**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 02 02:59:56 2007 Jul 02 03:41:25 NAbyss_: ping Jul 02 03:41:58 summatusmentis: pong Jul 02 03:42:35 NAbyss_: those command you gave me earlier(I think it was you), about rebuilding a package after I've mucked around in the source, don't seem to be holding Jul 02 03:42:48 hmm Jul 02 03:42:52 what's it doing? Jul 02 03:43:03 did you nuke the do_compile and do_package stamps as appropriate? Jul 02 03:43:57 I did, yes, but it seems to not want to keep the changes, I'll bitbake -ccompile matchbox-panel, after changing source, but then going back in after the compile is done, and my changes aren't there Jul 02 03:44:16 Is it executing a fetch/unpack step? Jul 02 03:44:59 do_fetch? Jul 02 03:45:40 and do_unpack? Jul 02 03:47:37 Ja Jul 02 03:47:55 NAbyss_: yeah, it is, that's causing this? Jul 02 03:48:05 I've just been nuking do_* Jul 02 03:48:18 Ah, that'd do it Jul 02 03:48:27 If you nuke the do_fetch, it'll grab the code again Jul 02 03:48:37 oh :-/ hrm Jul 02 03:48:37 Only nuke the steps after and including compile Jul 02 03:48:41 alright Jul 02 03:48:41 i.e. compile, package etc Jul 02 03:58:42 Where can I find more information about the ASSUME_PROVIDED portion of the local.conf file? I am not understanding that portion Jul 02 04:01:57 cybane: Look at the bitbake manual Jul 02 04:02:09 okay Jul 02 04:02:34 I am trying to piece this all together as quick as I can Jul 02 04:22:29 * summatusmentis gives up debugging for the night, sleeps Jul 02 04:22:31 goodnight all Jul 02 07:26:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb3bae44d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): bitbake: update recipe to 1.8.6 Jul 02 07:34:42 morning Jul 02 07:42:55 hey hrw Jul 02 07:44:26 hrw: the next commit is interesting for poky Jul 02 07:46:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r63c0f454... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 0xffff: update to 0.2 Jul 02 07:47:07 0xffff one? Jul 02 07:47:13 yes Jul 02 07:47:31 Poky does not contain 0xffff Jul 02 07:49:19 hey XorA Jul 02 07:49:34 NOTE: package qtopia-core-4.2.0-r1: task do_compile: started Jul 02 07:49:37 * koen taps foot Jul 02 07:49:54 morning Jul 02 07:50:26 koen: working on OpieII? Jul 02 07:53:34 XorA: no, plain qtopia-core Jul 02 07:56:32 you should try waiting for qtopia phone to compile.. Jul 02 07:58:07 qtopia compiles faster as webkit :) Jul 02 07:58:43 koen: qtopia-core is easy. try qtopia Jul 02 07:58:59 you will blame curse and lart TT more Jul 02 07:59:09 let me fix packaging for -core first Jul 02 07:59:56 I have a bb for qtopia that makes one big ass ipk Jul 02 08:00:18 ljp: by buildiing all-in-once? Jul 02 08:00:36 for now.. Jul 02 08:00:57 ljp: will TT ever release qtopia as pack of tarballs too? Jul 02 08:01:17 qtopia-core-XYZ.tar.bz2 qtopia-lib1-XYZ.tar.bz2 etc? Jul 02 08:01:34 we moved to one tarball to make it easy Jul 02 08:02:06 qtopia now builds x11+tools, qtopiacore, and qtopia Jul 02 08:02:08 but with it I have to unpack big tarball to build qtopia-datebook Jul 02 08:02:46 its possible we may put it in a git repository Jul 02 08:02:49 ljp: as OE provides many parts which are in qtopia tarball Jul 02 08:03:07 that wont work for qtopia, as qtopia has its own patches Jul 02 08:03:23 even to qmake/uic/moc? Jul 02 08:03:35 even to qt4 which is used by those qmake/uic/moc? Jul 02 08:04:06 * XorA wishes people would make sense in emails Jul 02 08:07:38 hmmm.. possibly Jul 02 08:08:53 actually, there might be a way, there are some hidden configure switches in 4.2 Jul 02 08:11:21 I'll work on that tomorrow Jul 02 08:11:57 but for core, qtopia opensource has its own patches Jul 02 08:20:12 is there no qt4 native? Jul 02 08:21:10 oh uicmoc Jul 02 08:23:58 but you have to download all that anyway to get qtopia, so why make more downloads? Jul 02 08:25:12 good morning Jul 02 08:25:56 * hrw -> shop Jul 02 08:54:50 good morning Jul 02 09:01:47 koen: you were looking for me yesterday? Jul 02 09:30:20 Why is access to viewmtn restricted? Jul 02 