**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 31 02:59:56 2007 Aug 31 05:22:21 Hmm, how do I restore the original Linux on a SL-C3200? I have installed Angstrom yesterday and played with it, but have to return it today and I need to restore the original UI. I have a 64Mb ROM image, what to do with it? Aug 31 05:39:55 . Aug 31 05:57:06 Hi OE team, how is it going on with the staged package feature? Aug 31 06:00:55 What's the status? I implemented this feature personally, do you interest in it? Aug 31 06:11:17 O_Neil: I would suggest to wait about 3 or 4 hours and talk to koen when he wakes up Aug 31 06:13:32 OK Aug 31 06:14:18 koen: ping Aug 31 06:28:36 good morning all Aug 31 06:33:57 * * OE Bug 2899 has been created by dan.j.williams(AT)intel.com Aug 31 06:33:59 * * Fixup autotools.bbclass for samba-3.0.25c Aug 31 06:34:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2899 Aug 31 06:43:57 * * OE Bug 2900 has been created by dan.j.williams(AT)intel.com Aug 31 06:43:59 * * samba-3.0.25c support Aug 31 06:44:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2900 Aug 31 06:47:24 Strange, my Zaurus boots up to the "Sharp" logo and then says "HD error!" and that's all Aug 31 06:47:51 what can I do at this point? It seems I have access to command-line since 'poweroff' works, but it's 1-line height only Aug 31 06:49:33 [D]+[B] doesn't work too Aug 31 07:09:13 zap: only few people here as zaurus pda Aug 31 07:09:38 zap: better ask on openzaurus/angstrom/cacko/zaurus channels of look into oesf forums Aug 31 07:11:41 aha, thank you. Sorry I used the wrong channel Aug 31 07:26:14 hi mickey|zzZZzz Aug 31 07:27:40 O_Neil: you can also write mail to OE ML Aug 31 07:30:53 hi greentux Aug 31 07:31:22 hi hrw Aug 31 07:33:18 koen: arm crunch patchset is probably broken Aug 31 07:33:36 morning guys Aug 31 07:34:09 mickey|MDD07: how goes mdd? Aug 31 07:42:42 cool. first session right now. listening to Vladi from TT Aug 31 07:42:49 after him, Stefan will talk about OpenEZX Aug 31 07:42:51 and then me Aug 31 07:44:15 you about openmoko? Aug 31 07:46:41 mickey|MDD07: Do they record videos of the talks? Aug 31 07:59:17 CM: unfortunately not. it is a tiny conference Aug 31 07:59:25 hrw: yes, talking about openmoko in a few Aug 31 07:59:35 Ok, too bad Aug 31 08:01:05 well, not mentioning anything new today anyways ;) Aug 31 08:01:21 real news come in next presentation in Zurich Aug 31 08:01:31 When is that? Aug 31 08:01:41 19.-20. September Aug 31 08:01:55 Ok, thanks :) Aug 31 08:02:08 n Aug 31 08:02:09 p Aug 31 08:05:32 mickey|MDD07: when you will announce openmoko OE maintainer? Aug 31 08:06:09 mid / late september Aug 31 08:06:26 so in a couple of weeks Aug 31 08:06:44 bbiab, need to talk in a bit Aug 31 08:07:20 I'm looking forward to that. openmoko-image has been almost impossible to build lately Aug 31 08:07:43 morning Aug 31 08:11:46 CM: fails on gtk? Aug 31 08:12:05 hrw: No, kernel right now Aug 31 08:12:18 CM: pastebin log please Aug 31 08:13:32 hrw: http://rafb.net/p/JIEaUy45.html Aug 31 08:14:00 It's not just me, rwhitby, yness, ScaredyCat.. All get the same error Aug 31 08:14:29 its those patches koen added to gcc, they are bolloxed Aug 31 08:14:52 Yes, seems to be something with gcc Aug 31 08:15:08 revert, revert, revert, ... Aug 31 08:15:49 or were they glibc, but the FPU ones Aug 31 08:17:19 * hrw is disapproving it Aug 31 08:18:07 XorA: gcc ones Aug 31 08:18:29 althpugh I cant see where they are pulled in Aug 31 08:19:41 NOTE: Applying patch 