**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 25 02:59:57 2007 Oct 25 03:01:13 paulproteus: I just merged the mtn repo, so if you pull it should work now Oct 25 03:02:10 Okay. Oct 25 03:02:16 libglade's Makefile had a syntax error. Oct 25 03:02:30 * paulproteus pulls & updates Oct 25 03:03:48 paulproteus: openembedded bugzilla is probably the best place to report build issues Oct 25 03:10:34 paulproteus: the mtn slides on http://www.venge.net/mtn-wiki/Talks are pretty good if you are interested in the multiple head situation with mtn Oct 25 03:11:54 paulproteus: I occasionally read them to remind myself why mtn is so cool :-) Oct 25 03:42:55 if anyone here works on gpe in any way and could just sanity check my bug, that would be great. looking for 1 min of someone's time Oct 25 03:42:58 http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108 Oct 25 03:43:01 thanks Oct 25 04:00:29 cbrake_away, Oh, thanks for the mtn link! Oct 25 04:21:10 cbrake_away, This presentation is shocking and interesting. Oct 25 04:21:23 It has tidbits like, "It's in C++ entirely for the type system." Oct 25 06:39:05 * * OE Bug 3210 has been created by cm(AT)acc.umu.se Oct 25 06:39:06 * * minimo_cvs fails to build; cannot access nsBuildID.h Oct 25 06:39:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Oct 25 07:40:07 moin zecke Oct 25 07:46:15 good morning all Oct 25 07:53:11 hi koen ;] Oct 25 07:53:58 morning Oct 25 07:57:16 morning Oct 25 07:59:35 hrw: it's 4:00am here :( Oct 25 08:02:08 16:00 here as well Oct 25 08:02:15 ~lart timezones Oct 25 08:02:15 * ibot smacks timezones up side the head with a clue-by-4 Oct 25 08:02:48 mickey-tw: but you probably slept more than 1h45 :) Oct 25 08:03:13 yes, 8h actually Oct 25 08:04:10 mickey-tw: I need to clear my mind but it seems I won't work, so I'm trying to code something Oct 25 08:04:52 i know that feeling Oct 25 08:06:19 cool it my xmlstreamwriter and reader work ... /me pets Qt4 ... now I just need to get this stupid model to work correctly Oct 25 08:09:20 good Oct 25 08:09:21 qt4 rocks Oct 25 08:09:46 I just hope it will be enought to get me the job :) Oct 25 08:12:15 morning all Oct 25 08:13:22 hey RP Oct 25 08:14:17 yo RP Oct 25 08:29:21 does anyone here happen to have his hands on ubuntu or debian development ? Oct 25 08:32:23 gilligan_: What do you mean? I use Ubuntu... but I am not a developer of Ubuntu Oct 25 08:35:08 i meant ubuntu or debian *developer*.. i'm a user myself ;] Oct 25 08:35:52 but nevermind, I think i found what I needed Oct 25 08:41:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfce2adbd... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko2/libjana_svn.bb): libjana: fix packaging Oct 25 08:44:06 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rc52d04f8... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Oct 25 08:44:06 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-mediaplayer2_svn.bb : fixup gconftool usage and Oct 25 08:44:06 bump version in sane-srcrevs Oct 25 09:18:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9ff0a101... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: bump libjana to unbreak source-mirrors Oct 25 09:28:52 Er, something failed to build due to something broken on my end. Oct 25 09:29:22 I fixed the broken environment variable, and now I want to clean out my bitbake land so that it rebuilds everything. Oct 25 09:32:57 paulproteus: rm -rf /build/tmp and start over Oct 25 09:33:40 How about ./tmp/work/ ? Oct 25 09:33:44 Oh, I see, not even just work! Oct 25 09:34:13 ~fish lrg Oct 25 09:34:14 * ibot slaps lrg around with a large trout Oct 25 09:35:17 hey XorA Oct 25 09:35:36 lrg: the blackfin uboot for bf548 is broken, I'm giving ADI a few days to fix it before trying again :) Oct 25 09:35:54 koen: not good :( Oct 25 09:36:14 koen: do you have jtag ? Oct 25 09:36:22 no need for jtag :) Oct 25 09:36:30 koen: ok, cool :) Oct 25 09:36:43 put DSP MODE into the '7' position and it will load from UART Oct 25 09:37:14 which is how I tested uboot, since the baord only has a bfin demo as 'bootloader' Oct 25 09:42:52 koen: I would like to use OE to build for a target without an MMU, an Arm7TDMI, the NXP 2468. Oct 25 09:58:06 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rc03b94ac... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Oct 25 09:58:06 packages/linux/linux-openmoko.inc : now linux-openmoko uses linux.inc Oct 25 09:58:06 retask this file to just do final deploy steps which are different Oct 25 09:58:06 for openmoko gta01/02 machines. Added to kernels as needed. Oct 25 10:21:00 * XorA finally gets a letter that was posted before OEDEM Oct 25 10:27:23 sweet, the openmoko zecke impersonator is applying gsmd patches :) Oct 25 10:29:06 good morning Oct 25 10:55:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1cdc12c3... 10/ (81 files in 9 dirs): linux-ezx: add 2.6.23 Oct 25 11:02:04 * * OE Bug 3202 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net Oct 25 11:02:06 * *  Add a machine definition for MPC8323E-RDB Oct 25 11:02:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 Oct 25 11:28:04 koen: linux-ezx beats linux-rp in patches amount ;) Oct 25 11:31:29 sadly, yes Oct 25 11:38:36 ~lart pxa27x Oct 25 11:38:37 * ibot cuts pxa27x into thin stripes Oct 25 11:44:44 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdc8de3e0... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/zaurus-2.6.inc): zaurus machines: c7x0 and akita require pcmcia core modules with 2.6.23+ kernels Oct 25 11:44:56 03jemery_laine 07org.oe.dev * rdd686600... 