09:30:45 re Jul 02 09:32:52 hrw: wb Jul 02 09:37:33 ~curse usb in linux Jul 02 09:37:34 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, usb in linux ! Jul 02 09:37:53 or in other words: say goodbye to whole USB subsystem Jul 02 09:37:56 * XorA chuckles Jul 02 09:45:28 hrw: wazzup? Jul 02 09:46:47 XorA: I suspect that two ports in my desktop dies Jul 02 09:47:10 hrw: not exactly linux fault then Jul 02 09:47:38 XorA: but why it kills all ports? Jul 02 09:48:00 how many ports are on the same hub? Jul 02 09:50:17 cbrake_away: around? Jul 02 09:52:19 XorA: 2 ports per hub Jul 02 09:52:28 XorA: and all hubs died Jul 02 09:53:03 hrw: thats bad, I would have expected it to shut down hub by hub Jul 02 09:53:13 ~lart usb with hrw Jul 02 09:53:13 * ibot_ puts usb with hrw into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of usb with hrw's hair of Jul 02 10:04:21 looks like I will end with glueing 4 usb ports into 5.25" panel Jul 02 10:14:48 rwhitby: not that I know off Jul 02 10:14:56 rwhitby: maybe wrong nick completion Jul 02 10:24:01 * * OE Bug 2587 has been created by jayakumar.video(AT)gmail.com Jul 02 10:24:03 * * Recipe for xf86-video-amd, atlas, and olpc Jul 02 10:24:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2587 Jul 02 10:29:25 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r64e29cad... 10/ (1 packages/0xFFFF/0xffff-native_0.1.bb): 0xFFFF: It depends on libusb... Jul 02 10:29:37 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re856ed6c... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-x86-2.6.20/i486-defconfig): linux-x86: Enable wireless for i486, unbreaks madwifi build. Jul 02 10:29:44 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r78789da0... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-x86_2.6.20.bb): linux-x86: bump PR Jul 02 10:41:53 koen, I probably found the problem in qemu ... some mmap seems to put 64b result to 32b variable Jul 02 10:41:54 there: http://rafb.net/p/SFTnPa59.html Jul 02 10:42:05 I just need to fix it Jul 02 10:49:07 koen: np Jul 02 11:04:09 Marex: Sounds promising. This is qemu cvs? Jul 02 11:04:23 RP, snapshot from yesterday Jul 02 11:04:24 morning all btw Jul 02 11:04:33 hi RP Jul 02 11:04:39 hi RP ... btw the problem is mmap blows some 32b variable Jul 02 11:04:50 Im now trying to prove it and fix it Jul 02 11:05:27 it is around line 235 in linux-user/mmap.c Jul 02 11:05:36 Marex: If that is the case it will be a good find :) Jul 02 11:05:39 that mmap returns some 64b value Jul 02 11:05:50 but only in one case :S Jul 02 11:06:06 but that case blows it ... and it segfaults Jul 02 11:06:43 hi florian Jul 02 11:06:48 hi rp Jul 02 11:06:55 hi woglinde Jul 02 11:08:48 RP, see this http://www.pastebin.cz/show/1450 - the patch I added and this - http://www.pastebin.cz/show/1449 - the output Jul 02 11:09:32 note that mmap returns 32b values all the time and in the end ... 64b value asserted to 32b host_start and boom ... segfault Jul 02 11:10:00 if you strace it, it shows the segfault on that place Jul 02 11:10:43 huhu Jul 02 11:10:56 hi Jin^eLD Jul 02 11:11:06 hi everyone Jul 02 11:11:13 hey Jin^eLD Jul 02 11:11:59 Marex: Looks like you could be onto something Jul 02 11:12:16 is likewise already back from his holidays? Jul 02 11:13:17 Jin^eLD: if he is, he isn't on IRC Jul 02 11:13:53 ~seen likewise Jul 02 11:13:55 likewise was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 24d 15h 18m 56s ago, saying: 'Jin^eLD: you're in Vienna (during the week and weekends)?'. Jul 02 11:14:21 RP, ok, thanks for feedback ;-] Jul 02 11:21:07 Zta: to be honest we did not have much time lately Jul 02 11:21:09 oops wrong window Jul 02 11:44:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r768c0eff... 10/ (1 classes/qmake-base.bbclass): qmake-base.bbclass: don't strip binaries, that breaks debug builds, let OE take care of it Jul 02 11:44:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6c943c0f... 10/ (1 packages/qte/qtopia-core_4.2.0.bb): qtopia-core: fix packaging Jul 02 11:44:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r627199fb... