**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 09 02:59:56 2007 Oct 09 06:56:35 hi, please help me solve this: http://rafb.net/p/OuBEte73.html Oct 09 06:57:07 I run bitbake virtual/kernel -cconfigure Oct 09 07:02:51 ok, I will wait for the OE ppl to wake up then Oct 09 07:04:08 cbrake: you don't need to do ramdisk off if you didn't do save when you booted on the ramdisk Oct 09 07:16:53 anyone that knows if the maemo distro in oe is maintained and kept up-to-date compared with Nokia's maemo releases? Oct 09 07:50:50 good morning Oct 09 07:57:34 good morning all Oct 09 08:03:17 hrw|gone: http://jorisvanalphen.nl/images/20060401185154_bakfiets_bank-2.jpg Oct 09 08:06:02 did someone think about providing pre-compiled packages for angstrom to avoid building them again ? Oct 09 08:07:20 nud: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ Oct 09 08:07:53 stefan_schmidt: no conference cold (yet) Oct 09 08:09:18 morning Oct 09 08:19:06 morning Oct 09 08:26:08 hrw: hi, is the oe confrence over? Oct 09 08:26:34 niv_one_three: dont be silly, we are all at the conference and still chatting to each other on IRC :-D Oct 09 08:29:11 I run bitbake virtual/kernel -cconfigure and got this: http://rafb.net/p/OuBEte73.html Oct 09 08:29:18 hi zecke! Oct 09 08:29:27 any idea why it failed? Oct 09 08:29:59 ljp: ping Oct 09 08:31:03 good morning Oct 09 08:34:47 XorA: hi there Oct 09 08:44:09 koen: can you use it for the build ? Oct 09 08:44:54 if so I would be really pleased to avoid 24h building everytime Oct 09 08:46:00 mickeyl: Good to hear. Perhaps you can come around it this time. (Must be that you do not share a room with zecke anymore *hide*) Oct 09 08:46:20 hehe Oct 09 08:46:21 right Oct 09 08:46:27 but he's quite healthy atm. Oct 09 08:47:08 mickeyl: Good Oct 09 08:47:12 ~hail zecke Oct 09 08:47:12 * ibot bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 09 08:47:15 morning Oct 09 08:47:20 XorA: do you have Zaurus charger? Oct 09 08:47:26 hrw: yes Oct 09 08:47:26 morning Oct 09 08:47:31 finally made it :-) Oct 09 08:47:39 So, OEDEM already in progress again? Oct 09 08:48:21 not yet Oct 09 08:48:35 we are waiting for mickeyl to take the chair again Oct 09 08:48:58 someone is currently playing strange music Oct 09 08:49:04 cool music Oct 09 08:49:17 mmh Oct 09 08:49:23 ulitu: lol Oct 09 08:49:23 wouldn't quite put it that way Oct 09 08:49:33 * Crofton hates reggae :) Oct 09 08:49:34 20 sconds left Oct 09 08:49:39 at least we have an important topic Oct 09 08:49:42 tick tick Oct 09 08:49:45 lets start @ 11.15 Oct 09 08:49:48 ok Oct 09 08:49:52 okay Oct 09 08:49:52 want to get something finished here Oct 09 08:50:08 :) Oct 09 08:51:10 ok, war it is Oct 09 08:52:16 http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/ Oct 09 08:53:00 and I will loose in that war - only one speaker in my laptop Oct 09 08:53:24 i2cdetect does not seem to find anything, but it scrolled off the top .... Oct 09 08:54:06 HELP ME IM IN HELL Oct 09 08:54:27 XorA: I am closer to that crap called german music.. Oct 09 08:54:46 XorA: funny I can't see you nearby Oct 09 08:55:00 he is next to me Oct 09 08:55:29 * flo_lap cries Oct 09 08:55:52 three dead trolls in a baggie Oct 09 08:56:04 heh Oct 09 08:56:21 * stefan_schmidt tunes into classical internet radio Oct 09 08:58:07 mickeyl: hi can you post a bit on your blog, about what goes down in the conference? Oct 09 08:58:25 niv_one_three: read planet.linuxtogo.org Oct 09 08:58:30 niv_one_three: read planet.linuxtogo.org, there are quite some posts already Oct 09 08:58:31 may anyone help my fial in using bitbake? Oct 09 08:58:32 XorA: what is wrong with hell? Oct 09 08:58:52 * XorA wonders if he should turn on the Scottish music Oct 09 08:59:07 I run bitbake virtual/kernel -cconfigure and got this: http://rafb.net/p/OuBEte73.html Oct 09 08:59:07 XorA: can't be worse than what we already heared ;) Oct 09 08:59:11 most likely better Oct 09 08:59:38 XorA: that is music? Oct 09 08:59:51 oh no I think he is going to sing Oct 09 09:00:01 zecke: its part of a comedy sketch Oct 09 09:00:06 * nud still