**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 25 02:59:57 2007 Jul 25 05:02:59 * * OE Bug 2682 has been created by hvontres(AT)gmail.com Jul 25 05:03:01 * * Fixed poodle_pm-r3.patch to compile for 2.6.21 Jul 25 05:03:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2682 Jul 25 05:14:19 mwester: ping Jul 25 05:14:36 ~seen thesing Jul 25 05:14:37 thesing was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 3d 5h 28m 46s ago, saying: 'Night all.'. Jul 25 06:37:59 * * OE Bug 2683 has been created by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es Jul 25 06:38:01 * * wmmxt version of qemu fails while generating the de_DE ( UTF-8) localte for glibc 2.5 Jul 25 06:38:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2683 Jul 25 06:57:11 XorA|gone: http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2007/07/24/if-you-see-the-buddha-on-the-road-port-it-to-gtk/ Jul 25 07:19:25 koen: I'm now the owner of a C700 Jul 25 07:21:31 with the buggy cpu? Jul 25 07:24:52 yes, the pxa250 Jul 25 07:25:05 but sharp alleviated that by putting in very little ram Jul 25 07:29:16 luckily I didn't pay anything for it :-) Jul 25 07:33:00 rwhitby: the xserver has Xv acceleration, so you could use it as a bare-bones mplayer machine Jul 25 07:35:40 koen: cool - I can use it to keep the kids amused on a long trip with a car usb adapter for power :-) Jul 25 07:36:08 iirc it doesn't charge from usb, but any 5v 1A plug will do Jul 25 07:36:12 I'll probably mainly use it to understand what this Angstrom thing is really all about when it runs on something with a display. Jul 25 07:36:21 same plug as ipaqs, so enought 3rd part stuff Jul 25 07:36:23 it seems to charge from usb Jul 25 07:37:20 or at least run from usb only Jul 25 07:37:24 dunno yet Jul 25 07:41:43 should i include Jul 25 07:42:22 should i add RDEPENDS = "tslib" to support touchscreen lib? Jul 25 07:49:20 who supply the dependence for tslib? almost every depends on tslib is DEPENDS = "tslib" , how would tslib be added in image file? Jul 25 07:54:32 morning Jul 25 07:54:55 all zaurus models older then cxx00 will charge from usb Jul 25 07:55:20 es Jul 25 07:55:21 yes Jul 25 07:57:30 pkg 0.22, autoconf 2.61: so far, so good Jul 25 07:59:16 koen: automake 1.9.6 or 1.10? Jul 25 08:00:14 automake-native 0:1.9.3-r5 Jul 25 08:05:13 ok Jul 25 08:07:30 did you m4-native to 1.4.8? Jul 25 08:08:33 m4-native 0:1.4.4-r0 Jul 25 08:08:37 is that needed? Jul 25 08:10:44 koen: when you get to more gnome stuff you will need it Jul 25 08:15:00 gcc 4.2.0 is broken, do we want to keep it or do mv 4.2.0 4.2.1? Jul 25 08:15:19 go for 4.2.1 Jul 25 08:15:28 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.2.1-r1: task do_compile: started Jul 25 08:15:31 if no-one is using it Jul 25 08:15:50 4.2.1 is the bugfix release for the 'showstopper' in 4.2.0 Jul 25 08:15:54 no point keepig broke stuff around to confuse people Jul 25 08:16:08 I need to sort out a uclibc patch before committing it Jul 25 08:16:30 and then add a angstrom-2008 config with glibc 2.6 and gcc 4.2.1 :) Jul 25 08:17:31 first release 2007 ;) Jul 25 08:17:57 is there a method to do_fetch a SRC_URI via scp ? Jul 25 08:18:15 iirc yes rob_w Jul 25 08:18:48 hrw: since people want to keep me out of the loop by doing things behind my back, I have no plans to work on the 2007 release Jul 25 08:19:48 which package takes responsibility to include tslib in image file? there is no rdepends on it. Jul 25 08:20:01 koen: What are people doing behind your back out of interest? Jul 25 08:20:28 readon: Things like the xserver should DEPEND on it and if they link to it, that creates an RDEPEND Jul 25 08:20:30 RP: installing a wiki on the webserver for instance Jul 25 08:20:45 koen: You've removed that now though? Jul 25 08:21:06 and the developer concerned it seems Jul 25 08:21:06 no, I added a .htaccess with a redirect Jul 25 08:21:48 hrw : The board is on the way. Jul 25 08:21:53 koen: ok, you have disabled it now Jul 25 08:21:57 RP: what do you mean "link to it"? how depends creates rdepends? Jul 25 08:22:33 readon: tslib is a library and the xserver has a dynamic link to it Jul 25 08:22:35 RP: following psokolovsky_'s proposal Jul 25 08:22:47 koen: I know, nobody objected to that Jul 25 08:23:13 koen: I'm just wondering how this equates to not working on the 2007 release Jul 25 08:23:37 RP: maybe people are nearly done with a 2007 release already Jul 25 08:24:08 I don't know, since hrw and laibsch deliberately aren't telling me things Jul 25 08:24:26 koen: maybe they are. If that is the case, I wish you'd communicate things more clearly since you're being deliberately obtuse Jul 25 08:25:38 steliosk: great Jul 25 08:27:02 koen: Rolf asked me in private what I think about announcing mediawiki install. I looked at it and told that for me it can be announced. So he did. Jul 25 08:27:34 koen: You realise that your attitiude is about to destroy angstrom? Jul 25 08:27:46 he said "all along" which implies more than the announcement Jul 25 08:28:27 hello everyone. mtd-utils on git seem to be failing on patching. there was a commit on the master git tree yesterday that seemed to break it. Jul 25 08:28:54 m9dhatter: Those patches were merged with a twist (using lzo 2.x instead of 1.x) Jul 25 08:29:14 m9dhatter: Poky has a patch to make it use 1.x again which can replace the existing patches