10/ (9 files in 7 dirs): mpc8323e-rdb: Adapted from mpc8313e-rdb, tested. Oct 25 11:52:27 ~lart bitbake Oct 25 11:52:28 * ibot stuffs bitbake into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it Oct 25 11:58:44 Did we decide we can call OE a "meta-distribution"? Oct 25 11:59:27 see the mailinglist Oct 25 11:59:40 answer the question :) Oct 25 11:59:49 don't be so elitist Oct 25 11:59:54 I forgot the answer and I think I deleted the answer Oct 25 11:59:57 :) Oct 25 12:00:04 "I agree metadistro covers what OE is, but it is also the most confusing Oct 25 12:00:05 name to people unfamiliar with OE." Oct 25 12:00:44 heh Oct 25 12:00:50 yeah, I look in the archives Oct 25 12:01:18 so we should just use the word mets-distribution consistently to reduce the confusion factor? Oct 25 12:01:20 Some call Gentoo a meta-distribution too Oct 25 12:02:25 in a good way, or a bad way? Oct 25 12:03:01 I'd settle for "distribution builder" Oct 25 12:03:13 I am going to list OpenEmbedded Developer on my resume .... Oct 25 12:03:16 meta-distro still sounds too much like "can build only one distro" Oct 25 12:04:12 meta is always confusing Oct 25 12:04:24 Crofton|home: good move Oct 25 12:06:40 it is a good way to show I know something about embedded linux, since it is hard to show with my other work Oct 25 12:06:54 and creates project "Branding" Oct 25 12:07:57 hmm u-boot goes green current thread: Oct 25 12:08:01 * koen heats up the irons Oct 25 12:08:15 can't save environment .... Oct 25 12:08:47 * Crofton|home wants to work on a MBA one day, just to find out what they do Oct 25 12:10:20 Crofton|home: tell craigh the tsc2003 driver probes 0x48, but doesn't see the ts on you gumstix Oct 25 12:10:29 ok Oct 25 12:10:46 I have a new image I need to test, trying to resolve the networking issues Oct 25 12:10:51 static unsigned short normal_i2c[] = {0x48, 0x49, 0x4a, 0x48b, I2C_CLIENT_END }; Oct 25 12:11:03 0x48b?? Oct 25 12:11:13 and maybe the screen issues Oct 25 12:11:41 and I have to get the windshield replaced on the car this morning Oct 25 12:11:45 XorA: you get a cookie for spotting a typo :) Oct 25 12:11:51 yummies Oct 25 12:12:01 * mwester-road wonders what else on the i2c bus is getting tickled with that typo. Oct 25 12:12:04 * * OE Bug 3207 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net Oct 25 12:12:06 * *  Add linux configuration for MPC8323E-RDB Oct 25 12:12:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 Oct 25 12:12:16 * * OE Bug 3206 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net Oct 25 12:12:17 Crofton|home: fix that typo and retry :) Oct 25 12:12:18 * *  Add uClibc configuration for MPC8323E-RDB Oct 25 12:12:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3206 Oct 25 12:12:36 yeah just your luck if its configured for 4b :-) Oct 25 12:16:06 fixed and rebuilding Oct 25 12:19:55 * Crofton|home throws the flash reader i his bag before he forgets it ... Oct 25 12:22:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6dbedcf6... 10/ (1 packages/gsm/libgsmd_svn.bb): libgsmd: add maxrev for send patch Oct 25 12:24:21 koen: what blocks OE from using automake 1.9.6? Oct 25 12:24:38 someone making it the default :) Oct 25 12:25:13 sicne nobody wants to review or test changes besides one or two people, we can just change it right now Oct 25 12:25:24 koen: can you run test build? Oct 25 12:25:39 testing is overrated Oct 25 12:26:08 ;;D Oct 25 12:26:58 I've been using 1.9.6 for some months now Oct 25 12:27:07 so do I Oct 25 12:27:09 which is why it is in the angstrom lockdown file :) Oct 25 12:27:36 * koen refers to comment about almost nobody bothering to check the angstrom lock file Oct 25 12:31:57 NOTE: Applying patch 'bash32-025' Oct 25 12:31:57 NOTE: package bash-3.2-r2: task do_patch: completed Oct 25 12:46:50 cbrake_away: ever done any custom hardware stuff using GPIO pins on the compulab board ? Oct 25 12:52:34 hrw: you have taken PCMCIA out of kernel in 2.6.32? Oct 25 12:52:36 23 Oct 25 12:52:42 XorA: yes Oct 25 12:52:51 XorA: otherwise kernel does not fit Oct 25 12:52:53 :-( Oct 25 12:53:04 it was "pcmcia or sd" Oct 25 12:53:49 ah well Oct 25 12:54:05 likely to ditch zaurus soon anyways Oct 25 12:54:39 XorA: to replace them with? Oct 25 12:55:05 I has gp2x, PSP, GTA02, and 3 zauruses Oct 25 12:56:33 might buy n810 and just ditch all other pda devices Oct 25 12:58:19 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9235652d... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): bash: apply upstream fixes: up to 025 (was to 005) - from Poky Oct 25 12:58:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r56ceab0d... 10/ (1 packages/gimp/gimp_2.4.0.bb): gimp: update to 2.4 Oct 25 12:59:50 i'm going to buy n810 also Oct 25 13:02:04 some people just have too much money :) Oct 25 13:03:30 * CM thinks some people just prioritize differently Oct 25 13:07:14 i'll stick to my journeys to China instead hehe Oct 25 13:16:18 hey vivijim Oct 25 13:16:42 hi XorA Oct 25 13:21:48 gilligan_: yes, I've used gpios on the cm-x270 Oct 25 13:22:23 cbrake: oh..great.. then you can perhaps help me Oct 25 13:22:36 cbrake: have to admit I am a bit confused at the moment Oct 25 13:23:03 cbrake: I am trying to understand what GPIO I can safely use to attach a switch to it without causing any collisions Oct 25 13:24:49 cbrake: looking at the reference manual GPIO1-10 should for example be completely free? Oct 25 13:25:28 gilligan_: the cm-x270 datasheet lists the uses of all GPIOs, plus the alternate function table in the pxa-270 manual, plus the reset pullup/down state in the pxa270 elec doc -- combine these three and you have the complete picture. Oct 25 13:26:56 gilligan_: there are lots of gpio available depending what pxa-270 peripherals you plan to use Oct 25 13:31:17 FILES_${BASEPN}-plugin-machine-generic = "${libdir}/gsmd/libgsmd-machine_generic.so*"FILES_${BASEPN}-plugin-machine-generic = "${libdir}/gsmd/libgsmd-machine_generic.so*" Oct 25 13:31:46 apart from wierdly pasting that line twice, can anyone spot any obvious mistakes Oct 25 13:33:24 BASEPN? Oct 25 13:34:03 is that some new-fangled form of DEBIAN_NOAUTONAME? Oct 25 13:35:50 koen: no, its for an inc file so I want to change the name of packages Oct 25 13:36:36 ah Oct 25 13:36:52 is PACKAGES being set correctly? Oct 25 13:37:50 PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-tools ${BASEPN} \ Oct 25 13:37:50 ${BASEPN}-plugins \ Oct 25 13:37:50 ${BASEPN}-plugin-machine-generici \ Oct 25 13:37:50 ${BASEPN}-plugin-machine-tihtc \ Oct 25 13:37:50 ${BASEPN}-plugin-vendor-bcm \ Oct 25 13:37:51 ${BASEPN}-plugin-vendor-qc \ Oct 25 13:37:53 ${BASEPN}-plugin-vendor-ti \ Oct 25 13:37:55 ${BASEPN}-plugin-vendor-tihtc \ Oct 25 13:37:57 " Oct 25 13:38:29 ${BASEPN}-plugin-machine-generici <- typo alert Oct 25 13:38:32 cbrake: as of now I really just need pcmcia,lan,serial Oct 25 13:38:39 koen: heh heh Oct 25 13:39:13 guess which editor I use then :-) Oct 25 13:39:21 the same as I :) Oct 25 13:39:58 koen: cheers I wouldnt have spotted that for hours Oct 25 