wonders why the hell console-image brings most of the X libraries Oct 09 09:00:46 niv_one_three: what goes on? we recently listened to http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showpost.php?s=d204fe887a9a87ebfd6658882d9bafc8&p=1208658&postcount=6665 Oct 09 09:00:55 * XorA creates more hell Oct 09 09:01:43 so, is it possible to use precompiled packages for OE compilation ? Oct 09 09:01:45 Henryk, thanks Oct 09 09:07:12 Crofton: While planet.linuxtogo.org is on topic: You should try Currywurst in Berlin... it was invented here :) Oct 09 09:08:19 (actually the best currywurst you can get in rostock) Oct 09 09:09:09 hehe Oct 09 09:18:23 mickeyl: your late Oct 09 09:18:31 two minutes late Oct 09 09:18:32 right Oct 09 09:18:42 3 minutes Oct 09 09:18:45 * mickeyl fires the projector Oct 09 09:23:32 do_TASK[depends] SUXX Oct 09 09:24:46 ok, I see you are all busy in the conrenrence, I will try asking about the bitbake issue later Oct 09 09:25:15 this was the first time I used bitbake, and hoped it would all work well Oct 09 09:25:45 this is as I use a 2Gb pc with plentty of hard disk space Oct 09 09:26:12 cool, three people typing minutes simultaneously Oct 09 09:26:54 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=chapter_comparing Oct 09 09:28:55 people type faster than me Oct 09 09:28:57 error: pack-objects died with strange error Oct 09 09:29:03 WTF.... Oct 09 09:29:16 hi all Oct 09 09:29:31 I am still at home. preparing things for the dinner etc Oct 09 09:29:42 but will soon leave for OEDEM Oct 09 09:30:05 here is a map that shows you how to get to the dinner: Oct 09 09:30:06 http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~rschuste/oedem-dinner.jpeg Oct 09 09:30:32 rschuster: hey Oct 09 09:30:40 I will have 4 printouts with me Oct 09 09:30:42 hi rschuster Oct 09 09:30:44 hi ze Oct 09 09:30:46 404 Oct 09 09:30:48 hi zecke Oct 09 09:31:09 http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rschuste/oedem-dinner.jpeg ? Oct 09 09:31:23 ... ;) Oct 09 09:31:47 zecke: does it work? Oct 09 09:32:16 zecke pasted "git... " at http://paste.lisp.org/display/48893 Oct 09 09:32:29 rschuster: ;) yeah.... :} Oct 09 09:33:19 zecke: powered by GIMP, Debian and OpenStreetmap :) Oct 09 09:35:39 rschuster: openstreetmap will even have Novalisstraße soon. (it's already in the osmarender map, but not yet in the mapnik map) Oct 09 09:36:51 Henryk: hey thanks. I already thought about how to report this bug :) Oct 09 09:38:31 * rschuster leaving ... see you soon Oct 09 09:42:34 http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/using-openembedded-toolchains-in-scratchbox Oct 09 09:48:49 http://www.scatechnica.com/news.html Oct 09 09:50:16 koen: I am just reading the OEDEM minutes, about toolchains, we choose to use http://www.codesourcery.com for all components that are not rootfs related. Oct 09 09:50:46 ah, the harry potter toolchains ;) Oct 09 09:50:58 grrr, not the press release I was looking for Oct 09 09:51:18 stunned silence at OEDEM Oct 09 09:53:23 http://pastebin.ca/730540 Oct 09 09:53:34 this is a bit of a silly release Oct 09 09:58:22 koen: but we do not use a libc to compile bootloaders and kernel... anyway, thumb-2, EABI, not too bad... (harry potter, why ?) Oct 09 10:01:30 koen: 4th search phrase for OE website is 'tslib' Oct 09 10:04:08 someone wants to fsck my git-tree? Oct 09 10:06:49 he Oct 09 10:06:55 hi woglinde, hi Philippe Oct 09 10:07:04 eh Oct 09 10:07:08 hi pvanhoof Oct 09 10:07:09 flo whats with lunch today? Oct 09 10:07:11 hey flo_lap Oct 09 10:07:18 I will now travel to oedem Oct 09 10:07:38 but want to manage that your are there and not on lunch Oct 09 10:07:49 or I will join lunch Oct 09 10:08:12 woglinde: how long does it take you? Oct 09 10:08:16 hwey Oct 09 10:08:38 flo nearly one hour to 40 minutes Oct 09 10:08:52 mickeyl: It's done... how must I send you? I mean, which email? Oct 09 10:09:00 ah zecke is answering now Oct 09 10:11:40 bye till later Oct 09 10:11:43 vivijim: just send it to zecke :) Oct 09 10:11:44 at oedem Oct 09 10:12:17 git-clone