**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 11 02:59:57 2007 Jul 11 06:55:20 hello Jul 11 06:56:02 i need help trying to create an linux.bb file that depends on a cpio initramfs image. Jul 11 07:29:15 hello? Jul 11 07:36:35 anyone awake? Jul 11 07:43:59 * * OE Bug 2639 has been created by law(AT)a1.net Jul 11 07:44:02 * * ptim_*_svn.bb: Makefile patch isnt required any more Jul 11 07:44:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 Jul 11 07:45:29 m9dhatter: sort of, but besides greping packages/linux for cpio I have no idea Jul 11 07:47:50 morning Jul 11 07:53:37 good morning Jul 11 07:55:13 morning florian Jul 11 07:58:55 good morning 2:58 am here :) Jul 11 08:28:14 hello anyone? Jul 11 08:29:07 zecke: so far, none of the linux bb files use cpio as an initramfs Jul 11 08:29:21 Hello Jul 11 08:30:12 I have a problem with how the new bitbake (1.8) bitbake works, should I post a "bug report" or should I just tell you guys? Jul 11 08:31:00 * * OE Bug 2639 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 11 08:31:02 * *  ptim_*_svn.bb: Makefile patch isnt required any more Jul 11 08:31:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 Jul 11 08:32:20 hi Jul 11 08:32:25 morning Jul 11 08:32:27 hi hrw Jul 11 08:32:31 B_Lizzard: Bug reports are always better... and many of the developers are at Guadec already. Jul 11 08:32:36 Aha Jul 11 08:32:46 Ok, thanks a lot Jul 11 08:32:51 B_Lizzard: tell Jul 11 08:32:51 afternoon here. :D Jul 11 08:33:00 florian what application is ptim? Jul 11 08:33:01 florian: guadec already started? not friday? Jul 11 08:33:01 hi m9dhatter Jul 11 08:33:20 Um, basically, could you make sure that bitbake cleans the workdir after each build if "rm_dir" is set, not matter the multithreading and whatever Jul 11 08:33:21 hi woglinde, hi hrw Jul 11 08:33:21 ? Jul 11 08:33:28 hello florian. is do_rootfs always executed at the end of all bitbake builds? Jul 11 08:33:48 florian: i kinda need it to build *before* the kernel builds. Jul 11 08:33:58 hrw: yes sure, well... "in that direction" ;) Jul 11 08:34:05 hi florian Jul 11 08:34:10 Ooops Jul 11 08:34:16 I meant to say "rm_work" Jul 11 08:34:33 B_Lizzard: it is not granted that rm_work will work at all with 1.8 Jul 11 08:34:50 Basically, all this non-linear build and multithreading stuff beats the purpose of rm_work Jul 11 08:34:51 m9dhatter: Not necessarily - it depends on the target you build and with an up to date bitbake you can have quite some tasks after that. Jul 11 08:35:00 B_Lizzard: and do_rootfs depends on do_package_write of all used names so it usually is at the end Jul 11 08:35:06 It does, but it cleans at irregular periods Jul 11 08:35:20 So it builds up Jul 11 08:35:59 florian: i used 1.8.6 and DEPENDS=some-image on some-linux.bb isnt producing an image before the kernel builds. Jul 11 08:36:42 I mean, I use 1.8 for my everyday needs, and I change to 1.6 (which was made harder with these new sanity tests) when I want to clean my workdir Jul 11 08:37:03 B_Lizzard: I can give you something to test Jul 11 08:37:10 Is there any way I can clean all the completed packages' workdirs manually? Jul 11 08:37:16 hrw, ok... :) Jul 11 08:37:41 B_Lizzard: after build finish: rm-rf TMPDIR/work/ Jul 11 08:37:49 B_Lizzard: rm tmp/work/-linux>/ Jul 11 08:38:16 Yeah, that's not clean Jul 11 08:38:31 B_Lizzard: 1. remove addtask lines from rm_work.bbclass Jul 11 08:38:33 I mean, I might need to inspect some unfinished packages Jul 11 08:38:34 B_Lizzard: thats VERY clean. :p Jul 11 08:38:38 B_Lizzard: 2. add those lines to it: Jul 11 08:38:39 +BB_DEFAULT_TASK = "rm_work" Jul 11 08:38:39 +addtask rm_work after do_build Jul 11 08:38:47 B_Lizzard: test does it works Jul 11 08:38:51 Ok... Jul 11 08:38:54 Lemme see then Jul 11 08:38:56 m9dhatter: hmm... can you paste the whole description at pastebin or somethign like that? Jul 11 08:39:28 hrw: had a mass building splurge on autoconf 2.61 last night and found no problems Jul 11 08:39:54 XorA: I only have a problem with alsa-lib but 1.0.14 from Poky fixed it Jul 11 08:40:18 hrw: that must have been some wierd host conflict thingy, as I didnt see an issue Jul 11 08:40:30 hrw: or maybe because I upgraded m4-native Jul 11 08:40:46 hrw: scratch that last, I did that after image built Jul 11 08:41:13 mallum loses out on his beer :-D Jul 11 08:41:29 florian: will do. please wait Jul 11 08:41:34 xora when its goin in? Jul 11 08:41:38 XorA: I have m4-native 1.4.8 Jul 11 08:42:01 hrw: you didnt push it Jul 11 08:42:03 florian: http://pastebin.com/d39051f48 Jul 11 08:42:07 I know Jul 11 08:42:12 hrw: I did last night Jul 11 08:42:20 hrw: after I tested it on package that needs it Jul 11 08:44:50 XorA: did you booted resulting image? Jul 11 08:44:56 hrw: not yet Jul 11 08:45:42 ok Jul 11 08:50:00 am i still connected? :p Jul 11 08:50:07 m9dhatter: no Jul 11 08:50:16 florian: http://pastebin.com/d39051f48 Jul 11 08:51:17 m9dhatter: hmm... doesn't look too bad... what's the name of that file? Jul 11 08:51:54 If I build both a jffs2 rootfs (which uses the DEVICE_TABLE stuff to create the initial devices) and a .tar.gz rootfs image, how do I get the initial devices to appear in the .tar.gz rootfs image (or in the rootfs on disk when I untar it ready to boot to it) ? Jul 11 08:52:35 rwhitby: untar as root Jul 11 08:52:52 hrw: did that - the devices don't get into the .tar.gz in the first place. Jul 11 08:52:54 florian: err. i kinda just made that file up for an prototype embedded linux router we are making. Jul 11 08:53:14 florian: want to see the vrblade-image.bb file? Jul 11 08:53:18 hrw: what determines whether the .tar.gz image has devices in it or not? Jul 11 08:54:09 florian: i forgot to tell you that there used to be a DEPENDS = "vrblade-image" around the top part Jul 11 08:54:39 florian: but i removed it because i'm kinda testing some things. Jul 11 08:54:41 rwhitby: fakerooting of tar during archiving iirc Jul 11 08:54:59 florian: the problem occurs on line 23. because the cpio image isn't built yet. Jul 11 08:55:34 m9dhatter: yes, maybe paste the message and image file as well. Jul 11 08:56:09 m9dhatter cannt you point to the directory? Jul 11 08:56:31 