**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 20 02:59:56 2007 Jul 20 04:40:14 ibot, help botmail Jul 20 04:41:26 ibot, botmail for psokolovsky looks like I fixed konqueror embedded to some effort ... at least it doesnt sigsegv right after launch now :-B Jul 20 05:04:00 if i was building a program which used g+_ Jul 20 05:04:04 whoops Jul 20 05:04:09 which used g++ Jul 20 05:04:13 in its make file Jul 20 05:04:29 then would i compile with just ${CC} {LDFLAGS} etc... ? Jul 20 05:04:34 or would it be ddifferent? Jul 20 07:22:23 good morning all Jul 20 08:16:24 morning Jul 20 08:23:54 hey ade|desk koen Jul 20 08:24:03 good morning all Jul 20 08:31:04 http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/goto.png Jul 20 08:32:23 XorA|guadec: I got brutefir to build :) Jul 20 08:32:42 koen: heh heh, so an Ipaq based speaker system :-) Jul 20 08:33:06 with tiny speakers, brutefir uses 32bit or 64bit floats Jul 20 08:33:39 eeeek Jul 20 08:33:55 gonna be hard on the gumstix then Jul 20 08:34:01 looks like it Jul 20 08:34:06 better off with a couple of miniITX via boards Jul 20 08:34:15 maybe it has a fixed-point mode as well Jul 20 08:34:22 didn't look at it that close Jul 20 08:34:27 or pc104, dont need much in way of hardware Jul 20 08:34:31 (after a few IPA at 2 am) Jul 20 08:44:25 heh heh, yeah I saw your commits come into my email while I was searching for decent tv to watch Jul 20 08:44:38 BTW the old man has dissapeared Jul 20 08:45:07 maybe he got lost on his way to breakfast Jul 20 08:46:07 * koen gets angry with the bmibaby website Jul 20 08:48:02 heh hehy Jul 20 08:48:11 * XorA|guadec hates airline crappy pages Jul 20 09:05:34 * koen ponders about using u-a to replace the fftw binary with the ones linked to different precision libs Jul 20 09:14:48 * koen notices how question about 11.999kHz resampling isn't answered in bug comments Jul 20 09:16:45 lrg: 160K armv5te/brutefir_1.0i-r0_armv5te.ipk Jul 20 09:17:15 koen: cool, i'll have to try it when i'm back at work Jul 20 09:17:35 [09:32] koen: XorA|guadec: I got brutefir to build Jul 20 09:17:35 [09:32] XorA|guadec: koen: heh heh, so an Ipaq based speaker system Jul 20 09:17:35 [09:33] koen: with tiny speakers, brutefir uses 32bit or 64bit floats Jul 20 09:17:35 [09:33] XorA|guadec: eeeek Jul 20 09:17:35 [09:34] XorA|guadec: gonna be hard on the gumstix then Jul 20 09:17:36 [09:34] koen: looks like it Jul 20 09:18:19 koen: i'll try on mx31, see how it goes with the vfp Jul 20 09:18:55 * XorA|guadec will laugh if mx31 takes leaves from Intel book and the FPU is actually slower than MMX Jul 20 09:22:25 morning Jul 20 09:23:02 hey hrw Jul 20 09:31:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40a2f7c0... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fftw: start cleaning up packaging Jul 20 09:31:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r21a1600f... 10/ (1 packages/brutefir/brutefir_1.0i.bb): brutefir: add comment about makefile patch Jul 20 09:31:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb497c5d6... 10/ (1 packages/fftw/fftw.inc): fftw: checkin fftw.inc Jul 20 09:33:43 gah, I'm an idiot Jul 20 09:36:31 hwo many commits does it take to get this right? Jul 20 09:37:52 koen: tell truth, you are just cheating on maximum checkin stats Jul 20 09:37:59 ssssh! Jul 20 09:39:03 Packaged contents of libfftw into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv5te/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv5te.ipk Jul 20 09:39:52 * koen stuffs some ascii art in the commit message Jul 20 09:43:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb27e44cc... 10/ (1 packages/fftw/fftw.inc packages/fftw/fftwf_3.1.2.bb): fftw: =+ not += Jul 20 09:51:47 heh Jul 20 09:51:48 http://www.philosophiste.com/images/spoiler.jpg Jul 20 09:53:54 anybody know how to flash nokia770 with Angstrom Jul 20 09:54:06 updater.sh? Jul 20 09:54:43 with the 0xFFFF binary in the image dir Jul 20 09:55:45 xjqian: http://www.nopcode.org/0xFFFF/ Jul 20 09:57:17 koen: thanks Jul 20 09:57:28 OE should have built it for you Jul 20 09:58:01 yes, I just don't know what it's for Jul 20 10:08:45 xjqian: it is opensource flasher for nokia tablets Jul 20 10:10:40 later all Jul 20 10:10:47 * koen heads off towards airport Jul 20 10:15:13 http://storage9.myopera.com/freejerk/files/bug-feature.jpg Jul 20 10:15:22 hrw, just finished reading the link provided by koen Jul 20 10:16:16 hrw: heh heh Jul 20 10:17:17 * XorA|guadec starts getting ready to leave hotel Jul 20 10:26:55 hi paul Jul 20 10:39:09 03xora 07org.oe.dev * re010d66a... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-utils_3.12.bb): Jul 20 10:39:09 bluez-utils_3.12.bb : package alsa plugin into bluez-alsa, also fix Jul 20 10:39:09 packaging so all .debug ends up in -dbg package Jul 20 10:39:14 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r858035d0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jul 20 10:39:14 linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-h11 : fix hamcop compilation issue Jul 20 10:39:14 * fix hamcop compilation issue as reported in http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 Jul 20 10:39:14 * fixes bug #2658 Jul 20 10:39:14 * hh12 supersedes this version and works, but I thought fixing it anyway was a good idea Jul 20 10:42:17 is there anyway to tell bitbake to ignore the binaries which it has unpacked and just ignore that the archiecture differences? any way to do this appart from overriding the do_package_qa task? Jul 20 11:31:27 http://www.bononia.it/~zack/blog//posts/2007/07/python_debfile.html Jul 20 11:34:43 I hope they will push arfile upstream, because it's indeed boring for everyone to write it from scratch Jul 20 11:45:10 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re7c63857... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: Add missing defconfigs for asus730 and htchimalaya. Jul 20 12:13:08 morning Jul 20 12:14:42 in normal uk fashion all the trains are late Jul 20 12:15:43 XorA|gone: so I had luck with central trains Jul 20 12:17:37 hrw: yeah :-) Jul 20 12:17:57 hrw: they build train lines too near rivers here and they flood Jul 20 12:21:39 * XorA|gprs had forgotten the crazy names around here Jul 20 12:23:09 * XorA|gprs goes Jul 20 12:36:16 is there a way i can open a devshell over in a term on the console for over ssh instead of spawning an xterm? Jul 20 12:41:32 wirelessdreamer: sure IIRC. Check the mailing list archives Jul 20 12:52:23 hello all, im having some trouble building an application with a makefile Jul 20 12:52:34 now the makefile is running when i use oe_runmake Jul 20 12:52:49 but its creating a binary which is not of the target archicture Jul 20 12:53:14 how do i make use of the makefile which comes with the application using oe so it cross compiles? Jul 20 12:53:37 please give me a hand here, im trying to learn... Jul 20 12:53:59 HelloMrWorld: check if the Makefile explicitely sets CC or other variables Jul 20 12:54:14 HelloMrWorld: then shoot the developer, and patch the Makefile Jul 20 12:54:24 zecke : it just calls g++ then some filenames then -o output file Jul 20 12:54:35 HelloMrWorld: shoot the developer :) Jul 20 12:54:41 grrrr Jul 20 12:54:50 zecke : can you explain to me the problem? Jul 20 12:55:04 HelloMrWorld: humans -> stupid -> errors :) Jul 20 12:55:17 zecke.moreDetail() Jul 20 12:55:18 HelloMrWorld: oe_runmake passes CC, CXX, CPP, CFLAGS to the make process Jul 20 12:55:34 i see Jul 20 12:55:36 HelloMrWorld: sane Makefiles (e.g using ?