http://openembedded.org/~zecke/git/oe/openembedded-git/.git and git doesn't work.... Oct 09 10:12:41 koen: give me your google account name and you will get access to OE website stats Oct 09 10:13:40 zecke: it is in your inbox... Oct 09 10:14:03 vivijim: thanks Oct 09 10:14:43 zecke: note that I'm not really sure about the last (and separeted) line... ;) Oct 09 10:22:49 zecke: fscking... Oct 09 10:23:26 Shoragan: PRSCVL in ADCCON seems to be how to slow the ADC conversion speed. you could try increasing it to see if it makes stability better Oct 09 10:23:54 XorA, thanks Oct 09 10:24:21 * XorA goes to look at source to see what we set it to Oct 09 10:25:59 Shoragan: is you GTA booted so you can check what PCLK is? Oct 09 10:26:19 how can i check it at runtime? Oct 09 10:26:29 Shoragan: its in boot messages Oct 09 10:26:36 Shoragan: top of dmesg Oct 09 10:27:04 I think its approx 50Mhz Oct 09 10:29:44 does any know how to use printascii with a current kernel? Oct 09 10:32:17 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/usermanual.pdf Oct 09 10:40:38 zecke: it gets stuck in 'Getting pack 1089a1729f299fe2aa079c447f6cd86640e6e19a' Oct 09 10:48:59 time to kill Neo sound Oct 09 10:50:59 that should actually be pretty easy. i think two small pieces of paper between the board and the speakers should suffice Oct 09 11:06:00 it seems too much Club Mate was consumed last year and no-one can remeber it Oct 09 11:06:33 last year afri-cola was all the rage Oct 09 11:26:41 just in case anyone finds this useful... wrote a little python proggy to deal with downloading/flashing kernel&rootfs/booting on the compulab boards : http://www.xuanfengjiao.de:~/serupload.py Oct 09 11:34:04 zecke: finished, but with error - cat: /home/pjoter/data/oe-git/.git/refs/remotes/origin/master: No such file or directory Oct 09 11:34:07 fatal: : not a valid SHA1 Oct 09 11:34:09 fatal: Not a valid object name HEAD Oct 09 11:41:59 ~spell statues Oct 09 11:42:01 'statues' may be spelled correctly Oct 09 11:42:34 ~spell statutes Oct 09 11:42:35 'statutes' may be spelled correctly Oct 09 11:43:09 hey mallum Oct 09 11:44:06 hey koen Oct 09 11:46:33 koen gets desperate for money Oct 09 11:46:59 for a passport Oct 09 11:47:54 schumacher@kde.org Oct 09 11:48:00 * Crofton wonders what we will read about in the paper about the guy the who uses the passport Oct 09 11:48:05 and for new wallet Oct 09 11:55:30 Crofton: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ballmer_peak.png Oct 09 11:57:26 haha Oct 09 11:57:30 koen, nice one Oct 09 11:59:00 why does my dropbear installation not let me in with authorized keys ?? Oct 09 11:59:20 http://pizdaus.com/pics/fW8RyEXiW3aZ.jpg ;]] Oct 09 11:59:31 there was at least some dropbear which needed to have the authorized key in /etc. otherwise: check rights Oct 09 12:00:41 Henryk, i did put them also at /etc/dropbear and home/root/.ssh/ Oct 09 12:01:32 if there is an earthquake in berlin its my stomach Oct 09 12:01:58 Dropbear sshd v0.49 (on openmoko) works for me with /home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys, with chmod -R go-rwx /home/root/.ssh Oct 09 12:04:02 XorA: you just had a solid breakfast didn't you? Oct 09 12:04:17 XorA: we might have lunch right after the infrastructure section Oct 09 12:04:19 mickeyl: Ive already processed that Oct 09 12:04:27 *rumble* Oct 09 12:04:28 mickeyl: 3 meals a day or I complain Oct 09 12:04:32 do you have a tapeworm? Oct 09 12:04:33 4 is better Oct 09 12:06:05 gerwinin: morning Oct 09 12:06:19 gerwinin: hey Oct 09 12:06:33 gerwinin: we will get food, I will be in Eindhoven on the Friday Oct 09 12:06:46 fooooodddd Oct 09 12:09:39 hrw: morning Oct 09 12:09:46 zecke: cool ! Oct 09 12:14:14 what's the diff between bitbake's DEPENDS and RDEPENDS ? Oct 09 12:14:34 DEPENDS is for build, RDEPENDS is for run Oct 09 12:14:41 (if I understood correctly ;-)) Oct 09 12:16:06 makes sense. Oct 09 12:21:44 Henryk, it works to use a rsa key from ssh host to log into drobear units .. but logging from dropbear to dropbear doesnt work for me ?? Oct 09 12:23:01 (Eindhoven btw? I live there :) Oct 09 12:40:48 