**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 27 02:59:56 2007 Jul 27 03:24:43 hello Jul 27 06:48:28 if i need busybox 1.6.1 and its missing in the tree, do i file a bugreport? Jul 27 06:49:00 ive created my own bb file for it and it seems to be working (with the patches that i need). Jul 27 06:54:11 hello? Jul 27 06:57:48 m9dhatter: submit it to bugtracker Jul 27 06:58:01 m9dhatter: as mtn diff would be best Jul 27 07:00:39 hrw|gone: ok. as it is a hastily written (mostly copy pasted) bb file, i sure hope this gets reviewed. Jul 27 07:02:38 sure Jul 27 07:02:47 I have busybox 1.6.x in todo Jul 27 07:04:42 this is all because of a bug i encountered in busybox 1.6.0. i'm detailing the bugreport now. Jul 27 07:10:40 bye Jul 27 07:23:38 * koen notices OE has sdcc-native Jul 27 07:25:13 how do i do an mtn diff? Jul 27 07:25:25 'mtn diff' Jul 27 07:26:44 says "no changes". i know i added some files in there. Jul 27 07:28:25 goodmorning all Jul 27 07:28:35 did you 'mtn add -R' ? Jul 27 07:28:38 hey steliosk Jul 27 07:29:10 ahh. i knew i missed something. thanks. Jul 27 07:42:05 'mtn list unknown' will tell you about them Jul 27 07:45:22 morning all Jul 27 07:45:59 hey RP Jul 27 08:08:59 * * OE Bug 2689 has been created by m9dhatter(AT)gmail.com Jul 27 08:09:01 * * busybox 1.6.0 adduser fails to actually add users Jul 27 08:09:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2689 Jul 27 08:11:22 morning Jul 27 08:17:50 morning Jul 27 08:28:29 RP, XorA, hrw|gone: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002629.html Jul 27 08:29:29 koen: looks good, dont have time to devoce the shell, but the idea is good Jul 27 08:30:39 koen: looks good Jul 27 08:30:56 Yes, looks reasonable Jul 27 08:31:55 we will need to update m4 to 1.4.9 before switch to it Jul 27 08:33:45 what changed since 1.4.8? Jul 27 08:34:10 no idea but if we change to newer then let it be newest Jul 27 08:35:29 let's switch to the tested 1.4.8 first Jul 27 08:35:51 I just built poky with newest stuff from OE Jul 27 08:35:59 autoconf 2.61, automake 1.10, m4 1.4.8, pkg-config 0.22 Jul 27 08:36:37 automake 1.10 breaks some packages Jul 27 08:36:41 e.g. fftw* Jul 27 08:40:55 make 3.80 too Jul 27 08:42:16 hrw: bastards, 1.4.8 was latest when I made the change Jul 27 08:42:55 XorA: I know - I did that change in same time Jul 27 08:43:45 make 3.81 builds with automake 1.10 Jul 27 08:44:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r24e34adb... 10/ (1 packages/fftw/fftw.inc): fftw.inc: automake 1.10 workaround Jul 27 08:44:57 you ugly Jul 27 08:45:13 I just started looking at it ;D Jul 27 08:45:27 it now fails in do_compile Jul 27 08:45:39 so automake 1.10 still doesn't work with fftw Jul 27 08:52:16 | Makefile:483: *** missing separator. Stop. Jul 27 08:52:21 that one? Jul 27 09:17:55 did some of you do a make check in autoconf-native yet? Jul 27 09:19:07 zecke: ? Jul 27 09:19:39 if you upgrade autoconf versions it would make sense comparing the results of the unit tests? Jul 27 09:19:54 ah. right Jul 27 09:20:10 no, I did not made such tests yet Jul 27 09:20:26 the only thing failing in 2.59 is our size_of test because it works when cross compiling :) Jul 27 09:48:24 hrw: yes, the seperator one Jul 27 09:50:35 is there a decent howto out there for building a new kernel and rootfs? I want to try and trim out all the stuff I don't need Jul 27 09:53:59 * * OE Bug 2690 has been created by  Jul 27 09:54:01 * * Script to make zaurus images usable Jul 27 09:54:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2690 Jul 27 09:56:15 hrw, RP, XorA, polyonymous: please attached fixes to the script to that bug :) Jul 27 10:03:24 koen: Commit messages like that are antagonsitic Jul 27 10:04:46 s/commit messages/bug titles/ Jul 27 10:05:03 RP: sorry, that was not my intent Jul 27 10:05:43 koen: right, but it could be taken the wrong way :/ Jul 27 10:06:34 what do you do with people who want stable releases Jul 27 10:06:49 Crofton: throw them overboard Jul 27 10:06:50 but also want to you to make only the changes they want to code? Jul 27 10:07:06 Crofton: ask them in a polite way what is wrong with the other releases Jul 27 10:07:19 the stable release they do not use? Jul 27 10:07:30 or the unstable release Jul 27 10:07:31 koen: Are we going to create a new task or just add this to do_rootfs? Jul 27 10:08:15 RP: my original idea what EXTRA_IMAGECMD = " ; zaurus-tarball.sh " Jul 27 10:08:30 s/what/was/ Jul 27 10:08:58 if you have a better way, lets do that Jul 27 10:09:30 koen: I'll see if I can create a path over the weekend Jul 27 10:09:46 thanks Jul 27 10:18:29 good afternoon Jul 27 10:18:40 hey oxo Jul 27 10:18:48 * oxo discovered that 'sysklogd' refuses to build on nslu2be Jul 27 10:19:07 http://rafb.net/p/gEdy1j48.html Jul 27 10:20:01 * oxo will file a bug Jul 27 10:23:58 * * OE Bug 2691 has been created by jorik(AT)kippendief.biz Jul 27 10:24:00 * * Sysklogd fails to build Jul 27 10:24:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2691 Jul 27 10:25:41 | ksym_mod.c:96:26: error: linux/module.h: No such file or directory Jul 27 10:26:10 check Jul 27 10:35:47 lrg: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/33716 Jul 27 10:41:40 strange, gnuradio looks