**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 26 02:59:56 2007 Jul 26 06:42:45 good morning Jul 26 07:05:35 good morning all Jul 26 07:39:59 * * OE Bug 2630 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2658 by xjqian(AT)gmail.com Jul 26 07:40:01 * *  xrandr doesn't report rotation state Jul 26 07:40:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2630 Jul 26 07:46:51 morning Jul 26 07:49:13 ive a build issue, during the task do_rootfs i get Jul 26 07:49:15 ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting Jul 26 07:49:28 (and this from the logfile) Jul 26 07:49:29 log_check: There were error messages in the logfile Jul 26 07:49:29 -e log_check: Matched keyword: [Cannot find package] Jul 26 07:49:42 any one a suggestion where i can look to find out what package he cant fin d Jul 26 07:49:43 find* Jul 26 08:01:25 morning Jul 26 08:02:29 hi hrw Jul 26 08:02:39 morning all Jul 26 08:02:50 Aim2: Have a look in the log file itself Jul 26 08:03:45 i did, it only states something about Cannot find package Jul 26 08:05:27 + echo 200707260948 Jul 26 08:05:27 + log_check rootfs Jul 26 08:05:27 + set +x Jul 26 08:05:27 log_check: Using /stuff/build/tmp/work/dreambox-image-1.0-r0/temp/log.do_rootfs.14497 as logfile Jul 26 08:05:30 log_check: There were error messages in the logfile Jul 26 08:05:33 -e log_check: Matched keyword: [Cannot find package] Jul 26 08:06:15 It will say which package it couldn't find somewhere Jul 26 08:06:45 if you OE checkout has marcin's fix Jul 26 08:07:18 and good morning all Jul 26 08:07:23 morning koen Jul 26 08:07:27 good morning koen Jul 26 08:07:42 koen: im running the latest from the repos Jul 26 08:08:14 RP: afaik it doesnt say which package he is unable to find sadly Jul 26 08:10:11 my fix? which fix? Jul 26 08:11:25 that it will show the missing package Jul 26 08:11:33 the one that requires gnu grep :) Jul 26 08:12:06 ah.. old one Jul 26 08:12:56 but still an important one :) Jul 26 08:13:35 koen: that fix is also merged with the branch org.openembedded.dreambox? Jul 26 08:13:48 afaik, not Jul 26 08:13:58 ah that explains :) Jul 26 08:15:51 koen: webkit use dftables from our pcre or own one? Jul 26 08:31:36 morning Jul 26 08:31:46 ~zap lrg Jul 26 08:31:47 * ibot takes out a cattle prod and gives lrg a good jolt. Jul 26 08:32:01 good idea Jul 26 08:32:05 * Aim2 takes a zip of his redbull Jul 26 08:32:11 *yawn* Jul 26 08:32:22 morning Liam, XorA Jul 26 08:32:35 XorA: you enjoy that too much ;-) Jul 26 08:34:59 hrw: own one, because it needs UCS4 for 16bit char Jul 26 08:35:01 s Jul 26 08:35:16 hey Liam & Graeme Jul 26 08:35:30 RP: heh heh Jul 26 08:38:49 morning all Jul 26 08:43:34 XorA: http://hadessuk.blogspot.com/2007/07/all-merged.html Jul 26 08:43:43 XorA: so now cvs is more up to date :) Jul 26 08:46:49 good morning Jul 26 08:47:11 hey florian Jul 26 08:51:17 XorA: I mailed bastien about keeping the git tree up to date Jul 26 08:52:32 koen: it doesnt matter which tree as long as one is golden Jul 26 08:52:39 koen: and we know which one :-) Jul 26 08:53:11 one tree is 36 minutes old, the other 5 weeks Jul 26 08:59:13 hello all Jul 26 08:59:24 hey likewise Jul 26 09:23:13 hi zecke Jul 26 09:24:03 koen: does it works in OE now? Jul 26 09:24:13 koen: (webkit) Jul 26 09:25:06 hrw: check scap.linuxtogo.org Jul 26 09:26:19 ok Jul 26 09:36:35 re Jul 26 09:37:29 hey likewise! did you finally get the wis board? :> Jul 26 09:45:19 "I need to rebuild the git tree to be a branch of dwmw2's git mirror Jul 26 09:45:20 (better than me doing it by hand), so you're better off using the CVS Jul 26 09:45:20 for now. Watch my blog, I'll probably blog if there's anything worth a Jul 26 09:45:21 mention in the git tree" Jul 26 09:45:32 XorA: that's what bastien said Jul 26 09:45:37 Jin^eLD: nack Jul 26 09:46:10 koen: cool Jul 26 09:47:45 hrw: see the bottom of http://trac.webkit.org/projects/webkit/wiki/BuildingGdk for what is missing Jul 26 09:47:59 koen: btw, any progress on blackfin? Jul 26 09:48:17 Jin^eLD: I'm getting a board soon and will restart the blackfin work Jul 26 09:48:33 ah, cool Jul 26 09:48:39 btw, did you get the TI board already? Jul 26 09:49:17 I remember you were waiting for it to be produced, but I forgot when it was expected :) Jul 26 09:50:18 "any time now" Jul 26 09:50:53 :> Jul 26 09:50:54 Rishi guestimated 'july' Jul 26 10:06:08 I'm such a morn, I forgot to search for the script :} Jul 26 10:41:05 good morning Jul 26 10:44:24 xjqian: sorry about bug, i got the workflow process now. Jul 26 10:44:31 s/bug/bugs Jul 26 11:01:49 hey Laibsch Jul 26 11:08:26 Jin^eLD: *still* waiting for upstream acceptance... Jul 26 11:08:57 koen: what blackfin board are you getting? :) Jul 26 11:16:51 likewise: the bf537 stamp Jul 26 11:30:24 zecke: script? ;-) Jul 26 11:38:49 likewise: http://nl.farnell.com/jsp/Semiconductors/Development+Tools+&+Programming/ANALOG+DEVICES/ADZS-BF537-STAMP/displayProduct.jsp?sku=1355150 Jul 26 11:40:57 guys need some help Jul 26 11:41:17 i need to preent OE and OE based dostros to a group of about 150 devels Jul 26 11:41:31 suggest me which distros to include Jul 26 11:41:41 i have fnalist on angstrom and openmoko Jul 26 11:41:52 finalized* Jul 26 11:42:06 openmoko is based on angstrom, so you have only one finalist Jul 26 11:42:26 * XorA fires up SIlent Hill on his gp2x Jul 26 11:43:05 12:05 < zecke> I'm such a morn, I forgot to search for the script :} Jul 26 11:44:31 empty_mind, where is the presentation Jul 26 11:44:32 SlugOS Jul 26 11:45:08 Ångström and SlugOS are good examples Jul 26 11:45:10 zecke: oh ;-( guess I'll hack one myself after all ;-) Jul 26 11:46:38 psokolovsky: ls -1|vim - + global replace + save + run + check build + fix where needed? Jul 26 11:47:15 hrw: I can "lend" vim part to you ;-) Jul 26 11:48:05 psokolovsky: :%s/^\(.