**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 30 02:59:57 2007 Jun 30 05:05:14 XorA|gone, thanks Jun 30 05:06:29 XorA|gone, though I think it should be somehow more unified, adding every pxa27x device is not good imo :-T Jun 30 06:39:01 meh, i should really look at getting OE emitting a mingw/msys distro again. everytime i look at the mingw stuff i'm amazed at what a messy pile it is Jun 30 06:40:02 hehe Jun 30 06:40:40 having used the greenhills shit in windows, i still feel a need to construct a windows development environment that isnt crippled by a worthless IDE Jun 30 06:40:41 heh Jun 30 07:44:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3061d5cf... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: readd big mount due to udev init scripts Jun 30 07:51:01 * * OE Bug 2580 has been created by gfellerpatrik(AT)gmx.net Jun 30 07:51:03 * * bison added to sanity.bbclass Jun 30 07:51:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2580 Jun 30 08:23:37 hi Jun 30 08:58:23 steliosk: ping Jun 30 09:30:00 * * OE Bug 2581 has been created by gfellerpatrik(AT)gmx.net Jun 30 09:30:02 * * unable to build virtual/kernel => patch Jun 30 09:30:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2581 Jun 30 09:43:20 koen: http://stream.ifixit.com/Parts/images/stream/images_large/25-21.jpg so apple is doing SoCs? Jun 30 09:44:54 zecke: they seem to pay enough to put some text on them :) Jun 30 09:59:10 03gfellerpatrik 07org.oe.dev * r227bfa74... 10/ (1 classes/sanity.bbclass): sanity: also check for bison, closes #2580 Jun 30 09:59:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r616d360f... 10/ (1 packages/lyx/lyx_1.4.4+1.5.0rc1.bb): lyx: also rdepend on python-textutils Jun 30 09:59:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra3e9494e... 10/ (1 packages/gtkmm/gtkmm.inc packages/gtkmm/gtkmm_2.10.10.bb): gtkmm: fix SRC_URI Jun 30 11:01:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd91963e0... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): proj4: stage native tools Jun 30 12:19:01 * * OE Bug 1570 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by Jun 30 12:19:03 * *  ncurses-native-5.4-r8 OE install fails to place libncurses.so. 5 correctly Jun 30 12:19:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1570 Jun 30 12:33:01 * * OE Bug 2582 has been created by hans.ullrich(AT)loop.de Jun 30 12:33:03 * * sd-card is not correctly recognized by kernel Jun 30 12:33:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2582 Jun 30 12:59:29 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r9681f404... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Added the defconfig to version 2.6.18, so that changes in the svn repo do not affect it. Jun 30 13:23:16 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ref27fbdc... 10/ (1 packages/images/slugos-image.bb): slugos-image: Create .tar.gz rootfs too, for machines which don't have enough room in flash for a rootfs but do have a hard disk Jun 30 13:58:02 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4ce90e32... 10/ (74 files in 7 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Removed obsolete kernel versions Jun 30 14:58:08 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rb3615d69... 10/ (1 packages/linux/compulab-pxa270_2.6.16.bb): compulab-pxa270_2.6.16: update md5 as compulab changed their download file Jun 30 15:02:03 hi Jun 30 15:07:59 mickeyl: could you please have a look at oebug 2566 when you get the chance? Jun 30 15:08:21 !oebug 2566 Jun 30 15:08:23 * * Bug 2566, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-25 19:25 Jun 30 15:08:24 * * : Build of ecore-native 0.9.9.038 fails with missing Evas_Engine_Software_X11.h Jun 30 15:08:25 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2566 Jun 30 15:08:57 I can clearly see the error. Don't use X11 ;) Jun 30 15:09:07 zecke: =) Jun 30 15:19:41 morning all Jun 30 15:22:30 hey RP Jun 30 15:23:45 * RP got annoyed with xtscal and ended up changing the xcalibrate extension :/ Jun 30 15:24:54 RP: rewrite xtscal in clutter :) Jun 30 15:25:34 koen: The lack of GL on most of our current hardware is just a minor issue Jun 30 15:31:32 morning Jun 30 15:31:45 RP: so how calibration works now? Jun 30 15:32:58 hrw: I added