woglinde: directory of what? Jul 11 08:56:41 for the cpio Jul 11 08:56:58 kernel takes cpio initramfscompatfile list or dirs Jul 11 09:00:21 woglinde, florian: http://pastebin.com/d798cf659 http://pastebin.com/d1b53402b Jul 11 09:01:12 m9dhatter so my idea was configure the kernel build the image and then the kernel Jul 11 09:01:20 woglinde: the cpio file is created by vrblade-image.bb but vrblade-linux doesn't call vrblade-image in its entirety. do_rootfs isnt called. Jul 11 09:01:32 ah okay Jul 11 09:02:10 woglinde: if i do bitbake vrblade-image && bitbake vrblade-linux, it executes fine. Jul 11 09:03:07 what if you put DEPENDS line in there? Jul 11 09:03:14 in kernel receipe Jul 11 09:03:33 have you modules Jul 11 09:03:38 than you are in torubles Jul 11 09:03:46 egg hen problem Jul 11 09:03:50 woglinde: yep. the DEPENDS line was originally there. i only removed it during testing. i placed it back. no modules. Jul 11 09:04:07 why did you remove it? Jul 11 09:04:45 woglinde: because its not building anyway and im trying a few things just to make it work Jul 11 09:05:13 m9dhatter hm I maybay you need to kernel recipes Jul 11 09:05:20 one for build the kernel Jul 11 09:05:29 and one for build kernel with the initramfs Jul 11 09:05:44 woglinde: what are kernel recipies and how do i make em? Jul 11 09:06:00 woglinde: isnt vrblade-linux a kernel recipie already? Jul 11 09:06:14 m9dhatter yes Jul 11 09:06:26 I would take this one to build the kernel Jul 11 09:06:29 then image Jul 11 09:06:39 and than an other recpie to build kernel with initramfs Jul 11 09:06:51 woglinde: but the kernel build will fail without the initramfs.. Jul 11 09:07:13 as I said put a directory in that can be empty Jul 11 09:07:24 oh Jul 11 09:07:34 or a initramfsfilelist which only made one file Jul 11 09:07:36 interesting. Jul 11 09:07:40 yes Jul 11 09:08:00 I I tried to build a nfsroot pcmcia initramfs Jul 11 09:08:02 build with an empty file? will that work? :p Jul 11 09:08:13 so I read tons documentation about initramfs Jul 11 09:08:21 I guess no Jul 11 09:08:26 but try Jul 11 09:08:34 * rwhitby thinks that USE_DEVFS might have something to do with his problem Jul 11 09:08:55 whithby? Jul 11 09:09:10 woglinde: my problem, not yours Jul 11 09:09:52 oh Jul 11 09:09:55 :) Jul 11 09:10:06 XorA: ERROR: '/home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/libsigc++-2.0/libsigc++-2.0_2.0.6.bb' failed Jul 11 09:10:16 XorA: can you check with your 2.61 builddir? Jul 11 09:10:36 woglinde: i agree that an empty cpio file would probably build the kernel successfully but wont that still execute do_rootfs after BOTH kernel builds? Jul 11 09:11:42 woglinde: or am i horribly misunderstanding your solution? Jul 11 09:11:58 /home/gg/zaurus/build-terrier/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/m4:configure.ac:89: ERROR: recursion limit of 1024 exceeded, use -L to change it Jul 11 09:12:01 m9dhatter hm hrw maybee =knows better Jul 11 09:12:03 hrw: that was for you Jul 11 09:12:07 if it possible Jul 11 09:12:22 after do?rootfs to build another package Jul 11 09:12:23 XorA: same here Jul 11 09:12:54 hrw: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libsigc++/2.0/LATEST-IS-2.0.17 Jul 11 09:13:10 more rotten packages in OE? Jul 11 09:14:49 woglinde: it seems that bitbake *always* execute do_rootfs last after all DEPENDS and RDEPENDS. if this is true, then the easiest way for me to build my kernel is to do bitbake vrblade-image && bitbake vrblade-linux separately. :D Jul 11 09:16:02 m9dhatter yes Jul 11 09:16:23 I thought you want a solution where you only dit one bitnake Jul 11 09:16:31 XorA: sure Jul 11 09:16:32 woglinde: i did. seems impossible Jul 11 09:16:48 woglinde: or if possible, im going to jump through hoops Jul 11 09:17:10 woglinde: hoops doused with fire Jul 11 09:17:16 lol Jul 11 09:18:45 hrw: 2.0.17 passes configure, barfs on C++ error on compile Jul 11 09:19:07 m9dhatter: sorry, had a phonecall... Jul 11 09:19:27 re florian :) Jul 11 09:20:00 m9dhatter: you have RDEPENDS but no DEPENDS in your image bb. Jul 11 09:20:02 :-) Jul 11 09:20:38 florian: tried DEPENDS, RDEPENDS, DEPENDS *with* RDEPENDS. Jul 11 09:21:02 R stands for runtime Jul 11 09:21:04 florian: any RDEPENDS = "vrblade-image" on vrblade-linux.bb will fail. Jul 11 09:21:08 I learnd yesterday Jul 11 09:21:19 DEPENDS is for building Jul 11 09:21:28 RDEPENDS for build and install? Jul 11 09:21:34 i think i read that somewhere Jul 11 09:21:36 no R for RUNTIME Jul 11 09:22:02 it fails miserably saying no runtime builds for vrblade-image Jul 11 09:22:10 so i used DEPENDS. Jul 11 09:22:24 m9dhatter: you need to depend on that task bb that pull in all the dependencies. Jul 11 09:23:03 florian: it has no problem pulling deps. its the image that isn't built before the kernel is configured. Jul 11 09:23:42 florian: do_rootfs is executed after all DEPENDS and RDEPENDS. if there is a way to force it to execute before vrblade-linux.bb, i would like to know Jul 11 09:23:58 XorA: argh Jul 11 09:24:28 m9dhatter: ah ok, then you need to make sure your kernel is in the depends somewhere. do you set the preferred provider for virtual/kernel in your machine configuration? Jul 11 09:25:20 florian: actually, the nothing depends on the kernel. the kernel depends on the image. very unlike most linux.bb files Jul 11 09:25:23 m9dhatter: and make sure that you rebuild task-vrblade as well if you change this. Jul 11 09:26:03 m9dhatter: hmm... why this way around? usually the kernel (or some modules at least) go into the image Jul 11 09:26:38 florin initramfs Jul 11 09:26:39 florian: yep. this is definitely unusual. we use initramfs. the fs is embedded in the kernel. Jul 11 09:26:57 hm iam silly Jul 11 09:27:09 ah i see... Jul 11 09:27:10 it seems that OE is unfriendly towards initramfs. :p Jul 11 09:27:11 m9dahtter look initramfs-image.bb Jul 11 09:27:20 I totally forget this Jul 11 09:27:21 its mostly empty. :p Jul 11 09:28:02 i forgot to mention that task-vrblade is just task-boot without the kernel dependency. :D Jul 11 09:28:16 I am trying to build ecore-native. Anybody understand what is missing from http://paste.stgraber.org/2071 ? Jul 11 