**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 13 02:59:56 2007 Oct 13 05:09:05 * * OE Bug 3152 has been created by bluelightning(AT)bluelightning.org Oct 13 05:09:07 * * libqpe-opie_cvs needs version bump Oct 13 05:09:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3152 Oct 13 07:27:04 * * OE Bug 2998 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by inv2002(AT)yandex.ru Oct 13 07:27:06 * *  CF Bluetooth doesn't work on resume (spitz) Oct 13 07:27:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2998 Oct 13 07:31:32 "makedevs: not found" on do_rootfs. What does it mean? Oct 13 07:50:53 good morning all Oct 13 07:59:01 hi koen Oct 13 09:13:37 good morning Oct 13 09:39:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0f147425... 10/ (1 packages/avahi/avahi-ui_0.6.21.bb): avahi-ui: hack to get libavahi-ui built and packaged Oct 13 09:39:15 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfb5bfff0... 10/ (1 packages/avahi/mango-lassi_git.bb): mango-lassi: add git version, needs dbus > 1.1.1 for `dbus_connection_set_allow_anonymous' Oct 13 09:39:44 pH5: I thought you would like that :) Oct 13 09:40:58 koen: you bet :) Oct 13 09:45:52 hi all ! Oct 13 09:46:00 hi steliosk , all! Oct 13 09:49:04 likewise : hi ! I was looking for you. What board did you get with a Freescale cpu ? mpc8323e-rdb ? Oct 13 09:49:43 could somebody do me a favour and try to build ttf-liberation? Oct 13 09:49:59 mpc8313e-rdb (13) Oct 13 09:50:54 steliosk: I guess the core is the same, maybe different pheripherals. I really like the upcoming parts (8314/15) with PCI Express interface. Oct 13 09:51:24 likewise : Does it have voip ports ? Oct 13 09:54:35 steliosk: no, you mean phone jacks? Oct 13 09:57:23 likewise : Yes. The 8323e has analog ports for telephony (fxo/fxs) but looking at the Freescale BSP did not find any drivers for them in the linux kernel... Oct 13 10:15:54 pH5: do hh16 and hh17 boot on your hx? they don't boot on my h2200 :( Oct 13 10:17:08 koen: I didn't try 17 yet, but hh16 runs on hx4700 Oct 13 10:21:47 morning folks. is it me or do the meeting minutes stop after the first day? anyone took minutes for the 2nd day? Oct 13 10:22:38 mickeyl: all the minutes are in a gobby file Oct 13 10:22:53 mickeyl: afaik on zecke's laptop Oct 13 10:24:13 aah Oct 13 10:28:41 morning Oct 13 10:28:54 I have them on laptop Oct 13 10:29:24 morning hrw Oct 13 10:29:33 koen: mango-lassi thing... will you fix it or should I disapprove it? Oct 13 10:29:34 i'd be good to update the minutes file on the web Oct 13 10:30:10 mickeyl: I just sent a proposal to angstrom-dev to (soft) lock down all versions (minus openmoko ones) in angstrom-2007.1.conf to prepare for a december release Oct 13 10:30:17 hrw: what's wrong with it? Oct 13 10:30:34 koen: it is unbuildable when build from scratch Oct 13 10:30:36 koen: nice! Oct 13 10:30:45 koen: total lack of DEPENDS Oct 13 10:30:56 lack of LICENSE Oct 13 10:31:49 hrw: it doesn't have a license upstream Oct 13 10:32:15 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/oedem2007-minutes.txt Oct 13 10:33:01 cool. could you update it on the server? Oct 13 10:33:34 maybe in the evening - going to town in a minutes Oct 13 10:34:27 koen: then atleast add depends Oct 13 10:34:35 hrw: mango-lassi also has another problem: git-native in OE can't fetch it Oct 13 10:34:48 (the wonders of git....) Oct 13 10:35:06 depends added Oct 13 10:35:34 mickeyl: working on your OEDEM blog entry? Oct 13 10:35:55 mickeyl: btw, should be start to coordinate a newsletter effort soon? Oct 13 10:36:04 koen: blog entry pasted Oct 13 10:36:16 koen: yeah, the newsletter effort. zecke