'arm-crunch-cirrus-bugfixes.patch' Aug 31 08:19:41 NOTE: Applying patch 'zecke-no-host-includes.patch' Aug 31 08:19:41 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.2-r5: task do_patch: completed Aug 31 08:25:31 hi zecke Aug 31 08:30:30 ah, stupid me, I had a gcc before crunching :-) Aug 31 08:32:12 lucky you Aug 31 08:32:21 hrw: you will have to dissaprove it then push a r6 PR bump Aug 31 08:33:05 I did Aug 31 08:34:22 hrw: I see it, musta missed it by seconds in first sync :-) Aug 31 08:35:33 brb Aug 31 08:37:17 CM: update and try again Aug 31 08:55:48 argh.. neo has to be connected to host not hub to dfu ;( Aug 31 08:56:36 hrw: yes Aug 31 08:57:35 I am out of host ports ;( Aug 31 08:58:09 remind me never to install resolvconf again Aug 31 08:58:11 good morning Aug 31 08:58:16 hi florian Aug 31 09:00:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd7c8a05b... 10/ (50 files in 3 dirs): disapproval of revision '4fb1a7447c5d8ace96a5ac6358c7fe10f0d951c4' Aug 31 09:00:42 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2a756f49... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross_4.1.2.bb packages/gcc/gcc_4.1.2.bb): gcc/gcc-cross 4.1.2: bump PR to build working compiler after broken ARM Crunch Aug 31 09:15:45 hrw: Thanks, that did it. package linux-gta01-2.6.22.5: completed Aug 31 09:17:37 np Aug 31 09:18:58 hi lrg Aug 31 09:20:18 hey florian Aug 31 09:26:30 ~fish lrg Aug 31 09:26:31 * ibot slaps lrg around with a large trout Aug 31 09:37:31 ~lart linux-gta01 Aug 31 09:37:31 * ibot chops linux-gta01 in half with a free AOL CD Aug 31 09:38:14 heh Aug 31 09:38:18 ~lart hrw Aug 31 09:38:18 * ibot breaks out the Hoover and sucks up hrw Aug 31 09:38:23 don't you chop our kernel :D Aug 31 09:39:12 mickey|MDD07: it has wrong deps Aug 31 09:39:30 quilt-native is build always so no need for it in recipe Aug 31 09:39:35 mickey|MDD07: hey Aug 31 09:39:53 uboot-openmoko is not needed to build linux-gta01. u-boot-mkimage-openmoko-native is enough Aug 31 09:40:17 hi zecke ! Aug 31 09:40:35 hrw: let me fix it. have some other change as well Aug 31 09:41:09 don't lart because of historic cruft Aug 31 09:41:14 mickey|MDD07: and let it fetch linux-2.6.22.tar.bz2 and stable patches to it Aug 31 09:41:16 this dependency comes from the days where we used patcher a lot Aug 31 09:41:28 hrw: no time for that now Aug 31 09:41:38 in october we have our dedicated guy :) Aug 31 09:41:45 mickey|MDD07: each time you (openmoko) change stable to stable each dev has to fetch 40M archive instead of 40K patc Aug 31 09:41:48 h Aug 31 09:41:49 hey mickey|MDD07 Aug 31 09:41:54 hi XorA Aug 31 09:42:07 * XorA gets the popcorn for the OE smackdown Aug 31 09:42:17 XorA: haha Aug 31 09:42:39 mickey|MDD07: any crime you commit is low compared to koens today anyway :-) Aug 31 09:42:50 what's he doing? Aug 31 09:43:02 mickey|MDD07: broke gcc :-) Aug 31 09:43:08 he broke ARM toolchain Aug 31 09:43:41 argh Aug 31 09:43:49 anyone fixed it already>? Aug 31 09:43:52 already reverted Aug 31 09:43:57 mickey|MDD07: yes, hrw disapproved Aug 31 09:44:01 thanks hrw Aug 31 09:44:10 guess he was too busy with blaming me for sometimes forgetting --author Aug 31 09:44:14 grmbl Aug 31 09:45:26 mickey|MDD07: BTW midori, I can launch from ssh, segfaults if I launch from rxvt, seen anything like that? Aug 31 09:46:12 oh strange Aug 31 09:46:18 didn't try from rxvt. will do Aug 31 09:46:31 env changes Aug 31 09:47:55 likely, ya Aug 31 09:48:53 mickey|MDD07: is ok, Ill investigate sometime, just