09:28:28 because its the chicken,egg,crossing-street problem. Jul 11 09:28:40 laibsch X11 Jul 11 09:28:46 -dev Jul 11 09:28:54 OK Jul 11 09:29:24 look at package splitting which libs-dev is really needed Jul 11 09:30:12 woglinde: What package is that exactly? Jul 11 09:30:52 laibsch let me see Jul 11 09:31:19 m9dhatter: ok i see... then somethign pulls in your kernel and it is built before the image, right? Jul 11 09:31:20 libx11-dev? Jul 11 09:31:37 no Jul 11 09:32:25 laibsch cross compiling? Jul 11 09:32:28 or native? Jul 11 09:32:50 m9dhatter: I can imagine how that happens... you maybe need some kernel modules in that image. Jul 11 09:32:51 woglinde: Just "bitbake ecore-native" which fails. Thus cross-compiling. Jul 11 09:32:54 hey lrg Jul 11 09:32:57 Laibsch: it is a native app, we quitly assume X11 headers being installed Jul 11 09:33:10 zecke: ! Jul 11 09:33:22 florian: hi? Greenphone progress? Jul 11 09:33:37 laibsch -> xorg-headers-native.bb Jul 11 09:33:53 florian: i intended to just bitbake vrblade-linux and have it depend on vrblade-image. but eventhough vrblade-image is built, the image file isnt created yet. Jul 11 09:34:10 zecke: a very little bit - ordered a rs232 line driver for it. Jul 11 09:34:23 hehe the good old max232 Jul 11 09:34:23 line driver? Jul 11 09:34:25 hey florian Jul 11 09:34:26 florian: there are no modules. everything is static so it shouldn't be a problem. Jul 11 09:34:32 oh okay Jul 11 09:34:58 Damn parted needs another version of autoconf Jul 11 09:35:01 zecke: no, this one does not work properly with 3v... we have hundereds of this one here. Jul 11 09:35:04 zecke: I don't think it is listed in RequiredSoftware Jul 11 09:35:09 woglinde: Thanks! Jul 11 09:35:12 blizzard ask xora/hrw Jul 11 09:35:19 they working on it Jul 11 09:35:28 florian: tell me more Jul 11 09:35:44 laibsch I am proud to be a search monkey Jul 11 09:35:48 woglinde: a small ic - it more or less converts the ttl signal level to 12v used by rs232. Jul 11 09:36:15 florian yes as zecke mentioned max232 I understand it Jul 11 09:36:33 woglinde: and he said max232 doesn't work, and I wonder why Jul 11 09:36:36 m9dhatter: check your task if it maybe pulls in some kernel related stuff. Jul 11 09:36:55 * Laibsch makes a note about woglinde's last comment for future profit Jul 11 09:36:57 florian: task-vrblade = task-boot - kernel dep Jul 11 09:36:58 zecke: it needs 5v Jul 11 09:37:13 florian: right, and we took that from USB :) Jul 11 09:38:30 florian, woglinde: its late and i'm going to clock out now. thanks for all the time, attention and help. :) Jul 11 09:39:28 florian, woglinde: i'll just stick with 2 separate bitbakes for now until OE becomes initramfs friendly. Jul 11 09:39:57 m9dhatter as I said look at initramfs-image.bb Jul 11 09:40:02 *sigh* to late Jul 11 09:40:54 zecke: and where did you get 5v signal level? ;) Jul 11 09:44:27 florian: sorry? I thought I need the 5V only for the voltage pump Jul 11 09:46:17 zecke: I thought the same but the hardware guys here told me something different. Jul 11 10:14:28 hm is there a reason why freetype is sticked at older vserions? Jul 11 10:42:02 XorA: can you forward me mickeyl's mail about guadec? I lost it Jul 11 10:43:09 hrw: which email? Jul 11 10:43:34 hm noanswer about freetype? Jul 11 10:43:42 hrw: hrw addr to send for you I mean Jul 11 10:43:51 XorA: openembedded@hrw.one.pl Jul 11 10:45:53 hrw: oops, I didnt realise there was a new mail just arrived, Ill send the right one Jul 11 10:46:27 np Jul 11 10:47:44 he mickezl Jul 11 10:48:09 hi woxlinde Jul 11 10:48:10 * woglinde fragt jetzt nicht die bestimmte frage Jul 11 10:48:21 aargh, right Jul 11 10:48:28 nee nicht die Jul 11 10:48:32 nein? Jul 11 10:48:34 sonder? Jul 11 10:48:38 die haette mit heute zu tun\ Jul 11 10:48:50 aber eine habe ich noch Jul 11 10:48:56 die kannste vielleicht beantworten Jul 11 10:49:11 warum die freetzpe version auf so ne alte version gesticked ist Jul 11 10:49:21 args englisches keyboard Jul 11 10:49:32 hehe, btw. you realize we're in #oe, right? :D Jul 11 10:49:48 dmanit Jul 11 10:49:58 I need lunch Jul 11 10:54:43 anyway, to answer your question. most of the times, the reason why we use an old version is that no one bothered to update. Jul 11 10:54:55 or was scared Jul 11 10:55:03 freetype is almost a base package nowadays for everything UI Jul 11 10:55:10 so we have to take care everything still works Jul 11 10:55:13 hm freetype got serval security fixes Jul 11 10:55:37 I'm all for updating. just make a test run with GPE and E Jul 11 10:55:44 than we have to low manpower to test Jul 11 10:55:45 if these still work, it should be ok Jul 11 10:57:17 E is for enlightment? Jul 11 11:03:47 yes Jul 11 11:04:09 okay Jul 11 11:06:03 E is for entertainment Jul 11 11:06:21 he lorn Jul 11 11:06:33 or perhaps Extended development period :) Jul 11 11:06:57 ljp: hey Jul 11 11:07:09 lorn is there a bug with battery on grepphone Jul 11 11:07:15 my got very hot yesterday Jul 11 11:08:00 ya, TAT table gets blown away, we have a general fix for that.. Jul 11 11:08:43 hm happend as it run low Jul 11 11:09:00 was it plugged in? Jul 11 11:09:06 now Jul 11 11:09:38 I will ask Aaron if the full flash has a replacement TAT Jul 11 11:09:43 battery status was at one bar Jul 11 11:09:50 hmmm Jul 11 11:09:52 than I was at home Jul 11 11:09:56 took it out Jul 11 11:10:02 didnt switch on Jul 11 11:10:06 never heard it getting hot when using battery Jul 11 11:10:07 and was very hot Jul 11 11:10:19 but at one tim at loading it was hot too Jul 11 11:10:41 yeah thats why was a littele bit confused Jul 11 11:10:54 thought It was broken Jul 11 11:11:08 hmmm Jul 11 11:11:14 odd. Jul 11 11:11:35 yes Jul 11 11:12:04 okay I need lunch\ Jul 11 11:12:06 nye Jul 11 11:12:06 we have only seen battery getting hot when charging or leaving it plugged in. Jul 11 11:12:08 bye Jul 11 11:25:28 hmm, who added qemu 0.9 ? Jul 11 11:25:52 NOTE: Applying patch 'configure-0.9.0.patch' Jul 11 11:25:52 NOTE: Task failed: Error: /home/oe/openmoko-oe.dev/org.openembedded.dev/packages/qemu/files/./configure-0.9.0.patch not found. Jul 11 11:30:10 ljp: by your logic one should use WIndows. You have the headers