like it has a decently engineered buildsystem Jul 27 10:42:25 they aren't stupid Jul 27 10:42:36 of course it is one source tree for everything Jul 27 10:42:49 and you run the examples from the build tree Jul 27 10:43:06 usually stuff like this has one makefile that breaks when crosscompiling Jul 27 10:43:20 heh Jul 27 10:43:40 what target are you using? Jul 27 10:43:51 c7x0 Jul 27 10:43:54 so armv5te Jul 27 10:43:54 hi all Jul 27 10:43:58 cool Jul 27 10:43:59 hey florian Jul 27 10:44:15 It will be nice to get the dial tone example going Jul 27 10:44:26 ~change 700 usd to eur Jul 27 10:44:36 10 euro Jul 27 10:44:59 /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gnuradio-0.0+svn20070727-r0/trunk/gr-trellis/doc/../../gr-trellis/doc/gr-trellis.xml:6: warning: failed to load external entity "/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gnuradio-0.0+svn20070727-r0/trunk/gr-trellis/doc/docbookx.dtd" Jul 27 10:45:16 that's where it fails to build Jul 27 10:45:29 Crofton: do I need a usrp for the dialtone example? Jul 27 10:45:33 no Jul 27 10:45:45 it adds two sine waves and sends it to audio Jul 27 10:46:01 hmmm Jul 27 10:46:05 513 euro and some change Jul 27 10:46:44 * Crofton cries Jul 27 10:48:24 * koen tries a workaround Jul 27 10:48:47 sometimes you can configure out troublesome bits Jul 27 10:49:29 http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org/msg06190.html Jul 27 10:50:19 I wonder why it works for me Jul 27 10:50:25 * Crofton shoud check it still works .... Jul 27 10:53:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re1ad326d... 10/ (1 packages/gnuradio/gnuradio_svn.bb): gnuradio: set PV Jul 27 10:58:15 help2man? Jul 27 10:59:13 argh.. WGA suxx Jul 27 11:03:11 heh heh Jul 27 11:10:39 needs of vendor cd also suxx Jul 27 11:16:40 Crofton: apt-get install help2man Jul 27 11:16:55 yum install help2man Jul 27 11:16:58 :) Jul 27 11:17:06 must be new addition to insane Jul 27 11:17:57 yes Jul 27 11:18:03 newer autotools needs it Jul 27 11:18:07 ah Jul 27 11:18:13 dependencies suck Jul 27 11:25:13 * koen discovers ionice Jul 27 11:32:37 * Crofton discovers his svn backup done via svk really did work Jul 27 11:36:12 grrr Jul 27 11:36:20 dead battery in my fluke Jul 27 11:39:49 Packaged contents of gnuradio into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv5te/gnuradio_3.0.4+svn20070727-r0_armv5te.ipk Jul 27 11:47:33 heh Jul 27 11:48:55 I'm going to change packaging a bit Jul 27 11:50:12 yeah Jul 27 11:50:30 They run the axmaples from teh source tree Jul 27 11:50:35 like make it actually package the python files it needs :) Jul 27 11:50:42 yeah Jul 27 11:50:58 When you are done, I'll try on Efika again Jul 27 11:51:15 they are trying to build native on the PS3, but stuff seg faults Jul 27 11:51:23 I suspect crappy tool chains Jul 27 11:51:29 or something Jul 27 11:51:46 have sony send all OE devs a PS3 :) Jul 27 11:52:02 we should do that Jul 27 11:52:44 minus the controllers and game operating system :) Jul 27 11:52:50 so we do not stop working Jul 27 11:53:00 gah Jul 27 11:53:04 PS3 is 599 eur Jul 27 11:53:08 PS2 is 129 eur Jul 27 11:53:27 ~change 500 usd to euro Jul 27 11:54:02 364 euro here Jul 27 11:54:04 293 euro Jul 27 11:55:04 ~change 425 gbp to eur Jul 27 11:55:21 600-ish Jul 27 11:55:33 koen == ibot ? Jul 27 11:55:43 no, just got back from the UK :) Jul 27 11:56:00 sony take the mick with PS3 here Jul 27 12:01:18 2359 pln for ps3 here Jul 27 12:01:37 about 800 usd, 600 eur Jul 27 12:12:34 Crofton: http://pastebin.com/m33d15f9e Jul 27 12:13:49 hmm, can you run the qa packages after installation? Jul 27 12:15:31 have you pushed this? I won't be able to try until next week though Jul 27 12:15:42 today I have to deal with political stuff Jul 27 12:15:52 pushing it right now Jul 27 12:17:27 Crofton: TODO: use tarball releases, build more plugins (alsa, jack, sdl, qui, etc) Jul 27 12:17:50 yeah Jul 27 12:19:43 im tring which varible in BB file will return to me the stagin path, like this : /oe/build/tmp/angstrom/staging/i686-linux/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ Jul 27 12:19:47 ? Jul 27 12:20:59 ${STAGING_LIBDIR} for /lib and ${STAGING_INCDIR} or /include Jul 27 12:21:23 sorry koen can you send your last messages again ? Jul 27 12:21:34 ${STAGING_LIBDIR} for /lib and ${STAGING_INCDIR} or /include Jul 27 12:22:54 i need this path becouse this file tclConfig.sh is in Jul 27 12:23:57 to configure tcl stuffs Jul 27 12:31:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r74a604fc... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Jul 27 12:31:38 gnuradio: fixes Jul 27 12:31:38 * update PV to 3.0.4 Jul 27 12:31:38 * patch out doc generation for gr-trellis subdir Jul 27 12:31:38 * packages all libs seperately Jul 27 12:31:39 * package python files as well Jul 27 12:32:42 when I see gnuradio, I always think RATM Guerilla Radio Jul 27 12:33:06 koen, looks sane to me now (the script in bug) Jul 27 12:34:37 now someone needs to test it :) Jul 27 12:35:03 and wait for RP to come up with a generic solution for running such scripts Jul 27 12:37:56 koen: could you check if webkit still compiles or if you get an issue with moc? Jul 27 12:38:17 it failed to compile yesterday, didn't look into the error Jul 27 12:39:21 i can set a enviroment variable in .bb file ? Jul 27 12:39:29 hi Jul 27 12:39:44 where do you need it? Jul 27 12:40:42 i need set a variable and configure script will get it Jul 27 12:41:05 hm is there a way that the compiler for qt apps take -DQWS if qte is selected Jul 27 12:44:04 bb.inherits(qte) ? Jul 27 12:44:16 koen let me see Jul 27 12:44:36 hm Jul 27 12:44:44 no .bb in classes Jul 27 12:46:02 palmtop.bbclass:EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST += "DEFINES+=QWS CONFIG+=qt ${CPP_SUPPORT_LIB}" Jul 27 12:46:06 hm Jul 27 12:46:29 thats not really a solution for me Jul 27 12:48:03 yay, my tuner is working again with 0.22 Jul 27 12:48:14 * koen hugs ivtv for being merged upstream Jul 27 12:48:56 psycoman which package and why needs configure a ENV-variable? Jul 27 12:54:37 woglinde: no im just try a workaround to fix the ./configure script without a patch Jul 27 12:55:11 do the patch and send it upstream Jul 27 12:57:01 if i make a path in bb file, is better put the diff in oebug ou send mtn diff ? Jul 27 13:17:13 * koen reassembles the multimeter Jul 27 13:37:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r32135d74... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-apps/omext_0.2.bb): omext: add proof of concept extension handler for openmoko Jul 27 13:51:22 lrg: any cool new stuff on asoc v2? Jul 27 13:51:38 (apart from multiple substreams and >1 codec support) Jul 27 13:52:16 koen: dapm policy, support for PPC "device tree" atm Jul 27 13:52:46 koen: better suspend and resume plus structure cleanup & refactoring Jul 27 14:04:10 hi Jul 27 14:04:34 morning CoreDump|home Jul 27 14:10:41 Crofton: It would make sense to build the stuff in http://gnuradio.org/trac/browser/gnuradio/trunk/gnuradio-examples/c%2B%2B Jul 27 14:12:40 Crofton: and http://rafb.net/p/gnvwH223.html Jul 27 14:20:39 koen: should we add a iphone toolchain to oe? Jul 27 14:21:11 hmm Jul 27 14:21:28 you are trying to run gnuradi oon a mobile phone? Jul 27 14:21:43 zecke: we could do that out of fun Jul 27 14:21:48 does the kernel have sysv shared mem built in? Jul 27 14:21:57 Crofton|laptop: yes, on a phone :) Jul 27 14:22:19 * CoreDump|home just upgraded his internet connection to a smooth 18Mbit downlink and grins evilly Jul 27 14:22:56 I wonder why the shmat call fails? Jul 27 14:23:11 do you mind if I send the pastebin to th bnu radio list? Jul 27 14:23:20 no, please do Jul 27 14:23:29 Someone noticed the neo a few weeks ago Jul 27 14:23:42 of course, they were confused by it :) Jul 27 14:25:29 Crofton: let me get alsa and sdl working first :) Jul 27 14:25:46 ok Jul 27 14:36:53 steliosk: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002635.html Jul 27 14:42:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2b681d4d... 10/ (1 packages/gnuradio/gnuradio_svn.bb): gnuradio: add enough python stuff to silence dial_tone.py Jul 27 14:45:06 morning Jul 27 14:45:20 hi chouimat Jul 27 14:47:49 another OE vs scratchbox discussion at maemo-dev Jul 27 14:53:10 koen: which thread? Jul 27 14:58:59 hrw: "public maemo repository" and "sbox2 & maemo" Jul 27 15:04:36 anyway it is maemo Jul 27 15:05:24 something what I do not mostly care Jul 27 15:37:00 * koen joins Crofton with cursing at libtool relink problems Jul 27 15:38:19 bye Jul 27 15:38:35 * hrw goes to own stag party (which will start tomorrow) Jul 27 15:38:41 hrw have fun Jul 27 15:38:49 don't do anything I wouldn't do Jul 27 15:39:13 one friend had us all go to the gun range and shoot guns for his :) Jul 27 15:39:23 he doesn't drink and like strippers Jul 27 15:39:41 but, he's somewhat obsessed with guns Jul 27 15:39:45 we go to campsite and will drink/grill etc Jul 27 15:39:58 sounds like fun Jul 27 15:48:02 Crofton|laptop: I'll activate the usrp modules in gnuradio as well Jul 27 15:48:25 yeah, I can test those on the Efika Jul 27 15:52:32 guile makes me think of jean claude van damme Jul 27 15:52:46 what is giving you trouble with libtool? Jul 27 15:53:23 guile-native Jul 27 15:53:31 compile works, install doesn't Jul 27 16:38:49 anyone ever have problems with gstreamer not finding plugins -- even if they are in the /usr/lib/gstreamer... dir? Used to work fine. Jul 27 16:46:28 cbrake: uh-oh, that's not good to hear, we plan on using gstreamer :( Jul 27 16:48:44 jsheldon: I'm getting some help on #gstreamer, seems like I'm missing some key libs on my system. Jul 27 16:48:52 jsheldon: hopefully just missing a package ... Jul 27 16:48:57 cbrake: try adding OE_LT_RPATH_ALLOW = "any" into the gstreamer plugin recipes Jul 27 16:49:03 (and rebuild) Jul 27 16:49:12 koen: will do, thanks Jul 27 16:49:15 cbrake: ok good luck Jul 27 16:49:38 koen: this is what I'm getting: http://pastebin.ca/636098 Jul 27 16:49:56 ok, lunch. be back in a 30 minutes ... Jul 27 16:53:07 ~lart svn fetcher Jul 27 16:53:08 * ibot_ duct-tapes svn fetcher to the floor and drools on him Jul 27 16:54:00 Hi, does someone read my concerns about the update-alternatives and have any idea how to fix it? Jul 27 16:54:16 (posted in OE list) Jul 27 16:54:19 I have read it Jul 27 16:54:21 read it, but no idea Jul 27 16:54:22 but dont know Jul 27 16:57:05 :( I'm not sure if change our