**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 28 02:59:56 2007 Sep 28 07:11:31 Morse code LED trigger: https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/target/linux/adm5120/files/drivers/leds/ledtrig-morse.c Sep 28 07:11:48 RP: ^^ can we get that pushed upstream ? Sep 28 07:30:52 rwhitby: I don't see why not Sep 28 07:37:24 RP: juhosg is on this IRC network now if you want to /msg him Sep 28 07:39:22 rwhitby: If someone gets me that as a patch very quickly, it might make the next kernel 2.6.24 ;-) Sep 28 07:39:33 It'll need to be quick though Sep 28 08:30:58 morning Sep 28 09:06:40 morning zecke, XorA Sep 28 09:07:23 yo RP Sep 28 09:07:43 * XorA spends today forgetting how sound chips work Sep 28 09:08:25 hehe Sep 28 09:40:47 * gilligan__ is back Sep 28 09:40:53 back to the same old kernel problem *sigh* Sep 28 09:40:54 ;] Sep 28 09:42:49 we could shoot you and end the misery? Sep 28 09:46:33 hmmm Sep 28 09:46:50 gilligan__ having fun with the kernel too right now Sep 28 09:46:53 can i get back to you on that after the weekend? :) Sep 28 09:47:50 well my "fun" is that apparently gcc 4.2 generates different code based on the exact same source than it does on cbrake's pc Sep 28 09:48:34 thats normal Sep 28 09:49:53 well my kernel dont want to uncompress when i load it in my redboot ... Sep 28 09:49:55 thats fun, too Sep 28 09:50:10 no.. it certainly is not supped to generate a kernel that differs with around 3000bytes Sep 28 09:50:37 not the exact same gcc on the same architecture (even same distrib actually) Sep 28 09:53:04 time for lunch Sep 28 09:54:13 gilligan__: gcc has long had stupid bugs like that Sep 28 09:54:26 gilligan__: there is even one bug in OE bugtracker for that case on zaurus Sep 28 10:18:36 i build a kernel in OE with the .config file from the vendor but when i load it to the target (ep93xx) i dont see a Uncompressing Linux..... Sep 28 10:18:53 it just stops after Sep 28 10:18:54 RedBoot> fis load zImage Sep 28 10:18:54 RedBoot> exec -c "root=/dev/mtdblock2 ip=dhcp console=ttyAM0 rootfstype=jffs2" Sep 28 10:18:54 Using base address 0x00042000 and length 0x001d9ad0 Sep 28 10:20:11 what board is that? Sep 28 10:24:48 http://www.glomationinc.com/product_9302E.html Sep 28 10:25:54 * XorA wonders about the wierd american habbit of pluralising lego Sep 28 10:26:21 ~fish lrg Sep 28 10:26:22 * ibot slaps lrg around with a large trout Sep 28 10:27:12 nik0n: is 0x00042000 correct base? Sep 28 10:30:13 its the %{FREEMEMLO} adress in redboot Sep 28 10:30:19 other kernels work with this base Sep 28 13:47:13 I need a blog Sep 28 13:53:40 Crofton: finish your thesis instead Sep 28 13:53:45 morning Sep 28 13:53:53 good point Sep 28 13:54:10 I have an email I need to post that explains why I need to finish my thesis Sep 28 13:54:28 and I will have a copy to my advisor for review while I am at OEDEM Sep 28 13:56:37 Crofton: you can always scrape the bottom of blogosphere and get an LJ Sep 28 13:57:02 blogger Sep 28 13:58:22 or be super teeny and get a myspace :-D Sep 28 14:09:13 http://fifisramblings.blogspot.com/ Sep 28 14:10:37 Crofton: welcome Sep 28 14:16:33 is anyone here using OE on a board with a CS4202 audio chip? Sep 28 15:01:05 Crofton, still here? Sep 28 15:01:43 Good afternoon Sep 28 15:01:56 yo sirfred Sep 28 15:02:05 hows life? Sep 28 15:02:05 XorA: Hey Sep 28 15:02:13 XorA: A little busy lately. What about yours? Sep 28 15:02:20 sirfred: last day on the job Sep 28 15:02:33 XorA: Yes, what happened? Sep 28 15:02:38 XorA: Changing, fired... ? Sep 28 15:03:07 sirfred: changing Sep 28 15:03:15 I hope