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/angstrom-console-image.bb): angstrom-console-image: install task-base-extended Jul 02 11:44:41 hey vivijim Jul 02 11:45:13 hi koen Jul 02 11:50:18 good morning Jul 02 11:50:22 hey chris144 Jul 02 11:50:28 hi koen Jul 02 11:50:46 RP: by the looks of it you forgot to checkin the 0.7.2 apt patch dir in poky Jul 02 11:53:24 koen: I built apt 0.7.2 today Jul 02 11:53:59 NOTE: package apt-0.7.2-r2: task do_patch: completed Jul 02 11:54:17 for poky eabi? Jul 02 11:54:27 >>> ladies and gentleman ... qemu generated first glibc locale on my amd64 Jul 02 11:54:39 koen: yes Jul 02 11:55:28 Marex: woowoo Jul 02 11:55:36 hrw: btw, the OE snapshot script updates all dbs (0.29, 0.30, 0.32, 0.35) now each morning Jul 02 11:55:56 great Jul 02 11:57:10 ~lart export OE_QMAKE_STRIP="${STRIP}" Jul 02 11:57:10 * ibot_ send killer squirrels to attack export OE_QMAKE_STRIP="${STRIP}" Jul 02 11:59:02 * * OE Bug 2588 has been created by paul-openzaurus(AT)mansfield.co.uk Jul 02 11:59:04 * * xmonobut doesn't affect mouse click on angstrom Jul 02 11:59:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2588 Jul 02 12:00:03 NOTE: package apt-0.7.2-r2: task do_rebuild: completed Jul 02 12:00:26 tmp/work/armv5te-poky-linux-gnueabi/apt-0.7.2-r2/install/apt/usr/bin/apt-get: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Jul 02 12:01:24 XorA, test 2 Jul 02 12:01:35 XorA, I dunno if it is correct fix though Jul 02 12:04:14 Marex: well even if its not, when you log the bug on their bugtracker with the workaround at least people who what they are looking at Jul 02 12:05:50 ~lart linux-wlan-ng Jul 02 12:05:50 * ibot_ stabs linux-wlan-ng Jul 02 12:07:53 XorA, sure :] Im fighting with OE again now, I need to get the same version from cvs as my snapshot is Jul 02 12:08:25 Marex: pair of Doc Martens and a few swift kicks in OE's stones will fix it Jul 02 12:08:59 ;-) Jul 02 12:15:25 so now it is official - OpenMoko wants to hire OE developer Jul 02 12:16:00 I wonder if the position is location independent or if you had to move to .tw or something Jul 02 12:16:25 probably remote with some flying required Jul 02 12:16:34 more infos soon will be posted Jul 02 12:18:21 .tw has some very nice food :> Jul 02 12:18:44 time to push mickeyl to make openmoko.conf do 'require angstrom' Jul 02 12:19:45 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc26b0167... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/zaurus-2.6.conf): tosa: added wifi to MACHINE_FEATURES Jul 02 12:19:59 * koen is getting the + oefatal 'oe_libinstall: unable to locate shared library' with apt(native) again Jul 02 12:20:19 isn't that the stuff that I ran into? Jul 02 12:22:04 Jin^eLD: could be, I'm upgrading apt to 0.7.2 Jul 02 12:23:09 * hrw boots collie Jul 02 12:23:29 I think I did attach my comments/findings on that to the relevant bug report Jul 02 12:23:54 XorA, Im starting firefox and pointing it to OE bugtracker to report a boog :B Jul 02 12:25:11 ~blame koen Jul 02 12:25:12 * ibot_ blames koen (and Canada) for all the evil in the world Jul 02 12:27:04 NOTE: package apt-0.7.2: completed Jul 02 12:27:20 hrw: consider using insane.bbclass localy for poky builds Jul 02 12:28:31 koen: my poky builds use insane Jul 02 12:28:50 apt had some .debug files in ${PN} over here Jul 02 12:29:04 not every build anyway Jul 02 12:33:01 ~oebug 2589 Jul 02 12:33:42 ~wake up, dead bo[dt]y ;-) Jul 02 12:33:54 * ibot_ throws a barrel-full of ice water on up, dead bo[dt]y ;-) and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" Jul 02 12:34:01 * * OE Bug 2589 has been created by marek.vasut(AT)gmail.com Jul 02 12:34:03 * * qemu-native sigsegvs on amd64 while generating glibc locales Jul 02 12:34:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2589 Jul 02 12:34:08 koen, RP, hrw, XorA please see this http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2589 Jul 02 12:34:10 thank you Jul 02 12:34:21 ok Jul 02 12:34:46 Marex: seeing, going to test on amd64 in a few mins Jul 02 12:34:53 XorA, ok :] Jul 02 12:35:01 XorA, thanks :] Jul 02 12:35:16 Marex: next time attach 'mtn diff' not archive Jul 02 12:36:07 hrw, those are all new files, mtn diff would make it too chaotic imho ... but ok Jul 02 12:36:39 ~seen thesing Jul 02 12:37:25 Marex: read the mtn manual and stop complaining Jul 02 12:40:10 koen, yes, my lord :-X Jul 02 12:40:42 Marex: and I propose to look into Poky from time to time - we added qemu 0.9.0 snapshot recently Jul 02 12:41:12 hrw, ok Jul 02 12:44:10 thesing was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 15h 33m 1s ago, saying: 'ah ok. thanks.'