**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 22 02:59:56 2007 Sep 22 06:46:44 hi all !!! Sep 22 07:49:33 hi all, where i can find some kind of documentation about the angstrom-legacy (sub)project ??? Sep 22 07:52:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * red2f6968... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): moko-gtk-engine: give proper filename Sep 22 07:52:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r81d2790a... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libpng: update to 1.2.20, should fix #2992 Sep 22 07:52:50 03cesarb 07org.oe.dev * r0b567b39... 10/ (1 packages/binutils/binutils-cross.inc): binutils: workaround x86_64 problems, should close #2928 Sep 22 07:52:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r76cf86f9... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): linux-ezx: sync a1200 and e6 changes with openezx svn, add more RP patches Sep 22 07:53:00 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rff0bf88a... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.21.bb): linux-ezx: package kernel so people can flash it from userspace on the phone Sep 22 08:01:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6ba44077... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: openmoko tweaks Sep 22 08:03:50 koen: hmm, while you're at fixing bugs: I have a fix for #2813 at http://www.ploetzli.ch/forumtst/fix-libsdl-net.patch Sep 22 08:37:20 koen: is the --disable-gui a problem in this patch to fix the libsdl-net problem in bug 2923: http://marex.hackndev.com/libsdl_net-fix.patch ? Sep 22 08:38:07 it is Sep 22 08:47:07 disable-gui just makes the configure go through. it will still find /usr/bin/sdl-config and use it to figure out the CFLAGS for sdl and then fail when compiling using -I/usr/include Sep 22 08:48:49 the problem is that the configure script when searching the sdl-config tool first looks into $prefix/bin and $prefix/usr/bin before looking into $PATH (where it would find ...staging/i686-linux/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi.../sdl-config) Sep 22 08:53:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * radf71443... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.21.bb): linux-ezx: fix PR Sep 22 08:53:06 03henryk.ploetz 07org.oe.dev * r2ba12b9f... 10/ (1 packages/libsdl/libsdl-net_1.2.7.bb): libsdl-net: fix #2813 Sep 22 08:57:19 * Bernardo is away: Ausente por agora. Sep 22 09:28:01 was the PR bumped on that fix? Sep 22 09:28:10 (the libsdl-net one) Sep 22 10:22:52 rwhitby: it wasn't bumped since I thought the output package wouldn't change Sep 22 10:24:07 hmm - another reason to bump is so that autobuilders automatically rebuild the package instead of cotinually failing on it. Sep 22 10:24:26 (and humans acting like autobuilders too) Sep 22 10:26:58 shouldn't the autobuilders start from scratch instead of mindlessly repeating the failing do_configure/compile? Sep 22 10:34:35 pH5: depends whether you want to continually be syncing gigabytes of rebuilt unchanged packages to the feed machine .. Sep 22 10:35:27 IMHO, a PR bump can't hurt (people need to rebuild the package to get the fix anyway), and it makes sure that everyone gets the fix immediately, so it saves more bug reports from people who don't search before submitting. Sep 22 10:36:42 rwhitby: no, I was talking about starting the failed package from scratch. no syncing of unchanged packages needed there. Sep 22 10:38:11 but I agree that a PR bump won't hurt, as there is no other mechanism to easily force re-running do_configure (although it could be seen as a layering violation, PR should describe the result of the do_package_write step) Sep 22 10:39:36 if there was an automatic way to force the complete rebuild of the failing package, I would definitely implement that on the autobuilder. Sep 22 10:39:50 I fully agree with you there. Sep 22 10:40:59 I wonder if someone could work out a class which hooked into the failure (like tinderbox does) and then does an rm_work on the package before exiting. Only for autobuilder use. Sep 22 10:41:24 or just kills the stamps, but leaves the evidence there for debugging. Sep 22 10:47:23 * Crofton|home fires off a build on a x86_64 machine Sep 22 11:44:21 rwhitby, hi, I see, I have a lot to learn :) Sep 22 12:09:56 * XorA|gone finds strange stuff in imagemagick .bb ${libdir}/ImageMagick-${PV}/modules-Q16/*/*.la Sep 22 12:10:02 for the non -dev image Sep 22 12:10:11 s/image/package/ Sep 22 12:22:38 what is up with the website .... Sep 22 12:24:09 probably need to pay the munchkins more Sep 22 12:25:41 need to feed the hamsters Sep 22 12:57:02 rwhitby: INHERIT += "tinderclient"; TINDER_AUTOBUILD = 2 or INHERIT += ""seppuku" ; SEPPUKU_AUTOBUILD = "1" will clean the package after failure Sep 22 12:57:29 anything calling itself 'autobuilder' should at least use one of those classes Sep 22 12:57:34 IMNSHO Sep 22 12:58:38 koen: thx Sep 22 12:59:01 angstrom.inc has sane default configuration for both those classes Sep 22 12:59:29 seppuku needs a username and password for bugzilla, but the comments in angstrom.inc should be more than enough to figure that out Sep 22 13:00:53 mickeyl: enjoy portugal, I loved lisbon when I was there in march Sep 22 13:01:12 thanks :) Sep 22 13:01:21 really looking forward to it Sep 22 13:01:29 * mickeyl blogging about Qtopia on the Neo atm. Sep 22 13:01:45 rwhitby: but anyway, you're right that PR bumps are cheap Sep 22 13:02:59 mickeyl: I looked at the ezx at commands in the wiki and I can't find AT=CFUN and AT+COPS :( Sep 22 13:03:07 s/=/+/ Sep 22 13:03:41 odd Sep 22 13:03:51 perhaps the ezx just lists the non-standard extensions Sep 22 13:04:02 s/ezx/exz wiki/ Sep 22 13:04:06 http://wiki.openezx.org/AT_commands Sep 22 13:04:22 it's littered with "Remove official AT commands from this list." warnings Sep 22 13:04:39 maybe I should try to get a listing myself Sep 22 13:05:51 yea Sep 22 13:06:08 does anyone know the list command? Sep 22 13:06:41 iirc AT+CLAC Sep 22 13:08:06 ah yes Sep 22 13:09:48 * Bernardo is back. Sep 22 13:11:12 WTH? Sep 22 13:11:14 +CME ERROR: 4 Sep 22 13:11:28 * koen thought AT+CLAC was mandatory Sep 22 13:13:04 odd Sep 22 13:13:06 ~lart MOTO Sep 22 13:13:06 * ibot drops a humongous exploding nuke on MOTO Sep 22 13:16:34 man Sep 22 13:16:38 even ATZ doesn't work Sep 22 13:16:54 * Crofton|home has a flashback to the days of modems Sep 22 13:19:51 * koen stabs CME ERROR: 100 Sep 22 13:20:11 people that create an error code for 'unknown error' should be taken out and shot Sep 22 13:27:28 mickeyl: btw, pxa overlay is working on my a780 with mplayer, now we only need the sram patch to get an even better gui experience Sep 22 13:30:14 awesome! Sep 22 13:30:16 really good stuff Sep 22 13:30:49 and I applied al non-zaurus, non-wifi and non-serial rp patches as well Sep 22 13:31:40 * koen refreshes http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/blog/ again Sep 22 13:35:57 morning Sep 22 13:36:09 hey XorA Sep 22 13:38:29 hmm, have efforts been made to reduce the amount of crap that needs bauilding for angstrom-console-image? Sep 22 13:41:27 Crofton|home: yes, see my and marcin's mail to the list (task-base is too big thread) Sep 22 13:41:41 I remember Sep 22 13:41:54 let's just say I think good things have happened Sep 22 13:42:08 not that I was really paying attention to build time Sep 22 13:42:29 I was actually checking the x86_64 fix :)\ Sep 22 13:56:43 We need make some "marketing" presentations on OE .... Sep 22 13:57:06 "Seize extensive ROI with OE OMG" Sep 22 13:57:16 heh Sep 22 13:57:25 yes Sep 22 13:57:31 but more detailed :) Sep 22 13:57:41 and targeted at guys that do real work Sep 22 14:07:06 ~lart imagemagick Sep 22 14:07:06 * ibot runs at imagemagick with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut Sep 22 14:10:07 damn perl guys and their hardcoded /usr/lib obsession Sep 22 14:26:18 Cool, my fixes for the build problems in binutils and emotion (libpng) went in, now only mtpaint is left on my local overlay Sep 22 14:28:40 cedric: nice work on emotion BTW Sep 22 14:29:18 cesarb: that was meant to be Sep 22 14:29:42 XorA: heh, everyone trips up on IRC clients' autocomplete ;-) Sep 22 14:30:24 wierdly autocomete chose you second time round Sep 22 14:30:45 XorA: I was actually trying to trace upwards from the point of the crash to where the (what I thought was misalloced) pointer was coming from, but the problem ended up being right next to the crash site Sep 22 14:31:10 XorA: first I had suspected emotion/evas/whatever, but the code looked correct Sep 22 14:31:53 XorA: it was when I did a "info registers" to show the current pointer value that the problem became quite obvious... the pointer