=) will pick these vars Jul 20 12:55:44 HelloMrWorld: the main problem is that the hard-coded g++ is not the cross-compiler Jul 20 12:55:47 if its running a system pathed g++, aka the one you'd usually run natively thatisn't your cross compiler binary Jul 20 12:55:59 HelloMrWorld: stupid devs, that deserve to be shot, have the great idea to set CXX = g++ Jul 20 12:56:34 bah Jul 20 12:56:38 so what can i do? Jul 20 12:56:52 im attempting to port rainbowcrack Jul 20 12:56:57 HelloMrWorld: see above, man quilt, and patch the Makefile Jul 20 12:56:58 sed it and replace it with a variable you can set Jul 20 12:57:36 so make use of CC, CXX, etc? Jul 20 12:57:41 instead of g++? Jul 20 12:57:47 yes Jul 20 12:57:58 ah right Jul 20 12:58:48 ok thanks Jul 20 12:58:56 make has default values for CC, CXX, CPP, developers overriding them inside their Makefile need to be ... :) Jul 20 12:59:04 shoot Jul 20 12:59:06 twice Jul 20 12:59:06 lol Jul 20 12:59:35 but it cant be as simple as changing g++ to CC variable right? Jul 20 12:59:53 drop CXX line from makefile Jul 20 12:59:58 HelloMrWorld: reread the stuff from above Jul 20 13:00:07 everything i've worked with so far was autoconf based Jul 20 13:00:13 HelloMrWorld: we do that, but the developer that deserves to be shot decided to override the variable (last call) Jul 20 13:00:26 ah right Jul 20 13:00:58 ok ill give it a go, thanks for saving me some time :) Jul 20 13:18:10 morning all Jul 20 13:18:25 hey RP Jul 20 13:30:52 damn virgin train is blocking my gsm signals Jul 20 13:39:53 Hello, what happened to h5000 feeds? actual upgrade wants to change contents of /etc/hostname to a780... Jul 20 13:42:33 mmp: there're regular bugs like that in angstrom images/feeds ;-\ Jul 20 13:43:45 hmm, also it wanted to overwrite fstab... Jul 20 13:44:25 isn't that normal? It didn't "want to" it just asked you if you wouldn't mind. Jul 20 13:46:38 polyonymous: yes, but the fstab seemed to contain just some bare defaults... Jul 20 13:46:56 mmp, that's why you shouldn't say "yes, please overwrite". Jul 20 13:47:33 But I'm a bit afraid that this fstab is also in unofficial h5000 images, and that might cause problems... Jul 20 13:48:18 hmm... Well, I don't know a thing about actual content of h5000 fstab, but yes, normally,what upgrade tries to put is what comes with an image. Jul 20 13:48:49 And this is, indeed, very basic default, so it's not likely that you would want to overwrite your fstab. The same goes for hostname Jul 20 13:49:34 yes, but that fstab even missed things like root filesystem etc. ... (maybe I'm wrong, it was just a quick look) Jul 20 13:51:03 well, your root filesystem is already mounted, anyway ;-) Jul 20 13:51:40 I don't think it missed root fs, though Jul 20 13:52:07 I'd think this is a default fstab for h5000 http://rafb.net/p/fJeNd038.html Jul 20 13:52:55 aha, so I probably missed the first line:) Jul 20 13:53:14 sorry then... Jul 20 13:53:29 i need openssl libraries in order to build this package so i use DEPENDS += "openssl" but i get errors that it cant find /openssl/rand.c when compiling Jul 20 13:53:34 any ideas? Jul 20 13:53:38 no prob. And, as I said, you're not likely to want to overwrite your fstab Jul 20 13:53:43 03Alex 07org.oe.dev * r02f847ad... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): initramfs: Add blockboot plugin and cleanup dependency handling. Jul 20 13:53:55 HelloMrWorld, do I get it right that openssl build fails for you? Jul 20 13:54:54 * polyonymous tries to build openssl. Jul 20 13:55:55 oh wait or is it failing to find openss/rand.c when compiling "this package"? Jul 20 13:56:25 polyonymous : i mean that it doesn't seem to find openssl/rand.c Jul 20 13:56:32 says no such file or directory Jul 20 13:56:41 HelloMrWorld, the question is what's "it", though :) Jul 20 13:56:55 it = bitbake :) Jul 20 13:57:02 at which point? Jul 20 13:57:11 i altered the S variable, so maybe thats causing problems? Jul 20 13:57:22 compile Jul 20 13:57:26 do_compile* Jul 20 13:57:39 HelloMrWorld, you give no information, I can't guess everything. Jul 20 13:57:50 do_compile for "this package", not openssl, right? Jul 20 13:57:59 correct Jul 20 13:58:18 so this recipe im writing, needs openssl in order to be built Jul 20 13:58:36 but when im compiling my recipe it cant find openssl/rand.c Jul 20 13:58:39 but if it looks for openssl/rand.c - it probably means it needs openssl sources, not openssl installed/staged Jul 20 13:58:46 does that mean i must manually get openssl sources? Jul 20 13:58:50 ah Jul 20 13:59:11 so i must use SRC_URI to pull the sources? Jul 20 13:59:30 maybe. I don't know what is the package in question. But it does seem to have ill-designed build :) Jul 20 13:59:50 maybe. and likely not just that.. Jul 20 14:00:16 polyonymous : hmm i see Jul 20 14:03:25 i thought i saw a section in the oe manual on how to maintain a seperate directory with bitbake files outside of org.openembeded.dev repository so when its synced it doesn't kill other packages being worked on, anyone know where i can find that, i'm having trouble finding it Jul 20 14:04:32 wirelessdreamer, add it to BBFILES ? Jul 20 14:04:42 (I haven't read oe manual, yet) Jul 20 14:04:50 that sounds familiar :) Jul 20 14:05:16 and, in case it's not only packages you'd also want to add it to BBPATH, I'd guess, but never bothered to do it. Jul 20 14:09:52 there aren't any comments about how to add more then one, do i just need a space between them Jul 20 14:11:23 BBFILES := "${oedir}/overlay/packages/*/*.bb ${mtdir}/packages/*/*.bb" Jul 20 14:12:20 did I say anything about reflashing? Jul 20 14:12:31 * mmp just definitely messed up his jffs2 image Jul 20 14:12:51 no, not yet :) Jul 20 14:12:56 existe a metapackage to install a native development ? Jul 20 14:13:05 s/existe/exist Jul 20 14:13:18 exists :) Jul 20 14:13:37 and I dunno. It's been a while since I compiled natively on the device... Jul 20 14:13:47 But it was possible, not sure about metapackage, though. Jul 20 14:14:10 ipkg install gcc binutils bison flex m4 autoconf automake Jul 20 14:14:15 that should take care of most of it Jul 20 14:14:20 i may have missed a few Jul 20 14:14:29 something along these lines, yes. Jul 20 14:14:29 and make Jul 20 14:14:46 build errors usually tell you if your missing anything else Jul 20 14:17:17 thnkx wirelessdreamer Jul 20 14:17:21 and polyonymous Jul 20 14:19:35 someone use gdb-cross here? Jul 20 14:20:12 no Jul 20 14:20:16 hrw: not recently Jul 20 14:20:23 zecke: you had it working? Jul 20 14:20:30 hrw: there is sandman's old docu in the Opie cvs Jul 20 14:20:51 hrw: I don't remember which toolchain I have used but it used to work Jul 20 14:21:27 ok Jul 20 14:21:58 how i can add a new "distro" in oe ? Jul 20 14:22:32 psycoman: what for? Jul 20 14:22:45 there are so many of them already Jul 20 14:22:48 I'd say it's something that you do when you don't have to ask. Jul 20 14:23:47 i need some help in how to add some header files to the staging? the staging section in the OE usermanual is not done :( Jul 20 14:24:09 hrw: im in moment searching a dsitro to supress my pdaxrom xD Jul 20 14:24:11 i have 4 header files i need to make available to the sources Jul 20 14:24:19 how do i add them to staging path? Jul 20 14:24:26 im tring angstrom-console with a xserver Jul 20 14:24:37 to be like a pdaxrom Jul 20 14:24:49 but im newbie in linux world hehe Jul 20 14:24:50 HelloMrWorld: installing them? Jul 20 14:25:07 and cannotmake startx works like a normal sistem Jul 20 14:25:09 HelloMrWorld: there is STAGING_INCDIR defined and use the BSD 'install' tool Jul 20 14:25:16 i dont wanna install a display manager Jul 20 