*\)_1.2.2.bb/mtn rename \1_1.2.2.bb \1_1.2.3.bb/g :wq Jul 26 11:48:26 hrw: of course no, it should be more smart ;-) Jul 26 11:48:56 :( Jul 26 11:49:14 anyway, it's not a problem of course, just wanted to prepare 1.2.3 the same day it was tagged, and if not, then indeed try to minimize duplicating work ;-) Jul 26 11:49:45 psokolovsky: opei still does not provide individual tarballs? Jul 26 11:49:59 nope Jul 26 11:50:03 RP, hrw, XorA, mickeyl: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002611.html Jul 26 11:51:04 koen: spitz need also gnu-tar Jul 26 11:51:32 hrw: that's why the script has 'cp gnu-tar ${IMAGE_NAME}-installkit/' Jul 26 11:51:42 ah. I overlooked it Jul 26 11:52:02 the scripts are unreadable and crap, but usefull Jul 26 11:52:05 koen: +1 from me Jul 26 11:52:27 koen: looks good to me Jul 26 11:52:27 * koen hopes someone with better shell powers will get annoyed and fix them ;) Jul 26 11:52:29 koen: but compress with gzip - so users will be able to unpack it on devices Jul 26 11:52:45 good point Jul 26 11:52:53 we have zip native, use that so the windows guys can flash Jul 26 11:53:02 winzip support tar.* Jul 26 11:53:07 +s Jul 26 11:53:11 7zip too Jul 26 11:53:28 * XorA doesnt support winzip warez Jul 26 11:54:02 koen: did you tested those scripts already? Jul 26 11:54:03 or rar so users think we are 1337 russian hackers Jul 26 11:54:42 XorA: you mean 30 1.4Meg rar files Jul 26 11:55:30 Crofton, its a presentation in a barcamp. I will be talking with developer working on mobile platforms with experince ranging from 2 yrs to 6 yrs Jul 26 11:55:42 cool Jul 26 11:55:48 what is a barcamp? Jul 26 11:55:51 Crofton, most of them working on j2me or windows mobile platform Jul 26 11:56:37 Crofton, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcamp Jul 26 11:57:14 koen: then put them inside a rar Jul 26 11:57:34 Crofton, i am going to tlak here http://barcampbangalore.org/wiki/Main_Page Jul 26 11:58:05 anyways guys any suggestions on which distros to include? Jul 26 11:58:27 empty_mind: Angstrom and SlugOS Jul 26 11:58:51 hrw, ok Jul 26 11:58:59 empty_mind: Angstrom as one-for-all-devices and SlugOS as distro with big users base Jul 26 11:59:01 hrw, and which emulators to to use Jul 26 11:59:28 empty_mind: mention that SlugOS devels works on integrating into Angstrom Jul 26 11:59:34 empty_mind: emulators? Jul 26 12:00:33 hrw, i need to show distro working on some device. As i cant take a device inside venue (due to some security issues) i am thinking of running thedistro image on some device emulator Jul 26 12:03:21 hm. Jul 26 12:03:43 there is neo1973 qemu which can be used to demo angstrom on neo Jul 26 12:03:54 there is also zaurus emulation in qemu but I never used it Jul 26 12:05:20 hrw, i have neo emulation Jul 26 12:06:54 hi Jul 26 12:06:59 empty_mind: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/fic-gta01/20070604/ has openmoko-devel-image for it Jul 26 12:07:35 hrw, you mean angstrom image for neo ? Jul 26 12:07:43 * woglinde fights with PROVIDES and RPROVIDES Jul 26 12:08:09 yes Jul 26 12:10:33 empty_mind : Could you post your presentation somewhere and place a link on OE wiki ? Jul 26 12:11:01 empty_mind : once the presentation is given of course Jul 26 12:12:21 empty_mind : did you see my last message ? Jul 26 12:12:41 koen, you should create a page on the wiki containing things that annoy you Jul 26 12:12:57 Crofton: I don't think that will fit :) Jul 26 12:13:06 I know I see the emails file the idea, forget the idea, then vaguely remmeber and have to ask in here :) Jul 26 12:13:07 Crofton: I'll suffer in silence from now on ;) Jul 26 12:13:17 Crofton: writing wiki pages annoys too ;) Jul 26 12:13:22 I mean like the --author email Jul 26 12:13:40 heh, I may have to start such a page Jul 26 12:14:09 nope Jul 26 12:14:38 it looks like the --author option is some what broken anyway Jul 26 12:14:45 hrw, which one should i download *.rootfs.jiffs2 or *.rootfs.tar.gz Jul 26 12:14:51 XorA: did you send that gthread patch to bastien/marcel? Jul 26 12:15:33 koen: crap I forgot Jul 26 12:15:42 koen: feel free to feed it up Jul 26 12:18:49 jffs2 Jul 26 12:19:20 XorA: I sent it to bastien and marcel Jul 26 12:19:44 Crofton: I always thinked that --author accept string.. Jul 26 12:25:09 koen: efika is miniITX size? Jul 26 12:26:17 koen: NOTE: package angstrom-x11-image-1.0: completed with new pkgconfig and autoconf foo Jul 26 12:26:17 hrw : no Jul 26 12:26:32 hrw : its custom size Jul 26 12:27:42 ok Jul 26 12:33:49 XorA: http://rafb.net/p/pZVZ4099.html Jul 26 12:34:43 yay Jul 26 12:34:59 XorA: same results here with autofoo and pkgconfig Jul 26 12:35:12 * XorA doesnt have a PSU to flash the Z though Jul 26 12:38:30 XorA: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002615.html Jul 26 12:44:46 koen: replied Jul 26 12:44:58 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002617.html Jul 26 13:00:58 im tring make a .bb file for a program, but i got error about some m4 files Jul 26 13:01:09 local on desctop compile works fine Jul 26 13:01:33 s/desctop/desktop Jul 26 13:01:54 how bitbake handle this ? i need copy m4 files ? Jul 26 13:15:21 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r6a838084... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh14.bb): (log message trimmed) Jul 26 13:15:21 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21-hh14: Add 2.6.21-hh14. Jul 26 13:15:21 * Changes since -hh13 are: Jul 26 13:15:21 1. gpiodev2 framework added, based on ideas of David Brownell's gpiolib Jul 26 13:15:21 (i.e. there's still scalar namespace for GPIOs, and the code and data structures Jul 26 13:15:22 for implicit dispatching to owning device; due to this, standard Genreic GPIO Jul 26 13:15:26 API can be used intact). gpiolib itself was not used as it's not submitted for Jul 26 13:15:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r207a5b2c... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-gnome_cvs.bb): bluez-gnome: re-add cvs recipe Jul 26 13:29:19 hi koen, I have a doubt about the initscripts package.... Why is it using /sbin/init.sysvinit instead of /sbin/init that is the binary that kernel call for? What is the best approach to fix this? is there any package like gcc-symlinks that creates a link to /sbin/init.sysvinit? or do we need to add this by hand? Jul 26 13:29:58 vivijim: update-alternatives should create the link AFAIK Jul 26 13:31:20 XorA: uhm but some post install script should call for update-alternatives to do that, shouldn't it? which one? Jul 26 13:33:05 vivijim: its dont when post install scripts are run during the image creation Jul 26 13:33:14 vivijim: check packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb Jul 26 13:34:00 XorA: I'll check it... thank you Jul 26 13:40:45 XorA: there is a pkg_postinst script inside sysvinit package that call the update-alternatives for halt, reboot, shutdown, last, mesg.... why doesn't it call for init one? Jul 26 13:41:38 vivijim: I beleive that is added by the update-alternatives bbclass, there is a load of ALTERNATE_ stuff at top for /sbin/init Jul 26 13:50:57 vivijim: Is this with an n800? Jul 26 13:52:06 RP actually I'm not generating the image... I'm doing a debootstrap of a rootfs and running in a OMAP1711 Jul 26 13:53:09 vivijim: There are post image creation hacks on the n770/n800 to make sure /sbin/init is not a symlink since those device's initrd's can't cope with the symlink Jul 26 13:54:01 hmm, im tring build my bb files, but i got this error: http://waldecir.no-ip.org/log.txt Jul 26 13:54:14 m4 dont stain in staging ? Jul 26 13:54:22 s/stain/stay Jul 26 13:54:34 morning Jul 26 13:55:27 psycoman: need to depend on intltool or intltool-native Jul 26 13:55:57 probably intltool-native Jul 26 13:56:15 Very little should be depending on intltool Jul 26 13:56:19 RP: uhm I didn't know that it was made by this hack... So to use my debootstrap approach I believe that I need to do something like this, or exactly the same that this post image creation hacks do... Jul 26 13:56:58 vivijim: I never did work out what the problem with the initrd that stopped the symlink wokring was Jul 26 13:57:06 morning Jul 26 13:57:10 hey mickeyl Jul 26 13:57:20 what's the "give me a login prompt without a GUI" task nowadays? Jul 26 13:57:28 (-image, that is) Jul 26 13:57:43 morning mickeyl Jul 26 13:57:46 angstrom-console-image or bootstrap-image mickeyl Jul 26 13:57:50 mickeyl: hi Jul 26 13:57:51 right Jul 26 13:57:52 thanks hrw Jul 26 13:58:15 hi Gerwin Jul 26 13:58:35 hey mickeyl Jul 26 13:58:45 mickeyl: or angstrom-minimal-image Jul 26 13:59:04 koen: hi. what's the difference between console and minimal? Jul 26 13:59:16 minimal is no networking etc - only shell boot Jul 26 13:59:18 about 6 MB Jul 26 13:59:18 XorA: inherit intltool-native ? Jul 26 13:59:31 hrw: no, it has networking Jul 26 13:59:38 psycoman: DEPEND = "intltool-native" Jul 26 13:59:43 hrw: dropbear over builtin network devices Jul 26 14:00:01 so, minimal < console ? Jul 26 14:00:09 yes Jul 26 14:00:13 k. Jul 26 14:01:11 koen: builtin in most of devices == none Jul 26 14:01:24 hrw: hwy Jul 26 14:01:41 hrw: congrats with your marriage Jul 26 14:01:42 hrw: all devices I have have either usbnet or ethernet Jul 26 14:01:45 (or both) Jul 26 14:02:11 koen: zaurus models does not have g_ether in kernel.. Jul 26 14:04:59 when i have to use inherit Jul 26 14:05:51 hi Jul 26 14:06:27 hi CoreDump|home Jul 26 14:07:21 psycoman: cdbot publishing works via emails sent to the bugzilla mailing lists. If it shows up there it should be reported by cdbot Jul 26 14:09:26 CoreDump|home: thnkx :) Jul 26 14:10:18 XorA: same error with intltool or intltool-native Jul 26 14:12:46 * * OE Bug 1707 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by waldecir(AT)gmail.com Jul 26 14:12:46 * * vsftpd bitbake build is broken with regard to SSL support Jul 26 14:12:46 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1707 Jul 26 14:15:55 maybe a my irc client issue Jul 26 14:16:37 mickeyl: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/41276146a3d53af5741d119a5c6f2b59.png Jul 26 14:17:15 mickeyl: that's openmoko-rssreader with webkit backend running on my ipaq Jul 26 14:18:10 awesome Jul 26 14:18:14 das that mean scap.linuxtogo works now? yay! Jul 26 14:18:23 lets hope zecke has time to update that once the new UI is out Jul 26 14:18:26 s/das/does... Jul 26 14:18:35 CoreDump|home: with the new gpe-scap, yes Jul 26 14:18:46 mickeyl : do you think openmoko would run on im27 from freescale ? Jul 26 