a screen -> mouse coordinate function to the xserver and exposed it through the xcalibrate extension which meant I could rip the broken xrandr code out of xtscal Jun 30 15:35:33 huhu Jun 30 15:35:50 RP: cool Jun 30 15:36:09 RP: does that mean that mardy's patch to tslib isn't needed anymore? Jun 30 15:36:19 (for X at least) Jun 30 15:37:03 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518 Jun 30 15:38:38 koen: No, that is an ongoing problem, this just solves various nasty rotation issues (xtscal is no longer a script pointing at xtscal.bin) Jun 30 15:39:12 I also ripped out the /dev/h6300_ts support as its a pet hate ;-) Jun 30 15:39:19 :) Jun 30 15:39:24 * koen leaves for work Jun 30 15:39:35 now? Jun 30 16:15:49 Good evening Jun 30 16:16:38 see you all Jun 30 16:18:35 RP: Hello Jun 30 16:18:40 hi sirfred Jun 30 16:19:11 RP: A lot of time since we last talked. :) Jun 30 16:19:23 sirfred: Yes, a while :/ Jun 30 16:19:40 RP: I'm trying to find some altcore/aticore sources from the work we made with mardy, time go, without luck, and his svn repository seems to be down. Jun 30 16:20:06 sirfred: Which sources specifically? Jun 30 16:20:27 RP: The altcore ones, better. I don't have any copy (harddisk disaster last year) Jun 30 16:20:40 RP: Do you have any local copy of the repositories? Jun 30 16:21:15 RP: I'm trying to get back into mpeg decoding adventure. :-) Jun 30 16:23:39 sirfred: I don't have Mardy's repository, only my own work that was based on :/ Jun 30 16:23:40 Moin Jun 30 16:23:55 sirfred: and some of your demo code Jun 30 16:24:10 hi henryk Jun 30 16:24:12 RP: Well, thanks anyway. I will try to contact mardy Jun 30 16:24:15 hi RP Jun 30 16:24:22 henryk, moin Jun 30 16:24:34 henryk: Thanks for the email, I did get it, I've just not had a chance to digest it yet Jun 30 16:25:21 sirfred: Sadly anything I have is about two years old :-( Jun 30 16:25:22 hi rp Jun 30 16:25:35 RP: Time passes fast. Jun 30 16:25:42 sirfred: indeed Jun 30 16:26:08 RP: yes, it's kind of complicated. I feel like I would want to completely rewrite the dependency calculation. Only I don't even understand the current code (and have not had a thourough look at it, yet) Jun 30 16:26:55 henryk: Which dependency calculation? in your patch or you mean bitbakes in general? Jun 30 16:27:31 RP: bitbake in general Jun 30 16:27:50 henryk: Well, 1.8 was an attempt at that :/ Jun 30 16:28:21 henryk: What's the reason for the rewrite? Jun 30 16:29:17 RP: to completely decouple "which recipe to build", "which version to build it in", "what are the versions of the resultant packages" Jun 30 16:29:54 RP: I've mailed mardy, I hope he's still working at nokia Jun 30 16:30:05 henryk: See providers.py, that basically has a function for the first two Jun 30 16:33:54 sirfred: I've not heard any different Jun 30 16:36:23 RP: btw, who's pretty "Angstrom" boot logo? Jun 30 16:38:54 Zero_Chaos: No idea, perhaps ask koen Jun 30 16:40:02 RP: well, I noticed it when I installed my newest image and I thought it was you that put it in :-) it's very sweet Jun 30 16:40:22 RP: btw, you know justinP broke linux-rp-2.6.21 right? Jun 30 16:41:12 Zero_Chaos: I suspect I broke it ;-) Jun 30 16:41:29 RP: not according to "mtn annotate" Jun 30 16:41:47 Zero_Chaos: What did he do to it? Jun 30 16:42:01 RP: 2555 I think, a patch was supposed to go into 2.6.20 but was added to 2.6.21 as well (without actually adding the patch) Jun 30 16:42:20 Zero_Chaos: copy the patch from linux-rp-2.6.20/ Jun 30 16:42:35 CoreDump|home: I already fixed mine, I am asking for it to be fixed for others. Jun 30 16:42:42 CoreDump|home: but thanks for thinking I'm inept Jun 30 16:44:58 you're welcome Jun 30 16:45:32 RP: also, ieee80211softmac and zd1211rw (which is not even in your .configs which means you REALLY need to run "make oldconfig") Jun 30 16:47:22 Zero_Chaos: The situtation with the defconfigs is better than it was Jun 30 16:47:56 RP: I did not mean to insult you sir, merely making a request. I think you are doing a great job honestly. Jun 30 16:50:15 Zero_Chaos: I've added the patch Jun 30 16:50:34 RP: the missing one? thanks Jun 30 16:51:08 RP: if you would be kind enough to close 2555, or I can do it. Jun 30 16:51:15 I think is was 2555... Jun 30 