13:40:18 I had the same problem with libjana this morning ::) Oct 25 13:54:03 cbrake: actually.. shouldn't there be a GPIO that is completely free/unused? Oct 25 13:54:07 can EABI be used with the strongarm cpu? Oct 25 13:55:59 cbrake: no Oct 25 13:56:22 XorA: thought so -- thanks Oct 25 14:06:51 thats a busy busy weekly change report Oct 25 14:16:06 cbrake: have you ever tried the gpio code example that compulab provides ? Oct 25 14:16:19 gilligan_: no, I have not Oct 25 14:16:48 cbrake: at least the tool tells me the pin is always high Oct 25 14:16:51 gilligan_: for most things, I set up the GPIO in the kernel, and then access the GPIO set and clear registers directly in userspace Oct 25 14:16:54 cbrake: i attached a switch to GPIO 1.. but don't get any state changes Oct 25 14:19:46 hm.. also why is there no /sys/kernel/debug/omap_gpio .. should be available since 2.6.22 Oct 25 14:23:13 * XorA goes into town before shops close Oct 25 14:24:04 Is it possible to pass arguments to a pthread function when using pthread_create() ? Oct 25 14:25:04 gerwinin: yes, you can supply a pointer to anything you want Oct 25 14:26:19 gerwinin: pthread_create(&reader1, &pthread_attr, read_work, (void*)1); Oct 25 14:26:34 gerwinin: void *read_work(void* spare) Oct 25 14:27:32 spare is a pointer to nothing in particular, but you might cast it to a structure, or just use the pointer value (which is not really neat). Oct 25 14:30:35 Likewise at this moment I have: http://pastebin.com/d81e6250 Oct 25 14:31:45 To create the thread I use : pthread_create(&tid, NULL, thread1(tv,iTime,rEvent),NULL); Oct 25 14:31:57 But that doesn't seem to work Oct 25 14:33:10 gerwinin: no, the function prototype of the thread work only accepts a single pointer Oct 25 14:33:40 likewise: :( thanks Oct 25 14:33:52 likewise: need to rebuild somethings than Oct 25 14:34:42 gerwinin: see http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/000095399/ and type pthread_create in the search bar Oct 25 14:38:41 Likewise: thanx Oct 25 14:43:02 x_X Oct 25 14:43:12 now my board is dead Oct 25 14:44:00 and resetting to armmon defaults doesn't help either.. oh joy Oct 25 14:44:59 what's the easiest way to get rid of bluetooth stuff in the angstrom minimal-image? Oct 25 14:45:14 currently digging through task .bb files, trying to figure out who is adding it Oct 25 14:45:51 q Oct 25 14:48:31 arggggggh Oct 25 14:48:48 Jin^eLD: minimal-image has BT? Oct 25 14:51:03 Jin^eLD: or BT is built when you do 'bitbake minimal-image'? Oct 25 14:53:05 * * OE Bug 3204 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by hbmeier(AT)hni.uni-paderborn.de Oct 25 14:53:07 * *  libxml2-2.6.29-r5: do_populate_staging: failed Oct 25 14:53:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3204 Oct 25 14:53:30 hrw: if I am not mistaken minimal image has bt with it Oct 25 14:53:46 which I was sort of confused about since bt is not so minimal anymore... but ok Oct 25 14:54:08 I need to create a custom rootfs, I figured best way to do that is to base it on angstrom minimal image Oct 25 14:54:11 right? Oct 25 14:58:49 XorA|gone: have you recently tried to build uboot-openmoko? Oct 25 15:01:46 zecke: so you'll be in Linz next week? Oct 25 15:02:14 yes Oct 25 15:02:19 cool Oct 25 15:02:47 Jin^eLD: flight + hotel are booked Oct 25 15:03:00 in which hotel are you staying? Oct 25 15:05:36 cbrake: do you know of any reset methods besides shortening pins as described in the armmon manual ? Oct 25 15:06:14 gilligan_: no, not offhand -- I assume you are looking for things that cause your board not to boot? Oct 25 15:07:01 cbrake: well I did some changes with gpiosetX commands in the armmon Oct 25 15:07:13 cbrake: now armmon won't start up again Oct 25 15:07:45 cbrake: at least not with the method described in the armmon manual Oct 25 15:09:42 gilligan_: and you tried the jumper method to reset the BL config settings Oct 25 15:09:55 gilligan_: I've not messed with the gpiosetX stuff Oct 25 15:10:36 jumpers ? the armmon manual says to shorten pins to reset to defaults Oct 25 15:15:58 F**K Oct 25 15:27:20 cbrake: hello Cliff, have you tried setting the system clock from within linux on the cm-x270? Oct 25 15:28:04 jsheldon: the external RTC? Oct 25 15:28:14 cbrake: yes Oct 25 15:28:18 jsheldon: I'm schedule to get that going this week :-) Oct 25 15:28:21 gcc-package seems to assume a single libgcc.so file but this conflicts with --enable-multi it seems, that can produce multiple /libgcc.so files. Oct 25 15:28:36 jsheldon: have you had any success with it? Oct 25 15:28:50 cbrake: I'm experimenting with it, and noticing that it's a month off :( Oct 25 15:29:55 cbrake: I'm trying 'date 102511251007; hwclock -w', rebooting, then I run 'date' and get 'Tue Sep 25 07:26:10 EDT 2007' Oct 25 15:30:35 jsheldon: that is no good Oct 25 15:31:28 I'm sure the time being 4 hours off has something to do with UTC Oct 25 15:31:48 I wonder if it would be fixed in a newer version of armon... Oct 25 15:32:22 date -u? Oct 25 15:32:27 03jemery_laine 07org.oe.dev * rc7b4f175... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): mpc8323e-rdb: Added Linux defconfig. Oct 25 15:32:34 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rd5e2e11e... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc-0.9.29/mpc8313e-rdb/uClibc.machine): uclibc: (Re)added mpc8313e-rdb/uClibc.machine Oct 25 15:32:43 03xora 07org.oe.dev * ra77bbd44... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-appmanager2_svn.bb): Oct 25 15:32:43 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-appmanager2_svn.bb : missed a PR bump sometime Oct 25 15:32:43 in history Oct 25 15:32:52 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb779f220... 10/ (1 packages/portmap/portmap_6.0.bb): portmap: sync 6.0 with Poky (no package changes) Oct 25 15:33:03 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rbe2bdd5c... 10/ (1 packages/pkgconfig/pkgconfig-native_0.22.bb): pkgconfig: remove whitespaces Oct 25 15:33:14 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc164f5fc... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): tasks: upgrade to 0.12 from Poky Oct 25 15:33:18 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1b7ecf2a... 10/ (1 packages/pimlico/contacts_0.5.bb): contacts: dropped 0.5 Oct 25 15:33:24 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r11794809... 