**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 10 02:59:57 2007 Oct 10 05:58:05 * * OE Bug 3137 has been created by joshua(AT)willowisp.net Oct 10 05:58:06 * * `bitbake xproto' fails on do_configue Oct 10 05:58:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3137 Oct 10 07:35:51 http://rafb.net/p/ESJjxX49.html <-- why is the linux-2.6.22 package built ? it used to be the compulab-pxa270 package ? Oct 10 07:36:47 note that I have zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009143615.cmx270 and zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009103436.bin Oct 10 07:36:56 looks like the timestamp is wrong Oct 10 07:39:18 nud, some things were rearranged Oct 10 07:39:35 gilligan_: explain me Oct 10 07:39:43 * nud should maybe register to the OE mailing-list Oct 10 07:40:30 kernel_file = os.path.join(deploy_dir, bb.data.expand('${KERNEL_IMAGE_BASE_NAME}', d) + '.bin') Oct 10 07:40:30 img_file = os.path.join(deploy_dir, bb.data.expand('${KERNEL_IMAGE_BASE_NAME}', d) + '.cmx270') Oct 10 07:40:40 seems this causes two different timestamps to be used Oct 10 07:41:07 doesn't matter much because there are symbolic links to the latest of both Oct 10 07:41:21 it matters because it makes the build fail Oct 10 07:41:38 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/stuff/build-vphone/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009143615.bin' Oct 10 07:41:55 you can see the .bin timestamp is actually the cm-x270 one Oct 10 07:44:04 ? Oct 10 07:44:31 the files I have in that directory are zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009143615.cmx270 and zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009103436.bi Oct 10 07:44:34 n Oct 10 07:45:18 should have the same timestamp Oct 10 07:45:44 yes, that's what I was saying Oct 10 07:45:49 but for some reason they aren't Oct 10 07:45:55 they don't * Oct 10 07:46:16 well it works fine here Oct 10 07:46:44 will it work everytime if it doesn't here ? Oct 10 07:46:54 maybe you were just lucky ;-) Oct 10 07:46:57 03gilligan 07org.oe.dev * r9e58343e... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Oct 10 07:46:57 * armmon_xfer: Tool to automate tarnsfer of kernel/ramdisk to compulab Oct 10 07:46:57 cmx-270 boards/ARMmon bootloader for use in scripts Oct 10 07:47:19 try `bitbake virtual/kernel -c rebuild` Oct 10 07:47:33 i've used it several times here already Oct 10 07:47:42 (not the rebuild hehe..) Oct 10 07:51:44 gilligan_: well, imho understanding what could have failed would be a good thing Oct 10 07:51:48 gilligan_: you have commit access ? Oct 10 07:52:11 aye Oct 10 07:52:32 wow, you got it quickly ;-) Oct 10 07:52:55 nud, you are in the cmx-270 directory right? because the image deploy directory has been changed as well Oct 10 07:53:10 no I'm not Oct 10 07:53:23 I know bitbake removes and recreates directories in tmp Oct 10 07:53:32 so I avoid staying in there Oct 10 07:53:33 used to be compulab-pxa270 Oct 10 07:53:42 this is a completely fresh build Oct 10 07:53:44 now it is cm-x270 Oct 10 07:54:10 unless you fixed bugs yesterday Oct 10 07:54:13 it won't remove the old image deploy dir Oct 10 07:54:23 this is a completely fresh build Oct 10 07:54:36 ah Oct 10 07:54:48 fresh *OE* build you mean Oct 10 07:54:52 yes Oct 10 07:55:17 mmmh does the kernel build every modules available now ? Oct 10 07:56:22 you can have a look in the defconfig file to see what modules are being build Oct 10 07:56:39 mh now it worked Oct 10 07:56:49 maybe it's such a bug that happens once every while Oct 10 07:56:55 (or something like that) Oct 10 07:57:21 dunno Oct 10 07:58:12 if it happens again we can always just blame cbrake... ;]] Oct 10 07:59:11 btw do you know how to have a list of changes since the last update and the upstream branch ? Oct 10 07:59:43 mtn help log Oct 10 08:00:19 dunno from the top of my head right now.. could be that something like `mtn log -r HEAD -r HEAD-1 works or so ;] Oct 10 08:02:03 Running task 1242 of 1967 Oct 10 08:02:18 grmbl, this could have ran during the night if there weren't that silly kernel build bug Oct 10 08:03:24 rebuilding the kernel does not require to rebuild dozens of other packages Oct 10 08:04:20 hmm my udev doesnt act on a rule to rename eth devices .. what could this be ? i know our oe udev rules are small from the beginning ,, do i miss a udev script to actaully rename ? Oct 10 08:05:24 nud, ah.. tu est belgique n'est pas? tres mal que j'ais oublie toutes mon francaise ... gah.. ;] Oct 10 08:05:59 rob_w, I suppose you use the MAC to identify the interface? Oct 10 08:06:12 gilligan_: fair enough, I don't know a single German word ;-) Oct 10 08:06:22 gilligan_, yes i tryed to Oct 10 08:06:32 nud, "Wurst" maybe? :) Oct 10 08:06:36 well, I know some, but not enough to build a fulll sentence Oct 10 08:06:46 rob_w, have you tried googling for examples ? Oct 10 08:06:54 yes ... Oct 10 08:07:25 nud, i've learned French in school.. for uhm 5 years or so.. But then again that was way more than 5 years ago Oct 10 08:07:32 Ich bin Schnappy, das kleine Krokodiel... Oct 10 08:07:47 x_X Oct 10 08:07:49 omg Oct 10 08:07:51 hehe Oct 10 08:07:52 argh Oct 10 08:08:18 i hope you have a daughter or something.. just anything to show you don't love that song yourself :) Oct 10 08:09:15 I've a girlfriend that learnt German and that song something like 8 years ago Oct 10 08:09:34 ;] Oct 10 08:09:47 don't think its older than maybe 2 years or so, dunno Oct 10 08:09:57 anyway.. i need to go buy some food Oct 10 08:09:58 bbl Oct 10 08:10:16 gilligan_: it is, it just didn't pass on the radio Oct 10 08:22:30 is the web site grinding slowly today, or is it me? Oct 10 08:30:42 I've switched to FC7 i686. Now I see problems with '...missing makeinfo ...' for files like bfd.info. Should this go into bug tracker? Oct 10 08:32:46 morning Oct 10 08:32:59 russf: you should install makeinfo Oct 10 08:33:12 morning XorA Oct 10 08:33:23 morning Oct 10 08:33:24 thanks XorA , but of course I have already done so. Oct 10 08:35:03 XorA: the problem is not in the absence of makeinfo, but in at least one case was a @strong{Note: } formatting in the info file. I'm wondering if this is related to makeinfo version Oct 10 08:35:29 russf: makeinfo 