16:53:20 RP: Ok, I'm working through that code to understand how it works. Jun 30 16:53:48 (while I'm at it I might change a bit to make it more readable, I'll prepare patches later) Jun 30 16:55:00 * * OE Bug 2555 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rpurdie(AT)rpsys.net Jun 30 16:55:03 * *  patch to make kernel driver for Sharp CE-RH2 working Jun 30 16:55:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2555 Jun 30 16:55:22 henryk: ok, readability is something we need to improve :/ Jun 30 16:55:36 henryk: Its better than it was but still not good... Jun 30 17:01:08 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r802a93c7... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/h3800/defconfig): Jun 30 17:01:08 linux-handhelds-2.6: Fix defconfig for h3800. Jun 30 17:01:08 * Selected h3600 instead. Jun 30 17:01:13 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra806799c... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Jun 30 17:01:13 linux-handhelds-2.6: Add defconfigs for eteng500, rx1950, rx3000 machines. Jun 30 17:01:13 * All are s3c24xxx. Jun 30 17:01:17 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rc664de75... 10/ (1 conf/machine/rx3000.conf): rx3000.conf: Drop PREFERRED_VERSION for kernel from machine config. Jun 30 17:01:23 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r32182b16... 10/ (1 conf/machine/eteng500.conf conf/machine/rx1950.conf): eteng500, rx1950: Add bare configs for two more hh.org ports. Jun 30 17:01:28 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rcd140706... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h1910.conf): h1910.conf: Has only 16MB flash. Jun 30 17:01:32 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r13f416a3... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: Add defconfig for h1910, defconfigman r307. Jun 30 17:01:36 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * recd8452f... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.21/sharpsl-rc-r1.patch): linux-rp: Add missing patch Jun 30 17:04:34 03zecke123 * r837 10/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Jun 30 17:04:34 tags/bitbake-1.8.6: Tag BitBake-1.8.6 Jun 30 17:04:34 -Update ChangeLog Jun 30 17:04:34 -Update version(s) in the tags and in the branch Jun 30 17:05:55 RP: GPLv3 or not GPLv3 for BitBake? I don't think it really matters for BitBake Jun 30 17:10:48 zecke: I don't think it matters to much but I'd say not Jun 30 17:14:31 http://developer.berlios.de/ can anyone open that? Jun 30 17:14:53 Yes. Jun 30 17:15:05 do you get a db error? Jun 30 17:15:23 No - full page is rendered w/no visibile problems Jun 30 17:15:40 er, visible even Jun 30 17:15:47 http://developer.berlios.de/account/login.php does this work? Jun 30 17:16:15 Yep. I don't remember my account info, though. :) Jun 30 17:19:08 hehe Jun 30 17:19:59 unicorn Could Not Connect to Database:.... Jun 30 17:20:23 hmm, providers.py line 175. there's a if pe > 0: which doesn't work as expected, because pe is "0" (a string). It's supposed to suppress the "0:" when the package epoch is 0. I'll just drop it, I don't like this extra treatment, and it didn't work anyway Jun 30 17:20:30 very slow today, but I managed to remember by account, and got logged in. Jun 30 17:26:19 okay not bitbake release today, back to webkit Jun 30 17:26:21 ~lart berlios Jun 30 17:26:21 * ibot shoves a crumpet down berlios's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? Jun 30 17:29:50 zecke I saw that ipc-posix wasnt enable in the kernel Jun 30 17:29:59 maybee thats the root of the problems Jun 30 17:30:23 I am now trying Jun 30 17:30:31 a initramfs kernel Jun 30 17:30:47 so i can use nfs stuff Jun 30 17:30:53 and dont have to flash Jun 30 17:30:57 every time Jun 30 17:55:38 henryk_afc: That was dropped for backwards compatibility reasons Jun 30 18:04:08 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r716f98fc... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jun 30 18:04:08 linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop 2.6.21-hh6, add 2.6.21-hh10. Jun 30 18:04:08 * Changes since -hh9 are: Jun 30 18:04:08 1. Defconfiman static defconfigs for eteng500, rx3000, rx1950. Jun 30 18:04:08 2. Add jornada820 port. Jun 30 18:04:09 3. ghi270 port elaboration. Jun 30 18:04:11 4. Codebase cleanup from outdated files (soc-old.h, ipaq.h). Jun 30 18:23:45 RP: can I add an RDEP to a kernel module somehow? Jun 30 18:24:17 Zero_Chaos: RDEPENDS_kernel-module-xyz = "foobar" Jun 30 18:24:45 ~pong Laibsch Jun 30 18:24:46 Laibsch: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jun 30 18:25:13 hehe Jun 30 18:25:28 RP: where do I put that? Jun 30 18:25:35 RP: in the kernel build bb? Jun 30 18:25:42 ouch, panic in glasgow and it is not due KDE :} Jun 30 18:25:51 Zero_Chaos: In your kernel .bb file Jun 30 18:26:06 RP: it's your kernel .bb file ;-) but yeah, thanks Jun 30 18:26:19 RP: kick my ass if I don't have some updates for you by next weekend. Jun 30 18:26:19 * RP heard about that earlier. Looks like a new wave of terrorism in the uk :/ Jun 30 18:28:21 hi zecke, RP Jun 30 18:28:28 hi steliosk Jun 30 18:29:49 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r61d9290f... 10/ (1 packages/phalanx/phalanx_22.bb): phalanx: Fix SRC_URI and .debug QA error. Jun 30 18:29:53 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r0e37e6d3... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/imlib2_1.4.0.001.bb): imlib2: Fix .debug QA error Jun 30 18:32:39 anyone be a pal and fix the doubleheadedness? Jun 30 18:35:28 I wonder, has anyone written an ebuild->bb converter? Jun 30 18:39:03 RP: hmm, okay, Jun 30 18:40:50 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * rfd22e924... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): usb-gadget-mode: Add support for host-mode Jun 30 18:43:55 steliosk: Is the machine up? Jun 30 18:44:32 Laibsch : no and i an not in the office unfortunately :( Jun 30 18:47:50 OK Jun 30 18:52:35 Laibsch: is the opie-image-16mb image stable enough to flash onto a device? Jun 30 18:54:29 summatusemnetis yes it is Jun 30 18:57:45 woglinde: thanks Jun 30 18:58:20 and has anyone tried to build the xfce-image recently? I'm getting an error about ld: -lsM not found Jun 30 19:08:30 hi Jun 30 19:08:56 how can i make oe compile a non stripped debug version of a package please? Jun 30 19:09:25 rtfm? :) Jun 30 19:09:39 I think even local.conf.sample has a hint, the string starts with INHIBIT_ Jun 30 19:10:11 i looked over the chapters and didnt see anything pop out, thanks though :) Jun 30 19:10:50 timtimred: line 122 in local.conf.sample Jun 30 19:11:01 thx will go look Jun 30 19:11:49 ahh. Jun 30 19:11:52 :) Jun 30 19:21:46 is there a {FIRMWARE} or something that points to /lib/firmware? Jun 30 19:53:43 anyone has any idea how to enable telnet support instead of dropbear in minimal image ? Jun 30 19:55:21 steliosk: do we have telnet at all? Jun 30 19:55:23 steliosk: you really don't like security that much? Jun 30 19:55:50 * zecke remembers a mail of an opie users that complained every two month that there was no telnet client Jun 30 19:59:11 Zero_Chaos: check bitbake.conf, check other drivers requiring firmware. But introducing a variable for FIRMWARE sounds right Jun 30 20:00:52 zecke: there isn't one right now. I checked prism-firmware.bb Jun 30 20:01:02 zecke: as if we need more variable, but sure, feel free Jun 30 20:01:04 :-) Jun 30 20:01:20 zecke : There is the telnet client but not the daemon part Jun 30 20:01:54 Zero_Chaos : Well its going to be a read only fs on a CD so there is no place to save the ssh keys etc Jun 30 20:02:27 steliosk: and you are using OE to build a livecd? I've never heard of that before.... Jun 30 20:02:40 Zero_Chaos : :) Jun 30 20:03:34 Zero_Chaos : if you think it over, OE is much better suited for live cd than any of the other distros Jun 30 20:04:38 The fs is (mostly) read only and with a bit of tweaking it can work nicely with a cd as storage Jun 30 20:06:27 Next step is to make an OE+bitbake+sources live cd for people who want to try OE for the first time Jun 30 20:07:11 brb Jun 30 20:21:03 busybox has telnetd enabled but does not get installed Jun 30 20:24:28 time to go Jun 30 20:24:37 bye everyone Jun 30 20:26:10 Hallo. I want to work on OE fixes and I would be glad to get a write permission to OE mtn repository. What should I do for it? Jun 30 20:38:05 sbrabec_zaurus: flood the list with patches until people are too tired to apply them for you and grant write access