10/ (1 packages/pimlico/dates_0.4.3.bb): dates: dropped 0.4.3 Oct 25 15:33:31 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re4118d15... 10/ (1 classes/bootimg.bbclass): (log message trimmed) Oct 25 15:33:31 bootimg.bbclass: import of new version (from Poky) Oct 25 15:33:31 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oct 25 15:33:31 r2867 | richard | 2007-10-11 23:46:11 +0200 (Cz, 11 X 2007) | 1 line Oct 25 15:33:31 bootimg.bbclass: Fix taskname reference Oct 25 15:33:33 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oct 25 15:33:35 r1911 | hrw | 2007-06-11 12:35:28 +0200 (Pn, 11 VI 2007) | 1 line Oct 25 15:33:45 hrw: it is still polish... Oct 25 15:35:00 can i fix an --author field in hindsight? Oct 25 15:35:26 zecke: sorry Oct 25 15:35:57 zecke: you at elce/rtlw? Oct 25 15:36:06 likewise: iirc you can only append certs, not change them Oct 25 15:36:12 likewise: yes Oct 25 15:36:43 zecke: I've appointed with Tim Bird of Linux CELF right after the OpenEmbedded talk. Oct 25 15:37:13 how many of you use src_distribute bbclass? Oct 25 15:39:38 likewise: may I join? ;) Oct 25 15:40:20 hrw: I used it in the sense of advertising it in a talk ;) Oct 25 15:40:27 hrw: but license.conf is a bit incomplete Oct 25 15:40:54 zecke: in Poky we have version which do not use license.conf at all Oct 25 15:41:12 it just distribute sources into directory/LICENSE-entry/ Oct 25 15:41:59 zecke: yes, please, and Jin^eLD. Oct 25 15:42:02 zecke: so after distributing you can easily copy proper dirs Oct 25 15:42:21 what's up? just read my nick, was not following, sorry Oct 25 15:42:40 Jin^eLD: 25 17:37 < likewise> zecke: I've appointed with Tim Bird of Linux CELF right after the OpenEmbedded talk. Oct 25 15:42:41 hrw: yes, this makes more sense. Moves the responsibility to the user Oct 25 15:42:51 aah Oct 25 15:43:14 I'll also be at the DLNA summit on sunday Oct 25 15:43:36 if anyone is interested: http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/DLNASummit Oct 25 15:43:55 Jin^eLD: Tim Bird wants to talk about using OE in industrial/professional environments (there was a discussion on the mailing list) Oct 25 15:44:41 that's surely interesting, I am about to "convert" another company to OE ;) at least was successfull with the one I am workign at Oct 25 15:45:03 Jin^eLD: CELF use OE internally for over 2 years iirc Oct 25 15:45:31 hrw: I found out about CELF only recently, well, couple of months ago so that organization was new to me Oct 25 15:45:40 they contacted me about MediaTomb and DLNA Oct 25 15:45:48 that's how I learned bout the conference Oct 25 15:46:34 hrw: you did some work for CELF regarding OE, was that the LTP bitbake? Oct 25 15:46:35 but indeed, I think it's good to have such an initiative, especially since more and more CE stuff is being run on linux Oct 25 15:46:56 likewise: some more Oct 25 15:47:24 tim did not know if he had time after the talk (because of other talks) but we could at least pick a new time. Oct 25 15:47:56 hrw: I was playing with LTP (planning to upgrade it to sep'07 release) but the bitbake does not package the files. Oct 25 15:48:32 hrw: I wanted to use it to test the powerpc machine addition, and run through libc / posix tests. Oct 25 15:48:45 likewise: I cleaned up omap kernels, omap5912osk machine, created celinux-test distro config, added some benchmark/test apps Oct 25 15:49:42 XorA|gone: your neo1973 'machine type' does not work for out-of-tree modules Oct 25 15:49:49 XorA|gone: they are still fic-gta01 Oct 25 15:50:07 likewise: I took celf recipe, cleaned and pushed Oct 25 15:51:04 hrw: my bad about the minimum image, I confused it with console image... so there is indeed no bluetooth stuff in the minimum image, sorry for the confusion Oct 25 15:51:40 btw what would be the "cleanest" way to switch from dropbear to telnet? Oct 25 15:51:54 Jin^eLD: DISTRO_SSH_DAEMON? Oct 25 15:51:59 aah, thanks Oct 25 15:52:00 Jin^eLD: look into task-boot Oct 25 15:54:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd0db4fe5... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.23.bb): linux-ezx: make 2.6.23 the default for a780 Oct 25 15:56:25 thx, found it, task-base actuall Oct 25 15:56:37 btw, does udev make sense without inotify? Oct 25 15:56:40 probably not? Oct 25 16:02:37 what would be best in that case? none? what's the mdev thing from busybox? Oct 25 16:04:43 mdev is very simple and fast /dev/ manager Oct 25 16:05:38 but I assume that also needs inotify to work? Oct 25 16:05:49 no idea Oct 25 16:06:03 mhm ok, thanks Oct 25 16:06:18 Jin^eLD: I think udev does not need inotify; the notification mechanism isn't inotify AFAIK Oct 25 16:06:48 well... Oct 25 16:06:48 Starting the hotplug events dispatcher udevd Oct 25 16:06:48 udevd[133]: main: the kernel does not support inotify, udevd can't monitor configuration file changes Oct 25 16:06:55 that's what made me suspicious :> Oct 25 16:07:13 Jin^eLD: yes, it uses inotify to monitor changes in your rule files automatically. Oct 25 16:07:21 Jin^eLD: AFAIK, that's all Oct 25 16:07:58 unless to will be editing the rules file and want udev to automatically pick them up (without signalling it) you might want to include it. Oct 25 16:07:58 likewise: but why would I need it if it can't monitor the /dev/* entries? Oct 25 16:08:21 Jin^eLD: not /dev/ entries, /etc/udev/rules.d entries Oct 25 16:08:27 oooh Oct 25 16:08:37 now I get it Oct 25 16:08:43 what about this message? .udev/ already exists on the static /dev! Oct 25 16:09:00 (I am trying to clean up the boot sequence) Oct 25 16:09:26 "If your kernel does not have inotify support, new rules will not be detected automatically. In this situation, you must run udevcontrol reload_rules after making any rule file modifications for those modifications to take effect." Oct 25 16:09:50 Jin^eLD: that last question I don't know. Oct 25 16:10:09 ooh I got it all wrong then about udev and the inotify thing.. thanks, must have missed it Oct 25 16:10:13 Jin^eLD: but let me know when you found out :-) Oct 25 16:10:18 sure, will do :) Oct 25 16:10:30 ok what about this one? root: mount: mount point /proc/bus/usb does not exist Oct 25 16:10:38 why would it want to mount that? Oct 25 16:10:39 going to cook (ok, warm a fast food pizza) Oct 25 16:10:59 Jin^eLD: hmm, dunno Oct 25 16:11:04 likewise: lucky you ;) I am in .ch this week and the hotel is who knows where with no food around Oct 25 16:11:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1e1386ea... 10/ (1 classes/module.bbclass): module.bbclass: RDEPEND on update-modules (from Poky) Oct 25 16:11:47 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd79456b6... 