14:25:26 HelloMrWorld, but random.c doesn't sound like a header file to me :) Jul 20 14:25:33 zecke : this stupid package needs the open ssl headers in order to build, headers like des.h, md5.h, etc, so i need to add them to staging right? Jul 20 14:25:39 so oe can find htem Jul 20 14:26:10 HelloMrWorld: if it is openssl, add DEPENDS = "openssl" Jul 20 14:26:37 zecke : it needs the sources for open ssl not the package Jul 20 14:27:01 i tried DEPENDS Jul 20 14:27:02 HelloMrWorld, these headers are staged Jul 20 14:27:10 oh? Jul 20 14:27:17 wonder why it didn't work Jul 20 14:27:19 HelloMrWorld, but iirc it wanted openssl/ Jul 20 14:27:29 openssl/rand.c Jul 20 14:27:33 HelloMrWorld: why does it need sources? This is not acceptable for any sane distro Jul 20 14:27:37 rand.h i think Jul 20 14:27:50 ah Jul 20 14:27:54 zecke : ask the guys at rainbowcrack.com :) Jul 20 14:27:55 you've said .c! Jul 20 14:28:03 typo :) Jul 20 14:28:04 Then just fix the build system to use staged openssl Jul 20 14:28:07 i meant rand.h Jul 20 14:28:10 HelloMrWorld: I would immediately shoot him... and revoke his right to write code Jul 20 14:28:17 lol zecke Jul 20 14:28:28 HelloMrWorld: so does it need sources or just a header file as it links to openssl? Jul 20 14:28:30 zecke : i quite like this software so im not so mad :) Jul 20 14:28:56 polyonymous : what do you mean by fix? Jul 20 14:30:10 HelloMrWorld, "# To correct or set right; adjust: fix a misspelling; fix the out-of-date accounts. Jul 20 14:30:10 # To restore to proper condition or working order; repair: fix a broken machine." Jul 20 14:30:23 lol Jul 20 14:30:25 hrw: any idea ? Jul 20 14:30:30 or sugestion Jul 20 14:30:42 polyonymous : but how to stage openssl? Jul 20 14:30:50 openssl IS staged fine. Jul 20 14:30:59 It's just that your .bb doesn't seem to get there. Jul 20 14:31:03 oh Jul 20 14:31:08 that is, of course, if openssl built fine Jul 20 14:31:14 you can try bitbake openssl to make sure Jul 20 14:31:26 so when i use depends openssl, it will stage it also? Jul 20 14:31:35 right Jul 20 14:32:28 im just trying out bitbake openssl Jul 20 14:32:33 it seems to be building it Jul 20 14:32:46 huh... how did you build your .bb? Jul 20 14:32:54 bitbake -b ? Jul 20 14:32:58 polyonymous : yeah Jul 20 14:33:02 ah isee Jul 20 14:33:08 so -b only builds yours Jul 20 14:33:09 I think that would omit deps Jul 20 14:33:12 i see Jul 20 14:33:41 psycoman: linux newbie + making new distribution does not match Jul 20 14:33:44 are the oe kernel's patched to accept 4gig sd cards? Jul 20 14:34:00 psycoman: I rather suggest learning how angstrom works Jul 20 14:34:07 polyonymous : so to just be able to do bitbake mypackage i must add my local-packages to the BBPATH? Jul 20 14:34:14 wirelessdreamer: 2.6 does not need to be patched for 4GB SD cards Jul 20 14:34:23 wirelessdreamer: unless it is 2.6.16 or older Jul 20 14:34:30 thanks :) didn't know that Jul 20 14:34:47 hrw: im doing it rigth now, i have installed oe and make some testes Jul 20 14:34:48 i used 2.4 for so long i didn't think to check about that when i went to 2.6 Jul 20 14:34:49 HelloMrWorld, no, local-packages/*/*.bb to BBFILES Jul 20 14:35:04 ofcourse Jul 20 14:35:06 HelloMrWorld, but you can just build deps by hand and then -b as well, I'd think Jul 20 14:35:46 and tring understang the X too, to make a "linux like" into my zaurus Jul 20 14:36:06 wirelessdreamer: the problem is that 4GB are usually SDHC now not SD Jul 20 14:36:38 linux like? :) Jul 20 14:36:56 wirelessdreamer: there were 4GB SD cards on the market but now all 4GB are sdhc - this need 2.6.21 iirc but I do not know does it need hardware support or not Jul 20 14:37:06 polyonymous : thx, given me hope :) Jul 20 14:37:39 i wonder if anyone has ever tried: bitbake world Jul 20 14:37:48 how mnay days do you think it would take to build that? Jul 20 14:38:07 I didn't know there's such target. I think it would fail, anyway. Jul 20 14:38:16 and I'd be short of diskspace too. Jul 20 14:38:17 polyonymous: hehe, with "normal apps" like openssh and etc xD not a linux PDA like Jul 20 14:38:34 psycoman, what's wrong with just using angstrom? Jul 20 14:38:52 polyonymous : yeah, just saw it on OE site, need like a terabyte of space lol Jul 20 14:39:59 polyonymous: i dont like gpe-*, and im trying use a openbox/fbpanel Jul 20 14:40:24 but angstrom work with display manager and i dont know about xD, i just want a startx hehe Jul 20 14:40:38 psycoman, but instead of building your distro you can just install install things you want. Jul 20 14:41:08 s/install// Jul 20 14:41:57 yeap, i have installed oe im my desktop to make some packages to me and etc.. Jul 20 14:42:06 but still not having a work startx hehe Jul 20 14:42:23 right now im studing a way to do this, with console image Jul 20 14:42:27 "et cetera" needs no additional "and" :) Jul 20 14:42:49 startx of xserver-kdriver-common dont work Jul 20 14:42:52 but what I wanted to say is that I think you'd want to start distro (although you wouldn't) when you get things working. Jul 20 14:43:22 polyonymous: sorry, im not a english guy and i have very port skill in this language hehe Jul 20 14:43:48 "et cetera" is not English :) And I think your native language is of romance family :) Jul 20 14:44:24 psycoman: none of OE distros have startx script Jul 20 14:44:26 polyonymous: my quest about distro is just for know how it works Jul 20 14:44:31 * polyonymous isn't a native speaker either. just a smartass. Jul 20 14:44:42 psycoman, hell, try it and explore then :) Jul 20 14:44:50 you have a whole oe tree of examples. Jul 20 14:45:23 hrw: the package xserver-kdrive-common have a startx script Jul 20 14:45:30 not working but have Jul 20 14:46:11 * hrw starts X by /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm Jul 20 14:49:29 got another problem: says arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: no such file or directory Jul 20 14:49:34 i think im going to go mad Jul 20 14:50:50 hrw: i dont have this script, where i can get ? Jul 20 14:51:28 =/ Jul 20 14:51:33 hrw: i dont have this script, where i can get ? Jul 20 14:52:24 it is one of poky scripts Jul 20 14:52:36 hrw : any idea why i get this error? Jul 20 14:52:51 your build tools aren't build correctly Jul 20 14:53:04 ? Jul 20 14:53:05 HelloMrWorld: not without detailed log Jul 20 14:53:07 in my experience it is one of the fist things oe will build before anything else Jul 20 14:53:15 because without it nothing with compile ;) Jul 20 14:53:22 psycoman: xserver-nodm-init Jul 20 14:53:46 wirelessdreamer : i can build other things, just built openssl Jul 20 14:54:13 my glass ball is broken Jul 20 14:54:22 i need search better, before ask some things hehe Jul 20 14:54:54 check your logs of something that builds correctly and compare the path of the arm gcc it uses compared to that one that is missing Jul 20 14:55:05 you probably have a path thats off Jul 20 14:55:19 if thats the makefile your trying to get to use the build tools Jul 20 14:56:57 how can i check if i have arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc? without using find Jul 20 14:57:03 where is it usually kept? Jul 20 14:57:28 could it be that because im using bitbake -b that its not being bui;t? Jul 20 14:57:32 built* Jul 20 14:59:01 you have to have arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc to compile, so its built somewhere Jul 20 14:59:40 hrw: ok, this script start X server, and where i can edit to start WM-thinks Jul 20 14:59:48 s/thinks/things Jul 20 15:00:39 psycoman: do you know how to switch WM at all? how X11 