. Jul 02 12:53:07 XorA, 8 locales generated! :b Jul 02 12:55:59 Yay!!!! I've got X Jul 02 12:56:17 it finally seems to be working Jul 02 12:59:28 djay-il: what was the problem? Jul 02 13:02:07 Marex: my amd64 is old and quite slow by modern standards, Im still building qemu Jul 02 13:02:41 I am building glibc now Jul 02 13:02:42 XorA|meeting, good thing for meeting - bullshitbingo (bullshitbingo.net) ;-) Jul 02 13:03:07 XorA|meeting, btw you might have added --target-list=something to .bb file Jul 02 13:03:13 so you dont have to build that all Jul 02 13:04:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd8e93653... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): curl: update to 7.16.2 Jul 02 13:04:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1ca50736... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): apt: update to 0.7.2, fix debug packaging Jul 02 13:18:47 cbrake: frame buffer is seems to be fixed on 8bpp. I ran Xserver with -screen ...x8 and it worked Jul 02 13:19:33 now, when gpe-dm starts, I see graphics is sorta garbled...I wonder how can I fix it... Jul 02 13:20:44 Marex: NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r4: task do_install: started Jul 02 13:21:26 hrw, cool :) Jul 02 13:21:44 hrw, locale uz_UZ Jul 02 13:29:24 glibc-binary-localedata-en-gb_2.5-r4_armv5te.ipk built Jul 02 13:29:30 Cwiiis_: hey Jul 02 13:29:40 Hey zecke_ Jul 02 13:30:10 Cwiiis_: one GtkHTML question. Does it support static backgrounds? Jul 02 13:30:40 zecke_: I don't know about gtkhtml, gtkhtml2 probably doesn't - I can't remember off-hand, but I'd doubt it Jul 02 13:33:47 hrw, nice :) Jul 02 13:35:59 Marex: check poky changeset as it was working with poky qemu-native in last days too Jul 02 13:36:33 hrw, oh ok ... Jul 02 13:37:56 Cwiiis: okay, thanks Jul 02 13:38:45 zecke_: It'd probably be quite easy to hack it in to gtkhtml2 though Jul 02 13:39:17 Cwiiis: well, I'm facing a issue with GtkLayout in regard to gdk_window_move and I had hoped someone else solved it for me Jul 02 13:41:19 zecke_: What's the issue? Jul 02 13:42:26 Cwiiis: well, we have a static background and when the adjustments changes GtkLayout is calling gdk_window_move. Now with the static background the original content gets moved. Any attempt to invalidate it failed so far Jul 02 13:43:08 Cwiiis: I have tried gdk_window_invalidate_rect, I tried to set the double buffer to zero, added code to process the events (don't remember the name of this function) Jul 02 13:43:45 zecke_: I'm not sure what you mean... If you file a bug with instructions to reproduce and such, I'll see if I can take a look on the weekend though (if you don't already solve it :)) Jul 02 13:45:00 well, it is not GtkHTML(xyz) related, but as my code and GtkHTML use a GtkLayout we will have the same issue with regard to static background. But as GtkHTML doesn't do static backgrounds you don't have this issue Jul 02 13:46:49 morning Jul 02 13:49:00 zecke_: You're writing an HTML rendering engine? Jul 02 13:49:08 no, using WebKit Jul 02 13:55:01 * * OE Bug 2590 has been created by xyzaid(AT)yahoo.fr Jul 02 13:55:03 * * e17 : suspend doesn't work Jul 02 13:55:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2590 Jul 02 13:55:43 gotta love users... Jul 02 13:55:47 Product kernel... Jul 02 13:56:01 koen: teach your users to set a distribution :) Jul 02 14:08:13 Good afternoon Jul 02 14:12:02 Hi all. Trying to build angstrom for collie, running into problem