**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 29 02:59:56 2007 Oct 29 03:14:45 * davygravy is away: ...for a while... Oct 29 05:59:22 ~seen RP Oct 29 05:59:24 rp is currently on #maemo (1d 2h 58m 44s) #handhelds (1d 2h 58m 44s) #oe (1d 2h 58m 44s) #openmoko (1d 2h 58m 44s) #openzaurus (1d 2h 58m 44s), last said: 'morning all'. Oct 29 06:24:32 urgent! someone help me. my SL-7500C cannot work. I made "NAND restore" with SL-C750-ENG-NAND-original-1.0.zip from http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/service-menus/. Then in the service-menus i cannot update my rom. when i press update button, the lcd became black. Oct 29 06:27:24 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r85303a48... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add python-pyusb, python bindings to libusb Oct 29 06:29:36 i don't think too many people know about such things here. better try channels like #cacko, #zaurus, or #pdaxrom.org Oct 29 06:32:27 en, thankyou. Oct 29 06:32:33 :) Oct 29 06:32:40 np, good speed Oct 29 06:33:04 i am searching in other forums, groups, :(. Oct 29 06:38:02 ~lart libusb Oct 29 06:38:02 * ibot shoves a crumpet down libusb's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? Oct 29 07:26:45 good morning all ! Oct 29 08:06:40 morning Oct 29 08:06:55 cbrake_away: let me know when you are around Oct 29 09:05:31 morning Oct 29 09:07:34 morning XorA Oct 29 09:09:59 morning all Oct 29 09:23:44 did someone ever use a video capture device on linux ? Oct 29 09:46:26 morning Oct 29 09:46:36 nud: I use bt878 tv card at home Oct 29 09:47:00 * oxo uses ivtv and pwc at home Oct 29 09:52:38 hrw, hi!!! i have some question about progear tablet Oct 29 09:54:04 then ask gremlin[it] Oct 29 09:55:36 i have trouble on a device with mtouch serial touchscreen ... there is a way to make it available via tsdev or evdev ? Oct 29 09:56:00 i saw only example about using XFree/XOrg driver Oct 29 09:56:23 there is kernel driver for one of mtouch touchscreens Oct 29 09:57:09 good morning Oct 29 09:57:13 linux/drivers/input/touchscreen/mtouch.c Oct 29 09:57:28 but it did not worked on progear (which use mt510) Oct 29 09:57:35 hiii florian Oct 29 10:24:38 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r705196b2... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-mediaplayer2_svn.bb): Oct 29 10:24:38 openmoko-mediaplayer2_svn.bb : RDEPEND on openmoko-sound-system2 to make Oct 29 10:24:38 sure it always pulls in right stuff. Oct 29 10:24:41 hrw: I meant, on an embedded device Oct 29 10:26:28 nud: ah.. then not me (yet) Oct 29 10:35:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf8274b21... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: bump webkit Oct 29 10:41:39 hrw, in fact, i'm not able to make it work! when kernel module is loaded no new input device appear and no messages on log or dmegs ... nothing ... :( Oct 29 10:42:08 It looks like gcc-cross needs gfortran on the host machine... should we add this to the openembedded-essential package? Oct 29 10:56:04 florian: That sounds bad :/ Oct 29 10:57:34 florian: there is a bug report for that bug Oct 29 10:58:16 XorA: yep, just found it #3085 Oct 29 10:58:26 florian: goodo, just checking Oct 29 11:00:50 good morning Oct 29 11:05:58 gremlin[it]: you mean when you load mtouch module? Oct 29 11:15:48 ~curse local net connection Oct 29 11:15:49 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, local net connection ! Oct 29 11:29:10 morninf Oct 29 11:58:42 XorA: is it normal that uboot-mkimage-openmoko fails to fetc from git? Oct 29 11:58:55 hrw: no Oct 29 11:59:22 hrw: due to git crappiness I do seem to recall at somepoint having to delete the directory from sources Oct 29 12:00:04 anyway time