**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 22 02:59:56 2007 Aug 22 03:28:33 how to make a fetch a certain rev from svn? Aug 22 03:28:49 my reicpe fetches current from svn now, but I need a certain rev (one that works) Aug 22 03:34:55 search for tag= in current .bb's and you should find an example Aug 22 03:44:33 thanks, it was rev= Aug 22 03:44:51 I kinda figured but... well we are all good now Aug 22 03:57:04 has anybody seen anything like this? makedevs: /home/henry/oe/dev/tmp/rootfs/bin/tinylogin: file can not be created! Aug 22 03:58:42 hvontres|home: lots of openmokians are reporting it with oe.dev head Aug 22 03:59:00 seems that makedevs has stopped doing mkdir -p like things. Aug 22 03:59:02 rwhitby: any ideas? Aug 22 03:59:27 or the device table has suddenly got subdirs where it didn't before. Aug 22 03:59:33 I haven't looked into the real cause yet. Aug 22 04:00:46 rwhitby: do you know if this could be related to the host os? I just switched from fedora to kubunu Aug 22 04:02:00 it works for me in Debian Etch Aug 22 04:02:36 and device_table-minimal.txt hasn't changed recently as far as I know Aug 22 04:06:36 Sounds like it might be fakeroot acting up again? Aug 22 04:09:26 does anyone here know the bb name for the kernel image for spitz? Aug 22 04:09:44 mwester-road: hmmmm, did we ever figure out what was causing fakeroot to act up in the first place? Aug 22 04:10:14 mwester-road: btw, are you going to send your kexec patches to the mailing list soon? Aug 22 04:10:48 Not really. HopsNBarley determined that it was something to do with the inode caching in fakeroot, but never sorted it out. It had been observed elsewhere at the time. Aug 22 04:10:49 wirelessdreamer: spitz uses linux-rp_2.6.21 Aug 22 04:11:02 hvontres|home: thanks Aug 22 04:11:07 I ran into it when I upgraded to Fedora 7, and solved it by upgrading fakeroot to 1.7 Aug 22 04:12:03 Re: kexec changes -- I can send those out. Probably when I return later this week... Aug 22 04:12:30 mwester-road: cool. I told RP about them and he sounded really interested Aug 22 04:12:58 Well, the sysfs changes are really bad, but the rest is probably ok to use. Aug 22 04:14:10 hvontres|home: can you pastebin the log file from the rootfs creation problem? Aug 22 04:14:27 mwester-road: well, at least we can get the other guys thnking about how to solve this better Aug 22 04:14:35 ~pastebin Aug 22 04:14:36 hmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well Aug 22 04:18:07 mwester-road: http://pastebin.ca/666457 Aug 22 04:20:22 Well, not conclusive, but that's similar to the sort of thing one would see with the fakeroot problem. What version is fakeroot-native in your tmp tree? Aug 22 04:21:57 mwester-road: 1.7.1... but I just tried to rebuild it and this is what I got: http://pastebin.ca/666460 Aug 22 04:22:13 mwester-road: it looks like fakeroot is failing on configure.... Aug 22 04:23:09 There's a patch for that... Aug 22 04:24:08 mwester-road: ooops.. tried to rebuild fakeroot instead of fakeroot-native... one moment.... Aug 22 04:25:55 mwester-road: hmmm....fakeroot-native builds ok.... Aug 22 04:26:58 * * OE Bug 2304 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com Aug 22 04:27:00 * *  texinfo fails to build Aug 22 04:27:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2304 Aug 22 04:27:42 1.7.1 has many fixes, especially for 64 bit filesystem calls... perhaps something isn't quite sorted out for 64-bit systems? (I only run 32-bit at the moment). Aug 22 04:28:43 mwester-road: hmmmm...that could be it... I just got a nice new dual-core turion laptop.... and this is my first attempt at building on it :) Aug 22 04:31:01 I also run only 32 bit and everything works. Aug 22 04:35:43 I wonder if this bug might be relevant? http://bugs.uclibc.org/view.php?id=371 Aug 22 04:41:24 mwester-road: hmmm,could be interesting Aug 22 05:10:58 * * OE Bug 2820 has been created by hvontres(AT)gmail.com Aug 22 05:11:00 * * do_make_rootfs fails on makedevs Aug 22 05:11:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2820 Aug 22 05:54:23 koen: ping Aug 22 07:22:02 was there a fix for the tinylogin do_rootfs issue Crofton ? Aug 22 07:34:30 micropal : I stumbled into that myself Aug 22 07:35:10 not sure whats causing it though Aug 22 07:38:34 only the dev directory is created. I think it tries to copy tinylogin into bin which doesn't exists. But I'm still a newbie in OE, so I might be wrong Aug 22 07:39:31 micropal : yep, thats the problem Aug 22 07:39:50 micropal : what i can't figure out yet is why bin is not created Aug 22 07:48:48 It's makedevs that tries to create /bin/tinylogin. It's not that it tries to copy tinylogin into /bin Aug 22 07:49:43 why is /bin/tinylogin, /bin/mount and /bin/umount in files/device_table-minimal.txt? Aug 22 07:50:45 Is it just to get the permissions right or something? Aug 22 08:04:44 morning Aug 22 08:08:37 good morning all Aug 22 08:08:56 I thought you all were americans ;) good morning Aug 22 08:10:59 ~ugt Aug 22 08:11:00 from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Aug 22 08:11:15 heh ;) Aug 22 08:12:14 anyways, steliosk if you comment out that /bin/tinylogin infiles/device_table-minimal.txt you can build your image. Aug 22 08:12:34 I'm going to try the efika image on the freescale m-itx board later this week. Aug 22 08:24:14 hi Aug 22 08:24:35 isn't there a package for bitbake for ubuntu feisty? Aug 22 08:31:59 Crofton: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/gumstix/20070821/ Aug 22 08:37:04 koen : hi ! Package will leave today Aug 22 08:37:07 micropal : well, it will work, but that's not the general idea when trying to find bugs Aug 22 08:37:23 steliosk: thanks! Aug 22 08:42:53 * XorA should update mtn more often Aug 22 08:43:59 XorA: I'm doing a final test on abiword*2.5.2 now Aug 22 08:44:49 koen: cool Aug 22 08:45:16 and the ezx dudes now have a working asoc driver and can make calls with it Aug 22 08:45:18 will a PREFFERRED_VERSION_glibc="2.3.6" take affect in my local.conf or will i need to place it somewhere else ? i just notice that it still builds glibc-intermediate-2.5 Aug 22 08:46:58 * * OE Bug 2821 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 08:47:00 * * wv-1.2.0-r0-do_configure Aug 22 08:47:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2821 Aug 22 08:49:57 * * OE Bug 2821 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 22 08:50:00 * *  wv-1.2.0-r0-do_configure Aug 22 08:50:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2821 Aug 22 08:50:22 seppuku.bbclass rocks Aug 22 08:52:58 rob_w|laptop : You have to override that also then, beacuse the distro you are using defines it Aug 22 08:54:13 steliosk, how do i ? Aug 22 08:57:14 DISTRO=angstrom-2008.1 :) Aug 22 08:58:05 koen: so those moto phones are finally useful? Aug 22 08:58:36 XorA: looks like it Aug 22 09:00:25 good morning Aug 22 09:04:07 steliosk: yeah, I know. It's a quick hack. Aug 22 09:04:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r18a264d6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux 2.6.21: remove localversion for gumstix to get module deps working properly Aug 22 09:04:40 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rad632a7e... 10/ (1 packages/wv/wv_1.2.0.bb): wv: add libgsf to depends Aug 22 09:04:46 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r366af8b1... 10/ (1 packages/kxml2/kxml2_2.3.0.bb): Aug 22 09:04:46 kxml2: more unification of recipe Aug 22 09:04:46 * change hardcoded download file to more general Aug 22 09:04:50 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rf145dcb7... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-ml403-mvista-2.6.x_git.bb): Aug 22 09:04:50 packages/linux/linux-ml403-mvista-2.6.x_git.bb : Add DEPENDS="git-native" to use native git Aug 22 09:04:50 when doing the pulls Aug 22 09:04:54 steliosk, you mean to overrwrite glibc-intermediate="2.3.6" Aug 22 09:04:55 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rba5f0bfd... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-ml403-slab-2.6.x_git.bb): Aug 22 09:04:55 packages/linux/linux-ml403-slab-2.6.x_git.bb :Add DEPENDS="git-native" to use native git Aug 22 09:04:56 when doing the pulls Aug 22 09:11:16 rob_w|laptop : yes Aug 22 09:13:03 ~fish lrg Aug 22 09:13:04 * ibot slaps lrg around with a large trout Aug 22 09:13:36 ~plague lrg Aug 22 09:14:09 * lrg can relax now as there is no ~plague Aug 22 09:14:31 hey lrg Aug 22 09:14:42 hey koen Aug 22 09:21:38 morning all Aug 22 09:23:47 hey RP Aug 22 09:24:01 hey RP Aug 22 09:24:12 good morning Aug 22 09:24:30 good morning, rp and florian Aug 22 09:31:47 morning Aug 22 09:32:00 morning mickey|taxes Aug 22 09:33:47 hey mickey|taxes & florian Aug 22 09:35:10 hi mickey|taxes Aug 22 09:35:27 mickey|taxes: uh, you spent the night working on taxes?! Aug 22 09:35:59 florian: it's much worse... i fell asleep over searching the necessary papers :/ Aug 22 09:36:23 the apartment move and the water incident didn't help my organization Aug 22 09:36:33 usually i have all papers in place Aug 22 09:36:36 not this time :/ Aug 22 09:37:14 mickey|taxes: What a well known situation... I have to search for papers all the time. But don't worry - taxes is harmless unless you have employees. Aug 22 09:37:35 mickey|taxes: Try to get a huge amount of money from the state - that's fun ;) Aug 22 09:38:31 RP: Hi ! I updated to bitbake 1.8.9 but if the build fails i still get *.lock files all over the place Aug 22 09:39:57 steliosk: They should