**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 19 02:59:58 2007 Oct 19 03:54:51 * davygravy is away: ...for a while... Oct 19 03:57:48 oh look. I'm away to. *pfft* Oct 19 06:26:32 how do i tell oe to not build qemu-native but use a host available version ? Oct 19 06:55:41 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r947449a1... 10/ (1 packages/telepathy/libtelepathy_0.2.0.bb): libtelepathy: add 0.2.0 Oct 19 06:55:45 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7723c5a5... 10/ (1 packages/telepathy/telepathy-glib_0.6.0.bb): telepathy-glib: add 0.6.0 Oct 19 06:55:50 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r466773a4... 10/ (1 packages/telepathy/telepathy-mission-control_4.45.bb): telepathy-mission-control: add 4.45 Oct 19 07:28:51 re Oct 19 07:29:00 or even: morning Oct 19 07:36:36 morning Oct 19 07:39:48 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r320cf2f1... 10/ (1 packages/telepathy/telepathy-python_0.14.0.bb): telepathy: add telepathy-python 0.14.0 Oct 19 07:39:53 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r3e66402a... 10/ (1 packages/telepathy/empathy_0.14.bb): empathy: add 0.14 Oct 19 07:44:57 good morning all Oct 19 07:46:23 moin Oct 19 08:06:22 nice? http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/html/x270-em-datasheet.htm Oct 19 08:09:12 keesj: compulab themselves did the OE support :) Oct 19 08:12:04 * * OE Bug 3176 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Oct 19 08:12:06 * * empathy-0.14-r0-do_configure Oct 19 08:12:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3176 Oct 19 08:12:35 koen: so they have good karma! Oct 19 08:37:47 morning Oct 19 08:41:26 morning Oct 19 08:49:05 hey mickey|tw Oct 19 08:50:16 yo koen Oct 19 08:51:02 mickey|tw: are you there yet? Oct 19 08:51:11 yes. Oct 19 08:51:15 tired Oct 19 08:51:16 but there Oct 19 08:51:30 took over HaraldĀ“s office :D Oct 19 08:51:42 hehe Oct 19 08:52:03 * zecke is going to IKEA tomorrow, so I will have a fridge+bed soon :( Oct 19 08:52:13 excellent Oct 19 08:54:02 zecke: Congratulations! Oct 19 08:55:29 * CM didn't know IKEA had that combo for sale Oct 19 08:55:32 mickey|tw: watch the next commit Oct 19 08:56:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd83ba938... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): Oct 19 08:56:02 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc: add file for locking down almost every package Oct 19 08:56:02 ** THIS WILL BE INCLUDED SOON -- REVIEW IT!!! ** Oct 19 08:56:04 * * OE Bug 3177 has been created by  Oct 19 08:56:06 * * Sepukku.bbclass can't attach logs anymore Oct 19 08:56:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3177 Oct 19 09:00:42 mickey: there is no way to get a list of all included packages for a specific image from bitbake is there ? apart from the -s option .. with a bit of grep'ing and sed'ing I can get what I want.. but I was just wondering if I just wasted my time :) Oct 19 09:03:28 mickey: eeh.. -g not -s Oct 19 09:10:51 zecke : hehe. hope you like it. It's the best ouzo :) Oct 19 09:11:50 koen : also even with the new kernel build x does not start on i486 i assume the same must be on the other "generic" Oct 19 09:13:28 steliosk: I never dran it before, but I will drink more and the bottle is not yet empty Oct 19 09:13:43 steliosk: my boss is Stephan Skrodzki (skrodzki@gmit-gmbh.de) Oct 19 09:14:24 zecke : use just ice with ouzo to get the flavour and let the ice melt Oct 19 09:15:06 zecke : thanks, I'll send him a thank you email, for letting us use the office (and abuse the coffee machine) Oct 19 09:19:15 zecke : What do you think by selectivly coping the Dreambox files we need in order to sync it with .dev, instead of a single patch ? Oct 19 09:19:44 zecke : It's more work but i think it allows to control what gets in Oct 19 09:19:46 destroy's history and doesn't ease future merging :) Oct 19 09:20:10 but I need to work now :} Oct 19 09:21:17 ok. let me know when you have some time to discuss about this, as i am kind of confused because koen said that history is not lost when copying things from one mtn branch to another Oct 19 09:22:53 steliosk: well, copying from one branch to another == merge Oct 19 09:28:42 steliosk: s/copy/propagate/ Oct 19 09:32:44 good morning Oct 19 09:33:13 well i was thinking of doing things in a controlled way, by selecting what gets merge and what's not because the dreambox branch is based on a rather "old" version of OE/bitbake Oct 19 09:33:48 another question is if they would interested to change toolchain i.e move to gcc 4.1.1 Oct 19 09:34:54 Hi. Oct 19 09:35:41 I'm using busybox for handling the inittab, but what do i have to do so busybox copies the inittab to the rootfs, just like sysvinit? Oct 19 09:37:06 hrw : Any