while building linux-rp, it fails applying patches/mtd-sharp-flash-hack-r0.patch. Does this ring any bells for anyone or should I start doing some digging? Jul 02 14:12:23 Didn't find anything via google or the oe bugzilla. Jul 02 14:15:30 koen: "angstrom: delete oabi config, as it has no use anymore" well how to get OABI? Jul 02 14:15:53 koen: an example for a incomplete commit message :) Jul 02 14:21:07 hi Jul 02 14:21:29 Hi! Jul 02 14:22:54 agittins: use 2.6.20 for collie Jul 02 14:23:34 Thanks hrw. I'm a doughy noobie bitbaker.... is there local.conf magic to do that? Jul 02 14:24:28 ahh.. MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION ? Jul 02 14:25:33 PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-rp = "2.6.20" Jul 02 14:26:21 thanks hrw - trying build again now. Jul 02 14:35:15 zecke_: OABI is now handled automagically for machines that need it Jul 02 14:36:12 koen: yeah, I found that I can set ARM_ABI. -legacy.conf is broken. And such things should go to notes :) Jul 02 14:36:33 hi koen zecke_ Jul 02 14:40:07 hey chouimat Jul 02 14:43:25 koen: Are we still on target to have Angstrom release mid-July? Jul 02 14:45:00 not without machine mentor showing some initiative by building, testing & uploading images Jul 02 14:49:45 koen: where should I upload my shark stuff to? Jul 02 14:50:07 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ Jul 02 14:51:08 rsync -az foo angstrom@linuxtogo.org:~/website/unstable/images/// Jul 02 14:52:11 zecke_: after you send me you sshv2 pubkey :) Jul 02 14:56:11 koen: sent my ssh key, though I still can't get why you (your script) can't build them, and mentors just test, etc. them Jul 02 14:57:01 psokolovsky: the "get hit by a bus" factor Jul 02 14:57:42 psokolovsky: your rsa key is already there, do you want me to add the dsa key as well? Jul 02 14:58:19 koen: hm, dunno. this is the key I use. IIRC, I sent only mtn key before. So, please add it, yes. Jul 02 14:59:20 psokolovsky: key added Jul 02 14:59:30 koen: is angstrom server has any space constraints? Jul 02 14:59:34 koen: thanks! Jul 02 15:01:07 psokolovsky: it doesn't really have space constraints Jul 02 15:02:07 koen: Did you see my LiveRamdisk stuff? Would it be ok to host them too? Jul 02 15:02:49 I saw it and it would be ok to host them Jul 02 15:03:18 psokolovsky: keeping all stuff in one place (e.g angstrom-distribution.org) is nice for users and google juice Jul 02 15:04:03 koen: Ok, the caveat: it would eat pretty much of my bandwidth to upload almost the same stuff twice. At the same time, it's easy to generate LR inplace from image. So, would it be possible to run something on the server? Jul 02 15:04:36 koen: yes, I for sure agree, especially that I don't have good place for hosting them anyway ;-) Jul 02 15:05:00 it's ok to run stuff on the server, just don't do OE builds on it :) Jul 02 15:05:46 koen: ok, thanks ;-) Jul 02 15:08:09 bye Jul 02 15:19:28 polyonymous: I'm going to try few steps on making opie go /usr. please let me know if you have something to say on that (besides what's in ticket of course) Jul 02 15:20:58 psokolovsky: qtopia-core 4 in OE seems to adhere to /usr (or rather $prefix) in OE Jul 02 15:22:44 koen: nice, I want to make this final step for opie1 compliance too. Jul 02 15:23:03 Oh, and btw, anyone got iphone yet, lol? ;-D Jul 02 15:24:42 psokolovsky: we could ask FIC to use more child labor, then it is like a iPhone (manufacturing wise) Jul 02 15:26:16 zecke_: er, I personally don't care about iphone at all, except as a marketing phenomenon ;-) Jul 02 15:26:34 iphone: It might have good marketing.. but it's still gen1 apple Jul 02 15:27:31 * koen wonders if some benefactor is going to donate a dozen iphones to OE Jul 02 15:27:57 brrr... apple Jul 02 15:28:30 koen: sim locked ones? Jul 02 15:29:02 zecke_: simlock doesn't really matter when running linux on it :) Jul 02 15:29:39 * cbrake wonders if clutter will enabled iPhone like UIs? Jul 02 15:29:58 cbrake: I hope so Jul 02 15:30:12 the capacitive touch screen looks like a good thing Jul 