14:18:52 excellent. I was missing "scap" for some time now Jul 26 14:19:46 gerwinin: i don't know that chip. anything equal to or above armv4 should work fine Jul 26 14:20:03 im27 is armv5 iirc Jul 26 14:20:32 ARM926EJ-S™ core, Jul 26 14:20:51 what is the "Retrieved remote revisions" about during openmoko builds? Jul 26 14:20:58 the i.mx27 is i.mx21 + h264 decoder Jul 26 14:21:22 cbrake: its their hack to get info about recent revs Jul 26 14:21:24 should be recipes for an mx21 kernel in OE Jul 26 14:21:25 cbrake: for SCMs that use revisions instead of dates Jul 26 14:21:38 hrw: afaik bitbake 1.9 has it as well Jul 26 14:22:15 it slows down parsing but the theory behind it has its uses IMO Jul 26 14:22:42 CoreDump|home: only when you do SRCDATE=now Jul 26 14:22:57 which only 1337 d3v3l0p3r5 do Jul 26 14:23:18 correct, but auto-including the mtn or CVS rev in the version string is not such a bad thing IMO Jul 26 14:23:39 it isn't, but only SRCDATE=now slows down parsing Jul 26 14:23:40 CoreDump|home: it is bad when you need 40 minutes for initial parse Jul 26 14:24:13 yes, parse time is annoying :\ but it's far away from 40m here Jul 26 14:24:23 I got 45m once Jul 26 14:24:27 ouch Jul 26 14:24:34 switch to gprs and see parse time getting measured in 'hours' Jul 26 14:25:33 heh, I wouldn't want to use GPRS for anything, not even simple browsing Jul 26 14:25:44 but I see your point Jul 26 14:26:14 who volunteers to write the 'SRCDATE=now considered harmfull' page? Jul 26 14:26:29 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r3dde998f... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Jul 26 14:26:29 packages/asterisk/asterisk-1.2.23 : Add asterisk 1.2.23 which has some Jul 26 14:26:29 vulnerability fixes Jul 26 14:26:36 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r7ea07470... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): packages/asterisk/asterisk-1.2.13 : remove older varsions of asterisk Jul 26 14:26:41 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * re431edb1... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.14.bb : remove old versions of asterisk Jul 26 14:26:46 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r312d2404... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.16.bb : Remove old versions of asterisk Jul 26 14:26:51 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r14541766... 10/ (1 packages/asterisk/asterisk-1.2.14): packages/asterisk/asterisk-1.2.14 : remove dir from old asterisk package Jul 26 14:26:58 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8219b550... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf conf/distro/openmoko.conf): openmoko.conf: base on angstrom-2007.1.conf Jul 26 14:27:00 steliosk: any news of the asterisk 1.4 package in bugzilla? Jul 26 14:27:18 looking at it right now Jul 26 14:27:48 needs some more work before commiting Jul 26 14:29:28 mickeyl: -PREFERRED_VERSION_poppler = "0.5.4" Jul 26 14:29:29 +# PREFERRED_VERSION_poppler = "0.5.4" Jul 26 14:29:34 mickeyl: could you revert that bit? Jul 26 14:30:57 * XorA guesses that gives it away openmoko is shifting to EFL real soon now :-) Jul 26 14:33:43 clutter and elf on the gta02 would rock Jul 26 14:34:15 efl pdf viewer is only thing that needs poppler 6.0 pre-release Jul 26 14:34:27 heh Jul 26 14:35:27 koen: clutter would be nice. but first 3d accel need to be working Jul 26 14:37:54 well mallum already wrote the dialer/calculator :-) Jul 26 14:41:00 koen: For GIT, can we specify a GIT revision hash instead of SRCDATE for checkouts? Jul 26 14:44:27 likewise: we can Jul 26 14:44:48 but it's not wise Jul 26 14:44:54 koen: why not? Jul 26 14:44:58 since git revisions aren't monotonically increasing Jul 26 14:45:10 so it screws up your package manager Jul 26 14:45:37 koen: did I told that I will use tag in PV/PR? Jul 26 14:45:57 ah, sorry I misread it Jul 26 14:46:06 ok, so tag works for GIT revision # Jul 26 14:46:08 ? Jul 26 14:46:11 likewise: ;tag= Jul 26 14:46:24 tnx Jul 26 15:00:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r590d553c... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jul 26 15:00:58 clutter: rename to clutter-glx so we can have different flavours of clutter Jul 26 15:00:58 * Needs a fix for pkgconfig, but it's a nice first step Jul 26 15:02:34 koen: checked clutter recipes in poky? Jul 26 15:11:54 We should rename clutter in poky to clutter-egl-native... Jul 26 15:14:25 hrw: afaik the one in OE is copied from poky Jul 26 15:14:31 koen: Does this mean all clutter apps are going to be machine specific? Jul 26 15:14:35 koen: and changed Jul 26 15:15:01 RP: my goal is to have clutter apps be backend specific Jul 26 15:15:08 e.g table-glx, table-egl Jul 26 15:15:21 using u-a or renaming the binary Jul 26 15:15:32 So we'll need three .bb files? Jul 26 15:15:44 ah, hmm :/ Jul 26 15:16:25 one .inc and try .bb files including it Jul 26 15:16:36 e.g. like fftw now does Jul 26 15:16:47 not great, but I don't have a better idea atm Jul 26 15:16:59 * RP neither :-( Jul 26 15:18:15 koen: The other options is make them machine specific, have each backend provide clutter and use PREFERRED_PROVIDER_clutter on a per machine basis Jul 26 15:18:43 that breaks is people change e.g. ABI on arm Jul 26 15:19:04 I don't understand what you mean? Jul 26 15:19:31 clutterapp_machine.ipk being a few different things Jul 26 15:19:57 I still don't follow Jul 26 15:20:01 well, people changing ABI have bigger things