that for better Sep 28 15:03:28 sirfred: heh heh, I think stuff become clear on monday Sep 28 15:03:44 XorA: Good luck with your new job. Sep 28 15:03:56 sirfred: I tried to port your imageon work onto kdrive 1.4 but someone went and redesigned the mose subsytem Sep 28 15:03:56 XorA: Did you shell your zaurus, finally? Sep 28 15:04:06 XorA: They, bastards... ;-) Sep 28 15:04:07 sirfred: no, still never got round to it Sep 28 15:04:19 XorA: I was able to implement mpeg decoding. Sep 28 15:04:24 XorA: IDCT + MC Sep 28 15:04:35 sirfred: wow Sep 28 15:04:39 XorA: On the libw100 library. Unfortunately, I didnt' have time to test or upload it. Sep 28 15:04:45 sirfred: nice work :) Sep 28 15:05:03 XorA: I was writing a wrapper to fake mplayer to be able to use it as a xvmc regular driver. Sep 28 15:05:10 RP: Hey! Thanks. Sep 28 15:05:18 * XorA starts considering ripping MD out of C3200 and putting it in c860 Sep 28 15:05:21 RP: I would like to update the libw100 site. Sep 28 15:06:08 XorA: Well, some limitations will arise, specially with the size of videos we could handle, as we need four surfaces, for the previous frame, the actual one, the future one and the one where we are rotating to overlay. Sep 28 15:06:14 And we only have 2Mb + 374Kb. :-) Sep 28 15:06:53 And I still have to test it, but it looks promising. Sure that after all this reverse engineering job, AMD will open the specs :-) Sep 28 15:07:14 hehe. Sep 28 15:07:17 sirfred: nice work! Sep 28 15:07:40 sirfred: so all we have to do now is get you a hx4700 Sep 28 15:07:59 RP: I was also experimenting with the ringbuffer, and the benchmark tests for typical overlay video presentation and color conversion, doubled its speed. Sep 28 15:08:03 scruggs, ping Sep 28 15:08:04 XorA: why is there no hx4700 in the oe developer pool? :) Sep 28 15:08:15 XorA: Well, and buy me some time. :-P Sep 28 15:08:27 hey - thanks for the help yesterday Sep 28 15:08:40 sirfred: It always seemed the faster interface to the chip... Sep 28 15:08:42 Things are not going too fine at job. Sep 28 15:08:43 pH5: Ive never even seen a 4700, only ipaq Ive ever touched was 5550 Sep 28 15:08:50 the angstrom rootfs and kernel booted first time Sep 28 15:09:06 sirfred: I'm going to have to try and find time to look at the code, I'd like to see the things you've found out :) Sep 28 15:09:13 sirfred: :-( no better job you can flee to? Sep 28 15:09:50 XorA: I havent searched. But I'm getting old and it's harder to change. Sep 28 15:10:27 Also, I've got used to work remotely and now, I don't want to go back to a regular on site job. :) Sep 28 15:11:49 RP: I read about some interesting things about poky, like NetworkManager integration and so Sep 28 15:12:33 sirfred: I had network manager running on a zaurus the other day :) Sep 28 15:12:44 sirfred: with your l33t reverse engineering skills Im sure there must be loads of places that love you Sep 28 15:12:56 bah, NetworkManager is old school Sep 28 15:13:04 I was running that last year Sep 28 15:13:29 XorA: Perhaps the applet integration in poky UI was the new, though Sep 28 15:13:51 XorA: I don't know, but saw a screenshot in some freedesktop blog from some Richard coleague Sep 28 15:14:01 ewww networkmanager ... piece of crap Sep 28 15:14:12 :) Sep 28 15:14:22 nm-applet freezes X :-( Sep 28 15:14:44 RP: It would be nice if you put your eyes/hands on the changed code. Remembering the old times. :-) Sep 28 15:14:55 XorA: It doesn't on the zaurus now... Sep 28 15:15:04 RP: I suppose that you're as busy as usual lately Sep 28 15:15:09 Although I have just had to kill an