instead :) Jun 30 20:39:21 ph5: I am submitting them to bugzilla - utx@penguin.cz Jun 30 20:40:42 hi, all! Jun 30 20:40:58 how to force _svn package to checkout latest revision? Jun 30 20:42:04 linux-hackndev-2.6_svn.bb checks out rev 1095, while current one in 1098, and it forces that revision even if I update svn dir myself (in source/svn) Jun 30 20:43:03 But I see more problems - it seems that build environment is incorrectly defined - many packages refer to .../koen/... - updatedb, starling, others fail to find their libraries (pidgin). Jun 30 20:57:11 slapin: OE always selects "today's" version, which is today 00:00h for cvs and svn. Jun 30 20:58:20 I usually wait a day or, if it matters, bitbake -cunpack, svn up in the workdir and then bitbake the rest. Jun 30 20:58:20 I don't know if there is a nice way to make bitbake always fetch the current version. Jun 30 21:03:03 pH5, slapin: This is something which is undergoing discussion. There is a patch on the bitbake list but it needs work and isn't merged yet Jun 30 21:04:10 RP: ah, thanks. Jun 30 21:04:23 * pH5 makes a note to subscribe to the bitbake list Jun 30 21:06:00 RP, pH5: thanks a lot! Jun 30 21:08:05 pH5, is it takes UTC time for SRCDATE? I have 1:07 there and it still gets -r {20070630} :( Jun 30 21:08:57 slapin: 00:00 GMT Jun 30 21:09:13 * lrg wonders why angstrom-*-image task_do_rootfs is changing the playback volume on his PC to 20%. He's had drunk too much Leffe to figure it out atm, maybe koen knows.... Jun 30 21:09:32 lrg: ?! :) Jun 30 21:09:43 RP: I know, it's weird Jun 30 21:09:48 lol, now that would be an interesting bug. Jun 30 21:10:07 I can only assume the alsa settings are being changed on the host Jun 30 21:10:18 lrg: Just give up and ask bitbake for a pizza while its at it ;-) Jun 30 21:10:21 instead of beingf saved on the target Jun 30 21:10:29 RP; heh Jun 30 21:11:06 lrg: It is possible some postinst is running on the host when it shouldn't Jun 30 21:11:46 RP: agreed, perhaps an alsactl store Jun 30 21:12:05 RP: restore Jun 30 21:12:22 alsa-state.postinst? Jun 30 21:12:25 lrg: alsa-state.bb looks bad Jun 30 21:12:52 RP: it's ok I know what to do :) Jun 30 21:13:10 CoreDump|home is to blame ;-) Jun 30 21:13:15 ~blame koen for breaking alsa-state.bb Jun 30 21:13:15 * ibot blames hrw|gone and perhaps koen for breaking alsa-state.bb and the end of life as we know it Jun 30 21:13:33 Its not koen's fault ;-) Jun 30 21:14:00 eh lol Jun 30 21:14:12 RP: I know ;-), he's coming to Edinburgh soon, and I'm probably due him a drink Jun 30 21:16:04 What did hrw|gone do to end up in ~blame? :) Jun 30 21:17:57 RP: maybe iBot has a grudge ! Jun 30 21:47:06 Good night Jun 30 22:22:20 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r871c28b2... 10/ (1 packages/alsa/alsa-state.bb): alsa: Do not run postinst on the build host Jun 30 23:15:53 03rpurdie * r838 10bitbake/ (ChangeLog lib/bb/fetch/svn.py): svn fetcher: Create common 'build svn command' function Jun 30 23:29:29 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rfd9a914d... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Add simplified FETCHCMD defitions for new versions of bitbake Jun 30 23:34:48 does anyone know what .bb builds the matchbox-applet-wireless Jun 30 23:37:14 summatusmentis: matchbox-panel Jun 30 23:37:33 CoreDump|home: thanks Jun 30 23:37:39 np Jul 01 00:03:56 'night all Jul 01 00:04:01 night Jul 01 02:01:20 what is the command to see what would be pushed? Jul 01 02:01:44 there is one? ;) Jul 01 02:02:02 where's the fun in that? Jul 01 02:02:04 yes, Jul 01 02:02:13 well, I live in Germany Jul 01 02:02:20 and your sense of adventure? Jul 01 02:02:43 well, I live in Germany. That is adventure enough Jul 01 02:02:54 true Jul 01 02:03:12 since all linux users are criminals in germany now... Jul 01 02:03:52 I have closed all firewalls, installed the bundestrojaner twice (as I have nothing to hide...) Jul 01 02:04:00 hehe Jul 01 02:04:21 with a bit of luck they will lose the master copy of it while doing a backup Jul 01 02:07:11 slapin: all: http://mirror.video.blip.tv/Elleo-LinuxOnATreo650996.ogg nice job! Jul 01 02:07:54 and we need to improve the boot time of OE :} **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 01 02:59:56 2007