value was less than 16! Sep 22 14:32:14 cedric: heh heh, yeah on anything other than 6502 that would be suspicious :-) Sep 22 14:32:54 XorA: on all linux targets I know of, any pointer value less than 4096 is definitely suspicious (that's within the null-pointer guard page) Sep 22 14:33:46 yay, now it stops at ruby :( will check after lunch Sep 22 14:35:10 should .la files end up in -dev or should they just be forgotten? Sep 22 14:35:31 right now .dev Sep 22 14:35:39 * XorA fixes up imagemagick Sep 22 14:35:49 Ross theorizes we can do away with them if we fix our toolchain Sep 22 14:37:02 shit, make sure you copy patches before cleaning dir Sep 22 14:40:05 * koen is still confused by not having ATZ on a modem Sep 22 14:41:44 * koen is amused by the sudden popularity of debian/OABI in zauri Sep 22 14:41:59 especially since it needs repackaged ipkgs from angstrom Sep 22 14:43:05 * XorA wonders why not the shiney debian/EABI Sep 22 14:44:18 I did mention 'zaurus', right? Sep 22 14:44:40 yeah Sep 22 14:46:46 NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: Sep 22 14:46:46 NOTE: /home/dp/zaurus/build-ang/tmp/staging/man/man3/Image::Magick.3pm Sep 22 14:46:48 WTF Sep 22 14:50:14 * koen heads out Sep 22 14:50:16 later all Sep 22 14:56:18 ~ping Crofton Sep 22 14:56:19 pong Crofton Sep 22 15:01:01 steliosk, pong Sep 22 15:08:40 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rbd8400bd... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-common.bb): tuxbox-common: use more recent terrestrial.xml from tuxbox cvs Sep 22 15:08:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb77bbe31... 10/ (1 conf/machine/dht-walnut.conf): dht-walnut: fix PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS Sep 22 15:08:51 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rbd49fc36... 10/ (1 packages/guichan packages/guichan/guichan_0.7.1.bb): guichan: a C++ game GUI library using Allegro, OpenGL, OpenLayer and/or SDL Sep 22 15:08:57 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r5150c80a... 10/ (1 packages/guichan/guichan_0.7.1.bb): guichan: fix do_stage Sep 22 15:10:50 Crofton|home : Will you be in Austin ? Sep 22 15:11:13 no Sep 22 15:11:15 not Austin Sep 22 15:11:27 I am very close to buying a ticket for Berlin though Sep 22 15:12:18 Crofton|home : cool. Sep 22 15:12:23 yeah Sep 22 15:12:52 Crofton|home : i am flying tomorrow morning Sep 22 15:13:09 cool Sep 22 15:13:11 have a good trip Sep 22 15:13:28 thanks. Sep 22 15:13:31 good luck visiting people Sep 22 15:13:38 hehe Sep 22 15:13:50 i had to extend my stay for 1 day Sep 22 15:14:04 We really need to make some standard presentations for stuff like this Sep 22 15:14:09 due to talks? Sep 22 15:14:17 yeah Sep 22 15:15:08 good Sep 22 15:15:17 will you talk to TI? Sep 22 15:48:14 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re69f2426... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): alsa-state: add asound.state for hx4700 Sep 22 15:48:19 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r38e00c69... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): pointercal: add hx4700 pointercal Sep 22 16:02:16 damnation "string"" parses as valid by bitbake Sep 22 16:08:22 morning Sep 22 16:56:51 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r3b02f9b6... 10/ (1 packages/libtiff/tiff_3.7.2.bb): Sep 22 16:56:51 libtiff/tiff_3.7.2.bb : change to use oe_libinstall helper based on work Sep 22 16:56:51 of Zero_Chaos Sep 22 16:56:56 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r870a9f1c... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Sep 22 16:56:56 imagemagick/imagemagick_6.3.5-10.bb : new version of image magick. Sep 22 16:56:56 fixed #1379 by disabling perl image magick as it is broken and looking Sep 22 16:56:56 at previous recipe has always been broken. Sep 22 16:56:58 fixed #2525 by pactching the -config files so binconfig can do its magic. Sep 22 16:57:00 Have built kismet against it and kismet is happy Sep 22 17:30:48 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rbea24da9... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): alsa-state: add magician state, bump PR Sep 22 17:30:54 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r19161da8... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): pointercal: remove pointercal again, we tried this before :/ Sep 22 17:31:11 s/pointercal/hx4700 pointercal/ Sep 22 17:34:42 hi there. Sep 22 17:34:59 what should I use as glib pref. version? Sep 22 17:35:27 glibc-intermediate-2.5-r7 is not compiling Sep 22 17:37:44 bedboi: It worked last time I tried, but I synced and trying a rebuild now :) Sep 22 17:43:02 CM: it gives me a lot of unres. symbols Sep 22 17:43:10 -arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/csu/crt1.o: Sep 22 18:00:33 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra312c0f1... 10/ (1 packages/openal packages/openal/openal_0.0.8.bb): openal: add OpenAL, a cross-platform 3D audio API Sep 22 18:00:38 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r23511875... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Sep 22 18:00:38 openal: add void workaround, otherwise gcc 4.2.1 doesn't want to compile Sep 22 18:00:38 anything including alc.h Sep 22 18:26:11 bedboi: It compiled fine for me, but I got a lot of QA issue warnings Sep 22 18:44:08 CM: yep i just removed the dir, and the stamps Sep 22 18:44:13 it's fine now Sep 22 18:45:24 Strangely, that's usually the way to solve the build problems Sep 22 18:45:38 But I'm glad it works :) Sep 22 18:45:53 lol Sep 22 18:58:00 pH5: do you know what happened to the pxa camera driver effort? Sep 22 19:00:43 koen: afaict nobody is actively working on it right now. when I played with it, I couldn't get the DMA transfers to work on 2.6 and put it back to the end of my TODO. Sep 22 19:01:18 is there a patch on the internet somewhere that applies to a recent 2.6 kernel? Sep 22 19:01:41 * koen is trying to get his a780 doing something usefull Sep 22 19:02:23 detecting the image sensor would be enough for me at this point :) Sep 22 19:06:21 koen: that worked already, the driver is in slapin_nb's git repo, which is not public Sep 22 19:06:39 [21:03] drWyrM: koen, on the my hackish version dma was working. Sep 22 19:06:40 [21:03] drWyrM: but it is ugly as hell, and is for .16 Sep 22 19:06:43 from #openezx Sep 22 19:07:02 hmmh? it seems I'm not up to date. Sep 22 19:07:28 there are no new commits in slapin's repo, so I guess you'd have to ask drWyrM for his sources. Sep 22 19:07:40 http://en.pastebin.ca/707276 is what I have here. Sep 22 19:07:57 my plan was to send your/slapins patch to drwyrm/ezx dudes Sep 22 19:09:37 heh, I'm completely out of the loop. I should get on #openezx again. Sep 22 19:15:38 pH5: after diffsplit: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/pxa-camera/broken-out/ Sep 22 19:26:10 mickeyl: didn't you promiss to write the ezx cameradriver for 2.6? Sep 22 19:26:15 * koen hides Sep 22 19:27:00 heh Sep 22 19:27:15 * Crofton notes airfares are on crack Sep 22 19:27:23 I'd really like to see a unified capture interface driver for pxa_ci / the omap stuff. Sep 22 19:27:30 * koen got his traintickers by mail yesterday Sep 22 19:27:37 pH5: v4l2? Sep 22 19:27:37 But I couldn't care less about the magician's "camera", personally. Sep 22 19:27:51 leaving US on Thursday costs 540, Friday 669, Saturday 1040 + taxes of course Sep 22 19:27:55 pH5: s/camera/ambient light sensor/ Sep 22 19:28:09 Crofton those are weekend price Sep 22 19:28:22 they charge more to fly on Saturday? Sep 22 19:28:27 yup Sep 22 19:28:38 * Crofton does not comprehend ... Sep 22 19:29:06 koen: heh? not at all. i just pointed out there was a whole lot of code in the mainstone sources released by intel Sep 22 19:29:15 Crofton it's simple if you leave on saturday (which most people have off) you don't have to miss work ;) Sep 22 19:29:21 this now is very old, but perhaps a bit could be used Sep 22 19:29:33 I suppose Sep 22 19:29:34 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/pxa-camera/broken-out/ Sep 22 19:29:40 I just go for longer Sep 22 19:29:43 a revamp by slapin and ph5 Sep 22 19:29:48 oh that's not too bad Sep 22 19:29:51 good start Sep 22 19:29:57 and the price difference sounds like it covers the extra night Sep 22 19:30:04 * Crofton goes for a snack Sep 22 19:30:12 Crofton it's the same principle with gas ... higher on weekend because more people travel Sep 22 19:31:38 koen: interesting idea :) Sep 22 19:32:30 pH5: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/pxa-camera/ezx/ Sep 22 19:35:27 re Sep 22 19:37:06 pH5, repo is public Sep 22 19:37:39 slapin_nb: great Sep 22 19:38:35 pH5, but I'd like to host it somewhere so I don't have to put up gitweb