should poke gerwin @ t-dose Oct 13 10:36:32 it's important, since we can't rely on us giving presentations at fosdem ;) Oct 13 10:36:44 howdy, does anyone have an idea why might bitbake stall on fetching the kernel sources? it displays the "Running task .. do_fetch)" prompt ant sits forever doing nothing... Oct 13 10:36:50 hrw: you're missing a few lines Oct 13 10:37:25 Henryk: possible Oct 13 10:37:42 * hrw -> cinema, meeting, beer, food etc Oct 13 10:38:15 http://people.openmoko.org/henryk/Minutes.txt and Minutes.obby Oct 13 10:40:13 mickeyl: hmmm, http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/blog/ still has openexpo as the latest entry Oct 13 10:41:27 hmm Oct 13 10:41:28 not from here Oct 13 10:42:26 could you post the url for the entry? Oct 13 10:42:31 http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/10/13/back-from-oedem07/ Oct 13 10:42:57 "Page Not Found Error 404" Oct 13 10:44:25 err Oct 13 10:44:26 * koen heads out for lunch Oct 13 10:44:29 * mickeyl confused Oct 13 10:50:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8c3f6911... 10/ (1 packages/avahi/mango-lassi_git.bb): mango-lassi: add depends Oct 13 10:57:15 heh -> "How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I Oct 13 10:57:16 only coded it." (Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting) Oct 13 11:03:11 "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Knuth Oct 13 11:05:57 http://thelinuxway.blogspot.com/2007/10/ten-funny-quotes-by-linus-torvalds.html Oct 13 11:22:04 * * OE Bug 3153 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Oct 13 11:22:06 * * ttf-liberation do_fetch fails with certification error Oct 13 11:22:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3153 Oct 13 12:43:44 any bitbake experts around? Oct 13 12:44:17 I would like to make a smart perl-cpan.bb recipe, but is not sure how much bitbake hacking it will require.... Oct 13 13:02:43 Esben: afaik we have a cpan.bbclass Oct 13 13:03:45 cpan-base.bbclass Oct 13 13:03:46 cpan.bbclass Oct 13 13:03:46 cpan_build.bbclass Oct 13 13:03:49 * zecke tries to brainwash joern to learn smalltalk Oct 13 13:04:01 zecke: I missed your call because I was already asleep, sorry Oct 13 13:05:01 don't worry, I just slept at the trainstation until they kicked me out :} Oct 13 13:07:38 koen: yes, and they work fine. Oct 13 13:08:10 but, we need a seperate bb recipe for each cpan module Oct 13 13:08:18 and there are MANY cpan modules... Oct 13 13:51:07 hi all Oct 13 13:51:13 hi gremlin Oct 13 13:51:36 where i can find a big (or svg) OE logo ... i'm writing a presentation for LinuxDay (Italy) Oct 13 13:52:11 look in the contrib directory Oct 13 13:52:13 oe.svg Oct 13 13:53:15 thanks mickeyl ! Oct 13 13:58:58 koen: potterling is a idiot... Oct 13 13:59:10 an Oct 13 13:59:27 koen: I want to see how he is encoding/decoding 16 mpeg streams in parallel... Oct 13 14:01:01 zecke: in software? Oct 13 14:01:20 yes Oct 13 14:01:31 he saif mpeg hardware is not needed anymore... Oct 13 14:01:56 lol Oct 13 14:02:17 he meantioned fpga nor? Oct 13 14:02:21 meantioned Oct 13 14:02:34 omgx0r. naked chicks. Oct 13 14:02:39 I love linux. Oct 13 14:03:38 now to make my gumstix use encrypted fs on sd cards.hmm Oct 13 14:06:32 nn: have fun Oct 13 14:16:10 re Oct 13 14:44:12 is there some script to update conf/checksums.ini? Oct 13 14:45:24 gerwinin: are you around? Oct 13 14:45:29 Shoragan: no :) Oct 13 14:46:00 zecke, should it be sorted? Oct 13 14:46:11 Shoragan: z-sort (= whatever I like) Oct 13 14:46:26 :) Oct 13 14:46:44 Shoragan: I try to group them though (same PN next to each other) Oct 13 14:46:58 ok Oct 13 14:47:15 Shoragan: You will get cookies rewarded for updating it Oct 13 14:47:37 * koen discovers a bottle of mate in his luggage Oct 13 14:47:50 haha Oct 13 14:47:59 I wonder where I'm going to sleep tonight Oct 13 14:51:21 cya later Oct 13 14:53:07 03purdyd_at_wisheights 07org.oe.dev * r45938c4e... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): gutenprint: add gutenprint native (need cups-native and libijs-native on host) Oct 13 15:04:00 mickey|relaxing: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc Oct 13 15:13:35 koen: what is that? Oct 13 15:36:40 Shoragan: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-October/000771.html Oct 13 15:36:58 thanks Oct 13 15:38:33 there are some errors in there, e.g svn packages have no proper version, but it's a start Oct 13 15:39:45 djeez Oct 13 15:39:52 a top-poster hijacked the thread Oct 13 16:28:42 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * rc7425c42... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): linux-openmoko-devel: update to 2.6.23.1 Oct 13 16:38:45 03stefan 07org.oe.dev * rba74774a... 10/ (1 packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins.inc): gst-plugins.inc: conifugre parameter should start with two hyphens instead of one. Oct 13 16:46:20 re Oct 13 16:47:14 Ally McBeal und Ling Oct 13 16:48:07 koen, mickeyl, debian has received confirmation for their devroom at fosdem 2008, so prehaps we should contact them now Oct 13 17:45:16 Henryk: welcome on board! Oct 13 17:49:39 thanks, koen Oct 13 17:50:12 you should have a mail with some standard blurb in your mailbox Oct 13 17:52:51 koen: why do we use do_stage() Oct 13 17:54:33 hmm, who added the gutenprint recipe? There's a file missing Oct 13 17:54:50 * koen denies everything Oct 13 18:19:39 hrw|gone: I fixed linux-openmoko-devel for you Oct 13 18:22:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb7fa0aff... 10/ (1 packages/gutenprint/gutenprint_5.1.3.bb): gutenprint: add 5.1.3, this doesn't work yet, but -native needs it Oct 13 18:22:42 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf49dde3d... 10/ (1 packages/gutenprint/ijs_0.35.bb): ijs: add 0.35 Oct 13 18:24:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9058454e... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openmoko-devel_svn+2.6.23.1.bb): linux-openmoko-devel: use patch instead of forcing people to download 40MB every time the nano version gets bumped, also apply patch using patch.bbclass instead of inside silly do_prepatch hack Oct 13 18:32:12 koen: hmm, which mailaddress did you send the blurb to? Oct 13 18:32:48 I replied to your mail, so probably dawn,selfip.net Oct 13 18:33:14 koen: oh, right Oct 13 18:34:23 should I resend to ploetzli.ch ? Oct 13 18:35:58 ah, i see, i forgot to update the dyndns. should now get through when the mta does its next delivery attempt Oct 13 18:36:24 Ohdamn Oct 13 18:36:31 hm, monotone.openembedded.org are down now? Oct 13 18:36:43 Darth_Wader: wasnt 2 minutes ago Oct 13 18:37:01 right now mtn pull stops at "mtn: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org Oct 13 18:37:20 Darth_Wader: restart it, i've had to try a few times Oct 13 18:37:34 server maybe just busy Oct 13 18:37:36 Darth_Wader: I got an I/O-error several minutes ago, retried 5 minutes ago, and the transfer stopped 2 minutes ago Oct 13 18:37:54 hm, maybe it really busy Oct 13 18:38:06 just got connection.. Oct 13 18:38:11 * nn needs more of these lovely cable locks Oct 13 18:38:26 got my laptops chained together to my mac to a big waterpipe Oct 13 18:38:49 now just gotta chain down the cisco gear and the server Oct 13 18:57:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8452c2a2... 