02 15:30:21 cbrake: now all we need is working (open source) drivers for all the embedded 3d chips Jul 02 15:35:50 2D accell is just as important ;) Jul 02 15:41:07 Building anstrom for collie, I am getting an error during build of glibc-2.5-r6: while generating locale en_US (UTF-8), got "localedef returned an error". Previously I got the same error at generating locale es_NI (UTF-8), so added GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_US.UTF-8" in local.conf, but that just seemed to postpone the inevitable. Any ideas? Jul 02 15:42:09 bdash: Jul 02 15:44:42 zecke_: ECHANNEL Jul 02 15:45:24 oooooh someone built the openmoko stuff for the treo 650 :) Jul 02 15:45:55 hmmm, running the command given in the output gives a segfault. Jul 02 15:47:02 agittins: fedora or 64bit ? Jul 02 15:47:08 fedora, 32bit Jul 02 15:47:22 agittins: iirc psokolovsky has a fix for that Jul 02 15:47:26 (deliberately chose not to build on my f7 x86_64 box) Jul 02 15:48:02 agittins: http://pfalcon-oe.blogspot.com/2007/06/running-user-qemu-emulation-on-fedora.html Jul 02 15:49:25 aha! excellent, thanks for digging that up - would have taken me two lifetimes to work that one out! ;-) Jul 02 15:49:39 and thanks to psokolovsky for nutting it all out too. Jul 02 15:50:16 being an fc6 box I'll try latest kernel then try building a new one if that doesn' work out. Jul 02 16:08:33 hi guys, how do I set the default framebuffer bpp? Jul 02 16:11:20 djay-il: in the kernel or using fbset Jul 02 16:12:13 pH5: hey Jul 02 16:18:20 koen: I'm trying to use fbset but it doesn't seem to sustain Jul 02 16:19:23 ho zecke_ Jul 02 16:19:48 pH5: One question. What does "LAK" mean in regard to lectures at physik.fu-berlin.de? Jul 02 16:20:07 pH5: I'm supposed to go to Theoretische Physik LAK I-III but I can't find any sign of them in the KVV :} Jul 02 16:20:38 zecke_: never heard of it. "für lehramtskandidaten" perhaps? Jul 02 16:20:46 koen: well, I'll have to figure it out tomorrow. thanks Jul 02 16:21:08 probably Jul 02 16:23:18 * koen is in favour of only showing time limited sports on tv Jul 02 16:23:36 this stupid tennis is starting to interfere too much Jul 02 16:24:01 ? Jul 02 16:24:24 rtl is broadcasting wimbledon over here Jul 02 16:24:51 and they cancel each program in the 2 hours after it because the tennis games drag on for hours Jul 02 16:26:58 pH5: thanks, it is not in the normal kvv :} Jul 02 16:27:43 zecke_: who should I target with the voodoo doll to move your presentation? Jul 02 16:28:08 zecke_: yeah, I just noticed. I had to read http://www.fu-berlin.de/studium/docs/texte/physik-ba-11.pdf to see that there are really completely separate lectures for teacher candidates. where are they held? Jul 02 17:08:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r130c4c25... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1-legacy.conf): angstrom legacy: fix include Jul 02 17:36:30 * kergoth`work yawns Jul 02 17:36:42 hi kergoth`work Jul 02 17:37:06 hey chouimat Jul 02 17:37:09 hows it goin? Jul 02 17:37:38 kergoth`work: just the guy I wanted to see Jul 02 17:37:50 kergoth`work: remember that vi plugin you had that was quilt aware? Jul 02 17:37:58 where doth that live? Jul 02 17:38:01 kergoth`work: currently trying to schedule 5 jobs interviews in 3 days ... so I guess it's going ok, well I think :) Jul 02 17:38:27 chouimat: nice, good luck with them :) Jul 02 17:39:04 CosmicPenguin: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1656 Jul 02 17:39:06 kergoth`work: thanks ... I just need to minimized the transit time ... they are all around ottawa :( Jul 02 17:39:18 i stil dont use that vim script much, should start Jul 02 17:39:44 thanks Jul 02 17:39:57 I haven't needed it much for the kernel - since i use stgit and all that Jul 02 17:40:07 but LinuxBIOS is svn based, and so quilt is my only path to sanity Jul 02 17:42:00 stgit nice? i'm trying to get up to speed with git now that i'm at mv Jul 02 17:42:17 I recommend it Jul 02 17:42:55 I've never used guilt, though - so I can't compare and contrast Jul 02 17:43:02 