4.8 works here Oct 10 08:35:38 missing makes a failure in execution look like a missing program. Oct 10 08:36:14 hrw: mmmh. 4.11 here. Oct 10 08:36:36 * XorA has no idea what makeinfo is Oct 10 08:38:36 XorA: I did not know until I tripped over it on i686 - it was never an issue on x86_64 Oct 10 08:38:49 hrw/Xora: what do you think about adding a dash check to the sanity checker ? I had lots of troubles when I started out with OE and forgot about dash vs bash Oct 10 08:39:16 gilligan_: pass Oct 10 08:39:21 gilligan_: OE should be now dash safe iirc Oct 10 08:40:39 hrw, well after I fixed that = vs == thing in linux.inc I could fully build, but there were some other.. "oddities" - to be quite honest I can't say for sure that they were bash-problem related.. Oct 10 08:40:57 eh, dash-related Oct 10 08:41:24 but in the end when using bash one is on the safe side i guess Oct 10 08:44:58 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.2.2-r1: task do_configure: started Oct 10 08:50:19 hi Oct 10 08:50:32 koen, what do you say.. bash sanity check yes/no ? Oct 10 08:50:39 my pain with makeinfo results from it getting unwanted --split-size=5000000 parameters , repeated twice. Oct 10 08:50:46 I thought we already had one Oct 10 08:50:56 koen, nope Oct 10 08:51:11 koen, and i would know.. because I lost a lot of time on this :) Oct 10 08:51:30 koen: sorry for disturbing, but i saw that you have done some work on pixops.c(no float calcs) in gtk+ on older versions of gtk, does this speed up gtk+ ? Oct 10 08:52:00 grma: I didn't do the work, I just bitch about it :) Oct 10 08:52:24 it didn't get any faster according to the pixop-test we have in OE Oct 10 08:52:35 yes, sorry you forwarded the old patches Oct 10 08:53:00 but this patches are not used in OE ? Oct 10 08:53:10 koen, if not ( os.readlink('/bin/sh' == 'bash') ) : messages += "'/bin/sh': not a symbolic link to bash. Please use bash." Oct 10 08:53:31 gilligan_: talk to zecke, he's the sanity man :) Oct 10 08:54:26 koen, is that because he is the sanest amongst the devers or is that more of a coincidence? :) Oct 10 08:54:53 * gilligan_ taps zecke on the back Oct 10 08:54:54 because he's the insanest Oct 10 08:54:57 ;] Oct 10 08:55:00 zecke, there? Oct 10 08:55:04 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.2.2-r1: task do_build: completed Oct 10 08:55:15 nice Oct 10 08:55:17 or are they used ? i didn't finda any .bb file where this patches are used. Oct 10 08:58:06 hm, in order to maintain a local/private distro I should probably use a dedicated branch? or can I (without any ugly hacks) maintain distro outside of the main OE directory structure... koen? ' Oct 10 08:58:55 wy you need own distro? Oct 10 08:59:08 why do you need your own distro? Oct 10 08:59:44 gilligan_: you probably just need a custom image Oct 10 08:59:57 right Oct 10 09:00:02 you can manage it with bbcollections Oct 10 09:00:08 out of tree Oct 10 09:00:13 yeah.. Oct 10 09:00:29 then you can put your own scm to manage your own packages Oct 10 09:00:49 right.. now that you ask i realize i can really just build up everything on angstrom and a custom image.. no need for an own distro Oct 10 09:00:57 that's what I'm doing right now (I have a few packages waiting to be submitted upstream) Oct 10 09:01:21 okay.. move on, move on.. nothing to see here.. don't mind the stupid German ... Oct 10 09:01:24 ;] Oct 10 09:03:31 Intel's A1xx looks great as a processor Oct 10 09:03:47 I wonder if there are pc104 cards available for those Oct 10 09:08:10 koen: Hi ! if you have time, can you consider applying this tiny patch : http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3048 Oct 10 09:11:44 gilligan_, cbrake_away: bwt, do alsa 1.0.14 work for you ? Oct 10 09:11:58 the microphone doesn't work with 1.0.14 here Oct 10 09:12:29 no idea Oct 10 09:12:49 * nud is slowly figuring out he does something unusual with his board Oct 10 09:18:59 nud, what.. a karaoke system? :) Oct 10 09:19:11 no Oct 10 09:19:20 I have no screen ;-) Oct 10 09:19:37 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r6f164d92... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/moko-autorev.inc): distro/include/moko-autorev.inc : add dft-util/dfu-util-native thanks roh Oct 10 09:19:42 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rada2b5e6... 10/ (71 files in 3 dirs): gcc: add 4.2.2 Oct 10 09:19:48 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r5ac8d930... 10/ (1 packages/mtd/mtd-utils-native.inc): Oct 10 09:19:48 packages/mtd/mtd-utils-native.inc : dont override do_stage because we Oct 10 09:19:48 actually need the header files. Oct 10 09:19:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf92154c0... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): machines: don't include .conf files, they were renamed to .inc files like a month ago Oct 10 09:20:08 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3ab13564... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): at91*: use uImage Oct 10 09:22:07 hm.. dunno who said it earlier, but he was right : openembedded.org is slow as a dog right now Oct 10 09:22:18 load average of 30 Oct 10 09:22:47 guinea pigs are eating the cables Oct 10 09:23:00 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * raddd0ba8... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): python-pygobject[-native]: drop 2.12.2, add dependency on glib-2.0[-native] Oct 10 09:23:06 koen: many thanks :-) Oct 10 09:23:06 03laforge 07org.oe.dev * r4e669af0... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf conf/machine/fic-gta02.conf): Oct 10 09:23:06 conf/bitbake.conf, conf/machine/fic-gta02.conf : fix arguments for yaffs Oct 10 09:23:06 image generation. Oct 10 09:23:06 Thanks LaForge Oct 10 09:23:17 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1d278c3b... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/gdk-pixbuf-csource-native_2.10.14.bb): gdk-pixbuf-csource-native: add necessary dependencies (gettext-native, glib-2.0-native) Oct 10 09:25:32 koen/hrw: is there a reason why there are angstrom image recipes in packages/images/ as well as in packages/angstrom/ ? Oct 10 09:26:56 historical reason Oct 10 09:27:06 will be made more clear soon Oct 10 09:29:17 okay Oct 10 09:29:42 * gilligan_ is enjoying work with openembedded Oct 10 09:30:22 getting paid to sit at home working with compulab&OE = fun Oct 10 09:31:11 lucky guy Oct 10 09:31:16 getting paid to get work done with cmx270 and OE is less fun Oct 10 09:31:19 all we have is lousy day jobs Oct 10 09:31:21 :D Oct 10 09:31:34 especially when some bad guy breaks everything and makes me loose nearly a whole week ;-) Oct 10 09:31:47 getting paid for doing OE related stuff is goos thing Oct 10 09:31:51 s/goos/good Oct 10 09:31:54 heh Oct 10 09:31:56 a goose thing Oct 10 09:32:03 ~spell goose Oct 10 09:32:05 'goose' may be spelled correctly Oct 10 09:32:14 ~dict goose Oct 10 09:32:14 deadline is approaching and everything got broken friday :-( Oct 10 09:32:24 Dictionary 'goose' (1 of 5): \Goose\ (g[=oo]s), n.; pl. {Geese} (g[=e]s). [OE. gos, AS. g[=o]s, pl. g[=e]s; akin to D. & G. gans, Icel. g[=a]s, Dan. gaas, Sw. g[*a]s, Russ. guse. OIr. geiss, L. anser, for hanser, Gr. chh`n, Skr. ha[.m]sa. [root]233. Cf. {Gander}, {Gannet}, {Ganza}, {Gosling}.] (Zool.) [1913 Webster] 1. Any large web-footen bird of the ... Oct 10 09:32:30 * XorA has a horrible boss who forces him to use OE instead of buildroot Oct 10 09:32:35 ;DDD Oct 10 09:32:37 ~dict geek Oct 10 09:32:39 Dictionary 'geek' (2 of 5): a carnival performer who does disgusting acts ;; {computer geek}. Oct 10 09:32:46 ;] Oct 10 09:32:55 * hrw is sitting next to XorA's boss Oct 10 09:32:58 nud: if you are doing serious work, you shouldn't update your tree Oct 10 09:33:24 mickeyl: learned that Oct 10 09:33:35 well, I had a bug and hoped to see it fixed Oct 10 09:34:56 btw .. can anyone here give me any input on bugzilla vs trac ? I'll probably go for trac, but is there anything i'll be missing out on compared to bugzilla ? Oct 10 09:35:34 ~fish lrg Oct 10 09:35:35 * ibot slaps lrg around with a large trout Oct 10 09:36:50 hey XorA, back in UK ? Oct 10 09:36:54 nope Oct 10 09:37:02 hi lrg Oct 10 09:37:08 hey Mickey Oct 10 09:37:26 uhrm ... ` ${@base_contains("MACHINE_FEATURES", "screen", "psplash-zap", "",d)} ` <-- what's the `d` ? :) Oct 10 09:37:36 bitbake data Oct 10 09:37:40 some python nonsense Oct 10 09:37:48 hey broonie Oct 10 09:38:13 hi Oct 10 09:38:15 broonie: hey dude Oct 10 09:38:33 hey broonie Oct 10 09:38:39 hi broonie, welcome on board Oct 10 09:38:40 hrw/koen: and in which cases will I have to append that? Oct 10 09:38:46 * koen has no idea Oct 10 09:38:58 I just copy paste code and make it so bad mickeyl fixes it Oct 10 09:39:01 broonie: could you bring a install disk for your favourite distro with you on Monday ? Oct 10 09:39:04 whenever you want to query the pkgdata from Python Oct 10 09:39:10 then you will have to submit it Oct 10 09:39:15 to the actual python function Oct 10 09:39:57 koen, hehehe Oct 10 09:40:00 mickeyl, okay Oct 10 09:40:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb5da61c7... 10/ (21 files in 2 dirs): angstrom images: rename, it's safe now since reenoo stopped sending me hatemail Oct 10 09:40:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r313f55e5... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): angstrom images: rename, see previous commit Oct 10 09:40:57 excellent Oct 10 09:40:58 ~praise koen Oct 10 09:41:00 All hail koen! Oct 10 09:41:06 lrg: I can probably manage that. What hardware would it need to be for? Oct 10 09:41:16 koen, XorA: still no Fins of Blackness Oct 10 09:41:23 lrg: drat Oct 10 09:41:38 broonie: dual Xeon Oct 10 09:41:46 broonie: nvidia gfx Oct 10 09:41:50 broonie: and Dell D420 laptop Oct 10 09:42:00 So x86-64? Oct 10 09:42:01 debian blah works fine Oct 10 09:42:13 x86_64 on desktop, i386 on laptop Oct 10 09:42:30 Actually, I think joeyh made multiarch netinst CDs. Oct 10 09:42:43 XorA: does x86_64 native work ok with OE now ? Oct 10 09:43:47 lrg: it has for 3 years Oct 10 09:44:52 XorA: cool, I thought there was some issue last year wrt 64 bit xgcc, my bad memory ;) Oct 10 09:45:52 nah, qemu was a problem until OH fixed that Oct 10 09:45:54 Might depend on the host distro; some of them do interesting things to GCC. Oct 10 09:45:59 but you could work around qemu Oct 10 09:46:33 nah, it normally boils down to user error Oct 10 09:48:27 "x86_64 doesn't work, I get this error: 'No space left on device'" Oct 10 09:49:00 64 bit binaries suck because all the 64 bit numbers are twice as big :P Oct 10 09:55:31 broonie: welcome to the elitist cadre Oct 10 09:57:45 I think I've been in that for a while :) Oct 10 09:58:15 ~emulate Crofton Oct 10 09:58:15 * ibot don't be so elitist! Oct 10 10:11:22 is it possible to test angstrom directly on the build computer instead of updating the image on the device ? Oct 10 10:11:36 with qemu-neo Oct 10 10:16:37 hm.. talking about qemu -- does anyone here know the qemu code base a bit ? i wonder how hard it is to modify a supported qemu-arch (say x86) in order to emulate custom hardware features.. Oct 10 10:18:04 I've just posted a bug related to the makeinfo problem on i686. http://bugs.openembedded.org/post_bug.cgi I'm a little surprised to have hit this. I moved from X86_64 to get on the mainstream. Am I jumping out of the frying pan, into the fire? Oct 10 10:23:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r75b12a7f... 10/ (1 packages/images/minimal-image-with-mtd-utils.bb): minimal-image-mtd: fix include Oct 10 10:23:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0b1dd416... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): altboot*: fix includes Oct 10 10:23:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf416d052... 10/ (21 files in 3 dirs): ex-angstrom images: move to image dir Oct 10 10:23:59 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r4563fd30... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Oct 10 10:23:59 packages/mtd/mtd-utils-native_1.0.0+git.bb : fix incomplete commit and Oct 10 10:23:59 bumped PR Oct 10 10:25:59 hm, for some reason the fetch tasks like to get stuck for me.. when i abort them (wget) via ctrl-c (twice) the transfer will complete fine however then the build process won't continue and I have to invoke bitbake again Oct 10 10:29:05 because you send cltr-c to bitbake not to wget Oct 10 10:34:02 ah right..makes sense Oct 10 10:34:14 oh, .. now i get the same problem that nud had earlier on.. Oct 10 10:34:24 ERROR: Exception: Message:[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/gilligan/projects/ATM/embedded/pxa270_nand/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071010102445.bin' Oct 10 10:35:12 the timestamp is that of the .cmx270 file Oct 10 10:35:27 gilligan_: yes, that's what I said Oct 10 10:35:51 meaning, there is a *.cmx270 file with the 20071010102445 timestamp, but not a *.bin Oct 10 10:35:57 nud, right Oct 10 10:36:04 hrw, there? Oct 10 10:37:04 * * OE Bug 3138 has been created by russf(AT)topia.com Oct 10 10:37:06 hm. worked for me Oct 10 10:37:06 * * makeinfo confused by too many params, results in missing script giving Error 1. Oct 10 10:37:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3138 Oct 10 10:37:19 tbh I don't see a point in using timestamps at all.. if the user really wants to compare different builds he can do so on his own.. no need to create timestamps per default ? Oct 10 10:37:31 hrw, that is what I told nud as well 1h ago Oct 10 10:37:40 hrw, it worked several times.. not it didn't Oct 10 10:37:47 s/not/now Oct 10 10:38:00 gilligan_: so you had the same issue ? Oct 10 10:38:08 just now Oct 10 10:38:10 yes Oct 10 10:38:29 http://rafb.net/p/ESJjxX49.html <-- here is my log Oct 10 10:38:40 zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009143615.cmx270 and zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009103436.bin are the files I had Oct 10 10:41:39 hrw, is there really a need for time stamps ? Oct 10 10:42:02 later all Oct 10 10:43:11 -rw-r--r-- 1 gilligan gilligan 1285288 2007-10-10 12:18 tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071010094546.bin Oct 10 10:43:11 -rw-r--r-- 1 gilligan gilligan 0 2007-10-10 12:32 tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071010102445.cmx270 Oct 10 10:43:13 huh Oct 10 10:44:28 gilligan_: you want to be able to take an older image that worked Oct 10 10:47:50 gilligan_: I ran into this problem several times yesterday Oct 10 10:48:20 gilligan_: apparently the linking phase happens in a later stage, so if your build get interrupted, and restarted the time stamp is different Oct 10 10:48:56 gilligan_: this is really a problem when doing complete image builds from scratch Oct 10 10:49:09 nud, I think is in the responsibility of the user, and not OE .. you should certainly not just leave your working/in-production lying around somewhere in the deploy directory Oct 10 10:49:21 gilligan_: the solution is the rebuild the kernel Oct 10 10:49:51 cbrake, yeah that's no biggie.. but still i'd say lets just get rid of the timestamps ... Oct 10 10:51:03 i realized that esp. when we added the symlink Oct 10 10:51:11 because that's what you actually really want.. your current build Oct 10 10:51:39 gilligan_: or ensure the timestamp does not change Oct 10 10:52:23 gilligan_: I think we just need to move the linking step Oct 10 10:53:28 cbrake: rebuild the kernel is a workaround, not the solution Oct 10 10:53:59 I want to be able to type bitbake vphone-image and then not check for the two days the compilation needs Oct 10 10:54:08 i think cliff is aware of that :) Oct 10 10:55:22 hmm, linking and deploy image creation happen in the same step for the *.bin image, so it must be the cmx270 images that are giving us grief ... Oct 10 10:56:15 cbrake, sorry if I am so insisting on this.. but do you actually use the multiple images in deploy as some sort of build history? because I think most people aren't Oct 10 10:59:03 gilligan_: I don't really have an opinion on this -- you may want to post a question to the maillist and so if we can reach a consensus on changing it Oct 10 10:59:57 cbrake, alright.. just wanted to get some thoughts.. just in case there is like..this long history/reason behind it or whatever :) Oct 10 11:00:25 the *.cmx270 kernel image problem can be reduced by appending the do_compulab_image logic to do_deploy instead of adding another task that gets executed at some arbitrary point after do_deploy -- less chance it will be interrupted Oct 10 11:01:23 gilligan_: having multiple deploy images is handy if something breaks, and you want to try the last image that worked -- I can see where that would be handy, but I have never used it. Oct 10 11:01:33 03xora 07org.oe.dev * recde5ad4... 10/ (1 packages/yaffs2/yaffs2-utils-native_cvs.bb): yaffs2/yaffs2-utils-native_cvs.bb : DEPDENDS on mtd-utils-native Oct 10 11:05:51 cbrake, yeah..well the intention is clear.. I just have a feeling that noone is actually using it that way.. but I will just ask on the mailing list and we'll see.. Oct 10 11:13:39 ok..just posted something Oct 10 11:21:44 hi all Oct 10 11:22:09 hellooo Oct 10 11:22:13 zecke: have so much else todo today and won't make it to the meeting :( Oct 10 11:44:04 touchpad is broken on latest htc-universal image with kernel zImage-2.6.21-hh17-htcuniversal-20071009060341 Oct 10 11:44:27 is any workaround to make it work? Oct 10 11:48:18 huhu Oct 10 11:48:23 zecke: Thanks for the Minutes of OEDEM2007 Oct 10 11:50:55 cbrake_away, what do you actually know about that thing with the alignment traps in the nor image? Oct 10 11:57:32 OEDEM participants: It's good that documentation came up. I've been flirting with OE for a couple of months now, and I agree with the comment that it takes a month to get into it. It's hard to work on the superficially on an OE related project - you need to use a snorkel and dive in. Oct 10 11:59:30 * gilligan_ nods Oct 10 11:59:48 s/work on the superficially/work superficially/ Oct 10 12:13:00 doh.. there is no python psyco for x86_64? Oct 10 12:13:31 no Oct 10 12:14:02 so far I've seen no benefits in the 64bix architecture... and from what I read it needs more memory and is slower Oct 10 12:14:11 now I wonder why I use it heh Oct 10 12:15:34 hmm, trying do build angstrom, fresh checkout, ]ERROR: Could not include required file angstrom-minimal-image.bb while parsing /OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/images/minimal-image-with-mtd-utils.bb Oct 10 12:15:43 and some other similar errors Oct 10 12:15:49 did I miss something? Oct 10 12:19:33 ..or is it really broken? Oct 10 12:20:30 hm.. posted