session works? Jul 20 15:01:07 psycoman .xinitrc should work Jul 20 15:01:24 without such knowledge you should not start ;) Jul 20 15:01:47 HelloMrWorld: check your logs in /OE/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/SOME_PACKAGE_NAME/temp/log.do_configure Jul 20 15:01:54 make sure it sees arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc Jul 20 15:02:05 hrw: no in a complet process, you can point-me to a good document about ? Jul 20 15:02:15 if so then your other makefile just has a path problem Jul 20 15:02:41 psycoman: google knows more then I Jul 20 15:02:48 OE/tmp/cross/bin is the directory all your cross tools should be in Jul 20 15:03:04 or whatever your tmp directory points to Jul 20 15:03:08 hrw: thnkx xD Jul 20 15:03:29 lol shit it actually built Jul 20 15:03:35 hurray! Jul 20 15:03:54 awesome :) Jul 20 15:04:02 grats Jul 20 15:04:10 now its time to shoot the developer Jul 20 15:04:14 anyone want to join me? Jul 20 15:04:34 thx for the support guys Jul 20 15:04:59 hi all Jul 20 15:05:21 i have a issue in my zaurus, the clocl is alwas set 1/1/1970 after boot Jul 20 15:05:22 anyone here know a variable i can set to get a devshell to spawn itself in the same term it was started in? Jul 20 15:05:30 first let me see bugtracker Jul 20 15:08:13 i love bugtracker xD Jul 20 15:10:16 im trying compile some apps in zaurus Jul 20 15:10:35 i have installed the packages to developt Jul 20 15:10:48 when i do ./configure, i get this error Jul 20 15:10:56 checking for C compiler default output file name... Jul 20 15:11:03 googling i find this Jul 20 15:11:07 install glibc-devel Jul 20 15:11:23 polyonymous: looks like I was wrong twice -- e.g. angstrom image contains correct hostname... Jul 20 15:11:49 but i donk now what package is missing Jul 20 15:19:49 has anyone here ever replaced their microdrive with a cf card? Jul 20 15:21:34 i have a link wirelessdreamer wait Jul 20 15:22:35 i know i've read of people doing it, i'd like to see a preformance upgrade from a 150x or 300x cf card though, supposed to be able to get 7meg a sec read/write on normal hw, not sure what the zaurus can handle though Jul 20 15:23:36 you can benchmerch this with external slot first Jul 20 15:25:14 I never managed to transfer more than 2 MB/s with either a 100BaseTX card or a cf card with a SL-6000, this might be a hw limit Jul 20 15:27:28 aoe_: but it uses stacks and hardware a little diff Jul 20 15:27:43 maybe ide interface an be a little more Jul 20 15:28:56 psycoman: use hdparm on device to test? Jul 20 15:29:21 btw - can we move distro talks to distro channels? Jul 20 15:29:25 psycoman: but cf is ide, isn't it? Jul 20 15:29:57 hrw: wirelessdreamer can test Jul 20 15:30:24 i just say: i have a link to something about this change Jul 20 15:30:52 i can do hdparm but my Cf is microdrive not a flash memory 150x ou 300x Jul 20 15:31:04 maybe wirelessdreamer can do, and post results to us Jul 20 15:31:22 http://www.flickr.com/photos/50659119@N00/sets/72157600299217163/show/ Jul 20 15:32:50 guys - this is OE channel. we discuss here about OE not about how does linux works on devices Jul 20 15:33:12 i don't have any good cf cards Jul 20 15:33:31 i just saw some new 8 and 16 gig 300x udma cards that are supposed to have good speed Jul 20 15:33:37 i don't have the cash to get one now though Jul 20 15:33:50 hrw: ok you right, sorry Jul 20 15:34:38 hdparm on my microdrive is 1.77MB/sec Jul 20 15:34:45 i'd really like to get that to 4 or 6 Jul 20 15:35:04 the z should be alot happier with apps like firefox then Jul 20 15:36:33 my sd card does 1.72 MB/sec Jul 20 15:37:30 hrw: how can i subimt a .bb package ? Jul 20 15:38:11 use bugtracker Jul 20 15:38:50 then.. Jul 20 15:39:14 if i make a .bb to openbox, i have to open a bug and attach the bb file ? Jul 20 15:58:25 yes Jul 20 15:59:33 hi hrw Jul 20 16:06:06 hi woglinde Jul 20 16:06:36 hi daurnimator Jul 20 16:31:16 im getting some really widerd build (do_compile) errors, like : ChainWalkContext.cpp:425:error: unknown register name '%edx' in 'asm' Jul 20 16:31:41 bye Jul 20 16:31:56 ciao Jul 20 16:35:42 edx is x86 register? Jul 20 16:36:12 so its not usefull on other archs Jul 20 16:38:02 woglinde : so what do i do? Jul 20 16:38:17 delete function? Jul 20 16:39:45 learn assembler coding and port it? Jul 20 16:40:57 argh Jul 20 16:42:25 or learn assembler coding and rewirte it in C? Jul 20 16:42:35 aeh c++ Jul 20 16:45:34 Its probably in assembler for areason Jul 20 16:45:47 speed :) Jul 20 16:46:05 CosmicPenguin: how are you? Jul 20 16:47:48 he zecke Jul 20 16:47:50 hi ph5 Jul 20 16:48:17 hej woglinde Jul 20 16:52:21 hi koen Jul 20 16:53:05 ~lart bmibaby Jul 20 16:53:05 those idiots left the luggage out in the rain for half an hour Jul 20 16:53:06 * ibot forces bmibaby to use Outlook Express Jul 20 16:53:10 hey woglinde Jul 20 16:53:37 ~hail apple for making waterproof laptops Jul 20 16:53:38 * ibot bows down to apple for making waterproof laptops and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jul 20 16:54:08 koen coffee? Jul 20 16:54:21 koen: that is the sweat and blood of true child labor Jul 20 16:54:22 or tea? Jul 20 16:54:52 woglinde: massive rains at birmingairport and incompetent bagage handlers Jul 20 16:55:40 koen he yes Jul 20 16:55:41 zecke: good - how are you? Jul 20 16:55:48 they throw everything Jul 20 16:56:33 I wouldn't mind throwing, since the laptop and camera were surrounded by copious layers of dirty laundry Jul 20 16:56:56 CosmicPenguin: I'm doing fine. My studying is slowly progressing Jul 20 16:57:08 Good Jul 20 16:57:20 ever onward Jul 20 16:57:35 up, up and away! Jul 20 16:57:55 koen: you must defend your title of fastest cross compiler in the west Jul 20 16:58:10 lol Jul 20 16:58:56 koen: I'm going to change the RSS reader and you should have compilation fixed before the first moko user complains Jul 20 16:59:13 zecke: I did, I added butefir :) Jul 20 16:59:40 koen: BTW: did you attend the Nokia EAL talk? Jul 20 16:59:48 * koen discovers another crapload of "OMG YOU HAVE NEO!!!!! LOL!!!!" emails in his inbox Jul 20 17:00:06 zecke: I didn't Jul 20 17:00:21 koen jesus Jul 20 17:01:07 * koen waits for gprs to suck down new mail Jul 20 17:02:46 so lunch now Jul 20 17:03:56 yay! Jul 20 17:04:09 the netbook header generator tool has been written Jul 20 17:05:11 koen: which header? Jul 20 17:05:22 * Philippe dusts off his netbook Jul 20 17:05:38 Philippe: the one that allows boost to boot a kernel Jul 20 17:05:58 yay!!!!!! Jul 20 17:05:58 so now we can *finally* test 2.6.17 Jul 20 17:06:09 that is what I hoped for.... Jul 20 17:06:23 !seen jon_bradbury Jul 20 17:06:24 Jon_Bradbury (n=jonb@cpc5-lanc4-0-0-cust628.brig.cable.ntl.com) was last seen quitting from #angstrom 1 day, 6 hours, 10 minutes ago stating (Remote closed the connection). Jul 20 17:11:56 * koen hopes RP didn't have too much troubles getting home with all that rain Jul 20 17:13:16 I'm pretty sure nokia is doing a maemo phone Jul 20 17:13:40 they went out of their way to ridicule openmoko, which only makes sense if they want to compete Jul 20 17:18:49 XorA|train: hey there Jul 20 17:19:16 what don't they like about openmoko? Jul 20 17:19:52 probably it being a competitor to their closed maemo shite Jul 20 17:20:01 heh Jul 20 17:20:28 Crofton: I reworked the fftw recipes a bit, I will have to think a bit more on how to solve the wisdom binary packaging Jul 20 17:20:44 ok Jul 20 17:21:54 Crofton: do you use the wisdom stuff in ossie? Jul 20 17:21:58 no Jul 20 17:22:06 :) Jul 20 17:22:33 I am reading about it now? Jul 20 17:23:47 it's