10/ (1 packages/hostap/hostap-conf_1.0.bb): hostap-conf: depend on update-modules (from Poky) Oct 25 16:11:51 * cbrake is very puzzled at the classpath recipies in OE ... Oct 25 16:11:55 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf1ebcfc0... 10/ (1 packages/orinoco/orinoco-conf_1.0.bb): orinoco-conf: call update-modules to populate information from /etc/modutils Oct 25 16:13:05 Jin^eLD: well, good luck, hope you survive :-) Oct 25 16:14:03 likewise: tomorrow last day :) I guess first thing I will go to an all you can eat place Oct 25 16:14:11 first thing when coming back to .at that is Oct 25 16:18:49 mhm, ok, DISTRO_SSH_DAEMON helps to get rid of dropbear but how to put up telnet? I could not find a telnetd or telnet package Oct 25 16:18:57 is it done via busybox? Oct 25 16:19:53 busybox can have telnetd Oct 25 16:20:16 hrw: is there any variable or setting to enable it? Oct 25 16:20:24 i.e. something similar to DISTRO_SSH_DAEMON ? Oct 25 16:23:19 be back later Oct 25 16:36:17 mhm ok another one, I set DISTRO_DEV_MANAGER to "" so udev should not be selected anymore, however the minimal-image still puts it on the rootfs Oct 25 16:36:24 the init scripts, the /sbin/ stuff Oct 25 16:36:51 Jin^eLD, are you going to run a static /dev? Oct 25 16:36:52 I set DISTRO_DEV_MANAGER in the image bb file (currently adapting it to meet my dependencies/needs) Oct 25 16:37:02 HopsNBarley: yes, I guess so Oct 25 16:41:57 bye Oct 25 16:44:36 russ, you the kb board guy? Oct 25 16:45:10 Crofton: Yup! How r u? Oct 25 16:45:39 fine, I thought you'd like to know, someone just put some patches on the u-boot list for that board :) Oct 25 16:46:08 ah! cool. I'll google that. Oct 25 16:46:17 Thanks! Oct 25 16:46:23 hopefully the go into git Oct 25 16:46:40 did you get the board to boot ok with the kernel decompressor? Oct 25 16:47:07 I've been distracted this week. Just fighting it again. Oct 25 16:47:39 and the answer is no... I wonder if it's the kernel that is corrupted? Oct 25 16:48:11 very strange Oct 25 16:48:28 If it's built broken. Oct 25 16:48:31 ? Oct 25 16:48:38 not sure Oct 25 16:49:04 can you use the iminfo commnad in u-boot to check the kernel Oct 25 16:49:11 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r29ae2e34... 10/ (1 conf/machine/bd-neon.conf): bd-neon.conf: Add missing uboot bits Oct 25 16:49:15 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rbfb3f591... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): tea: Add Tea - a small and powerful text editor. Oct 25 16:49:20 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rc588e66c... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux.inc): linux.inc: bd-neon needs the uboot mkimage tool Oct 25 16:49:20 let's see.... Oct 25 16:50:13 Crofton: Yes, it's fine, or it would not hand over to the kernel. Oct 25 16:50:54 I really have no clue then Oct 25 16:51:04 Have you tried talking with the vendor? Oct 25 16:51:29 No. I've not had the time to talk coherently with anyone. Oct 25 16:51:37 heh Oct 25 16:51:40 ;) Oct 25 16:51:44 I know what you mean Oct 25 16:51:58 Been rushing around trying to organize nice fat laser sources... Oct 25 16:52:00 can I ask a plone question? Oct 25 16:52:02 cool Oct 25 16:52:05 Shoot! Oct 25 16:52:29 You working on a new oe site? Oct 25 16:52:40 no, this is for school Oct 25 16:52:52 ok. Maybe later... ;) Oct 25 16:52:57 I can 't figure out how to change the plone graphic Oct 25 16:53:09 should not be hard. Oct 25 16:53:15 you would think ..... Oct 25 16:53:18 2 ways to do it.. Oct 25 16:53:28 (actually >> 2) but I digress... Oct 25 16:54:03 Best is to do into site config and chagne the name of the image, then provide that image in your Plone site. Oct 25 16:54:33 ok, I'll try that Oct 25 16:54:48 this is an excuse for me to check out plane basically Oct 25 16:55:00 look in the ZMI for the skin folder that contains logo.jpg Oct 25 16:55:25 and customize it, for the quickest most direct path. Oct 25 16:55:53 thanks, I'll have to look at this later Oct 25 16:56:05 I forget where the name is defined in the site config. somwhere in one of the trees under your site, in ZMI. Oct 25 16:56:05 right now, I hav forgotten how to flash a kernel Oct 25 16:56:33 Plone is very cool. Feel free to ask. Oct 25 16:56:40 thanks Oct 25 16:56:58 we are having a workshop late next spring and I need to get the website setup for it Oct 25 16:57:08 we as is school, not oe Oct 25 16:57:35 ok. Plone is a good choice. Or you could go with moinmoin wiki. Oct 25 16:57:50 doh.. I set DISTRO_DEV_MANAGER = "" I also set HOTPLUG = "" - still my rootfs gets populated with udev stuff Oct 25 16:57:51 Plone has a nicer out-of-the box look Oct 25 16:57:54 anyone, any idea? Oct 25 17:00:17 who or what is putting it on the rootfs? doh.. Oct 25 17:03:20 Installing udev (092-r22) to root... Oct 25 17:03:33 :( Oct 25 17:04:11 Crofton: I need to heed the thoughts of Koen in his comments to http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3151 Oct 25 17:05:11 yeah, I have not traced the code to see what gets spilt between u-boot and the kernel Oct 25 17:05:32 but I am really surprised the kernel decompressor change is causing problem Oct 25 17:06:04 I would also note I can't get the board I am working on to boot at all :) Oct 25 17:07:09 doh Oct 25 17:07:13 I am a moron Oct 25 17:07:18 now it boots Oct 25 17:11:37 Crofton: want to share the problem - or too embarassing? Oct 25 17:12:31 writing to the wrong offset Oct 25 17:12:46 I forgot to add the base address Oct 25 17:18:46 hi all Oct 25 17:19:05 hi Oct 25 17:19:07 hey steliosk Oct 25 17:51:05 hrw|gone: how do you handle recipes with multiple LICENSES? Oct 25 17:51:57 with a cluebat? Oct 25 17:53:06 hmm, uicmoc4-native-4.3.1 fails to build when zlib is not installed on the host Oct 25 17:53:24 Shoragan: okay Oct 25 17:53:40 okay? Oct 25 17:54:17 yo Shoragan Oct 25 17:54:32 hi zecke