Jul 25 08:29:31 m9dhatter: I plan to add lxo 2.x but I haven't quite got it to build yet Jul 25 08:30:11 from the manual i learned that if i need add packages depended, i should use RDEPENDS = "tslib", but how would dynamic link do? a link to libts.so.00 ? Jul 25 08:30:16 koen: angstrom is quite old and no one worked on documentation yet. Jul 25 08:30:25 readon: NEVER EVER add libs to RDEPENDS Jul 25 08:30:50 RP: where can i get Poky's patches? Jul 25 08:30:58 readon: Our shlibs code looks at the libraries the binaries link to and magically sets RDEPENDS for you Jul 25 08:31:07 hrw: I'm no one? Jul 25 08:33:35 hrw, roger that Jul 25 08:33:55 RP: mtd-1.0.0.bb seems to build just fine. but mkfs.jffs2 seems to be missing after that. Jul 25 08:34:14 m9dhatter: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/tslib/ Jul 25 08:34:58 RP: no configuration needed? Jul 25 08:35:16 koen: please compare OZ wiki with Angstrom one - finding content on one and on another Jul 25 08:35:19 readon: No, it just works Jul 25 08:36:00 hrw: text search works equally well for both Jul 25 08:36:29 hrw: read psokolovsky_'s mail and submit an RFC Jul 25 08:36:34 koen: I mean structure and organization Jul 25 08:36:46 it's a wiki Jul 25 08:36:54 koen: the problem is that I do not have time to work on documentation Jul 25 08:36:57 RP: ok. how do i use this? i assume you mean mtd and not tslib. do i checkout the mtd folder and just use those? Jul 25 08:37:03 hrw,koen: so I just got a C700, here's a test of the documentation. Each of you tell me where I should look to find out how to reflash the thing from bare metal with the latest OZ and Angstrom distributions. The one that I can follow (and I consider myself reasonably experienced in flashing stuff on embedded devices) wins. Jul 25 08:37:14 m9dhatter: Sorry, yes, look in the mtd directory Jul 25 08:37:56 rwhitby: afaik the angstrom wiki links to the OZ install instructions Jul 25 08:38:04 rwhitby: angstrom website has instruction for c7x0 (taken from OZ) Jul 25 08:40:45 RP: i cant seem to svn co poky's trunk.. Jul 25 08:41:27 * rwhitby will try the install tonight Jul 25 08:44:16 hey Jul 25 08:44:57 hi there Jul 25 08:45:02 ho Jul 25 08:45:58 hi zecke, I'm new at oe and have some trouble getting additional packages into the bootstrap image Jul 25 08:47:31 RP: nevermind. found the correct path. : Jul 25 08:47:36 RP: :) Jul 25 08:47:45 RP: i write a reciepe for image with the line DEPENDS= "tslib", but it is strange that tslib is not included in the images. Jul 25 08:48:41 adding them to BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS and rebuilding task-bootstrap don't catch them Jul 25 08:50:58 BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS?? Jul 25 08:51:05 it is deprecated Jul 25 08:51:24 does task-bootstrap still exist? Jul 25 08:56:55 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r9a8e3829... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): mtd-utils: Updates after lzo patches merged upstream (from poky) Jul 25 08:57:54 morning all Jul 25 08:58:23 yo Jul 25 09:00:10 RP: is there any way to change the bb file to use a snapshot before the commits to use lzo 2? so its just a simple bb file addition? Jul 25 09:01:50 m9dhatter: Just add a tag to the .bb file for a revision before that commit Jul 25 09:02:03 hi do13 Jul 25 09:02:27 readon: Does anything dynamiclly link to the tslib library Jul 25 09:02:34 hi Richard Jul 25 09:03:52 XorA: mail sent about autofoo updates Jul 25 09:05:25 RP: it is very strange, it appears. Jul 25 09:07:02 rwhitby: one of the slugos servers is hosted at OSUOSL, right? Jul 25 09:10:53 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.2.1-r1: task do_install: started Jul 25 09:13:22 RP: i think it would be better to replace the existing mtd-utils_1.0.0+git.bb file to just use tag=a6fa706fe9e7696b4b2045edf9698c3bac07e3e3 instead of master. Jul 25 09:13:43 RP: that way, the patches don't need to be changed. Jul 25 09:19:45 koen: cool Jul 25 09:22:05 RP: was i horribly horribly wrong? Jul 25 09:23:51 hrw, i've seen that task-bootstrap has moved to depricated but I found this method on the wiki, but no alternative Jul 25 09:23:57 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/FirstProject#distroDefinition Jul 25 09:24:33 m9dhatter: I've pushed an update into OE that works Jul 25 09:24:47 so i just do mtn pull? Jul 25 09:24:55 m9dhatter: There is no problem changing the patches. yes, just pull Jul 25 09:25:23 I have called bitbake bootstrap-image to create my rootfs Jul 25 09:25:25 RP: ok. thanks for the quick patch. Jul 25 09:25:50 zarath: hm. looks like we need to update that part of doc Jul 25 09:29:26 hrw: nice idea Jul 25 09:29:52 that page needs to be in the user-manual and removed from the wiki Jul 25 09:29:58 (after a cleanup) Jul 25 09:30:01 hey liam Jul 25 09:31:10 meanwhile, is there a place where I can find the right policy for setting up a customized distribution Jul 25 09:31:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r723e9206... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: move to gtk 2.10.14, fixes some weird behaviour with the xml parser Jul 25 09:32:04 zarath: do you _need_ a customized distro or just a customized image? Jul 25 09:34:07 more or less a custimized distro as I found nothing which was very close to my needs Jul 25 09:34:28 what are your needs Jul 25 09:34:30 ? Jul 25 09:34:39 I need it for a intel p4 and an geode-gx machine Jul 25 09:34:48 very, _very_ few people need a customized distro Jul 25 09:34:59 most of them just need a customized image Jul 25 09:35:06 zarath: what makes you think that angstrom will be not good for you? Jul 25 09:35:58 mom, I'll have a look Jul 25 09:36:23 but still then I have to add some custumized packages Jul 25 09:37:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7689c8e7... 10/ (61 files in 5 dirs): Jul 25 09:37:27 gcc: 4.2.0 has a bug, so replace it with 4.2.1 Jul 25 09:37:27 * one minor uclibc patch needs to get refreshed, but we can nick that from buildroot in a few days Jul 25 09:37:48 zarath: like I said, a customized image, not a customized distro Jul 25 09:38:18 I don't need gtk Jul 25 09:38:20 ;-) Jul 25 09:38:48 and how is that a distro thing? Jul 25 09:38:51 please explain Jul 25 09:39:01 good morning Jul 25 09:39:15 hey florian Jul 25 09:39:33 so am I'm able to strip down that packages from the distro definistion? Jul 25 09:40:00 what is the prefered way to do it Jul 25 09:41:15 can i inherit angstrom or just copy and modify the distro.conf? Jul 25 09:42:36 zarath: just use angstrom Jul 25 09:43:00 zarath: do not change it - just use Jul 25 09:43:19 zarath: then build one of our standard images, test it and then tell us what you want to change Jul 25 09:43:21 zarath: an image recipes defines which packages get installed, not a distro Jul 25 09:43:38 fscking usb Jul 25 09:45:35 zecke: I'm going to try unbreaking the webkit build now Jul 25 09:45:47 ah, as faar as I see DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS was the variable I'searched for Jul 25 09:48:59 zarath: do not touch distro vars Jul 25 09:49:10 zarath: if you want extra stuff in image then create own one Jul 25 09:51:51 I'll try to find out Jul 25 09:56:24 brb - reboot Jul 25 09:56:59 * * OE Bug 2669 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 25 09:57:01 * *  Revamp module_conf_* support for 2.6 Jul 25 09:57:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2669 Jul 25 10:07:06 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r6d0dee35... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-opie-versions-1.2.3.inc): preferred-opie-versions-1.2.3.inc: Add file for OPIE 1.2.3 release. Jul 25 10:07:16 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rc01beefb... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): Jul 25 10:07:16 kernel.bbclass: Add support for module config per 2.6 conevntions. Jul 25 10:07:16 * 2.6 modprobe expects per-module configuration in /etc/modprobe.d/ . Jul 25 10:07:16 * Closes #2669. Jul 25 10:07:20 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r402c34c0... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): mtd-utils: Remove stale files/versions (from poky) Jul 25 10:19:27 mallum: your getting into a habit :_) Jul 25 10:19:43 XorA: yeah I kicked it and now it looks like its back Jul 25 10:19:55 XorA: I just wont talk to anyone and then it will be ok right ? Jul 25 10:19:58 mallum: OE is like drugs, you can never get over it Jul 25 10:20:32 mallum: or are you hiding from MPAA after GUADEC :-) Jul 25 10:20:38 * RP suspects mallum meant irc in general Jul 25 10:20:45 but irc is like drugs too ;-) Jul 25 10:20:56 hmm, Id prefer drugs Jul 25 10:21:07 mallum: move OH to Amsterdam Jul 25 10:21:33 hmm, would be an interesting productivity experiment Jul 25 10:21:44 Clutter on Acid :-) Jul 25 10:21:46 mallum: Such a good role model ;-) Jul 25 10:21:50 a a a a aceeeeeeeeed Jul 25 10:21:59 * * OE Bug 2681 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by lenehan(AT)twibble.org Jul 25 10:22:01 * *  3 typos in help world example Jul 25 10:22:03 or do I show my age there Jul 25 10:22:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2681 Jul 25 10:23:01 mallum: btw, you betrayed during our sticker deal at GUADEC. YOu got the openmoko ones but I did not got the o-hand ones. ;) Jul 25 10:23:16 stefan_schmidt: oh sorry :( Jul 25 10:23:32 mallum: heh, it's ok. :) Jul 25 10:23:40 stefan_schmidt: no deliberate we have loads of OH stickers always trying to get rid of them Jul 25 10:24:29 mallum: Do you produce them in .uk? I still searching for a good sticker producer for the openmoko ones. .tw has to bad quality Jul 25 10:25:22 stefan_schmidt: yeah stickermonkey.co.uk Jul 25 10:25:46 * stefan_schmidt takes a look, after lunch. later Jul 25 10:35:37 any sed master in the house? Jul 25 10:36:29 I need to remove "-L/work/foo/bar" from "-Ibla -L/work/foo/bar -L/staging/foo" and I only have -L/work/foo to match against Jul 25 10:37:15 s/(\/work\/foo\/.*)\s+// Jul 25 10:37:56 erm Jul 25 10:38:05 s/\/work\/foo\/.*\s+/ / Jul 25 10:38:19 or along those lines Jul 25 10:38:40 s/\/work\/foo\/.*\S+/ / Jul 25 10:38:49 s/\/work\/foo\/\S*\s+/ / Jul 25 10:38:52 I think thats it Jul 25 10:39:03 its too early for regexp Jul 25 10:40:44 s:/work/foo\S\s+: : ? Jul 25 10:40:54 all the \/\/\/\ confuse me Jul 25 10:40:56 koen: yeah Jul 25 10:41:20 s:/work/foo\S*\s+: : Jul 25 10:41:32 as there may be many non whitespace chars after work/foo Jul 25 10:42:07 for i in `find ${D} -name "*.la"` ; do \ Jul 25 10:42:08 sed -i -e s:${STAGING_LIBDIR}:${libdir}:g $i Jul 25 10:42:08 sed -i -e s:${D}::g $i Jul 25 10:42:09 sed -i -e s:${WORKDIR}\S\s+::g $i Jul 25 10:42:09 done Jul 25 10:42:14 that's what I have Jul 25 10:42:38 sed -i -e s:${WORKDIR}\S*\s+::g $i Jul 25 10:42:51 ah, right Jul 25 10:43:17 so any number of chars adter ${WORKDIR} terminated by any number of spaces >1 Jul 25 10:43:29 so any number of chars adter ${WORKDIR} terminated by any number of spaces >=1 Jul 25 10:43:43 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * ra345293c... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): usermanual: Fix some typos in the helloworld example. Closes #2681. Jul 25 10:43:49 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf963a995... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): disapproval of revision '8cdc9906876cb88040360ad2c43a38608055f2b4' Jul 25 10:43:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra8652178... 10/ (1 packages/webkit/webkit_svn.bb): webkit: fix dftables build Jul 25 10:43:56 oh there should be a space between : : Jul 25 10:44:08 im not sure if there is or not, but xchat isnt showing one Jul 25 10:44:17 :: Jul 25 10:44:22 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r64380b55... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/phoneserver_1.0.bb): phoneserver: Fix PACKAGE_ARCH Jul 25 10:44:26 so we suck all the spaces, and replace them with one space yes :: Jul 25 10:44:27 not :\: ? Jul 25 10:45:21 koen: : : Jul 25 10:45:36 sed -i -e s:${WORKDIR}\S*\s+: :g $i Jul 25 10:45:56 of course your probably gonna cause me pain when that fails :-) Jul 25 10:49:06 ah, parse error gone :) Jul 25 10:52:33 XorA: http://rafb.net/p/ftyQ7T53.html Jul 25 10:53:32 koen: looks good as long as my regexp work Jul 25 10:54:54 let's find out :) Jul 25 10:59:47 greetings Jul 25 11:00:28 hi Aim2 Jul 25 11:03:20 hmm. FirstProject page in OE wiki require rewriting rather then editing Jul 25 11:04:08 XorA: autotools.bbclass needed '' around the s:: Jul 25 11:33:03 rwhitby: any luck :) Jul 25 11:34:55 re Jul 25 11:34:59 back from holidays :> Jul 25 11:37:26 XorA: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/WebKitGdk.pc Jul 25 11:37:37 sed -i -e 's:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/webkit-0.0+svn20070725-r1/\S*\s+: :g' WebKitGdk.pc Jul 25 11:37:45 that doesn't seem to have an effect Jul 25 11:37:51 koen: thanks for updating mediatomb to 0.10.0 Jul 25 11:37:59 Jin^eLD: np Jul 25 11:43:02 koen: hmmmm Jul 25 11:43:28 koen: oh, all those + and . chars are not going to help Jul 25 11:43:55 \+ , \. --- ain't sed fun? Jul 25 11:44:30 its looking for 0.0svn as the + isnt interpreted as a char, but as a 1 or more 0 Jul 25 11:56:24 sed -i -e 's:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi\S*\s+: :g' WebKitGdk.pc also doesn't seem to do anything Jul 25 11:58:05 sed -e 's:-L/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/webkit-0.0.svn20070725-r1/\S*: :g' WebKitGdk.pc Jul 25 11:58:12 that last \s+ is breaking it Jul 25 11:58:17 no idea why Jul 25 11:58:53 even works without escaping the + Jul 25 11:59:00 sed -e 's:-L/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/webkit-0.0+svn20070725-r1/\S*: :g' WebKitGdk.pc Jul 25 12:00:04 http://rafb.net/p/cpkU8367.html Jul 25 12:00:29 koen: looks like it might do the job Jul 25 12:00:35 koen: but I said that before :-) Jul 25 12:00:37 testing now Jul 25 12:37:09 XorA: midori 0.3 renders quite nice Jul 25 12:37:48 koen: cool, that with latest Webkit? Jul 25 12:38:05 gtk-webcore still Jul 25 12:38:58 I suspect it would work a lot better if we'd build the gtk tiff loader Jul 25 12:39:07 morning Jul 25 12:39:14 hey chouimat Jul 25 12:39:50 ~lart Polish shops for lack of good mini-ITX cases Jul 25 12:39:50 * ibot_ executes killall -KILL Polish shops for lack of good mini-ITX cases Jul 25 12:40:03 looks like getting one from US will be best Jul 25 12:40:22 hi, all! Jul 25 12:40:39 hey slapin Jul 25 12:40:43 did anybody tried to use netconsole over g_ether? Jul 25 12:42:08 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb70cc4c9... 10/ (1 classes/pkgconfig.bbclass): pkgconfig.bbclass: mangle some more workdir occurences Jul 25 12:42:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra89a3c03... 10/ (1 classes/autotools.bbclass): autotools.bbclass: run sed over .la files to removes various occurences to staging, workdir and ${D} Jul 25 12:42:43 * koen is a bit too lazy to bump PR for all autotools and pkgconfig using recipes Jul 25 12:48:54 slapin: I'd be surprised if netconsole could work over g_ether... Jul 25 12:50:30 hi Jul 25 12:51:06 hi dcordes Jul 25 12:51:19 koen: time for -c sedall task :-) Jul 25 12:53:33 some one have a workaround for this: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-users/2007-June/000137.html Jul 25 12:53:40 bye all Jul 25 12:53:42 i have same problem, compiling glib Jul 25 12:53:46 bye hrw|gone Jul 25 12:54:23 psycoman: you built libiconv, the only solution is to kill tmp/ Jul 25 12:55:03 XorA: i not build, maybe some dependencie Jul 25 12:55:26 psycoman: nothing should depend on libiconv, I thought koen had fixed all them bugs Jul 25 12:55:26 i will delete tmp folder.. Jul 25 12:55:42 XorA: i dont build libiconv Jul 25 12:55:49 i just build at moment Jul 25 12:55:54 nano, e-wm Jul 25 12:56:16 should SRC_URI's using git obey SRCDATE? Jul 25 12:56:17 now ima tring build task-xfce-base and i get this error Jul 25 12:56:27 jsheldon: no, that is impossible Jul 25 12:56:39 XorA: ok that's what I thought Jul 25 12:56:56 vivijim: If they are sane they will stay in the honigmond Jul 25 12:57:19 XorA: can i delete only staging ? Jul 25 12:57:35 psycoman: then stuff wont rebuild that is needed Jul 25 12:58:37 just for re-enforce, some thing is strange, i dont build libiconv by my hand Jul 25 12:59:30 psycoman: egrep -rn "DEPENDS.