of it and it is developed by the biggest software company in the world. They have the resources every month trolltech has used in the last 15 years :) Jul 11 11:34:49 i keep hearing people complain aboutthe lack of phone libraries, yet no one puts money where their mouth is, so to speak Jul 11 11:36:10 ljp: well, we work on libgsmd. We work on OpenMoko. :) Jul 11 11:36:30 ljp: You might find it funny but the primary usage of a phone is doing basic phone stuff Jul 11 11:36:57 ljp: 98.4563% of all controlled experiments came to that conclusion Jul 11 11:37:37 seems to me you could have a more working phone in less time and code if someone would write qtopia phone libraries Jul 11 11:37:39 ljp: advertising a phone, which will lose phone caps when people rebuild software, as free software platform is just funny :) Jul 11 11:38:49 caps? Jul 11 11:39:07 capabilities Jul 11 11:39:50 free + binaries Jul 11 11:40:11 its open source. the point is, anyone can write anything for it, including phone libraries Jul 11 11:40:48 seems like most people are takers not givers Jul 11 11:41:06 ljp: Basic Human Nature. Jul 11 11:41:25 and then complain about not getting enough. Jul 11 11:41:27 ljp: Seems like you living in a strange small world Jul 11 11:41:40 uhh, no Jul 11 11:41:46 ljp: well, why should I get locked in just to be able to write a free replacment to be free again? Jul 11 11:42:44 seems like osme people just have their heads up their asses Jul 11 11:43:16 * stefan_schmidt leave when the insulting starts. Jul 11 11:43:22 ljp: Well, what you are advertising is the Microsoft strategy. They do what they want, release some header files and mono and wine people start implementing what ever microsoft thinks is right Jul 11 11:43:44 ljp: and you know it is a stupid idea, every one knows it. If you s/Microsoft/Trolltech/ it remains a stupid idea :) Jul 11 11:43:56 excuse me, MS doesnt give away 98% of their code Jul 11 11:44:47 ljp: right, only 97.835% :) Jul 11 11:44:58 uh huh Jul 11 11:45:00 * * OE Bug 2640 has been created by xyzaid(AT)yahoo.fr Jul 11 11:45:02 * * e17 screen shifted left Jul 11 11:45:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2640 Jul 11 11:45:27 i am just tired of the double standards in the community Jul 11 11:45:40 ljp: lorn, I know you have a paid opinion. But don't advertise something as free when it is not, and people get locked in Jul 11 11:46:02 ljp: there are no double standards, I find having an AGPS module completely stupid, it just wastes the battery life time Jul 11 11:46:03 what part of GPL is not free? Jul 11 11:46:20 ljp: what part of the empty set is not free. it is a tautology Jul 11 11:46:57 if you dont like not having qtopia phone libraries, do something about it Jul 11 11:46:58 ljp: It's easy. The people who're fanatical enough to care about free vs. Free are the ones who are also fanatical enough to contribute. Therefore, the majority of those who will contribute will pick a more Free (LGPL/BSD) project over one that is less (GPL) Jul 11 11:47:14 ljp: can I use my SMS Application on a different hardware? No I can't. I could write my own SMS libraries but why should I start with Qtopia if I can do my own thing? Jul 11 11:47:44 because qtopia GPL is 99% finished Jul 11 11:47:54 ljp: I do so. I send patches, write code (even C and Gtk+) and heavily advertise OpenMoko Jul 11 11:48:07 no, most people only contribute their opinions, not code Jul 11 11:48:22 ljp: you know that this is a stinking lie. Grab an emulator image, make Qtopia work, as it is 99% done you can show something by tomorrow morning? Jul 11 11:48:54 depends on what device Jul 11 11:48:59 * XorA doesnt think #oe is the right venue for this argument Jul 11 11:50:10 ljp: Also, to be perfectly honest, the 'entitlement' attitude comes off as counter-productive - i.e. "I wrote this why won't the community finish it for me?! We need library X and library Y!" Jul 11 11:50:24 ljp: If you think the Neo would be better with Qtopia: Grab the emulator image, poke with it, integrate your Qtopia test it. trolltech has one of my Neo's make use of it! Jul 11 11:53:02 trolltech munich has it Jul 11 11:53:35 ljp: you have an emulator, that runs the same kernel as the device Jul 11 11:53:43 ljp: and it is 100% free Jul 11 11:54:52 ljp: you can always visit the munich office for a hacking session? Jul 11 11:55:09 ljp: I'm sure you have budget for such activities benefiting your image Jul 11 11:55:34 * ljp is no longer interested in 30 hour plane flights Jul 11 11:56:04 which is one reason i am not community manager Jul 11 11:56:06 I guess *that* we can all understand =) Jul 11 12:14:03 ljp: by the way what is your creative friday project? Jul 11 12:44:40 hi hrw Jul 11 12:46:50 hi summatusmentis Jul 11 12:50:55 hrw: is there a more in depth tutorial as to how OE works w/ images, and all the stuff needed in an image? Jul 11 12:51:25 I'm interested in getting angstrom-e-image back to 'working' status, but I have no clue as to where to start, etc. Jul 11 12:52:36 summatusmentis: build it, boot it. then fix it on device and get fixes back to OE Jul 11 12:52:51 then build new image, boot it - if it works then you fixed it Jul 11 12:53:47 hrw: lol, ok. I didn't know if there was some description of the various variables, or whatever else OE uses internally Jul 11 12:55:35 summatusmentis: basically you want PACKAGE_INSTALL and RDEPENDS Jul 11 12:55:57 ok, thanks :-) Jul 11 13:01:23 re Jul 11 13:14:11 hi henryk Jul 11 13:14:19 re Jul 11 14:03:26 hi all Jul 11 14:04:22 im attempting to build bootstrap-image using bitbake and i've got errors on task 747 of 1367 : cp: cannot stat `stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/alsa/alsa-states/*.state' : No such file or directory Jul 11 14:04:37 Summmmy`: distro? machine? Jul 11 14:04:45 akita, angstrom Jul 11 14:06:01 argh Jul 11 14:06:04 ~curse mickeyl Jul 11 14:06:05 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mickeyl ! Jul 11 14:06:12 ~curse mickeyl twice Jul 11 14:06:13 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mickeyl twice ! Jul 11 14:06:37 any ideas? Jul 11 14:07:13 vi tasks/task-base.bb and remove alsa-states line Jul 