idea why X won't start on i486/Angstrom ? the fb0 device is there Oct 19 09:37:32 avahi also seems to have a tough time to bring up the inet Oct 19 09:38:25 steliosk: no idea Oct 19 09:39:10 steliosk: you can use 'mtn propagate' to merge single revisions from branch to branch Oct 19 09:41:37 hrw : probably i need to spend some more "quality time" with the mtn manual Oct 19 09:42:15 dull question.. why does IMAGE_INSTALL="devimage" work, but adding console does not? (ie is not found by bitbake) Oct 19 10:03:15 * Crofton|home curses the git fetcher Oct 19 10:03:34 can I asumme provided git-native? Oct 19 10:08:22 Crofton|home: and people still insist using git cures cancer and brings worldpeace Oct 19 10:08:29 I guess they aren't using 64bit machines Oct 19 10:09:06 and building with OE Oct 19 10:10:34 ASSUME_PROVIDED += "git-native" Oct 19 10:10:49 any chance this will stop the git fetcher from building it's own git? Oct 19 10:15:20 koen: git works on my 64bit Oct 19 10:15:30 git works fine on 64 bit machines, just not fron within OE Oct 19 10:15:57 Crofton|home: I have git on host and build git-native from OE Oct 19 10:16:03 no problems with fetching Oct 19 10:16:07 hmmm Oct 19 10:16:29 I have two fedora machine with 64 bit installs, and git fetch does not work Oct 19 10:16:43 fedora... I use debian Oct 19 10:16:43 SO iahve to do davinci builds on 32 bit machine Oct 19 10:17:26 when you have spare cycles, can you try build minimal-image for machine davinci-dvevm? Oct 19 10:17:42 angstrom? Oct 19 10:17:48 of course :) Oct 19 10:17:58 ok, I have angstrom builddir here Oct 19 10:18:05 I'll try and post something in bugilla Oct 19 10:18:16 right now I am trying to get something working Oct 19 10:23:22 does anyone know if the copyright notice must be added to to MIT licenced file when making changes ? As is the case with GPL files Oct 19 10:23:48 the MIT licence template does state copyright and year Oct 19 10:23:59 No one who can help me? :| Oct 19 10:24:02 http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php Oct 19 10:33:06 it looks like it does -> http://www.xfree86.org/current/LICENSE5.html Oct 19 10:33:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8dce3ad8... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): gypsy: merge (with cleanups) from poky Oct 19 10:33:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5330f973... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: add gypsy Oct 19 10:39:56 * XorA thinks broonie is a bit bipolar today Oct 19 10:46:08 koen : xserver-xorg fails to build. Fails duting install -> http://rafb.net/p/pCMnhs86.html Oct 19 10:48:06 looks like a typo Oct 19 10:58:03 steliosk: exactly Oct 19 11:15:57 steliosk: /storage/angstrom/tmp/libc/staging/i686-linux/bin/install-sh: ./-m0644 does not exist. Oct 19 11:16:11 steliosk: I've seen that in other packages as well, no idea what is causing that Oct 19 11:18:00 install does not like -m0644 instead of '-m 0644' Oct 19 11:23:04 its because install is a shell script and uses shift to process arguments Oct 19 11:27:42 e-sausage: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/1631567640/in/photostream/ Oct 19 11:36:52 CIA-3: is lagged today? Oct 19 11:38:05 http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t57741.html Oct 19 11:39:48 hi, I've searched around the net but I've found 0 solution! Can I install openmoko on my tytn II (kaiser)? How? Oct 19 11:40:47 mb: first run linux on it Oct 19 11:41:17 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rc4e3261e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Oct 19 11:41:17 packages/linux/linux-x86-2.6.20/i486-defconfig : Make x86 kernel "generic" by building most Oct 19 11:41:17 things as modules Oct 19 11:41:17 Bump PR Oct 19 11:41:21 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r2e2fceb9... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Oct 19 11:41:21 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg_1.3.0.0.bb : Fix a typo that broke xserver-xorg during Oct 19 11:41:21 install Oct 19 11:41:21 Bump PR Oct 19 11:41:27 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r62840d70... 10/ (1 packages/check/check_0.9.2.bb): check: stage pkgconfig data (from Poky) Oct 19 11:42:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r136745c1... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom-2007-preferred-versions: fix svn and mickeyl PR entries Oct 19 11:42:24 hrw: I didn't understod man, what does it mean? 0_o Oct 19 11:42:33 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r88309067... 10/ (1 packages/exmap-console/exmap-console_svn.bb): exmap-console: switch to SRCREV (from Poky) Oct 19 11:42:37 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfef30695... 