or something else Sep 22 19:39:07 pH5, since I sometimes forget to run git server Sep 22 19:39:35 zecke: wb Sep 22 19:39:38 do we have git on linuxtogo.org? Sep 22 19:39:42 hey mickeyl, zecke Sep 22 19:39:46 not yet Sep 22 19:39:48 oops Sep 22 19:39:49 ;) Sep 22 19:39:51 hi pH5 Sep 22 19:39:56 pH5: can you make it to OEDEM? Sep 22 19:41:17 mickeyl: at least on the week-end and maybe in the evenings, yes. Sep 22 19:41:28 pH5: excellent. looking forward to talking some more with you Sep 22 19:41:32 git clone git://ossfans.org/git/kernel-ov96xx.git should work. Sep 22 19:42:31 and pH5 havs commit access via ssh (and anyone else who cares can have it too). Sep 22 19:43:01 (by emailing me with request) Sep 22 19:48:31 mickeyl: is moko-gtk-engine going to replace the theme, and if so, how would we integrate qvga stuff? Sep 22 19:49:35 mickeyl: btw, before: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/9d56018c7e2b722a163a8455a03fe4e8.png and after: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/2e74b63204773de27da08c5907c1fa02.png Sep 22 19:51:53 zecke: can mokofingerscroll get reenabled in your browser? Sep 22 19:52:27 koen: maybe, if it starts to behave like a GtkScrolledWindow ;) Sep 22 19:52:43 koen: but you can try to revert that one cset and see if it is crashing Sep 22 19:55:54 roh, I using the official release of directfb_1.1.0 and not the latest git snapshot.. I might add the git later as that is what I'm currently using for my board. I"m assuming you would prefer the official. Sep 22 19:57:39 koen: "not sure at this point" is the answer i can give Sep 22 19:58:46 koen: oh, the keyboard is slightly better drawn Sep 22 19:59:45 mickeyl: the patches to mb-keyboard didn't get copied to mb-keyb-im :( Sep 22 20:00:01 so you're looking at a fixed regression Sep 22 20:00:01 aah Sep 22 20:00:11 when did you fix that? Sep 22 20:00:11 well 'fixed' Sep 22 20:00:18 yesterday or so Sep 22 20:00:20 i have compiled the snapshot yesterday night Sep 22 20:00:21 hmm Sep 22 20:00:29 well, it's not relevant for the Neo Sep 22 20:00:35 so the snapshot should be ok Sep 22 20:00:39 http://monotone.openembedded.org/revision/info/aef798196b233d2c1cd45b03ce9c7de24e43589f Sep 22 20:00:59 it only triggers on x-width < 320 Sep 22 20:01:44 I don't think you have that on the neo :) Sep 22 20:02:39 err, right :) Sep 22 20:03:12 doubel checking, if I am in Berlin from Oct 5 - 10, I will be able to attend OEDEM? Sep 22 20:03:26 yes Sep 22 20:03:31 sprint: 6th/7th Sep 22 20:03:35 yes Sep 22 20:03:39 conference: 8th/9th Sep 22 20:03:49 It would be embaressing to miss the event Sep 22 20:03:54 misc: 10th/11th Sep 22 20:04:00 I will bring gumstix and OSK :) Sep 22 20:04:05 coolness Sep 22 20:04:12 hmm Sep 22 20:04:19 need to check power supplies Sep 22 20:04:55 OSk is wide range input Sep 22 20:05:28 gumstix ps is wide range Sep 22 20:07:23 Crofton: cool, you flying in the 5th then? Sep 22 20:07:43 leave on 5, arrive on 6 Sep 22 20:07:49 spend 6 de jet lagging Sep 22 20:07:54 heh heh Sep 22 20:08:06 drink a whole shitload of beer and reset body clock Sep 22 20:08:09 cost about $100 more to fly on friday Sep 22 20:08:38 mickeyl: BTW whats the level of english speaking in Berlin? Sep 22 20:08:48 need to check with Adam and see if I can bring along known working gumstix boards Sep 22 20:08:54 in addition to new cool ones Sep 22 20:08:55 XorA|gone: pretty much everyone Sep 22 20:09:00 mickeyl: phew! Sep 22 20:09:06 wew Sep 22 20:09:26 * XorA|gone has gotta love the .eu guys making up for .uk stupidity Sep 22 20:09:27 english is pretty common in germany -- at least among the population aged 16-45 Sep 22 20:09:43 ticket purchased Sep 22 20:09:47 congrats Sep 22 20:09:59 my first time outside Franfurt airport Sep 22 20:10:02 I paid $100 more to get back 3 hours early Sep 22 20:10:03 +k Sep 22 20:10:34 the cheapest had a horible schedule Sep 22 20:10:39 4 hours in Philadelphia Sep 22 20:11:43 heh philli Sep 22 20:13:12 * Crofton hates that airport Sep 22 20:13:22 I return through Charlotte Sep 22 20:13:29 no four hour layover Sep 22 20:22:57 re Sep 22 20:24:08 ok, lodging for OEDEM Sep 22 20:24:51 Crofton: Im in the Honigmond Restaurent Hotel Sep 22 20:26:06 ok Sep 22 20:26:13 how do you make a reservation? Sep 22 20:26:32 Crofton: goto link on oedem page, find the reservation form Sep 22 20:26:39 trying Sep 22 