wondered if you had seen it Aug 31 09:49:16 sweet browser though Aug 31 09:49:26 yeay Aug 31 09:49:31 zecke's will outperform that though Aug 31 09:49:36 * mickey|MDD07 eyes zecke Aug 31 09:49:59 * zecke will use midori and use red buttons ;) Aug 31 09:50:15 zecke: speed it up old man :-D Aug 31 09:53:37 hehehe Aug 31 10:00:13 ~hail koen for his good Blackfin work. Aug 31 10:00:14 * ibot bows down to koen for his good Blackfin work. and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 31 10:05:20 ~lart 2.6.22.65 archive fetching Aug 31 10:05:21 * ibot squeezes 2.6.22.65 archive fetching till 2.6.22.65 archive fetching turns blue like papa smurf Aug 31 10:12:55 someone remember when OE switch to SRCREV? Aug 31 10:15:30 hrw: 04092007 Aug 31 10:15:50 ok Aug 31 10:15:58 ~hail SRCREV Aug 31 10:15:58 * ibot bows down to SRCREV and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 31 10:16:14 * stefan|mdd is really looking forward to it. :) Aug 31 10:16:46 stefan|mdd: ;D Aug 31 10:16:58 stefan|mdd: you have microsdhc card? Aug 31 10:17:17 hrw: yeah, works great. :) Aug 31 10:17:38 stefan|mdd: can you check does it works in pxa machine with 2.6? Aug 31 10:18:19 as zaurus users are asking from time to time and I have no idea how to respond ;) Aug 31 10:18:26 hrw: Will test it on one of my EZX phones, but I fear not in the next week Aug 31 10:18:49 hrw: I add it to my TODO list, perhaps I can find time for it sooner. Aug 31 10:18:59 thx Aug 31 10:20:11 * XorA should get some SDHC cards for testing Aug 31 10:37:53 * koen returns from work Aug 31 10:38:00 sorry about breaking gcc 4.1.2 Aug 31 10:38:52 at least you knew it was me by looking at the author cert :) Aug 31 10:38:58 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd95b16d3... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-gta01: make it compatible w/ gta02, adjust DEPENDS Aug 31 10:39:03 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r177c90ad... 10/ (1 conf/machine/fic-gta02.conf): linux-gta01: use linux-gta02 as kernel Aug 31 10:39:10 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1da9580d... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-gta01.inc): linux-gta01: use gta01 defconfig for gta02 Aug 31 10:39:17 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r735f3c43... 10/ (13 files in 4 dirs): Aug 31 10:39:17 rename linux-gta01 to linux-openmoko, this kernel will be useful on a family of devices, Aug 31 10:39:17 GTA01, GTA02 being the first two models. Aug 31 10:47:28 hmm.. new work to do then Aug 31 10:49:01 at we can stop complaining about linux-gta01 :) Aug 31 10:49:52 mickey|MDD07: will you or your mistic new maintainer complain much if do_prepatch will be changed to do_postpatch? Aug 31 10:50:19 and using linux-2.6.00 + minor patch? Aug 31 10:50:29 s/00/foo/ Aug 31 10:50:34 koen: exactly Aug 31 10:50:38 hi mallum Aug 31 10:50:43 re Aug 31 10:50:51 hey bearded super hero from london Aug 31 10:51:04 hey hrw :-) Aug 31 10:51:13 hey koen ;-) Aug 31 10:52:26 hehe Aug 31 10:56:27 rootfs_deb almost works in OE Aug 31 10:56:36 koen: cool! Aug 31 10:56:40 it needs some small tweaks from poky Aug 31 10:56:53 koen: what host distro are you running? Aug 31 10:57:11 my problem was (apart from some others), that it also did not work because I had a non-deb system Aug 31 10:57:11 ubuntu one, debian on another Aug 31 10:57:20 it seemed to reuse some of the host deb stuff Aug 31 10:57:41 zecke: I heard you may be going to the CELF conference in Linz? Aug 31 10:58:01 