to worry about, anyway Jul 26 15:20:20 Changing ABI breaks all your packages? Jul 26 15:20:52 RP: say I want an OABI build for cm-270, angstrom tags all packages with arm-oabi, but not machine specific packages Jul 26 15:21:09 convoluted problem Jul 26 15:21:25 but what to do with machines that can provide multiple backends Jul 26 15:21:33 like e.g. efika Jul 26 15:21:42 That OABI problem is really a problem with the way angtrom is working... Jul 26 15:21:49 That question is tricker Jul 26 15:22:21 I have a patch for add -oabi to MACHINE_ARCH :) Jul 26 15:22:28 s/for/to/ Jul 26 15:23:00 Angstrom should really just use separate feeds for that Jul 26 15:23:23 it does already Jul 26 15:23:40 You just want to stop people crossing them? Jul 26 15:23:46 yes Jul 26 15:23:59 fair enough I guess Jul 26 15:24:19 "I added this feed I found and ..." Jul 26 15:24:38 I'll think abut clutter a bit more in the kitchen Jul 26 15:24:44 bbl, preparing food Jul 26 15:24:46 ok :) Jul 26 15:25:19 * hrw goes to celebrate - bye Jul 26 15:25:59 * likewise goes to have dinner - bye Jul 26 15:26:28 * gerwinin goes to a bbq Jul 26 15:34:53 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rd3d2de82... 10/ (1 classes/magicbox-image.bbclass): Jul 26 15:34:53 classes/magicbox-image.bbclass : Fix a problem with "tail" which failed during fs creation Jul 26 15:34:53 for magicbox Jul 26 15:34:58 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rd3e1ee68... 10/ (1 conf/machine/xilinx-ml403.conf): conf/machine/xilinx-ml403.conf : Change url for board description Jul 26 15:35:03 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r27a6726f... 10/ (1 conf/machine/xilinx-ml410.conf): Jul 26 15:35:03 conf/machine/xilinx-ml410.conf : Initial commit for a machine file for the Xilinx ML410 dev Jul 26 15:35:03 board Jul 26 15:37:04 steliosk, my understanding is the kernels for the xilinx board require some configuration based on how the FPGA is configured? Jul 26 15:37:21 yes Jul 26 15:40:07 how are you handling this in your checkins? Making a "reasonable" assumption? Jul 26 15:40:47 Well i try to use the same setup/config that the board shipped from xilinx Jul 26 15:40:59 ok Jul 26 15:41:13 in this way you can get a "compatible" system which is build from OE Jul 26 15:41:36 after that its every developer for him self Jul 26 15:41:48 :) Jul 26 15:41:58 so we can build something that works from OE Jul 26 15:42:09 can you distribute the kernel patch? Jul 26 15:42:18 so we can build a working kernel from OE? Jul 26 15:45:51 Crofton: you wouldn't have a recipe for gnuradio lying around, would you? Jul 26 15:46:01 yes Jul 26 15:46:07 but it does not work .... Jul 26 15:46:31 koen, should I push what I have? Jul 26 15:46:47 please do Jul 26 15:46:49 it builds, but last time I tried it on the Efika it didn;t run Jul 26 15:46:52 I'll have a look at it later Jul 26 15:47:04 I get time about once every couple of weeks Jul 26 15:47:12 who is looking for one? Jul 26 15:47:37 I'm on a signalprocessing spree :) Jul 26 15:47:41 cool Jul 26 15:48:14 YES!!! it's working ... my CANopen ioslave :) Jul 26 15:57:35 bitbake doesn't realize there can be two different directories called 'pachtes' in svn, so it doesn't download the one from branches because it has the current one from trunk Jul 26 15:58:31 so how can i keep two directories from svn with the same module name separate Jul 26 16:07:51 Shoragan: try bitbake 1.9 (aka trunk), that should fix it Jul 26 16:08:13 Shoragan: and http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002623.html Jul 26 16:08:16 this it for openmoko Jul 26 16:08:43 ah Jul 26 16:11:11 there is a fix for this in trunk, or the workaround mentioned in your mail? Jul 26 16:12:22 my problem is that different SRC_URIs are not kept separate in sources/svn/.../ Jul 26 16:13:37 right, bitbake 1.9 has a fix for that Jul 26 16:13:49 and openmoko should seriously consider using that patch script Jul 26 16:16:56 hmm, openmoko mtd-utils is broke -- had the same problem with a customer build the other day. It must not be pulling a tagged version from git. Jul 26 16:17:30 cbrake: in practice no-one is maintaining the svn overlay anymore Jul 26 16:17:43 cbrake: AFAIK even mickeyl builds from .dev now Jul 26 16:17:51 (which have mtdutils fixed) Jul 26 16:19:04 cbrake: fixed yesterday Jul 26 16:19:17 koen: Of course pulled from oe to keep in sync Jul 26 16:21:47 koen: And yes, I'm eager waiting for removing our overlay. :) Jul 26 16:22:51 koen: bitbake 1.8 svn has that fix too Jul 26 16:23:45 henryk_afc: I merged more bits working towards svn now support, did you get a chance to look at the patch any further after our last discussion? Jul 26 16:26:52 RP: I know, but 1.9 also has the remote revision thing, right? Jul 26 16:27:11 koen, gnuradio is in Jul 26 16:27:23 koen: I've started implementing it, its no where near compeletion Jul 26 16:27:49 koen: The svn and git fetchers have the stubs we need, they don't connect to anything yet Jul 26 16:28:11 Crofton: thanks Jul 26 16:28:17 some .bb expert quem help me with this issue http://waldecir.no-ip.org/log.txt Jul 26 16:28:27 RP: ah, sorry, I though it was merged fully Jul 26 16:28:33 I also sent you an email with some testing suggestions Jul 26 16:28:46 gnuradio is not very cross/install friendly atm Jul 26 16:30:38 koen: When it is, I plan to dump the fetcher from 1.9 onto 1.8 ;-) Jul 26 16:30:54 Thankfully its fairly standalone code :} Jul 26 