*libiconv" org.openembedded.dev and find any that are not virtual/libiconv Jul 25 13:00:15 ok Jul 25 13:02:41 zecke: hehehehe thanks Jul 25 13:03:17 zecke: you are from berlin, aren't you? Jul 25 13:03:33 any ideas on how to get backtrace text on device without serial and only USB networking? Jul 25 13:04:16 vivijim: yes Jul 25 13:05:08 XorA: all is virtual/libiconv, very strange i will empty the folder and try again thnkx Jul 25 13:05:26 zecke: webkit build fixed, now onto webkit staging Jul 25 13:06:13 koen: 'fixed' but okay :) Jul 25 13:06:43 koen: WEBKIT_INC_DIR=/usr/include/webkitgtk WEBKIT_LIB_DIR=/usr/lib when calling qmake Jul 25 13:07:13 and what does that do? Jul 25 13:07:31 koen: it will make install install to these dirs Jul 25 13:07:39 koen: but doesn't fix staging Jul 25 13:11:14 qmake install WEBKIT_INC_DIR=${STAGING_INCDIR} WEBKIT_LIB_DIR=${STAGING_LIBDIR} ? Jul 25 13:12:06 qmake CONFIG+=gdk-port ... WEBKIT_INC_DIR=... WEBKIT_LIB_DIR Jul 25 13:12:07 make Jul 25 13:12:09 make install Jul 25 13:34:34 where i can get keylaunch-gpe source ? Jul 25 13:38:56 psycoman: check the SRC_URI of the bb file? Jul 25 13:50:24 * koen builds webkit for the 7th time today Jul 25 13:51:08 * XorA gets very bored of I2C Jul 25 13:51:36 it's square Jul 25 13:52:16 I²C Jul 25 13:52:20 oh that works :-) Jul 25 13:59:04 koen: only the 7th time? Jul 25 14:03:38 * chouimat tries to get some job done but with the painters here and a few constructions crew outside ... he thinks he will take the day off :) Jul 25 14:07:21 zecke: so, were you able to find script we were talking about yesterday? Jul 25 14:08:17 psokolovsky: didn't search for it yet. It is on my desktop at home. Jul 25 14:12:56 zecke: i do that, but SRC_URI only have file:// in bb and not tar.gz or some like Jul 25 14:13:36 psycoman: then follow the white rabbit Jul 25 14:13:44 psycoman: it is doing a inherit gpe(something) Jul 25 14:13:54 psycoman: then look for gpesomething.bbclass in classes/ Jul 25 14:14:34 ok, i will follow Jul 25 14:34:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra4e4bdd6... 10/ (1 packages/webkit/webkit_svn.bb): webkit: add some qmake magic from zecke to make install and staging work better Jul 25 14:37:42 zecke: your rssreader compiles now Jul 25 14:40:48 zecke: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/41276146a3d53af5741d119a5c6f2b59.png Jul 25 14:44:33 it's usuable as a browser as well :) Jul 25 14:44:37 it follows links Jul 25 14:50:16 that is a bug :) Jul 25 14:50:42 koen: I need to play with CSS to automatically scale images to the width of the view Jul 25 14:51:13 it works pretty good Jul 25 14:51:27 and it's in the armv5te feed for angstrom Jul 25 14:52:11 koen: awesome :) Jul 25 14:52:32 the policy to not follow links is not yet implemented Jul 25 14:52:45 I guessed that :) Jul 25 14:53:08 "it freezes. oh no, black things. hmm.. ah, web page!" Jul 25 14:53:38 koen: mickeyl made a mistake with my key for OE.dev, can you take a look? Jul 25 14:53:55 koen: remote public key hash 'ca01a15f71c5223fbfa02401c87cdfbe8d1579cb' is unknown' Jul 25 14:54:36 ca01a15f71c5223fbfa02401c87cdfbe8d1579cb stefan@openembedded.org Jul 25 14:54:57 it is in the db Jul 25 14:54:58 koen: it freezes == curl sucks donkey ass on lookups Jul 25 14:55:10 stefan_schmidt: could you try again? Jul 25 14:55:52 koen: Same again: http://nopaste.com/p/aZ1IgNxMmb Jul 25 14:57:15 koen: I know that alphaone also had problems with his key mickeyl added. But I don't know how they fixed it. Jul 25 14:58:13 ah Jul 25 14:58:16 I see why Jul 25 14:58:21 stefan_schmidt: My key just wasn't in there Jul 25 14:58:32 alphaone: ah Jul 25 14:58:33 mickeyl forwarded it to another server Jul 25 14:58:57 try again Jul 25 14:59:16 mtn: allowed 'stefan@openembedded.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.dev' excluding '' Jul 25 15:01:56 koen: Still working, but looks better now. Jul 25 15:02:24 1Mbit DSL is just not enough Jul 25 15:02:26 mickeyl added your keys to one server and then change the port-forwarding to another Jul 25 15:02:42 * koen has 1Mbit cable Jul 25 15:02:43 koen: you not sent that key Jul 25 15:02:58 XorA: indeed Jul 25 15:03:28 XorA: dp@ or gg@opensource. ? Jul 25 15:03:42 gg@ Jul 25 15:03:49 its official stuffs Jul 25 15:05:03 ok, sent Jul 25 15:05:08 thanks for reminding me Jul 25 15:07:15 hmm, is it normal that a push can take some minutes? Jul 25 15:08:46 stefan_schmidt: only if openmoko users overload ltg Jul 25 15:09:17 zecke: heh, good point Jul 25 15:14:14 mtn: successful exchange with monotone.openembedded.org Jul 25 15:15:44 :) Jul 25 15:15:56 now wen can disapprove it and be mean Jul 25 15:16:01 My first commit. Jul 25 15:16:05 heh Jul 25 15:16:21 the server was a bit behind, so you pushed the 'old' revs in as well Jul 25 15:16:30 the wonders of DSCM :) Jul 25 15:16:32 03stefan 07org.oe.dev * r16117855... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-gta01.inc): Remove bashism from linux-gta01.inc Jul 25 15:16:56 koen: ah, that make sense Jul 25 15:18:20 stefan_schmidt: once a commit signed with your key is in, all servers will have it Jul 25 15:18:35 that's why we ask people to commit ASAP with their newly added key Jul 25 15:18:52 at least I do, but I was on holiday when mickeyl added your keys :) Jul 25 15:19:45 koen: OK, sorry for bothering. Should be all fine now. Jul 25 15:19:58 no problem at all :) Jul 25 15:20:32 koen: I'll read some more about OE policies in the wiki. But will only commit to openmoko stuff the next weeks anyway. Jul 25 15:21:44 politics? in OE? Nah.... Jul 25 15:21:49 Thats silly talk Jul 25 15:21:51 * koen is amazed by the lack of troubles with the autotools 2.61/pkgconfig 0.22/m4 1.4.8 build Jul 25 15:22:05 who is going to be the president of OE? Jul 25 15:22:15 who wants to be? Jul 25 15:22:24 zecke: mickeyl Jul 25 15:22:43 I'll bring some leffe, you start practising his signature Jul 25 15:23:10 all hail president Mickey! Jul 25 15:45:34 hi Jul 25 15:47:38 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r92b38b8c... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): initramfs-module-*: Create install dirs before putting stuff there. Jul 25 15:49:08 hi CoreDump|home Jul 25 15:52:47 hmm now where did the wiki page about configuring "overlays" go Jul 25 15:58:55 CoreDump|home: to bitbake/oe manual? Jul 25 15:59:30 yes Jul 25 15:59:44 I know there is one but I'll be damned if I can find it again :\ Jul 25 16:00:31 CoreDump|home: You mean collections Jul 25 16:00:43 ahh Jul 25 16:01:14 CoreDump|home: http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch04s02.html#id870544 Jul 25 16:01:25 section 4.8 as that id looks dubious Jul 25 16:01:28 RP: perfect! that was the keyname I wa looking for Jul 25 16:01:43 thank! Jul 25 16:02:32 CoreDump|home: At first I though you were messing around with video overlays :) Jul 25 16:02:40 heh nahh Jul 25 16:03:04 I've pretty much given up on smooth full-screen VGA playback for now Jul 25 16:39:37 hi Jul 25 17:09:59 * * OE Bug 2684 has been created by waldecir(AT)gmail.com Jul 25 17:10:01 * * wifi-radar 1.9.6-r0 have wrong dependencies Jul 25 17:10:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2684 Jul 25 17:12:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r345da0be... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): gcc 4.2.1: add missing uclibc locale patch and a patch to reduce binary size with -Os Jul 25 17:24:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r90cd4fad... 10/ (1 packages/wifi-radar/wifi-radar_1.9.6.bb): wifi-radar: fix rdepends, closes #2684 Jul 25 18:02:26 the GettingStarted in OE have i error in documentation Jul 25 18:02:40 wrong: mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev Jul 25 18:02:53 right: mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org dev.openembedded.org Jul 25 18:03:36 or some think like becouse org.openembedded.dev fail in name lookup Jul 25 18:05:29 org.openembedded.dev and dev.openembedded.org fail in name lookup Jul 25 18:05:36 what url i have to use ? Jul 25 18:05:43 to update my local copy Jul 25 18:05:44 ? Jul 25 18:11:01 re Jul 25 18:18:01 sorry abou mtn pull, my bad Jul 25 18:35:59 * * OE Bug 2685 has been created by donatiam(AT)infinito.it Jul 25 18:36:01 * * Screen Rotator GPE applet does not rotate from landscape to portrait Jul 25 18:36:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2685 Jul 25 18:52:53 XorA|gone: there is a tux on my screen!!! thanks Jul 25 18:58:44 keesj: yay Jul 25 19:47:29 I have found a bug in apache2 if anyone would care to lend me a hand Jul 25 19:49:03 Paladine: please post pastebin links here on case someone can give quick hints Jul 25 19:49:14 Paladine: but otherwise, it really worth a but submission Jul 25 19:49:35 sec I will post the blog entry with all the pastebins, will be easier Jul 25 19:49:44 http://blog.paladine.org.uk/?p=22 Jul 25 19:52:10 wow I love how people credit the work of others... Jul 25 19:52:56 zecke? Jul 25 19:52:59 zecke: script... ;-) Jul 25 19:53:08 psokolovsky: I'm not at home :) Jul 25 19:53:14 ;-) Jul 25 19:53:25 I might be home at 4 a.m. Jul 25 19:53:38 oh, cool ;-) Jul 25 19:59:59 * * OE Bug 2686 has been created by ecarreras(AT)gmail.com Jul 25 20:00:01 * * don't pass the bootsplash Jul 25 20:00:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2686 Jul 25 20:04:16 ~lart QSettings, what a piece of non working crap Jul 25 20:04:17 * ibot resizes QSettings, what a piece of non working crap's terminal to 40x24 Jul 25 20:08:59 * * OE Bug 2687 has been created by core.ldf(AT)gmail.com Jul 25 20:09:01 * * Apache2 Failing to start Jul 25 20:09:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2687 Jul 25 20:13:30 Paladine: nice, thanks Jul 25 20:14:10 no problem, hope I put enough info in Jul 25 20:19:19 hey psokolovsky thanks for adding more info Jul 25 21:21:39 03rpurdie * r840 10bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/svn.py: svn.py: Fix #2624 and #2644 by changing svn layout in SVNDIR Jul 25 21:22:43 * woglinde does svn up Jul 25 21:26:49 03rpurdie * r841 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): svn.py: Fix #2624 and #2644 by changing svn layout in SVNDIR (backport) Jul 25 21:28:59 * * OE Bug 2624 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rpurdie(AT)rpsys.net Jul 25 21:29:01 * *  If software's SVN repository changes