20:26:44 Crofton: and if you fill form in english they email in english :-) Sep 22 20:26:45 my German is "poor" Sep 22 20:27:04 http://www.honigmond-berlin.de/ Sep 22 20:27:36 yeah Sep 22 20:27:49 erk, wanky music Sep 22 20:28:02 sound is busted on my work machine so I never got that before Sep 22 20:28:23 you only need to remember 'zwiebeln', 'scheisse' and 'Dr. Lauer zahlt' Sep 22 20:28:28 buchungsanfrage means form Sep 22 20:28:56 Crofton: I assume so Sep 22 20:29:01 so fill out the form and they will contact me :) Sep 22 20:29:05 bookingrequest Sep 22 20:29:08 ah Sep 22 20:29:15 Zimmerwahl is what type of room Sep 22 20:29:22 tent is campinghouse Sep 22 20:29:28 I learned that in Mexico Sep 22 20:29:37 RH is Restaurant Hotel, GH is garden hotel, GH is a lot more expensive :-) Sep 22 20:29:46 talking to some Germans who were trying to figure out the English word "tent" Sep 22 20:29:48 :) Sep 22 20:29:56 right Sep 22 20:29:59 cheap hotel Sep 22 20:30:02 tent = zelt :) Sep 22 20:30:11 how is wireless? Sep 22 20:30:38 the office will have some form of wifi and at night we'll have beer Sep 22 20:30:56 I like beer AND wifi Sep 22 20:31:17 I can give a piece of string and 2 beercans Sep 22 20:31:32 what is zimmerwahl? Sep 22 20:31:33 you'll get netaccess if you can the the USRP to encode IP over that Sep 22 20:31:41 I gather this has to do with toilets? Sep 22 20:31:44 zimmerwahl = roomchoice Sep 22 20:31:45 heh Sep 22 20:31:55 or rather choice of type Sep 22 20:32:07 dusch = shower, wc = toilet Sep 22 20:32:07 what shoudl I chose? Sep 22 20:32:13 koen: what day do you arrive Sep 22 20:32:19 5th Sep 22 20:32:33 Crofton: look at price list, but ignore prices Sep 22 20:32:42 at 1 o'clock in the afternoon Sep 22 20:32:44 Crofton: even us german damaged can work out the room types :-) Sep 22 20:32:57 EZ Sep 22 20:33:08 einzelzimmer Sep 22 20:33:12 one person Sep 22 20:33:17 doppelzimmer Sep 22 20:33:20 double room Sep 22 20:33:28 zimmer is room Sep 22 20:33:35 koen: Berlin Tegel at 12:45pm for me Sep 22 20:33:35 right Sep 22 20:33:57 EZ is not En-suite Sep 22 20:34:11 XorA|gone: we can meet at hauptbanhof or friedrichstrasse Sep 22 20:34:29 koen: thats assuming I can find them :-) Sep 22 20:34:42 I assume sharing a bathroom is OK? Sep 22 20:34:47 friedrichstrasse is the underground line hub Sep 22 20:35:05 hauptbanhof is the central station, only has one underground line Sep 22 20:35:11 (or two, but not many) Sep 22 20:35:43 how easy is it to get from Tegel to RH? Sep 22 20:36:16 Crofton: working that out :-) Sep 22 20:36:21 ok Sep 22 20:36:49 at least I get to wake in Frankfurt Sep 22 20:37:25 koen: Hauptbahnhof appears to be direct bus from Tegel Sep 22 20:37:34 XorA|gone: http://selectparks.net/~julian/share/Map_Berlin_S_UBahnNetz.jpg Sep 22 20:38:50 koen: whats the grid of the venue for OEDEM, just so I can vaguely get bearings Sep 22 20:40:39 will we have wireless for meetings? Sep 22 20:40:51 XorA|gone: E4-E5 Sep 22 20:41:24 koen: ahah cool Sep 22 20:41:27 in between zinnowitzer strasse, oranienburger tor and rosentaler platz Sep 22 20:41:33 ~lart Tegel for not being on underground Sep 22 20:41:33 * ibot eats Tegel's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti for not being on underground Sep 22 20:41:48 http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=Tieckstrasse.+12,+10115+Berlin+,+germany&sll=52.469397,5.509644&sspn=2.175221,6.536865&ie=UTF8&ll=52.529146,13.39184&spn=0.008485,0.025535&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 Sep 22 20:42:01 the 'U' and 'S' markers are for the underground Sep 22 20:42:22 (althought the 'S' in more above ground due to communists being too lazy to dig) Sep 22 20:42:36 koen hehe Sep 22 20:43:17 koen and in america you would have said: too cheap to dig ;) Sep 22 20:44:28 koen: ahah, I get my bearings, looks like bus from Tegel to Haupbanhof then short walk Sep 22 20:45:09 stupid communists Sep 22 20:46:00 Crofton: could be worse, could be like the big dig, and it collapses a few weeks after opening Sep 22 20:46:09 hehe Sep 22 20:46:17 due to capitalist profiteering Sep 22 20:46:48 curses, no card for GPS covering Germany and Benelux Sep 22 20:46:52 have to get both Sep 22 20:47:14 good thing I own Navtec stock .... Sep 22 20:47:15 XorA|gone: day tickets are the best option, they are like €5 iirc Sep 22 20:47:22 hmmm this new