look at uboot :) Jun 26 21:47:40 thx Jun 26 21:47:53 mr_nice: if you have working usb you can even update machine using DFU Jun 26 21:48:17 hrw not for now Jun 26 21:48:21 hrw: I have to look at the usb code for sa1100 Jun 26 21:48:45 mr_nice I think its now the same problem as under 2.4 Jun 26 21:48:56 with high nettrafic usb steps out Jun 26 21:49:10 woglinde: hm, only a ping works Jun 26 21:49:15 yes Jun 26 21:49:22 under 2.4 ssh worked Jun 26 21:49:22 woglinde: but I can not establish any other connection Jun 26 21:49:29 but scp has major problems Jun 26 21:49:32 or nfsroot Jun 26 21:49:35 over usb Jun 26 21:50:25 woglinde: hm, do you think it is hardware related? Jun 26 21:50:33 can bee Jun 26 21:50:36 dont know Jun 26 21:50:38 exactly Jun 26 21:50:50 there are some crud hacks Jun 26 21:50:50 woglinde: I think I annoy kopp-film as the music is too loud :} Jun 26 21:51:02 woglinde: hm, we have to figure it out. the switches stuff has a hardware bug Jun 26 21:51:06 in 2.4 kernel Jun 26 21:51:31 maybee the cpu is to slow to handle it Jun 26 21:51:31 woglinde: mrdata has written an work around Jun 26 21:51:49 but thats only guess from me Jun 26 21:52:06 woglinde: hm Jun 26 21:52:36 woglinde: I will test that mass storage driver Jun 26 21:56:36 woglinde: do you have any idea how I can test if the irda port is working? Jun 26 21:57:01 mr_nice: do you have a second irda device? Jun 26 21:57:09 mr_nice hm look how lirc works with tv's Jun 26 21:57:14 mr_nice: make one discoverable and use irdadump on the other Jun 26 21:57:15 than you know Jun 26 21:57:20 zecke: only a tv controll Jun 26 21:57:30 RP: working again Jun 26 21:57:34 under windows ce some guys programmed a remote control application Jun 26 21:57:49 woglinde: there is xrc for linux Jun 26 21:58:08 woglinde: but it is qt based Jun 26 21:58:35 zecke: I will try with lirc Jun 26 21:59:02 woglinde: a lot of people want to hava a tv controll for simpad on linux Jun 26 21:59:16 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r74ea5953... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-jlime-current.bb): linux-jlime-current.bb: fix SRC uri (remove ';') so it parses with bb 1.8 Jun 26 21:59:24 woglinde: but I think the range is not that good or? Jun 26 21:59:25 mr_nice shouldnt be a problem with lirc Jun 26 21:59:30 hm Jun 26 21:59:35 some said 5 meters Jun 26 21:59:47 woglinde: cool I will test it. thx Jun 26 22:00:03 only gui is problem I guess Jun 26 22:00:09 woglinde: yes Jun 26 22:00:13 there isn't a tv remote in oe is there? Jun 26 22:00:53 cu Jun 26 22:01:01 okay nite Jun 26 22:07:13 that was eerie - alone on a channel Jun 26 22:10:21 hi Jun 26 22:14:44 hey Jun 26 22:27:31 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7695b52b... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.17: Tweak qemuarm/qemux86 defconfigs (use wacom tablet), make linux-rp.inc sh complient, fix whitespace (from poky) Jun 26 22:28:48 CoreDump|home: hi Jun 26 22:29:24 CoreDump|home: Any objection if I remove all the _OVERIDE stuff in linux-rp.inc with some ?= ? Jun 26 22:29:35 RP: if you have a moment, do you apply any patches to rp-2.6.20 against hostap or ieee80211? (besides the one I gave you) Jun 26 22:29:50 RP: of course Jun 26 22:30:30 CoreDump|home: On what grounds? Jun 26 22:30:43 eh Jun 26 22:30:54 Zero_Chaos: I don't think so but the patches are listed in the .bb files Jun 26 22:30:55 s/of course/of course not Jun 26 22:30:59 ;) Jun 26 22:31:09 CoreDump|home: Ah, right :) Jun 26 22:31:44 RP: yeah, I didn't see anything that is why I asked. something is wrong with hostap when it builds (nothing to be concerned with, only it seems my patch doesn't function as it should) I will have a new one later. Jun 26 22:32:03 Zero_Chaos: ok Jun 26 22:32:06 03oe 07org.oe.dev * r228cf437... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Jun 26 22:32:06 merge of '74ea59538dca8f50c67da30a5d22c12d4be0a29f' Jun 26 22:32:06 and '7695b52b6fd3e3c9802eead22d39f996533773a4' Jun 26 23:28:33 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1ff8e9f2... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp.inc): linux-rp.inc: Use ?= instead of extra variables as overrides Jun 26 23:28:41 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r3cd18919... 10/ (12 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.20: Update defconfigs (from poky) Jun 26 23:28:45 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r19125b18... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.21: Add (from poky) Jun 26 23:33:56 mickeyl: hey :) Jun 26 23:34:14 hoffnungslos jet-lagged? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 27 02:59:56 2007