Jin^eLD: it depends. Aug 31 10:58:32 well, let me know if you go, would be nice to have a chat or something Aug 31 10:58:43 I live in vienna so I will for sure be there Aug 31 11:15:35 hmm, I tried to abort bitbake using ctrl-c and somehow I am back in the shell but wget seems to be still working in the background, writing over my terminal Aug 31 11:15:36 :) Aug 31 11:15:55 that does not seem right somehow? Aug 31 11:31:28 In case someone is bored: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-August/002929.html Aug 31 11:36:23 good afternoon all Aug 31 11:38:20 I have a problem with the bzImage I built with bitbake. It can't load its root file system .. Aug 31 11:39:12 I have checked the defconfig, but it seems that all required options are set to 'y'. Aug 31 11:39:58 A kernel that I built two month ago with oe works. And its 1.4 MB instead of 1.2 MB for the new one. Aug 31 11:40:41 Any idea what I might be missing here ? Aug 31 11:41:01 jan_js: sl-a300? Aug 31 11:42:37 hrw: i586, a amd geode board .. Aug 31 11:43:03 jan_js: which OE machine it is? Aug 31 11:43:45 hrw: generic x86, modified slightly Aug 31 11:46:04 hrw: sorry, i586-generic, not x86. Aug 31 11:47:03 hrw: I am using grub, which works fine with the older kernel. Aug 31 11:48:28 re Aug 31 11:48:51 jan_js: which board you have? Aug 31 11:50:48 d/win 1 Aug 31 11:50:49 fsck.. my desktop machine has connections for 4 usb ports on board (via pins). Aug 31 11:50:56 and 3 of them do not work ;( Aug 31 11:51:34 Jin^eLD: kill %1 Aug 31 11:52:53 reboot. Aug 31 11:54:47 hrw: It's a advantech-pcm-3353F Aug 31 11:55:49 It has a CF slot, from where I boot the system Aug 31 12:02:16 jan_js: I use alix1c board - geode lx800 Aug 31 12:02:57 hrw: so what OE machine do you use - i586 ? Aug 31 12:03:27 jan_js: alix Aug 31 12:03:57 jan_js: but it is now i686 and will be switched to 'geode' which gets k6-2 gcc optimizations Aug 31 12:05:04 hrw: My CPU is a geode gx-mmx - maybee similar ? Aug 31 12:05:39 gx is older geode Aug 31 12:06:04 geode gx is based on cyrix MediaGX, then geodeLX was born Aug 31 12:08:13 hrw: So I might better stick to i586 then. I see in the alix machine conf that it uses "linux" as the kernel instead of linux-x86 as I do. Aug 31 12:08:34 I will check for the differences, I think, especially in the defconf. Aug 31 12:11:01 jan_js: one day I will merge linux-x86 kernels into linux one Aug 31 12:12:14 hrw: whats the difference right now ? Aug 31 12:14:52 name only rather Aug 31 12:21:16 jan_js: and version - linux-x86 is 2.6.20, linux is 2.6.21/22/23-rc3 Aug 31 12:25:37 torpor: well, I was kind of wondering why bitbake did not clean up the dl processes when exiting, that was the main question I guess Aug 31 12:29:34 Jin^eLD: ? Aug 31 12:40:19 yes? Aug 31 12:40:39 "wondering why bitbake did not clean up the dl processes when exiting"? Aug 31 12:40:57 oh.. you mean my talk with torpor? well I started a build, pressed ctrl-c, and bitbake seemed to have quit but wget was stil running Aug 31 12:41:22 torpor suggested to kill %1 but I asked not because of not knowing hot to kill it but mostly wondering why bitbake did not take care of it when exiting Aug 31 12:41:22 multihtreaded bitbake forks of new shells for stuff Aug 31 12:49:20 hmm Aug 31 12:49:22 NOTE: package u-boot-git-r1: task do_fetch: failed Aug 31 12:49:42 fresh pull && update, trying Crofton's davinci image, angstrom Aug 31 12:51:19 somebody should teach apt some funny response to "*u-boot-git*do_fetch*failed" :) Aug 