10/ (1 packages/gutenprint/gutenprint_5.1.3.bb): gutenprint: fix packaging, it builds for me now Oct 13 19:08:04 * * OE Bug 1570 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2554 by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com Oct 13 19:08:06 * *  ncurses-native-5.4-r8 OE install fails to place libncurses.so. 5 correctly Oct 13 19:08:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1570 Oct 13 19:23:30 koen: does that mango-lassi recipe work for you? Oct 13 19:23:42 I can't fetch it. The git clone works fine, but the first git pull returns Oct 13 19:23:45 error: pick-rref: HEAD not found Oct 13 19:23:50 No such ref HEAD at http://git.0pointer.de/repos/mango-lassi.git/ Oct 13 19:24:25 git pull without the url works fine. Oct 13 19:26:13 morning Oct 13 19:26:21 hi hrw|tv Oct 13 19:26:36 koen: thx for that linux openmoko fix Oct 13 19:26:49 * pH5 prefers lime+ginger lassi anyway. Oct 13 20:38:39 pH5: I pulled and uploaded a tarball to the angstrom source mirror Oct 13 20:38:47 it's git, so we expect it to break Oct 13 20:41:28 ah right, how could I forget :) Oct 13 20:42:01 * koen|away is debugging gmythstream/gmencoder Oct 13 20:42:16 root@lieve:/usr/src/gmyth-stream/gmencoder/src# grep goto gmencoder.c | wc -l Oct 13 20:42:17 24 Oct 13 20:43:12 * koen|away hates nuppelvideo with a vengeance Oct 13 21:08:59 koen: what I was trying to figure out earlier today, was if there are any way to write a bb recipe that at the configure and compile stages can now which packages are required (directly requested or a dependency of something requested) Oct 13 21:09:46 this way I could write a bb recipe that could pull down and build any required cpan modules without having to maintain a zillion small lib***-perl.bb files Oct 13 21:23:32 well, you could have a recipe that takes information from PN and a lot of soft-links to it (similar to the way busybox works). (Not sure though how/if monotone would handle soft-links). Or dynamically extend PACKAGES. Still don't think this would be a good thing. Oct 13 21:25:50 or write a script that writes those recipes Oct 13 21:30:27 That was my first thought. I could write a small script that writes all those recipes based on the cpan metadata. Oct 13 21:32:09 I would do that way Oct 13 21:32:16 and commit script into contrib Oct 13 21:32:34 OE metadata would then have to be updated every time there is a change in CPAN (lots of modules are only present in the latest version) Oct 13 21:32:48 which is very very often. Oct 13 21:33:30 or else we would just have to accept that we at any time have a number of broken cpan recipes in current metadata.... Oct 13 21:35:30 which we will be able to bump even by hand if needed Oct 13 21:59:04 Ok, I'll take a look at writing a script for maintaining cpan recipes, one per module, and then submit this and some recipes generated by it. Oct 13 22:56:29 03henryk 07org.oe.dev * r5845bcf9... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Oct 13 22:56:29 mono: add recipe for building from svn Oct 13 22:56:29 * new svn recipes for mono-mcs-intermediate and mono (disabled with DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" Oct 13 22:56:29 * common mono-mcs-intermediate recipe code moved to include file Oct 13 23:56:28 hmm, BTW: any news on the issue that email addresses @openmoko.org couldn't register with the oe bugtracker? stefan_schmidt? ggilbert? Oct 14 02:28:45 Hey folks, any issues with installing oe in my home directory (running fedora 7)? Or do I have to be root and put in /stuff? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 14 02:59:56 2007