10/ (1 packages/exmap-console/exmap-console.inc): exmap-console require glib-2.0 (from Poky) Oct 19 11:43:18 eeks! Oct 19 11:43:20 http://rafb.net/p/nm124232.html Oct 19 11:43:25 mb: tytn II is windowsmobile phone. Oct 19 11:43:34 mb: openmoko is linux distro Oct 19 11:44:13 mb: so first you need to run linux on tytn II, then do openmoko Oct 19 11:44:34 Crofton|home: NOTE: package minimal-image-1.0-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 19 11:44:53 weird Oct 19 11:44:56 Crofton|home: for davinci-dvevm Oct 19 11:45:00 I'll do some more poking Oct 19 11:45:15 assume_provided += git-native is also working for me Oct 19 11:45:18 thanks Oct 19 11:46:48 hrw: well, I know that...probably I'm confused but...if openmoko is a linux distro...and I need to run linux first on kaiser...I need to run openmoko on kaiser...is the same, or not? Oct 19 11:47:06 koen , hrw : xserver-xorg fails to start also Oct 19 11:47:19 I never used xserver-xorg from OE Oct 19 11:47:26 mb: linux is kernel Oct 19 11:47:29 koen: I did Oct 19 11:47:35 koen: progear used it Oct 19 11:47:46 koen , hrw : avahi seems to have problems to bring the ethernet up, but doing it manually (i.e ifup eth0) works Oct 19 11:48:05 avahi doesn't bring up interfaces Oct 19 11:48:44 hrw: man, linux is a kernel, owkee...probably my english is shit...then...how to do kernel linux works on the kaiser? Oct 19 11:49:47 udhcp executes 00avahi-autoipd Oct 19 11:49:55 mb: ask on #htclinux or #htc-linux (one of them) Oct 19 11:50:38 steliosk: udhcp also doesn't bring up a network interface Oct 19 11:51:07 steliosk: ifup and friends bring up and interface, udhcp and avahi run after that from ifup.d Oct 19 11:51:09 ok, let me re-phrase . Get an ip from the dhcp server Oct 19 11:51:40 avahi runs if you can't get an ip from dhcp Oct 19 11:51:43 it's a fallback Oct 19 11:54:09 well even the fallback does not work when bringing the system up. you have to do it by hand Oct 19 11:55:39 ok here are some info Oct 19 11:56:03 Starting Avahi/mDns blah blah Oct 19 11:56:26 timeout reached while waiting for return value Oct 19 11:57:02 uld not receive return value from daemon process Oct 19 11:57:50 ah Oct 19 11:57:59 I suspect that's a missing kernel feature Oct 19 11:58:08 netlink or something like that Oct 19 11:58:53 hmmm "Starting system message bus : Unknow group "netdev" in message bus configuration file Oct 19 11:59:32 that's udevish probably Oct 19 11:59:46 that's dbus Oct 19 12:00:34 * koen think it's ironic that people who shout that .dev is moving too fast aren't helping with the angstrom freeze file Oct 19 12:00:38 thinks* Oct 19 12:02:19 koen: I find humans funny in general Oct 19 12:03:39 zecke: should bitbake crash if I put in add a bogus PREFERRED_VERSION to local.conf? Oct 19 12:03:57 it should not, and IIRC there is a bug report open for it Oct 19 12:04:16 I keep getting: Oct 19 12:04:18 File "/data/build/oe/bitbake/lib/bb/providers.py", line 230, in _filterProviders Oct 19 12:04:18 newver = "%s-%s" % (newvers[1], newvers[2]) Oct 19 12:04:19 IndexError: string index out of range Oct 19 12:04:41 and bitbake refuses to tell me for what PREFERRED_VERSION that is happening Oct 19 12:05:37 hehe Oct 19 12:10:37 koen: is that with the 'freeze' file you are comitting to? Oct 19 12:11:14 zecke: yes Oct 19 12:11:51 zecke: http://rafb.net/p/LUWk5R96.html Oct 19 12:12:24 koen: I give you a time slot at 16:30h ;) Oct 19 12:13:22 hmmm Oct 19 12:13:43 it seems to be in PREFERRED_VERSION_wireless-tools ?= "28" Oct 19 12:14:11 which is a valid PV Oct 19 12:14:13 koen: you want 29pre not 28 Oct 19 12:14:39 we probably need to add final 29 even Oct 19 12:23:20 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r357ffb48... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gnutls: drop autoconf 2.59 hack (synced from Poky) Oct 19 12:23:26 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r45df3270... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-engines/gtk-clearlooks-engine_0.6.2.bb): gtk-clearlooks-engine: fix debug packaging (from Poky) Oct 19 12:23:31 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re5c28633... 10/ (1 packages/gtkhtml2/gtkhtml2_svn.bb): gtkhtml2: change to SRCREV (from Poky) Oct 19 12:23:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9551a443... 10/ (1 packages/hostap/hostap-utils_0.4.7.bb): hostap-utils: promote 0.4.7 to be default Oct 19 12:23:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5b73de81... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc: formatting and fixes Oct 19 12:26:40 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8731c6b5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc: workaround bitbake bugs 'bitbake x11-image' works without bitbake choking Oct 19 12:59:10 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1fc8e988... 