31 12:52:30 Jin^eLD: the denx git repo is being down Aug 31 12:52:39 probably upgrading uboot on the server ;) Aug 31 12:52:42 doh.. :( Aug 31 12:52:43 hehe Aug 31 12:53:12 ~lart uboot-git fetching Aug 31 12:53:13 * ibot pulls out his louisville slugger and uses uboot-git fetching's head to break the homerun record Aug 31 12:54:47 that crunch patches are those mentioned by martin guy? Aug 31 12:54:52 ^koen Aug 31 12:57:50 ynezz: yes, and you need gcc 4.2.1 for it Aug 31 12:58:00 since they break 4.1.2 for non-trivial apps Aug 31 12:58:52 * koen does a build from scratch with the merged classes Aug 31 13:04:30 poky ones? Aug 31 13:05:17 yes Aug 31 13:05:21 the ones I sent to the list Aug 31 13:05:29 * koen hugs meld Aug 31 13:17:26 hrw:what was the gcc-cross fix you put in? I was making a new build last night and it was on the gcc-cross build all night and still on it when I got in. would that have anything to do with it? Aug 31 13:17:36 hrw: that is, I got it before your change Aug 31 13:20:17 christopher: gcc 4.1.2-r6 is current one Aug 31 13:22:35 hrw: so, only to update, not to address/fix Aug 31 13:23:12 hrw: I restarted a build and enabled debug output so I can be sure it is still running and compiling. this is on a new machine that should go through compiles fast so that was why I was suprised with a build taking overnight. Aug 31 13:23:19 and still on the same thing Aug 31 13:27:28 in -r5 were applied some patches which broken arm builds, so -r6 address this issue -- removed those offending patches Aug 31 13:29:09 and I think, that itsn't cause of your neverending build :) Aug 31 13:30:56 ynezz: yeah, didn't think so. :( I was at r4 so I didn't have those patches. Aug 31 13:31:21 ynezz: I have on the parallel make and this is a dual core but guess it is no match for these builds. Aug 31 13:32:10 i'm running 10 threads in parallel make on dual core T7100 Aug 31 13:32:35 no problems so far Aug 31 13:32:47 ynezz: and how long does an image build take? is there a way to pass off more to both or will that happen automatically? Aug 31 13:33:17 i don't measure it, but it's fast enough for me Aug 31 13:34:50 angstrom-minimal-image under 30min or so Aug 31 13:34:58 * * OE Bug 2901 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 31 13:35:00 * * expect-5.44.1-r0-do_configure Aug 31 13:35:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2901 Aug 31 13:35:04 ok. fair enough. On the old machine, it would have certainly been done overnight and that's why I am concerned. oh geez, under 30 minutes? Aug 31 13:35:25 as i said and don't know exactly :) Aug 31 13:35:37 but it's not noticeable as openmoko-image Aug 31 13:35:51 s/and/I/ Aug 31 13:35:58 * * OE Bug 2902 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 31 13:35:59 * * expect-5.44.1-r0-do_install Aug 31 13:36:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2902 Aug 31 13:36:50 ynezz: ok, I'll kick off a new build and see how long it takes. Aug 31 13:36:57 * * OE Bug 2901 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by Aug 31 13:36:59 * * expect-5.44.1-r0-do_configure Aug 31 13:37:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2901 Aug 31 13:37:43 christopher: what are you trying to build? Aug 31 13:39:56 ynezz: I was building angstrom-console-image to try and get back to a working console. I had one working two days ago and luckily kept an older one around to proove it. when I build now, I get the no console found error Aug 31 13:40:22 ynezz: so, I got a new computer