something to the oedevel ml some hours ago.. still nothing Oct 10 12:24:43 wings1: the only people who write MT code here are lww and me, others help us testing or come for help, you may have more chances on the pupnp mailing list - those are the guys who continue libupnp development Oct 10 12:24:45 oops wrong window Oct 10 12:25:00 always forget to switch in BX :) Oct 10 12:32:02 gilligan_: yes, I've seen the alignment traps -- I wish they would go away :-) Oct 10 12:32:22 gilligan_: echo 2 > /proc/cpu/alignment Oct 10 12:32:30 cbrake, yeah... Oct 10 12:32:33 hmm, some .bb files require other .bb files that are jus tnot there Oct 10 12:32:45 cbrake, in the class directory Oct 10 12:32:47 eeh Oct 10 12:32:50 Jin^eLD, in the class dir Oct 10 12:33:22 gilligan_: huh? no, it says "require angstrom-console-image.bb" for example, and thats inside anothe r.bb file Oct 10 12:33:25 cbrake, do you think that is because of the uclibc cross-gcc or because of uclibc ? (the traps) Oct 10 12:33:38 Jin^eLD, ah. that's in packages/images/ Oct 10 12:33:45 well its not - thats the thing Oct 10 12:33:55 it is Oct 10 12:34:01 mtn pull && mtn update should do the trick, right? Oct 10 12:34:03 unless you deleted it :) Oct 10 12:34:03 I did that just before Oct 10 12:34:17 and even then it should say that it is missing Oct 10 12:34:32 yes I know, it usually complains if something is missing Oct 10 12:34:40 it did not this time - thats why I am so puzzled Oct 10 12:35:15 gilligan_: its always the same address, so it should be possible to track it back to the module, and then bit of code Oct 10 12:35:34 gilligan_: bug #2579 Oct 10 12:35:57 hmm, removed packages, reverted missing, updated again, now its there Oct 10 12:35:58 weird Oct 10 12:36:05 my first checkout did not go too well I guess Oct 10 12:36:07 cbrake, if I wanted to make a change to the inittab file for my NOR rootfs - should I make a local package for sysvinit or what you suggest for this? Oct 10 12:36:57 gilligan_: yes, that is what I end up doing -- gets to be kind of messy Oct 10 12:37:52 cbrake, well you patch around in the inittab at some point iirc ? but that happens inside the rootfs and not the package right? Oct 10 12:38:07 ("patch around" = set ttys[0|1] ..) Oct 10 12:39:22 gilligan_: it would be nice if we could have an additional files mechanism where we could have a directory with machine/packageA/ so we did not have to fork an entire package to make a change in a config file Oct 10 12:39:37 gilligan_: but, I've not thought through this Oct 10 12:40:13 gilligan_: I don't following your "patch around" question Oct 10 12:40:45 cbrake, sorry... Oct 10 12:41:08 cbrake, hang on ... Oct 10 12:42:15 the variable CMX270_CONSOLE_SERIAL_PORT determines the port to use (a) in the kernel cmdline (b) in inittab - no ? Oct 10 12:45:59 gilligan_: yes, the package uses a variable in *.conf Oct 10 12:46:20 gilligan_: but this is different than replacing an entire file in a package Oct 10 12:46:40 yep Oct 10 12:47:15 gilligan_: maybe the solution is to start using a monotone branch vs an overlay ... Oct 10 12:47:21 cbrake, hm.. can i just copy the whole sysvinit subdir to my local_packages dir which I assigned as a BBFILES collection with higher priority and it will then taken instead? Oct 10 12:47:56 gilligan_: yes, just document you changes because 4 months from now, it is easy to forget -- speaking from experience ... Oct 10 12:48:07 ;]] Oct 10 12:48:53 hehe..been there.. less than four month. I came back from a 3 week holiday in China and it took me hours to figure out a problem that I had solved right before my vacation already :) Oct 10 12:58:31 cbrake, http://pastebin.com/m28f41edc <-- does that look alright to you? Oct 10 13:06:52 ERROR: Could not inherit file classes/efl.bbclass while parsing /home/gilligan/projects/ATM/embedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/nonworking/efl/imlib2-x11_1.3.0.001.bb Oct 10 13:06:55 what's that all about? Oct 10 13:10:30 gilligan_: I leave the /*/*.bb off the pattern statements -- not sure if that matters Oct 10 13:12:05 * * OE Bug 3139 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Oct 10 13:12:07 * * pixops-test-1.0-r2-do_compile Oct 10 13:12:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3139 Oct 10 13:12:37 cbrake, do you know what that nonworking packages error is about ? Oct 10 13:12:43 gilligan_: no Oct 10 13:13:06 cbrake, hrm.. i previously just used BBMASK to exclude them for an easy fix.. now with the collection this somehow doesn't work anymore Oct 10 13:17:16 cbrake, eeehrm..yeah..well i can't build anything at all right now Oct 10 13:17:48 http://pastebin.com/m5e5cc14e Oct 10 13:17:55 lots of errors on the packages in nonworking Oct 10 13:18:52 * nud is happy not to have any GUI stuff on his board Oct 10 13:19:41 i don't have *ANY* of that stuff on my board Oct 10 13:20:20 then blacklist them in local.conf Oct 10 13:20:36 I did that for a bunch of motorola-related packages that made bitbake fail Oct 10 13:20:36 that's what I did.. Oct 10 13:20:48 but it doesn't work with my collections now Oct 10 13:21:42 it works for me Oct 10 13:23:04 http://pastebin.com/m69d33cc4 <-- that is my local.conf Oct 10 13:23:10 for some reason it ignores the BBMASK Oct 10 13:24:15 BBMASK is a regexp Oct 10 13:24:37 ^/home/gilligan/projects/ATM/embedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/nonworking would probably work better Oct 10 13:24:59 or just BBMASK = "nonworking" fwiw Oct 10 13:26:40 ah i see Oct 10 13:27:24 but, well.. if I uncomment all the collections stuff and comment in line 11 the exclusion works just fine Oct 10 13:29:49 cbrake, is there any way to map the addresses given by the alignment traps to some process ? otherwise i guess i'd have to just run some of the triggering apps through gdb and try to find the problem Oct 10 13:30:37 gilligan_: I think zecke had a suggestion at one point, but I don't recall the method he suggested. Oct 10 13:32:23 hm..wonder where zecke is.. wanted to talk to him anyway :] Oct 10 13:33:51 people who can tell me which driver is used for touchscreen on HTC-Universal? it looks broken in current Oct 10 13:39:53 * mickeyl pokes zecke Oct 10 13:41:00 rschuster: don't