basically a tool to make a device profile so fftw knows beforehand which method is the fastest Jul 20 17:27:16 has anyone tried to break OE of requiring an absolute path? Jul 20 17:27:47 it's not OE, but binutils Jul 20 17:28:06 I would really love to have it look to $HOME so I can move my build environment around Jul 20 17:28:14 binutils? is that where the problem lies? Jul 20 17:29:19 yes Jul 20 17:29:27 a-ha Jul 20 17:29:29 it checks if builddir == sourcedir Jul 20 17:29:38 I see Jul 20 17:29:45 nuts Jul 20 17:29:51 and with a symlink that fails, and it barfs when it finds a configure script Jul 20 17:30:01 "bla bla already configured" or something like that Jul 20 17:30:06 dang Jul 20 17:31:36 I'm trying to get a system together where I can pass around the build environment to developers so they don't have to build it on their own machines for hours and hours, and not require root access to create a directory at the top level Jul 20 17:32:00 you don't need a toplevel dir Jul 20 17:32:14 /home/jsheldon/OE works fine Jul 20 17:32:23 as long as that doesn't have symlinks Jul 20 17:32:30 right, but if I build under /home/jim/OE I can't give it to /home/someguy Jul 20 17:32:56 in theory you should be able to Jul 20 17:33:05 oh really? hmmm... Jul 20 17:33:08 we are working hard to fix references to builddirs Jul 20 17:33:13 use acls to make /home/jim/OE accessible to everyone you want to have it? Jul 20 17:33:15 oh great Jul 20 17:33:39 it has the same hardware and distro as you do Jul 20 17:33:41 lmm: but what if multiple users want to run builds? Jul 20 17:33:49 since going from debian -> gentoo will break, etc Jul 20 17:33:54 builddirs arent the only references, though. i'd expect there's still stuff in staging that has absolute paths to other stuff in staging, unless that's been audited Jul 20 17:33:57 yup it would Jul 20 17:34:32 kergoth: we fixed a lot of .la files and scripts to stop doing that Jul 20 17:34:36 well thanks for the input, I'll figure out a workaround Jul 20 17:34:41 ah good Jul 20 17:34:59 kergoth: btw, you should have seen mickey's face when we told him you work at MV now Jul 20 17:35:39 lol Jul 20 17:36:55 "haha, very funny" "no, seriously" Jul 20 17:37:54 kergoth: let us take a look. First package built is quilt-native oh it has absolute paths :) Jul 20 17:38:10 zecke: yikes! Jul 20 17:38:30 i don't see why everyone's so surprised. i've certainly pointed out my dislike for mvista tools in the past, when i was at ti, but beyond that they're a decent company, and employ some good folks, like deepak and kevin hilman and others Jul 20 17:38:31 * kergoth shrugs Jul 20 17:38:50 kergoth: and you :) Jul 20 17:39:51 kergoth: and now you can join OE people at embedded conferences :) Jul 20 17:40:00 MV usually sends their gang Jul 20 17:40:09 thatd be very nice Jul 20 17:40:17 jsheldon: not sure if this is a great method, but I always use a chroot system for builds Jul 20 17:40:43 dfoley: yes I do too, which is how I've been working around the problem so far :) Jul 20 17:42:47 hi Jul 20 17:43:48 hi, I am trying to build bootstrap-image of generic distro for my shiny netvista terminal (so I'm using the "netvista" machine). bitbake boostrap-image complained about not having bluez-dtl1-workaround, so I decided to build it. The problem is that bitbake hangs on do_fetch. I straced the process and I found out thet it is in an infinite loop because it's trying to write to stdout and gets SIGTTOU, which makes it restart. Does anyone have any hints on how Jul 20 17:43:48 to resolve this issue? Jul 20 17:44:07 don't use DISTRO=generic, it's broken Jul 20 17:45:22 which distro might I use then for a headless box then? Jul 20 17:45:34 angstrom-2007.1 Jul 20 17:45:50 redguy: bitbake angstrom-console-image Jul 20 17:47:27 psokolovsky_, " 2) Joypad is mixed up (press right moves up, press up moves left, etc)." does it have something to do with what I think it has something to do with?:) Jul 20 17:47:29 will try, thanks Jul 20 17:47:37 back to bitbaking then... :-) Jul 20 17:57:32 polyonymous: likely Jul 20 17:58:14 umm. ok. strange, I'd rather expect it to be the case on Z, although, it's not, for what I can tell by my test. Jul 20 17:59:40 well, apparently it wouldn't build because I have run it from the mc subshell... PEBKAC, as always :-) Jul 20 18:01:15 "output is normal, problem is on your side" :) Jul 20 18:03:46 "I resample from 8kHz to 11999kHz and am surprised about aliasing effects" Jul 20 18:04:16 koen|train, you renamed another bug summary? :) Jul 20 18:04:41 I would have if that was the only comment in the bug :) Jul 20 18:04:46 what is the difference between angstrom-console-image and bootstrap-imge? Jul 20 18:05:01 ;-)) Jul 20 18:05:04 the first builds the other doesn't ? Jul 20 18:05:22 I am always building boostrap-image :) Jul 20 18:05:26 wouldn't it make sense to cleanup? Jul 20 18:06:55 kergoth: which MV office are you in, or are you telecommuting? Jul 20 18:07:38 Tempe, AZ office Jul 20 18:11:17 "but it's a *dry* heat..." :) Jul 20 18:11:55 zecke: ephinany/webkit will land in OE as soon as the epiphany dudes fix their svn Jul 20 18:12:55 going to el's birthday now Jul 20 18:12:58 mwester: I think I still have a shirt saying that :) Jul 20 18:13:12 koen|train: I wonder what version of WebKit they have forked... Jul 20 18:13:17 zecke: enjoy Jul 20 18:13:35 koen|train: http://bugwerft.de/ bbq with this view Jul 20 18:14:58 bbl Jul 20 18:15:33 s/bbl/bbq/ ;) Jul 20 18:17:35 koen|train: hx4700 xserver-kdrive failed yesterday because it tried to build 1.3.0. I am planning to add PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive = "1.2.0" to hx4700.conf. Works for you? Jul 20 18:19:21 Any nslug owners here? Jul 20 18:19:26 tnb: yes, adding that would be great Jul 20 18:19:39 ok Jul 20 18:43:34 good morning all Jul 20 18:45:36 morning Jul 20 18:47:07 likewise, you played with the Efika lately? Jul 20 18:47:53 Crofton: not after I played with deep sleep Jul 20 18:48:07 should it support sound? Jul 20 18:48:32 Crofton: yes, I have a build setup w/ sound support and some sound apps. Jul 20 18:48:40 hmm Jul 20 18:48:55 I built bootstrap-image for it and had no sound support Jul 20 18:48:58 but the volume is 0% by default Jul 20 18:49:14 the mixer would not run for me Jul 20 18:49:57 any thoughts? is the sound stuff built as modules? Jul 20 18:50:01 Crofton: hmm, I can help, but not atm, I am not near my work station... Jul 20 18:50:24 ok Jul 20 18:50:34 I should be doind other stuff Jul 20 18:50:52 but if you get a chance could you look and see if there is something obvious we need to fix Jul 20 18:51:22 It is a background task for me atm Jul 20 18:51:30 whats going on with the virtual/libsdl? Jul 20 18:51:32 but I would like to figure it out Jul 20 18:52:25 Crofton: no problem, I can probably do a complete test cycle tonight or tomorrow (unless something else comes up, etc..) Jul 20 18:52:57 thanks Jul 20 18:54:19 some patches seem to be missing from the repository Jul 20 18:54:58 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libsdl/libsdl-directfb_1.2.9.bb Jul 20 18:55:16 this file refers to patches that do not exist Jul 20 18:55:40 http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libsdl/files Jul 20 18:56:00 here are the patches that are there Jul 20 18:56:52 can anyone here help me with this? Jul 20 18:57:26 hmmm Jul 20 18:58:05 need to look at the mtn log and see who commited the bb change and forgot to add the patches Jul 20 18:58:27 which patches are missing? Jul 20 18:58:57 lemme see Jul 20 18:59:26 it may be best to create a bug in bugzilla Jul 20 19:03:05 it will take me a while to figure it out, I am updateing my db Jul 20 19:03:10 this seems to be an incomlpete update Jul 20 19:03:35 SRC_URI = "http://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-${PV}.tar.gz \ Jul 20 19:03:35 file://agawa-piro-mickey-1.2.9.