**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 05 02:59:56 2007 Jul 05 05:10:55 does ALLOW_EMPTY always work in the package class? I need to build, but not install things into the image. Jul 05 05:11:14 * T0mW cannot read python Jul 05 05:27:00 hello Jul 05 05:28:33 I have a situation... I dunno how to debug or get more info about it. Jul 05 05:35:21 step2bak your problem is with oe? Jul 05 05:37:04 While loading x11 last what I got "load module wsXXXX" - Toushsreen driver Jul 05 05:37:53 and nothing... silence Jul 05 05:39:17 does not sound like a bug in the oe build system right. what device are you using? Jul 05 05:40:31 sorry! now I get continue of loading driver.... Jul 05 05:41:05 * step2back go to maintainer Jul 05 05:42:33 koen, big thanks for help in palmld.conf Jul 05 05:47:37 koen|train, ping Jul 05 05:49:49 pong Jul 05 05:56:05 later all Jul 05 06:19:09 koen, how can I get maintainer of palmld Jul 05 06:19:09 get status Jul 05 06:20:39 I'm online... Jul 05 06:32:21 morning Jul 05 07:03:43 morning Jul 05 07:05:45 hmm, something has changed between yesterday morning and now Jul 05 07:06:44 bitbake wants to rebuild almost everything since I pulled/updated Jul 05 07:07:14 ah well, a computer has got to have something to do ;-) Jul 05 07:09:57 ~seen thesing Jul 05 07:09:59 thesing was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 12h 40m 5s ago, saying: 'psokolovsky: whats the real purpose of *-16mb?'. Jul 05 07:50:36 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3a2f4ce1... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.21.bb): linux-rp: update locomokyeb_suspendkey patch to fix build for collie Jul 05 08:16:34 morning Jul 05 08:24:16 did someone shut down all the mailing lists last night, I have a surprising lack of email from oe-dev Jul 05 08:26:42 XorA: I got few from oesf instead Jul 05 08:32:03 morning Jul 05 09:07:47 Hi! Jul 05 09:08:44 There seems to be problem with OE MLs - no mail since morning of yesterday (including commit list) Jul 05 09:09:30 neither in archives... Jul 05 09:12:08 psokolovsky: just moaned about that Jul 05 09:12:20 must be koen leaving present to us :-) Jul 05 09:12:30 florian: can you kick the mailing lists? Jul 05 09:16:58 ah, glad to know it's confirmed and sorry for repeating it ;-) Jul 05 09:22:55 re Jul 05 09:34:17 ~blame koen|train Jul 05 09:34:18 * ibot_ blames koen|train (and Canada) for all the evil in the world Jul 05 09:36:16 good morning Jul 05 09:39:17 XorA, psokolovsky: I just kicked mailman a little bit... Jul 05 09:47:00 * * OE Bug 2597 has been created by xyzaid(AT)yahoo.fr Jul 05 09:47:02 * * gsteamer instead of gstreamer in gstreamer--feed.conf Jul 05 09:47:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597 Jul 05 09:49:00 * * OE Bug 2598 has been created by  Jul 05 09:49:02 * * angstrom simpad gpe: metabug supsend with power button does not work Jul 05 09:49:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2598 Jul 05 09:49:12 * * OE Bug 2599 has been created by  Jul 05 09:49:14 * * simpad angstrom gpe: keylaunch does not start because of not defined keysyms Jul 05 09:49:16 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 Jul 05 09:49:24 * * OE Bug 2600 has been created by  Jul 05 09:49:26 * * simpad angstrom gpe: simpad.xmodmap keysym is wrong Jul 05 09:49:28 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2600 Jul 05 09:50:11 florian: woowoo Jul 05 09:50:21 * XorA sees lots of opie activity Jul 05 09:51:22 * florian sees lots of simpad bugs Jul 05 09:51:38 * XorA has no simpad so doesnt register them Jul 05 10:01:00 * * OE Bug 2602 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Jul 05 10:01:02 * * zaurus c1000 akita touchscreen broken Jul 05 10:01:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2602 Jul 05 10:07:25 ok, lists worked, thanks, florian! Jul 05 10:11:02 * * OE Bug 2436 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 05 10:11:04 * *  QtEmbedded2 uClibc-EABI build doesn't configure. Jul 05 10:11:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2436 Jul 05 10:24:12 when bitbaking glibc-intermediate-2.3.2, I get "These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc" ! Jul 05 10:25:09 actually I tried to bitbake angstrom-e-image Jul 05 10:26:34 "checking version of ccache i486-angstrom-linux-gcc... 4.1.2, bad" Jul 05 10:26:49 Why is that gcc bad and how can I get a newer one ? Jul 05 10:31:37 ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-base-extended: bluez-dtl1-workaround Jul 05 10:31:50 someone needs to bump PR for task-base-extended I think Jul 05 10:33:09 bye Jul 05 10:37:00 * * OE Bug 2597 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 05 10:37:02 * *  gsteamer instead of gstreamer in gstreamer--feed.conf Jul 05 10:37:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597 Jul 05 10:39:22 ok, have filed a bug for the above problem Jul 05 10:40:04 * Jin^eLD is finally going to take a look at that DaVinci board :> Jul 05 10:44:00 * * OE Bug 2603 has been created by jstoefer(AT)schuett-elektronik.de Jul 05 10:44:02 * * angstrom-e-image broken for i86 Jul 05 10:44:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 Jul 05 11:14:22 wtf? does montavista always come with a setup binary? that looks scary Jul 05 11:22:51 RP: online? could you once again describe peculiarities of DEPENDS vs RDEPENDS? Jul 05 11:24:39 XorA: pushing likely fix for that, please try in few Jul 05 11:24:55 thats really funny, they wrote a java installer, and the only thign it does is - it copies a .tar.gz to a directory of your choice, heh, I hope I can convert that whole thing to OE soon Jul 05 11:30:39 XorA, you are in Glasgow right? Jul 05 11:34:48 hmm, just received my first i-phone spam ... Jul 05 11:36:05 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * recf740bf... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): kernel.bbclass: DEPEND on bluez-dtl1-workaround, not just RDEPEND. Jul 05 11:38:31 Crofton: Edinburgh Jul 05 11:39:20 perhaps a tiny bit offtopic Jul 05 11:39:28 * dcordes helplessly points to oebug 2602 Jul 05 11:39:31 ah Jul 05 11:39:45 but does anyone know what kind of bandwith I should expect when I use a NSLU2+usb<>eth for NAT? Jul 05 11:40:23 We came back from Italy (from Munich) yesterday and ran into some people from the uni in the Philadelphia arport Jul 05 11:40:32 they just came from Glasgow Jul 05 11:40:46 apparently they had a threee day extension of their trip .... Jul 05 11:42:10 dcordes: most scalable way to deal with such bugs is to investigate them yourself, reports all relevant details. then fix will be easy (well, you will be able to do it yourself) Jul 05 11:42:28 Crofton: some numpties tried to bomb glasgow airport Jul 05 11:42:43 Crofton: luckilly they were Medical Doctors and hadnt a clue how explosives work Jul 05 11:42:52 heh Jul 05 11:42:55 yeah Jul 05 11:43:12 Can of petrol + car != explosion Jul 05 11:43:12 yeah, they blocked the car lane closest to the Roanoke airport Jul 05 11:43:34 of course that would not actually do anything to stop annoying people Jul 05 11:43:47 and it just annoys people picking people up at the aiport Jul 05 11:44:34 Crofton: at edinburgh they banned private vehicles and "buses" even though Im sure its gonna be pretty obvious if someone filled a bus with petrol Jul 05 11:44:50 Security theatre Jul 05 11:45:26 security by play acting :-) pretty much as good as security by obscurity Jul 05 11:46:11 oh and to top it all, my train station which is unmanned with basically only a speaker keeps on telling me every 5 minutes security has been heightened. I keep watching out for the 7 foot tall policeman Jul 05 11:46:20 my wife went through security with about twi litres of water in a backpack several months ago Jul 05 11:46:28 psokolovsky, I did not know where to start because I got no answer in #angstrom yesterday. So which details should I try to find out in order to get started? Jul 05 11:46:33 damn security crap and taking liberties with the language Jul 05 11:46:43 yep :) Jul 05 11:47:00 * * OE Bug 2604 has been created by jstoefer(AT)schuett-elektronik.de Jul 05 11:47:02 * * angstrom-x11-image broken for x86 Jul 05 11:47:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2604 Jul 05 11:48:47 Crofton: terrorists did learn one lesson though, dont expect to escape from a Scottish crowd when you piss them off :-) Jul 05 11:49:19 good for the Scots :) Jul 05 11:49:34 dcordes: figuring out and reporting kernel version of course. then, you should figure what it means to have "TS working" in terms of kernel and check each step on that path. It may be a bit uneasy for the first time, but there's no dirty magic in it, and it can be wonderful journey towards getting full control of your device (and wanting that is why we use Linux, right?) Jul 05 11:50:14 psokolovsky, of course I'm very motivwated in getting forward in this Jul 05 11:50:56 s/motivwated/motivated Jul 05 11:52:41 psokolovsky: I dont think your change was quite what you meant Jul 05 11:53:08 psokolovsky: put the RDEPENDS back :-) Jul 05 11:54:18 what is the asoc patch do, I see it used by several projects.. Jul 05 11:54:35 svolpe_gerrath: add ASoC audio Jul 05 11:55:33 XorA, is the ASoC a specific audio codec? Jul 05 11:56:08 svolpe_gerrath: no, its a system for making codec->SoC a generic layer, saving work writing drivers Jul 05 11:56:48 so instead of writing wm8753_corgi.c you have a generic wm8753 driver, a generic pxa255 driver, and a corgi driver that just glues them together Jul 05 11:57:57 how do you know system on chip from summer of code? :) Jul 05 11:58:15 SoC is very much older TLA :-D Jul 05 11:58:38 on the other hand, SoC is very much younger, then :) Jul 05 11:58:57 XorA, makes a lot of sense, why has it not been pushed or accepted :-) to the mainstream kernel? Jul 05 11:59:06 svolpe_gerrath: it has, and is Jul 05 11:59:31 ok, so if I use a new kernel 2.6.21 then I do not need the asoc patch correct? Jul 05 11:59:49 svolpe_gerrath: no, its working it way into kernel now, 2.6.21 doesnt contain it Jul 05 12:16:28 just built angstrom-x11-image and it finished o.k. However, I didn't find any image under /stuff/build/tmp/deploy/images. Jul 05 12:17:00 Doesn't angstrom-x11-image produce an installable image ? Jul 05 12:17:57 jan-js, tmp/deploy/{glibc|uclibc}/images/$machine/ ? Jul 05 12:18:17 thanks for the hint, but why that ? Jul 05 12:19:32 I found images under /deploy/glibc/images/x86, so these are the cproper ones when I am building for x86, right ? Jul 05 12:19:43 yes Jul 05 12:19:49 thanks. Jul 05 12:19:57 and that's because you may wish to build for more than one platform. Jul 05 12:20:15 hmmm ... makes sense. Jul 05 12:21:13 sorry for asking stupid questions, but I am new to oe and some things are not explicitly mentioned anywhere - or I didn't read it ;-) Jul 05 12:21:53 jan-js, it's okay, but sometimes you may looking for stuff on your disk instead of docs :)) Jul 05 12:22:01 s/looking/look/ Jul 05 12:22:36 o.k. ;-) Jul 05 12:31:36 psokolovsky, where can I get information on how TS work? Jul 05 12:38:53 XorA: I really need once-again from RP on that. you know, it really suck to know that you need to put both DEPENDS and RDEPENDS ;-) Jul 05 12:44:31 psokolovsky: DEPENDS is build time, RDEPENDS is packaging time Jul 05 12:45:30 XorA: but RP repeated several times that one can be deduced from another, and bitbake does that. So I wonder what it does, after all... Jul 05 12:46:40 psokolovsky: RDEPENDS should mean it gets build as well Jul 05 12:47:07 XorA: so tell me, why it didn't work for you? Jul 05 12:47:16 psokolovsky: bitbake bug? Jul 05 12:47:21 RDEPENDS only is what it was in the beginning Jul 05 12:47:30 XorA: let's think that way ;-) Jul 05 12:49:58 psokolovsky: if you want to get XYZ as dependency of ZXC you adds XYZ it into RDEPENDS of ZXC. Jul 05 12:50:18 psokolovsky: if you need XYZ to BUILD ZXC you add XYZ into DEPENDS of ZXC Jul 05 12:52:36 hrw: that's all crystal clear and trivial. But think, if I won't something to be runtime-depended, I need it also be built after all, right? Does that mean that any RDEPENDS must be accompanied by duplicate DEPENDS? Jul 05 12:53:24 that would be wrong. Jul 05 12:54:04 no Jul 05 12:54:27 no what? :) Jul 05 12:54:27 bitbake constructs built-time dependencies from DEPENDS and RDEPENDS automatically Jul 05 12:54:33 ah Jul 05 12:57:41 we had that "RDEPENDS must be accompanied by duplicate DEPENDS" stuff years ago and it gave us more and more crap in DEPENDS Jul 05 12:57:58 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7314baf0... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): kernel.bbclass: Oh ok, we need both DEPENDS and RDEPENDS. Jul 05 12:58:10 hrw: that's also well-known story. the question is - *how* does it construct? Jul 05 12:58:20 some comitter 'pfalcon' seems to disagree :) Jul 05 13:00:55 hrw: I can not find those files you added the other day for the arm board. Where can I get them as I am still not building all the way through for matchbox. (I tried a different gcc version due to a qemu complaint and it failed due to the following) | checking for .preinit_array/.init_array/.fini_array support... no Jul 05 13:00:55 | configure: error: Need linker with .init_array/.fini_array support. Jul 05 13:01:41 hrw: so, any hints? Jul 05 13:02:23 there are: DEPENDS, RDEPENDS, PACKAGES. DEPENDS = "list of recipes needed to be build to build recipe". RDEPENDS = "list of packages needed to install resulting package". PACKAGES = "list of packages generated by recipe". bitbake takes DEPENDS, then look into RDEPENDS and tries to find recipe which has it's entries in PACKAGES. when it finds them it add them into DEPENDS Jul 05 13:02:29 so of that Jul 05 13:03:10 Christopher: mtn pull && mtn update;cd oe/conf/machine;cat sarge-at91.conf Jul 05 13:04:25 hrw: what can I say - :-) Jul 05 13:04:41 hrw: when files come up to be merged, how can I get past that ? it comes up using vim and I haven't found documentation on it's merge commands. Jul 05 13:06:02 Christopher: then quit without saving Jul 05 13:06:20 Christopher: you can use external merge tools too Jul 05 13:06:25 Christopher: you likely lingered that looking for apparently. but I agree it's boring. see bottom of http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PaulSokolovsky Jul 05 13:06:43 another way is not patch upstream stuff, lol ;-) Jul 05 13:07:06 hrw: exactly what I was thinking and did that, but it just seemed to keep popping it back up even with the :!quit command but I'll try it again. Jul 05 13:07:59 Christopher: I suggest to revert your local changes then and start to use bitbake collections of maintain own patches with quilt Jul 05 13:08:05 brb Jul 05 13:08:19 hrw: ok. thanks. Jul 05 13:23:02 morning Jul 05 13:30:56 hi all! Jul 05 13:31:39 I am building an angstrom-minimal from scratch and found that several packages are empty, like base-passwd and initscripts Jul 05 13:32:05 have /etc and some other dirs been removed from the standard install rules (FILES)? Jul 05 13:32:15 no Jul 05 13:32:25 * hrw goes back to writing docs Jul 05 13:32:31 hmm, then one of my conf files is garbled Jul 05 13:32:32 thx Jul 05 13:32:36 hrw: so what if we define MACHINE_RESOLUTION after all (as 640x480)? Jul 05 13:33:29 psokolovsky: and? Jul 05 13:33:51 psokolovsky: look at formfactor in Poky - it do that for runtime Jul 05 13:33:58 hrw: and have it as a standard way for machines to define their resolution Jul 05 13:34:28 hrw: will do. but runtime won't help everywhere. Jul 05 13:35:10 * chouimat goes feeding the beast ... Jul 05 13:36:43 psokolovsky: resulution, dpi, depth, keyboard, touchscreen, rotations, keyboard in rotations.. Jul 05 13:37:33 hrw: is that you who did that formfactor stuff? Jul 05 13:38:30 psokolovsky: no, it was done after discussion in OH Jul 05 13:39:13 hrw: so, would it be ok to merge it into OE? Jul 05 13:40:12 first look what it does and how we use it Jul 05 13:57:46 how can I make OE completely rebuild everything from scratch? Jul 05 13:58:16 last time I built it took only half an hour or so Jul 05 13:58:39 dcordes: rm -rf tmp;bitbake everything Jul 05 14:12:26 hrw: so, I had a look at formfactor package. Good idea for sure. That's how it should be done w/o a doubt, runtime config rules. But again, that doesn't supersedes need for build-time config, even if that config is essentially some default setting. Jul 05 14:12:52 hrw: so what about using poky's var names in machine configs to set default screen w/h? Jul 05 14:19:26 psokolovsky: with MACHINE_ prefix - yes Jul 05 14:20:07 hrw: MACHINE_DISPLAY_WIDTH_PIXELS - isn't that too much? ;-) Jul 05 14:20:56 hi all Jul 05 14:21:04 you need to put them in MACHINE_ namespace to get them readable Jul 05 14:21:27 I do not like vars like 'a b c bzdrum' etc Jul 05 14:24:35 could anyone suggest an SDIO bsaed WiFi card, preferably with GPL drivers that are already in the kernel :> Jul 05 14:25:14 anyone every get the following error after trying to do a mtn update? mtn: error: sqlite error: database is locked Jul 05 14:25:14 Jin^eLD: there is no such one iirc Jul 05 14:25:19 hrw: what you guys were thinking about when did that formfactor stuff? ;-)) Jul 05 14:25:29 Christopher: other monotone process use it Jul 05 14:25:43 hrw: I read something about MV SDIO stack and Atheros card support, but it was not quit clear to me if it was already used somewhere Jul 05 14:26:15 hrw: but I should see it under ps, right? all I see is bash and ps. Jul 05 14:27:31 Jin^eLD: it is not in mainline iirc Jul 05 14:27:44 hmm, I see.. Jul 05 14:29:37 can you suggest any solution that can be more or less easily integrated (using 2.6 kernel) Jul 05 14:30:17 no, because I did not follow sdio Jul 05 14:30:33 Jin^eLD: For Atheros 6k and SDIO you could ask Werner Almesberger. We plan to use it in GTA02. Jul 05 14:30:58 stefan_schmidt: what's his IRC nickname, or where do I find him? :> Jul 05 14:31:35 Jin^eLD: I think he is in none public channel. werner@openmoko.org should be fine. Jul 05 14:31:51 thanks Jul 05 14:32:33 Christopher: "px fx" tried? Jul 05 14:33:10 psokolovsky: Poky supports misc hardware and we want to simplify maintaining of device related stuff Jul 05 14:33:46 psokolovsky: for example we do not call x11 calibration on devices without touchscreen (nevermind does XCalibrate and xtscal are available or not) Jul 05 14:34:15 hrw: I guess you mean ps fx? I don't see anything there related to mtn Jul 05 14:34:55 hrw: I hint about naming ;-). otherwise it's cool as I told. But you hardly can get around build-time config either. especially you, as vendor which needs to support *specific* devices (you know I in my current position care about supporting *all* device on generic foundation) Jul 05 14:35:29 ah. naming. I think that names had to be readable Jul 05 14:36:14 hrw: yeah, me too, and it would be really cool if they matched for buildtime/runtime config. well, nevermind... Jul 05 14:37:45 hrw: I found a mtn using ps -e ...but it won't get killed off Jul 05 14:37:54 is /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth correct place for bluetooth config ? Jul 05 14:38:16 Im now reimplementing bluetooth applet in opie so j/w Jul 05 14:38:55 hrw: nevermind. got it will kill -KILL Jul 05 14:39:00 Marex: with bluez 3.x you rather use dbus to get config from bluez Jul 05 14:39:02 Marex: opie already reads config from the proper location, and yep, that's correct iirc ;-) Jul 05 14:39:35 psokolovsky, fine, I will implement BLUETOOTH_FIRMWARE option next, are you fine with it? Jul 05 14:39:49 dbus sucks, message passing architecture rules ;-E Jul 05 14:40:11 hrw, opie doesnt support dbus :-T Jul 05 14:40:36 Marex: dunno, I guess, there's var to pass arbitrary option - see what hx4700 does Jul 05 14:40:57 Marex: and many other things Jul 05 14:41:01 // FIXME -- this is a hack for an odd hciattach interface. Jul 05 14:41:01 if ( ODevice::inst()->modelString() == "HX4700" ) Jul 05 14:41:10 psokolovsky, this is what hx4700 does ;-E Jul 05 14:41:22 Marex: no!! see blueprobe package Jul 05 14:41:44 psokolovsky, yes!! how is blueprobe related to this :-T Jul 05 14:41:53 ah ... got it, nevermind Jul 05 14:42:30 psokolovsky, inherit gpe? cool :b Jul 05 14:42:37 psokolovsky, that is really perfect for opie Jul 05 14:42:51 Marex: blueprobe is what creates /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth. opie reads it first, and only if it's not there, falls to that crap you quoted Jul 05 14:42:54 Hello everyone Jul 05 14:42:58 Hi Marex ^^ Jul 05 14:43:05 the funny thing about /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth is that it supports only devices which blueprobe know Jul 05 14:43:08 Ecco, hi ! :) long time no see Jul 05 14:43:13 Marex: blueprobe is standalone shell script Jul 05 14:43:15 so my zaurus with BT cf card does not work Jul 05 14:43:21 Marex: yeah, right. I've been pretty busy lately Jul 05 14:43:32 Ecco, I see ... same here :) Jul 05 14:43:37 ^^ Jul 05 14:43:53 psokolovsky, that was from libopietooth and that is executed every time Jul 05 14:44:03 also my progear with BT on USB will not work. also my tosa with bt on cf and bt on usb. Jul 05 14:44:12 I'm done with school ^^ 1 week of holiday, and then I'll start my first job ^^ Jul 05 14:44:15 hrw: sorry, do you have an idea if slapin's commit access for discussed by now? Jul 05 14:44:47 Ecco, I finished highschool so 3 months of holiday and hacking ;] Jul 05 14:45:01 psokolovsky: he was told atleast twice that he has to send monotone keys to koen and mickeyl. if he did not sent then he has to complain to himself Jul 05 14:45:11 Awesome ^^ Which university are you gonna go to ? Jul 05 14:45:28 psokolovsky, why does blueprobe inherit gpe then ? ;-E Jul 05 14:45:46 Ecco, cherles uni, faculty of maths and physics 8) Jul 05 14:45:53 *Charles Jul 05 14:45:58 Awesome. Where is it ? Jul 05 14:46:01 Marex: SRC_URI? Jul 05 14:46:01 CR ? Jul 05 14:46:15 Ecco, yeah, sure, in Prague Jul 05 14:46:21 hrw, oh ok :-T Jul 05 14:46:22 Nice ! Jul 05 14:46:37 hrw: /e/s/b is generic config in unix spirit. it supports *everything*. dbus and stuff are funky novelties rooted in dcoms and corbas, and does not and will not supersede common unix sense. (not that I'm saying its useless - I'm terribly glad there's single practical standard for that stuff now) Jul 05 14:47:01 hrw: he did send, I was in cc: even. Jul 05 14:47:09 psokolovsky: I did what you said on your web page about merging diffs. when it exits the vim compare, I get a /bin/bash/!wq: command not found error and then it asks to hit enter again and it goes back to the same file. Do you know what I am doing wrong here? Jul 05 14:48:07 Ecco, yeah, btw we can move this discussion on #hackndev ;] Jul 05 14:48:12 Christopher: hmm. nope, can't say from that. do you really use vimdiff, not just vim? Jul 05 14:48:42 I did an export on EDITOR for vimdiff Jul 05 14:48:47 psokolovsky: /e/s/* are redhat and its forks Jul 05 14:49:12 hrw: I believe I checked it for debian-availability Jul 05 14:49:15 psokolovsky: so if he sent then koen/mickeyl are proper guys to ask Jul 05 14:49:23 psokolovsky: debian use /etc/default/ Jul 05 14:49:25 hrw, :) I've sent monotone keys Jul 05 14:50:00 psokolovsky: and on my system /etc/default/bluetooth control which parts of BT subsystem are to be started Jul 05 14:50:05 hrw, and, to that matter, I was told about that only once :) Jul 05 14:50:24 Christopher: strange. well, dunno then. maybe you enter something in wrong sequence... then just make copy of your stuff, revert, update, and then put your stuff back (merge as needed) Jul 05 14:50:56 hrw: gotcha. Marex: so check default of course Jul 05 14:51:22 psokolovsky: so, basically just start over then? I can just remove everything and have it get again. Jul 05 14:51:24 hrw: ah, then it's another */bluetooth ;-) Jul 05 14:51:34 hrw, mail from Jun 9, 2007 Jul 05 14:51:47 k Jul 05 14:51:54 Christopher: you don't have to remove completely, just put aside Jul 05 14:51:58 psokolovsky, so /etc/default/bluetooth? Jul 05 14:52:09 psokolovsky, and you are Cc:ed to that mail :) Jul 05 14:52:13 psokolovsky: ok. Jul 05 14:52:26 Marex: no. see opie source. grep thru. I submitted that patch (well, not mine actually), and it was merged. Jul 05 14:52:38 slapin: that's what I said too Jul 05 14:53:16 Marex: /e/s/b is better place as /e/d/b is part of bluez not blueprobe and control other stuff then 'where is bt' Jul 05 14:53:22 psokolovsky, that mail has mtn key attached Jul 05 14:53:27 * hrw -> food Jul 05 14:53:50 mickey|tv, hrw, message from Jun 9, 2007 has mtn key attached Jul 05 14:54:10 slapin: you getcha it - ping koen/mickey Jul 05 14:54:20 koen, ping Jul 05 14:54:37 hrw, fine ... so once and last time for my retarted brain ... I should put config to /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth Jul 05 14:54:57 hrw, take it from there and control opie bluetooth using that Jul 05 14:54:59 right? Jul 05 14:57:39 mickey|tv, ping... Jul 05 15:02:02 slapin: koen is offline for 2 weeks Jul 05 15:04:09 hi Jul 05 15:08:42 hrw, ok, but whi can help me then? Jul 05 15:08:47 *who Jul 05 15:09:37 mickeyl Jul 05 15:10:54 ~seen mickeyl Jul 05 15:10:58 mickeyl was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 20h 4m 35s ago, saying: 'wb'. Jul 05 15:13:38 ~logs Jul 05 15:13:39 it has been said that logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org// where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/.html.gz Jul 05 15:13:52 ~zap ibot_ Jul 05 15:13:53 * ibot_ takes out a cattle prod and gives ibot_ a good jolt. Jul 05 15:18:21 ~botmail for mickeyl hi, could you please add my key I've sent to you on june 9? Jul 05 15:56:50 bye all Jul 05 16:36:52 i try to build a opie-image with uclibc for simpad, actual oe-tree, it fails now by do_rootfs with dependencies error opie-icon-reload for task-opie-base-settings Jul 05 16:38:09 but opie-icon-reload is build in work/all-angstrom-linux-uclib/ Jul 05 16:38:17 mrdata, heh Jul 05 16:38:32 any hints was going wrong there Jul 05 16:38:35 mrdata, try creating opie-icon-reload_cvs.bb Jul 05 16:38:58 just copy those _1.2.2.bbs to _cvs.bbs they are missing Jul 05 16:39:27 cp opie-icon-reload_1.2.2.bb opie-icon-reload_cvs.bb Jul 05 16:40:24 ah okay, and no chanches in opie-icon-reload_cvs.bb ? Jul 05 16:40:41 opie-icon-reload is in OE Jul 05 16:40:50 it should not be versioned like opie is Jul 05 16:41:07 and it should be PACKAGE_ARCH="all" Jul 05 16:41:38 mrdata, nope ... at least this way it worked for me Jul 05 16:41:55 hrw|gone, those cvs packages are really missing even though they should be there Jul 05 16:42:22 mrdata I had no problems here Jul 05 16:42:33 I can upload you my image Jul 05 16:42:42 * hrw|gone goes away - bye Jul 05 16:42:52 but I didnt test it yet Jul 05 16:42:58 CIA-3: beware of my commit flood Jul 05 16:43:38 hrw uh Jul 05 16:43:42 woglinde: hi, and i had errors while build, obexftp will not build right Jul 05 16:43:46 what did you do Jul 05 16:43:59 mrdata no problems here with obexftp Jul 05 16:44:21 but I build 16mb opie-image Jul 05 16:45:26 that make no differenc Jul 05 16:45:58 task-opie-irda and task-opie-bluetooth will need it Jul 05 16:46:11 I right upload it now Jul 05 16:46:20 but it will last a while Jul 05 16:46:33 okay Jul 05 16:47:01 Marex: and opie-icon-reload_cvs will also not help Jul 05 16:47:09 I am now making a initramfs with pcmciautils so we can use nfsroot via pcmcia network Jul 05 16:47:46 mrdata, bitbake opie-icon-reload -c rebuild Jul 05 16:47:53 but only, if you have a ne2000 pcmcia 16-bit network card Jul 05 16:48:34 hehe! I think I have one of those in my junk box, if it didn't get thrown out some time ago! Jul 05 16:49:08 mrdata yes I have one Jul 05 16:49:29 and you might find one on ebay Jul 05 16:49:33 really cheap Jul 05 16:51:59 woglinde: cheap is not a problem for me, but find a right one, no one say ne2k pcmcia 16-bit network card Jul 05 16:52:36 Marex: i have no luck, same error Jul 05 16:53:09 mrdata hehe Jul 05 16:53:15 you have the source Jul 05 16:53:19 of the linuxkernel Jul 05 16:53:32 and there are mentioned a lot Jul 05 16:53:42 or in at the pcmcia-cs page Jul 05 16:53:47 I will point it to you Jul 05 16:54:11 http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS Jul 05 16:54:24 all under [pcnet_cs driver] Jul 05 16:54:27 are 16 bit Jul 05 16:54:39 erm Jul 05 16:54:52 iirc, xircom`s also have 16bit Jul 05 16:54:56 yes Jul 05 16:54:59 xirc2ps_cs Jul 05 16:55:05 but you usally dont get the old ones Jul 05 16:55:20 the a rather than ne200k cards Jul 05 16:55:31 i`ve get it from auction. new in a box :) Jul 05 16:56:31 hello all...what version of gcc are you using with OE ? 4.1.2 ? 3.4.5 ? Jul 05 16:56:54 4.1.2 for angstroem Jul 05 16:57:02 +1 Jul 05 16:57:12 and for some old kernels 3.x.x Jul 05 16:57:34 I hope they will go away in future Jul 05 16:57:45 2.4 is dead espcially on arm Jul 05 16:57:48 ok. And no issues building anything with 4.1.2 ? weird compiler things? I know one some of the versions, there are warnings about bad builds Jul 05 16:58:01 I'm working with a at91rm9200 (arm9). Jul 05 16:58:21 hm no problems or they get the patches Jul 05 16:58:37 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8a3c7a06... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): feed-browser: include architecture selector Jul 05 16:58:46 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r16946bd9... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): feed-browser: exit if database cannot be found or created Jul 05 16:58:52 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r045799da... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): feed-browser: updated copyrights Jul 05 16:58:58 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re5a27797... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/index.php): feed-browser: updated copyrights Jul 05 16:59:05 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r958b4439... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): feed-browser: use read_vars_from_get to handle HTTP GET params Jul 05 16:59:12 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6ecc6574... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): feed-browser: simplified URLs (no 'action' var anymore), simplified code a bit Jul 05 16:59:20 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3c138b43... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): feed-browser: list of architectures from database instead of static list Jul 05 16:59:27 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3494e26a... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/index.php): feed-browser: search when arch is selected and no package name provided Jul 05 16:59:34 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rcc21f895... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/includes/functions.inc): feed-browser: in package details sort by version, then by arch Jul 05 16:59:36 woglinde: have you a opie-icon-reload.ipk in your deploy/uclibc/ipk/all for opie-image-16mb build? Jul 05 16:59:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r14b201ae... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/index.php): feed-browser: mark selected architecture in list of archs, also show entered package name Jul 05 16:59:48 mrdata -> http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/heinold/Angstrom-opie-image-16mb-uclibc-test-20070704-simpad.rootfs.jffs2 Jul 05 17:02:46 RP the pxa-udc kernel module generated from usb_pxa27x_udc-r5.patch causes a kernel dump from a null pointer. I tracked it down to the function udc_disable and the line "dev->mach->udc_command(PXA2XX_UDC_CMD_DISCONNECT);" if I take that line and put it in the following if statement "if (dev->mach->udc_command)" Then I get no more dumps and the module works great. Jul 05 17:02:58 woglinde: thx! Jul 05 17:03:38 RP, I'm not sure if my fix is good or not but it does work :-/ Jul 05 17:03:53 lunch now Jul 05 17:04:03 than compiling some stuff static Jul 05 17:14:27 morning Jul 05 17:15:03 kergoth: hey, how are you? Jul 05 17:17:24 pretty good, happy to be working on linux again. thinking about pulling down an oe tree and getting back up to speed with it Jul 05 17:17:37 take it easy :) Jul 05 17:22:26 !praise vmware Jul 05 17:22:27 * cdbot2 bows down to vmware and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jul 05 17:40:26 re Jul 05 18:22:27 re Jul 05 18:22:40 re florian Jul 05 18:57:18 woglinde: opie-image-16mb runs on my simpad ;-) Jul 05 19:03:00 mickey|tv, ping Jul 05 19:06:31 mrdata fine Jul 05 19:06:43 I am hustling with initrd Jul 05 19:08:07 woglinde: initrd runs on simpad from flash and get image over network right? Jul 05 19:08:33 better rootfs over nfs Jul 05 19:09:57 yes Jul 05 19:10:04 but I have to load booth in ram Jul 05 19:10:16 and than set the initrd parameters right Jul 05 19:10:20 which isnt easy Jul 05 19:10:31 both kernel and initrd Jul 05 19:10:52 initrd from cf or over serial? Jul 05 19:11:06 serial Jul 05 19:11:11 my cf is ext2 Jul 05 19:11:17 which can be read by bootldr Jul 05 19:11:21 cant Jul 05 19:11:52 and make 2 partitions on cf Jul 05 19:12:09 hm Jul 05 19:12:15 hda1 vfat and hda2 ext2 Jul 05 19:12:16 that would be an idea Jul 05 19:12:46 but serial for 2 mb transfer is okay too Jul 05 19:14:24 problem is to switch from cf to ne2k Jul 05 19:14:58 hm maybee mtd partition? Jul 05 19:16:15 delete the /home one than you will get enought space for a initrd/kernel one Jul 05 19:16:20 woglinde: how to switch of simpad, without apm ? Jul 05 19:18:28 mrdata hm? Jul 05 19:18:35 boot in bootldr and type halt Jul 05 19:18:47 thats hardcore Jul 05 19:19:01 hehe Jul 05 19:19:09 hm Jul 05 19:19:17 also cf-card support in kernel is missing, no modules inside Jul 05 19:19:17 first try wasnt good Jul 05 19:19:28 hm? Jul 05 19:19:39 i want to get all stuff in ram Jul 05 19:19:43 does it prevent you from shutting it down? :) Jul 05 19:19:52 so i can setup n2k card Jul 05 19:19:58 and than boot nfsroot Jul 05 19:20:00 polyonymous: yes Jul 05 19:20:01 thats the goal Jul 05 19:20:14 hm Jul 05 19:20:42 well, if you know what exactly prevents you from shutting it down then I'm sure you can solve it :) Jul 05 19:20:50 polyonymous: and i can not check, if wakup do it right Jul 05 19:21:08 ah, so you want suspend, not shutdown? Jul 05 19:21:20 polyonymous: exactly Jul 05 19:21:22 ah... without apm... gotcha. Jul 05 19:21:41 * polyonymous has just came home and is a bit slow Jul 05 19:21:54 but I have no answers for you, anyway. Jul 05 19:22:07 * mr_nice|afk flashing the image now Jul 05 19:22:33 woglinde: thx for uploading it Jul 05 19:22:43 mrdata hm apm isnt present? Jul 05 19:22:46 polyonymous: but thats no problem Jul 05 19:22:52 in my image? Jul 05 19:22:56 woglinde: no Jul 05 19:23:05 okay Jul 05 19:24:01 hm no= it is present Jul 05 19:24:34 woglinde: do you know documentation stuff for opie? Jul 05 19:24:37 woglinde: no=not present in your image Jul 05 19:24:41 hm Jul 05 19:24:43 apmd is in Jul 05 19:24:46 why apm itself Jul 05 19:24:48 strange Jul 05 19:25:06 no apm kernel support or what? Jul 05 19:25:13 woglinde: and lucky thing, in my opie rootfs dir is apm available Jul 05 19:25:45 polyonymous: simple - apm binary is not in image Jul 05 19:26:05 ah I seenow. Are you talking about opie image? Jul 05 19:26:18 yes :) Jul 05 19:26:39 polyonymous: and i can not build an image from my rootfs, because do_rootfs give me an error for opie-icon-reload Jul 05 19:26:43 argh, anyone happen to have an amd64 mtn 0.32 .deb handy? Jul 05 19:26:56 bb says install -m 4755 ${S}/.libs/apm ${D}${bindir}/apm Jul 05 19:26:57 * kergoth 's following gettingstarted and getting annoyed with mtn version incompatibilities Jul 05 19:27:17 kergoth hrw probably Jul 05 19:27:18 kergoth, nope, and I haven't tried .32, only .31 and .35, I think :) Jul 05 19:27:31 mrdata, what is the problem with opie-icon-reload? Jul 05 19:28:07 .35 says i need to migrate when using a current OE.mtn.bz2 Jul 05 19:28:08 no provider Jul 05 19:28:09 heh Jul 05 19:28:13 and is 'data'=='_nice' Jul 05 19:28:21 hmm, I am still using 0.32 ... Jul 05 19:28:22 kergoth, migrate it then :) Jul 05 19:28:24 kergoth that only last 6 or 8 hours Jul 05 19:28:44 polyonymous: no Jul 05 19:28:46 woglinde, I think it lasted a minute or so. Jul 05 19:28:56 missing dependencies for task-opie-base-settings -> opie-icon-reload Jul 05 19:29:02 polynymous what? Jul 05 19:29:08 mr_nice, ok. So you just both misters and you're both talking about opie-image :) Jul 05 19:29:17 woglinde, migrating .mtn Jul 05 19:29:23 it last here 8 hours with the suggested rebuilds Jul 05 19:29:26 polyonymous: yes Jul 05 19:29:48 polyonymous: and we talk about the same image ;-) -> for simpad Jul 05 19:29:59 mrdata, huh... must be recent commits. When was the last time you pulled? Jul 05 19:30:28 woglinde, what rebuilds? Are you talking about mtn db migration or what? Jul 05 19:30:44 polyonymous: today, 17:15 Berlin time Jul 05 19:31:07 polyonymous yes Jul 05 19:31:24 mrdata, well, I haven't built opie image for a couple of weeks now, I think... Jul 05 19:31:39 woglinde, and what rebuilds does mtn migration require?? Jul 05 19:31:54 it bubbels soemething I typed Jul 05 19:32:03 and than waited 8 hours Jul 05 19:32:19 dont know anymore Jul 05 19:32:32 woglinde, Weird. It took minutes here I'm pretty sure. What version were you migrating from? Jul 05 19:33:33 32 to 35 Jul 05 19:34:22 * mr_nice happy Jul 05 19:35:42 mr_nice hm yes but apm isnt in the image Jul 05 19:35:47 and can provide it Jul 05 19:35:51 It lulls you into a false sense of security by performing several stages of the migration that sound very complicated, and complete. Then it announces that it needs to rebuild some caches, or something similar -- which takes anywhere from 4 - 12 hours. Jul 05 19:35:52 I can provide it Jul 05 19:36:12 mwester yes that it was Jul 05 19:37:44 so next try Jul 05 19:37:50 I have pondered on what one can do with a 100MByte dataset in that amount of time using a 2.8GHz P4. And the only theory that makes