update-alternatives-dpkg with an OE exclusive patch is a good idea.... But the other option is to change all OE to call using full path that would spend too time.... Jul 27 16:58:27 vivijim: iirc RP did the u-a stuff in OE for debs Jul 27 16:59:00 Crofton: I can't get guile(-native) to compile, so no USRP in gnuradio for the time being Jul 27 16:59:27 koen hm take patches from debian? Jul 27 16:59:47 woglinde: I somehow doubt debian patches its own software Jul 27 17:00:41 hm this one? -> guile-1.8 - The GNU extension language and Scheme interpreter Jul 27 17:00:41 RP: don't you have that problem that I write in OS list with update-alternatives-dpkg? Jul 27 17:03:10 woglinde: both 1.6.4 and 1.8.2 Jul 27 17:03:32 koen I believe that u-a of ipkg supports that both way (with or without full path) but dpkg doen't. I believe that if we want to have the full deb support a good idea would be to limit the OE to support just the full path. what do you think? Jul 27 17:04:44 you mean teaching u-a.bbclass the difference between them> Jul 27 17:04:45 ? Jul 27 17:10:52 koen: no... I mean to change every statement in functions that is like u-a --install ${base_sbindir}/link name bin.${PN} to be like that u-a --install ${base_sbindir}/link name ${base_sbindir}/bin.${PN} Jul 27 17:12:17 sounds like an idea Jul 27 17:15:24 I know that isn't easy to implement this idea, but I believe that this idea is the most coherent one... Jul 27 17:17:30 vivijim: you are attending OEDEM, right? Jul 27 17:18:14 vivijim: out of curiosity, do you need a visa for germany, is that easy to get? Jul 27 17:19:50 koen I believe so. I need the approve of my boss that is under vacation... Jul 27 17:20:03 zecke I believe that this visa to stay few days is not necessary to europe community... Jul 27 17:53:00 hi Jul 27 17:53:12 koen, any updates on Gnu Radio on Neo? Jul 27 17:54:52 Crofton|laptop: nope, but I did make the usrp module build :) Jul 27 17:55:42 koen: the gst-plugins-base does not include any libs -- that must be what your fix does ... Jul 27 17:56:12 cbrake: I suspect it needs an rpath on modules like pidgin does Jul 27 17:56:22 just a suspicion, no proof yet Jul 27 17:56:24 koen: trying now Jul 27 18:01:25 cbrake: messages like 'OE: Not hardcoding '/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib' into rpath' during compiling should appear Jul 27 18:01:40 normally you don't need rpath, but sporadically an apps does Jul 27 18:01:47 koen: OK Jul 27 18:02:39 Crofton|laptop: I don't think gnuradio needs swig at runtime Jul 27 18:03:12 I wasn't sure if there was some kind of swig runtime part Jul 27 18:03:23 or it just does code generation Jul 27 18:03:29 if there is, you'd need g++ as well :) Jul 27 18:03:38 heh Jul 27 18:04:41 visitors have arrived Jul 27 18:04:45 later all Jul 27 18:05:23 koen|away: that worked -- thanks! Jul 27 18:49:27 polyonymous, any idERROR: No providers of runtime build target opie-taskbar-images-320x320 (for ['/home/slapin/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tasks/task-opie.bb'])eas on fixing Jul 27 18:49:46 polyonymous, sorry, touchpad paste :( Jul 27 18:49:58 slapin, then it's missing, I'd say Jul 27 18:50:24 polyonymous, I can't understand that reciepe :( Jul 27 18:50:37 slapin, that's because I wrote it :)) Jul 27 18:50:54 anyway, there's no 320x320 target indeed. Jul 27 18:51:17 polyonymous, could you please do something about it? :) Jul 27 18:52:08 slapin, well, first, I haven't built opie since psokolovsky bumped stuff for 1.2.3 release, so I won't touch it now. I think I'll look into it later today. After I start building again :) Jul 27 18:53:38 polyonymous, please let me know, since I'd like to build image too. Jul 27 18:54:07 slapin, for which quadratisch praktisch gut device ?:) Jul 27 18:54:41 polyonymous, zire72 Jul 27 18:54:52 polyonymous, palmz72, actually Jul 27 18:55:23 aha. Just curious. Jul 27 18:55:34 polyonymous, it has 320x320 LCD and 320x480 touchscreen... Jul 27 18:56:21 aha, with that whachyomacallsit... Jul 27 18:56:26 graffiti area! Jul 27 19:00:30 polyonymous, yes, damnit... Jul 27 19:01:14 I have tungsten T, but I haven't yet tried it with oe... Jul 27 19:04:22 polyonymous, geez,,,, won't you volunteer to prepare some rotten old patch to be submitted to linux-omap? Jul 27 19:04:44 I'd think not :) Jul 27 19:04:52 polyonymous, it is on hnd d/l area. Jul 27 19:05:01 polyonymous, thanks Jul 27 19:05:03 patch for what? Jul 27 19:05:26 polyonymous, palmtt Jul 27 19:05:54 ah, no, I'm not going to play with palmtt anytime soon - my wife uses it for ebook reading. Jul 27 19:07:47 polyonymous, that's great, let it rot then. Jul 27 19:08:16 I think that's what it will do. How does it crawl on palm, anyway? Jul 27 19:08:45 polyonymous, opie works well, as I was told. Jul 27 19:09:17 hmm... Maybe I should get my desktop pilot-link together and try backing it up... Jul 27 19:09:34 polyonymous, on Zire72 it works really well (opie) and sluggish (GPE). Jul 27 19:09:52 if it properly runs opie-reader my wife will be happy :) Jul 27 19:10:10 but not now, not now (and no, I'm not lazy either) Jul 27 19:11:24 polyonymous, I'm not really care for them until psokolovsky is not here yelling and pushing about these :) Jul 27 19:11:46 ;-) Jul 27 19:11:59 slapin, where do you live? Jul 27 19:12:27 polyonymous, SPb Jul 27 19:12:41 Ah.. why is your russian worsening? Jul 27 19:13:16 polyonymous, because I talk russian less than 5% of time :) Jul 27 19:13:34 slapin, why?! Jul 27 19:13:38 polyonymous, not saying write Jul 27 19:14:08 I first thought you've moved to US or something, but then I figured you didn't... What language do you speak in spb?! Jul 27 19:14:15 polyonymous, because I worked in outsourcing company too much... Jul 27 19:14:22 Or... is it that you just don't speak? :) Jul 27 19:14:25 ah, I see. Jul 27 19:15:29 polyonymous, I used to be writing in russian quite well, but now I barely can think of complex enough text... Jul 27 19:15:51 What about reading? :) Jul 27 19:16:05 Thanks to opie-reader I've just finished rereading "War and Peace" :) Jul 27 19:16:10 polyonymous, no problems yet. Jul 27 19:16:29 but the more you read, the better you write, no? Jul 27 19:16:46 polyonymous, I read it using fbreader long ago. Jul 27 19:17:04 polyonymous, depends on what you read and what you need to write. Jul 27 19:17:09 When I've read it long ago there was no fbreader... :) Jul 27 19:18:06 you got the point here. But in my opinion tech writings should be no worse than Gogol or Dickens :) Jul 27 19:18:33 polyonymous, well, speaking of that time, I read it from paper, then using palmficion, then using less, and afterwards fbreader. Noc counting various occasions with text files and printouts... Jul 27 19:18:58 :))) Never tried reading that much in less :)) Jul 27 19:19:03 polyonymous, have you read medical texts? Jul 27 19:19:54 Not much, although my dad was a surgeon and writer. So I've read some crap and also his books. Jul 27 19:20:30 polyonymous, any words to remember? :) Jul 27 19:21:11 medical words? lots, but why? Jul 27 19:53:58 hi guys Jul 27 20:04:45 re Jul 27 20:10:23 is ltg alive? Jul 27 20:13:05 slapin: yes, but under high load... mtn is running on it again Jul 27 20:20:49 When will openembedded.org be back up? Jul 27 20:21:48 Who started the monotone server again? Jul 27 20:25:37 polyonymous: online? Jul 27 20:26:25 psokolovsky, yu Jul 27 20:26:27 p Jul 27 20:26:48 polyonymous: hope you saw opie 1.2.3 having been added Jul 27 20:26:59 psokolovsky, yup, have even pulled, but haven't built yet. Jul 27 20:27:09 I have a few questions. Jul 27 20:27:34 polyonymous: hope you could do that, and test. it builds for me of course, but I likely won't have chance to test it before vacation. Jul 27 20:27:45 polyonymous: so, I leave all that stuff on you ;-) Jul 27 20:27:47 1. trivial, which I can figure out yourself, but you know out of your head - what do I do with local.conf now? Just remove the require? Jul 27 20:27:58 polyonymous: yes, let's go over them before I'm gone ;-) Jul 27 20:28:08 Yeah, I'm going to build it asap Jul 27 20:28:25 when are you gone? Like immediately? :) Jul 27 20:28:43 polyonymous: no, I yet going to respond to koen's mail, but IMHO, we should stay with right that way of selecting opie build - using require Jul 27 20:29:04 polyonymous: like I don't know, shopping for hot tour, so can be any time ;-) Jul 27 20:29:11 psokolovsky, ok. the same require or 1.2.3 (without -pre) ? Jul 27 20:29:20 aha, I see :) Jul 27 20:29:37 polyonymous: I updated OpieWithAngstrom wiki, it has actual info now. yes, w/o -pre Jul 27 20:29:41 ah ok Jul 27 20:29:51 another question, what do we do with fixes now? Jul 27 20:30:12 Like slapin wants to add 320x320, suppose it gets upstream, do we update 1.2.3 oe? Jul 27 20:30:20 polyonymous: I also renamed old 1.2.3-pre to 1.2.4-pre, but it would need more fixes to build proper stuff, hope you might look at that too Jul 27 20:30:42 psokolovsky, yeah, once I get to building 1.2.4-pre :) Jul 27 20:30:52 which depends on the policy question I've just asked. Jul 27 20:31:04 we don't pull any fixes for 1.2.3 do we? Jul 27 20:31:19 polyonymous: his fixes for should should go to OE, and to 1.2.3, right. I'd consider that "packaging fix", so that would rather go into 1.2.3. "functionality fixes" should go into 1.2.40pre imho Jul 27 20:31:36 Make sense. Jul 27 20:31:40 makes Jul 27 20:32:13 are we going to add angstrom-opie-image or something? Jul 27 20:33:07 polyonymous: dunno, if you have ideas why it should differ fro just opie-image, can add for sure. otherwise, worth asking other people on ML ;-) Jul 27 20:33:08 * polyonymous bakes image with 1.2.3 Jul 27 20:33:38 psokolovsky, no faintest clue but for convenience of those used to angstrom-x11-image :) Jul 27 20:33:56 polyonymous: ask koen then ;-) Jul 27 20:34:32 psokolovsky, I'd also think that having to require stuff for building opie is obnoxious. Personally I have no problem with that, but generally it's wrong. Jul 27 20:36:27 and I can't open opiewithangstrom ;-) Jul 27 20:36:31 polyonymous: yeah, it's wrong. it's wrong that we have libsdl and xine which builds the same-named package but with different contents depending on opie vs gpe, but it's sad fact. Jul 27 20:37:02 hmm.. can't it be automated in image? Jul 27 20:37:03 polyonymous: so, we'd need selection method anyway. and 1 require seems to me more clean than bunch of PREFERRED_PROVIDERs