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:36 file://pygame-1.2.9.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:36 file://mouse-1.2.9.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:37 file://kill-stdc++-1.2.9.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:37 file://ipaq-1.2.9.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:37 file://SDL-Akita-1.2.9.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:39 file://fixlibs-1.2.9.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:42 file://no-PAGE_SIZE.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:44 file://explicit-extern-C.patch;patch=1 \ Jul 20 19:03:46 file://acinclude.m4 \ Jul 20 19:03:48 file://directfb_obsolete_calls.patch;patch=1" Jul 20 19:03:50 S = "${WORKDIR}/SDL-${PV}" Jul 20 19:04:24 ~pastebin Jul 20 19:04:25 i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well Jul 20 19:05:16 this was form the bitbake file Jul 20 19:05:22 right Jul 20 19:05:24 rebooting into the right mindset Jul 20 19:05:49 and the files directory above has only 4 files Jul 20 19:06:16 acinclude.m4 Jul 20 19:06:26 directfb_obsolete_calls.patch Jul 20 19:06:40 extra-keys.patch Jul 20 19:06:54 kernel-asm-page.patch Jul 20 19:07:46 why would they put a bb file that uses patch that arent there? Jul 20 19:08:35 well Jul 20 19:08:46 because you forgot to add the patch files to OE :) Jul 20 19:08:51 this happens Jul 20 19:09:25 okay then i can get these patches from libsdl.org maybe? Jul 20 19:09:51 and pop them in the appropriate directory Jul 20 19:09:54 not sure, the best thing to do is figure out who made the change to the bb file and email them Jul 20 19:10:03 or create a bugzilla Jul 20 19:10:27 the repository will tell me who made this modification?\ Jul 20 19:10:32 yeah Jul 20 19:10:37 but I suck at mtn log Jul 20 19:10:50 so I am dumping the entire log to a file and will search Jul 20 19:11:17 i see Jul 20 19:12:56 the modification was 3 days ago Jul 20 19:13:12 koen, fix QA issues? Jul 20 19:15:46 im not not sure how to fix this Jul 20 19:16:02 im fairly new to OE Jul 20 19:16:06 basically, file a bug report Jul 20 19:16:14 detailing which patch files are missing Jul 20 19:16:19 okay Jul 20 19:16:21 or send an email to the dev list Jul 20 19:16:29 dev list? Jul 20 19:16:38 the names I see in the mtn log are in EU, so I suspect they are not working Jul 20 19:26:22 koen|away, ping Jul 20 19:33:43 can somebody help me get a working openocd.cfg for the smdk2440? Jul 20 19:38:11 re koen Jul 20 19:38:32 koen, have you been working on libsdl-directfb? Jul 20 19:38:44 keesj, try #edev? Jul 20 19:38:46 hi all Jul 20 19:38:48 * koen is finally home Jul 20 19:38:49 keesj: might want to try #openjtag Jul 20 19:38:50 Crofton: I only removed a '#' Jul 20 19:38:54 hmmm Jul 20 19:39:09 micheal is claiming there are missing patch files Jul 20 19:39:19 thanks I will try all :p Jul 20 19:39:50 and a quick look suggests he has a point Jul 20 19:47:37 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r67dbe8b9... 10/ (1 packages/linux/compulab-pxa270_2.6.16.bb): compulab-pxa270_2.6.16.bb: fix location of custom tasks Jul 20 19:54:19 hmm, do we have viewmtn setup somewhere? Jul 20 19:54:53 crofton its broken Jul 20 19:55:05 I just figured that out :( Jul 20 20:07:40 keesj: the openocd,cfg for Neo1973 works on smdk2440 Jul 20 20:07:46 koen: yo Jul 20 20:08:04 hey XorA|gone Jul 20 20:08:30 he xora Jul 20 20:13:36 XorA|gone: that was my starting point but the configuration does not look very complete at least in combo with my jtag-key I can't even perform a reset, but I was able to suspend and download binary Jul 20 20:16:10 keesj: odd, all I chaged was the usb id and it worked perfectly Jul 20 20:16:58 keesj: although I never tried a reset, I just debugged a kernel I had downloaded by usb Jul 20 20:18:09 XorA|gone: did you use the closed source or open source ftdi or the binary driver? Jul 20 20:18:29 so libftd2xx0 or libftdi Jul 20 20:18:37 keesj: I used the openmoko stuff, just moved it into smdk2440 kernel build Jul 20 20:19:00 keesj: I had been debugging openmoko kernel only a couple of days before Jul 20 20:19:50 XorA|gone: thanks for the info , I will try a little harder! Jul 20 20:20:39 keesj: but this was a few months ago so its possible they changed the config Jul 20 20:20:56 keesj: I was amazed it worked actually as I was desperate Jul 20 20:22:06 I see it as an investment in happyness to get it working :p Jul 20 20:22:07 keesj: I will be working on smdk2440 on monday so if you still have problems I can try it at work Jul 20 20:22:25 Philippe: talk to Jon_Bradbury :) Jul 20 20:24:06 Gosh, I get an intro too! Thanks koen Jul 20 20:24:22 this is what I currently get http://paste-it.net/2929/raw/ Jul 20 20:25:11 keesj: you could poke drath_ for openocd questions Jul 20 20:25:37 keesj: I dont recognise the error, but I can check on monday when I have hardware to hand Jul 20 20:27:13 Philippe : Hi Jul 20 20:27:17 florian : hi Jul 20 20:27:24 XorA|gone: the piggies have roughly doubled in size :) Jul 20 20:27:45 Jon_Bradbury: florian is currently at the airport Jul 20 20:28:09 koen : how do you know that? Jul 20 20:28:36 because I had the earlier flight :) Jul 20 20:28:56 koen: living upto name then :-) Jul 20 20:29:03 a lot of people in #oe were at guadec.org last week Jul 20 20:29:53 Well I hope they got beer. Jul 20 20:29:59 lots of beer Jul 20 20:30:18 Huh. No one invited me.. ;) Jul 20 20:31:33 * koen ponders about proper been in istanbul next year Jul 20 20:32:03 giadec in istambul next year ?!?!?!?! Jul 20 20:32:25 Don't fret, it's a lovely place, and turkey is secular. Jul 20 20:32:45 about as secular as the US these days .... Jul 20 20:32:54 * Crofton is just bitter Jul 20 20:34:36 Crofton: more secular Jul 20 20:34:45 :) Jul 20 20:34:56 the military will do a coup if the religuous zealots get into power Jul 20 20:35:06 yeah Jul 20 20:35:06 <3 ssh SOCKS support Jul 20 20:35:27 They are all [insert that religion here] in denial Jul 20 20:35:30 wife just got back from Istanbul, there is an Irish bar, we shall be fine Jul 20 20:35:51 it could be in Utah Jul 20 20:35:56 home of 3.2 beer Jul 20 20:36:04 XorA|gone : There's one of those in every city Jul 20 20:36:05 well, this is what I here Jul 20 20:36:07 er ehar Jul 20 20:37:18 koen : how to calculate the branch_instruction field of the boost header? Jul 20 20:37:59 koen : Oh, wait a minute, substitute the offset for zero in the formula, but that means all the bi's will be the same. Jul 20 20:38:30 koen : set the flag bit 17 as well? (Compressed using zlib) Jul 20 20:40:20 * koen has no idea Jul 20 20:40:32 I only poke people from time to time to upload info :) Jul 20 20:41:17 I promise you there will be no need to poke me. I'm going to populate the wiki, as soon as I have something worth saying. Jul 20 20:41:44 Crofton: I started a build. Jul 20 20:42:13 thanks Jul 20 20:42:26 hello koen et al. long time no see. Jul 20 20:42:31 koen : on the zlib faq : "Q: Can you please sign these lengthy legal documents and fax them back to us so that we can use your software in our product? Jul 20 20:42:32 I'll make sure I am up to date and start one leter Jul 20 20:42:42 koen : A : No. Go away. Shoo. Jul 20 20:42:50 Well I laughed Jul 