out of control 40MB hald Sep 28 15:15:29 RP: What're you working on lately, bitbake, mainly? Sep 28 15:15:37 sirfred: Sadly, I am busy but I do want to have a look at the code :) Sep 28 15:16:00 RP: But people need to sleep. Sep 28 15:16:03 sirfred: All kinds of things really, bitbake, poky, kernels, oprofile, oprofileui etc Sep 28 15:16:10 RP: wow Sep 28 15:16:28 RP: it used to do it after running for 4-5 days, I never worked out why Sep 28 15:16:40 RP: I was going to ask if OpenedHand is hiring people, but... I'd rather think about it more calmly. Sep 28 15:16:53 RP: and the fact it used to do it after taking down all network interfaces made it difficult to debug Sep 28 15:17:32 RP: Do you remember the patch for the accel/nonaccel switching of the w100fb acceleration ? Sep 28 15:18:05 scruggs, that sounds awesome! Sep 28 15:18:09 sirfred: There is a bit on the website about jobs iirc. If you have a think and are interested, send in your CV ;-) Sep 28 15:18:31 sirfred: I remember the patch. I suspect I said I was going to do something with it and didn't? :/ Sep 28 15:18:34 http://userfriendly.org/ Sep 28 15:18:39 yeah, its really nice with stuff works 1st time Sep 28 15:18:48 XorA: serial cables are useful for that ;-) Sep 28 15:18:52 RP: But looking at how much you work, I suspect they're going to chain me to the desk. Sep 28 15:19:06 if there is any connex testing I can do for you just let me know Sep 28 15:19:12 RP: now I have one if it ever happens again :-D Sep 28 15:19:22 sirfred: My problem is a hobby/work intersection :/ Sep 28 15:19:37 RP: No, it's only that some weird bug is involved, you have to change the value of the switch twice to have it actually accelerating. Sep 28 15:19:46 And the scroll really goes fast. Sep 28 15:19:56 But you need to set/unset the value twice. Sep 28 15:20:05 RP: I'm afraid that I would suffer a similar situation. Sep 28 15:20:30 sirfred: get new hobbies :-D Sep 28 15:20:50 RP: About the CV, perhaps, I have to see how things evolve in my job. Sep 28 15:21:33 XorA: Sure, soon I'll work as a farmer. Sep 28 15:21:50 sirfred: I build lego to relax Sep 28 15:21:57 sirfred: and wind up lrg about night clubs Sep 28 15:22:10 * Crofton wonders what it is like to realx Sep 28 15:22:29 Crofton: thats the bit between wasted and unconcious Sep 28 15:22:40 ah Sep 28 15:22:48 XorA: I've bought a house with some land, and I plan to work on it Sep 28 15:22:57 I mean relax without using booze to speed the process up :) Sep 28 15:23:08 XorA: Mindstorms or other? Sep 28 15:23:19 mwester: I have mindstorms I got cheap on ebay Sep 28 15:23:27 Cool. Sep 28 15:23:35 XorA has been in all the dodgiest Nightclubs in Edinburgh Sep 28 15:23:40 mwester: but havent had time for it yet, but I also have at least 16,600 other bricks Sep 28 15:24:19 * mwester has a couple of mindstorms kits, and years of bricks collected. Sep 28 15:24:47 * mwester has no idea how many, but probably not 16,600. Sep 28 15:24:51 annoying my RCX1.0 doesnt have a power jack that people on internet said was there Sep 28 15:24:58 I needed powerjack Sep 28 15:25:09 Hmm, I remember to have talked with a guy called koen some months ago, that told me that a software called Canola was soon to be opensourced. Sep 28 15:25:16 mwester: I have my setlist on lugnet and that tells you how many bricks are in sets in total :-) Sep 28 15:25:24 Have you seen that guy lately? :-) Sep 28 15:25:38 koen|away: nah, we kicked his worthless ass out of here :-D Sep 28 15:25:46 :) Sep 28 15:27:01 And talking about X again, I think that accelerating xrender extension could