only appear in DL_DIR Aug 22 09:40:34 steliosk: and they get left behind even when it succeeds intentionally to allow multiple bitbakes to use the same DL_DIR Aug 22 09:40:51 If it removed them, it has the potential for races :/ Aug 22 09:40:55 RP: its in the package dirs Aug 22 09:41:19 RP: but i'll try a clean build as these might be leftovers from earlier bitbake builds Aug 22 09:41:24 steliosk: Can you remove them and confirm that, it should have been fixed Aug 22 09:47:58 * * OE Bug 2822 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 09:48:00 * * abiword-embedded-2.5.2-r0-do_compile Aug 22 09:48:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2822 Aug 22 09:51:41 Can somebody remind me how a 64bit machine can be forced to do a 32bit build Aug 22 09:51:44 florian: hehe. well, EÜR and Vorsteuer are keeping me busy enough... i can imagine employees are a nightmare (taxes-wise) Aug 22 09:52:09 then again, I have the motivation to go though this at least once without a tax consultant Aug 22 09:52:17 because i actually want to understand what's going on Aug 22 09:54:07 steliosk: 'linux32 ' Aug 22 09:54:34 mickey|taxes: This works pretty good without, but I'm quite sure that you won't stay with EÜR for a long time... Aug 22 09:54:39 morning Aug 22 09:54:53 | checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found Aug 22 09:54:53 | configure: error: could not find Python headers Aug 22 09:56:15 mickey|taxes: python on x86-64 Aug 22 09:56:27 mickey|taxes: python-dbus to be exact but this can happen with any Aug 22 09:57:02 hmm Aug 22 09:57:18 task-python-everything compiles on my x86-64 buildmachine Aug 22 09:57:23 although i'm cheating a bit Aug 22 09:57:24 mickey|taxes: look at OE archives - I wrote why this happen Aug 22 09:57:27 CHEATER! Aug 22 09:57:41 mickey|taxes: you built in 32bit chroot? Aug 22 09:57:43 hacking uname and overriding BUILD_SYS is a good thing :D Aug 22 09:57:57 no, it's 64bit userland, i just prevent it to be detected Aug 22 09:58:09 otherwise, a lot of packages don't build here Aug 22 09:58:16 mickey|taxes: so do not tell that it compiles Aug 22 09:58:18 and i never had the time to actually look into that Aug 22 09:58:32 mickey|taxes: I wrote everything needed few months ago Aug 22 09:58:39 and even patched few recipes Aug 22 09:58:45 hrw: ok, as you might know i was away then Aug 22 09:58:52 give me some pointers again Aug 22 09:58:56 mickey|taxes: grep -- --with-python-includes packages/python/* Aug 22 09:58:57 and i'll look at that Aug 22 09:59:12 Crofton: You were also running into the makedev and tinylogin problem during building a rootfs, right? Aug 22 09:59:31 Seems just the /bin is missing Aug 22 09:59:32 mickey|taxes: the problem is that python-* do_configure look into staging/HOST/include Aug 22 09:59:48 Here is a suggested fix: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=740 Aug 22 09:59:59 mickey|taxes: so on 64bit host it get wrong results which gives error (as python guys have check for it) Aug 22 10:00:00 Would you guys be fine with this? Aug 22 10:00:27 It fixes the build for me. Aug 22 10:00:33 stefan_schmidt: or remove binaries from device_table Aug 22 10:00:43 stefan_schmidt: that's a workaround Aug 22 10:01:23 hmm Aug 22 10:01:43 hrw: Which binaries do you refer to? Aug 22 10:01:58 hrw: is that message in the archives or bugzilla? Aug 22 10:03:31 stefan_schmidt: /bin/tinylogin in device_table-minimal.txt, and the others following it in that file Aug 22 10:04:26 rwhitby, hrw: Ah, now I really understand the problem. It's ugly indeed. Aug 22 10:04:56 hmm there is no glibc-2.3.6.bb .. which one will be compatible to a glibc-2.3.6 compiled apps ? Aug 22 10:05:58 seems that makedevs on 32-bit debian etch at least creates whatever intermediate directories it requires (like /bin), but for some reason that's not happening for some people. Aug 22 10:07:14 rwhitby: debian unstable 64-bit here. Not sure on which systems are the others. Aug 22 10:08:10 But if makedevs creates the dir it's more or less the same then doing it with install. The big question is now how you guys like see this fixed? Aug 22 10:14:58 * * OE Bug 2823 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 10:15:00 * * abiword-plugins-2.5.2-r0-do_configure Aug 22 10:15:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2823 Aug 22 10:18:43 stefan_schmidt rwhitby : If its a host thing/problem how about get a makedevs-native and use that ? Aug 22 10:19:18 steliosk: Still the problem persists that makedevs installs binaries into /bin Aug 22 10:19:31 steliosk: I'll update http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2820 Aug 22 10:19:51 stefan_schmidt rwhitby : BTW what trigered that ? it did not showed up a few days ago Aug 22 10:20:41 steliosk: Perhaps a distro update for makdevs? I use debian unstable with more or less daily updates. Aug 22 10:22:03 stefan_schmidt : weird. I don't think my build machine was updated the last few days Aug 22 10:22:18 I build on a ubuntu box, and I have not updated that one as far as I know Aug 22 10:22:26 hmm Aug 22 10:22:35 So that theory goes away Aug 22 10:22:51 Any changes on makedevs in OE the last days? Aug 22 10:22:59 But, I havent build efika before. Aug 22 10:23:22 my previous build was for epia. Not that it probably matters. Aug 22 10:23:26 efika was building fine till a few days ago. my last clean build was last week Aug 22 10:23:31 mickey|taxes: OE archive Aug 22 10:24:01 mickey|taxes: 23.03.2007 - Building Python extensions - mail by me Aug 22 10:24:49 btw, makedevs is in the oe repository isn't it? I don't have it installed on my ubuntu box Aug 22 10:24:55 I have updated #2820 Aug 22 10:25:01 Time for lunch now. Later Aug 22 10:25:45 Maybe the makedevs/makedevs-native packages in OE been updated Aug 22 10:26:33 is this an efika only problem ? what other machines are efected ? Aug 22 10:27:04 makedevs doesn't install things in /bin - it just changes the permissions of existing things I believe Aug 22 10:27:41 I don't know. I don't have enough disk space for epia and efika at the same time. My last build on epia was a few days ago. I then changed to efika, and got the problem. Aug 22 10:28:01 I noticed tinylogin is not installed in efika Aug 22 10:28:35 I think it was in epia, but I might recall incorrecly. Aug 22 10:29:00 (used the same distro just different arch) Aug 22 10:29:21 http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/orphaned_projects.png Aug 22 10:31:24 so looking at openembedded/packages/makedevs/makedevs-1.0.0/makedevs.c, it is clear that it will not create /bin if /bin/tinylogin is referenced in the device table, and there is no directory reference to /bin earlier than that in the file. Aug 22 10:31:54 so perhaps device_table-minimal.txt should be updated with a directory entry for /bin in it before the entries for /bin/tinylogin and others. Aug 22 10:32:29 erm, is it me, or is fiddling with /bin an insane thing to do in device_table-minimal.txt Aug 22 10:32:39 if it had an entry for /dev in it too, then the mkdir of /dev would not be required in image.bb Aug 22 10:32:43 that sounds like a hack that should die yesterday Aug 22 10:32:57 XorA: I guess it's there to set /bin/tinylogin to setuid. Aug 22 10:33:12 the other way is for that to be done in a postinst, right? Aug 22 10:33:26 rwhitby: its totally unintuitive and would be next to impossible to locate for people trying to debug Aug 22 10:33:34 XorA: fully agree. Aug 22 10:33:40 last place I would look for would be the device creator :-) Aug 22 10:33:51 the question is: is there another way to do the same thing? Aug 22 10:35:03 tinylogin, mount and umount are the three files in question, all are setuid. Aug 22 10:35:07 postinst should work, as none of those 3 commands is called by a non-root user until after ipkg configure in first boot Aug 22 10:35:50 although Im not sure tinylogin should be SUID Aug 22 10:35:57 RP : It looks like the .lock files where leftovers from other builds Aug 22 10:36:21 that sounds like a security flaw waiting to happen Aug 22 10:36:33 steliosk: there was a period where .lock files were left over from files:// uri's, but it's been fixed for a couple of days now. Aug 22 10:38:08 those lines in device_table-minimal.txt haven't changed since bitkeeper, so it's a long-standing thing. Aug 22 10:41:01 steliosk: great :) Aug 22 10:41:11 RP : One more question. I have a kernel that uses git-native and git-native is added on the DEPENDS list but when enabling mutlithread in bitbake, git-native does not get build before the do_fetch of the kernel. any idea why ? Aug 22 10:41:30 * RP has wondered about the sanity of the /bin entries in that device creation file Aug 22 10:41:48 well /bin/tinylogin as SUID is not sane :-( Aug 22 10:41:56 traditionally mount/umount are always SUID Aug 22 10:42:31 * RP also votes for adding a /dev entry to remove the need for the mkdir Aug 22 10:42:39 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re542d324... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates: pinpoint OpenMoko U-Boot patches Aug 22 10:42:52 steliosk: Good question, it sounds like something is broken... Aug 22 10:43:36 steliosk: git-native should be added as a dependency of the fetch task though, not added to DEPENDS Aug 22 10:43:47 steliosk: Have a look at the output of bitbake kernel -g Aug 22 10:44:22 looks like makedevs.c was last modified by likewise on 2007-08-20 Aug 22 10:44:38 Revision: b396aa55286b5d00bbc2fba14ef9dd30b82a3af9 Aug 22 10:44:45 makedevs: Add support for creating directories. Aug 22 10:44:46 Hmm. What did he do? :) Aug 22 10:45:42 looking for a working viewmtn now ... Aug 22 10:47:33 rwhitby: Its a strange patch. It looks like it might have just used to have done nothing and it errors now? :/ Aug 22 10:47:51 can you pastebin the patch? Aug 22 10:48:06 RP : but if i have package A that depends on another (B), shouldn't (B) be build first (before A gets fetched or whatever) Aug 22 10:48:54 steliosk: yes Aug 22 10:49:15 steliosk: That is what should be happening. It isn't done through DEPENDS though, its a different kind of dependency Aug 22 10:49:54 rwhitby: http://pastebin.ca/666678 Aug 22 10:50:29 RP: yep, that's what's causing the error. Aug 22 10:50:44 rwhitby: but did it used to do nothing? Aug 22 10:50:54 so either that patch should be reverted, or directory entries need to be added to the device_table Aug 22 10:51:04 RP: seems so Aug 22 10:51:30 in which case, those lines could just be removed from device_table-minimal.txt with no adverse effects. Aug 22 10:51:30 rwhitby: or if those permissions we're created, remove them from the file Aug 22 10:51:35 right :) Aug 22 10:51:44 Does anyone have an older image to see? Aug 22 10:52:05 RP: OZ images shouldbe available Aug 22 10:52:16 RP: I've got slugos releases Aug 22 10:53:12 yes, at the time of slugos 3.10 release, makedevs.c had an empty function for add_new_file Aug 22 10:53:28 Nov 11 2006 Aug 22 10:54:02 but somehow tinylogin ended up setuid in tmp/rootfs/bin Aug 22 10:54:07 mount and umount seem to be none suid, tinylogin is suid in poky Aug 22 10:54:24 and I think poky has the same setup as OE for these bits Aug 22 10:54:42 mount is an alternatives symlink to mount.util-linux and mount.util-linux is indeed setuid Aug 22 10:54:56 I think tinylogin has to be suid so it can log in users and then drop to the right uid Aug 22 10:55:20 rwhitby: I just have busybox mount Aug 22 10:55:39 sluos used util-linux mount so we could do nfs rootfs Aug 22 10:55:56 (at that time busybox couldn't do nfs) Aug 22 10:56:33 umount.util-linux is also suid Aug 22 10:57:34 RP: tinylogin should be run by root, then drop, if its SUID then any user can elevate back to root again, which is dangerous, /bin/login is not SUID on any distro I know of Aug 22 10:58:16 XorA: true, it is started by root. Hmm :/ Aug 22 10:58:42 RP: unless them is some special case for tinylogin, Im not familar with its architecture Aug 22 10:59:07 * RP neither Aug 22 11:00:57 * XorA gets his terrier out and sets tinylogin to not SUID :-) Aug 22 11:06:03 RP: tinylogin == su so needs SUID :-D Aug 22 11:07:09 XorA: right :) Aug 22 11:08:53 hi zecke Aug 22 11:09:29 ho Aug 22 11:10:19 RP: What kind of dependency is that ? any example ? Aug 22 11:15:48 steliosk: base.bbclass, grep for "git". It basically sets do_fetch[depends] = "git-native:do_populate_staging" Aug 22 11:24:10 koen: did you have another go at llvm? Aug 22 11:24:30 zecke: I did, it now has a compile error Aug 22 11:30:04 koen: oh the arm backend was (partially) by indt? Aug 22 11:38:28 koen: which compile error? Aug 22 11:41:50 hiya Aug 22 11:43:19 is there any use in me patching makedevs.c to make full paths when requested? i.e. is it better to do such things as /bin/tinylogin there than from image.bbclass? Aug 22 11:46:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra9b77dce... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): abiword*: update to 2.5.2 Aug 22 11:46:42 XorA: there you go Aug 22 11:47:03 XorA: now we can take distributed notes at OEDEM on our neos :) Aug 22 11:48:43 koen: you think that neos will be as much usable then? Aug 22 11:49:08 hrw: as a phone, no, but we only need abiword + mb-keyboard :) Aug 22 11:50:14 then I will run abiword on my d400 rather ;) Aug 22 11:53:23 * XorA doesnt even get mb-keyboard on neo at the moment :-( Aug 22 12:07:01 torpor: I think someone did patch it to allow path creation recently, thats part of the problem Aug 22 12:16:32 hello Aug 22 12:20:32 so what about the makedev issue ? Should the commit creating the problem be disapproved until we found a way around it ? Aug 22 12:27:12 steliosk: No, we need to fix this properly. To do that we need some facts like whether the /bin entries do enter the image from the source somehow or not Aug 22 12:52:25 koen: do you have any issues with linking to the pdf copy of the OE manual from: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/MainPage? Are the pdf and html copies kept in sync? Aug 22 12:54:11 no problem, but the pdf isn't updated automagically Aug 22 12:54:37 koen: is the html updated automatically, or how does that work? Aug 22 12:54:53 the html is update automagically Aug 22 12:56:06 koen, do you know if the gumstix bad magic number was resolved? Aug 22 12:56:33 nope Aug 22 13:00:10 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r1adf7728... 10/ (1 conf/machine/compulab-pxa270.conf): compulab-pxa270.conf: remove MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS and replace with documentation Aug 22 13:01:06 are you talking about the bad magic error immediately after flashing the kernel in uboot? Aug 22 13:01:18 yeah Aug 22 13:01:44 i dont think it's fixed but i will reflash right now and let you know Aug 22 13:02:22 asmola_, you see bad magic number? Aug 22 13:02:46 im checking right now Aug 22 13:03:21 I think we need more gumstix machines Aug 22 13:03:28 one for each model Aug 22 13:03:38 * Crofton|home agreed Aug 22 13:03:40 i saw that people on the listserv were having issues, my unit booted fine after the changes as of 6pm est yesterday Aug 22 13:03:46 hmmm Aug 22 13:03:53 (since you can't build a mixed pxa255/pxa270 kernel) Aug 22 13:04:04 the problem we are having is the dev's do not have any gusmtix Aug 22 13:04:13 so we are working blind Aug 22 13:04:22 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/gumstix/20070821/ Aug 22 13:04:26 steve is on low end gumstix Aug 22 13:04:36 asmola_, is on high end .... Aug 22 13:05:29 i also noticed that the kernel is detecting iwmmx coprocessor but it gives the 'kernel support is missing' Aug 22 13:05:52 there were some odd filesystem mount issues too, ill post a dmesg output asap Aug 22 13:06:03 (assuming that's something you would be interested in) Aug 22 13:06:16 koen: there was proposal for more gumstix configs Aug 22 13:07:37 hrw we may need more configs to support different kernels by machine? Aug 22 13:08:26 yeah, i was thinking of suggesting that, using buildroot they hve you select machine prior to doing any builds Aug 22 13:08:35 yeah Aug 22 13:08:54 the machine name is used to select the kernel source Aug 22 13:09:14 so maybe they have different patch sets by model? Aug 22 13:09:46 I still have tinylogin issues building an image Aug 22 13:10:11 by the looks of it only a new defconfig is needed for each machine Aug 22 13:10:22 ok Aug 22 13:10:34 * koen discovers buspowered usb scanners Aug 22 13:10:35 does that mean we need to use different machine names? Aug 22 13:10:47 yes Aug 22 13:10:53 e.g. gumstix-verdex Aug 22 13:11:00 i just reflashed, the magic number is being set properly Aug 22 13:11:02 ok Aug 22 13:11:07 for verdex :) Aug 22 13:11:11 yes :) Aug 22 13:12:04 if people weren't some damn nice, I would never hang out here ,.,,, Aug 22 13:13:44 asmola_, so you can build working images? Aug 22 13:13:52 with some hiccups? Aug 22 13:14:10 can you post the problems to the bug tracker Aug 22 13:14:31 bugs.openembedded.org, be sure to list gumstix-verdex in the report Aug 22 13:14:48 yeah i can do that Aug 22 13:15:04 thanks, that way we won't lose it, we will just be able to ignore it :) Aug 22 13:15:12 rofl Aug 22 13:15:44 hrw, you are teh celinux-test distro guy? Aug 22 13:19:14 morning Aug 22 13:19:19 gm Aug 22 13:19:21 just as I make te pxa255/pxa270 comment eric miao sends a patch to LAK to solve that :) Aug 22 13:20:00 hey chouimat Aug 22 13:20:27 Crofton|home: nope now Aug 22 13:20:37 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2078 Aug 22 13:20:47 NOTE: package glibc-2.6.1-r0: task do_fetch: started Aug 22 13:20:52 lists it as distro, but the problem may be "generic" Aug 22 13:21:09 I am trying to eliminate all bugs with "omap" in them Aug 22 13:21:34 * XorA nukes Crofton|home and declares OMAP not supported, there problem solved Aug 22 13:21:54 hrw: did you get my mail about ELC in linz? Aug 22 13:21:54 * Crofton|home kicks XorA Aug 22 13:22:10 Crofton|home: patch looks ok Aug 22 13:22:13 * koen hides his 2 omap devices Aug 22 13:22:40 hyyeeee war ... diaspora !!! :P Aug 22 13:22:56 dos anyone know what runltp is ? Aug 22 13:23:05 gremlin[it]: I saw lacuna coil this weekend Aug 22 13:23:11 Crofton|home: its part of LTP package Aug 22 13:23:11 Crofton: linux test project Aug 22 13:23:23 koen: I did, but no idea about funds Aug 22 13:23:59 should we apply the patch and close the bug? Aug 22 13:24:02 uhhh nice ... i like them ... theyr cover of "enjoy the silence" is great :) Aug 22 13:24:17 Crofton|home: yes Aug 22 13:24:18 gremlin[it]: they played that as well :) Aug 22 13:24:52 koen, what omap devices? Aug 22 13:24:56 mhh they played also the cover of "big in japan" ... ? Aug 22 13:26:04 koen: going all teeny goth on us :-D Aug 22 13:28:31 hi Aug 22 13:30:09 Does anyone here use the ltp? Aug 22 13:33:10 Crofton|home: I am currently considering using it on a project. Aug 22 13:33:21 Crofton|home: but don't have any experience with it yet Aug 22 13:33:25 I am goign to apply the patch Aug 22 13:34:14 let us know if you have any problems? Aug 22 13:34:37 I will update the bug as patch applied, needs testing to close Aug 22 13:34:58 XorA: If I saw NiN and chris cornell as well, does that make me a teeny emy industrial goth? Aug 22 13:35:12 koen: heh heh yeah Aug 22 13:35:28 koen: NIN played Edin last night, but supporting the bloody Fu Fighters Aug 22 13:35:33 koen: so I didnt bother going Aug 22 13:35:45 they were LOUD Aug 22 13:36:14 koen: thats the way we like them Aug 22 13:36:15 that is why I where ear plugs at live music events these days :) Aug 22 13:36:32 I started wearing earplug 5 years ago :) Aug 22 13:37:09 back in the "good old days", when I frequented bars with bands Aug 22 13:37:18 LOUD as is "wear a belt or lose you trousers" Aug 22 13:37:24 there was "an old guy" who wore over the head ear muffs while dancing Aug 22 13:38:25 although loudest I ever heard was the Mission who didnt seem to get how to work volume controls, yanked everything to 11 and succeeded into turning all sound into square waves Aug 22 13:43:41 screen -rd Aug 22 13:46:07 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc3529caf... 10/ (1 classes/distutils.bbclass): distutils.bbclass: always install staging directory before calling python Aug 22 13:46:12 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9aa7ad52... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-evas_cvs.bb): python-evas: bump PR as per distutils change Aug 22 13:46:24 grrr, now QA issues with ltp Aug 22 13:46:50 ERROR: QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory: ltp path /work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ltp-20070228-r0/install/ltp/usr/libexec/ltp/testcases/misc/math/float/.debug/float_iperb Aug 22 13:46:56 and millions like it Aug 22 13:46:58 * * OE Bug 2824 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 13:47:00 * * abiword-embedded-2.5.2-r0-do_install Aug 22 13:47:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2824 Aug 22 13:47:10 * * OE Bug 2825 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 13:47:12 * * abiword-plugins-2.4.6-r0-do_compile Aug 22 13:47:15 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2825 Aug 22 13:49:51 * XorA hates the way the press works sometimes, people narrowly escape fines by not actually doing anything illegal Aug 22 13:53:57 * * OE Bug 2825 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by Aug 22 13:53:59 * *  abiword-plugins-2.4.6-r0-do_compile Aug 22 13:54:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2825 Aug 22 13:54:09 * * OE Bug 2824 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by Aug 22 13:54:11 * *  abiword-embedded-2.5.2-r0-do_install Aug 22 13:54:13 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2824 Aug 22 14:08:05 lisppaste7: help Aug 22 14:08:05 To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/oe and enter your paste. Aug 22 14:08:29 :D Aug 22 14:08:41 how can we get that for OE? Aug 22 14:08:43 no Aug 22 14:08:44 OM, even Aug 22 14:08:53 zecke pasted "header changes for mickeyl" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46548 Aug 22 14:09:38 mickeyl: http://paste.lisp.org/email it seems Aug 22 14:09:38 mickeyl: mail lisppaste-requests@common-lisp.net Aug 22 14:09:42 what do we need to build to get a native gdk-pixbuf-csource? Aug 22 14:09:52 mickeyl: gtk-native Aug 22 14:09:57 * hrw hides Aug 22 14:09:59 bummer Aug 22 14:10:03 i was afraid of that Aug 22 14:10:10 that's a deal breaker Aug 22 14:10:13 mickeyl: we have bug for it Aug 22 14:10:18 which one? Aug 22 14:11:51 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2336 Aug 22 14:11:57 gtk-native is easy nowadays with the (direct)fb frontend Aug 22 14:11:57 * hrw|afk -> afk Aug 22 14:13:04 koen: oh, good point. did you add that note to the bug yet? Aug 22 14:26:57 * * OE Bug 2816 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 22 14:26:59 * *  qt4-x11-free Aug 22 14:27:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2816 Aug 22 14:29:01 zecke pasted "final patch for mickeyl" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46549 Aug 22 14:32:21 * XorA wonders why bitbake abiword-plugins-2.5.2 also tries to build 2.4.6 Aug 22 14:34:30 koen, should I go ahead and look into creating new gumstix machine to handle the kernel issue? Aug 22 14:34:56 please do Aug 22 14:35:03 ok Aug 22 14:36:15 ltp has billions of .debug dirs, trying to do teh monkey work to get teh QA log down to a sane size b4 pushing Aug 22 14:37:12 * koen recommends using '*' Aug 22 14:37:30 yeah Aug 22 14:38:13 when will we have FILESREGEXP ? Aug 22 14:38:28 can I do */*/*/.debug then */*/.debug? Aug 22 14:39:18 Crofton|home: I have a Gumstix so I can help with the testing. Aug 22 14:39:37 philippe1work, which one? Aug 22 14:41:14 Crofton|home: Gumstix connex I believe. A relatively old one. PXA255 400Mhz without BT, 4MB flash and I have the audio and network boards Aug 22 14:41:34 ok Aug 22 14:41:49 asmola, has a verdex and I am not sure what sakoman has Aug 22 14:41:56 I think he has lowest end Aug 22 14:42:21 so, today, when I procrastinate, I need to make gumtix-basix, -connex, and -verdex Aug 22 14:42:34 same source and patches, different defconfigs? Aug 22 14:43:03 Crofton|home: I think so. However basix and connex should be almost similar. I believe it is just a different connector Aug 22 14:44:07 I just see on the website that new models have 16MB flash while the old ones had 4 Aug 22 14:45:23 ah they call them XM if they have 16MB of flash Aug 22 14:46:02 Crofton|home: so that might mean gumstix-basix and connex. Gumstix-basix-XM and connex-XM and -verdex Aug 22 14:47:38 * philippe1work really needs to learn more about machine and kernel configs in OE Aug 22 14:49:30 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r054b937d... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb): qt-x11-free 4.3.0: removed bashism, closes bug #2816 Aug 22 14:49:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r50febb55... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): glibc: update to 2.6.1 Aug 22 14:49:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8863ac88... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom 2008: catch up with glibc 2.6.1 Aug 22 14:50:21 ~praise polyonymous_ Aug 22 14:50:22 All hail polyonymous_! Aug 22 14:52:32 ljp: Is it a joke that configure of Qtopia fixes the headers it ships? Aug 22 14:54:57 * * OE Bug 2826 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 14:54:59 * * openmoko-dialer2-0.1.0+svnr2782-r2-do_compile Aug 22 14:55:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2826 Aug 22 14:56:00 ouch, I bet I was that :) Aug 22 14:56:20 no Iwasn't Aug 22 14:58:12 ljp: lol :) Aug 22 15:02:40 speaking of polyonymous_, mickeyl, just to make sure, you've got my email, haveyou? Aug 22 15:02:57 got it, thanks Aug 22 15:03:11 ok thanks. Aug 22 15:04:42 as my old ericsson is getting close to its end, I'm starting to eye neo... Aug 22 15:06:36 I did some checks, the tinylogin binary gets its suid bit set in the packages themselves. That device table entry is bigus Aug 22 15:06:40 bogus Aug 22 15:10:57 * * OE Bug 2827 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 15:10:59 * * openmoko-dialer2-0.1.0+svnr2784-r2-do_compile Aug 22 15:11:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2827 Aug 22 15:18:11 wiki says that root for OE must be in place with no symlinks above it.. i can't get if it's possible to use /stuff->/Volumes... as a root for OE? Aug 22 15:18:35 i.e. when root /stuff is symlink itself and threre are no syms anywhere else under it. Aug 22 15:19:21 yakov: why do you want to name it stuff? Aug 22 15:20:01 well, why stuff is bad? :) Aug 22 15:20:16 actually i want it to be in the / and on a DMG also. Aug 22 15:20:20 so i used sym Aug 22 15:21:28 zecke, are you using OE under Mac OSX? :) Aug 22 15:21:52 i'm folowing wiki instructions to get it up on Mac OSX at the moment.. Aug 22 15:21:52 no Aug 22 15:21:55 koen, how does linux.inc find the defconfig for the gumstix? Aug 22 15:22:08 yakov: you certainly need a brain when trying to use OE on OSX Aug 22 15:22:40 yakov: just go into your mounted DMG and build there Aug 22 15:22:43 hm.. you mean it's tricky? Aug 22 15:23:17 it's not tricky, you need a brain because you can't assume everything to work out of the box Aug 22 15:23:49 seemed to be easierthen insall another Linux OS on MacBook :) Aug 22 15:26:09 Crofton: using overrides in filespath Aug 22 15:26:31 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd1a87510... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): device_tables: Remove bogus /bin/ entries (never did anything, recent makedevs fixes showed up the problem though). Also create /dev directory before populating Aug 22 15:26:37 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rbd20f47b... 10/ (1 classes/image.bbclass classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass): image/rootfs_ipk: Remove uneeded mkdir calls Aug 22 15:26:42 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r279d6a58... 10/ (1 packages/images/angstrom-minimal-image-with-mtd-utils.bb): angstrom-minimal-image-with-mtd-utils.bb: add image Aug 22 15:26:47 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r61fbd617... 