Oct 25 17:55:44 mickey-tw, gm Oct 25 17:55:56 Shoragan: okay == I'm going to change that Oct 25 17:58:30 hi Crofton Oct 25 18:02:05 zecke : Does the recipe itself has different licence or the packages it builds ? Oct 25 18:02:29 steliosk: hehe, the PACKAGE. I assume our recipes to be all MIT licensed Oct 25 18:04:18 zecke : one idea : break the packaging stage into different bb files and mention the licence there Oct 25 18:04:49 steliosk: I would be happy if the licenses get concatinated ;) Oct 25 18:05:56 zecke : Does it make (legal) sense to do so ? Oct 25 18:06:09 hmm Oct 25 18:06:24 anyone know why I am having trouble formatting my microSD card with ext2? Oct 25 18:07:16 steliosk: well, the people need to check the dirnames, e.g. WebKit has LGPL and BSD code. So it must be redistributed Oct 25 18:11:19 zecke : Does that look good to you -> EXTRA_OECONF_PATHS += '${@base_conditional( "TARGET_CPU", "405", " --disable-multilib", "", d )}' Oct 25 18:12:28 i need to do that for a couple of cpu's that choke with multilib Oct 25 18:35:48 hey guys, is there any way (or documentation) about how to build a toolchain to be used as a prebuilt toolchain in others machines? I've noticed that toolchain generated include some hardcoded links to local host tmp directory... Oct 25 18:40:02 vivijim: the toolchain is not relocatable (well at least the c++ part) Oct 25 18:40:55 zecke: :( I've just noticed it... Oct 25 18:42:49 vivijim: not too bad, there is the sdk task, alternatively you can set CROSS_DIR to a fixed position :} Oct 25 18:43:09 rob landley has relocate patches for his toolchain Oct 25 18:43:40 likewise: I think crosstool patches the binary as well Oct 25 18:44:53 wait a minute, I didn't get it... what should I try to relocate the toolchain? Oct 25 18:45:45 vivijim: fake it by putting it in /opt/vivis-toolchain/, search for a patch and likewise pointed you to a possible source Oct 25 18:45:59 searching Oct 25 18:47:40 uhm got it... I'll try it Oct 25 18:48:59 no it was not firmware-linux the relocate stuff was in, crosstools-ng maybe... Oct 25 18:49:15 RP: | Size is 1303240 Oct 25 18:49:15 | FATAL: This kernel is too big for your PXA Zaurus and will destroy data if you flash it. Please reduce the size of the kernel by making more of it modular. Oct 25 18:49:18 NOTE: Task failed: /home/henry/oe/dev/tmp/work/poodle-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-rp-2.6.23-r3/temp/log.do_compile.4555 Oct 25 18:49:30 RP: any hints? Oct 25 18:52:00 I didn't mean "patch the binaries". I have seen a patch for the toolchain so that it works relative to its current location. Oct 25 18:52:05 * * OE Bug 3211 has been created by likewise(AT)gmx.net Oct 25 18:52:07 * * libgcc.so ends up in subdir but is not found during install Oct 25 18:52:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3211 Oct 25 18:52:12 I don't remember where though. Oct 25 18:53:31 likewise i did this for ppc405 EXTRA_OECONF_PATHS += '${@base_conditional( "TARGET_CPU", "405", " --disable-multilib", "", d )}' Oct 25 18:53:48 steliosk: ah I need to answer you Oct 25 18:54:04 steliosk: this is for gcc building? Oct 25 18:54:08 yes Oct 25 18:54:22 steliosk: can't I just keep multilib enabled? Oct 25 18:54:39 steliosk: I think we have another way to specify target specific flags Oct 25 18:54:48 steliosk: but I don't think TARGET_CPU is in the OVERRIDES Oct 25 18:54:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcc0f788a... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux.inc): Oct 25 18:54:48 linux.inc: build mkimage unconditionally Oct 25 18:54:48 * see comment inside the file Oct 25 18:55:30 zecke : yes, its not Oct 25 18:56:15 there is an abolute path bug left somewhere: http://www.pastebin.ca/749492 Oct 25 18:56:16 likewise : We will need to modify gcc-packaging Oct 25 18:56:32 steliosk: I'm debugging the pastebin issue now. Oct 25 18:57:30 Hi gremlin[it], I heard you have a ipaq 3600 series and could possibly help me out? Oct 25 18:57:44 zecke : its that certain cpu's can have softfloats and then the multilib issue kicks in Oct 25 18:57:46 steliosk: do we want to add it? EXTRA_OECONF_PATHS_cpu-405 (or _cpu-ppc-405) looks a bit better Oct 25 18:59:04 zecke : but there is no TARGET_CPU override.. Or it would work there ? Oct 25 18:59:09 stealth ... try .. what's your problem? Oct 25 19:00:52 likewise : its in gcc-package.inc Oct 25 19:01:23 gremlin[it], well i been using fam 0.8.4 for a long time with opie but usbnet was not working .. I just heard about angstrom and tried the x11 image, there isnt a 3600 image.. the 3800 x11 dosent work at all (wrong hardware deff).. the 3700 x11 jffs2 I get http://rafb.net/p/H992Za68.html Oct 25 19:01:38 steliosk: gcc-package-cross.inc I assumed? Oct 25 19:01:50 gremlin[it], oh and the model exactly i have is a 3765.. but from minicom and the boot> promt it says device as a 3600 Oct 25 19:02:12 steliosk: we can add that easily Oct 25 19:02:46 likewise : its in gcc-package.inc Oct 25 19:03:16 * hrw for a moment Oct 25 19:03:19 stealth yes ... from what i know is a 3600 with more ram and flash ... Oct 25 19:03:20 hi hrw Oct 25 19:03:26 zecke: I distribute it into each license dir Oct 25 19:03:34 hvontres|home: move pcmcia into modules Oct 25 19:04:03 stealth i'm barelly working on kernel and OE support of h3600 ... but sincerelly usb isn't working ... Oct 25 19:04:06 at now Oct 25 19:04:28 even fam 0.8.4 ? Oct 25 19:04:33 is it host side or ipaq side? Oct 25 19:04:40 like dmesg on the host shows cdc device Oct 25 19:04:47 i really dont care goin back to fam if i can get usbnet Oct 25 19:04:58 no ... they have only usb-slave (gadget) Oct 25 19:05:08 steliosk: you can either add that, or add the TARGET_CPU to the OVERRIDES, OVERRIDES are relatively cheap (not as expensive as they used to be) Oct 25 19:05:14 either way i guess id have to bite the bullet and send ipks with the serial Oct 25 19:05:23 for me on fam 0.8.4 (i have it on my h3800) work Oct 25 19:05:24 usb-slave gadget... ? how is that configured? Oct 25 19:05:31 i know menuconfig Oct 25 19:05:33 but anything else? Oct 25 19:05:40 hrw: good enough, I don't mind merging changes Oct 25 19:05:48 zecke : The OVERRIDES would be a better option Oct 25 19:06:21 steliosk: just one question. a) We should prefix it with cpu- (just