be doable. Sep 28 15:27:13 sirfred: sweet Sep 28 15:27:30 lo Sep 28 15:27:31 But restricted to some formats: 4BPP alpha , 12BPP (4bpp component alpha) 16bpp Sep 28 15:27:38 sirfred: now just find a hidden OpenGL in that chip and mallum can port his toys Sep 28 15:28:05 So, the key would be if we could make freetype for example work with 4bpp alpha for font rendering. Sep 28 15:28:27 I don't know if that is something hardcoded in the fonts, or is something that could be configured. I have to look forward. Sep 28 15:28:44 But aa font rendering could be really helped with this. Sep 28 15:28:56 XorA: the power jack problem in the 1.0 is why I ended up with two. :( Sep 28 15:29:09 I don't know if visually it should be acceptable, though Sep 28 15:29:15 mwester: ah, so the rumours of ones with powerjacks are true Sep 28 15:29:26 mwester: I want to run DCC on RCX Sep 28 15:29:38 sirfred: I remember looking at it briefly and not being optimisitic :/ Sep 28 15:29:58 At the rendering internals of freetype? Sep 28 15:30:06 Or the blending capabilities of the imageon? Sep 28 15:30:54 sirfred: Just at the code paths we use in X on the Z and that there wasn't much scope to speed them up. Changing freetype is an interesting idea... Sep 28 15:31:29 RP: I think that switching to a 16bpp world would help. It doesn't makes too sense to work in 32bpp domains to later go to 16bpp Sep 28 15:31:46 At least for fonts and icons Sep 28 15:32:07 But png does not support 16bpp colour depth afaik. Sep 28 15:33:04 sirfred: 16bpp would be interesting to see in general :) Sep 28 15:33:05 it does not?? Sep 28 15:33:42 gilligan__: Last time I looked into it (briefly) I reached that conclusion Sep 28 15:33:48 i see Sep 28 15:34:11 Well, I have to leave now. A pleasure to talk with you again, guys. Sep 28 15:48:54 time for me to shift to pubs Sep 28 15:51:28 good idea Sep 28 17:32:59 gm Sep 28 17:34:09 howdy likewise Sep 28 17:34:20 Hello HopsNBarley Sep 28 17:38:23 Gretings Sep 28 17:38:29 er, Greetings even Sep 28 17:39:08 mwester, I did your recommendation last night and dump the bb dependancy list for my package.. I gre'd the list and still my system calls pango and not pango-directfb.. I just can't seem to duplicate the issue your seeing. Sep 28 17:52:05 scruggs, ping Sep 28 18:03:39 svolpe: did you dump the bb dependency list for openmoko? bitbake openmoko-devel-image (with the appropriate flags) will generate the full dependency list. Someone pointed out to me that it was non-deterministic, perhaps it's just chance that it works for you and fails here? Sep 28 18:03:58 mwester, I will try that.. Sep 28 18:08:50 Crofton: pong Sep 28 18:10:08 hey Sep 28 18:10:15 gumstix working ok? Sep 28 18:10:41 yep - booted up fine, just without networking, etc Sep 28 18:10:48 yeh Sep 28 18:10:57 modprobe smc91x I think Sep 28 18:11:44 I tried that and it failed? I'll try a fresh build and see what I get Sep 28 18:11:54 need to work what what the image default behavior should be Sep 28 18:11:54 since not everyone has a network Sep 28 18:11:57 I think you can edit /etc/interfaces Sep 28 18:12:01 hmm Sep 28 18:12:03 what network card? Sep 28 18:12:21 have you had a chance to look at the patches Craig was using for the gum kernel? Sep 28 18:12:31 we use most of them Sep 28 18:12:54 actually now that you say that, I have it connected to my wifi-cf, not a netstix with the smc chip Sep 28 18:13:05 I need to look again, because there is stuf for the netwifimicroSD card I do not have yet Sep 28 18:13:11 heh Sep 28 18:13:20 I have not tried any wifi stuff either Sep 28 18:13:35 the