10/ (1 packages/keymaps/keymaps_1.0.bb): keymaps: start after psplash (from Poky) Oct 19 12:59:15 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6205330e... 10/ (1 site/ix86-common): site/ix86-common: removed repeated entry for ac_cv_linux_vers Oct 19 12:59:19 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7479d49c... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): zlib: cleanup Oct 19 13:00:20 koen: ah yes the famous "teh nevers[] array" Oct 19 13:08:58 koen: In that email do you mean there are one or two bugs? Oct 19 13:10:20 Does anyone have any idea what's going on with bug 3085? Oct 19 13:10:29 hi Oct 19 13:11:19 Ho do I tell OE to rebuild the complete set of images for my device including zImage? (I removed ../deploy/images/ dir and OE is looking for the image) Oct 19 13:11:26 I tried bitbake -c rebuild x11-image Oct 19 13:11:29 doesn't work Oct 19 13:14:12 dcordes: rebuild virtual/kernel and image? Oct 19 13:19:32 * broonie2 suspects there may be something with his host system triggering 3085 or more people would be noticing it but can't think what. Oct 19 13:20:37 broonie2: I suspect that most of OE users use 4.1.x gcc Oct 19 13:22:47 It's not the default (I'm just trying to build vanilla console-image)... will give that a spin. Oct 19 13:23:54 hrw: I'm trying to build dvb_usb support into my zaurus Oct 19 13:26:06 broonie: install gfortran Oct 19 13:26:33 or broonie2 install gfortran Oct 19 13:28:56 * broonie2 will give that a go first. Oct 19 13:31:16 Ah, that looks like it did the trick. Oct 19 13:32:24 Thanks. Oct 19 13:34:20 can you add that to bug Oct 19 13:34:35 * XorA didnt know bug existed Oct 19 13:34:36 Already done. Oct 19 13:35:25 NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: Oct 19 13:35:26 NOTE: /usr/share/dates/landwater.vmf Oct 19 13:38:02 XorA: did you try dvb on your zaurus? Oct 19 13:38:17 dcordes: no Oct 19 13:38:31 dcordes: ABC|doc on Angstrom wanted to though Oct 19 13:38:46 I just was talking to him Oct 19 13:38:52 he has no device yet Oct 19 13:39:01 I've got dvb-t usb 2.0 here. wideview one Oct 19 13:39:07 coredump tried Oct 19 13:39:13 zaurus lack bandwidth Oct 19 13:39:20 zecke: is the dvb master :-D Oct 19 13:39:20 hm damn Oct 19 13:39:37 I read dvb-t needs an average of 3-4 mbit/s Oct 19 13:39:57 XorA: doesn't the clamshell's usb provide more? Oct 19 13:40:14 dcordes: no idea on that hardware Oct 19 13:40:15 dcordes: well, a) you need a USB device with hardware pid filtering Oct 19 13:40:22 dcordes: but its probably CPU bound Oct 19 13:40:23 XorA: and tmbinc is the real dvb master in this channel Oct 19 13:40:42 zecke: a whole master heirachy :-) Oct 19 13:41:08 good to know that the masters are present that plenty here Oct 19 13:42:05 zecke: what's pid filtering? Oct 19 13:42:31 dcordes: the whole transport stream on one channel can be up to 14mbit/s Oct 19 13:42:45 dcordes: if you don't filter on hardware the whole stream goes to your CPU over USB Oct 19 13:43:02 zecke: so there's a lot of crap in the signal? Oct 19 13:43:09 it's one multiplex Oct 19 13:43:15 few tv channels Oct 19 13:43:16 dcordes: well, TV is crap anyway Oct 19 13:43:17 which I need to get rid off in order to realize it with usb 1.1? Oct 19 13:43:18 in one stram Oct 19 13:43:24 hah yes.... Oct 19 13:43:25 stream Oct 19 13:44:13 dcordes: well you want one 'TV program' from all the available ones. Oct 19 13:44:22 zecke: which modules do I want to build to just try out? Oct 19 13:44:48 dcordes: and one 'tv program' can contain few audio streams, applications stream etc.. Oct 19 13:44:49 the linux dvb ones? Oct 19 13:44:53 my desktop system loads dvb_usb dvb_core dvb_usb_dtt200u dvb_pll Oct 19 13:45:11 is that all I need? Oct 19 13:45:28 dcordes: be a hero and try it yourself? Oct 19 13:45:58 i assume it is not going to work, because you will overload your USB 1.1 bus and if not decoding the mpeg2 will.... Oct 19 13:46:20 you think the zs are too slow? Oct 19 13:46:24 hrw: thanks for fixing up the lmsensors. worked after I updated. Oct 19 13:47:38 christopher: np Oct 19 13:47:55 christopher: I fixed that bcause during oedem we needed i2c tools to hack gumstix Oct 19 13:49:39 hrw: cool. yeah, right now I am trying to talk to a video decoder but it isn't responding at all. Oct 19 13:49:40 where can I find the metadata for the kernel-module* packages? Oct 19 13:54:29 dcordes: bitbake virtual/kernel and see what gets build? (do a dry run...) Oct 19 13:56:00 zecke: linux-rp-2.6.22-r10. Oct 19 13:56:24 dcordes: you are allowed to think, how do you find linux-rp now? Oct 19 13:57:19 I know where that is Oct 19 13:57:43 I already got to cd to that dir with my brainpower Oct 19 13:58:13 ! Oct 19 13:58:19 :( Oct 19 13:59:10 