worry we are mostly leaving anyway. Thanks again for the nice food!!!! Oct 10 13:41:23 gilligan_: hi Oct 10 13:43:41 zecke, ah.. hey .. two things Oct 10 13:44:22 zecke, 1. can/should I add a check to sanity.conf for bash ? (if (os.readlink('/bin/sh'==bash)): ... ) Oct 10 13:44:52 zecke, 2. what was your suggestion to hunt down the code where the alignment traps are triggered ? cbrake said you had some idea on that Oct 10 13:45:32 gilligan_: 1.) /bin/sh == posix.3 and every software using bashism needs to be fixed (we could consider adding a non fatal warning) Oct 10 13:46:21 gilligan_: 2.) addr2line of binutils can help to identify the source file, but it needs manual work and you should know what is approxiamtely currently executed and totally lose when plugins are involved Oct 10 13:46:56 zecke, yeah.. like right now there is just a check if messages is empty .. that could be replaced with a regex match for "Error" , allowing "Warning:"s Oct 10 13:48:40 zecke, I see.. in that case busybox should be compiled with debugging symbols enabled I suppose Oct 10 13:48:59 this was a nice meeting. I hope to see you all again at FOSDEM 08 :) Oct 10 13:50:20 morning Oct 10 13:50:36 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rea03196e... 10/ (15 files in 2 dirs): Oct 10 13:50:36 packages/sylpheed/claws-mail_3.0.2.bb : version upgrade and bring Oct 10 13:50:36 plugins uptodate as well. Oct 10 13:51:19 yes it was. sorry I didn't turn up this morning, but I did the math and arriving at GMIT at 11am and leaving at 12:30 to be in Adlershof at 2pm didn't seem useful Oct 10 13:52:04 rschuster: what I meant was the description at http://jalimo.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages&DokuWiki=a25b1e8ffeeee1fb79c0b4d67e0d9bd8#openmoko_2007.2 Oct 10 13:53:03 Henryk: what is missing from the description? Oct 10 13:53:34 Henryk: isnt adding the feed URL + adding the arch everything needed? Oct 10 13:54:46 rschuster: yes, that's all that's needed, but users generally don't know about feeds and what to do to add them Oct 10 13:55:13 Henryk: yep. You're right. I'll fix that Oct 10 13:55:39 a more helpful description would be "add this line to this file, then create a new file with this name and put the following line in it, then call ipkg update; ipkg install cacao classpath; then you call run your java files with cacao foo" Oct 10 13:55:44 hello...is anyone using the preferred versions of X11R7 with kdrive? when I included that file in my distro conf file, it showed that a lot of versions were not available... Oct 10 13:55:56 just wondering what I need to do to try out X11R7/kdrive Oct 10 13:56:08 (maybe even explain the "add line to file" part with 'cat "..." >> ...') Oct 10 14:01:52 Henryk: good points. will be fix it. :) Oct 10 14:02:04 cbrake, happen to know how I can get an autologin with busybox ? getty/mingetty has an autologin feature, that's not the case with busybox Oct 10 14:08:11 ~lart git Oct 10 14:08:11 * ibot slaps a compatible dib on git's head Oct 10 14:08:48 zecke: what is happening? Oct 10 14:09:19 ~dict git Oct 10 14:09:21 Dictionary 'git' (2 of 5): \Git\ (g[i^]t), n. (Founding) See {Geat}. [1913 Webster] Gitana ;; GNU Interactive Tools (GNU). Oct 10 14:09:50 i was hoping for the 'idiot' git meaning... ;] Oct 10 14:10:19 gilligan_: hmmm? Oct 10 14:11:01 git is British English for idiot/twat Oct 10 14:11:12 ok Oct 10 14:13:21 vivijim: hey! Oct 10 14:14:14 hm, does anyone know how to get an autologin with busybox? Oct 10 14:14:36 gilligan_: no idea, prepare a special linuxrc that doesn't launch getty? Oct 10 14:15:03 hi zecke! Oct 10 14:15:16 ngh.. it should be via /etc/inittab :] Oct 10 14:16:04 can find some references that it is supposed to work somehow, but no details.. and so far i'm not getting it at all hehe.. well will look some more Oct 10 14:40:32 its oh so quite... Oct 10 14:43:03 * * OE Bug 3140 has been created by brainstorm(AT)brainstorm.name Oct 10 14:43:05 * * Touch screen does not work in fresh branch from october 9 2007 Oct 10 14:43:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3140 Oct 10 14:57:39 cbrake, there ? wondering why `exec switch_root -c /dev/console /mnt/nand init 5` fails with "no rootfs" now ... Oct 10 15:00:09 gilligan__: are you running this from Process ID #1 (the init process)? Oct 10 15:01:15 cbrake, ah, no.. i just logged in and did the "exec ..." Oct 10 15:01:46 gilligan__: switch_root can only be run from PID #1 -- its a real pain Oct 10 15:02:38 cbrake, ok.. so i'll have to place some script in init.d/ somewhere Oct 10 15:05:08 jo Oct 10 16:04:14 XorA: fixed Oct 10 16:13:24 heh, quadcore rocks, bitbake linux takes only 2minutes and 12 secs Oct 10 16:41:27 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * ra6eb9369... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tiff 3.7.2: patch configure.ac to work with auto automake 1.10 Oct 10 17:33:10 * RP is home Oct 10 18:01:44 * hrw|gone is at home too Oct 10 18:01:45 bye Oct 10 18:30:55 can anyone point me to a .bb packge that builds some kernel modules that are not part of the kernel tree? Oct 10 18:31:17 aeh Oct 10 18:31:22 madwifi? Oct 10 18:31:30 thx :) Oct 10 18:31:39 or wlan-ng Oct 10 18:31:41 hms Oct 10 18:58:45 good evening Oct 10 19:00:42 hi ph5 Oct 10 19:00:50 hej woglinde Oct 10 19:36:55 i got a strange error "ERROR: No providers of build target angstrom-x11-image (for [])" ... all is ok except on the resume i got OE_REVISION = "" ... any clue ? Oct 10 19:37:46 gremlin[it]: angstrom-x11-image -> x11-image Oct 10 19:38:33 ohh yes true ... now i notice on mtn log ... thanks pH5 ! Oct 10 19:43:09 gremlin[it]: did you build image for h3600? ;d Oct 10 19:47:54 univac yes i build but is about all time over 16Mbyte :( Oct 10 19:48:19 16 mbyte over com :{ evil ... Oct 10 19:52:14 yes yes !!! Oct 10 19:52:58 univac and i'm building a uclibc image !!! i really don't understand why it's so big ;( Oct 10 19:53:53 hmm i dont know too ;) Oct 10 19:54:29 i tried run angstrom 2.6 image on my h3800 after swap kernel to 2.4 Oct 10 19:54:35 it doesnt work ;[ Oct 10 19:54:53 have sense :) Oct 10 19:54:58 i thought this bug sitting in /etc dir Oct 10 19:55:28 i tried modutils except m-i-t, copy modules, copy modutils