10/ (1 conf/machine/compulab-pxa270.conf): Aug 22 15:26:47 compulab-pxa270.conf: use angstrom-minimal-image-with-mtd-utils Aug 22 15:26:47 instead of encouraging image modificatications in local.conf Aug 22 15:27:44 hello all! I'm attempting an angstrom image build from scratch and it is failing on a u-boot package when applying a the mokoversion.patch. Is this a known issue? Aug 22 15:43:15 christopher, try doing bitbake u-boot-mkimage-openmoko-native Aug 22 15:43:35 and then try and bitbake your angstrom image agian Aug 22 15:44:41 christopher_, ^^^^ Aug 22 15:48:19 asmola, we should have fixed that ... Aug 22 15:49:16 i thought you had, but i figured i would offer that up as help to him Aug 22 15:51:49 it looks like it is trying to build teh openmoko uboot to get the tools Aug 22 15:52:56 koen: Crofton|home : I posted a patch to kernel omap builds Aug 22 15:53:44 Crofton|home: Inspiration was bug 1744 Aug 22 15:54:07 ok, I'll watch for it Aug 22 15:55:25 uh oh.. http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/ - Forbidden Aug 22 15:56:23 yakov, I think that has been broken for a bit Aug 22 15:56:44 * chouimat loves those days when he can feel the Earth rotation Aug 22 15:57:18 btw, which versions of metadata is available at the momment? Aug 22 15:57:48 those like org.openembedded.dev and others liste as "dev branches".. Aug 22 15:57:50 ? Aug 22 15:58:10 .dev is the only current one Aug 22 15:58:27 .oz354x is the now historic OpenZaurus branch Aug 22 15:58:41 and .dreambox is OE for the dreambox Aug 22 15:59:23 thx, now terminology is clear.. Aug 22 16:00:57 * * OE Bug 2828 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 16:00:59 * * openmoko-dialer2-0.1.0+svnr2790-r2-do_compile Aug 22 16:01:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2828 Aug 22 16:02:11 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r842df413... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-ml403-slab-2.6.x_git.bb): Aug 22 16:02:11 packages/linux/linux-ml403-slab-2.6.x_git.bb : Make sure git-native builds before the Aug 22 16:02:11 ml403 kernel fetcher kicks in Aug 22 16:04:13 RP: http://pastebin.ca/666946, can this be related with your recent rootfs change? Aug 22 16:11:28 zecke: yes, we probably need to mkdir IMAGE_ROOTFS Aug 22 16:11:44 zecke: You've just proven nobody uses USE_DEVFS though. Perhaps we can remove that :) Aug 22 16:12:31 zecke: I will push a fix Aug 22 16:15:58 * * OE Bug 2829 has been created by adam.smola(AT)gmail.com Aug 22 16:16:00 * * Gumstix-Verdex Angstrom Distribution Issues Aug 22 16:16:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2829 Aug 22 16:16:43 zecke: pushed Aug 22 16:18:32 pulled Aug 22 16:31:36 bitbake -crebuild blah is supposed to clean out the build dir no? Aug 22 16:32:02 philippe1work: yes, clean should be the first task it runs Aug 22 16:32:08 good evening Aug 22 16:32:14 hi pH5 Aug 22 16:32:25 hmm, it seems not to do that in my case... Aug 22 16:33:03 let's update it... Aug 22 16:33:57 * * OE Bug 2690 has been REOPENED by hvontres(AT)gmail.com Aug 22 16:33:59 * *  Script to make zaurus images usable Aug 22 16:34:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2690 Aug 22 16:40:43 ~lart Qtopia :} Aug 22 16:40:44 * ibot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Qtopia :}!" and lops off Qtopia :}'s head Aug 22 16:41:04 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd375e276... 10/ (65 files in 3 dirs): Aug 22 16:41:04 KERNEL_IMAGETYPE cleanup Aug 22 16:41:04 Proper place for KERNEL_IMAGETYPE is machine config as there is no machine Aug 22 16:41:04 which use miscelanous types of kernel. Moved found occurences. Aug 22 16:41:11 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1fc3f2af... 10/ (1 classes/image.bbclass): image.bbclass: Add the mkdir back in a different form. This proves nobody uses USE_DEVFS and we should consider removing it, Aug 22 16:42:46 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r0cf9456f... 10/ (1 packages/ltp/ltp_20070228.bb): Aug 22 16:42:46 ltp_20070228.bb : Apply patch from bug #2078. Move .debug directories to debug package. Aug 22 16:42:46 Still has QA failures. Aug 22 16:42:58 * * OE Bug 2830 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 16:43:00 * * linux-2.6.21-r6-do_unpack Aug 22 16:43:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2830 Aug 22 16:55:34 ok, gumstix built angstrom-minimal-image for me Aug 22 16:56:13 Crofton|home: hello Aug 22 16:56:27 hi Aug 22 16:56:55 I'm having a stresful day, behind quota on thesis editing Aug 22 16:57:27 Crofton|home: OK take it easy and concentrate on it :) Aug 22 16:57:44 is koen around ? Aug 22 16:57:57 * * OE Bug 2827 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2826 by Aug 22 16:57:59 * *  openmoko-dialer2-0.1.0+svnr2784-r2-do_compile Aug 22 16:58:01 hmm Aug 22 16:58:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2827 Aug 22 16:58:10 * * OE Bug 2828 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2826 by Aug 22 16:58:11 that suggests he is clsoe to a kb Aug 22 16:58:12 * *  openmoko-dialer2-0.1.0+svnr2790-r2-do_compile Aug 22 16:58:14 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2828 Aug 22 16:58:16 and thinking oe Aug 22 16:58:22 * * OE Bug 2822 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 22 16:58:24 * *  abiword-embedded-2.5.2-r0-do_compile Aug 22 16:58:26 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2822 Aug 22 16:58:34 * * OE Bug 2818 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 22 16:58:36 * *  abiword-embedded-2.5.2-r0-do_configure Aug 22 16:58:38 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2818 Aug 22 16:58:46 * * OE Bug 2823 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 22 16:58:48 * *  abiword-plugins-2.5.2-r0-do_configure Aug 22 16:58:50 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2823 Aug 22 16:59:16 I have stuck my foot into the gusmtix tarpit Aug 22 16:59:40 Crofton|home: What kind of board is used by gumstix Aug 22 16:59:41 prepare to new qemu Aug 22 16:59:48 which I should have done, except that I have a little interest in asome of the apps people are intersted in Aug 22 16:59:55 khem: gumstix is pxa255/27x based Aug 22 16:59:55 www.gumstix.com Aug 22 17:00:10 yeh I am looking at this website Aug 22 17:00:25 but it seems they manufacture many Aug 22 17:00:29 * khem types Aug 22 17:13:58 * * OE Bug 2826 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 22 17:14:00 * *  openmoko-dialer2-0.1.0+svnr2782-r2-do_compile Aug 22 17:14:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2826 Aug 22 17:16:30 bye Aug 22 17:17:51 khem, I'll look at the patch again, after I finish edtting chapter 3 Aug 22 17:18:40 heh ok :) Aug 22 17:18:56 khem: I have the same concerns as Crofton|home, but as you say, one step at a time Aug 22 17:20:03 koen, what it boils down to is how many tasks I can execute at once :) Aug 22 17:20:05 koen: yeah I know when I was doing this I was finding it hard to stop :) Aug 22 17:20:15 but then I remembered Rome was not built in a day Aug 22 17:20:19 that is why I am trying not to start :) Aug 22 17:21:45 which MACNINE is used if I omit this line in *.conf file? Aug 22 17:22:13 khem, given it will do EABI versus OABI, I should be able to commit it fairly easily Aug 22 17:22:28 ok Aug 22 17:22:30 I jsut can't get sucked in to OE for likely the reast of the day Aug 22 17:22:44 understood :) Aug 22 17:22:51 because it is more fun and rewarding than "the thesis" Aug 22 17:23:16 stupid meetings Aug 22 17:23:25 yeah Aug 22 17:23:30 the meeting at 5 will likely cause me to go on strike at work Aug 22 17:23:30 I have one at 11 Aug 22 17:25:02 RP: do kernels > 2.6.21 run on spitz? For me the pxamci driver is broken since 2.6.21-rc1 Aug 22 17:29:47 I have 2.6.21-g9e120db9-dirty Aug 22 17:30:56 that is 2.6.21-r10 Aug 22 17:31:31 hm.. that is still before the mmc merge? in the rc1 window? Aug 22 17:31:49 90e07d9f54c61449dd48eff82e2354d0124d4f7e is first one that compiles but doesn't work for me Aug 22 17:32:05 (the mmc is not recognized, pxamci says "unrecognized SCR structure version 1") Aug 22 17:32:25 the few commits before that don't even build Aug 22 17:32:31 I haven't checked what it is upstream. I haven't tested mmc, anyway. Aug 22 17:33:00 ok. guess I'll need to do a write-up and ask the mmc guys for help Aug 22 17:33:58 Maybe. I'm no kernel hacker, this is the kernel that builds with no config tweaking (or at least it was at 9th of august). But I've done my best to provide helpful info :) Aug 22 17:34:14 polyonymous_: much appreciated :) Aug 22 17:38:46 http://www.bulletproofbaby.net/ Aug 22 17:39:21 koen, do you sell this? Aug 22 17:40:27 no Aug 22 17:40:38 that sight is (hopefully) fake Aug 22 17:41:17 site* Aug 22 17:41:41 heh Aug 22 17:42:03 hmm, nothing in stock .... Aug 22 17:42:22 why did the lady shut her own ears, but not baby's? Aug 22 17:43:23 her aim was also bad Aug 22 17:44:45 guys, is it possible to build something minimal [to use under qemu] in order to test OE sanity operation? Aug 22 17:44:54 the aim of this whole thing is somewhat doubtful ;-) Aug 22 17:44:58 hello all Aug 22 17:45:07 hi Aug 22 17:45:31 RP: could you spoil a minute on my x86_64 question? Aug 22 17:47:35 http://www.glumbert.com/media/irack Aug 22 17:48:19 ..one more question if i may, how long does gpe-image take to build? say, on core2duo system? Aug 22 17:50:28 1 to 2 hrs I guess Aug 22 17:52:29 well, am right that after i've run bitbake nano (distro=angstrom), and than bitbake gpe-image last must take shorter time bacause some dependencies are already built? Aug 22 17:55:20 yakov: yes, unless you change machine or distro, it doesn't have to build gcc/glibc anymore, for example Aug 22 17:59:40 yakov: yes, that reduces the build by an hour or so, because the toolchain is mostly there Aug 22 18:00:04 Oops, missed pH5's answer. Aug 22 18:01:06 likewise: nm, the fact that we're in agreement gives credibility to our answers :) Aug 22 18:02:00 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3206ed00... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): freetype: added 2.3.5 from Poky (target and native) Aug 22 18:02:04 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * raacb5cae... 10/ (1 packages/qemu/qemu-qop-nogfx-native_svn.bb): qemu-qop-nogfx-native: dropped Aug 22 18:02:09 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0f10ccfb... 10/ (31 files in 3 dirs): qemu: added 20070613 version from Poky - this works on 32 and 64 bit machines Aug 22 18:02:13 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * reaf6fede... 10/ (1 packages/qemu/qemu_cvs.bb): qemu: let 20070613 be default Aug 22 18:03:07 nice, time to rebuild qemu Aug 22 18:03:56 64 bit machines, yay. Aug 22 18:07:56 re Aug 22 18:08:11 thx goes to many people in OE and in OH Aug 22 18:09:34 pH5: Yes, 2.6.22 is running on spitz here Aug 22 18:09:59 likewise: I know little about _64, what's the question? Aug 22 18:10:46 RP: The TARGET_ARCH issue I brought up on the OE ML, which you responded to I think Aug 22 18:10:57 RP: ok, so it's not pxamci alone. I get "unrecognized SCR structure version 1" for all my sd cards :( Aug 22 18:11:23 pH5: We hack around that warning in the linux-rp kernels iirc Aug 22 18:11:34 likewise: ah, on the mailing list. Aug 22 18:11:55 likewise: I will reply although probably not now, maybe later Aug 22 18:13:51 Acutally I have a few minutes apparently :) Aug 22 18:14:40 likewise: do_configure_x86_64 () { } Aug 22 18:14:53 likewise: when it will be called? Aug 22 18:16:15 hrw: Sorry, I do not understand your question? Aug 22 18:16:32 likewise: The TARGET_ARCH issue you brought up on the OE ML Aug 22 18:16:44 likewise: x86-64 contra x86_64 Aug 22 18:16:47 hrw: yes Aug 22 18:17:10 if we will use x86_64-sth as machine name then we will break OVERRIDES. Aug 22 18:17:47 as you can have do_configure_machine_append then you will get do_configure_x86_64 - what is x86 and what is 64 in that case? Aug 22 18:19:20 hrw: I'm not very experienced using overrides. I see that "do_configure_machine_append" can result into "do_configure_x86_64" but I do not understand why that last name cannot be a task name? Aug 22 18:19:40 bitbake breaks everything at the underscores? Aug 22 18:19:59 yes - it breaks at underscore Aug 22 18:20:33 and I told messy a bit - will rephrase Aug 22 18:20:50 as you can have do_configure_machine_append and you can do do_configure_x86_64 - what is x86 and what is 64 in that case? Aug 22 18:21:38 hrw: then the opposite question: how should I cope with the libc-headers bitbake recipe, which assume "x86_64" for TARGET_ARCH? Make an exception for it? Aug 22 18:22:27 for me TARGET_ARCH == x86_64 is rather ok. but not x86_64 in machine name Aug 22 18:22:53 hrw: ah, ok. I think that would work. Aug 22 18:23:15 hrw: thanks Aug 22 18:25:07 np Aug 22 18:25:25 like|bbiab: I think my main concern was that you want to change PACKAGE_ARCH in these machine tune files to avoid the problem you mentioned Aug 22 18:25:50 like|bbiab: When choosing these PACKAGE_ARCH values, avoid underscores to save yourself pain in the future Aug 22 18:26:36 My original mail should have had a s/TARGET_ARCH/PACKAGE_ARCH/ in the second paragraph, sorry :/ Aug 22 18:26:41 * RP -> gone now Aug 22 18:26:46 scap.linuxtogo.org refreshed a bit Aug 22 18:33:28 http://pastebin.ca/667104 Aug 22 18:33:37 shit. Aug 22 18:35:37 what do you think is it a bug? Aug 22 18:36:03 yakov: macosx on intelmac? Aug 22 18:36:13 yeah.. Aug 22 18:36:22 not so tested combo Aug 22 18:39:33 which anstrom version u all suggest to make just testing ... 2007.1 2007.1-legacy 2008.1 ? Aug 22 18:40:17 hrw, what should i do with it then? Aug 22 18:41:29 gremlin[it]: use 2007.1 Aug 22 18:41:57 yakov: best would be catch someone with macosx here who use OE for longer time Aug 22 18:41:58 * * OE Bug 2820 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by stefan(AT)datenfreihafen.org Aug 22 18:42:00 * *  do_make_rootfs fails on makedevs Aug 22 18:42:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2820 Aug 22 18:42:14 or donate me machine with osX and I will look in spare time ;d Aug 22 18:42:23 :) Aug 22 18:42:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra683bbf7... 10/ (1 packages/libgphoto2/libgphoto2_2.4.0.bb): libgphoto2: add 2.4.0 Aug 22 18:42:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rea274418... 10/ (1 packages/gphoto2/gphoto2_2.4.0.bb): gphoto2: update to 2.4.0 Aug 22 18:42:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb2043e7a... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): sane-backends: update to 1.0.17 Aug 22 18:45:05 hi hrw! ... mhhh but i have the annoing but on rxvt-unicode/ncurses-native that bock compilation :( Aug 22 18:48:33 hrw: qemu-native is broken: http://rafb.net/p/zplDD311.html Aug 22 18:49:24 shit.. worked for me - will check Aug 22 18:52:22 sane-srcdates... Aug 22 18:54:23 ok, posted to the list.. Aug 22 18:56:48 koen, the majr reason for using the manual image assmebly in linux.inc is to get a reasonable name passed to the -n arg? Aug 22 18:57:09 yes Aug 22 18:57:42 now go back to your thesis :) Aug 22 18:57:44 I am going to look into ways to do that, without needing the manaul mkimage call Aug 22 18:57:46 yeah Aug 22 18:57:56 I think I see a path Aug 22 18:58:04 by inserting something into the defconfig Aug 22 18:59:14 koen: fix pushed Aug 22 19:00:53 thanks Aug 22 19:05:47 koen: Do you know the logic to generate locales Aug 22 19:05:55 nope Aug 22 19:06:10 hrw: where did you push it to? Aug 22 19:06:32 koen: Aug 22 19:06:57 I am trying to work on the cross locale generation Aug 22 19:06:59 :) Aug 22 19:07:10 anyway I will try to decipher more Aug 22 19:09:57 wow, I even told him to use his brain.... Aug 22 19:10:31 brains.... Aug 22 19:11:27 zecke: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/436aa0f1344308f3001913ba651eefb6.png Aug 22 19:11:54 koen: mickeyl pointed me to these shots Aug 22 19:11:59 koen: do you like it? Aug 22 19:12:05 yes Aug 22 19:12:16 alotugh the search thingy takes up a lot of space Aug 22 19:12:25 bleh, and I can't type Aug 22 19:13:09 whose picture is that ? Aug 22 19:13:10 do you want to have a fullscreen button? Aug 22 19:13:25 khem: iirc lucas rocha Aug 22 19:13:26 gestures? Aug 22 19:13:41 yeh Aug 22 19:14:13 koen: or do you think searching in HTML is not wanted? Aug 22 19:14:24 yeah, hrw, where did you push it to? :) Aug 22 19:14:42 zecke: I think it's wanted, but the current UI takes up too much space Aug 22 19:17:31 mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting Aug 22 19:17:35 pushing again Aug 22 19:17:56 koen: use your time to report issues before I turn evil and work for certain companies (e.g. M$) Aug 22 19:18:11 zecke: turn evil? Aug 22 19:18:18 you are already evil Aug 22 19:18:23 ah right Aug 22 19:18:29 yeah - thats not a far trip Aug 22 19:18:53 ah Aug 22 19:22:39 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf45f0798... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates: fix qemu date Aug 22 19:23:31 Any good description how to build one distro for more then one machines? It inherits multimachine but somehow I can't find any hints in the manual or the wiki about how to use it. Aug 22 19:24:04 passing MACHINE via env? Aug 22 19:24:24 nooooo! Aug 22 19:24:29 use auto.conf Aug 22 19:24:56 what is actually the big difference between auto.conf and local.conf, I never seemed to get it? Aug 22 19:24:56 sorry :-) Aug 22 19:25:02 for i in ep93xx h6300 fic-gta01 a780 a1200 e680 rokr-e2 at91sam9263ek qemuarm h2200 h4000 nslu2le ixp4xxle nokia770 omap5912osk poodle tosa h5000 magician htcuniversal htctornado hx2000 hx4700 c7x0 spitz akita netbook-pro progear guinness qemux86 mx31ads nokia800 efika nslu2be ixp4xxbe collie h3600 h3800 simpad htcwallaby ; do Aug 22 19:25:03 echo "MACHINE = \"$i\"" > conf/auto.conf Aug 22 19:25:04 bitbake -c clean libtool-cross Aug 22 19:25:04 bitbake $* ; done Aug 22 19:25:41 hmm... why is it any better? Aug 22 19:25:41 koen: thanks Aug 22 19:26:52 polyonymous_: bitbake doesn't really track environment changes Aug 22 19:27:19 zecke, shouldn't the stuff bitbake caches be target-independent? Aug 22 19:27:47 binutils breaks with MAHCINE in env Aug 22 19:27:59 polyonymous_: good point, but still it is fragile Aug 22 19:28:12 koen, oh really? Damn, I've been building this way for quite a while now ;-) Aug 22 19:28:13 koen: does it break for you? we should unexport... Aug 22 19:28:46 koen: please remove progear from list and add alix instead Aug 22 19:31:04 I think requirement for arch-independence of cached stuff should be a subject of some QA test... Theoretically, at least ;-) Aug 22 19:41:29 re Aug 22 19:41:47 hi koen, Crofton, polyonymous_, zecke, Jin^eLD , phew, all! Aug 22 19:41:58 ho Aug 22 19:42:35 hey likewise :) Aug 22 19:43:06 Jin^eLD: the board is postponed until after the International Broadcast Convention... they need it for a demo there... Aug 22 19:43:29 likewise, quite a list ;-) hi ;-) Aug 22 19:43:34 likewise: I get the feeling you'd be faster looking for another board ;) Aug 22 19:43:48 Jin^eLD: do you know alternative solutions? Aug 22 19:44:11 Jin^eLD: maybe your company