RP: small favour to ask: do you have any .fcf config files for XDB zylonite blob flash programming. We only have the M$ ones..... Oct 19 14:00:38 zecke: but how to create seperate module packages now? Oct 19 14:01:23 dcordes: change the kernel config to build modules... Oct 19 14:02:05 zecke: can I achieve that with make menucofnig? Oct 19 14:02:10 menuconfig Oct 19 14:02:45 dcordes: yes you can, make sure to set the right ARCH (otherwise you will use the arch of your current machine) Oct 19 14:04:36 zecke: the result I get is the defconfig, right? Oct 19 14:05:05 dcordes: well, it will be in .config and you should copy it to the defconfig used by linux-rp... Oct 19 14:05:41 * hrw has zaurus configs with nearly everything enabled.. Oct 19 14:05:52 one day I will try them finally Oct 19 14:06:07 hrw: need! Oct 19 14:09:05 cbrake: around? tried adding binutils to the "minimal-image-with-mtd" .. build of binutils fails Oct 19 14:09:39 angstrom 2007 / uclibc / binutils-2.18 -- that should build or shouldn't it ? Oct 19 14:10:27 undefined reference to `frexp' Oct 19 14:11:11 zecke: so I just replace akita.defconfig with .config I created with make menuconfig (under attention of architecture)? Oct 19 14:11:44 http://pastebin.com/d6eebd919 -- output of the failed build Oct 19 14:12:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r34181b73... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libxpm: add dependency on libsm (from Poky) Oct 19 14:12:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r15f13f23... 10/ (1 packages/wv/wv_1.2.0.bb): wv: cleanup, added missing fields (from Poky) Oct 19 14:16:14 openembedded.org down? Oct 19 14:19:23 koen: I now have BF548. Will ship on Monday :) Oct 19 14:19:35 lrg: great! thanks! Oct 19 14:19:38 zecke: ok I quit flooding the channel with beginner questions :) Oct 19 14:20:02 Does anyone know of any oe packages that build kernel modules? I'm looking for an example to copy. Oct 19 14:20:25 but one last thing. Is there no other way to create a module package but defining it in the kernel config and rebuilding the virtual/kernel? Oct 19 14:20:26 koen: it even comes with gold plated USB and a 2.5in HD Oct 19 14:20:59 dcordes: questions are good, as long as you don't forget to think Oct 19 14:21:05 lrg: yes, 40GB Oct 19 14:21:11 I read the manual :) Oct 19 14:21:23 koen: heh, I didn't Oct 19 14:21:25 dcordes: no sane one Oct 19 14:21:55 lrg: it also includes a 1GB SD card and a usb stick Oct 19 14:22:07 lrg: it is one sweet devboard Oct 19 14:22:30 koen: sure is, although SD is 256MB on this one Oct 19 14:23:33 zecke: ok. I cannot find where to set the architecture to arm in "Processor type and features". Is that the right place to look at? Oct 19 14:23:54 lrg: more than enough for some uclibc image :) Oct 19 14:24:05 dcordes: google for cross compiling and linux kernel Oct 19 14:24:11 koen: enough for some pr0n ! Oct 19 14:24:30 lrg: ah, that's why they included the hd :) Oct 19 14:24:33 heh Oct 19 14:24:44 dcordes: e.g "make ARCH arm menuconfig" and you will find an answer Oct 19 14:25:04 ARCH=arm Oct 19 14:25:36 koen: psst Oct 19 14:26:52 hrw: does libfakekey have a SRCREV in poky? Oct 19 14:27:00 koen: moment Oct 19 14:27:12 yes Oct 19 14:27:16 * koen was looking at Upgrading libfakekey0 on root from 0.2+svn20051101-r2 to 0.2+svn20070422-r2... Oct 19 14:29:12 matchbox keyboard looks a lot better now with the increased contrast Oct 19 14:29:22 sadly it doesn't fit on the neo screen anymore... Oct 19 14:29:26 koen: OE also have srcrev now Oct 19 14:29:43 hrw: so, when you used i2cdetect, did you have a lot of addresses show up as available? I only see 1 address as UU that I have already defined and most have their number by them. Oct 19 14:30:03 christopher: I did not used it Oct 19 14:31:31 hrw: ok. Oct 19 14:33:01 zecke: koen is that all I need to set? Doesn't OE configure the hell out of the kernel before the akita.defconf is ready? Oct 19 14:35:21 dcordes: there is plenty of documentation on how to configure a kernel, read that Oct 19 14:35:42 dcordes: OE assumes that you have a config file, it is not there to create one for you Oct 19 14:36:27 zecke: it only applies all those patches eh? Oct 19 14:36:45 dcordes yes and build the kernel packages and module Oct 19 14:37:55 can't I run make menuconfig with the basic configuration which is already there so I don't have to put all that stuff like arch? (I mean OE has to have that/do that somehow, doesn't it)? Oct 19 14:38:23 dcordes: bitbake -cconfigure virtual/kernel? Oct 19 14:38:37 dcordes: then switch to the ${WORKDIR} of linux-rp? Oct 19 14:38:46 bitbake -c menuconfig? Oct 19 14:38:56 there is a menuconfig task? Oct 19 14:39:15 zecke: does that output akita.defconfig or .config in the