script Oct 10 19:55:33 but id still doesnt work ;[ Oct 10 19:56:12 maybe ... disable udev and populate by manually /dev Oct 10 19:56:56 hmm, maybe i'll try Oct 10 20:05:10 Should I expect bitbake to notice that I've modified Makefile.am and re-create Makefile.in for me? Oct 10 20:05:54 Or do I need to make a patch file against the downloaded source and start from "make clean"? Oct 10 20:09:08 Perhaps my expectations are wrong? The "build" command will fetch source, unpack, apply patches, run automake / autoconf / configure / make / make install .... so why doesn't it notice when I've changed one of the files upon which a previously-performed step depends? Oct 10 20:09:53 nelson time of the stampfile Oct 10 20:10:07 or better present Oct 10 20:10:12 sorry Oct 10 20:14:31 -rw-r--r-- 1 nelson nelson 4704 2007-10-10 15:55 Makefile.am Oct 10 20:14:31 -rw-r--r-- 1 nelson nelson 41870 2007-10-10 10:59 Makefile.in Oct 10 20:16:09 nelson: bitbake doesn Oct 10 20:16:18 't know about what happens inside a task Oct 10 20:16:41 it just cares about its stamp files Oct 10 20:17:15 if you change makefile.am you have to remove the do_configure stamp or force re-configuration with bitbake -cconfigure -f Oct 10 20:18:08 Ahhhh, so it treats its stamps as a proxy for step completion? Oct 10 20:18:15 right Oct 10 20:31:37 re Oct 10 20:31:58 gd evening Oct 10 20:31:59 he koen Oct 10 20:32:09 back to .nl? Oct 10 20:32:50 yes Oct 10 20:51:49 wb koen Oct 10 20:52:12 hey RP Oct 10 20:52:19 had a safe trip home? Oct 10 20:52:50 hi rp Oct 10 20:57:30 koen: Yes, fine thanks. Luggage has been a bit battered but at least arrived and is still in once piece :) Oct 10 20:57:47 hi woglinde Oct 10 20:58:07 rp uh Oct 10 21:02:50 RP I hope that I have tha same luck as you flying back to brasil ;) Oct 10 21:03:11 hi vivijim Oct 10 21:03:17 vivijim: Fingers crossed. You managed your trip ok so far then? Oct 10 21:03:20 is it cold in helsinki? Oct 10 21:04:09 woglinde: 1 degree in Tampere, +/- 300km from Helsinki Oct 10 21:04:44 Philippe: A lot warmer than when I was last there then :) Oct 10 21:05:10 hi woglinde, yeah it is reaaly cold as Philippe just said :P Oct 10 21:05:28 vivijim: That's not cold ;-) Oct 10 21:05:33 vivijim: not so cold... Oct 10 21:05:50 Just cold enough to start wearing a pullover when you go outside Oct 10 21:06:00 And gloves on the bike Oct 10 21:06:28 Philippe: T shirt weather around here ;-) Oct 10 21:06:41 when did you yesterday leave the restaurant? Oct 10 21:06:55 RP: where are you atm? Oct 10 21:06:59 brazil? Oct 10 21:07:32 Philippe: Newcastle, UK. I mean that 1 degree C is T shirt weather here... Oct 10 21:07:59 RP I know that... the problem is that I'm not used to this cold hehehehe Oct 10 21:08:04 RP: http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/wxclimatology/compare/BRXX0195?sfld1=Recife,%20Brazil&sfld2=helsinki%20finland&clocid1=BRXX0195&clocid2= Oct 10 21:08:26 Philippe: You should see the females queuing outside nightclubs mid-winter with snow on the ground. There is plenty to see ;-) Oct 10 21:08:40 RP: well that's ok for short periods. But with all the wind here I prefer to have a pullover Oct 10 21:09:33 RP: Well I should try to come over then to feel the temperature then Oct 10 21:10:17 Philippe: Its a different kind of cold here, a lot more moisture which makes it feel different. Finland was more pleasant ;-) Oct 10 21:10:50 RP: probably. I remember -5 in Belgium being a lot colder than here... Oct 10 21:10:55 -5 almost feels warm Oct 10 21:11:17 here Oct 10 21:11:48 Philippe: right :) Oct 10 21:12:07 * koen completes the "I am an idiot" form of the travel insurance Oct 10 21:12:50 koen: hope you will get some money back. Oct 10 21:13:10 * Philippe still waits for some info about his claim for his stolen winter tires Oct 10 21:14:35 bah, the idiot fine is €25.76 per document Oct 10 21:15:34 RP: they do that at -20C in Quebec City :) Oct 10 21:16:11 chouimat: here in Finland they wear long coats then... Oct 10 21:16:55 * koen wants a EM-X270 eval kit Oct 10 21:17:14 koen: Join the queue ;-) Oct 10 21:17:17 :D Oct 10 21:17:50 Philippe: I must say those who do this at -20C are usually the "paris hilton" type ... not a huge lost for the universe if they die frozen :) Oct 10 21:18:21 chouimat: :-) Oct 10 21:18:55 chouimat: If it hit -20 here I think they'd try it... Oct 10 21:19:06 hehe Oct 10 21:19:27 One bloke died from exposure a couple of years ago after a night out :/ Oct 10 21:19:53 RP: don't worry sound you will be able to try it ... thanks to global warming the gulf stream will stop so :) Oct 10 21:20:05 s/sound/soon Oct 10 21:20:13 * Philippe remembers carrying a friend home on his back as they wanted to sleep drunk outside when it was -25 Oct 10 21:20:50 s/they/she/ Oct 10 21:21:24 I found zaurus 3100/3200 while moving my office... can I sponsor thes device somebody in #oe? Oct 10 21:21:55 Philippe: I remember once the police drive me and my brother home because we were too drunk to walk Oct 10 21:22:14 chouimat: that's nice. Oct 10 21:22:35 doesn't work anymore in Belgium since they have those new ID's with a chip Oct 10 21:22:58 As they are only around for the last 5 years the cops don't have equipment to read your address Oct 10 21:23:02 gm Oct 10 21:23:05 greentux: I'm sure someone could find a use for it :) Oct 10 21:23:23 so they have to go to the police station to do so, so they just throw you in jail Oct 10 21:23:39 80F here I think Oct 10 21:23:45 still in terminal at Charlotte Oct 10 21:24:25 RP: ok, give me a message if somebody finds that helpful Oct 10 21:24:29 61 emails on the gumstix list in the past 24 hours ..... Oct 10 21:24:47 hi crofton Oct 10 21:24:50 * chouimat wonders what to eat tonight ... maybe a chicken and salmon, with some pilaf rice and some brussel sprout, broccoli and calyflower with a nice mustard sauce ... Oct 10 21:25:20 just wants to get home and fall over Oct 10 21:25:43 Crofton: hang in there . . . almost home! Oct 10 21:25:48 one more flight Oct 10 21:25:51 short hop Oct 10 21:26:00 was it worth it? Oct 10 21:26:04 of course Oct 10 21:26:06 Crofton: don't bother with the gum list... no new news Oct 10 21:26:13 heh Oct 10 21:26:21 greentux: ok Oct 10 21:26:26 Crofton