wifi driver is built as a separate package in the gumstix buildroot Sep 28 18:14:25 what is the driver? Sep 28 18:15:05 the module is mfc25.ko iirc... I'll have a look Sep 28 18:16:35 its mfc25.ko and cfio.ko - the chip is a marvell Sep 28 18:16:51 do you know what the package you need to build is? Sep 28 18:17:15 I am trying to figure out if we already have it, and if there are any patches we need to make it work Sep 28 18:17:26 from the gumstix buildroot it is the wifistix package Sep 28 18:17:34 urg Sep 28 18:17:52 I am pretty sure we do not have that :) Sep 28 18:18:05 I can tell you where the patches are in the buildroot Sep 28 18:18:12 if you have that checked out Sep 28 18:18:14 can we do this next week? Sep 28 18:18:26 I do, but I need to work on a project report due Sunday Sep 28 18:18:42 oh sure - Sep 28 18:18:58 After that, my workload gets much better Sep 28 18:19:05 I'm going to play with it a bit over the weekend, so I'll let you know if I make any progress Sep 28 18:19:05 my thesis needs some editing Sep 28 18:19:09 ok Sep 28 18:19:14 that would be awesome Sep 28 18:19:18 gotta love priorities Sep 28 18:19:22 we have OEDEM next weekend Sep 28 18:19:52 and I am taking the gumstix so maybe we can get more support going fo rnetwifimicroSD stick Sep 28 18:19:59 and the samsung display Sep 28 18:20:11 or, I go touristing and drink beer :) Sep 28 18:20:29 I don't have a verdex (yet) but I do have an alps lcd connected to my connex Sep 28 18:20:37 I always vote for drinking beer Sep 28 18:20:38 ok Sep 28 18:20:40 yeah Sep 28 18:20:49 especially when in that part of the world :) Sep 28 18:20:57 but I would like to see openmoko running on it Sep 28 18:21:23 thats kindof my motivation for switching from buildroot to oe Sep 28 18:21:30 openmoko? Sep 28 18:21:34 yep Sep 28 18:21:37 cool Sep 28 18:21:47 a lot of the openmoko hackers hang out here Sep 28 18:22:09 seems like a good fit for a gumstix Sep 28 18:22:14 yeah Sep 28 18:22:25 certainly for messing around the UI stuff Sep 28 18:22:52 need a gsm interface for gumstix Sep 28 18:23:16 I maintain a branch in the gumstix buildroot that builds x11r7 and matchbox and all, but why maintain that when there's stuff like openmoko Sep 28 18:23:45 hmm Sep 28 18:23:49 something just clicked Sep 28 18:23:54 http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=194 Sep 28 18:24:34 thats what I'm waiting for Sep 28 18:24:52 fascinating Sep 28 18:25:34 they were supposed to start shipping them in August, but you know how that goes Sep 28 18:25:54 yeah Sep 28 18:27:18 * Crofton wonders what the market for cell phone kits is Sep 28 19:20:01 is anyone using bitbake1.8 on dapper drake? Sep 28 19:38:42 Crofton: so you decided to go to OEDEM! Did the TT money come through? Sep 28 19:40:33 heh Sep 28 19:40:38 mickey|portugal, is on vacation Sep 28 19:40:45 we will work out something Sep 28 19:40:53 I found a cheap place to stay :) Sep 28 19:41:06 Ah, self funded with hope of reimbursement :-) Sep 28 19:41:12 thesis is also laregly written Sep 28 19:41:15 yeah Sep 28 19:41:18 Congrats! Sep 28 19:41:28 It should be a good meeting Sep 28 19:41:34 and I have never been there Sep 28 19:41:54 Berlin is a cool place, you will enjoy it Sep 28 19:42:00 scruggs, built an image for the gumstix from .dev Sep 28 19:42:10 Worked? Sep 28 19:42:10 he is trying to figure out wifi now Sep 28 19:42:12 yeah Sep 28 19:42:29 Craig doesn't have it in his branch yet Sep 28 19:42:32 he is interested in these Goliath boards Sep 28 19:42:55 I think he may have buitl from dev, took a couple of guys to find something bad