hmm it just doenst work ot get dropbear to dropbear key logins .. what the heck Oct 09 12:42:58 cbrake, there? Oct 09 12:46:00 rob_w: for my openmoko, no port 22 at all :( Oct 09 12:50:38 gilligan_: good morning! Oct 09 12:50:56 cbrake '] Oct 09 12:52:08 cbrake, i see the compulab stuff has been reorganized a bit Oct 09 12:53:37 cbrake, hm..say wouldn't it be convenient to have a link to the latest kernel build in the deploy dir ? like there are for the rootfs images Oct 09 12:55:30 rob_w: hmm, I never tried to do that Oct 09 12:55:33 rob_w: dropbear -> any needs giving key are argument iirc Oct 09 12:56:23 gilligan_: yes, that would be useful for scripts Oct 09 12:56:40 gilligan_: yes, we have done some massive cleanup Oct 09 12:56:58 gilligan_: can you test the new NAND eraseblock size setting in cm-x270.conf? Oct 09 12:58:06 gilligan_: I also wrote up the install procedure -- let me know if anything is incorrect: http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/82/9/ Oct 09 12:58:07 cbrake, yep..in a moment Oct 09 13:00:09 nud: thanks for the suggestion about "ramdisk off". I put that in the howto just to be explicit -- more to make a point. Oct 09 13:01:40 zImage-cm-x270.bin zImage-cm-x270.cmx270 are ok for symlinks?\ Oct 09 13:09:19 hrw: sounds good to me Oct 09 13:13:11 gerwinin: hi Oct 09 13:18:22 cbrake: testing now Oct 09 13:18:42 * steliosk_|oedem slaps steliosk|OEDEM around a bit with a large trout Oct 09 13:20:05 * * OE Bug 3134 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Oct 09 13:20:07 * * apmd-3.2.2-r8-do_compile Oct 09 13:20:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3134 Oct 09 13:21:11 bye guys have a nice oedem (and a nice dinner) Oct 09 13:21:49 bye Oct 09 13:22:11 see you Oct 09 13:29:51 koen: cbrake offered an autobuilder as well Oct 09 13:31:33 flo_lap: I missed your numbers for the minutes Oct 09 13:31:55 500-70-GByte/mounth Oct 09 13:31:56 good news for you. The deutsche Bahn will not strike on Oct 10th Oct 09 13:31:58 month Oct 09 13:32:04 alphaone: yay! Oct 09 13:32:25 do you have your papers back yet? Oct 09 13:32:29 nope Oct 09 13:32:46 bummer Oct 09 13:32:50 indeed Oct 09 13:33:57 xora, can i reflash the rootfs? Oct 09 13:34:46 Shoragan: yes Oct 09 13:35:58 cbrake, tried that little python proggy I wrote? Oct 09 13:36:14 gilligan_: not yet :-) Oct 09 13:36:48 gilligan_: what python proggy ? Oct 09 13:37:12 gilligan_: for some reason I can't download it -- just comes up with a blank page Oct 09 13:38:01 huh.. oh Oct 09 13:38:05 hang on ;] Oct 09 13:40:12 that is.. interesting.. to say the least Oct 09 13:40:13 ;] Oct 09 13:41:16 www.xuanfengjiao.de/test.txt Oct 09 13:41:28 grab that one Oct 09 13:41:54 nud, just a small script that automates downloading&flashing kernels&rootfs on the compulab boards Oct 09 13:42:08 gilligan_: and, obviously, this interests me Oct 09 13:42:10 ;-) Oct 09 13:44:32 gilligan_: interesting Oct 09 13:44:42 koen: could you email me the flowchart for the ui Oct 09 13:44:57 gilligan_: no NAND support yet ? Oct 09 13:45:33 steliosk_|oedem: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE-gui-flow.pdf Oct 09 13:45:56 nud, armmon doesn't even allow for that or does it? Oct 09 13:46:15 it does Oct 09 13:46:34 oops :) Oct 09 13:46:35 but usually we do it through booting on the ramdisk and using mtdtools from there Oct 09 13:46:44 well yes Oct 09 13:46:57 neither cbrake nor me tested it through ARMon Oct 09 13:47:27 and as i learned most of the compulab stuff through cbrake : neither do i Oct 09 13:47:28 ;] Oct 09 13:47:57 but while you are at it ... ;-) Oct 09 13:48:06 hehe,sure i can look at that Oct 09 13:48:12 the relevant armmon command is nand write iirc Oct 09 13:49:07 nud: have you ever tried writing jffs2 images to nand with the cm-x270 bootloader? Oct 09 13:49:08 also feel free to point out any do-not's in my python code.. i'm a python noob.. ;] Oct 09 13:49:15 cbrake: no Oct 09 13:49:34 do_stage() { Oct 09 13:49:34 autotools_stage_all Oct 09 13:49:34 } Oct 09 13:49:38 KeyError: 'do_stage' Oct 09 13:49:40 wtf ? Oct 09 13:49:45 nud: probably should one of these days -- it may just work. I got scared off by the "format stuff" ... Oct 09 13:50:15 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd3 works fine even without the -j switch btw Oct 09 13:50:26 cbrake: I told gilligan_ to do so ;-) Oct 09 13:50:54 nud: does -j write clear markers? Oct 09 13:51:14 I don't know Oct 09 13:51:15 nud: if so, that would speed up the first mount if jffs2 did not have to scan every block to determine what is erased. Oct 09 13:51:31 I said "it works", not "it works better" ;-) Oct 09 13:51:43 nud: that is my best guess, but I don't know for sure :-) Oct 09 13:52:02 I would prefer a slower boot and updating through a script than booting quicker but having to do everything manually ;-) Oct 09 13:52:56 hrw, you where right .. i do need to use -i identiy_file !! thanks for that hint that made the difference Oct 09 13:53:01 cbrake/nud: can I somehow invoke only the do_compulab_image() event without having to rebuild the kernel image via -crebuild when i want to test something ? Oct 09 13:53:48 depends what you want to test Oct 09 13:53:56 but I've never updated the kernel Oct 09 13:54:00 nor do I rebuild it Oct 09 13:54:37 gilligan_: bitbake virtual/kernel -c listtasks (figure out which one you want) Oct 09 13:54:54 gilligan_: and then bitbake virtual/kernel -c Oct 09 13:55:03 cbrake, ah..wonderful..thanks Oct 09 13:55:54 the -f flag might be worth to set Oct 09 13:56:05 gilligan_: nud Compulab has just confirmed they are still using SLC NAND flash, and don't have any plans yet to switch to MLC. Oct 09 13:56:10 morning Oct 09 13:56:12 nud: good point Oct 09 13:56:23 mmh MLC SLC ? Oct 09 13:56:36 multilevel, single level Oct 09 13:56:45 and what does it affect ? Oct 09 13:56:49 mlc = 10k write cycles, slc = 100k write cycles Oct 09 13:56:51 * nud such a noob Oct 09 13:57:11 mlc stores more than one bit per cell Oct 09 13:57:16 koen: hmm, my tinderclient doesn't work anymore :} Oct 09 13:57:37 zecke: and seppuku doesn't attach logs anymore Oct 09 13:59:52 eck, my package doesn't populate staging anymore Oct 09 14:00:10 * nud doesn't understand Oct 09 14:00:21 do_stage() { Oct 09 14:00:21 autotools_stage_all Oct 09 14:00:21 } Oct 09 14:00:28 hmm, interesting. Indeed, "bitbake -k kphonepi sofia-sip linphone" does an endless loop in (openmoko distribution) Oct 09 14:00:37 ^-- this is ok for populating with autotools isn't it ? Oct 09 14:02:56 git-clone http://openembedded.org/~zecke/git/oe/openembedded-git/.git ah it completed! Oct 09 14:03:10 Henryk: kdepimpi, kphonepi, pwmpi are non-maintained Oct 09 14:04:36 hrw: yeah, I just wanted to build all sip clients and try them again. (minisip doesn't even start to build :) Oct 09 14:04:50 still, bitbake shouldn't try to execute the same task over and over Oct 09 14:08:57 zecke: how big is the git pack? Oct 09 14:09:23 ulitu: no idea :) Oct 09 14:11:10 Henryk: -k == --i-do-not-care Oct 09 14:11:12 ;) Oct 09 14:11:47 my Python experience grows ;D Oct 09 14:12:39 hrw: -k == "compile all top level targets that go through, ignore the others" (or at least that's what the documentation says). E.g. that what I wanted to express: give me all the sip clients whose compile goes through, I won't care about the others Oct 09 14:14:24 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1880 Oct 09 14:15:44 cbrake: I am pushing something for you Oct 09 14:16:13 lrwxrwxrwx 1 hrw hrw 43 Oct 9 16:10 tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-cm-x270.bin -> zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009140944.bin Oct 09 14:16:16 lrwxrwxrwx 1 hrw hrw 46 Oct 9 16:10 tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-cm-x270.cmx270 -> zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009140944.cmx270 Oct 09 14:17:44 hrw: thanks! Oct 09 14:18:03 hrw, i am a bit slow.. just did the same Oct 09 14:18:03 ;] Oct 09 14:18:41 hrw, did you also just added the code to the do_compulab_image() task ? Oct 09 14:18:48 s/added/add Oct 09 14:18:49 gilligan_: yes Oct 09 14:18:52 brb Oct 09 14:19:52 cbrake, actually I was just