and have been setting it up for builds on it (as opposed to the old one) so I can verify builds etc. Aug 31 13:40:42 ynezz: just using angstrom and a sarge-at91 machine since it uses the same proc Aug 31 13:41:54 christopher: good to know that sarge config is usable for someone ;) Aug 31 13:42:18 hrw: didn't you add it in there ? Aug 31 13:42:24 christopher: I did Aug 31 13:42:41 hrw: yeah, I thought I remembered that right. figured I'd go with something that 'worked' Aug 31 13:43:14 hrw: although I am getting a little frustrated because I am not sure how to configure the kernel with oe (may have to patch in the oe kernel)... Aug 31 13:43:35 with it not loading any of the modules.dep / creating it and with it not running other things that are supposed to be done as postinsts... Aug 31 13:43:48 I just don't know what I am doing wrong since I am using the code everyone else is straight from OE. Aug 31 13:44:38 with buildroot, the *1* good thing I can say is that I could take a look at the rootfs that it built and everything was there so I could tell if something was ok or not. I'm just not used to it running all of those scripts at startup. Aug 31 13:44:57 * * OE Bug 2902 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by Aug 31 13:44:59 * * expect-5.44.1-r0-do_install Aug 31 13:45:00 and am concerned about boot-up time anyway so those add another 10-15 seconds which is not so good Aug 31 13:45:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2902 Aug 31 13:45:35 christopher: add your machine into OE and generate config for it. that will resolve first problem. Aug 31 13:46:45 hrw: meaning the kernel .config ? or the kernel itself with my changes? Aug 31 13:48:35 config + eventual patches Aug 31 13:49:40 hrw: ok. i do have the patch. it is enough to just add it as a file:// and it will know to patch it? I think I saw that in a bb file Aug 31 13:50:05 hrw: same with .config? do I just make that into a defconfig as others have done? like for busybox etc Aug 31 13:50:29 hrw: I'd like to have more options enabled like command history etc for busybox, so that's one thing I'll want to change on mine Aug 31 13:51:12 christopher: look how sarge-at91 patches are handled in kernel recipe and follow it Aug 31 13:51:22 hrw: ok. I'll follow those along Aug 31 13:51:25 for busybox it is other thing Aug 31 13:51:28 ~hail linux.inc Aug 31 13:51:29 * ibot bows down to linux.inc and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 31 13:51:43 * hrw just generated modules.dep on host for target device Aug 31 13:52:17 more nokia FUD about community software: http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2007/08/summer-teasers.html Aug 31 13:52:25 no wonder hildon is such a POS Aug 31 13:52:36 morning Aug 31 13:53:05 hey chouimat Aug 31 13:53:42 ../cross/bin/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-depmod-2.6 -a -b /home/hrw/devel/OH/poky/build/tmp-poky/rootfs/ -F ../staging/fic-gta01-poky-linux-gnueabi/kernel/System.map-2.6.21.6-moko11 2.6.21.6-moko11 Aug 31 13:55:32 koen: come on Aug 31 13:56:21 koen: the Fear part comes from the Neo being almost all the n800 is, but with capability to phone as well Aug 31 13:56:35 koen: so if it succeeds it proves Nokias analysts wrong Aug 31 13:56:47 yes Aug 31 13:57:00 and nokia is almost certainly doing a linux phone Aug 31 13:57:18 that become evident with Jaksis speach as GUADEC Aug 31 13:57:34 N95 + linux?? Aug 31 13:57:44 bah nokia Aug 31 14:04:03 XorA: there were rumours about n95 linux