could do some consulting for us... Aug 22 19:44:26 hmm, good questions, none that I would recommend for HD.. at least I know the STB810 has its issues with full HD content Aug 22 19:44:35 likewise: will you be at IBC? Aug 22 19:44:41 zecke: yes, you? Aug 22 19:44:47 zecke: not all days Aug 22 19:44:59 likewise: you mean try to help you to get the wis board for evaluation? Aug 22 19:45:15 likewise: no, but my boss and colleague and we will be at the BMCO booth Aug 22 19:45:31 Jin^eLD: no, more like maybe your company can do some work on it, or work on it together. Aug 22 19:46:33 that is a possible option, allthough i would be the wrong one to ask; I can however provide you with the proper contacts and forward your request Aug 22 19:46:55 I think our people could be interested in such a cooperation Aug 22 19:48:06 likewise : btw will you be at IFA? Aug 22 19:49:31 bye Aug 22 19:49:46 Jin^eLD: no, we are not in the consumer market Aug 22 19:50:53 Jin^eLD: I will have to ask my boss, but we have a bbq on the 4th of september (obviously in berlin) Aug 22 19:51:40 zecke: unfortunately I won't be at IFA :( just thought I might hook likewise up with some of our ppl Aug 22 19:52:46 ah Aug 22 19:52:58 who are your people? (I'm with gmit-gmbh.de) Aug 22 19:53:34 zecke: StreamUnlimited Engineering Aug 22 19:53:42 www.streamunlimited.com Aug 22 19:54:27 zecke: Nice picture of your phone plus the reciever on the website :) Aug 22 19:55:18 nowadays I'm not ashamed of the website Aug 22 19:56:10 zecke: Why not? It's php ;) Aug 22 19:56:11 zecke: your company uses Linux a lot? OE? Aug 22 19:56:17 stefan_schmidt: :-) Aug 22 19:56:22 well, ours is back to "ok" now, there was a phase where I was sort of ashamed of it :) Aug 22 20:00:58 * * OE Bug 2831 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 22 20:01:00 * * qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613-r4-do_populate_staging Aug 22 20:01:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 Aug 22 20:05:35 likewise: well, our BenQ DVB-H terminals use Linux and OE (probably one of the earliest adaptors and donors of OE) Aug 22 20:06:05 likewise: but we are whores and do what we get paid for :) Aug 22 20:07:02 zecke: isn't it the same everywhere ;) Aug 22 20:07:32 autobuild should really provide at least revision of the tree being built. Aug 22 20:08:21 polyonymous_: and the bitbake revision used Aug 22 20:08:42 likewise, this is bitbake folks' concern ;-) Aug 22 20:09:00 polyonymous_: no. a build should be reproducable afterwards, so versions matter Aug 22 20:09:11 ~lart speed of my machine Aug 22 20:09:12 * ibot gives speed of my machine a good seeing to Aug 22 20:09:28 likewise, well, right, but if you're going that far, then failure log too ;-) Aug 22 20:09:34 I have fix for 2831 Aug 22 20:10:11 polyonymous_: yes, well actually, I'm setting up my build server like that. I even want to boot targets and do run-time tests. Aug 22 20:10:28 hrw, ah, so you even know it's true ;-) Aug 22 20:10:29 so whats up with makedevs not making paths for things like /bin/tinylogin .. anyone working on that/got a reasonable clue about a fix? Aug 22 20:10:31 polyonymous_: which is quite normal. (not that I did it before). Aug 22 20:11:10 likewise, yeah. But I was complaining about pointlessness of these reports, not insufficience thereof ;-) Aug 22 20:11:40 torpor: update metadata Aug 22 20:11:54 howsat? Aug 22 20:12:06 hrw, and I have one more "fix" for qemu (picking up my gcc3), should I wait for you to push your stuff or does it matter? Aug 22 20:12:23 polyonymous_: if you can wait half hour Aug 22 20:12:46 hrw, I can, but would it conflict with qemu-native_20070613.bb ? Aug 22 20:12:57 (this is where my changes go into) Aug 22 20:13:12 torpor: I think your update problem is more an #openmoko problem. Let us go over. Aug 22 20:13:19 it doesn't have much more except for this gcc thing. Aug 22 20:13:53 polyonymous_: go ahead with it Aug 22 20:14:08 stefan_schmidt: ok Aug 22 20:14:15 ok Aug 22 20:14:23 hrw: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 Aug 22 20:15:58 hrw, will do, I'm waiting for justincasey build to finish. Aug 22 20:17:58 koen: 22 22:09 < hrw> I have fix for 2831 Aug 22 20:21:32 but building qemu-native on this box takes some time Aug 22 20:22:54 Hi do you know who submitted this question in FAQ "When I build glibc,it failed and told me "FATAL:kernel too old",but my kernel version is 2.6" Aug 22 20:23:16 I can answer it but I need some clarification Aug 22 20:23:25 ok is qemu-native busted? Aug 22 20:24:02 torpor: yes Aug 22 20:24:13 and I am waiting for my box to build it with proper fix Aug 22 20:24:23 ah ETA? Aug 22 20:25:24 torpor: hard to tell - its single core machine Aug 22 20:25:47 oh but you are building righ tnow before you commit, or? Aug 22 20:25:49 hi, I'm doing some crazy tests here and I'd like to build a complete static cross toolchain... I've tried to insert the EXTRA_OECONF += "--disable-share" in the cross.bbclass without success... is there any way to do that? Aug 22 20:26:42 vivijim: statically linked, no host lib dependencies? Aug 22 20:26:52 likewise: yes Aug 22 20:27:23 vivijim: hmm, never tried that. Do any of the buildroot/ptxdist/crosstool stuff do this? Aug 22 20:27:58 * * OE Bug 2589 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 22 20:27:59 * *  qemu-native sigsegvs on amd64 while generating glibc locales Aug 22 20:28:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2589 Aug 22 20:28:43 likewise: hmm I don't know... my idea is to have a toolchain i386 running inside my arm chroot to make faster the compilation inside the chroot Aug 22 20:28:59 vivijim: obviously it wont work because there is a typo there Aug 22 20:29:04 so I'm starting to investigate how to do that Aug 22 20:29:10 vivijim: "--disable-shared" Aug 22 20:29:23 notice the missing d Aug 22 20:29:38 NOTE: package qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613-r5: task do_build: completed Aug 22 20:29:47 hrw: cool.. :) Aug 22 20:30:38 stefan_schmidt: what is wrong with PHP? Aug 22 20:30:49 everything! Aug 22 20:30:55 khem: uhm sorry.. my last test was to let it wrong to see if do_configure would break Aug 22 20:31:24 vivijim: ok Aug 22 20:31:42 Hi all, I need help building an xterminal-image for angstrom (akita). Aug 22 20:32:02 dothedog: use angstrom-x11-image instead Aug 22 20:32:22 khem: and it didn't break... so I believe that for some reason this extra flag are not being passed to the oe_runconf :( Aug 22 20:32:24 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r27baa018... 10/ (1 packages/qemu/qemu-native_20070613.bb): qemu-native: thanks, hrw, but please, pick up my gcc3 too! ;-) Aug 22 20:32:29 I need something that is super lightweight with X11. x11-image uses too much memory. Aug 22 20:32:47 koen: I need about 25MB free... Aug 22 20:33:04 vivijim: yeah I would suggest to modify the recipes Aug 22 20:33:10 individually Aug 22 20:33:39 zecke: Nothing, if you like to make sure everybody can update your site like a wiki. ;) Aug 22 20:33:50 khem: uhm... I'll try that... Aug 22 20:34:43 stefan_schmidt, that's the last thing that is wrong with php. Aug 22 20:34:45 pushing and pushing.... Aug 22 20:34:54 pushed Aug 22 20:34:58 * hrw -> slep Aug 22 20:35:03 great Aug 22 20:35:07 hrw, sleep well Aug 22 20:35:10 let someone close 2831 Aug 22 20:35:17 after check Aug 22 20:35:32 * polyonymous_ can't check what didn't break for him. Aug 22 20:36:48 polyonymous_: Perhaps you are right. But I'm not here to discuss script languages for websites. :) Aug 22 20:37:09 stefan_schmidt, I wouldn't claim that's exactly what brought me here either ;-) Aug 22 20:37:30 polyonymous_: :) Aug 22 20:38:20 koen: I've tried the xterminal-image.bb but it won't boot into X... Aug 22 20:40:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra61caf64... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): qemu: remove stripping during do_stage - close #2831 Aug 22 20:41:44 anyone happen to know VFP applies to the soft float as used in EABI ARM toolchains built with OE? Aug 22 20:42:07 made a little progress today on the mono ARM floating point issues, but still don't understand how everything fits together. Aug 22 20:44:45 hrw|gone: NOTE: package qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613: completed on AMD64 Aug 22 20:45:38 ~lart Qtopia Aug 22 20:45:38 * ibot squeezes Qtopia till Qtopia turns blue like papa smurf Aug 22 20:46:18 cbrake: what are the issues? Aug 22 20:46:58 * * OE Bug 2831 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by stefan(AT)datenfreihafen.org Aug 22 20:47:00 * * qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613-r4-do_populate_staging Aug 22 20:47:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 Aug 22 20:47:38 zecke: I thought you would love it after your gtk work ;) Aug 22 20:47:53 torpor: if I force ARM_FPU_NONE in the mono build, it seems to work fine Aug 22 20:48:15 torpor: for some reason, the configure script is detecting ARM_FPU_VFP Aug 22 20:48:17 stefan_schmidt: I know, I'm a moron, I always complain and nobody loves me, I will be completely naked in a couple of month because I keep giving my clothes away Aug 22 20:48:20 ARM FPU is an arcane science. Aug 22 20:48:29 and I'm more depressive than marvin Aug 22 20:48:41 zecke: heh, of course only to womens Aug 22 20:48:48 ARM_FPU_NONE can mean 'there is no FPU, but emulate one' and thus VFP is turned on Aug 22 20:48:54 zecke: That right. Go out and play a