hmmmm Jul 02 17:43:08 but stgit has gotten me out of many tough jams Jul 02 17:43:25 i need to set up some test repositories, try out various workflows, jot down useful git commands / scripts for each.. Jul 02 18:10:42 hm mirror for monotone.openembedded.org? Jul 02 18:40:45 nite guys Jul 02 18:56:53 who or what is looking for site/files/device_table-mymachine.txt ? Jul 02 18:57:07 somehow mine is not taken and I wonder where I screwed up Jul 02 18:57:26 re Jul 02 19:00:32 re florian Jul 02 19:03:26 hmm, or am I missing something? how do I tell OE to use my device table file? Jul 02 19:04:13 psokolovsky, I was about to tackle it as well, but then I thought I'd wait a bit to see how hard would it be to coordinate it with upstream. Jul 02 19:04:26 oh ok forget it :) IMAGE_DEVICE_TABLES Jul 02 19:04:43 machine confs do the trick :> Jul 02 19:08:31 is someone here who uses uclibc and get bluez-utils compiled? Jul 02 19:20:30 woglinde: you know the answer Jul 02 19:21:34 yes Jul 02 19:21:37 only me Jul 02 19:25:29 I'm off home, I'll drop by later Jul 02 19:25:32 oops wrong window Jul 02 19:26:02 woglinde: well, you saw it failed for me as well Jul 02 19:26:24 koen: your ARM_ABI assignment should be an immediate assignment? Jul 02 19:27:01 der keine hat fieber Jul 02 19:27:02 wieder Jul 02 19:30:59 je ne comprend pas Jul 02 19:35:00 mwester sorry Jul 02 19:35:07 wrong channel Jul 02 19:35:21 :-) Jul 02 19:35:34 means my sun has fever again Jul 02 19:35:38 son Jul 02 19:36:01 is your sun working for MS as well? Jul 02 19:47:12 koen: your whole ARM_ABI stuff is broken Jul 02 19:47:21 arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-gnueab Jul 02 19:47:33 zecke hm uh Jul 02 19:56:14 zecke: could be, I don't really use it Jul 02 19:56:24 zecke: it worked for me when I tested it Jul 02 19:56:31 koen: :) Jul 02 19:56:38 koen: will poke it a bit Jul 02 19:56:42 zecke: coordinate with rolf after he gets back Jul 02 20:00:51 zecke: thanks Jul 02 20:01:19 gcc-cross-kernel 3.4.4 is working... hmm Jul 02 20:04:23 my fault :) Jul 02 20:04:31 you need to add a new machine to two places :} Jul 02 20:05:45 3 places actually if you also want uclibc Jul 02 20:09:01 koen: that is bad Jul 02 20:09:18 koen: ARM_OABI_MACHINES = "foo, abc, def, fgh" Jul 02 20:09:56 koen: $@{if getVar(TARGET_MACHINE) in getVar('ARM_OABI_MACHINES').split(',')} would be better :) Jul 02 20:11:39 koen: would you be interested in a patch doing that? Jul 02 20:11:48 for those of us that are not really great at gcc flags, anyone know what -std=gnu89 means? Jul 02 20:12:34 man gcc :) Jul 02 20:12:38 zecke: I'm certainly interested Jul 02 20:12:50 it allows certain language features not in ansic <= 89 Jul 02 20:13:26 zecke: I know man gcc, but most of that means very little to me. Generalize, good thing or bad thing? Jul 02 20:14:00 Zero_Chaos: well, it depends. It could mean having code that doesn't work on non-gnu CC Jul 02 20:14:11 Zero_Chaos: but as GNU GCC is available everywhere I wouldn't care Jul 02 20:17:00 zecke: good, thanks. I have an odd (read shitty) driver that I'm compiling and I wasn't clear on that. Jul 02 20:33:41 * koen should put http://idea.opensuse.org/content/ideas/easy-file-sharing in OE Jul 02 20:33:42 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rc5ab8682... 10/ (1 conf/machine/dm7025.conf): conf/machine/dm7025.conf: fix mtdblock2 fstab entry Jul 02 20:33:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re8eeff37... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules: update drivers for 500+,600pvr Jul 02 20:33:54 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re8bb8f09... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm500plus,600pvr}: update to r5 patch Jul 02 20:35:29 koen: that's a nice idea... i have been searching for something like this Jul 02 20:52:48 koen: I will be forever indebted to you if that get's into OE Jul 02 20:53:39 summatusmentis: sadly it is coded in c# Jul 02 20:53:48 and mono is still pretty flakey on arm Jul 02 20:54:13 :-/ hrm... relativey difficult to port to a better language huh? Jul 02 20:54:41 probably not, but who has the time? Jul 02 20:54:58 hrm... If I had any form of coding skill, I have the time Jul 02 20:55:09 but I can't even fix mb-applet-wireless, so.. Jul 02 20:56:20 you can't have everything! :) Jul 02 20:56:33 :-) Jul 02 20:56:36 http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/research/lego.NET/ Jul 02 20:56:56 can qtopiacore coexist with qt4-x11 I wonder? Jul 02 21:10:08 polyonymous: I wondered the same Jul 02 21:10:25 polyonymous: I suspect they can with the proper config options Jul 02 21:10:45 koen, like prefixing libs names? Jul 02 21:10:58 no, configure options Jul 02 21:11:00 I mean you can easily have separate dirs in staging, but at runtime.. Jul 02 21:11:05 I hope the magic is in libqtcore.so Jul 02 21:11:22 but don't they have the same .so-s? Jul 02 21:11:27 (but still, I'd rather have qt4-x11) Jul 02 21:11:39 it looks like they have the same .so names :( Jul 02 21:11:46 sucks. Jul 02 21:11:52 Speaking of .so names and coexistance. Jul 02 21:12:05 Do you have any idea about how to proceed with pidgin issue? Jul 02 21:12:22 The solution may actually apply to qtopia as well.. Jul 02 21:12:56 what's the pidgin issue? Jul 02 21:12:58 rpath? Jul 02 21:13:01 yup Jul 02 21:13:06 qtopia core and qtopia x11 have to live in different directories Jul 02 21:13:30 maybe it's possible to move libs to /usr/lib/, but it doesn't really sound good to me... Jul 02 21:13:57 ljp, yup, but with our rpath aversion it wouldn't be easy to run them both... Jul 02 21:14:04 polyonymous: patch the libtool that's copied into the pidgin dir with a reverse rpath patch Jul 02 21:14:24 qt hardcodes the installation path Jul 02 21:14:45 koen, hmm... That's possible, but it would be nice to have more general solution... Jul 02 21:14:56 ljp, but think of ls Jul 02 21:14:57 ld Jul 02 21:15:15 ljp: you can still pass -prefix to Qt Jul 02 21:15:47 zecke, I think he meant hardcoding it in binaries? Jul 02 21:16:09 but, anyway, what bothers me is dynamic linking. Jul 02 21:16:23 yes, that hardcodes the install directory into libQtCore Jul 02 21:16:56 koen, how about at least having the libtool patch controlled via env? Jul 02 21:17:26 polyonymous: sounds like a good idea Jul 02 21:17:29 polyonymous: well, all Gtk+ apps hardcode the path :) Jul 02 21:17:55 hmmm Jul 02 21:18:08 fixing mono or importing llvm-gcc4.2 Jul 02 21:19:39 porting mono to a fixed llvm Jul 02 21:19:45 and fixing mono due this Jul 02 21:19:50 llvm! Jul 02 21:26:29 llvm it is Jul 02 21:26:36 I'll pester lauro tomorrow Jul 02 21:27:16 zecke: http://www.advogato.org/person/cinamod/diary.html?start=150 Jul 02 21:27:49 koen: yes? Jul 02 21:27:57 icu Jul 02 22:12:02 ~change 1 eur to pln Jul 02 22:12:04 bye Jul 02 23:27:00 * * OE Bug 2591 has been created by andrew.james.barr(AT)gmail.com Jul 02 23:27:02 * * patches needed to compile qemu-native on ppc Jul 02 23:27:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2591 Jul 02 23:29:25 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * rb783e6b6... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Jul 02 23:29:25 SlugOS init files: fixed network boot code for dsmg600 and added delay to ifup Jul 02 23:29:25 (fix dhcp timeout before link negotiation complete) for network boot. Added Jul 02 23:29:25 kexec boot script (no turnup support yet, manual only). Jul 02 23:29:31 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r005e8450... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-slugos.bb): task-slugos: add wireless-tools to the base firmware image Jul 02 23:38:07 Good grief! CIA-3 is lagging "just a bit", no? Jul 02 23:38:21 heh, how long ago did those go in? Jul 02 23:38:54 I've done a lot today, so I might be confused - but at least 4 hours. Jul 02 23:39:55 Ah - but I commit to the nslu2-linux repo, so maybe the problem is that it's having trouble syncing with the oe repo. Jul 03 00:31:14 hmm, i need to snatch up a current oe tree and try a build **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 03 02:59:57 2007