11 14:07:36 hrw : im new to this, but is that ok to do? Jul 11 14:07:54 do that and tell does it help Jul 11 14:08:00 ok Jul 11 14:14:22 morning Jul 11 14:27:09 hrw : if i comment out alsa-states from RRECOMMENDS, then i get errors: ERROR: No providers of runtime build target #alsa-states (for ['/stuff/org.opemembedded.dev/packages/tasks/task-base.bb'] Jul 11 14:27:39 remove not comment Jul 11 14:28:11 Good afternoon Jul 11 14:29:28 ~oemirrors Jul 11 14:29:29 somebody said oemirrors was extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jul 11 14:29:40 hi, all! Jul 11 14:31:21 hi slapin Jul 11 14:34:42 any ideas on more or less fast way to check which module packages are required to be installed for whole chain to be there, and which ones correlate with task-base things? Jul 11 14:37:34 alsa-states fails. Jul 11 14:38:16 anyone elase having trouble pulling? Jul 11 14:38:21 Crofton|laptop: use a mirror Jul 11 14:38:39 grr, now I have to learn a new command ... Jul 11 14:38:50 and more importantly, why do we have alsa-states and alsa-state in monotone? does anyone even check this shit? Jul 11 14:40:15 blame mickey|bbl Jul 11 14:40:27 brb Jul 11 14:40:49 thanks XorA , that was not even painful :) Jul 11 14:44:21 im stuck here, cant build bootstrap-image because of alsa-states, how much should i commend out? Jul 11 14:49:11 Summmmy`: in task-base.bb after RRECOMMENDS_task-base-alsa = "\ remove the line alsa-states \ Jul 11 14:49:49 mrdata : remove or comment out? Jul 11 14:50:20 Summmmy`: also comment out works by me -> # alsa-states Jul 11 14:50:36 Summmmy`: but i remove the last \ in this line Jul 11 14:51:13 Summmmy`: but it may be better to remove the whole line to be save Jul 11 14:51:39 mrdata : sec, ill just try that Jul 11 14:51:59 Summmmy`: i had the same error 5 min before Jul 11 14:53:20 mrdata : lol Jul 11 14:53:20 next xorg-server kdrive will not compile by me Jul 11 14:53:28 Summmmy`: what? Jul 11 14:53:46 my xorg-server problem? Jul 11 14:53:52 mrdata : just that you had the same error :) lucky me. Jul 11 14:54:31 mrdata : which task is xorg-server kdrive? Jul 11 14:55:05 Summmmy`: xserver-kdrive Jul 11 14:56:14 hrw : thx Jul 11 14:56:32 hrw : you had much fun with Neo phone? Jul 11 14:56:46 not quite Jul 11 14:58:00 hrw : how come? Jul 11 14:58:25 lack of keys make it hard to use Jul 11 14:58:33 I also do not like thick case Jul 11 15:00:01 hrw : shame, it looked promising Jul 11 15:00:13 it is promising Jul 11 15:00:22 I just do not like few things in it Jul 11 15:00:30 but it is great hacking device Jul 11 15:02:44 Can anyone tell me what the best way is to have the hwclock initscript start at startup? Jul 11 15:03:22 hwclock comes from busybox and I guess the initscript is not added to bootup there for a good reason. Jul 11 15:06:45 something like DISTRO_EXTRA_INITSCRIPT Jul 11 15:37:57 hmmmm can get to the website :( Jul 11 15:38:07 s/can/can't Jul 11 15:56:57 chouimat, i could Jul 11 16:23:33 ~oemirrors Jul 11 16:23:34 i heard oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jul 11 16:52:27 drw: ping Jul 11 16:54:19 hey, likewise ! :) Jul 11 16:54:22 whee Jul 11 16:54:22 welcome back :> Jul 11 16:55:13 hi likewise Jul 11 16:57:10 hey all! Jul 11 16:57:16 feels good to be back Jul 11 16:57:42 so what's new? :-) Jul 11 16:57:54 openmoko.com Jul 11 16:57:55 *g* Jul 11 16:58:18 my colleague across me just ordered a phone Jul 11 16:58:31 I'll wait for a wifi version :P Jul 11 16:58:40 and USB 2.0 would be nice too Jul 11 16:58:42 agreed ;-) Jul 11 16:58:45 on both Jul 11 16:58:49 =) Jul 11 16:59:16 * chouimat will wait for the free version (as in 0$) ... I know I'm cheap :) Jul 11 16:59:24 hehe Jul 11 16:59:55 well, 300USD is actually quite ok if compared to phones when you buy them without contract Jul 11 17:00:08 right Jul 11 17:00:11 I am not sure how customs are handled when ordering the phone to the EU Jul 11 17:00:27 Jin^eLD: $100 shipping costs Jul 11 17:00:29 you mean vat? Jul 11 17:00:38 Jin^eLD: and i can tell about his experiences soon Jul 11 17:00:47 Jin^eLD: and the problem will or might be to get the phone company give your the right to use it ... Jul 11 17:00:49 woglinde: vat *plus* import taxes Jul 11 17:00:49 hi mr_nice Jul 11 17:00:58 likewise: well shipping is not such a big issue, about 4 people here want to order so we can divide the shipping costs Jul 11 17:00:58 hi woglinde Jul 11 17:01:05 chouimat?why? Jul 11 17:01:15 put sim card in and phone Jul 11 17:01:19 europe is quite fine Jul 11 17:01:37 woglinde: vat is just tax right? I mean customs, when importing goods from abroad Jul 11 17:01:58 jinled yes vat for importing in germany 19% Jul 11 17:02:00 woglinde: north america companies are quite territorial if they don't sell the phone they might just tell you to go f* yourself Jul 11 17:02:02 chouimat: why would I even ask my operator? :) it's a GSM phone, so as woglinde said - just put in the sim card :P Jul 11 17:02:07 choiumat I know Jul 11 17:02:13 woglinde: is VAT the mehrwertsteuer? Jul 11 17:02:18 jineled right Jul 11 17:02:30 woglinde: what I mean is "zoll" Jul 11 17:02:36 Jin^eLD: prepaid card? Jul 11 17:02:46 chouimat: yeah, I don't plan on asking whatever carrier I go with for it Jul 11 17:03:06 chouimat: no, I have a sim-only contract here; I never sign up for two years or crap like that, I want to be able to cancel the contract at any time, so I always buy my own hardware Jul 11 17:03:18 jineld hm I think only vat and you are gone Jul 11 17:03:25 but dont know for sure Jul 11 17:03:30 Jin^eLD: ok a monthly contract :) Jul 11 17:03:47 if you have bad luck you must go to the toll and get it there Jul 11 17:03:51 chouimat: well its more like "as long as you wish" contract, but I can cancell it on a montly bases :) Jul 11 17:04:12 Jin^eLD: sound like a good idea :) Jul 11 17:04:12 woglinde: well, why VAT when importing stuff? how does duty free work? :) Jul 11 17:04:34 chouimat: yes.. considering the price battles here, I just wait for another carrier to become cheaper :> Jul 11 17:04:40 jineld dont askme Jul 11 17:04:46 woglinde :) Jul 11 17:05:22 Jin^eLD: hehe ... it's the same in canada ;) Jul 11 17:05:33 =) Jul 11 