thinking.. maybe it shouldn't be zImage-cm-x270.cmx270 but rather something like zImage-cm-x270.usblink Oct 09 14:20:05 cbrake, the latter is more obvious and less redundant Oct 09 14:20:12 so, when I am compiling xserver-kdrive now, I get an error where it has included /usr/include/drm to the compile. is there a way to get rid of this without removing tmp (I did a bitbake -crebuild xserver-kdrive) and it still does it. Oct 09 14:20:55 gilligan_: you also use the *.cmx270 images when programming them using mtd utils -- ex: cat kernel.cmx270 > /dev/mtd2 Oct 09 14:21:00 if [ -d ${STAGE_TEMP}/${datadir}/aclocal ]; then Oct 09 14:21:13 is there a reason for this line in autotools_stage_all() (autotools.class) Oct 09 14:21:30 instead of a more generic ${STAGE_TEMP}/${datadir} ? Oct 09 14:21:42 cbrake, oops Oct 09 14:22:24 gilligan_: maybe *.cmx270-hack would be more appropriate :-) Oct 09 14:23:07 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdab300ab... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux.inc): linux: provide symlink to lastest kernel image built Oct 09 14:23:12 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0a4d4659... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux_2.6.22.bb): linux 2.6.22: provide symlink to latest kernel image built for Compulab CM-X270 board Oct 09 14:23:18 hrw, koen: any idea ? Oct 09 14:23:38 nope, sorry Oct 09 14:24:04 it's breaking for me since I have something to install into staging in /usr/share Oct 09 14:24:19 cbrake, yeah well.. dunno.. none of the alternatives look very pleasing hehe.. ah well.. not that it's a major issue.. Oct 09 14:24:21 ah git-repack -a -f -d worked :) Oct 09 14:24:37 I guess this is because sometimes you want to install libs that are in a source tree with a program Oct 09 14:27:20 nud: what if datadir exists but aclocal is not? Oct 09 14:28:00 I think that .cmx270 is enough to mark that this is really machine specific Oct 09 14:28:12 hrw: http://rafb.net/p/lLidzk53.html <-- the function contents Oct 09 14:28:42 it copies into staging the include files, the .la and relevant .so files, and aclocal Oct 09 14:29:02 on my own, I have .mak files in share/$lib/make Oct 09 14:29:15 nud: and it does not want to copy /usr/share/man so it do it like it does Oct 09 14:29:24 nud: then add that into your own do_stage() Oct 09 14:29:26 I guess for compilation, the so and h files are enough in most cases Oct 09 14:29:43 zecke: Oct 09 14:29:43 $ du -s .git/ Oct 09 14:29:43 94580 .git/ Oct 09 14:30:02 hrw: yeah, no problem, I just care about understanding why things are done this way Oct 09 14:31:53 hrw: kismet doesnt use wireless tools Oct 09 14:34:28 hrw, well given that "cm-x270" is included in the basename of the file makes it pretty clear that kernel is for the compulab hardware.. zImage makes it clear that it is a kernel.. the .bin ending = normal kernel image .. but the purpose of the .cmx270 file is not obvious. that's why i thought it could perhaps get a different name.. but I guess it'd be fine to just add some comments on this somewhere Oct 09 14:34:52 kismet users will end up in gitmo Oct 09 14:35:27 XorA: it was example Oct 09 14:35:39 koen: Apart from the fact that it would be a nice compile cluster note the name: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140164891341 Oct 09 14:35:49 hrw: examples should be good though :-D otherwise people put them in wikis Oct 09 14:35:51 gilligan_: Cliff started using .cmx270 ;) Oct 09 14:36:00 XorA: mockumentation? Oct 09 14:36:06 hrw, right.. Oct 09 14:36:06 gilligan_, cbrake: what about .mtdtools ? Oct 09 14:36:08 hrw: yup Oct 09 14:36:11 * gilligan_ points fingers at cliff Oct 09 14:36:12 ;] Oct 09 14:37:55 nud: but, you can also use the *.cmx270 files for the usblink utility :-) Oct 09 14:38:34 * cbrake started out as using *.img file names which was really bad, and then progressed to *.cmx270 ... Oct 09 14:38:37 that's why I originally suggested .usblink .. that's when cbrake brought my intention to mtd ... :) Oct 09 14:38:56 * cbrake notices a circular pattern :-) Oct 09 14:39:01 *.foobar ? Oct 09 14:39:04 * gilligan_ hides Oct 09 14:39:05 :) Oct 09 14:42:31 @łe¶ŧ←↓→øþæßðđŋħjĸł«»¢“”nµ· Oct 09 14:42:35 as possiblities Oct 09 14:42:51 ??? Oct 09 14:42:57 ¹²³€½¾{[]} Oct 09 14:42:58 of for the days when you had to edit the kernel source from the Finnish keymap to the English one ..... Oct 09 14:43:04 ♿ maybe? Oct 09 14:43:07 Oct 09 14:43:48 http://www.openembedded.org/~zecke/git/oe/ *finally* Oct 09 14:44:04 zecke, \o/ Oct 09 14:44:30 * chouimat is scared Oct 09 14:44:49 * hrw grabs git tree Oct 09 14:45:19 * chouimat thinks the world is gitting nuts about git :) Oct 09 14:48:21 git, git, git! :-) Oct 09 14:48:49 sux sux sux! ;D Oct 09 14:49:01 * chouimat hates git ... Oct 09 14:49:02 food fight? Oct 09 14:51:19 * alphaone throws a pumpkin at hrw Oct 09 15:02:35 hrw pasted "git fetcher update" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/48908 Oct 09 15:05:59 zecke: do you plan to set up a 'real' git server? Oct 09 15:06:34 ulitu: with the git protocol? rsync? Oct 09 15:06:40 git protocol Oct 09 15:06:49 I don't have any hosting Oct 09 15:06:54 repo.or.cz Oct 09 15:06:59 I see :-( Oct 09 15:07:22 nud: right, people can just mirror my http source Oct 09 15:07:44 zecke: then you probably should not repack on the server Oct 09 15:08:01 zecke: actually you could just open a repository on repo.or.cz and clone your repo there Oct 09 15:08:04 otherwise people will be downloading the whole pack every time, right? Oct 09 15:08:58 ulitu: right :) Oct 09 15:09:13 ulitu: but I had to do git-repack -a -f -d after git-fast-import, now I need to toy with window? Oct 09 15:09:48 zecke: window? Oct 09 15:09:55 windows? Oct 09 15:10:15 just drop mtn and use git instead :p Oct 09 15:10:37 ewwww Oct 09 15:11:29 * chouimat would prefers bzr to git Oct 09 15:12:59 I would prefer rcs Oct 09 15:13:18 * XorA prefers SCCS Oct 09 15:13:29 * chouimat likes svn,bzr and hg :) Oct 09 15:16:49 ljp: ping Oct 09 15:16:59 ulitu: why do you want to have a git-server? Oct 09 15:17:44 zecke: I thought it'd be a good idea to be able to only download what is needed on pull Oct 09 15:18:07 zecke: and still get packages and not single files Oct 09 15:18:08 http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE-gui-flow.pdf Oct 09 15:18:51 zecke: you could probably still find a decent package size Oct 09 15:18:58 and keep using http Oct 09 15:20:13 koen: is tinderclient and seppuku enabled by default in angstrom? Oct 09 15:20:21 koen: found my answer Oct 09 15:20:24 zecke: no Oct 09 15:20:32 zecke: it only has sane defaults for it Oct 09 15:20:56 koen: well, sane is in overriding my stuff from local.conf? Oct 09 15:25:56 mickeyl: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyFeedRead Oct 09 15:28:45 are there still proprietary parts needed for linux on n770 ? Oct 09 15:29:48 ofcourse Oct 09 15:30:04 nud: but it depends what you mean by linux Oct 09 15:30:18 if you can live without wifi then iirc you can be free Oct 09 15:30:35 well, a n770 without wifi is not a real n770 Oct 09 15:30:56 are those proprietary parts included when building maemo or angstrom from OE ? Oct 09 15:31:21 or poky, fwiw Oct 09 15:31:30 do not remember Oct 09 15:31:39 ok I'll check when I have time Oct 09 15:32:04 cbrake, nud: by the way.. just now I recalled what fun i had when (before i was using OE) I at some point tried to write stuff to nand using the bootloader ... Oct 09 15:32:06 nud: You can include them if you build things yourself Oct 09 15:32:30 gilligan_: I tried scratchbox too ;-) Oct 09 15:32:53 cbrake, nud: the tftp client is weird.. it wouldn't work with any of the tftp servers I could find when the file size exceeds some limit Oct 09 15:33:11 ah ? I had no problem here Oct 09 15:33:28 scarebox Oct 09 15:33:50 nud, and you've "big" files ? like 100MB or whatever ? Oct 09 15:34:12 nud, s/you've/you've uploaded Oct 09 15:34:22 * cbrake tried scratchbox for the n770, but did not have time to figure it out -- seems like a lot of manual setup, but perhaps what you are used to ... Oct 09 15:34:22 suxxbox? Oct 09 15:34:30 well, the biggest I've used is the provided debian archive Oct 09 15:34:34 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r57d49691... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): contrib/mtn2git: mtn add is not recursive by default, actually add files ;) Oct 09 15:34:35 the one with hard FPU Oct 09 15:34:58 which makes you feel like on a SX40 when you're using a 500MHz ARM processor Oct 09 15:35:30 gilligan_: you could try scp as well, but I could not get scp to work in angstrom-minimal-image Oct 09 15:36:29 I use wget and boa Oct 09 15:36:44 (boa is a damn simple http server I use on the compilation box) Oct 09 15:36:47 well I have to go Oct 09 15:36:49 later Oct 09 15:37:32 cbrake, well no.. tftp works fine.. the problem is the tftp client inside the compulab bootloader Oct 09 15:37:52 gilligan_: ahh, I thought you were talking about busybox tftp client -- sorry Oct 09 15:38:11 gilligan_: yes, I remember hitting some kind of limit as well at one point Oct 09 15:38:29 cbrake, that limit was specified in the original tftp protocol Oct 09 15:38:56 cbrake, however that was later modified, some extension was added (see RFCs..) Oct 09 15:39:43 cbrake, but it seems like the compulab client does some odd stuff.. only the windows tftp server suggested by compulab seems to work Oct 09 15:40:07 gilligan_: bleh Oct 09 15:40:20 but using a windows sharware tftp server doesn't exactly fit into my integration plans hehe Oct 09 15:42:09 ulitu: which model of ROAD you have? Oct 09 15:44:10 hrw: s101 Oct 09 15:44:13 thx Oct 09 15:44:56 added code to test if armmon is responding to my upload tool .. cbrake&nud: if you would like to test it later on I could perhaps add it to /contrib ? (http://www.xuanfengjiao.de/cmx270_upload.txt <-- for some reason i have to rename it to .txt on the server...) Oct 09 15:57:17 (updated again) Oct 09 16:00:05 http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware has some machines with 2Mb flash Oct 09 16:14:07 ut oh, I better hide Oct 09 16:14:48 * XorA sees his workload increasing Oct 09 16:19:20 XorA: We planned 80h/week for you, like harald. Fine? Oct 09 16:19:25 init-ng Oct 09 16:21:22 stefan|umts: heh heh, better start posting me Mate then Oct 09 16:21:46 mate junkies Oct 09 16:23:44 * XorA hasnt had Mate Oct 09 16:25:43 http://wiki.debian.org/HackFests/Init Oct 09 16:27:14 Mate will make you wild Oct 09 16:27:29 XorA: Good reminder. We still need a channel to .tw . Could go over uk :) Oct 09 16:28:04 * XorA is sure stinky tofu would keep you awake Oct 09 16:29:28 XorA: :D Oct 09 16:31:17 gilligan_: pexpect might be a nice addition to your script Oct 09 16:31:55 gilligan_: I would go ahead and put it in contrib Oct 09 16:33:59 does it build? Oct 09 16:34:08 heck, does it BLEND! Oct 09 16:34:27 don't be so elitist Oct 09 16:34:29 * Crofton is coming unglued Oct 09 16:36:04 XorA: stinking tofu from Miss Wu? Oct 09 16:36:05 cbrake, pexpect to control which terminal software? Oct 09 16:37:00 ulitu: sei kein mathematiker ;) Oct 09 16:37:00 gilligan_: I guess that is overkill because you don't have to launch a program -- sorry, nevermind Oct 09 16:37:45 zecke: but i am! ;-) Oct 09 16:37:58 what can i do? Oct 09 16:38:50 packages that build/don\t build in oplinux Oct 09 16:38:53 http://rafb.net/p/ULib3M88.html Oct 09 16:43:02 cbrake, ;] Oct 09 16:51:39 * XorA sees more work Oct 09 16:51:52 * flo_lap too Oct 09 16:59:13 flo_lap: xserver session scripts probably benefit from init work which I suspect is my job, they use similar functions Oct 09 17:00:10 XorA: yes, that's true... Oct 09 17:09:58 33% of battery == 11 minutes ;( Oct 09 17:11:13 bye Oct 09 18:28:07 anyone using ANGSTROM_MODE="uclibc" for THUMB ? Oct 09 19:51:19 wheee -- cbrake tries his first mixed glibc/ucblic multimachine build :-) Oct 09 22:02:11 hi Oct 09 22:08:40 re Oct 10 01:10:04 * * OE Bug 3136 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Oct 10 01:10:06 * * webkit-gtk-0.0+svnr26079-r1-do_configure Oct 10 01:10:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3136 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 10 02:59:57 2007