16:30:59 RP: wouldn't such a big change also warrent version bump? Jul 26 16:31:02 warrant* Jul 26 16:31:37 koen: I'm going to say no, other than the standard stable tree releases Jul 26 16:31:51 it's cosmetics anyway :) Jul 26 16:32:03 minor feature backport ;-) Jul 26 16:32:59 koen: please do test 1.8 svn head though, I'm relying on people doing that a bit to catch problems Jul 26 16:33:14 RP: I've been testing 1.8 head for a few months now :) Jul 26 16:33:21 koen: great :) Jul 26 16:33:33 bitbake:/data/build/oe/bitbake# svn up Jul 26 16:33:34 At revision 845. Jul 26 16:34:24 * koen is rebuilding a bunch of kernels to get the modutils changes Jul 26 16:35:34 RP: didn't ross have a similar intltool problem as psycoman ? Jul 26 16:36:25 koen: I don't remember that... Jul 26 16:36:41 psycoman: At a guess it looks like the intltool .m4 file is missing Jul 26 16:37:34 i put depends intltool in my BB and same problem Jul 26 16:37:59 psycoman: intltool-native Jul 26 16:38:11 i do it too Jul 26 16:38:13 same problem Jul 26 16:38:30 sorry my bad english :) Jul 26 16:38:57 i put intltool-native, and intltool too, same problem Jul 26 16:40:25 psycoman: ok, you need to find out why the .m4 file that defines that macro isn't being included Jul 26 16:41:08 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rf4725b57... 10/ (1 packages/gnuradio packages/gnuradio/gnuradio_svn.bb): Jul 26 16:41:08 gnuradio_svn.bb : First pass at adding support for GNU Radio. Still needs Jul 26 16:41:08 debugging. Jul 26 16:43:07 RP: i have no problem if i compile it manually in desktop system Jul 26 16:43:30 RP: im new in linux-develop tools soo, i dont know very well i have to do Jul 26 16:44:21 psycoman: You will have to find someone with the time to talk you through debugging it then. Much as I'd like to, I don't know that area of code well enough offhand to do it :/ Jul 26 16:45:20 i think, i need read more abou bitbake after make some bb files Jul 26 16:45:36 psycoman: This is more of an autoconf issue Jul 26 16:45:56 RP: yeap but only occurs if i make with bitbake Jul 26 17:05:09 why would userpass.so miss in ppp package ? Jul 26 17:07:19 rob__w: not built, not installed? Jul 26 17:09:01 hmm i cant even find sources inside of ppp-2.4.3 for such lib Jul 26 17:16:03 ah i miss capi4k-utils Jul 26 18:56:58 How can I figure out what is causing a " No buildable providers available for required build target" error or better yet, force it to try to build? Jul 26 18:58:49 bitbake bla -D Jul 26 19:33:23 hi Jul 26 19:34:07 hey Bernardo Jul 26 20:54:18 joshin: bitbake -DDD will give more info Jul 26 21:03:39 psokolovsky: I have the script Jul 26 21:03:42 psokolovsky: interested? Jul 26 21:08:32 psokolovsky: http://paste.lisp.org/display/45181 Jul 26 21:10:39 I am getting a weird error for lists.openembedded.org when I try and email them Jul 26 21:10:51 Jul 26 22:09:23 mail postfix/smtp[8260]: 79D339900E2: to=, relay=none, delay=20, delays=0.09/0.01/20/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=lists.openembedded.org type=MX: Host not found, try again) Jul 26 21:11:25 but nslookup is reporting 85.214.40.226 for lists.openembedded.org Jul 26 21:11:38 anyone else able to mail the user list? Jul 26 21:13:58 I mailed -devel earlier today, so I have no idea Jul 26 21:14:07 Paladine: and it looks like the dns bill is paid Jul 26 21:14:23 this was happening last night too Jul 26 21:14:45 I am unable to send mail to Jul 26 21:15:24 am trying to find out if anyone has an OE package for courier-imap Jul 26 21:16:00 if there isn#t a packages/courier* then it is unlikely there is one Jul 26 21:16:20 how do I go about requesting one? Jul 26 21:16:27 I don't have the skills or experience to do it myself Jul 26 21:17:04 Paladine: requesting is a hard thing in a volunteer project. You could file a wishlist item at bugs.openembedded.org Jul 26 21:17:24 k Jul 26 21:17:31 Paladine: or find someone to create it for you, and yes chat or wishlistitem+mail could work in finding someone Jul 26 21:18:03 I couldn't install php yesterday either Jul 26 21:18:23 I managed to build it fine but when I try to install it I get sent around in dependency and recommended circles Jul 26 21:19:01 Paladine: I'm by no means a php expert, two things to do: file a bug report, as you say installing check if there is a distro support channel Jul 26 21:19:04 bbl Jul 26 21:29:21 * ljp doesnt have to code much php anymore Jul 26 21:31:11 ljp licky Jul 26 21:31:14 am not trying to code php :p Jul 26 21:31:14 arh lucky Jul 26 21:31:22 I hate php Jul 26 21:31:26 I am trying to install it on my ipaq for my webserver Jul 26 21:31:36 i like it. its a lot like c++ Jul 26 21:31:46 I managed to install it now, but I can't get mysql-client installed Jul 26 21:32:30 I think ipkg is trying to install from the angstrom repo instead of the package I give it Jul 26 21:32:35 Installing mysql-client (4.1.18-r2) to root... Jul 26 21:32:35 Nothing to be done Jul 26 21:32:35 Collected errors: Jul 26 21:32:35 Multiple packages (mysql-client and mysql-client) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Jul 26 21:32:35 Package mysql-client md5sum mismatch. Either the ipkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'ipkg update'. Jul 26 21:33:10 if ipkg update dont resolvr, rm /var/lib/ipkg can resolve :) Jul 26 21:33:14 is it possible to stop ipkg from connecting to the angstrom repo? Jul 26 21:34:31 I removed the ipkg directory from /var/lib