locations (SRC_URI changed) , updates from old location (and fails) Jul 25 21:29:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2624 Jul 25 21:30:42 strange i have fixed the bug 2685, but cdbot2 dont publish it... Jul 25 21:32:22 exists any rule for publish ? Jul 25 21:32:48 psycoman: I know it won't show bitbake bug changes (2644 was a bitbake bug) Jul 25 21:33:41 2685 is a OE bug Jul 25 21:33:55 i get number here, when it was opened Jul 25 21:34:01 psycoman: As CoreDump|afk when he's around Jul 25 21:34:04 Ask Jul 25 21:34:07 * XorA|gone cries as he finds a MASSIVE amount of train track on ebay Jul 25 21:34:27 ok, i will ask, thkx Jul 25 21:46:21 i have so many bugs resolved but not closed ? Jul 25 21:46:28 s/i/why Jul 25 21:49:29 psycoman hm Jul 25 21:51:49 hi Jul 25 21:51:57 hi hrw :) Jul 25 21:52:25 psycoman|afk: its simple - we resolve bugs, then reported should check does it solved for him and if it is then he should close bug for sure Jul 25 21:52:40 psycoman|afk: most of people do not close bugs Jul 25 21:53:59 can i check and close ? Jul 25 21:56:40 psycoman: yes Jul 25 21:58:00 hrw: you know why cdbot dont publish my resolved/fixed bug ? just for know Jul 25 21:58:11 mickeyl: Is there an easy way to "pop" an exception off the stack so "raise" will just work? Jul 25 21:58:13 if not i wait CoreDump|afk Jul 25 21:58:24 hi Rp :) Jul 25 21:58:30 hi woglinde Jul 25 21:58:36 hi woglinde Jul 25 21:58:44 Any other python gurus are free to answer that question btw ;-) Jul 25 21:59:02 * woglinde is not a guru Jul 25 22:00:16 woglinde: you are still awake? want to each some nachos? Jul 25 22:00:27 zecke: any idea? :) Jul 25 22:00:47 zecke aeh? Jul 25 22:00:51 RP: would need to read it, I'm still at work Jul 25 22:00:55 zecke look at your watch Jul 25 22:01:00 zecke: ok, np Jul 25 22:01:02 its midnight Jul 25 22:01:16 woglinde: yeah, a new work day starts Jul 25 22:01:25 RP: can you elaborate that q? Jul 25 22:01:30 and you dont want to get my wife angry right? Jul 25 22:02:07 psokolovsky: I'm in an exception handler and I have two exceptions stacked, I want to ignore the first and raise the original Jul 25 22:02:29 well, ignore the second I guess Jul 25 22:02:36 zecke whats with today evening? Jul 25 22:02:53 woglinde: I don't care :) Jul 25 22:03:48 psokolovsky: http://www.pastebin.ca/633705 works, I'm wondering if there is a neater way where I could just use "raise" Jul 25 22:03:59 RP: hmm. actually, python doesn't support exception chaining in the sense that java does ;-( - that's main thing they should add instead of bothering with syntactic sugar. So, you'd need to store first exeption into var, and then re-raise it, I guess. Jul 25 22:04:52 psokolovsky: ok, I read some things which implied they were stacked. Thanks for the confirmation thats the only way to do it Jul 25 22:05:05 RP: that's the way to go, I guess. python's not perfect ;-) Jul 25 22:05:18 actually ;-( Jul 25 22:05:56 python support exception chaining... Jul 25 22:06:18 aCiDBaSe: links? Jul 25 22:07:03 http://www.pastebin.ca/633710 Jul 25 22:07:36 lol Jul 25 22:11:00 * * OE Bug 1707 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by waldecir(AT)gmail.com Jul 25 22:11:02 * *  vsftpd bitbake build is broken with regard to SSL support Jul 25 22:11:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1707 Jul 25 22:12:09 That's what are you trying to do? http://www.pastebin.ca/633716 Jul 25 22:13:14 psokolovsky: I'm still not at home Jul 25 22:13:26 mickeyl: could you check your inbox for my old opie script? Jul 25 22:15:05 aCiDBaSe: yes, thats a bit neater :) Jul 25 22:18:09 to pass options to configure, just set EXTRA_OECONF right ? Jul 25 22:18:30 right Jul 25 22:18:41 EXTRA_OECONF += Jul 25 22:18:57 thnkx Jul 25 22:20:09 RP: but not that correct as your original solution, due to lack of chaining, aCiDBaSe's solution show exception originating at line 8 which of course not correct. whereas yours will show adequate info. Jul 25 22:20:28 psokolovsky: true... Jul 25 22:20:40 * RP -> back shortly Jul 25 22:24:05 psokolovsky: can you, plase, show me what are you talking about with java code? Jul 25 22:24:33 aCiDBaSe: nope, read java manual ;-) Jul 25 22:24:39 then, maybe, I can show an equivalent solution in python Jul 25 22:24:54 psokolovsky: I've already read :) Jul 25 22:25:57 * hrw -> sleep Jul 25 22:25:58 bye Jul 25 22:26:24 or take some real-world complex system, like ejb container, and throw exception in minuscule bean, and see that you'll still be able to see how it was processed thru all the system layers (well, RMI calls are problem, still ;-)) Jul 25 22:26:29 ok... now I've seen what you are talking about :) Jul 25 22:27:32 exception chaining is itself of course a kind of syntactic sugar, you can implement it "on the hands". but for it to be really useful, it must be language-builtin and stdlib-supported Jul 25 22:28:20 yes... but this will be addressed only in python 3.0... :/ Jul 25 22:29:47 aCiDBaSe: if it will, you bring the great news! (I don't really watch closely what they do there) Jul 25 22:31:46 PEP 3134 (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3134/) (but it's still in Draft) Jul 25 22:31:58 * * OE Bug 997 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by waldecir(AT)gmail.com Jul 25 22:32:01 * *  ncurses configure fails cc sanity check Jul 25 