Aug 31 14:04:37 hrw: its the most obvious path Aug 31 14:05:01 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mranostay/openembedded/tmp/work/centrality-linux-gnueabi/linux-omap-2.6-2.6.9-omap1-r0/linux-2.6.9' Aug 31 14:05:01 CC scripts/mod/empty.o Aug 31 14:05:01 cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mapcs-32" Aug 31 14:05:01 cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mshort-load-bytes" Aug 31 14:05:12 Anyone have any clue on this? Aug 31 14:05:17 2.6.9!?!?!?!? Aug 31 14:05:20 Oh and hi all :) Aug 31 14:05:27 that's like 2 years old Aug 31 14:05:44 koen: I know the openmoko-image picked that for some reason Aug 31 14:05:48 mranostay_work: switch to 2.6.2x please Aug 31 14:05:55 mranostay_work: which machhine you build for? Aug 31 14:06:25 centrality Aug 31 14:06:54 which lack kernel in OE? Aug 31 14:07:52 no it built linux-2.6.21 Aug 31 14:08:13 christopher: I do not know why you have problem with modules.dep - all my images here have them generated during creating Aug 31 14:10:07 koen: last year I had to "service" a server .... they were still running linux 1.2 on it :( Aug 31 14:10:37 chouimat: wow your kidding right? Aug 31 14:11:06 no Aug 31 14:11:27 mranostay_work: and another one was running freebsd 2.1/2,.2 Aug 31 14:11:28 that is what like ~10+ years old? Aug 31 14:11:29 in some areas linux 2.0.X was more featureful than 2.6 Aug 31 14:12:04 mranostay_work: close to 13 Aug 31 14:12:20 if it works, dont fix it way Aug 31 14:12:41 and the script kiddiez cant hack it if its not 0day Aug 31 14:12:50 hehe I was in second grade then :) Aug 31 14:13:03 true ... and to get the apps running on those working on something more modern will require a complete rewrite Aug 31 14:16:02 NOTE: package libgsmd-0.1+svn20070831-r22: task do_install: started Aug 31 14:16:04 ERROR: function do_install failed Aug 31 14:18:35 hi Cliff Aug 31 14:19:32 hrw: yeah, Ido have that. so, when you look in lib/modules under the rootfs, you see modules.dep ? Aug 31 14:19:46 yes Aug 31 14:19:55 christopher: as long image contain any modules Aug 31 14:20:58 hrw: well, that may be an issue. In my kernel, I don't have modules and I think I copied over my config to oe because the image wouldn't build due to lack of machine definition. Aug 31 14:21:26 hrw: since oe depends on modules, is there any way to have it...not depend on modules and have them simply built into the kernel? Aug 31 14:23:13 hrw: In other words, if I incorporate my kernel in oe, it will have my config (no modules), but then things built with oe are trying to load modules.dep but I don't know what modules they are trying to load Aug 31 14:24:48 christopher: during start of OE generated images there is step when modules are loaded. if there are no modules then it is still ok Aug 31 14:25:58 hmm Aug 31 14:26:09 with the latest .dev qt no longer compiles Aug 31 14:26:13 this worked yesterday Aug 31 14:26:22 mickeyl: compiles or stage? Aug 31 14:26:29 compiles Aug 31 14:26:30 mickeyl: and how it breaks? Aug 31 14:26:31 3.0/config.tests/unix/compile.test: line 54: 25682 Illegal instruction Aug 31 14:26:41 mickeyl: gcc 4.1.2-r6? Aug 31 14:27:02 hrw: well, I guess it depends on what you mean by ok. there are programs that won't load because it can't find modules.dep Aug 31 14:27:08 christopher: we prefer to have modules as then kernels are smaller so they boot faster Aug 31 14:27:20 hrw: yes, 4.1.2-r6 Aug 31 14:27:30 what kind of changes did we have? Aug 31 14:27:42 mickeyl: NOTE: package