20 20:43:02 hey likewise Jul 20 20:43:04 well, I'm not up-to-date on that build (but it should work) Jul 20 20:45:57 how was yugoslavia? Jul 20 20:47:16 koen: croatia, excellent. very nice people, most beautiful nature and views I have experienced in Europe. Neat seas, dolphins even, nice diving. Jul 20 20:47:23 oh and the food was good Jul 20 20:47:51 * koen adds croatia to his list Jul 20 20:47:57 yes Jul 20 20:48:03 and cheap Jul 20 20:48:08 Remember to pack a Kalashnikov Jul 20 20:48:45 sorry only joking Jul 20 20:49:00 koen you can add bulgaria too Jul 20 20:49:48 hmm croatia is not on the euro? Jul 20 20:50:11 woglinde : Not sure I agree. I went to Borovets on a snowboarding holiday and it was expensive, people ripping you off everywhere, and Sofia was a slum. Jul 20 20:50:33 jon oh no wintersports Jul 20 20:50:36 Mind you that's a resort for well off Europeans. Jul 20 20:50:41 only summer on the beach Jul 20 20:51:06 Not anymore, I have a bad back, a bit overweight, and kids. Jul 20 20:51:20 Plus, I eBayed my board Jul 20 20:51:24 kids and overweight? Jul 20 20:51:32 you do something wrong Jul 20 20:51:38 Yeah, I'm like, 42, dude Jul 20 20:51:55 youngster Jul 20 20:52:14 whoa, I thought I was the octogenarian round here Jul 20 20:52:21 nope Jul 20 20:52:35 hihi Jul 20 20:52:55 jon how many kids? Jul 20 20:53:09 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r091b2e1f... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh13.bb): (log message trimmed) Jul 20 20:53:09 linux-handhelds-2.6: Add 2.6.21-hh13. Jul 20 20:53:09 * Changes since -hh12: Jul 20 20:53:09 1. ts-adc-debounce and ts-adc merged under the name of ts-adc. Jul 20 20:53:09 2. SoC driver header files consolidation: now all they live in Jul 20 20:53:10 Jul 20 20:53:13 3. All SoC drivers now accept IRQ base for demultiplexed interrupts via Jul 20 20:53:17 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r895f25e3... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop few old versions. Jul 20 20:53:23 ah. well, how do you get time to do open source development? I mean, you've responsibilites that have to be serviced Jul 20 20:53:45 grad school Jul 20 20:54:05 woglinde : two rather lovely girls, 4 and 6, and they have the same birthday Jul 20 20:54:15 jon lol Jul 20 20:54:23 my son is now 12 months Jul 20 20:54:25 psokolovsky_: could you rename 'initramfs' to something like 'initramfs-initscripts' please? Jul 20 20:54:30 and has the first teeths Jul 20 20:54:57 woglinde : Ahhh cute. Get that child a teething ring if you want to sleep! Jul 20 20:55:02 cool beer taste fine Jul 20 20:55:03 koen: ok Jul 20 20:55:13 jon he sleeps Jul 20 20:55:27 woglinde you are very lucky Jul 20 20:55:47 jon yes we have luck with him Jul 20 20:55:49 Crofton : what are you studying? Jul 20 20:56:11 but otherside he now runs in every room and put things together on the floor Jul 20 20:56:11 software defined radio Jul 20 20:56:25 crofton : cool Jul 20 20:56:41 woglinde : you mean he takes things apart Jul 20 20:57:10 woglinde : just wait till he stuffs a slice of toast (with jam) in the video player Jul 20 20:57:23 hm we only have dvd Jul 20 20:57:26 Jon_Bradbury: fwiw, you probably made oxfam/novib happy as well Jul 20 20:57:32 video is abbonned Jul 20 20:57:42 koen : who? Jul 20 20:57:46 they have a number of nbps they take into afrika for field work Jul 20 20:58:10 now let me see if cacao-cldc1.1 runs with uclibc and the mmap2 fix Jul 20 20:58:17 oh fireworks Jul 20 20:58:26 Jon_Bradbury: http://www.oxfam.org/ Jul 20 20:58:32 koen : I will sort out that header now I know what to do with it. Jul 20 20:58:57 koen : right, I thought you meant nicknames on the IRC server Jul 20 20:59:30 woglinde : babies love dvd players heh, heh, heh.... Jul 20 20:59:59 jon he loves keyboard mouse gamepad tv-connect-cable powercords ... Jul 20 21:00:12 old cellphone gameboy Jul 20 21:00:33 babies eat cellphones... or try to... Jul 20 21:02:03 args Jul 20 21:02:08 ~lart cacao Jul 20 21:02:09 * ibot executes killall -TERM cacao Jul 20 21:14:08 hi ! Jul 20 21:14:38 I am just reflashing my sl-c700 following koens instructions. Jul 20 21:15:36 Is it the jffs2 image or the tar.gz - image that I should rename to initrd.bin then ? Jul 20 21:15:56 jffs2 I guess Jul 20 21:17:14 thanks, I'll try that Jul 20 21:23:26 hm someone knows which arguemnt is wrong here? Jul 20 21:23:28 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) Jul 20 21:24:40 hm ah Jul 20 21:24:46 I got it Jul 20 21:24:49 forget the question Jul 20 21:29:53 koen : BooSt reports that the zlib inflate failed. Jul 20 21:30:55 koen : unfortunately it does not say why! Jul 20 21:42:13 hi all Jul 20 21:42:23 im tring install de oe builsystem in my box Jul 20 21:42:31 i follow all steps fine Jul 20 21:42:38 but when i try bitbake nano Jul 20 21:42:42 i got a error Jul 20 21:42:48 in binutils Jul 20 21:43:01 aboute makeinfo missing in my system/ Jul 20 21:46:11 so whats the quesiton? Jul 20 21:46:24 install makeinfo on your host and you are fine Jul 20 21:46:48 lol Jul 20 21:46:56 let me see Jul 20 21:47:04 i dont think this is in my system Jul 20 21:47:17 yeah then INSTALL it Jul 20 21:47:50 texinfo: /usr/bin/makeinfo# Jul 20 21:47:54 texinfo: /usr/bin/makeinfo Jul 20 21:48:08 im thinking this issue is in build system heh Jul 20 21:48:24 no Jul 20 21:48:55 maybee in the buildsystem of binutils Jul 20 21:49:12 but then it tell you install makeinfo Jul 20 21:49:16 than install makeinfo Jul 20 21:50:36 i will try thnkx Jul 20 21:50:50 woglinde: it worked ! Jul 20 21:50:56 jan_js hehe Jul 20 21:52:23 yes. But The old sl-c700 is slow, much slower than my h3900 with fam.0.84 / gpe. Jul 20 21:52:44 They should be on par, since cpu and memory are similar ? Jul 20 22:00:27 woglinde: sorry but where i can get makeinfo Jul 20 22:01:20 psycoman which linux distribution you have? Jul 20 22:01:25 crux.nu Jul 20 22:01:33 ???? Jul 20 22:01:37 jesus Jul 20 22:01:38 www.crux.nu Jul 20 22:02:03 CRUX is a lightweight, i686-optimized Linux distribution targeted at experienced Linux users Jul 20 22:02:07 did you read this? Jul 20 22:02:14 yeap Jul 20 22:02:25 and you ARE experienced Linux users? Jul 20 22:02:31 i can work with this built with no much problems Jul 20 22:02:38 no but works easy Jul 20 22:02:46 *sigh* Jul 20 22:02:58 tell you the word lightweight soemthing? Jul 20 22:03:30 crux is made for runnig apps Jul 20 22:03:37 not for developing apps Jul 20 22:03:59 makeinfo is in textinfo right ? Jul 20 22:04:03 right Jul 20 22:04:16 ok i have package to this ^ ^ in crux Jul 20 22:04:44 ~lart cacao for ignoring -classpath Jul 20 22:04:44 * ibot cats /dev/urandom into cacao's ear for ignoring -classpath Jul 20 22:08:37 mhmm... fun bug in altboot : it cannot find losetup Jul 20 22:09:08 /sbin is not in the current PATH when altboot is launched, it seems :) Jul 20 22:09:30 or is it just me ? Jul 20 22:15:37 mhmm... yep, much better when adding PATH="/sbin:$PATH" in .cfg :) Jul 20 22:17:29 hi Jul 20 22:17:39 jo coredump Jul 20 22:18:20 hey CoreDump Jul 20 22:20:04 koen: (or someone) can you help with a commit to OE? (first commit here). Monotone PhraseBook is not helping. Jul 20 22:20:09 CoreDump|home, FYI, altboot isn't installed by default on current angstrom builds. However it is indeed available in the feeds :) Jul 20 22:20:30 good enough ;) Jul 20 22:20:37 I've done a pull, and mtn update, and commit, but to my knowledge nothing was committed Jul 20 22:20:47 doing a push gives an error Jul 20 22:21:02 mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.openembedded.org: 