my mother was back from Switzerland last saturday and she had to work last night ... head nurse for whole hospital Oct 10 21:26:34 I triage it pretty hard, mostly working on netwfifMicroSd and display atm Oct 10 21:26:40 urh Oct 10 21:26:47 not a good night to get sick Oct 10 21:26:53 Crofton: don't be elitist just cause you went to OEDEM & we didn't Oct 10 21:26:57 :-) Oct 10 21:27:03 :) Oct 10 21:27:23 RP: i will look tomorrow if these ar one or two, i found also a new of these 5550 device... Oct 10 21:27:27 ir was good, I learned alot about dealing with wifi and displays Oct 10 21:27:39 and we had good discussions Oct 10 21:27:48 it really helps to get i one place and talk about stuff Oct 10 21:27:53 ever get any german food? Oct 10 21:28:07 heh Oct 10 21:28:17 dessert last night was declard Austrian Oct 10 21:28:26 the food was really good Oct 10 21:28:38 hi Crofton, you made your connection then? :) Oct 10 21:28:41 but the natives were not sure if it was German Oct 10 21:28:44 yeah Oct 10 21:28:52 I'm finally back to doing real development again Oct 10 21:28:53 walked from one airplane to the next Oct 10 21:28:57 crofton not at all Oct 10 21:29:01 great Oct 10 21:29:03 Crofton: It would have been German if it was apple but I think it was pear Oct 10 21:29:03 crofton cus-cus is not german Oct 10 21:29:11 Enjoying using ipkg's Oct 10 21:29:15 I had the pork, no couscous Oct 10 21:29:17 Crofton when I went to the kde conference in spain ... the worse was the 6hours in zurich ... try to sleep on those seats and the 2 hours bus drive back from montreal to ottawa (and the 45 minutes bus trip from downtown to my apartment) was tired, hungry and nothing to eat home ... around 10pm I was dead, didn't sleep well way too tired Oct 10 21:29:47 I have been trying to stay awake Oct 10 21:29:55 crofton yeah I eat the pork-steak too Oct 10 21:29:55 then crash when I get home Oct 10 21:30:27 Crofton the 6 hours in zurich was when I was getting there ... Oct 10 21:30:31 crofton but you had your currywurst Oct 10 21:30:36 thats german Oct 10 21:30:51 yes Oct 10 21:31:00 koen bought me a currywurst Oct 10 21:31:06 * RP came back and found he has commitements this evening so no collapse yet :( Oct 10 21:31:31 * Philippe regrets not to have been able to attend Oct 10 21:32:11 I hear I have thesis comments in my inpbox to deal with tomorrow Oct 10 21:32:18 It was good to get a feel for what everyone is hacking on which I didn't have as good an idea of before... Oct 10 21:32:49 Crofton: Did you ever get the touchscreen working? Oct 10 21:32:53 no Oct 10 21:32:57 * RP goes for food Oct 10 21:33:06 why are trying to find the controller Oct 10 21:33:16 we were probing the i2c bus the other day Oct 10 21:33:27 For touchscreen debugging do look at ts_calibrate and the ts_tests package binaries Oct 10 21:33:47 first we need to find the fool thing :) Oct 10 21:33:58 No response from Craig? Oct 10 21:34:06 not sure :) Oct 10 21:34:10 61+ emails Oct 10 21:34:49 RP: the tsc2003.ko can't find the ts on the i2c bus :( Oct 10 21:35:05 I suspect i2c is broken on the gumstix kernel Oct 10 21:35:10 just like dma and wifi Oct 10 21:35:17 and gpio assignments Oct 10 21:35:28 at least we fixed the framebuffer :) Oct 10 21:35:52 koen: ouch, that's a lot of stuff that doesn't work! Oct 10 21:36:06 I'm not sure if it works in buildroot either Oct 10 21:36:09 All my stuff seems to be working now Oct 10 21:36:43 Nice to be able to use ipkgs for updates Oct 10 21:37:07 and the sd driver is broken Oct 10 21:37:19 so basically we had no way to get ipkgs on the device Oct 10 21:37:27 till we found an sd card that worked Oct 10 21:37:39 sounds like a good time :-) Oct 10 21:37:41 * koen should add the RP-mmc patches to the gumstix kernel Oct 10 21:38:08 sakoman: Crofton had plenty time to watch youtube while waiting for kermit to finish uploading Oct 10 21:38:17 I think otheres have had issues based on card types Oct 10 21:38:19 heh Oct 10 21:38:21 blame task-base :-) Oct 10 21:38:31 ok Oct 10 21:38:39 takes 9 minutes for my image Oct 10 21:38:46 heh Oct 10 21:38:46 and that seems like forever! Oct 10 21:38:54 15 for console Oct 10 21:39:00 I need to find the WC and the gate Oct 10 21:39:09 but now with a stable base image I just use ipkgs Oct 10 21:39:12 maybe I can get back on from there Oct 10 21:39:28 they seem to have free wireless in Charlotte now ... Oct 10 21:39:30 btw: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/12675 Oct 10 21:39:44 anyway, thanks for all the food and fun Oct 10 21:40:03 thanks for attending Oct 10 21:40:18 gn Oct 10 21:40:24 * koen zzzz now Oct 10 21:40:29 when is OEDUSM? Oct 10 21:41:09 * koen proposes to switch from TT$ to OEros Oct 10 21:41:13 * koen really zzzz now Oct 10 21:41:22 night koen Oct 10 21:41:25 gn! Oct 10 21:43:42 nite koen Oct 10 21:51:19 ok Charlotte has redeemed itself for the absurd security line Oct 10 21:51:22 free wirless Oct 10 21:51:33 but it's pretty slow Oct 10 21:52:05 * * OE Bug 3141 has been created by aloisio.almeida(AT)openbossa.org Oct 10 21:52:06 * * EFL modifcations Oct 10 21:52:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3141 Oct 10 22:14:56 <[atari]> hi all Oct 10 22:35:16 package fontconfig fails on do_fetch complaining about being " unable to get local issuer certificate" on file https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/fontconfig/device_symbols.h Fetching it manually with wget --no-check-certificate works. Should I make this a bug? Oct 11 00:08:02 kergoth@covenant org.openembedded.dev #org.openembedded.dev!66f022c$ ls openembedded/packages/ Oct 11 00:08:02 ./ ../ .mtn2git_empty pvrusb2-mci/ Oct 11 00:08:13 * kergoth wondesr if that's an mtn2git artifact Oct 11 00:41:47 kergoth: nice Oct 11 00:55:11 kergoth: looks like its used for importing empty directories in fast_import Oct 11 00:55:39 kergoth: its kinda wrong, i think, but hey ;) Oct 11 00:56:47 mtn2git should probably just deal with files, and not have an M line for directories Oct 11 01:14:03 i didnt mean the .mnt2git_empty file, i meant the fact that both org.openembedded.dev/packages and org.openembedded.dev/openembedded/packages exist :P **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 11 02:59:56 2007