kerneldir? Oct 19 14:39:41 Shoragan: yes Oct 19 14:39:48 bitbake -clisttasks virtual/kernel Oct 19 14:39:49 Shoragan: since two weeks or so Oct 19 14:39:57 koen, nice :) Oct 19 14:40:26 I'm confused. Shall I use -c configure or -c menuconfig now? Oct 19 14:40:43 Shoragan: http://rafb.net/p/yGht8d46.txt Oct 19 14:40:54 is there a way do ask bitbake for easily a parseable dependency tree? Oct 19 14:41:04 -g ? Oct 19 14:41:52 ah :) Oct 19 14:42:15 Shoragan: it is using the graphiv dot format, but "dot" takes ages to generate a nice graphic Oct 19 14:42:43 i just need the information, not a graphic Oct 19 14:44:24 s/iv/viz/ Oct 19 14:46:54 * mwester ended up writing a perl script to bludgeon the dot files into coughing up information. "Ve haf vays to make you talk!!!" Oct 19 14:49:13 koen : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219269 Oct 19 14:49:31 send em to gitmo! Oct 19 14:51:12 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9586876c... 10/ (1 packages/libfakekey/libfakekey_svn.bb): libfakekey: switch to SRCREV (from Poky) Oct 19 14:51:26 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8e58275d... 10/ (1 packages/sysfsutils/sysfsutils_2.0.0.bb): sysfsutils: split libsysfs to separate package (with dev and dbg ones) (from Poky) Oct 19 14:54:38 mwester, is that script available somewhere? Oct 19 14:59:43 morning Oct 19 15:01:44 Shoragan: http://www.pastebin.ca/742449 Oct 19 15:02:05 thanks Oct 19 15:02:06 That's the most generic one -- I usually just grep the output from that script Oct 19 15:03:32 ah Oct 19 15:07:32 hi mr_nice Oct 19 15:07:39 woglinde: hi Oct 19 15:16:53 mwester: http://www.pastebin.ca/742463 is better perl version (by Ebassi from OH) Oct 19 15:24:04 * * OE Bug 3178 has been created by tobias.pflug(AT)gmx.net Oct 19 15:24:06 * * binutils 2.18 / uclibc : linking error Oct 19 15:24:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3178 Oct 19 15:25:31 bye Oct 19 15:31:29 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r6ad6f2ba... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Oct 19 15:31:29 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-appearance_svn.bb : add appearance an application Oct 19 15:31:29 to edit appearence params Oct 19 15:31:33 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3b383ec1... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): sato-icon-theme: sync with Poky Oct 19 15:31:40 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re0fcc3e1... 10/ (1 packages/libxml/libxml2_2.6.29.bb): libxml2: drop useless note Oct 19 15:34:27 hrw|gone: planning on adding a SRCREV for libfakekey? Oct 19 15:34:50 hrw|gone: Oct 19 15:34:52 -PV = "0.2+svn${SRCDATE}" Oct 19 15:34:52 +PV = "0.0+svnr${SRCREV}" Oct 19 15:34:59 hrw|gone: that doesn't look right Oct 19 15:35:27 * XorA can hear the screams from #openmoko already Oct 19 15:35:39 and they havent even started yet Oct 19 15:36:01 koen: ops Oct 19 15:37:05 XorA: http://rafb.net/p/GyKUSu84.html Oct 19 15:37:22 pushing fix Oct 19 15:38:16 bye Oct 19 15:41:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r30935138... 10/ (1 packages/libfakekey/libfakekey_svn.bb): libfakekey: bump PV to 0.2 Oct 19 15:55:31 did someone try to compile libx264 for ARM on OE ? Oct 19 15:57:29 nud: not yet, but I plan to Oct 19 15:58:08 XorA: cool Oct 19 15:58:12 I need it too ;-) Oct 19 15:58:22 nud: I want mediatomb and fuppes in OE eventually Oct 19 15:58:41 is there an assembler available in OE ? Oct 19 15:58:56 on x86 it complains like this: Oct 19 15:59:02 No suitable assembler found. x264 will be several times slower. Oct 19 15:59:36 nud: does it conatin ARM asm? Oct 19 16:00:10 well on ARM there is no "suitable assembler" defined Oct 19 16:00:44 I guess/hope there is a fallback code for ASM parts Oct 19 16:01:03 there is no arm-specific part Oct 19 16:01:50 asm volatile( "mtspr 256, %0\n\t" Oct 19 16:01:51 "vand 0, 0, 0\n\t" Oct 19 16:01:51 : Oct 19 16:01:51 : "r"(-1) ); Oct 19 16:01:53 in the main code Oct 19 16:02:02 nud: probably fallback code, but I guess some assebmler wizz needs to look into optimising x264 for arm Oct 19 16:02:15 yep Oct 19 16:02:27 ah that asm bit is hidden behind a #ifdef Oct 19 16:02:30 ipod video playing would be nice Oct 19 16:09:24 are there existing receipts for proprietary packages ? (randomly, IPP) Oct 19 16:10:36 look in binary-only Oct 19 16:10:38 or firmware Oct 19 16:12:27 XorA: mediatomb is in OE already :) Oct 19 16:12:31 nud: I once started IPP but I got bored when mplayer improved to no really need it Oct 19 16:12:42 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r72dbc16d... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc : rev bump settings-demon Oct 19 16:12:47 XorA: jin^eld is a(the?) mediatomb developer Oct 19 16:12:47 koen: excellent, that saves hassle then Oct 19 16:12:58 hey mickey|tw Oct 19 16:13:03 evening koen Oct 19 16:13:05 mickey|tw: fire-fighting done? Oct 19 16:13:18 koen: no. this will start on monday Oct 19 16:13:23 * mickey|tw zombie Oct 19 16:14:24 XorA: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/srcrevs.patch as of this morning works on my neo Oct 19 16:14:28 FYI Oct 19 16:15:56 koen: eh! Oct 19 16:16:57 why comment out all openmoko versions? Oct 19 16:43:04 * * OE Bug 3179 has been created by skoroneos(AT)digital-opsis.com Oct 19 16:43:06 * * dbus fails to start on x86/Angstrom Oct 19 16:43:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3179 Oct 19 16:57:20 XorA|gone: to use the latest svn revicions Oct 19 17:12:43 hmm, why does libfakekey try to fetch svn revision 1? Oct 19 17:22:27 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r83cf3f45... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/linphone_1.5.0.bb): linphone: Make sure 1.5.0 does not use -Werror which is going to break. Oct 19 17:33:58 hi all Oct 19 17:34:41 Hmm Oct 19 17:34:43 No Packages file was generated during my bitbake minimal-image, I would expect it to appear as build/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/ppce300c3/Packages. How can I debug this? Oct 19 17:34:49 Is there a package today that has 2 source archives? Oct 19 17:35:09 I've got 2 upstream tarballs, that uncompress to '.' rather than 'pkgname', and need them both in the same dir Oct 19 17:35:43 Tartarus: hmm, maybe mv them during a task. Oct 19 17:37:08 aw, damn. was hoping for something easier :) Oct 19 17:37:09 thanks Oct 19 17:47:32 Tartarus: there might be something easier that I don't know about. Oct 19 17:50:46 likewise: I suspect ppce300c3 isn't in PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS Oct 19 17:51:35 likewise: rootfs.bbclass basically does 'for i in PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS ;do ipkg_do_index ;done' Oct 19 17:52:55 koen: that was it, I just noticed this in the output. thanks. Oct 19 17:53:55 one of the reasons why I split up deploy, to make things like that more apparent Oct 19 17:59:11 Just wondering, does it make sense to have a rootfs_tar.class (Like when no run-time package manager is needed)? Oct 19 17:59:37 tar files have no dependency info Oct 19 17:59:58 the 'better' was is just to remove *ipkg* in IMAGE_POST_PROCESS_CMD Oct 19 18:00:04 (or *deb*) Oct 19 18:00:33 koen: yes, and remove the ipkg depency in the rootfs_ipk.class, which is what I now sometimes do. Oct 19 18:00:55 if you rm it anyway, you can keep the dep Oct 19 18:00:57 Remove ipkg from RDEPENDS, and PACKAGE_INSTALL Oct 19 18:01:19 * koen thinks the ipkg dep is not really in place in rootfs* Oct 19 18:02:04 koen: It should DEPENDS on ipkg-native and RDEPENDS on ipkg, AFAICS Oct 19 18:02:22 not really Oct 19 18:02:43 there's a valid use-case for having no ipkg binary in the system, but keeping the metadata Oct 19 18:08:17 koen: agreed, in my case I even want to get rid of the on-target metadata. Oct 19 18:10:23 right, that should be done in a post-process command Oct 19 18:10:32 since you need the metadata to populate the rootfs Oct 19 18:10:39 and run offline post isntall scripts Oct 19 18:16:36 ah, the openmoko dialer app has a new feature Oct 19 18:16:48 "unable to accept incoming calls" Oct 19 18:16:53 no way to turn it off, though Oct 19 18:23:00 mmcqd is soaking up 30% of akita's cpu time when I scp stuff onto its SD. Is that normal? Oct 19 18:24:16 yes Oct 19 18:25:04 how fast can it write to SD? Oct 19 18:31:28 03xora 07org.oe.dev * raa36aa92... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): sane-srcrevs.inc : add libfakekey Oct 19 18:39:38 no Oct 19 18:39:40 ga Oct 19 18:42:11 koen: copying stuff directly remotely onto sd is 3x slower than copying into internal flash. Is it because mmcqd is slowing down the system? Oct 19 18:42:24 or better said could it be possible Oct 19 18:49:35 * cbrake looks into the "/usr/bin/env svn update -r ${AUTOREV} failed with signal 1" problem again ... Oct 19 19:28:02 cbrake: you need to patch bitbake as outlined on the mailinglist Oct 19 19:40:57 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r43f3932c... 10/ (1 conf/machine/efika.conf): efika: Trivial typo fix. Oct 19 19:41:07 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r55a31408... 10/ (1 conf/machine/mpc8313e-rdb.conf): mpc8313e-rdb: Fix PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS and SERIAL_CONSOLE. Oct 19 19:49:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r22aae37c... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): packages/openmoko2: s:distribution:framework:g Oct 19 19:49:18 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbc72cbe4... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): (log message trimmed) Oct 19 19:49:18 angstrom-preferred-versions: remove more entries, bitbake -s gets now as far as: Oct 19 19:49:18 httppc 0:0.8.5-r0 0:.-8 Oct 19 19:49:18 htun 0:0.9.5-r0 0:.-9 Oct 19 19:49:18 hugs 0:hugs98-Nov2003-r2 Oct 19 19:49:21 Traceback (most recent call last): Oct 19 19:49:23 File "/data/build/oe/bitbake/bin/bitbake", line 134, in Oct 19 19:54:58 where do I find the code where bb fetches the source tars Oct 19 20:04:41 khem: bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/ in bitbake Oct 19 20:07:05 likewise: thanks Oct 19 20:07:26 likewise: I am looking on how glibc sources (tars) are fetched Oct 19 20:08:38 khem: I have never looked at the fetcher code. Is there anything specific you would like to learn? Oct 19 20:09:13 how it fetches the tars Oct 19 20:10:21 classes/base.bbclass, do_fetch Oct 19 20:10:41 but that's just kinda wrapper to bitbake's lib/bb/fetch/ Oct 19 20:10:44 or fetcher/, i forget Oct 19 20:12:37 Tartarus: yeah that's the one Oct 19 20:14:07 Currently rootfs created is owned by current user/group. If we try to nfs boot it then it does not boot I have to manually do a chown on whole rootfs tree Oct 19 20:15:33 really? odd Oct 19 20:15:43 looking at the direct dir or the .tgz ? Oct 19 20:16:16 direct dir Oct 19 20:16:30 tar should have added --owner=0 --group=0 Oct 19 20:16:37 probably Oct 19 20:17:10 khem: rootfs created where? in build/tmp/rootfs? Oct 19 20:17:10 yeah Oct 19 20:19:30 doesn't adding norootsquash to your nfs server solve that problem? Oct 19 20:21:04 anyone here know anything about how to create MTD partitions for NAND flash for a new board? Oct 19 20:21:53 afaik either map in the kernel or via CMDLINE Oct 19 20:22:19 that's a diff problem Oct 19 20:22:31 khem is saying the rootfs he's trying to use has bad perms on the host side Oct 19 20:29:24 hrm Oct 19 20:32:22 hi Oct 19 20:38:48 hi Crofton - won't redboot do that? (if you tell it to via the "fis" commands) Oct 19 20:39:02 this is for a new borad Oct 19 20:39:05 board Oct 19 20:39:16 don't have a loader yet? Oct 19 20:40:24 u-boot Oct 19 20:40:34 but I think I need to define the partitions in the kernel Oct 19 20:48:43 yeah as Tartarus mentioned it's the permission on the host side Oct 19 20:56:23 Crofton, if the kernel is compiled with CONFIG_MTD_REDBOOT_PARTS (and friends) it will look for a FIS partition area, and use that - thereby avoiding the hassle of statically defining these in the kernel. Oct 19 20:56:52 CMDLINE should work as well Oct 19 20:56:59 hmmm Oct 19 20:57:10 (never tried it, but people keep telling me it works) Oct 19 20:57:32 anybody working with the i.MX21, 27, 31? i'm trying to speak with the internal bootstrap loader, but it is pretty stupid... Oct 19 20:59:43 koen - that requires CONFIG_MTD_CMDLINE_PARTS (a great tip, thanks!) Oct 19 21:06:22 hello Oct 19 21:07:25 I am working on a package and would like it to include qte. I have problems as the include files are not found Oct 19 21:07:44 isn't a DEPENDS="qte" setting enough? Oct 19 21:10:42 oops.. bugzilla down ? Oct 19 21:10:45 mysql error Oct 19 21:14:33 koen, HopsNBarley_: we have a small patch that allows us to do "root=/dev/mtdblock@partitionname" to add extra dynamic. Oct 19 21:28:32 any suggestion for me? Oct 19 21:37:25 koen: thanks for the AUTOREV patch suggestion -- that worked Oct 19 21:40:02 * likewise notes his last remark is senseless. That functionality is already upstream... Oct 19 21:40:22 * likewise should apply for kernel developer :-) Oct 19 21:41:07 is the autorev patch going into bitbake? Oct 19 21:45:35 any objection to pushing a newer version of libpixman? i couldn't get xserver-kdrive to build without it. Oct 19 21:47:06 HopsNBarley_: Sure. Is the version considered "latest stable" upstream? If not, please set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE to -1 . Oct 19 22:03:05 re Oct 19 22:04:45 wb Oct 19 22:09:49 likewise, ah, perfect. thanks. Oct 19 22:37:12 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rc9cff326... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux-2.6.23: Added mpc8313e-rdb with defconfig. Oct 20 01:48:14 morning Oct 20 02:03:49 mickey|tw, gm Oct 20 02:19:35 mickey|tw: morning. tw==taiwan? Oct 20 02:22:34 yes Oct 20 02:22:51 sitting in the office room of the OpenMoko Apartment Oct 20 02:23:00 arrived yesterday Oct 20 02:37:35 Hm, generic linux question that someone might know the answer to.. heavy disk i/o seems to kill interactivity here.. is there anything in particular I should be examining? I've tried looking at the I/O schedulers, with no luck Oct 20 02:40:49 mickey|tw: enjoy your stay **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 20 02:59:56 2007