qt4-x11-free-4.3.0-r6: task do_compile: started Aug 31 14:27:47 anyone been working on libgsmd today? Aug 31 14:27:58 mickeyl: r6 == r4 Aug 31 14:28:07 well, it breaks in configure here Aug 31 14:28:13 hmm, strange Aug 31 14:28:17 *sigh* Aug 31 14:28:52 mickeyl: will openmoko provide any external toolchain? Aug 31 14:28:59 sure Aug 31 14:29:37 this would lower amount of problems which devs have Aug 31 14:29:40 hmm, somehow the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel in my machine conf is ignored; trying to build angstrom, -DDD does show that the correct confs are being parsed Aug 31 14:29:46 any hints on why this could be happening Aug 31 14:29:47 ? Aug 31 14:30:08 Jin^eLD: oe kernel recipe or own? Aug 31 14:30:12 own Aug 31 14:30:26 Jin^eLD: COMPATIBLE_* flags checked? Aug 31 14:30:38 hrw: what's the status of toolchain packages in OE ? Aug 31 14:30:42 well the thing is, it works for me here, I replicated that on a slightly older host distro on my collegues PC Aug 31 14:30:52 for me it works, for him it does not, allthough he is using my setup and same bitbake version Aug 31 14:31:07 mickeyl: meta-toolchain should work. for openmoko you need to extend it with more libs Aug 31 14:32:01 I'm merging in poky bbclasses so we can use their toolchain stuff Aug 31 14:32:07 see RFC on oe-devel Aug 31 14:32:28 our toolchains works :D Aug 31 14:32:59 hrw: I think the problem is that the collection is being ignored... but with same bitbake version.. hmm, that should be ok I guess? Aug 31 14:33:42 I do not use collections so hard to tell Aug 31 14:33:49 ~hail screen -x Aug 31 14:33:50 mhm Aug 31 14:33:50 * ibot bows down to screen -x and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 31 14:34:25 hmm Aug 31 14:35:13 * hrw -> lunch finally Aug 31 14:37:05 ~hail Linus Torvalds Aug 31 14:37:06 * ibot bows down to Linus Torvalds and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 31 14:39:50 how can i force bitbake to use a different kernel .bb? Aug 31 14:48:32 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel "" Aug 31 14:51:13 mickeyl: I'd just RTFM, thanks :) Aug 31 15:32:57 * * OE Bug 2903 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 31 15:32:59 * * claws-plugin-maildir-0.24.4-r0-do_configure Aug 31 15:33:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2903 Aug 31 15:42:24 ~hail ibot Aug 31 15:42:25 * ibot bows down to ibot and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 31 15:47:42 r Aug 31 15:47:43 e Aug 31 15:47:57 * * OE Bug 2904 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Aug 31 15:47:59 * * Dependencies not matched installing openmoko stuff Aug 31 15:48:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2904 Aug 31 15:48:43 mickeyl: NOTE: package qt4-x11-free-4.3.0-r6: task do_package: completed Aug 31 15:49:22 on my x86_64 machine, qmake-native ends up w/ illegal statements when qt detects the machine as x86_64 Aug 31 15:49:27 with my uname hack it works again Aug 31 15:51:42 mickeyl: that is on x86 host Aug 31 16:04:58 is shasum-native-1.0 failing to build for anyone else? Aug 31 16:05:11 not here Aug 31 16:23:03 * mwester shouts a stream of obscenities as gcc rebuilds, and what what was supposed to be a simple update is not going to be an all-day rebuild. Aug 31 16:23:30 lart OE for not understanding the benefits of locking-down a toolchain. Aug 31 16:23:57 mwester: Locking down the toolchain is a distro decision Aug 31 16:24:59 RP: no - he is talking about PR bumping Aug 31 16:25:42