but I still get the same error Jul 26 21:35:18 I don't want ipkg to update from the angstrom repo because none of the angstrom packages work on my rx3115 Jul 26 21:35:28 thats why I am building the packages myself with OE Jul 26 21:36:14 everything I install from the angstrom packages gives me an "Illegal Operation" error everytime I try and run them Jul 26 21:37:20 Paladine: paste the error message Jul 26 21:37:24 ~pastebin Jul 26 21:37:25 it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well Jul 26 21:37:47 its ok I rm'd /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/ Jul 26 21:37:55 hi Jul 26 21:38:03 you need delete files in Jul 26 21:38:10 /var/lib/ipkg Jul 26 21:38:21 yeah I did that but it made no difference Jul 26 21:39:09 I am building an OE based distro on a big endian host and my resulting jffs2 image is big endian but should be little endian? has the distro maker made a mistake? how can I influence the endianness of the jffs2 root image? Jul 26 21:39:47 paste the erro Jul 26 21:41:25 its no error at all Jul 26 21:41:43 mkimage is building big endian because its on bigeandian Jul 26 21:41:45 I guess Jul 26 21:42:30 psycoman: yeah there is no error to be shown except the target device complaining that it cannot find some magic block Jul 26 21:43:00 I used my host jffs2dump to reverse the endianness and everythings fine Jul 26 21:44:02 but that does not solve the issue. :) Jul 26 21:44:07 rschuste2: im talking about Paladine problem Jul 26 21:44:17 psycoman oh sorry Jul 26 21:44:26 psycoman: oh sorry :) Jul 26 21:44:33 rschuste2 hm please file bug Jul 26 21:44:34 dont worrie Jul 26 21:44:43 but I am not sure its agains bitbake or oe Jul 26 21:44:49 hmmmm now when I try and install mysql-server it just hangs Jul 26 21:45:50 rschuste2 you can look at oedir/classes/image.bb Jul 26 21:46:01 there is bbimage called Jul 26 21:46:47 ipkg update Jul 26 21:46:52 woglinde: thanks I investigate that further Jul 26 21:46:53 ipkg upgrade Jul 26 21:46:58 ipkg install mysql-server Jul 26 21:47:04 woglinde: would be cool if I can provide a patch :) Jul 26 21:48:06 ah it seems bbimage didnt check about endianess Jul 26 21:48:12 and there is no switch Jul 26 21:48:27 so its bug against bitbake Jul 26 21:49:00 hm Jul 26 21:49:08 woglinde: what can $type be? Jul 26 21:49:09 maybee I am too fast Jul 26 21:49:16 jffs2 tar.gz Jul 26 21:51:00 ahits ok I can use mysql client to connect to my remote database :) Jul 26 21:51:12 Paladine: make a Jul 26 21:51:23 strace -fF ipkg install mysql-server Jul 26 21:51:31 woglinde: I am wondering how bbimage deals the other important jffs2 specific flags like erase block size etc ... Jul 26 21:51:31 and paste it in pastebin plz ? Jul 26 21:52:34 even strace just hangs Jul 26 21:52:58 its no biggy I wasn't too keen on running the mysql server on the ipaq anyway Jul 26 21:53:10 better for system resources to just connect to the remote server Jul 26 21:53:31 rschuste2 its in image_cmd Jul 26 21:53:35 Paladine: you can tri sqlite btw Jul 26 21:53:40 s/tri/try Jul 26 21:54:15 I have a lot of databases, converting them to sqllite would be a serious pain, I understand sqllite has issues with NOT NULL Jul 26 21:55:26 what pda you have ? Jul 26 21:55:35 ipaq rx3115 Jul 26 21:55:44 am setting it up as a web/mail server Jul 26 21:56:44 nice Jul 26 22:01:42 rschuste2 please look into the log.do_rootfs Jul 26 22:01:45 file Jul 26 22:01:52 in image-bla/temp/ Jul 26 22:01:59 woglinde: will do Jul 26 22:02:28 * Bernardo is away: Ausente por agora. Jul 26 22:02:35 mkfs.jffs2 -x lzo --root ... --little-endian Jul 26 22:02:39 its for simpad Jul 26 22:07:01 woglinde: mkfs.jffs2 -x lzo --root=/home/rob/devel/openmoko/build/tmp/rootfs Jul 26 22:07:02 --faketime --output=/blafoobaz/openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070726201305.rootfs.jffs2 --eraseblock=0x4000 --pad -n Jul 26 22:07:15 no mentioning of endianness Jul 26 22:07:33 hehe okay Jul 26 22:07:40 than its problem of openmoko svn Jul 26 22:08:13 woglinde: ahh! Jul 26 22:08:39 EXTRA_IMAGECMD_jffs2 = "--little-endian Jul 26 22:08:58 woglinde: right thats it Jul 26 22:09:13 their EXTRA_IMAGECMD_jffs2 is missing that Jul 26 22:09:21 :) Jul 26 22:09:29 woglinde: thanks for the help! Jul 26 22:10:30 hehe Jul 26 22:10:39 bo prob Jul 26 22:16:56 Hello! Its been a while since I've used OE. Previously i built GPE on the hx4700 Jul 26 22:18:09 I have a compulab cm_x270 and there have been a few people to successfully build GPE on it. Does anyone here have experience with the compulab cm-x270? Jul 26 22:18:46 Is familiar Linux still used? I've heard something about Angstrom recently... Jul 26 22:32:16 hi mithro Jul 26 22:32:36 hey woglinde Jul 26 22:32:55 justindnb nobody really cares about familar Jul 26 22:33:22 here are some people which doing stuff with the compulap Jul 26 22:33:31 but they arent here right now Jul 26 22:39:45 good night Jul 26 22:42:57 its ok to make a swap partition on my sd card right? angstrom will be able to use it if I do swapon right? Jul 26 22:43:34 nite florian Jul 26 22:44:13 if you want extremly shorten the life time of you sd card put it on Jul 26 22:44:50 why would it shorten the life any more than running the entire system on the SD card, that makes no sense Jul 26 22:45:17 since ramfs is using the sd card how is it any different? Jul 26 22:45:31 ??? Jul 26 22:45:42 have you look what ramfs is for? Jul 26 22:45:59 or why it is called ramfs? Jul 