album by nightwish is really good Sep 22 20:47:27 koen: ah good news Sep 22 20:47:36 koen: that gives me the oppurtunity to get lost as well Sep 22 20:47:52 just pretend it's london and follow the colours :) Sep 22 20:48:09 koen: Buses arent on that map though Sep 22 20:48:56 I arrive at 10 AM Sep 22 20:49:50 Crofton: route from Tegel looks quite simple Sep 22 20:49:59 good Sep 22 20:50:17 Direct bus to either of the places koen mentioned Sep 22 20:50:21 * koen needs to visit http://www.fotoimpex.de/impressum/impressum.html as well Sep 22 20:50:25 I was like a zombie in Brussels Sep 22 20:51:39 koen: Well we are relying on you as tour guide :-) Sep 22 20:52:00 :D Sep 22 20:52:19 Crofton: some BRU cures zombieness Sep 22 20:52:29 and beer guide Sep 22 20:52:43 * XorA|gone will attempt to squezze bru into suitcase Sep 22 20:53:00 if we can find a scotch then we can make Rusty Nails Sep 22 20:54:01 Crofton XorA|gone be careful with bar in europe ... the first bar we went in Malaga was a brothel ... Sep 22 20:54:13 chouimat: Im in Europe :-) Sep 22 20:54:17 XorA|gone: ;) Sep 22 20:54:27 mickeyl: I'm trying to build a project with scons, and it fails in a SharedLibrary builder with a dependency on a file "NOTE:" Sep 22 20:54:43 fun Sep 22 20:54:46 which package is that? Sep 22 20:54:53 drop me a note in the bugtracker and I'll check when I'm back Sep 22 20:55:06 mickeyl: when I run scons with --debug=tree, I get the "NOTE: sysconfig.get_config_h_filename() altered for OpenEmbedded" message as dependencies somewhere Sep 22 20:55:07 XorA: we just arrived in spain and decided to go get a beer or two and we stopped at the first bar we saw ... and it was one with "full service" Sep 22 20:55:14 (one target per word) Sep 22 20:55:24 chouimat: thats not unusual Sep 22 20:55:28 pH5: oh. looks like it relies on some python output there Sep 22 20:55:36 http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&hl=nl&geocode=&saddr=+Alte+Sch%C3%B6nhauserstrasse+32,+berlin,+germany&daddr=Tieckstrasse.+12,+10115+Berlin+,+germany&sll=52.529146,13.39184&sspn=0.008485,0.025535&ie=UTF8&ll=52.525486,13.405866&spn=0.001061,0.003192&t=h&z=19&om=1 Sep 22 20:55:40 chouimat: come to Edinburgh and get a massage with extras :-) Sep 22 20:55:48 * koen sees a big hole instead of subway entrance Sep 22 20:55:59 pH5: you might try patching the "cross-compile" patch in python-native Sep 22 20:56:05 XorA: still funny to tell the story and see my grandmothers be scandalised by it Sep 22 20:56:07 bbiab Sep 22 21:06:26 I guess I should install OE on my laptop ...... Sep 22 21:07:54 the transport company is well cool, you can make PDF of timetables from anyplace to anyplace Sep 22 21:08:11 this time Im going to try and actually not go via Munich Sep 22 21:10:04 no via Munich ,.oh ... as these days you will have party all night ! Oktoberfest ! Sep 22 21:14:54 rob_w: bit of a long way round to go between airport and central berlin Sep 22 21:14:59 ~lart my bad typing Sep 22 21:15:00 * ibot crushes my bad typing with a full height scsi disk Sep 22 21:15:57 berlin , ah ok , well i was thinking of only munich right now Sep 22 21:16:26 rob_w: but feel free to organise oedem 2008 in a beer festival Sep 22 21:16:34 XorA, btw did you decide yet to either X or A ? ;-) Sep 22 21:16:47 rob_w: Xor A Sep 22 21:17:03 thats different Sep 22 21:17:25 for me you are X or A ! Sep 22 21:17:30 mickey|bbiab: ok, can I just remove those NOTE:s if it fixes the issue? Sep 22 21:18:00 X | A is probably >0 Xor A is always zero Sep 22 21:19:01 really ? Sep 22 21:19:15 you lost me on this , sorry Sep 22 21:19:55 rob_w: heh heh, no assembly for you Sep 22 21:20:59 like a segfault, ".. you just cant find a brain cell which would solve it " Sep 22 21:22:11 Assembly denied, reroute to QC. Sep 22 21:28:41 reboot Sep 22 21:28:54 focus! Sep 22 21:31:17 can i use a hsdpa modem from eu in the usa ? Sep 22 21:33:24 * XorA goes off to do other stuff Sep 22 21:38:41 hi all Sep 22 21:42:35 nice error while building gcc-cross-4.2.1-r6 -- http://pastebin.ca/707388 anyone hit same problems? angstrom 2008.1 if that matters Sep 22 21:44:38 Darth_Wader, thats a looong message Sep 22 21:45:03 i know :) Sep 22 21:46:07 btw, why the hell do someone need fortran on embedded systems? Sep 22 21:46:25 to build octave :) Sep 22 21:46:50 especially on arm+softmmu Sep 22 22:25:06 03svolpe 07org.oe.dev * r8d22a151... 