'received network error: remote public key hash 'c7800fabe6b256e5092fbf3ee58368e6ad0a54a0' is unknown' Jul 20 22:21:10 and mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.openembedded.org: 'received network error: remote public key hash 'c7800fabe6b256e5092fbf3ee58368e6ad0a54a0' is unknown' Jul 20 22:27:14 I also get the same errors if I do a pull with using -k vs. using 'anonymous' Jul 20 22:28:01 dont use -k Jul 20 22:29:20 woglinde: yes, that works (to not use -k) for pull, but not mtn push Jul 20 22:30:17 received network error: remote public key hash 'c7800fabe6b256e5092fbf3ee58368e6ad0a54a0' is unknown' Jul 20 22:30:22 tell you what? Jul 20 22:30:54 where is the best place to request a new module for the spitz kernel ? Jul 20 22:31:13 I tried to build it myself, no problem, works nicely Jul 20 22:31:27 (so far) Jul 20 22:32:02 (axnet_cs, needed for some ethernet CF that pcnet_cs does not support) Jul 20 22:32:31 bugzilla ? Jul 20 22:32:35 mailing list ? Jul 20 22:37:19 but it on bugzilla Jul 20 22:37:34 and then mention the bug here when more people are around Jul 20 22:38:58 yo mornin Jul 20 22:39:17 woglinde, which bug? Jul 20 22:40:03 -> < nodens> (axnet_cs, needed for some ethernet CF that pcnet_cs does not support) Jul 20 22:41:31 no idea Jul 20 22:41:34 i'm so wasted Jul 20 22:41:37 thing is Jul 20 22:41:57 i need to sell my zaurus so see you all 10-10-2007 Jul 20 22:42:38 hf at guadec and keep up the good work Jul 20 22:43:07 *sigh* He didnt understand Jul 20 22:43:13 woglinde, ok Jul 20 22:43:37 nodens I could do it Jul 20 22:43:51 but that would made some people angry mabyee Jul 20 22:44:30 well... I'm not in a hurry... I'm a big boy now, and I can add a module in my OE myself ;) Jul 20 22:44:55 it would be nice if it where in the default kernel, though Jul 20 22:45:16 hehe Jul 20 22:46:01 I'll file a bug later, I also need to downgrade to 2.6.20 to check if keylaunch works better than in 2.6.21, and file a bug if it's the case Jul 20 22:47:06 then I need to partition my terrier again, because parted does not want to resize my root partition, even when booting on a SD... Jul 20 22:47:10 Jul 20 22:51:42 noclouds: fwiw, you could backup your rootfs via netcat and DD over USB networking Jul 20 22:51:52 s/noclouds/nodens Jul 20 22:52:22 yup Jul 20 22:52:26 I'll done that Jul 20 22:52:35 s/done/do Jul 20 22:52:39 that's how I made an image of the Trisoft HDD setup Jul 20 22:52:59 but it would have been neat to resize / :) Jul 20 22:53:21 nodens: indeed Jul 20 22:53:32 anyway... I found a bug in altboot... so it wasn't a complete waste of time ;) Jul 20 22:53:47 bug #? Jul 20 22:54:12 hi, just wondering, i'm trying to build task-base but i get a linker error on pciutils Jul 20 22:54:16 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Jul 20 22:54:16 | make: *** [lspci] Error 1 Jul 20 22:54:17 mhmm... lemme see... this damned ff just crashed Jul 20 22:54:42 bug #2670 Jul 20 22:55:04 !oebug 2670 Jul 20 22:55:08 trivial to fix, except if you consider it's an init bug and not an altboot one Jul 20 22:56:17 the bot appears to be hung Jul 20 23:01:31 ... parted refuses to build as well. I thought I saw a patch for working around the autoconf 2.61 problem... Jul 20 23:01:39 in the commit log Jul 20 23:02:14 * * OE Bug 2532 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es Jul 20 23:02:16 * *  Create .bb file for libsigc++ 2.0.17 package Jul 20 23:02:18 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2532 Jul 20 23:02:26 * * OE Bug 2666 has been created by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es Jul 20 23:02:28 * * Error while building the library libsigc++-2.0.17 Jul 20 23:02:30 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2666 Jul 20 23:02:38 * * OE Bug 2667 has been created by uncle.grog(AT)gmail.com Jul 20 23:02:40 * * Sound problems with recent kernels a.k.a. asound statefiles need updating Jul 20 23:02:42 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2667 Jul 20 23:02:50 * * OE Bug 2617 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2667 by dp(AT)xora.org.uk Jul 20 23:02:52 * *  spitz/akita sound mixer misconfiguration Jul 20 23:02:54 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2617 Jul 20 23:03:02 * * OE Bug 2658 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 20 23:03:04 * *  linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.21-hh11-r1 fails to build Jul 20 23:03:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 Jul 20 23:03:10 * * Flood control triggered, clearing queue... Jul 20 23:03:14 * * [24] pending messages removed. Jul 20 23:03:29 !oebug 2670 Jul 20 23:03:42 * * Bug 2670, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-07-20 15:21 Jul 20 23:03:44 * * clement.hermann(AT)free.fr: initial env for altboot lacks /sbin in $PATH : losetup not found Jul 20 23:03:46 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2670 Jul 20 23:05:07 this must be the most useful bot I've ever seen on an irc channel :) Jul 20 23:05:37 heh Jul 20 23:06:30 mhmm... usb and netcat aren't sey enough... let's use tar over ssh pipe ^ ^ Jul 20 23:06:36 s/sey/sexy/ Jul 20 23:07:32 I'm not sure but unencrypted and uncompressed tar over nc is probably faster. In any case you want to avoid gzipping on the Z Jul 20 23:07:41 I suppose I can substitute the angstrom tar.gz image with the resulting tar.gz and flash as usual ? Jul 20 23:07:54 CoreDump|home, of course. gziping would be done on the other side Jul 20 23:08:31 noclouds: that should work, yes. At least I don't see how that could break ;) Jul 20 23:08:38 tar cf - | ssh user@host gzip -c - > tarball.tgz Jul 20 23:08:53 what CMS system and wiki engine is used for the open embedded website? Jul 20 23:09:16 maybe slower than netcat, *but* I already have a ssh daemon running ;) Jul 20 23:09:25 right Jul 20 23:14:54 is it drupal? Jul 20 23:15:18 best drupal i have ever seen Jul 20 23:17:26 MasterYoda, the css is named drupal.css, so I would guess so :) Jul 20 23:17:39 but I don't have a clue besides that Jul 20 23:17:46 yeah, that's what I went off of too Jul 20 23:17:50 thanks anyway Jul 20 23:24:24 CoreDump|home, is kexec in altboot documented somewhere ? Or should I UTFS ? Jul 20 23:24:57 there is no working built-in kexec support in altboot yet Jul 20 23:25:41 oh Jul 20 23:25:42 * mwester has kexec for ARM patched so that it at least works now... Jul 20 23:25:45 I hardly understand what do people want from altboot except for coming up at boot time and letting to select from menu. Jul 20 23:25:48 I though so Jul 20 23:26:43 running different kernel; and even different distro with different kernel Jul 20 23:27:06 without having to wait for init to finish Jul 20 23:27:18 or patching the kernel to use u-boot... Jul 20 23:27:50 at least that's what I want ;) Jul 20 23:49:38 i tring compile openbox in zaurus (native) Jul 20 23:50:05 but the build is tring to get libglib in this path Jul 20 23:50:06 /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.12.12-r2/glib-2.12.12/glib/libglib-2.0.la: No such file or directory Jul 20 23:50:12 but why @@ ? Jul 20 23:50:26 if this lib is in /usr/lib Jul 21 00:06:05 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra7a168be... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Jul 21 00:06:05 initramfs-uniboot: Rename from just initramfs. Jul 21 00:06:05 * Suggested by Koen Kooi. Jul 21 00:11:18 heh... just deleting / recreating /dev/hda1 and resize2fs did the trick Jul 21 00:11:30 didn't need parted for that after all ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 21 02:59:58 2007