22:32:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997 Jul 25 22:46:08 aCiDBaSe: thanks for great link! Jul 25 23:07:52 I'm heading home now Jul 25 23:09:41 nite zecke Jul 25 23:41:56 03rpurdie * r842 10bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/ (__init__.py git.py svn.py): fetchers: Add runfetchcmd function to handle command execution Jul 25 23:43:42 03rpurdie * r843 10bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/svn.py: svn.py: Add latest_revision and sortable_revison functions Jul 25 23:51:51 03rpurdie * r844 10bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/git.py: git.py: Add latest_revision function Jul 26 00:05:47 03rpurdie * r845 10bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/__init__.py: fetch/__init__.py: Start to fill out FetchData Jul 26 00:46:55 what structure have a ipk ? Jul 26 00:54:31 hmmm anyone know if courier-imap is available for oe? I can't see it in the packages but I dosee some google speak about it Jul 26 01:34:17 anyone else getting dns errors for the mailing lists? Jul 26 01:34:23 Jul 26 02:33:21 mail postfix/smtp[22441]: 742E99900DF: to=, relay=none, delay=20, delays=0.2/0.01/20/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=lists.openembedded.org type=MX: Host not found, try again) Jul 26 01:51:47 Folks, any python developers online? I've installed python, and I'm getting a "ImportError: No module named inspect". Jul 26 01:52:05 you need inspect module ? Jul 26 01:53:03 psycoman: It's used in a package I'm trying to install. I haven't dug into it to see how much it is used. Jul 26 01:53:13 what package Jul 26 01:53:13 I'm trying to determine what python modules I must install. Jul 26 01:53:24 pyfacebook -- want to interface to facebook Jul 26 01:53:49 this in angstrom feed ? Jul 26 01:53:59 No, it's not. Jul 26 01:54:52 Also, I was going to try and use mechanize too, which uses urllib. I needed to look and see if that was present too Jul 26 01:55:12 search for inspect in the same feed of pyfacebook Jul 26 01:56:24 maybe dependencies is in this feed too Jul 26 01:56:46 psycoman: Is there a way to see what modules are included in what angstrom feeds? i.e. a list of what python modules come in each package Jul 26 01:57:12 normaly the name is Jul 26 01:57:21 python- Jul 26 01:57:35 So not much else might come? For instance, urllib might not be in html? Jul 26 01:58:24 urllib not in angstrom feed =/ Jul 26 01:58:40 but you can make one ^^ and publish .bb file Jul 26 01:59:29 yeah -- I definitely need mechanize. You ever played with it? Jul 26 01:59:57 make ipkgs ? Jul 26 02:00:01 how do you make a .bb? Jul 26 02:00:09 vi Jul 26 02:00:19 .bb isa a text file Jul 26 02:01:13 so I could make my own .bb for courier-imap? Jul 26 02:01:20 yeap Jul 26 02:01:33 but its not a trivial task Jul 26 02:01:50 would I need to port courier-imap first or can I just point it straight at a deb? Jul 26 02:01:52 .bb is a script to compile the program Jul 26 02:02:05 am new to this, only started today Jul 26 02:02:22 Paladine: dont worrie Jul 26 02:02:33 read Getting started in oe.org is a good start Jul 26 02:03:51 Paladine: Good luck -- I started on Saturday. You'll do fine Jul 26 02:03:52 drmikecrowe: you can get a python-.bb as example an change Jul 26 02:04:17 well I have built a few ipkg's so far and got them working on my iPAQ Jul 26 02:05:04 psycoman: Actually, I'm simply copying the missing files from /usr/lib/python2.4 that are missing (no packages -- so far I was missing dis, opcode, token, tokenize). Seems to be working Jul 26 02:05:43 for a scripted langueg can work ^^ Jul 26 02:06:13 hehe I think I am a bit inexperienced to be making my own .bb's just yet Jul 26 02:06:53 ouch php failed to build Jul 26 02:07:23 Paladine: no problem Jul 26 02:07:58 btw, im going to bed Jul 26 02:07:59 | error: flex versions supported for regeneration of the Zend/PHP parsers: 2.5.4 (found: 2.5.31). Jul 26 02:07:59 | make: *** [Zend/zend_language_scanner.c] Error 1 Jul 26 02:08:14 I guess I need to update flex? Jul 26 02:08:18 yeap Jul 26 02:08:24 on my host machine right? Jul 26 02:08:25 psycoman: No module "socket". This surprises me... Jul 26 02:08:42 sconet is for network things Jul 26 02:08:53 s/sconet/socket Jul 26 02:09:00 night all Jul 26 02:13:47 drmikecrowe: socket is in the python-io ipkg, token/tokenize/opcode/dis are in python-lang. Jul 26 02:14:20 v8jlene: I think I just found that. I thought to install twisted (because it duplicates a lot of this). Thanks! Jul 26 02:15:43 drmikecrowe: packages/python/python-2.4.4-manifest.inc lists what's in each package, you can just grep on that. Or as you've something that needs python should pull in what it needs automatically. Jul 26 02:16:07 v8jlene: That's what I was looking for! Jul 26 02:16:09 thanks Jul 26 02:16:11 "as you've found" that should say.. (very very slow internet connection here!) Jul 26 02:18:22 v8jlene: Where's "packages/python/..."? Jul 26 02:20:05 drmikecrowe: That's under the OE source code which you can get from monotone. Most people here are building OE themselves, so have that all checked out. There's probably a web interface on the web site somewhere as well. Jul 26 02:20:30 doh. I was looking on the web. Let switch Jul 26 02:31:08 hmmmm seems it is impossible to get flex above 2.5.31 ?? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 26 02:59:56 2007