round pinball Aug 22 20:49:06 s/That/That's/ Aug 22 20:49:13 even the pinball has more luck with women :) Aug 22 20:49:18 torpor: nod, that just be what is happening Aug 22 20:49:42 torpor: I'll ask around a little more on the list ... Aug 22 20:49:48 i'm sorry i don't know more about the build environment yet cbrake .. its been about a year since i hacked on openembedded, and i'm just getting back into the swing of things with openmoko .. Aug 22 20:50:08 but i have had my fair share of FPU/ARM hassles in the last few years, believe me.. so i know what you're going through. Aug 22 20:50:13 torpor: great :-) Aug 22 20:51:04 torpor: it seems like the mono devs expect ARM_FPU_VFP is expected with EABI toolchains, so that is why I'm a bit puzzled. Aug 22 20:51:42 it can also happen that if you have one lib in a large list of libs that uses VFP, your compiler will link to VFP-using versions .. Aug 22 20:54:19 birunko: still awake? Aug 22 20:55:12 zecke, sure Aug 22 20:55:53 birunko: I always thought apple did donate the llvm backend. I always liked llvm and I assume we will have it in OE sooner or later Aug 22 20:57:03 do you have any interesting things to say about llvm? Aug 22 20:57:34 has the makdevs do_rootfs bug been fixed, anyone know? Aug 22 20:57:35 V Aug 22 20:58:22 zecke, Actually I don't know what is the real status of llvm, maybe lauro can tell you better... let me ask him to join the channel Aug 22 21:00:39 lauro: (05:56:01 PM) zecke: birunko: I always thought apple did donate the llvm backend. I always liked llvm and I assume we will have it in OE sooner or later Aug 22 21:00:39 (05:57:11 PM) zecke: do you have any interesting things to say about llvm? Aug 22 21:00:46 lauro, zecke was asking about llvm arm backend Aug 22 21:01:14 hi lauro, I have started reading the arm llvm backend and I wonder if you have any war stories, practical results :) Aug 22 21:01:23 okay the do_rootfs is still busted .. this time the mkdir /dev has been removed fro image.class .. and i'd like to fix this by making a patch to makedevs.c .. Aug 22 21:02:44 hi zecke, the INdt started the ARM backend development and later the Apple gave a strong contribution Aug 22 21:03:11 zecke: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/llwm.diff Aug 22 21:03:51 wm? Aug 22 21:04:03 zecke, I did a performance test: laurovenancio.wordpress.com Aug 22 21:04:32 koen: use the 4.2 branch of the frontend :) Aug 22 21:05:02 but i see now that add_new_directory has been added .. so the .txt files need to have "d /dev" and "d /bin" cmds added to them. Aug 22 21:06:18 the 4.2 branch isn't official yet Aug 22 21:06:55 ah okay Aug 22 21:06:56 Probably, It will be released in LLVM 2.2 Aug 22 21:07:54 lauro: The Arm target generates assembly code, but do you do any optimisation as well? The classic peephole e.g? Aug 22 21:13:37 zecke, the optimizations are done by the LLVM core Aug 22 21:21:45 bye Aug 22 21:23:20 I answered few Qs in FAQ Aug 22 21:23:22 http://www.openembedded.org/oefaq Aug 22 21:23:32 also added one question about eglibc Aug 22 21:23:51 why you name it oefaq when the domain already implies openembedde? Aug 22 21:23:53 +d Aug 22 21:24:20 TheCan: its just a page address Aug 22 21:24:43 OeFaq for WikiWord I guess Aug 22 21:25:48 zecke: anything I can help you with? Aug 22 21:49:56 good nite Aug 22 22:08:43 package libx11-native is the wrong version Aug 22 22:08:55 It's 1.0.1 and it should be 1.1.1 Aug 22 22:08:59 And it fails Aug 22 22:09:06 Someone please fix that :) Aug 22 22:25:41 torpor: I added the /dev entries Aug 22 22:26:02 RP: /dev d Aug 22 22:26:04 right? Aug 22 22:26:09 and /bin d too i think. Aug 22 22:41:38 hey ppl Aug 22 22:54:00 torpor: mtn up and you will see. I removed the /bin entries Aug 22 22:54:18 ok Aug 22 23:05:33 ~lart people who do not understand SCM;'s Aug 22 23:05:34 * ibot grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats people who do not understand SCM;'s until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with Aug 22 23:09:51 ~lart crofton for ~larting people who don't understand SCM and don't use it ;-) Aug 22 23:09:51 * ibot takes a big bite out of crofton's jugular vein for ~larting people who don't understand SCM and don't use it ;-) Aug 22 23:10:12 heh Aug 22 23:10:20 :) Aug 22 23:10:37 I just came out of a meeting where someone proposed using subversion to do work in parallel brnaches Aug 22 23:11:09 heh, that's, although possible, isn't much fun. Aug 22 23:11:20 Not that it's not possible without scm at all ;) Aug 22 23:12:15 but you know, this suggestion comes out quite natural from someone unfamiliar with other concepts, but knowing what subversion is. Aug 22 23:13:28 just in case anyone other than zecke was interested: http://oe.reversefold.com/bitbake-freeze.patch Aug 22 23:46:49 I'd like to build a basic image with apache on it to flashh to a CF card, how is the best way to do this with OE ? Aug 23 00:08:18 cool, i seem to have managed it :-) Aug 23 02:06:59 03daniel 07org.oe.dev * r19e41ed2... 10/ (1 packages/uboot/uboot-openmoko_svn.bb): uboot-openmoko_svn.bb: Use temporary stable patch branch for pinned u-boot revision Aug 23 02:23:35 Crofton, you around? Aug 23 02:24:00 barely Aug 23 02:24:13 asmola, pong Aug 23 02:24:21 I just thought that I would let you know that with adding the requires iwmmxt Aug 23 02:24:34 ? Aug 23 02:24:41 I;m not follwoing the sentance Aug 23 02:24:47 and I type bad Aug 23 02:24:51 I'm sorry. In the gumstix.conf Aug 23 02:25:05 ah Aug 23 02:25:14 patch for mmx thingy? Aug 23 02:25:20 yeah Aug 23 02:25:32 I swapped the standard tune-xscale for the tune-iwmmxt Aug 23 02:25:35 I thought you were talking about a window manager :) Aug 23 02:25:38 ah Aug 23 02:25:52 can you add that to your bug? Aug 23 02:26:00 in gory detail Aug 23 02:26:07 yeah , i will add some details in the morning, but that didn't force the kernel to include the iwmmxt Aug 23 02:26:12 so we have a coprocessor interface Aug 23 02:26:33 Steve had some good info from teh gumstix list Aug 23 02:26:42 I'll have to check on there again. Aug 23 02:26:46 yeah Aug 23 02:26:57 some insite about where they are going with kernels Aug 23 02:27:03 ahhh Aug 23 02:27:15 he has a low end board Aug 23 02:27:30 apparently, what we buidl won't boot on it Aug 23 02:28:05 yeah, although he thinks that by switching out to the newer uboot and partioning scheme that it should fix it (I'm on the same page as him) Aug 23 02:29:35 the wmmx patch built without any problems, but the filesysem image wouldnt boot (presumably because it needed the wmmx kernel because something was making a call to the co-proc) Aug 23 02:30:13 changing the tuning stuff may require rebuilding loads of stuff Aug 23 02:30:41 one of the problems with sdr is the amount of crap you have to be able to process in your head Aug 23 02:32:21 i rebuilt everything from scratch Aug 23 02:32:36 :) Aug 23 02:32:40 urg Aug 23 02:33:01 did it say anything while trying to boot? Aug 23 02:33:34 yeah, it made up until it said 'freeing 132k memory' Aug 23 02:33:58 I think that is very close to where it calls init Aug 23 02:35:09 im checking exactly Aug 23 02:36:54 what's the text paste site? Aug 23 02:37:00 ~pastebin Aug 23 02:37:01 methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well Aug 23 02:37:45 http://rafb.net/p/kJgcQy96.html Aug 23 02:38:19 This is from the OSK Aug 23 02:38:25 it's right before init is where it's dying Aug 23 02:38:48 Does the mount succeed? Aug 23 02:38:52 yes Aug 23 02:39:12 you get the freeing ..., but not the line when init starts Aug 23 02:39:23 exactly Aug 23 02:39:38 http://pastebin.com/d5ac39232 Aug 23 02:39:59 so init never gets going Aug 23 02:40:15 the line INIT: version 2.86 booting Aug 23 02:40:33 is from /bin/init or whatever it start on the file system Aug 23 02:40:48 you rebuitl kernel, and filesystem iage Aug 23 02:40:54 and flashed both? Aug 23 02:40:56 i see, yes rebuilt both from scratch Aug 23 02:41:00 correct Aug 23 02:41:06 and flashed matching pair? Aug 23 02:41:24 * Crofton|home needs a gumstix .... Aug 23 02:41:35 yes i flashed the pair Aug 23 02:41:52 It's late Aug 23 02:41:56 well for me :) Aug 23 02:41:57 my (uneducated) gut feeling is that it's trying to do something that depends on the iwmmx but since the kernel doesn't have it Aug 23 02:41:59 it dies Aug 23 02:42:00 * Crofton|home is old Aug 23 02:42:06 rofl Aug 23 02:42:10 yeah i'm beat Aug 23 02:42:21 I don't believe init would call anything depending on the coprocessor Aug 23 02:42:30 hmm Aug 23 02:42:46 I would also expect the kernel to cough up hairballs if you did Aug 23 02:42:54 but Aug 23 02:43:01 it does not panic Aug 23 02:43:08 with can't find init Aug 23 02:43:10 since i don't really know what i am doing i am willing to try things that don't make much sense, but I am going to try and load the gumstix 2.6.21 kernel with iwmmx support Aug 23 02:43:16 and leave the angstrom image there Aug 23 02:43:18 and see what happens Aug 23 02:43:21 yeah Aug 23 02:43:30 worse thing that will happen is you get weird erros Aug 23 02:43:37 modules not found etc Aug 23 02:43:39 that's the way i feel Aug 23 02:43:39 but Aug 23 02:43:54 it shoudl find init and do something, or panic if it does not find init Aug 23 02:44:11 rm init from the file system and see what it does :) Aug 23 02:44:12 ok Aug 23 02:44:16 I need to go Aug 23 02:44:21 good night Aug 23 02:44:22 alright, goodnight crofton **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 23 02:59:57 2007