like we do with pn- for ${PN}) Oct 25 19:06:25 hmmMMMM ethernet gadget with CDC support.. Oct 25 19:06:28 steliosk: but how unique are CPU names? Oct 25 19:06:33 gremlin[it], so it is host side? Oct 25 19:06:41 no Oct 25 19:07:00 zecke : hmmm good question... Oct 25 19:07:02 steliosk: we might want to put cpu-${TARGET_ARCH}-${TARGET_CPU} into OVERRIDES, or if you need TARGET_FPU as well, this too Oct 25 19:07:33 gremlin_it, so I just need the usb gadget module? Oct 25 19:07:44 CDC Oct 25 19:08:23 hrw: Ok. I'll try that. Oct 25 19:08:30 for kernel 2.4 (what is in fam 0.8.4) there isn't gadget support ... exist a driver to do usb-eth ... Oct 25 19:08:57 stealth it should work ... no one touch it since years ... Oct 25 19:09:05 zecke : yep, makes sense. I'll look at it Oct 25 19:09:59 i have usbnet just not gadget.. when i plugin ipaq I get usb0 and set 192.168.0.200.. and on the ipaq its 192.168.0.202 with default gw as 192.168.0.202 but neither can ping Oct 25 19:10:01 zecke: then please write to ml Oct 25 19:10:03 oh and iptables masq Oct 25 19:10:08 and ip_forward is 1 Oct 25 19:10:10 * hrw -> wife Oct 25 19:10:11 bye Oct 25 19:10:17 nite hrw Oct 25 19:10:27 stealth: http://blog.haerwu.net/ -> searc for usbnet ;) Oct 25 19:10:57 cant find server Oct 25 19:11:20 stealth strange ... Oct 25 19:11:31 ughh Oct 25 19:11:37 dmesg says usb0 cdc Oct 25 19:17:16 hrw|gone: thanks. That worked. Now I just need to figure out what broke poodle sound... It won't compile anymore Oct 25 19:23:38 The "make install" of gcc-cross by do_install of gcc-package-cross.inc somehow creates repeated absolute paths. There must be a concat of two absolute path prefix variables. Oct 25 19:24:26 (Perform a bitbake -c install gcc-cross and then run find build/tmp/work//gcc-cross-x.y.z/ | grep libgcc) Oct 25 19:26:58 Which variable matches /home/leon/sandbox/mpc8313rdk/openembedded/build/tmp/cross/powerpc-angstrom-linux-uclibc ? Oct 25 19:35:51 zecke, steliosk: If I replace ${D} in gcc-package-cross.inc:do_install() to "/tmp/", the full absolute path appears in /tmp/ Oct 25 19:36:32 for example: /tmp/home/leon/sandbox/mpc8313rdk/openembedded/build/tmp/cross/powerpc-angstrom-linux-uclibc/lib/nof/libgcc_s.so Oct 25 19:36:54 * likewise thinks he lost audience :-) Oct 25 19:37:13 So Oct 25 19:37:23 Are you having a problem? Or just thinking there will be? Oct 25 19:37:46 likewise: what did you do? Oct 25 19:37:47 having one, trying to debug and fix. Oct 25 19:38:19 zecke: as a test, I only did this: replace ${D} in gcc-package-cross.inc:do_install() to "/tmp/" Oct 25 19:38:47 stealth: ops. - s/net/biz/ Oct 25 19:38:59 ? Oct 25 19:39:03 zecke: the "make install" then results in: /tmp/home/leon/sandbox/mpc8313rdk/openembedded/build/tmp/cross/powerpc-angstrom-linux-uclibc/lib/nof/libgcc_s.so Oct 25 19:39:21 likewise strange Oct 25 19:39:37 zecke: so, we seem to configure gcc with an absolute path somewhere, where we shouldn't Oct 25 19:39:57 zecke: more correctly: we seem to configure gcc with an absolute path somewhere, where it expects a prefix. Oct 25 19:40:08 stealth: http://blog.haerwu.biz/ -> search for usbnet ;) Oct 25 19:41:13 Can some people do this, as a test? find build/tmp/work/*/gcc-cross* | grep 'libgcc.*so' Oct 25 19:41:56 and check if an absolute path appears somewhere inside the resulting paths? Oct 25 19:43:23 hrw|gone, yea I did all that.. hotplugging works out of the box with udev and just setting up /etc/conf.d/net with net_usb0=("192.168.0.200") Oct 25 19:43:36 plugin ipaq.. usb0 comes on Oct 25 19:44:57 If a function gets defined twice in bitbake, will the last one override the first one? Oct 25 19:44:58 koen: revert last change - OEML mailed Oct 25 19:44:59 bye Oct 25 19:45:44 hello. i've a question regarding bulding u-boot: http://rafb.net/p/qvXOTZ94.html <- what's wrong? Oct 25 19:46:24 likewise, generally, yes Oct 25 19:46:29 i think there's some rules about order Oct 25 19:46:41 but do_foo in bar.bb will override an inherited one Oct 25 19:47:48 '/ Oct 25 19:48:45 Tartarus: I wonder if gcc-cross-4.1.2 runs do_install() from gcc-package.inc as well as do_install() from gcc-package-cross.inc, as they both are included. Oct 25 19:50:03 likewise look in the logs Oct 25 19:50:44 run.do_make/install/bla Oct 25 19:51:30 whatever is inherited to gcc-cross_4.1.2.bb last is run Oct 25 19:58:41 berkus: add -m armelf_linux_eabi to your linker Oct 25 19:59:28 hi khem Oct 25 19:59:41 khem: thanks. i wonder why uboot makefile doesn't do it itself Oct 25 19:59:45 woglinde: howdy Oct 25 20:00:06 khem how is your eglibc stuff improving? Oct 25 20:00:21 berkus: Somehow your linker should have done that automatically I don't know what is default emulation is it using in your case Oct 25 20:00:40 woglinde: Did not do much for past month or so Oct 25 20:00:41 Anyone know if there's support for mkimage'ing an fs image in a newer OE snapshot? Oct 25 20:01:00 last It was working on arm and x86 before meta toolchain stuff Oct 25 20:01:22 khem: hmm, maybe some specs are not set up properly, thanks i'll take a look. Oct 25 20:01:53 hvontres|home: Make pcmcia modular Oct 25 20:02:32 hi rp Oct 25 20:02:37 hi woglinde Oct 25 20:04:15 Tartarus: only if you (ab)use the POSTPROCESS stuff for images Oct 25 20:04:37 hrw|gone, I did exactly how it says on your blog .. host dmesg shows usb0: register 'cdc_subset' at usb-0000:00:02.0-2, Linux Device, 4a:d6:74:46:23:94 ... usb0 ifconfig shows 200.. ipaq side shows route ass 200 and ip .202 .. iptables, ip_forward all good... cant ping each other Oct 25 20:04:46 likewise, so nothing exists today, but that'd be a good place to start? thanks :) Oct 25 20:04:54 Tartarus: would be nice if one image could depend on multiple others (kernel, u-boot, rootfs) to wrap it up. Oct 25 20:05:04 Tartarus: that's how some people do it already. Oct 25 20:05:17 likewise, any example of this that're committed today? Oct 25 20:05:19 Tartarus: but there is no existing image class for it. Oct 25 20:05:25 Damn Oct 25 20:05:28 hate reinventing the wheel Oct 25 20:06:58 omfg Oct 25 20:07:13 Tartarus: nope, nothing so far. Oct 25 20:07:30 Tartarus: at least if my grep was alright Oct 25 20:07:48 fun Oct 25 20:07:51 thanks :) Oct 25 20:20:14 I'm such a moron, need to kick the git-conversion again... Oct 25 20:21:35 RP: hehe..hrw already beat you to it :) and yes, that works. Oct 25 20:24:01 hvontres|home: I skimmed the logs but missed that :) Oct 25 20:26:41 koen: Do I remember you saying something about the status of java support on arm at some point? Oct 25 20:29:19 tired of debugging, will continue some other time. Oct 25 20:29:24 thanks for the help, cya Oct 25 20:30:30 RP: you mean gcj? Oct 25 20:30:41 * cbrake listens to what koen says about java ... Oct 25 20:30:51 RP: gcj works starting from 4.1.x because pb fixed closure support in libffi Oct 25 20:31:04 (dunno what it means, but it was a showstopper) Oct 25 20:31:26 if you are of the JIT crowd, you want to talk to rschuster Oct 25 20:33:01 JIT/JVM crowd, that is Oct 25 20:33:16 koen: I'm curious about libjava/libgcj Oct 25 20:33:18 (and thank rschuster for feeding the poor hackers at OEDEM) Oct 25 20:33:21 koen, did you have any problems creating a ext2 file system on your microsd? Oct 25 20:33:26 koen: indeed :) Oct 25 20:33:39 Crofton: no,but certain cards dislike ext2 with a vengeance Oct 25 20:33:49 hm Oct 25 20:33:52 sandisk Oct 25 20:33:54 Crofton: I suspect their internal wear leveling assumes FAT Oct 25 20:34:18 rp what java do you need? Oct 25 20:34:27 RP: add ,java to gcc-cross_.bb and you should have a working gcj and libjava Oct 25 20:34:29 microSD trans flash by sandisk Oct 25 20:34:41 RP: zecke worked on it for ROAD iirc Oct 25 20:34:56 * koen needs to wake up in ~8 hours from now Oct 25 20:34:58 'night all Oct 25 20:35:01 nite koen Oct 25 20:35:03 gn Oct 25 20:35:14 woglinde: what is the state of classpath in OE? I tried minimal 0.95, but the recipe does not appear to be finished Oct 25 20:35:30 cbrake it is finished Oct 25 20:35:47 minimal is only for compilig midpath and cacao-cldc stuff Oct 25 20:36:10 the other stuff will follow Oct 25 20:36:32 I will meet up with robert schuster to speak about it Oct 25 20:37:02 woglinde: great, I have been using his classpath-minimal recipe for now Oct 25 20:37:14 cbrake hm oh its mine Oct 25 20:37:17 *g* Oct 25 20:37:26 well, that was a thankfully easy thing to hack in Oct 25 20:37:47 IMAGE_CMD_ext2.uboot = "rm -rf ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/tmp.gz && mkdir ${DEPLOY_DIR_ Oct 25 20:37:47 IMAGE}/tmp.gz; genext2fs -b ${IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE} -d ${IMAGE_ROOTFS} ${DEPLOY_DIR Oct 25 20:37:47 _IMAGE}/tmp.gz/${IMAGE_NAME}.rootfs.ext2 ${EXTRA_IMAGECMD}; gzip -f -9 ${DEPLOY_ Oct 25 20:37:47 DIR_IMAGE}/tmp.gz/${IMAGE_NAME}.rootfs.ext2; mv ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/tmp.gz/${IMA Oct 25 20:37:47 GE_NAME}.rootfs.ext2.gz ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/${IMAGE_NAME}.rootfs.ext2.gz; rmdir Oct 25 20:37:48 ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/tmp.gz ; mkimage -A ${TARGET_ARCH} -O linux -T ramdisk -C gz Oct 25 20:37:50 ip -a 0x0 -e 0x0 -n ${IMAGE_NAME} -d ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/${IMAGE_NAME}.rootfs.ex Oct 25 20:37:52 t2.gz ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/${IMAGE_NAME}.rootfs.ext2.uboot" Oct 25 20:37:53 whaahhahahaaaa Oct 25 20:37:54 IMAGE_DEPENDS_ext2.uboot = "genext2fs-native uboot-utils" Oct 25 20:37:57 stop it Oct 25 20:37:58 cursed screen... Oct 25 20:38:21 cbrake I made claspath-minimal, cacao-clcd and midpath working Oct 25 20:38:24 woglinde: or the recipe from the jalimo project -- wherever that came from :-) Oct 25 20:38:50 cbrake but we have to define standards where java stuff should go Oct 25 20:38:57 woglinde: nod Oct 25 20:39:30 cbrake so what java do you need? Oct 25 20:39:34 *g* Oct 25 20:39:53 woglinde: cacao/jamvm + classpath for a headless system Oct 25 20:40:17 woglinde: what I'm using now is OE jamvm + Jalimo classpath-minimal Oct 25 20:40:17 cbrake arm? Oct 25 20:40:21 woglinde: yes Oct 25 20:40:27 okay Oct 25 20:40:58 hm mabye next think I will do is build full cacao support Oct 25 20:41:13 and hope a new cacao version will came out in the next weeks Oct 25 20:42:01 re khem Oct 25 20:43:33 cbrake and classpath-minimal is enough for the headless system? Oct 25 20:44:42 RP:any thoughts on this: http://www.pastebin.ca/749648 ? Oct 25 21:01:52 hvontres|home: Looks like the patch needs updating after mainline changes Oct 25 21:04:58 woglinde: classpath-minimal in jalimo is essentially classpath without gui stuff I think ... Oct 25 21:12:21 hvontres|home: error: 'wm8731_poodle_controls' undeclared Oct 25 21:12:25 start from there Oct 25 21:16:17 RP: I'll take a look at it later tonight.. Thanks. :) Oct 25 21:17:30 cbrake: hey! I'll see you online here more often. I've been working on some stuff recently that has been giving me grief. Nothing serious, but this seems like a much better idea than googling for answers Oct 25 21:18:14 wwalczak: yes, this is a great resource -- #edev is also pretty active with Linux devs Oct 25 21:18:30 wow... great! Thanks! Oct 25 21:18:43 cbrake: wow... thanks! Oct 25 21:18:48 wwalczak: sure Oct 25 22:54:38 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r0de8cf95... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Oct 25 22:54:38 packages/uicmoc: Depend on zlib-native as reported by Jan Luebbe Oct 25 22:54:38 This is a blind fix and the issue was reported by Jan Luebbe. Refactoring Oct 25 22:54:38 the uicmoc4 recipes is on my todolist as well. Oct 25 22:54:43 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r65bea247... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Oct 25 22:54:43 packages/webkit: Build and package naming fixes (when using debian renaming) Oct 25 22:54:43 We do not want the package to be named libwebkitgtk-launcher but want to Oct 25 22:54:44 keep the webkit-gtklauncher names. The same applies to Qt and Qtopia. Oct 25 22:54:46 Use my Gtk+ API defines for the WebKit/Qt port as well. Oct 25 23:16:58 does anybody here know how to get a planex GW-CF11X wifi card working on the Zaurus? it worked in sharp, but it hasn't worked without dropping rapidly since I flashed Oct 25 23:22:45 Blue89: hey blue. be sure to uninstall the orinoco and hermes modules. btw, I still have your floppy drive... been 5 years or so... Oct 25 23:23:28 Blue89: which model Zaurus? Oct 25 23:51:27 * Zero_Chaos pokes Blue89 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 26 02:59:56 2007