10/ (1 packages/directfb/fusionsound_1.1.0+git20070709.bb): Fusionsound-1.1.0: Added Fusionsound 1.1.0 Sep 22 22:25:11 03svolpe 07org.oe.dev * r21944f0f... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Directfb-1.1.0: Added Directfb Version 1.1.0 Sep 22 23:33:43 any tslib expert here? Sep 22 23:33:52 kergoth, you awake man :D you are the expert Sep 22 23:46:36 kristoffer, I'm not an expert but I use it a lot and have made some minor changes to the code.. Sep 22 23:46:47 svolpe, oki good enough Sep 22 23:46:56 Im working on a rewrite of an old touchscreen driver Sep 22 23:47:15 It used to work, but now when I start tslib I get Sep 22 23:47:29 selected device is not a touchscreen I understand Sep 22 23:47:39 The thing is that its working perfectly fine Sep 22 23:47:52 Im guessing that tslib uses something to identify the device Sep 22 23:48:08 kristoffer, yes, there is a config file that you specify the device. Sep 22 23:48:10 It works fine in console (reporting correct values and all), but not at all with ts_calibrate Sep 22 23:48:35 done that, and its correct Sep 22 23:48:59 kristoffer, two things.. is it a standard Linux event driver? Sep 22 23:49:29 the other thing you may need to do is set the tslib environment variable pointing it to the correct device. Sep 22 23:49:38 yes, It was finished, until this bug appeard :D Im talking with the maintainer and its basicly ready Sep 22 23:49:46 hold on and I will get the variable name.. Sep 22 23:49:53 its pointing to the correct device, Ive double and triple checked Sep 22 23:49:59 oki Sep 22 23:50:31 svolpe, I've found the error now Sep 22 23:51:01 for some stupid reason tslib uses ABS_PRESSURE to detect wether or not it is a proper touchscreen device Sep 22 23:52:05 kristoffer, good I'm glad you found it.. fyi the env. variable to set the device is TSLIB_TSDEVICE Sep 22 23:52:34 svolpe, we seem to be talking about different things Sep 22 23:52:43 who is the maintainer of tslib currently? Sep 22 23:54:35 kristoffer, not sure.. Sep 22 23:55:57 I've seen kergoth's name mentioned on its homepage, but dont know if he's been working on it lately Sep 22 23:56:04 basicly, I want ABS_PRESSURE removed for identification purposes Sep 22 23:56:05 kristoffer, well if you set the module (ts type) in the ts config file and then you point the ts environment variable to the correct device it should detect it fine. Sep 22 23:56:26 *sigh*, no offense but you are missing my problem Sep 22 23:56:31 my config is 100% fine Sep 22 23:56:36 my driver is 100% fine Sep 22 23:56:38 tslib is not Sep 22 23:57:46 kristoffer, ok, I guess were I'm confused is are you writing a driver for ts or are you writing a kernel driver and using the kernel event interface? Sep 22 23:58:19 Im writing a kernel platform driver Sep 22 23:58:30 using the event interface yes Sep 22 23:59:59 uhm, that is what I used when I wrote my ts interface.. I did not run into any issues, I just set ts to use the kernel event input and everything worked. Sorry I'm absolutely no help :-/ Sep 23 00:00:30 the only messed up thing I had was the env. variable and instead ts tried to use the wrong device causeing all kinds of grief. Sep 23 00:00:49 03svolpe 07org.oe.dev * r954ad999... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): cairo-directfb: Added initial support Sep 23 00:01:59 kristoffer, the good news is the ts code is pretty clean and easy to follow so you should be able to patch it to meet your needs. Sep 23 00:02:19 svolpe, oki, I'll take a look at it Sep 23 00:02:22 kristoffer, thats what I did for some inversion (screen flipping) code I added. Sep 23 00:02:50 Im basicly after changing how it detects input devices.. Sep 23 00:05:53 kristoffer, I'm sure you know this already but just sprinkle printf's.. I would guess what you are looking for is in plugins input-raw.c Sep 23 00:06:14 but that is just a guess. Sep 23 00:06:35 roh, are you there? Sep 23 00:11:22 roh, I just pushed directfb-1.1.0 and added cairo-directfb Sep 23 01:00:42 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r68c1dba0... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Sep 23 01:00:42 opie-taskbar-images: Add recent CVS snapshot to het 320x480 images. Sep 23 01:00:42 * Based on the patch by Marek Vasut. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 23 02:59:56 2007