in his local.conf Sep 28 19:43:10 I'm flashing a new angstrom now to the connex Sep 28 19:43:19 cool Sep 28 19:43:26 I'm still trying to track down all the bloat Sep 28 19:43:26 scruggs, sakoman is also a connec user Sep 28 19:43:30 thanks for the help with that, btw Sep 28 19:43:42 still getting up to speed on oe Sep 28 19:43:44 np Sep 28 19:44:03 task-base just isn't working out for me Sep 28 19:44:10 bloatwise? Sep 28 19:44:14 yes Sep 28 19:44:23 there have been some improvements Sep 28 19:44:36 this should come up at OEDEM Sep 28 19:44:40 task-base is not Sep 28 19:44:49 task-boot is too small Sep 28 19:44:53 task-base is too big Sep 28 19:44:54 it builds so much extra cruft that staging gets filled with stuff I don't really want there Sep 28 19:45:07 well, we are less concerned with build Sep 28 19:45:12 and more concerned with image .... Sep 28 19:45:18 And then config for the packages I do want pick up stuff that they shouldn't! Sep 28 19:45:57 Its more than just a build/install thng Sep 28 19:46:24 can you send some concrete examples to the list? Sep 28 19:46:31 I have :-) Sep 28 19:47:16 Been a week, so I'll have to recreate the examples Sep 28 19:47:21 I guess I need to look through the archives next week Sep 28 19:47:46 I will take the set Craig sent me to OEDEM Sep 28 19:47:58 we have a couple of days for hacking Sep 28 19:48:23 try to get the netwifimicroSD card support up to speed Sep 28 19:48:27 and maybe the display Sep 28 19:48:38 The basic issue is that task-base builds some packages that depend on a large number of libraries Sep 28 19:48:45 hrw is on his honeymoon also Sep 28 19:48:49 Those libraries end up in staging Sep 28 19:48:52 yeah Sep 28 19:49:14 one bad chain was split up in the week or so Sep 28 19:49:30 I noticed build time sped up noticeably Sep 28 19:49:46 And when other packages get built their config process picks up the existence of libs I don't want in my image Sep 28 19:50:00 But now they get included! Sep 28 19:50:31 hmmm Sep 28 19:50:50 something goes through the binaries and figures what libs they need Sep 28 19:51:00 anyway Sep 28 19:51:09 I need to write a report this weekend Sep 28 19:51:11 Monday Sep 28 19:51:24 So in order to prevent bloat I either need to not build those extra packages, or find a way to override the recipes for the packes I need so as to not detect the libs I don't want Sep 28 19:51:27 after Monday the gross writing tasks are over Sep 28 19:51:39 or figure out why they get into binaries Sep 28 19:51:41 and stop that Sep 28 19:51:50 next week Sep 28 19:52:07 give me an example and I wil try and duplicate Sep 28 19:52:31 Yeah, I find that I need to override the recipes to avoid the libs I don't want Sep 28 19:52:50 http://www.radiochallenge.org/ Sep 28 19:52:54 report due Sunday Sep 28 19:52:55 Basically patch the config.h to remove those libs Sep 28 19:52:59 yeah Sep 28 19:53:13 sakoman, you're building from .dev - not Craigs branch, right? Sep 28 19:53:32 bye guys, you are far more interesting than this report :) Sep 28 19:53:48 Well, sort of. I'm using .dev with lots of overrides using bitbake collections Sep 28 19:53:58 later Crofton Sep 28 19:54:18 ahh. what soft of overrides if you don't mind me asking :) Sep 28 19:54:22 Bye Crofton! Looks like a very cool challenge! Sep 28 19:54:48 yeah, too much unfunded work Sep 28 19:54:59 a lesson in project management :) Sep 28 19:55:16 sakoman, you are keeping local changes in collections? Sep 28 19:55:26 I will need to know what you think of that for OEDEM :) Sep 28 19:55:28 bye Sep 28 19:55:29 again Sep 28 19:55:33 scruggs: custom image, patches to various recipes to reduce the size Sep 28 19:56:11 Crofton: yes they are all in a separate org.sakoman.dev collection Sep 28 19:57:38 sakoman: I just finished setting up collections in my local.conf and was starting on an image - are you basing your image on an existing one? Sep 28 19:59:11 scruggs: not really. I started out with one that just included task-base and the packages required by my product Sep 28 19:59:33 But it ended up substantially larger than the buildroot version Sep 28 20:00:29 size will always be the enemy Sep 28 20:00:29 So I've been playing with subsetting task-base and overriding various package recipes to try to match the buildroot image size Sep 28 20:00:56 targeting 16MB connex? Sep 28 20:01:02 I'll get there, but it is not a pleasant process Sep 28 20:01:22 yes, and I need to keep about 10MB free for data Sep 28 20:01:33 ouch Sep 28 20:02:02 My buildroot version achieves that Sep 28 20:02:25 But I want packages for updates :-) Sep 28 20:02:42 same here :) Sep 28 20:03:12 I got used to ipkg with my zaurus - guess it spoiled me Sep 28 20:03:38 Yeah, it is a handy tool Sep 28 20:05:05 So I'll keep plugging away until I get the size down Sep 28 20:05:34 how far apart are the sizes generated by oe v. buildroot? Sep 28 20:06:11 Started out at a couple of MB larger Sep 28 20:06:43 whoa - so thats what you mean about task-base being bloated Sep 28 20:07:17 OE is just pulling in libs that buildroot doesn't -- an artifact of task-base building extra stuff that affects the config results of packages I want Sep 28 20:08:25 things like libiconv, libgettext, libstdc++ Sep 28 20:08:38 all quite hefty libs :-) Sep 28 20:10:21 yep - especially when you don't need them Sep 28 20:10:31 precisely! Sep 28 20:11:03 Still don't have wifi in the image yet either Sep 28 20:11:55 do you need wifi for your project? Sep 28 20:12:21 Yeah Sep 28 20:13:04 I'm going to have a shot at getting it working this weekend Sep 28 20:13:05 been making do with wired ethernet while I work on size (and hoping Craig does the work to port the Marvel driver to OE :_) Sep 28 20:13:29 Good luck! Sep 28 20:13:39 I'd be happy to test the result :-) Sep 28 20:14:14 I have a copy of Craig's oe branch so hopefully he gets to it before me and does the hard stuff ;) Sep 28 20:14:31 I'll definately let you know if/when it's working Sep 28 20:14:39 I have a copy too, but don't see anything there yet :-) Sep 28 20:15:23 yeah, I've had a look at it in buildroot and I don't think it'll be too tough to move over Sep 28 20:16:05 Best of luck! Got to run now. ttyl Sep 28 20:17:49 thx - take it easy Sep 28 20:18:19 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r740a26d7... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): Sep 28 20:18:19 sane-srcrevs.inc: Bump up libmokoui2 to a more recent SVN version as the current Sep 28 20:18:19 version version results in the ability to start the dialer, among other things. Sep 28 20:18:23 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r823abb62... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-openmoko-feed.bb): openmoko-feed: add kexec-tools to the list of available packages. Sep 28 23:14:27 Hey all Sep 28 23:14:41 Is something like 1.0A-B a valid version string, for a package for ipkg? Sep 29 00:06:46 Anyone know why if I have a manual do_install() rule do_populate_staging won't populate anything? Sep 29 00:07:06 I've got a FILES_${PN} += "..." for what I'm manually cp'ing to ${D}/.... Sep 29 00:26:15 shit **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 29 02:59:56 2007