17:06:10 hmmmm look like the thunderstorm will soon be here ... yay ... COLD FRONT :) Jul 11 17:07:13 choiumat it was already here Jul 11 17:10:20 passed through here yesterday evening... Jul 11 17:16:45 ~mirror Jul 11 17:16:48 ~mirrors Jul 11 17:16:49 extra, extra, read all about it, mirrors is Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp://ftp..debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. A list is available at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official/ Jul 11 17:17:36 I am in #debian? Jul 11 17:17:50 ~oemirrors Jul 11 17:17:59 i guess oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jul 11 17:18:06 thanks zero Jul 11 17:18:12 np Jul 11 17:21:02 when i attempt to build the altboot-console-image i get an error: ERROR: No providers of build target altboot-console-image (for []) Jul 11 17:21:36 whoops, wrong channel :) Jul 11 17:22:16 anyone building for x86_64 targets? Jul 11 17:44:06 zecke: pong Jul 11 17:44:55 woglinde: Thanks for pointing me to henryk yesterday. I've got it working now. Jul 11 17:49:24 drw: have you started to judge GP apps yet? Jul 11 17:59:43 re Jul 11 18:01:45 wb Jul 11 18:09:00 anyone available to discuss a problem i'm having with gpe-image failing to build ? Jul 11 18:24:21 Hi Jul 11 18:37:15 hey folks, does anyone here use the OE forums at this site? http://www.oesf.org/forums/ Jul 11 18:37:35 i have been trying for ages to get a registered user name here Jul 11 18:50:33 ~oesf Jul 11 18:50:33 rumour has it, oesf is rumour has it, oesf is newer name of ZUG - it provides forum for Zaurus/Ipaq/Simpad/etc users (see zug). It has nothing in common with OpenEmbedded (except for the first two letters), see http://www.oesf.org/ Jul 11 18:58:06 Crofton|home: hmmm, ok, so is there a more appropriate forum online? Jul 11 19:00:01 how do i get bitbake to build all dependencies for a task (like task-openmoko-native-sdk)? Jul 11 19:00:36 Shoragan, build the task? Jul 11 19:02:04 task-openmoko-native-sdk is defined in task-openmoko.bb... and it can only build task-openmoko, for task-openmoko-native-sdk it tells me "ERROR: Nothing provides dependency task-openmoko-native-sdk" Jul 11 19:04:47 well, I don't know then :) Jul 11 19:16:22 hmmm, roundtrip to Brussells for last weekend in Feb is $571 atm Jul 11 19:16:35 of course I have to leave on Tuesday or Thursday b4 Jul 11 19:38:12 * kergoth finally gets around to applying some submitted tslib patches Jul 11 19:52:17 hmm.. great. i am the tslib guy at TT who get to 'help' tslib emails Jul 11 19:55:03 ljp: haha, tslib has plugins you don't need to filter yourself. The calibration method in QtE is not complete. it only calculates half of the matrix and doesn't work on all touchscreens Jul 11 19:56:11 thats because ts handling is linear only in qt Jul 11 19:56:28 sensd us a non linear ts device and we might fix this Jul 11 19:57:14 the jitter filters in qt are different as well Jul 11 19:57:40 i think there was some changes recerntly to main in this regard.. Jul 11 19:59:28 or maybe that had to do with an int overflow :) Jul 11 20:11:52 re Jul 11 20:13:18 I'm going home Jul 11 21:02:11 ~oemirrors Jul 11 21:02:12 rumour has it, oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jul 11 21:03:12 can I bitbake multiple packages at the same time? Jul 11 21:04:48 summatusmentis, just use something like 'bitbake cvs bash ...' Jul 11 21:05:13 Shoragan: alright, that's what I was wondering Jul 11 21:05:14 thanks Jul 11 21:08:52 hi psokolovsky Jul 11 21:12:33 night all Jul 11 21:12:35 woglinde: hi, Do you have any idea why the qte 2.3.10 build in OE would fail to build? It looks like it is expecting to have built a "moc" executable for the build host, but there's not one there. Jul 11 21:13:07 hi Jul 11 21:19:39 jseghers: need to also build uicmoc package, if it doesn;t automagically do it Jul 11 21:20:28 ljp: thank you! I'll give that a try. Jul 11 21:24:44 does qemu in OE still require gcc 3.x to be installed? Jul 11 21:25:55 cbrake_: my understanding is "yes". Fortunately, Ubuntu has packages for it that will install it in parallel quite nicely :) Jul 11 21:26:32 jseghers: from the recipe is looks that way. I thought I heard that gcc 4 worked -- doing a little more research ... Jul 11 21:31:27 cbrake_: should work Jul 11 21:32:43 psokolovsky: there is still a bunch of gcc-3.x stuff in qemu-native.inc. Is that still needed? Jul 11 21:33:21 well, need to look, not now Jul 11 21:33:25 good night Jul 11 21:33:36 I think at least the latest qemu with fixes for amd64 didn't work for me without gcc3 Jul 11 21:33:37 hello all Jul 11 21:33:38 ~oemirrors Jul 11 21:33:39 hmm... oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jul 11 21:34:16 where do we push now, btw? I've just pushed to ewi, I think. Jul 11 21:36:12 openembedded is down? Jul 11 21:36:20 somewhat Jul 11 21:36:22 again? Jul 11 21:36:24 * Laibsch checks Jul 11 21:36:35 or just dead slow? Jul 11 21:36:41 what kind of machine is that anyway? Jul 11 21:36:43 do you mean http? Jul 11 21:36:53 yup, too long to respond on http Jul 11 21:36:59 I think it's dead slow Jul 11 21:37:13 but when I say "dead" - I mean it :) Jul 11 21:37:58 still no connection via ssh Jul 11 21:38:30 OK, I'm in Jul 11 21:39:08 load again close to 100 Jul 11 21:39:13 as expected Jul 11 21:40:10 uhh Jul 11 21:40:17 what is it doing so hard? Jul 11 21:41:42 I think pondering the misconfigurations Jul 11 21:41:55 The machine was and still is a mess admin-wise Jul 11 21:42:18 I cleaned it up a bit, but there is still a lot of things going wrong Jul 11 21:42:39 For example there are three instances of postgresql on the machine, 7-4, 8.1 and 8.2 Jul 11 21:48:00 * * OE Bug 2641 has been created by marek.vasut(AT)gmail.com Jul 11 21:48:02 * * svn.sf.net renamed to project.svn.sf.net Jul 11 21:48:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2641 Jul 11 21:49:53 ~curse sourceforge Jul 11 21:49:54 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, sourceforge ! Jul 11 21:51:23 I think ltg should be back up. Let's see for how long Jul 11 21:53:52 good luck on the server, I'm off to bed. Jul 11 21:53:56 gnite all Jul 11 22:04:12 and all three postgreses