after all ;-I Jul 27 20:37:14 polyonymous: nope Jul 27 20:37:14 very much so :)) Jul 27 20:37:20 ok. Jul 27 20:37:40 Do you imply that I can't build opie and x11 in the same workdir? (because I've been doing that all the time:)) Jul 27 20:37:48 I never cared about sdl and xine, though. Jul 27 20:39:43 polyonymous: yep, you can't cleanly. it worked only because opie-image doesn't include those "questionable" packages Jul 27 20:39:58 ok, got it. Jul 27 20:40:28 psokolovsky, push opie bug 1881 Jul 27 20:41:05 slapin: I'm out on vacation Jul 27 20:41:54 psokolovsky, I'm too, but I do something useful anyway Jul 27 20:42:14 slapin, is it the bug about backgrounds? Jul 27 20:42:45 polyonymous, yes Jul 27 20:43:30 We've just discussed our policy regarding these fixes, I think I'll push it in oe soon. Jul 27 20:46:47 polyonymous, ok, when are you going to look into this? Jul 27 20:46:49 psokolovsky, just loaded wiki page, finally. Why would 1.2.4-pre build packages with 1.2.3+cvs* ? Is it intended? Jul 27 20:47:13 slapin, no sooner than I build "production" opie for myself :) Jul 27 20:47:28 polyonymous: sure. what it can be otherwise? didn't you know debian/oe versioning policy? Jul 27 20:48:00 psokolovsky, no, I didn't :) So, it was 1.2.2+cvs before? Jul 27 20:48:07 (I didn't pay attention to versions Jul 27 20:48:08 ) Jul 27 20:48:35 if yes, then I'm perfectly satisfied :) Jul 27 20:48:42 sure. how otherwise upgrades would work? Jul 27 20:48:51 indeed, makes sense. Jul 27 20:49:27 it's "1.2.4-pre" what's confusing per packaging logic, but just ok per humans' ;-) Jul 27 20:49:33 polyonymous, is it will be today or not? if not could you please propose a workaround for me now? Jul 27 20:49:51 slapin, workaround? Install files manually? :) Jul 27 20:50:46 slapin: only a proper solution, sorry: make proper patches to need OE recipes, submit them, and use yourself. Jul 27 20:51:35 I think he has tree access :) Jul 27 20:52:00 but he said he's unable to cope with my hacks in opie-taskbar-images.bb :) Jul 27 20:52:37 he really should haste with committing his patches yet ;-) Jul 27 20:52:57 psokolovsky, I don't care I just need image to test various things not related Jul 27 20:53:29 do proper things, and you'll have image not "just, but "at all" ;-) Jul 27 20:53:31 psokolovsky, I just plainly can't understand that reciepe's python code Jul 27 20:54:03 psokolovsky, It is just not clean for me how, so I ask. Jul 27 20:54:07 slapin, it was my almost first every python code, I'm no python guru at all, so that should be pretty trivial... Jul 27 20:54:53 anyway, slapin, Jul 27 20:55:03 the do_install part is clear, is it? Jul 27 20:55:14 psokolovsky, polyonymous: anyway, I'm out of context here, so please do proper patch. I just can't touch what I can't understand. Jul 27 20:55:17 polyonymous: don't pay attention, guy's got scope problems ;-) Jul 27 20:55:35 psokolovsky, ??!! what? Jul 27 20:55:53 slapin: no, you can. or rather, right, everyone could, but you can't ;-\ Jul 27 20:56:33 psokolovsky, I barely see your sarcasm here, and I don't like it. Jul 27 20:56:38 well, slapin, thank you for submitting bug to opie, I will take care of it, but please, be nice(1), don't try to raise priority. Jul 27 20:57:05 polyonymous, I don't, I just ask for information. Jul 27 20:58:15 slapin, (1) I can give you all the explanation regarding .bb. (2) I can do it whenever I get to it. Jul 27 21:02:50 polyonymous, I mostly got idea about stuff - what would you prefer - me to commit this, rfc it on list or add oebug? Jul 27 21:04:22 if you can produce patch against mtn tree, but you're not sure how good it is, I think you can file a bug to oe bugzilla with a patch and I will audit and commit it. Jul 27 21:04:45 oops Jul 27 21:04:59 psokolovsky, my bake failed on opie-taskbar-images :) Jul 27 21:05:14 ;-) Jul 27 21:05:39 yep, committing missed file Jul 27 21:05:49 yup, see it now :)) Jul 27 21:06:14 or should I say "don't see it" :) Jul 27 21:07:15 pushed Jul 27 21:07:31 * polyonymous pulls Jul 27 21:08:51 * polyonymous bakes further Jul 27 21:15:27 any idea how to adjust the brightness from the command line (c7x0)? Jul 27 21:15:33 bl Jul 27 21:15:39 bl Jul 27 21:29:23 polyonymous, sorry, I made this http://ossfans.org/paste?id=17adb0, if you insist on bug, I'll file it. Jul 27 21:29:56 polyonymous, I can push it if you are not against. Jul 27 21:30:28 slapin, hang on Jul 27 21:31:01 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r96a6f6c2... 10/ (1 packages/opie-taskbar/opie-taskbar-images_1.2.3.bb): opie-taskbar-images 1.2.3: Add missing recipe. Jul 27 21:31:06 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2cca32d3... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.20-hh10.bb): Jul 27 21:31:06 linux-handhelds-2.6: Add 2.6.20-hh10, latest tag of 2.6.20 branch (historical). Jul 27 21:31:06 * For completeness. Jul 27 21:31:12 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r93c9dfbf... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.20-hh6.bb): linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.20-hh6: Drop old version. Jul 27 21:31:20 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r65fcc53b... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_cvs.bb): linux-handhelds-2.6 cvs: CVS HEAD is 2.6.21-hh14. Jul 27 21:32:32 slapin, looks fine, especially if you have tested it. One thing though: why not just install from ${FILESDIR}, skipping SRC_URI? And don't forget to mtn add images :) Jul 27 21:35:25 hmm... slapin I'd guess you haven't tested it :) Jul 27 21:35:47 you have background-*.jpg in SRC_URI and opie-background-*.jpg ininstall :) Jul 27 21:35:53 polyonymous, I won't push w/o testing, don't worry Jul 27 21:35:55 OE is frikken awesome :D... sure beats Scratchbox. Are there any Compulab Cm-x270 users in here right now? Jul 27 21:36:23 justindnb, flattery will get you everywhere! :) Jul 27 21:38:04 I honestly do love it! used it last year with my hx4700 but my host machine was a pentium II.. now I have a dual core and its just ripping Jul 27 21:38:46 heh Jul 27 21:40:19 justindnb, scratchbox is just != OE. they are different in both goals and purposes. Jul 27 21:50:33 any chance someone could redo the bb for lighttpd to include pcre support during compile so it can launch? Jul 27 21:51:56 Paladine: i will try make a lighttpd .bb file Jul 27 21:52:03 maybe tomorrow Jul 27 21:54:44 thanks psycoman Jul 27 21:55:00 what modules you need ? Jul 27 21:55:34 well I need it compiled with pcre support so it will launch, other than that the existing modules in the OE packages are fine Jul 27 21:55:42 oka Jul 27 21:55:52 at the moment the OE version refuses to launch because it can't parse the regex in the config file Jul 27 21:56:40 I have installed pcre on the system but it still gives the same error stating it needs to be built with the pcre option enabled Jul 27 21:57:31 Starting Lighttpd Web Server: can't handle '$HTTP[url] =~ ...' as you compiled without pcre support. Jul 27 21:57:31 (perhaps just a missing pcre-devel package ?) Jul 27 21:57:44 yeap Jul 27 21:58:02 its line 131 in the conf file causing the error Jul 27 21:58:22 polyonymous, pushed, I think you might want to look. Jul 27 21:58:40 I might Jul 27 21:59:31 hang on let me see if I can find the devel package Jul 27 21:59:41 I only have thisinstalled so far libpcre0_4.4-r8_armv4t.ipk Jul 27 21:59:55 you need -dev Jul 27 22:01:39 hang on just found the dev package that might fix the problem, I never saw it in the deploy directory last night Jul 27 22:02:56 install libprce-dev can fix the problem Jul 27 22:03:02 naah it still gives the same error even with the dev package installed Jul 27 22:03:12 but you need recompile lighttp Jul 27 22:03:24 maybe I have to rebuild lighttpd Jul 27 22:03:25 aye Jul 27 22:03:31 you have Jul 27 22:04:14 nope even reinstalling it gives the same error Jul 27 22:04:38 the pcre packages were build when I built lighttpd in OE Jul 27 22:04:42 built Jul 27 22:04:59 so it seems it builds the packages but doesn't compile lighttpd with pcre support Jul 27 22:05:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r06401097... 10/ (1 packages/guile/guile-native_1.8.2.bb): guile-native: update to 1.8.2 Jul 27 22:05:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r96140c2b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gnuradio: enable usrp and package its lib seperately Jul 27 22:05:14 --without-pcre cvhange that to --with-pcre Jul 27 22:05:16 03slapin 07org.oe.dev * r80e11d2d... 10/ (9 files in 3 dirs): opie-taskbar-images: Added Opie backgrounds for devices with 320x320 screen. Jul 27 22:05:38 slapin, looks good, but why did you introduce extra whitespace on the empty line and why did you remove whitespace before ';' in for? :) No need to fix either, though :) Jul 27 22:05:47 lighttp atomaticly uses prce with it in the system not needed --with-prce Jul 27 22:06:31 psycoman: but we explicitly turn it off by doing --witout-pcre, so change that to --with-pcre Jul 27 22:06:53 polyonymous, 1) braindamage of editor, 2) looks nicer, did out of uncociousness? Jul 27 22:07:07 XorA: right Jul 27 22:07:09 psycoman, but that goes against what my error is telling me Jul 27 22:07:10 *unconciousness Jul 27 22:07:28 I have pcre and pcre -dev installed but lighttpd is not able to parse the config Jul 27 22:07:48 Paladine: that because your libghttp isnt linked with libpcre Jul 27 22:07:57 slapin, (1) ;-) (2) it doesn't look nicer - all resolutions are surrounded by space, but the last one has ';' "glued" to it. But nevermind, of course. Just get a better editor :) Jul 27 22:07:58 ahh thanks XorA I never noticed your responce Jul 27 22:07:58 maybe you need put depndes libpcre too Jul 27 22:08:19 yeah that too, then submit the new .bb as a bug when you get it all working Jul 27 22:08:26 Paladine: you need recompile it Jul 27 22:08:45 Paladine: change the bb file like XorA told Jul 27 22:09:05 psycoman, I don't know how to compile it, I have only used the OE package system so far, I don't know how to pass options to it during the build Jul 27 22:09:18 I haven't even looked at a bb file before Jul 27 22:09:26 Paladine: you have a oe builder configure Jul 27 22:09:28 Paladine: what machine are you using? Jul 27 22:09:48 XorA, the host or the handheld? Jul 27 22:09:54 Paladine: handheld Jul 27 22:09:59 the handheld is an ipaq rx3115 Jul 27 22:10:07 Paladine: armv5? Jul 27 22:10:16 armv4 I think