**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 26 02:59:56 2007 Oct 26 03:21:15 any GPE folks around? Oct 26 03:21:21 http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108 Oct 26 06:40:25 good morning Oct 26 06:45:12 hello Oct 26 07:35:20 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rb0e02987... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Oct 26 07:35:20 gsm/libgsmd_svn.bb, gsm/libgsmd_svn.bb : split gsmd into two packages. Oct 26 07:35:20 libgsm_svn is to follow OpenMoko svn and shouldi not have patches applied. Oct 26 07:35:20 libgsm-devel_svn is one to allow people to add patches in OE Oct 26 07:35:20 OpenMoko distro will use libgsm, anyone else is invited to use libgsm-devel Oct 26 07:35:20 and add the patches they need for testing. Oct 26 07:35:25 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r0434a640... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-openmoko-versions.inc): preferred-openmoko-versions.inc : should be ?= for linux-openmoko Oct 26 07:36:40 XorA: yay Oct 26 07:36:46 that will make .tw happy :) Oct 26 07:37:14 well now they are on top of it, I dont expect patches to last long anyway Oct 26 07:37:21 yep Oct 26 08:01:52 re Oct 26 08:11:52 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rcd0fc723... 10/ (1 conf/distro/openmoko.conf): openmoko.conf : prefer libgsmd Oct 26 08:24:02 koen: ping Oct 26 08:33:37 ~ping likewise Oct 26 08:33:38 pong likewise Oct 26 09:03:35 morning Oct 26 09:03:40 hi Oct 26 09:03:42 hi Oct 26 09:03:45 morning hrw! Oct 26 09:28:55 koen: http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/10/23/handheldsorg-fork-of-kernel/#comment-5190 Oct 26 09:32:59 hrw: maybe you can help me out... I am trying to get rid of udev in the angstrom minimal image, I found this variable: DISTRO_DEV_MANAGER but setting it to ="" does not do the trick, I still get all the udev stuff installed to the rootfs Oct 26 09:33:07 any hints on how to solve that in a clean way? Oct 26 09:33:44 I look at the task file and setting the variable as I did should do it... but somehow udev still gets selected Oct 26 09:40:13 Jin^eLD: " " tried? Oct 26 09:42:17 actually I tried "none" but it did not help either Oct 26 09:43:06 I'll try " " now Oct 26 09:45:53 btw ="" worked for the DISTRO_SSH_DAEMON variable... so I wonder why it would faile for the dev manager Oct 26 09:46:04 * * OE Bug 3212 has been created by chick(AT)computergeek.freeserve.co.uk Oct 26 09:46:06 * * Kernel config on akita does not include overlay support Oct 26 09:46:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 Oct 26 09:47:04 * * OE Bug 3213 has been created by hbmeier(AT)hni.uni-paderborn.de Oct 26 09:47:06 * * gconf-dbus-2.16.0+svnr1 Oct 26 09:47:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3213 Oct 26 09:47:16 * * OE Bug 3213 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by hbmeier(AT)hni.uni-paderborn.de Oct 26 09:47:18 * *  gconf-dbus-2.16.0+svnr1 Oct 26 09:47:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3213 Oct 26 09:47:28 * * OE Bug 3214 has been created by xcp(AT)mixed-mode.de Oct 26 09:47:30 * * Unable to build klibc 1.1.1 for linux 2.6.20.4 Oct 26 09:47:32 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3214 Oct 26 09:48:48 hrw: nope.. setting it to " " did not help either Oct 26 09:49:25 any hints on how to figure it out? I tried -DDD but could not see any clues.. Oct 26 09:49:45 maybe something else depends on it, I also tried setting HOTPLUG="" but that did not help Oct 26 09:49:52 moment Oct 26 09:50:11 thx Oct 26 09:50:31 try to set it to any package Oct 26 09:52:11 ok.. lets see Oct 26 09:52:38 no change Oct 26 09:52:45 it seems that its completely ignored Oct 26 09:52:54 maybe someone/something else, like some dependency is pulling in udev? Oct 26 09:53:05 but i did not add any custom stuff, really using just the plain minimal-image as it comes in OE Oct 26 09:54:59 Jin^eLD: after change you rebuild task-boot? Oct 26 09:55:12 hmm... :) I rebuilt the image Oct 26 09:55:17 crap.. ok, thanks! Oct 26 09:55:23 ;D Oct 26 09:55:30 :) Oct 26 09:55:56 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rad3dfbc8... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libopie2 1.2.3: syntax fix for newer gcc Oct 26 09:56:31 ok.. one more question if I may :) minimal image has no ipkg binary installed, however there is almost 1MB of stuff being put in /usr/lib/ipkg Oct 26 09:56:51 why is that and how to get rid of it cleanly? Oct 26 09:57:05 moment Oct 26 09:57:13 ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND += "remove_packaging_data_files" Oct 26 09:57:19 add it into minimal-image Oct 26 09:57:22 thanks Oct 26 09:57:28 damn, OE rocks :) Oct 26 09:57:34 everything so flexible and configurable Oct 26 09:57:39 hm.. its from Poky Oct 26 09:57:50 you will need also definition of that function ;( Oct 26 09:57:58 I'll take a look in Poky Oct 26 09:58:23 btw one more laast thing :) then I will really be silent :) Oct 26 09:58:29 no - it is in OE too Oct 26 09:58:33 go Oct 26 09:58:34 the devshell... it tries to set a ./configure alias but bash does not like ./ Oct 26 09:58:52 so sourcing the devshell script gives an error Oct 26 09:58:59 do not source it Oct 26 09:59:07 "bitbake -cdevshell recipe" Oct 26 09:59:24 it will open x11 terminal (gnome-terminal or $TERMCMD) Oct 26 09:59:41 aha... Oct 26 09:59:57 I thought I source it and can work "as usual", at least I had that imporession from the FAQ Oct 26 10:00:18 faq is old.. Oct 26 10:00:31 ok.. Oct 26 10:00:40 hrw - thanks a lot! Oct 26 10:09:16 np Oct 26 10:13:35 hrw: gah we get a patch for akita defconfig for 2.6.22 and you bumped default kernel to 2.6.23 :-) Oct 26 10:22:54 anyone know why gsm is borked? Oct 26 10:23:00 sorry, openmoko question Oct 26 10:28:40 XorA: I did not - koen added 2.6.23 into OE :) Oct 26 10:30:39 ~blame koen then Oct 26 10:30:40 * ibot blames koen then (and Canada) for all the evil in the world Oct 26 10:32:43 XorA: If you have time to test I can provide new defconfigs for c7x0/spitz/akita (tested) and poodle (untested) which enable this and many other things Oct 26 10:32:51 tested to build only ofcourse Oct 26 10:33:21 hrw: maybe next week Oct 26 10:36:30 I can send them to angstrom-devel for test probably Oct 26 10:39:14 morning all Oct 26 10:41:55 good morning Oct 26 10:42:35 i florian Oct 26 10:43:19 RP florian : Hi ! Oct 26 10:44:23 RP : Did you have any chance to look at #3182. It's weird Oct 26 10:51:47 steliosk: I read the report and it looks very very strange... Oct 26 10:52:04 steliosk: I've not have a chance to debug it :( Oct 26 10:52:36 hrw: probably best, Im going to have a busy weekend of real life I thinks Oct 26 10:56:24 RP : The funny thing is that a bit earlier versions of bitbake 1.8 do not have an issue. I just noticed that as i am doing a build with OPLinux that uses 1.8 but the bug does not show there Oct 26 10:56:59 steliosk: Which versions of 1.8 are these? Oct 26 11:09:20 RP : not sure. I'll check once the builds are over Oct 26 11:16:12 hi Oct 26 11:17:30 hm.. need some docbook help.. while including png or jpgs fine for html outbut docbook2pdf simply doesn't display anything at all Oct 26 11:17:34 any hints on that? Oct 26 11:19:29 'http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007114666026.gif Oct 26 11:19:50 * hrw do not have such ones Oct 26 11:20:39 hrw: btw, any easy way to put in telnet instead of dropbear? I figured out how to disable dropbear but not how to activate the telnet daemon Oct 26 11:25:54 Jin^eLD: edit busybox defconfig? Oct 26 11:26:49 Jin^eLD: My board seems to boot into runlevel 5, I assume you would need to get a symlink into /etc/rc5.d pointing to the startup script in /etc/init.d Oct 26 11:27:09 Henryk: I like clilibdeps Oct 26 11:27:16 hrw: ok.. I was mostly wondering if I missed some variable that would trigger it, similar to the one that disables dropbear Oct 26 11:27:49 MWelchUK[work]: no, it's slightly different problem that I have, actually not a problem, more a configuration question Oct 26 11:28:26 Henryk: just finishing up a xsp package, but unfortunately it crashes: http://pastebin.ca/750257 Oct 26 11:28:38 Henryk: have you ever seen anything like this? Oct 26 11:31:47 'morning Oct 26 11:32:31 cbrake: ah, you found it. yes. that's the current blocker bug that I can't get past. i was just about to try to talk to lupus on how i could help resolve it. Oct 26 11:33:25 Henryk: ok, I'll send my crash to the mono mailing list as reinforcement then Oct 26 11:33:29 cbrake: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=323747 Oct 26 11:34:23 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd67b0c37... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): mtools: add DESTDIR support patch from NetBSD (sync from Poky) Oct 26 11:34:29 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rbe77f026... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: added OProfileUI Oct 26 11:34:29 also on the mono-devel mailing list, post by Dean Jenkins on 2007-08-30 Oct 26 11:35:08 cbrake: may I ask where you order your compulab hardware from ? we ordered from the Swiss distributor weeks ago and they keep on delaying delivery blaiming HQ for the problems Oct 26 11:36:13 gilligan_: we placed initial orders through the distributor in CA, but I think volume orders are going directly to compulab Oct 26 11:54:22 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7e262a52... 10/ (1 packages/gsm/files/gsmd): Oct 26 11:54:22 libgsmd, libgsmd-devel: small fixes to gsmd init script Oct 26 11:54:22 * fix header, remove superfluous exit statement and correct usage text. Oct 26 11:57:35 checking host system type... Invalid configuration `avr32-angstrom-linux': machine `avr32-angstrom' not recognized Oct 26 11:58:02 my stuff is a bit old . might i need a update or do i need to switch for a different distribution ? Oct 26 11:59:08 rob_w|laptop: pester Atmel to say yes or no to Koen Oct 26 11:59:31 hrw, hmm i see Oct 26 11:59:43 but that was glibc-native complaining like this Oct 26 12:00:27 rob_w|laptop: Koen has avr32 support but waits for Atmel decision (sth like that) Oct 26 12:02:01 well go for it .. my company will also give the avr32 a go .. and of course i will use oe for it to build Oct 26 12:03:31 koen, u there ? Oct 26 12:41:48 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r3664c838... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): opie-todo 1.2.3: another fix for stricter gcc. Oct 26 12:43:44 polyonymous_: stricter == 4.1? Oct 26 12:49:05 hrw, uhmm.. whichever is in angstrom 2008.1 Oct 26 12:49:29 hrw, but this strictness - requiring '= 0' and not '= 0l' for pure virtuals is quite fine, anyway. Oct 26 12:50:38 hmm.. cros-initial 4.1.2, cross - 4.2.1... Oct 26 12:51:27 polyonymous|note: 4.2 Oct 26 12:51:58 hrw, yup. is it not strange that gcc-cross-initial in my workdir is 4.1.2 ? Oct 26 12:52:06 (I don't know, maybe it's not) Oct 26 13:09:39 rwhitby, nice wiki on the N800 :-) Oct 26 13:13:35 rwhitby, I'm assuming you have created a rootfs for the N800 using OE? How does it stack-up to the Nokia build? Oct 26 13:33:48 koen: ping :) Oct 26 13:34:18 koen: if not using PKG_ to give it a fixed name, how can I still install webkit-gtklauncher into my image? Oct 26 13:44:49 ~change 1000000 jpy to gbp Oct 26 13:44:55 i got some error trying that Oct 26 13:46:10 xe.com interface in ibot is broken Oct 26 13:48:45 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb9686567... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp.inc): linux-rp: sync with Poky (removal of OpenZaurus stuff, added autoload for pcmcia) Oct 26 14:23:07 I am trying to completely replace FILES_${PN} in a recipe. When I peek the var in bitbake -i, it looks correct. Oct 26 14:23:26 but when I build the package, it pulls in the default files (/usr/bin, etc) Oct 26 14:23:30 any ideas? Oct 26 14:44:39 morning Oct 26 14:55:28 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rf3edd5c7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): kdepimpi: gcc syntax fix. Oct 26 14:55:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf853836f... 10/ (1 packages/libowl/libowl_svn.bb): libowl: sync with Poky Oct 26 14:55:40 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra41270f1... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gconf-dbus_svn.bb): gconf-dbus: do not install gconf.service into /usr/share/dbus-1.0/ dir as it is not used by DBus (from Poky) Oct 26 15:25:21 for some reason, changes to PACKAGES in a recipe are not being seen -- it looks it must be cached somewhere and not being updated Oct 26 15:25:41 * cbrake tries bumping PR Oct 26 15:27:32 odd, when I peek PACKAGES in bitbake -i it is one thing, but when I print the var from package_ipk.bbclass, it is another Oct 26 15:27:42 I'm clearly missing something very basic Oct 26 15:38:55 "bitbake -i" is broken Oct 26 15:43:38 hrw: ahh, ok. I've also noticed that if I set PACKAGES = "", and print the var from package_ipk.bbclass, it retains the last thing you set it to. I wonder where it stores that info ... Oct 26 16:07:02 koen: are you there? Oct 26 16:08:47 I just got home Oct 26 16:08:55 * koen hates 200km commutes Oct 26 16:09:32 koen: awesome, I hope it is hot enough there Oct 26 16:10:21 zecke: soory if I cames across too harsh this morning Oct 26 16:10:34 * koen shouldn't send emails when being half awake at 6 in the morning Oct 26 16:11:05 koen: I didn't count the number of occurences of maintainer ;) Oct 26 16:12:04 bye Oct 26 16:12:07 koen: my reasoning. I was too lazy to look into debian.bbclass but saw libxml2 and how they do it, but that is only the implementation Oct 26 16:13:13 koen: I'm building a image with minimo, qtlauncher, xrestop, gtklauncher and exmapserver but I forgot how to convince image.bbclass/ipkg to find the right webkit-{qt,gtk}launcher package and the name libwebkit-gtklauncher was odd anyway ;) Oct 26 16:14:04 my reasoning was that the launcher was so basic and featureless is really was only a launcher for libwekit :) Oct 26 16:15:32 koen: I don't really care for the names but what to put into "IMAGE_INSTALL" when debian renaming is enabled Oct 26 16:15:52 koen: my approach: don't rename the launcher package Oct 26 16:16:28 the entry as listed in PACKAGES works Oct 26 16:16:46 OE will autoconvert it to debian naming if needed Oct 26 16:16:59 hi Oct 26 16:17:14 can anybody tell me what the status of collie in oe/angstrom is? Oct 26 16:17:30 koen: it didn't but I can take another look. I won't be in the office until tomorrow though Oct 26 16:17:32 ahh, bitbake.conf:FILES_${PN} clobbers mono-xsp.bb:FILES_mono-xsp -- good to know Oct 26 16:17:42 is there a developer at the moment who fix the issues for collie? Oct 26 16:21:56 * zecke|assignment wonders if "// empty line" is a good comment Oct 26 16:31:29 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r75638fa4... 10/ (1 packages/mono-xsp packages/mono-xsp/mono-xsp_1.2.5.bb): mono-xsp: add package Oct 26 16:31:33 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r261e22bd... 10/ (1 packages/mono-xsp/mono-xsp_1.2.5.bb): mono-xsp 1.2.5: fix FILES_ for mono-xsp package Oct 26 16:31:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc18beadc... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux.inc): linux.inc: enable OABI on EABI builds Oct 26 17:17:16 ljp: ping Oct 26 17:28:50 zecke|assignment: pong Oct 26 17:34:37 If anyone needs Zaurus Stylus (the nice metal ones) they are 2.99 on amazon (for two) right now Oct 26 17:47:50 http://eagain.net/blog/2007/10/12/snakepit-and-gitosis.html .. heh, gitosis reminds me of the old bkbits hosting Oct 26 17:48:53 good times Oct 26 18:19:24 re Oct 26 18:19:38 moin Oct 26 18:26:05 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r268c9b5f... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): openmoko-tasks2: add icon Oct 26 18:26:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc5975a0c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: bump openmoko stuff, tested on gta01 and a780 Oct 26 18:38:22 bye Oct 26 19:04:18 I bought a micro SD card that looks exactly like the one koen had at OEDEM and I still can't format with ext2 Oct 26 19:04:27 hm Oct 26 19:04:27 I wonder if my usb reader sucks .... Oct 26 19:04:31 try fdisk Oct 26 19:04:35 to re partion Oct 26 19:04:36 hmmm Oct 26 19:04:39 good point Oct 26 19:04:43 thanks! Oct 26 19:05:02 I had problem here that I cant read cards which have no partions Oct 26 19:05:11 I once had an SD card with a file system on /dev/mmcda (note the lack of a parition number...) Oct 26 19:05:15 but using the whole card Oct 26 19:05:22 it caused all kinds of hell. fdisk made life better Oct 26 19:05:38 zero yes that worked in an treo Oct 26 19:05:49 but I didnt get it mounted under linux Oct 26 19:07:39 hi henryk Oct 26 19:07:49 re Oct 26 19:10:44 no joy :( Oct 26 19:11:34 crofton strange Oct 26 19:11:48 yeah Oct 26 19:29:12 cbrake: Henryk said those mono binding aren't worth adding to OE, since you need to absorb there sources into your own app instead using the dll/.so/whatevermonocallsit Oct 26 19:29:33 koen: ahh, good to know Oct 26 19:29:53 that was last week, so things might have changed Oct 26 19:30:21 " Notice that the comments in sourcecode about softfloat, vfp Oct 26 19:30:22 and fpa, and how the relate to arm eabi are incorrect." Oct 26 19:30:53 * koen reads http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430582 Oct 26 19:31:17 koen: I'm mainly hoping Kestner will poke someone at Novell to fix the ARM bugs Oct 26 19:32:26 cbrake: yes, i was mainly following the blog posting of mkestner which said that it would not be useful to get those into the gac at this point: http://mkestner.blogspot.com/2007/10/moko-bindings.html Oct 26 19:32:38 maybe later, when libmokoui can be considered stable Oct 26 19:32:50 when hell freezes over? Oct 26 19:32:52 * koen hides Oct 26 19:33:32 Henryk: so did lupus every resond to your IRC question on #mono? Oct 26 19:33:40 cbrake: lupus has been assigned this bug and answered a question on the mailing list about it. i tried it on #mono but he probably didn't see me. maybe use mono-devel-list again Oct 26 19:38:18 * koen falls over Oct 26 19:38:21 'night all Oct 26 19:38:26 nite koen Oct 26 19:38:30 sleep well Oct 26 19:40:42 the mono gapi stuff looks kind of neat Oct 26 19:41:13 indeed Oct 26 19:44:04 Henryk: have you run enough mono on ARM yet to get a feel for the performance -- say compared to Python? Oct 26 19:46:29 I didn't do any performance critical stuff, but there was a quite noticeable startup delay, then everything seemed fine Oct 26 20:32:04 any ideas to hide the X cursor? maybe some parameter to Xomap? i tried to install xcursor-transparent-theme, but didn't work Oct 26 20:38:24 i installed the transparent theme, create the symlink under ~/.icons and the index.theme file, but not lucky til now Oct 26 20:39:45 actually there is just the transparent theme under /usr/share/icons! Does the Xomap get the cursors from WHERE? Oct 26 21:02:30 re Oct 26 21:47:04 03Zero_Chaos 07org.oe.dev * rc45039b9... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Oct 26 21:47:04 rt2570-k2wrlz_1.6.1.bb, rt73-k2wrlz_2.0.1.bb : 2.6.23 capable versions Oct 26 21:47:04 of these modules from Zero_Chaos Oct 26 21:47:32 w00t Oct 26 21:47:35 :-) Oct 26 22:05:49 devs : anyone know why this simple Makefile.SH.patch is locked down at the OE repo? Oct 26 22:05:52 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/perl/perl-5.8.8/Makefile.SH.patch Oct 26 22:11:04 * * OE Bug 3215 has been created by r.farina(AT)adelphia.net Oct 26 22:11:06 * * Ralink USB WiFi drivers Oct 26 22:11:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 Oct 26 22:23:26 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r99b52591... 10/ (1 packages/kismet/kismet-newcore_svn.bb): kismet-newcore_svn.bb : disable gpsmap, it doesnt build in newcore Oct 26 22:30:43 hey all Oct 26 22:30:55 do any distros run prelink on the rootfs prior to making images? Oct 26 22:38:04 * * OE Bug 3215 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by dp(AT)xora.org.uk Oct 26 22:38:06 * *  Ralink USB WiFi drivers Oct 26 22:38:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 27 02:59:56 2007