sense to me is that the original author of MTN encrypted the data, and lost the key. The enormous time spent on so little data can only be a brute-force attack on the encryption. Jul 05 19:37:53 I hope not to overwrite the kernel this time Jul 05 19:38:00 with the initrd in ram Jul 05 19:40:18 woglinde: hm, just flashed the image. I did now a find / -name apm . I only get /etc/apm/ and /proc/apm as result Jul 05 19:40:33 mr_nice Jul 05 19:40:38 I know Jul 05 19:40:50 but the apm binary is builded here Jul 05 19:40:51 re Jul 05 19:41:03 dont know why it didnt get into the image Jul 05 19:41:16 woglinde: ah, sorry didi't saw the isnt Jul 05 19:41:39 you can copy it manualy if you like Jul 05 19:42:06 woglinde: what could by the reason, that opie-icon-reload build is okay, but create no .ipk for it? Jul 05 19:42:13 woglinde: but I wish you luck for that initrd stuff. If you are successfull I would be glad if you can document it on opensimpad.org -> knowledgebase Jul 05 19:42:25 mr_nice yes will do Jul 05 19:42:33 woglinde: :) Jul 05 19:43:13 hm okay Jul 05 19:43:47 now I have addresses where kernel and initrd can live without interfeering Jul 05 19:43:49 thats should be the root cause, that do_rootfs failed by me Jul 05 19:45:02 kergoth: nearly each monotone version change database schema. migration takes only few minutes Jul 05 19:45:20 he hrw Jul 05 19:46:28 mr_nice,mrdata -> http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/heinold/apm Jul 05 19:46:32 is the apm binary Jul 05 19:46:40 hrw|gone, how long to upgrade from .32 to .35? Jul 05 19:47:36 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rf1870c83... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): opie-taskbar: Split machine (actutally, resolution) dependent files to another package. Jul 05 19:47:41 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rbfba6152... 10/ (1 packages/opie-taskbar/opie-taskbar-images_cvs.bb): opie-taskbar-images: Fix PR. Jul 05 19:47:46 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd1000035... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Jul 05 19:47:46 opie-taskbar-images: Don't package images to machine-dependent file, instead Jul 05 19:47:46 package to separate packages for each reolution (otherwise, machine independent). Jul 05 19:47:46 Then, some higher-level task (task-opie) will select need package for specific Jul 05 19:47:46 machine. User still will be able to install another package fwiw, or even Jul 05 19:47:46 woglinde: thx Jul 05 19:47:48 multiple (for example, to have nice wallpaper across screen rotations, but Jul 05 19:47:50 this of course will need runtime support). Jul 05 19:47:54 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r30954977... 10/ (1 packages/opie-taskbar/opie-taskbar_cvs.bb): opie-taskbar: Bump PR. Jul 05 19:47:59 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rf795d68d... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-opie.bb): Jul 05 19:47:59 task-opie: Add dependency on opie-taskbar-images, 240x320 version until ways Jul 05 19:48:01 to provide screen size for all machines will be settled. Jul 05 19:48:10 hehe Jul 05 19:48:22 seems I need to build new opie.image tomorrow Jul 05 19:50:41 woglinde: do you enable parallel make in your local.conf? Jul 05 19:53:39 yes Jul 05 19:53:52 now Jul 05 19:53:57 only parallel bitbake Jul 05 19:54:12 now=no Jul 05 19:54:47 okay, and no bb_number_threads, right? Jul 05 19:55:06 bb_number_threads is at 2 Jul 05 19:55:28 but that dont cause any errors Jul 05 19:55:50 not fully true for me Jul 05 19:56:58 with bb_number_threads=16 i get md5sum errors while download files from net Jul 05 19:57:04 lol Jul 05 19:57:13 * CosmicPenguin wonders if he is motivated enough to write a bug Jul 05 19:57:19 16 is really overkill Jul 05 19:58:26 hm yes do_install of apmd shows no sign of installing apm binary Jul 05 19:58:30 hm, too much, okay, i will use smaler values Jul 05 19:58:51 are yes I see it Jul 05 19:58:58 there is this empty line Jul 05 19:59:00 in the .bb Jul 05 19:59:07 CosmicPenguin: you mean me for writing a bug Jul 05 19:59:13 in do_install Jul 05 19:59:20 thats the root of all evil Jul 05 20:00:04 CosmicPenguin: thats not a problem in motivation, more problem in time management and the wrong language for me Jul 05 20:00:09 hm Jul 05 20:00:29 what? Jul 05 20:01:10 CosmicPenguin: your comment was for me or not? Jul 05 20:01:21 no Jul 05 20:01:27 why would you ever think it was? Jul 05 20:03:05 CosmicPenguin: ah, okay, and sorry for that, and it was the wrong thinking from me Jul 05 20:03:21 hm Jul 05 20:03:33 initrd gets loaded now Jul 05 20:03:38 but init failed Jul 05 20:03:52 let me test a simple hello world Jul 05 20:09:00 * * OE Bug 2605 has been created by jordan.crouse(AT)amd.com Jul 05 20:09:02 * * mkfontdir-1.0.3 uses the wrong URL Jul 05 20:09:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2605 Jul 05 20:15:30 * kergoth starts his first openembedded build in like a year Jul 05 20:15:45 hi kergoth Jul 05 20:15:52 the prodigal sun returns Jul 05 20:15:57 son even Jul 05 20:16:05 on an unrelated note, http://www.isisetup.ch/ is really nifty Jul 05 20:16:17 CosmicPenguin: it's ok we all know that kergoth is a star ;) Jul 05 20:18:15 okay Jul 05 20:18:23 hello world works Jul 05 20:18:34 hm than is busybox static broken Jul 05 20:18:55 hehe welcome back kergoth Jul 05 20:19:03 hehe Jul 05 20:19:17 * kergoth needs to try to subvert mvista, get them to drop that crazy rpm stuff Jul 05 20:19:28 kergoth lol Jul 05 20:19:33 don quitote? Jul 05 20:19:37 hehe Jul 05 20:20:02 quixote* iirc Jul 05 20:20:12 not that it really matters :-) Jul 05 20:20:33 hm it does thanks Jul 05 20:20:46 have to remember it Jul 05 20:21:26 I have no idea why I know that Jul 05 20:21:29 wishbone maybe Jul 05 20:21:31 kergoth, you need to subvert MV and have them support OE Jul 05 20:22:17 yes Jul 05 21:01:02 do I get it right that to export variable from bb to environment I need to VAR[export]="1" ? I mean, it works and it doesn't work otherwise, but is it the way it should be done? Jul 05 21:04:28 does anyone know any DAB hardware that works under linux? Jul 05 21:05:47 preferably something that could be used on an embedded device :> Jul 05 21:28:01 * * OE Bug 2543 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 05 21:28:03 * *  no icq in pidgin Jul 05 21:28:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2543 Jul 05 21:31:01 * * OE Bug 1672 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2589 by Jul 05 21:31:03 * *  binary locale generation fail on amd64 when compiling glibc Jul 05 21:31:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1672 Jul 05 21:55:53 summatusmentis, haven't you simply read it? :) Jul 05 21:58:26 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r08a26533... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): libtool-{cross,native} 1.5.10: rework rpath stripping to make it controllable Jul 05 21:58:32 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * raa65a0e3... 10/ (1 packages/gaim/pidgin.inc packages/gaim/pidgin_2.0.2.bb): pidgin: let it add correct rpath and close bug #2543 Jul 05 21:58:37 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r19868d32... 10/ (1 packages/qemu/qemu-native.inc): qemu-native: add picking up gcc-3.4.6 to gcc selection code Jul 05 22:01:00 * cbrake installs scratchbox for 770 dev -- "special purpose" comes to mind ... Jul 05 22:09:00 * * OE Bug 2606 has been created by jpuhlman(AT)mvista.com Jul 05 22:09:02 * * Source for db3 archive seems to not be avalible any more. Jul 05 22:09:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2606 Jul 05 22:29:00 * * OE Bug 2593 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 05 22:29:02 * *  Qt4-x11 broken for generic x86 target Jul 05 22:29:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2593 Jul 05 22:36:08 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r725bb762... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt4_arch.inc): qt4: change x86 qt arch into i386 as per bug #2593 Jul 05 22:43:01 hmm, anyone ever implement a p2p patch distribution mechanism? Jul 05 22:44:09 kergoth, git? :) Jul 05 22:44:37 hehe. there's actually a little project called gittorrent.. havent looked to see how it works yet Jul 05 22:45:03 I think git-daemon basically _is_ p2p patch distribution mechanism. Jul 05 22:45:05 just thinking of alternatives to file:///, particularly wrt a possible oe source package format Jul 05 22:45:25 Well, at least git-daemon + some registration of git: uris somewhere. Jul 05 22:45:49 hmm.. that sounds like a kind of git patch fetcher. Jul 05 22:46:19 but yes, there should be a way to detect alternative uris. Maybe that's what gittorrent is about? Jul 05 22:50:03 * kergoth thinks Jul 05 23:10:45 03svolpe 07org.oe.dev * rdf19f0a6... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): perl-5.8.8: Fix syntax error (unterminated quoted string) Jul 05 23:12:00 * * OE Bug 2528 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 05 23:12:02 * *  CROSS COMPILE Badness: gtkhtml-3.6 fails do_compile Jul 05 23:12:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2528 Jul 05 23:12:04 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rffd0514c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): gtkhtml-3.6: fix cross-compile badness and close bug #2528 Jul 05 23:38:27 polyonymous: no, i've never read don quixote Jul 05 23:55:27 summatusmentis, do read then to justify your knowledge :) Jul 05 23:56:04 it's one of those books that, once you see the wishbone, reading it is just icing on an already delicious cake Jul 05 23:57:18 how do you know? :) Jul 05 23:58:06 because all the books that wishbone does, are that way Jul 05 23:58:11 or did Jul 05 23:58:36 what is wishbone, anyway? :) Jul 05 23:58:57 FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.20.6/modules.dep: No such file or directory Jul 05 23:59:07 what is that?? Jul 05 23:59:30 dcordes, depmod -a ? Jul 05 23:59:39 polyonymous: some television show I used to watch as a kid. There was this jack russel terrier that would play the part of the main character in whatever classic novel was being portrayed Jul 05 23:59:46 dcordes: did you just ipkg upgrade? Jul 06 00:00:02 no I just reflashed my whole image Jul 06 00:00:07 same thing on depmod -a Jul 06 00:00:10 summatusmentis, ahh. I don't know much about tv shows, especially american ones :) Jul 06 00:00:14 I get this message trying to modprobe any module Jul 06 00:00:24 dcordes, try to depmod -a Jul 06 00:00:34 same thing on depmod -a Jul 06 00:00:37 same thing Jul 06 00:00:41 02:00 < dcordes> same thing on depmod -a Jul 06 00:01:12 polyonymous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishbone_(TV_series) Jul 06 00:01:13 oops Jul 06 00:01:17 sorry Jul 06 00:01:26 hm Jul 06 00:01:33 dcordes: ls /lib/modules Jul 06 00:01:33 thanks, summatusmentis Jul 06 00:01:38 is 2.6.20.6 there? Jul 06 00:01:50 summatusmentis: 2.6.21 Jul 06 00:02:01 did you flash both image and kernel? Jul 06 00:02:03 sure thing polyonymous, always like to help expand people's knowledge Jul 06 00:02:08 and was it proper kernel? Jul 06 00:02:14 dcordes: that's why, looks like you flashed the wrong kernel Jul 06 00:02:51 polyonymous: I bitbaked angstrom-x11-image, extracted the contents of the .tar.gz format image to my ext2 card and booted it Jul 06 00:02:56 same procedure with last build Jul 06 00:03:05 there it worked perfectly Jul 06 00:03:19 dcordes, and kernel? you didn't flash it? Jul 06 00:03:55 polyonymous: oh looks like I didn't think much :) Jul 06 00:04:14 that happens at times :) Jul 06 00:04:52 I have something living in my flash that is initiating altboot to boot from SD. I thought that would be independent of the actual OS on the card Jul 06 00:05:46 dcordes, probably you can avoid flashing kernel with some kexec trickery... I'm not sure though if it's currently possible Jul 06 00:47:58 Im new to this stuff, i want to package up some perl modules from CPAN to angstrom using the OE build tool, can anyone tell me if this ispossible? Jul 06 01:22:00 * * OE Bug 2607 has been created by david.johnson(AT)lehigh.edu Jul 06 01:22:02 * * tetex package fails to configure Jul 06 01:22:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2607 Jul 06 01:51:09 it is interrupted and reported that "must install xorg-macros 1.1 or later" when i build angstrom. Jul 06 01:51:32 how to solve it Jul 06 01:53:51 MrEMaN: There's plenty of cpan modules in package/perl already and if you look at most of them they are relatively simple recipes. You need both a standard and a -native version of the .bb files. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 06 02:59:57 2007