are in use? Jul 11 22:04:34 polyonymous: I don't know Jul 11 22:04:38 ok :) Jul 11 22:04:39 florian knows Jul 11 22:04:55 It took a big effort to mess this one up so thoroughly ;-) Jul 11 22:05:36 well, sometimes it makes sense to have a couple of postgreses, but 8.1 and 8.2 - sounds like someone just didn't have time to migrate data. Jul 11 22:13:18 hm newer libxml2 seems to fix the xslt bug Jul 11 22:15:44 then it wasn't xslt bug? :) What was the bug, btw? Jul 11 22:16:14 hm Jul 11 22:16:18 dont know anymore Jul 11 22:16:26 its gone Jul 11 22:16:34 ah hm Jul 11 22:16:44 gzopen64 not found in libxml.so Jul 11 22:17:06 polyonymous should I push it? Jul 11 22:17:30 ah buildtime bug. Well, sounds like not xslt bug :)) Jul 11 22:17:35 and why do you ask me? :) Jul 11 22:17:38 jepp Jul 11 22:17:46 but happend at xslt Jul 11 22:17:48 build Jul 11 22:18:02 so I called xlst bug Jul 11 22:18:07 I have built xslt, I believe about a year ago last time :) Jul 11 22:18:12 At least intentionally :) Jul 11 22:18:22 hm no X images? Jul 11 22:18:36 because libsdl-x11 needs it Jul 11 22:18:40 woglinde, I said "intentionally" :) If x images require it, than I have. Jul 11 22:19:29 oe update politics is conservative Jul 11 22:19:32 hi Jul 11 22:19:33 *g* Jul 11 22:19:38 hi coredump Jul 11 22:20:04 woglinde, well, you can always add default preference of -1 Jul 11 22:20:13 re mickeyl Jul 11 22:20:22 alsa-state and alsa-states serve two different purposes. don't remove one of them Jul 11 22:20:28 sorry about alsa-states, fixing it now Jul 11 22:20:34 and woglinde I haven't seen the bug. Or do you build for 64bit platform? Jul 11 22:20:35 I will never touch alsa Jul 11 22:20:41 no uclibc Jul 11 22:21:19 than the only benefit from uclibc is faster compiling Jul 11 22:21:27 if all compiles and runs Jul 11 22:23:03 hm mesa is behind too Jul 11 22:30:05 okay, if i have multiple monotone keys in ~/.monotone, how do i choose what will be used when working against a given mtn db/ Jul 11 22:30:36 hmmm Jul 11 22:30:46 how did you end up with multiple keys? Jul 11 22:31:16 try mtn help push Jul 11 22:31:43 mtn list keys may be useful Jul 11 22:36:15 hm Jul 11 22:37:05 kergoth when you make pull choose the key Jul 11 22:37:19 or the login Jul 11 22:37:25 or have one login more keys? Jul 11 22:39:15 i knwe about -k, was just wondering if there was a way to set that by default for a given db Jul 11 22:39:20 * kergoth 's looking to do some oe work again Jul 11 22:39:37 naturally i lost my old keypairs, had to send the new public keys to mickeyl Jul 11 22:39:38 heh Jul 11 22:39:43 someday i'll learn to backup. Jul 11 22:39:57 oh Jul 11 22:41:17 kergoth, but if you lost your old keypair how would it interfere? Jul 11 22:41:57 it doesnt, i just generated two keys, one for oe and one for another mtn db i'm playing with Jul 11 22:42:05 ah Jul 11 22:42:10 :) Jul 11 22:42:38 It's actually somewhat silly that we have these @oe keys - if you have your real primary email then you just use the same key with all projects... Jul 11 22:42:48 yeah.. Jul 11 22:43:02 luckily I don't have any other mtn projects :) Jul 11 22:43:36 i dont have any real ones, just trying to get familiar with mtn.. i'm one of those people that has to know all the knooks and crannies of their scm tool before they're happy using it Jul 11 22:43:42 heh Jul 11 22:44:08 kergoth, I know the feeling. But can't you use your oe key with this db? Jul 11 22:44:25 kergoth I forget my password and send in new key too Jul 11 22:44:39 than I took the new -kname and pushes were fine Jul 11 22:44:40 kergoth, http://monotone.ca/docs/Hooks.html#Hooks Jul 11 22:44:46 i can, but i still wanted to know how to handle this use case :) Jul 11 22:45:02 looks like you can only do it via hook Jul 11 22:45:29 * kergoth reads Jul 11 22:46:03 oh, I can commit with author "My Name " :)) Jul 11 22:49:06 args Jul 11 22:49:08 + -I/usr/include \ Jul 11 22:49:15 woglinde, where? Jul 11 22:49:15 in a mesa.patch Jul 11 22:49:18 ah Jul 11 22:49:23 for host compiling Jul 11 22:49:29 fun Jul 11 22:49:30 that suckz Jul 11 22:49:35 even it fixes the build Jul 11 22:49:45 it shouldn't. Jul 11 22:50:12 let me see who commited it Jul 11 22:50:49 ifaistos Jul 11 22:50:53 ~seen ifaistos Jul 11 22:51:17 ifaistos was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 52d 9h 24s ago, saying: ':)'. Jul 11 22:52:06 cheshire cat - you only have his smile. Jul 11 22:53:53 does building abiword build all of it's plugins? what about gnumeric? Jul 11 23:01:55 woglinde: ping Jul 11 23:02:00 urgs Jul 11 23:52:21 ~oemirrors Jul 11 23:52:24 oemirrors is probably extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jul 12 00:10:47 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r4d01e12f... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ptim: Drop some obsolete patches. Jul 12 00:10:52 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r8bbb5937... 10/ (1 packages/m4/m4-native_1.4.8.bb): Jul 12 00:10:52 m4-native_1.4.8.bb : added version 1.4.8 which is needed by some packages Jul 12 00:10:52 using autoconf 2.61. Jul 12 00:10:52 DEFAULT_PREF = "-1" until we decide to switch to autoconf 2.61 Jul 12 00:10:56 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r340ff847... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Jul 12 00:10:56 parted 1.8.7: Make buildable with latest linux-headers. Jul 12 00:10:56 * Add an adhoc syscall macros include, and they are gone. Jul 12 00:10:58 * Also add a hacky patch to make sure that libparted build properly Jul 12 00:11:00 with autoconf 2.59, but it really requires 2.61. Jul 12 00:11:02 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r5b951be5... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Jul 12 00:11:04 gparted 0.3.3: Add GParted. Jul 12 00:11:06 * Tested to start/show partitions on a real device. Jul 12 00:11:08 * Somewhat usable even on QVGA. Jul 12 00:11:12 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra927a4d4... 10/ (1 site/common-glibc): Jul 12 00:11:14 site/common-glibc: Added ac_cv_func_malloc_0_nonnull & ac_cv_func_memcmp_working Jul 12 00:11:16 * These are assumed to be applicable for any glibc build. Jul 12 00:11:18 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8fc2f93f... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h4000.conf conf/machine/htcblueangel.conf): (log message trimmed) Jul 12 00:11:21 h4000, htcblueangel: Add pcmciautils to MACHINE_EXTRA. Jul 12 00:11:23 * These machines have ACX100 internally connected to PCMCIA, and now Jul 12 00:11:27 there's proper CardServices driver for it. At least while it is in debugging Jul 12 00:11:29 phase, it is beneficial to have pcmciautils around. Don't pcmcia to Jul 12 00:11:31 MACHINE_FEATURES, as the meaning of that is machine having full-fledges Jul 12 00:11:33 PCMCIA support, and leads to installation of several additiona packages Jul 12 00:11:35 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r38741c94... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh11.bb): (log message trimmed) Jul 12 00:11:42 linux-handhelds-2.6: Add 2.6.21-hh11. Jul 12 00:11:44 * Changes since -hh10 are: Jul 12 00:11:46 1. looxc550 port added (initial stage). Jul 12 00:11:48 2. acx: PCMCIA driver written. Jul 12 00:11:50 3. h4000, htcblueangel: PCMCIA support revamped, ACX100 WiFi works now. Jul 12 00:11:52 4. hamcop_base, samcop_base: Initial support for child devices paradigm. Jul 12 00:11:54 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r9b3f7813... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom-2007.1.conf: Use 2.6.21-hh1 for linux-handhelds-2.6. Jul 12 00:12:01 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd0b13860... 10/ (20 files in 20 dirs): Jul 12 00:12:03 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21-hh11: Update defconigs to defconfigman r343. Jul 12 00:12:05 * All devices: MTD option cleanup. Jul 12 00:12:07 * h2200: Enabled JFFS2. Jul 12 00:12:09 * h4000, htcbluangel: Enabled acx_cs. Jul 12 00:12:11 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8e097cf6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: Enable PCMCIA for ACX_CS. Jul 12 00:12:18 03xora 07org.oe.dev * raa44d626... 10/ (1 packages/evince/evince_0.9.2.bb): evince_0.9.2.bb : version bump Jul 12 00:12:21 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r832be18c... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-gta01_2.6.21.5.bb): linux-gta01: Add 2.6.21.5 from OpenMoko Jul 12 00:12:24 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r28a3e2e9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gpe-session-scripts-phone: Update session script to support gtk 2.10 and run machined. Jul 12 00:12:29 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rbeb1fc79... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/machined_svn.bb): machined: Hardware status and abstraction tool. Jul 12 00:12:34 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r06dece86... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-gta01/defconfig-2.6.21.5-fic-gta01): linux-gta01: Add defconfig for 2.6.21.5 Jul 12 00:12:37 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r1db1a8c9... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Jul 12 00:12:39 libsigc++-2.0_2.0.17.bb : version bump for this package, this builds with Jul 12 00:12:43 autoconf 2.61 Jul 12 00:12:45 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf6d34129... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): file: update 4.20 to 4.21, 4.21 contains security and build fixes for some archs Jul 12 00:12:48 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd23fc256... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): alsa-states: add dummy state Jul 12 00:19:55 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc43653bf... 10/ (18 files in 5 dirs): alsa: integrate alsa-states recipe into alsa-state Jul 12 00:26:26 hello. good day Jul 12 00:47:02 hello? Jul 12 00:47:11 hi Jul 12 01:02:23 whats the proper way to recreate an image after it was already successfully created? Jul 12 01:02:49 is rn -rf tmp/work tmp/stamps really needed? Jul 12 01:04:57 can someone remind me how to properly use DEPENDS versus RDEPENDS again Jul 12 01:05:57 i was told that DEPENDS is for buildtime and RDEPENDs is for runtime Jul 12 01:06:11 ok, that agrees with the docs Jul 12 01:06:31 I've been doing this for a while, and I still get confused at the proper usgae Jul 12 01:06:44 RDEPENDS ends up as a dependency inside the finished .ipk, DEPENDS defines dependencies required for compiling the package Jul 12 01:07:30 thanks CoreDump|afk Jul 12 01:07:41 part of my problem is I do not undertand ipk :) Jul 12 01:08:06 so -native never goes in RDEPENDS Jul 12 01:08:11 never Jul 12 01:08:26 only packages that must also be installed on the target Jul 12 01:08:40 probably expcepting shared libs Jul 12 01:08:56 correct =) Jul 12 01:09:13 I don't mind forcing install of all teh lib packages Jul 12 01:09:26 sometimes it isn't clear if there are useful tools with the libs Jul 12 01:10:12 the library dependencies are added automagically Jul 12 01:12:05 interesting, it wouldn't even let me add boost as an RDEPEND Jul 12 01:12:16 so teh so's end up in the ipk? Jul 12 01:12:28 there must be a lot of duplication ? Jul 12 01:12:53 you can always add stuff manually to REDEPEDS Jul 12 01:13:14 i had boost in RDEPENDS, but got an error Jul 12 01:13:27 maybe I spelled it rong Jul 12 01:13:36 possibly Jul 12 01:14:19 I'll check again tomorrow, building python etc atm Jul 12 01:19:17 is bootchart for x86 only? im failing to build it on mips. Jul 12 01:37:01 * * OE Bug 2498 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Jul 12 01:37:03 * *  can't run horizon due to faulty ~ path Jul 12 01:37:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2498 Jul 12 01:39:01 * * OE Bug 2495 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Jul 12 01:39:03 * *  akita backlight off after suspend. Jul 12 01:39:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2495 Jul 12 01:50:00 * * OE Bug 2642 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Jul 12 01:50:02 * * alsa-states doesn't build Jul 12 01:50:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2642 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 12 02:39:01 2007 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 12 02:59:57 2007