26 22:46:05 I know that when I check the system everything is mounted from the sd card Jul 26 22:46:19 so as I said, how is running swap on it any different? Jul 26 22:46:32 tmpis on it already Jul 26 22:46:56 because swap is making fast read an writes? Jul 26 22:47:24 faster than just put something in the /var/log files? Jul 26 22:47:27 so how do you use swap on a pda then which only has 64MB of ram? Jul 26 22:47:41 I dont use swap Jul 26 22:47:49 bescause it makes no sense Jul 26 22:47:58 and 64 mb is enough for most apps Jul 26 22:48:02 dont run firefox on it Jul 26 22:48:07 let me rephrase, how -would- someone enable swap on a PDA with only SD card and 64MB RAM Jul 26 22:48:52 I only run it in console mode but my intention is to make it a web/mail server so I want to enable swap on it Jul 26 22:49:58 I sugest you try the netblock-driver and put swap over net Jul 26 22:50:35 I was thinking of maybe using swap over an nfs type system Jul 26 22:50:52 swap-over-nfs didnt really work Jul 26 22:50:54 another problem I have had is fdisk in linux will only see my 2GB SD card as 1GB Jul 26 22:51:14 hm Jul 26 22:51:19 if I format the card in windows and then plug it into linux it sees it as 2GB Jul 26 22:51:33 but if I try and fdisk it in linux it only sees it as 1GB Jul 26 22:52:04 sorry hm yes there are sometimes problems with this under linux Jul 26 22:52:13 polyonymous: psokolovsky : check my paste.lisp.org from above to do the renaming Jul 26 22:52:19 did you try on the pda or a host system? Jul 26 22:52:34 fdisk? Jul 26 22:52:39 yes fdisk Jul 26 22:52:41 I have only tried fdisk on linux Jul 26 22:52:51 maybee its driver problem of the pda-kernel Jul 26 22:52:53 with the card plugged into my reader Jul 26 22:52:53 zecke|zzzZzzzzZZ, thanks Jul 26 22:52:59 ah okay Jul 26 22:53:02 which kernel? Jul 26 22:53:15 Linux mail.paladine.org.uk 2.6.22-5-generic #1 SMP Sat May 19 01:01:22 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux Jul 26 22:53:18 zecke|zzzZzzzzZZ, why lisp? :) Jul 26 22:53:24 http://paste.lisp.org/display/45181 Jul 26 22:53:30 we use that webkit.org Jul 26 22:53:35 paladine hm okay thats fairly new Jul 26 22:53:39 polyonymous: rather nice as it posts to the channel Jul 26 22:53:47 yup, found it. It just that it looks like python :) Jul 26 22:54:26 polyonymous: change 1.2.2 to 1.2.3 and 1.2.1 to 1.2.2 Jul 26 22:54:32 polyonymous: then python -i Jul 26 22:54:35 impor the script Jul 26 22:54:42 invoke the 'main'/last method Jul 26 22:54:55 zecke|zzzZzzzzZZ, got it. I haven't really read it yet, but saved already ;-) Jul 26 22:55:39 polyonymous: I normally ran the script and made hrw and mickeyl fix the issues (patches that don't apply anymore) Jul 26 22:56:12 zecke|zzzZzzzzZZ, sound like quite a bit of work for them :) Jul 26 22:58:17 is zecke talking in his sleep, then? Jul 26 22:59:04 yes Jul 26 23:13:47 woglinde: awesome! are the compulab peeps around frequently? Jul 27 00:29:48 I hvae finshed Harry Potter Jul 27 01:08:42 anyone knowhow to fix this Jul 27 01:08:43 Starting Lighttpd Web Server: can't handle '$HTTP[url] =~ ...' as you compiled without pcre support. Jul 27 01:08:44 (perhaps just a missing pcre-devel package ?) Jul 27 01:18:19 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r4f62ad16... 10/ (162 files in 162 dirs): opie-*: Add 1.2.3. Jul 27 01:18:26 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2769924a... 10/ (8 files in 7 dirs): opie: Add 1.2.3. Jul 27 01:18:30 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd7b91fec... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-opie-versions-1.2.3.inc): preferred-opie-versions-1.2.3.inc: Add missing packages. Jul 27 01:26:59 * * OE Bug 2212 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 27 01:27:00 * *  OPIE: IrDA doesn't work properly Jul 27 01:27:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2212 Jul 27 01:31:59 * * OE Bug 2688 has been created by  Jul 27 01:32:01 * * OPIE: feature requests Jul 27 01:32:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2688 Jul 27 01:40:59 * * OE Bug 2332 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 27 01:41:01 * *  fix angstroem uclibc for collie and simpad Jul 27 01:41:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 Jul 27 01:46:59 * * OE Bug 2478 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by Jul 27 01:47:01 * *  module packages should 'inherit module' Jul 27 01:47:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2478 Jul 27 01:50:46 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r9d6f91ed... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): preferred-opie-versions-1.2.4-pre.inc: Create from preferred-opie-versions-1.2.3-pre.inc Jul 27 01:57:12 Paladine: missin prce-devel /s Jul 27 01:58:22 yeah I figured that, something just totally hosed the file system on the ipaq though Jul 27 01:58:23 Paladine: tomorrow i will make this ipkg for me too. ti you want i can pass .bb file to you Jul 27 01:58:35 whole bunch of deleted inodes re: lighttpd Jul 27 01:58:53 just reinstalling the file system now Jul 27 01:59:24 ok, im going to bed Jul 27 01:59:26 I found the pcre package, it was in tmp/deploy Jul 27 01:59:27 bye Jul 27 01:59:40 Ijust didn't copy it over before trying to install lighttpd Jul 27 01:59:42 night man Jul 27 02:15:28 hello. Jul 27 02:16:21 is shadow utils never going to be a part of OE packages? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 27 02:59:56 2007