Jul 27 22:10:20 arm920T Jul 27 22:10:33 ah, I cant help dont have an armv4 build handy Jul 27 22:10:55 my machine is armv5te Jul 27 22:11:00 i cant help too Jul 27 22:11:39 so I just need to search the bb for the ./configure command and add --with-pcre ? Jul 27 22:11:55 you have a OE builder ? Jul 27 22:12:02 in your desktop Jul 27 22:12:03 Paladine: not much searching, its quite obvious :-) Jul 27 22:12:16 I am new to this, so I am not sure what you mean, I have OE installed with bitbake Jul 27 22:12:25 yeap Jul 27 22:12:32 go to Jul 27 22:12:37 and I build packages with bitbake Jul 27 22:13:00 oebuilder-dir/org.opemembedded.dev/packages/lighttpd Jul 27 22:13:11 and edit the last bb file version Jul 27 22:13:23 after this bitbake lighttpd Jul 27 22:13:33 k Jul 27 22:14:17 k found it Jul 27 22:14:32 changed --without-pcre to --with-pcre Jul 27 22:14:51 y Jul 27 22:14:54 doh Jul 27 22:14:56 yeap Jul 27 22:15:14 ^x Y doesn't work in xchat ;) Jul 27 22:17:08 how do I remove the previously build package from the build environment? Jul 27 22:17:19 NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 304 tasks of which 304 didn't need to be rerun and 0 failed. Jul 27 22:17:28 it didn't actually do anything I don't think Jul 27 22:17:59 bitbake lighttpd -c clean Jul 27 22:18:03 thanks Jul 27 22:18:51 k its building now I will let you know how it goes Jul 27 22:19:26 k Jul 27 22:20:37 psycoman: there is a -c rebuild Jul 27 22:21:11 XorA: thnkx im new in builder too Jul 27 22:22:12 k that fixed it :) Jul 27 22:22:33 http://87.127.87.187/ :) Jul 27 22:22:39 httpd on my ipaq :) Jul 27 22:22:44 it is in inet ? Jul 27 22:22:54 ? Jul 27 22:23:03 Paladine: sorry. Jul 27 22:23:09 i can acess too with this ip Jul 27 22:23:09 Jul 27 22:23:10 ? Jul 27 22:23:22 yeah you shoudl be able to it is a public IP Jul 27 22:23:34 no access Jul 27 22:23:36 at all Jul 27 22:23:52 weird, how comes I can access it from the LAN using the public IP? Jul 27 22:24:45 my network is a no-nat setup Jul 27 22:24:48 everything is public Jul 27 22:25:11 i cant acess =[ Jul 27 22:25:22 maybe avahi is doing something weird? Jul 27 22:25:29 btw lighttpd is working ^^ Jul 27 22:25:36 Paladine: congrats Jul 27 22:25:44 psycoman, you can access it now? Jul 27 22:25:51 wwait Jul 27 22:26:00 thanks XorA Jul 27 22:26:08 It works! Jul 27 22:26:11 It works! heh heh Jul 27 22:26:16 hehe Jul 27 22:26:19 Paladine: congrats Jul 27 22:26:37 weird, wonder why you couldn't connect before, I never made any changes Jul 27 22:26:38 Paladine: please file you new .bb as a bug Jul 27 22:26:49 XorA will do it now Jul 27 22:27:04 XorA: buit need chage the depends too Jul 27 22:27:12 Paladine: thanks, I would check it in immediately, but Im not sure why pcre was turned off to start with Jul 27 22:27:14 s/buit/but Jul 27 22:28:22 build will not fail with prce, but is better add depends i think Jul 27 22:28:41 s/with/without Jul 27 22:28:43 yeah, please add DEPENDS = "pcre" Jul 27 22:29:19 where do I add that? Jul 27 22:29:51 Palain .bb file Jul 27 22:30:12 betwenn PR = and SRC_URI = Jul 27 22:30:22 k sec Jul 27 22:30:29 my keyboard is suchx Jul 27 22:30:33 Paladine: thanks Jul 27 22:30:58 PR = "r1" Jul 27 22:30:59 DEPENDS = "pcre" Jul 27 22:30:59 SRC_URI = "http://www.lighttpd.net/download/lighttpd-1.4.15.tar.gz \ Jul 27 22:31:01 that right? Jul 27 22:31:15 it is fine for me Jul 27 22:33:30 k I added it, hope I did it right Jul 27 22:33:50 bug 2692 Jul 27 22:33:59 * * OE Bug 2692 has been created by core.ldf(AT)gmail.com Jul 27 22:34:01 * * lighttpd bb file is configured --without-pcre but pcre is required to read the conf Jul 27 22:34:03 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2692 Jul 27 22:34:14 nice :) Jul 27 22:35:29 looks like it didn't attach the file Jul 27 22:35:45 atach now Jul 27 22:36:42 k I forgot to add a description for the attachment it worked this time :) Jul 27 22:49:41 php working with lighttpd now too :) http://87.127.87.187/ Jul 27 22:51:38 ^^ Jul 27 22:51:50 nice Jul 27 22:52:00 5.1.4 Jul 27 22:52:05 nice performance Jul 27 22:52:23 hehe Jul 27 22:52:40 what you whant to do with it ? Jul 27 22:52:57 am gonna put http://blog.paladine.org.uk on it :) Jul 27 22:53:12 Paladine: you pda is always connected ? @@ Jul 27 22:53:17 yeah Jul 27 22:53:32 nice Jul 27 22:53:33 lighttpd is using 93% CPU though lol Jul 27 22:53:39 @@ Jul 27 22:54:26 root@rx3000:/www/pages$ uptime Jul 27 22:54:26 17:26:17 up 20:49, 1 user, load average: 2.10, 2.00, 1.85 Jul 27 22:55:14 a bunch of people are hitting the webserver atm though Jul 27 22:55:38 popular Jul 27 22:55:42 blog Jul 27 22:56:03 yeah I get around a bit ;) Jul 27 22:57:25 just remember when I wanted to put webserver on zx spectrum ;-D Jul 27 22:58:02 well the arm920T is a pretty decent cpu from what I have read Jul 27 23:03:46 hehe I changed the webpage ;) http://87.127.87.187/ Jul 27 23:04:01 hehh Jul 27 23:13:18 seems to be holding up well :) Jul 27 23:25:10 psycoman, http://blog.paladine.org.uk/?p=26 <- special mention for this channel :) Jul 27 23:25:31 Paladine: im read it right now Jul 28 02:54:20 Anybody here compiled python with ssl support Jul 28 02:54:23 ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 28 02:59:56 2007