for lunch Oct 29 12:00:16 crap Oct 29 13:04:49 * koen|away states that people doing DEPENDS = "libiconv" should be taken out and shot Oct 29 13:05:06 * koen|away gets back to studying and getting depressed by the weather Oct 29 13:34:54 greetings and salutations Oct 29 13:35:34 gm Oct 29 13:51:57 re Oct 29 13:58:00 hi mickey-tw Oct 29 13:58:10 yo florian Oct 29 13:58:37 mickey-tw: hey, still awake? Oct 29 13:58:39 schöne Grüße an Nils, ich hab jetzt mehr hintergrundinformationen und werde mich melden, wenn ich zurück bin Oct 29 13:58:42 zecke: heya Oct 29 13:58:49 zecke: ya. Raster kocht essen Oct 29 13:58:53 :) Oct 29 13:59:39 mickey-tw: richte ich aus :) Oct 29 13:59:40 zecke: i'll send your assignment over to Sabine. lets see what she finds out Oct 29 13:59:47 florian: thanks Oct 29 14:00:22 * florian shoots libtiff Oct 29 14:00:50 mickey-tw: lol, thanks you! Oct 29 14:01:04 damn, I have to go to the embassy soon... Oct 29 14:01:18 what for? Oct 29 14:01:20 oh btw. Oct 29 14:01:22 File "/space/fic/openmoko-oe.dev/bitbake/lib/bb/runqueue.py", line 282, in prepare_runqueue Oct 29 14:01:23 listid = taskData.tasks_lookup[fnid][target[1]] Oct 29 14:01:23 KeyError: 'do_rebiuld' Oct 29 14:01:26 nasty nasty Oct 29 14:01:31 we shouldn't present tracebacks Oct 29 14:01:39 better "Can't find task rebiuld" Oct 29 14:01:57 Yeah... tracebacks are evil Oct 29 14:02:08 or "learn to spell, you crazy german!" ;) Oct 29 14:02:58 koen: isn't crazy included in german? Oct 29 14:03:19 tracebacks are java, java == evil. Oct 29 14:03:49 java feeds hungry OE hackers :) Oct 29 14:04:41 koen: libwebkitgtklauncher -> webkit-gtklauncher -> libwebkitgtklauncher should I bump PR, add RPVOIDES/RCONFLICTS? Oct 29 14:05:11 zecke: you can't add R* because of debian.bbclass Oct 29 14:05:29 Ya, my day job involves java -- puts meals on the table and pays the mortgage. But I don't have to *like* java! ;-) :D Oct 29 14:05:32 another reason why people shouldn change debian naming of existing recipes without discussion Oct 29 14:05:32 RP: should image.bbclass use package.bbclass to sed the IMAGE_INSTALL? Oct 29 14:05:57 koen: discussions are overrated :) Oct 29 14:06:41 They are when others won't particpate in the discussion, anyway. Oct 29 14:07:04 Anyone else who has seen tiff do_qa_configure fail? Oct 29 14:07:14 * mwester is about to commit something because nobody will comment, and expects someone will comment loudly *after* its committed. Oct 29 14:07:14 florian: not yet Oct 29 14:07:38 mwester: that's the way it is Oct 29 14:10:34 koen: you might see two tasks and two images when looking at oe.dev committs, they will be removed soon afterwards Oct 29 14:12:02 zecke: how's the qtopia-phone-image.bb coming along? Oct 29 14:12:25 koen: dog slow Oct 29 14:12:28 * koen is getting tired of people untarring qtopia binaries over an existing angstrom-rootfs Oct 29 14:12:56 koen: mostly busy with preparing talks, webkit, uni and fighting the insanity of the Qtopia buildsystem Oct 29 14:14:02 zecke: I have seen a lot of build systems that were easier to replace by autotools (!) than fixing them. Oct 29 14:14:42 florian: we won't use autotools but I have a plot.... Oct 29 14:15:12 zecke: does that include a patch adding a file "configure.ac"? ;) Oct 29 14:15:13 koen: imagine, one would build the whole qtopia source tree in one go and use do_split_packages, that would be ugly... Oct 29 14:15:26 florian: no, qmake is 'okay' Oct 29 14:17:16 hah... NOTE: package tiff-3.7.2-r3: task do_qa_configure: completed Oct 29 14:18:01 koen: regarding the crazy germans, at least I try to pronounce your name properly nowadays... Oct 29 14:18:27 and I try to pronounce your lastname correctly :) Oct 29 14:18:51 koen: don't try, you will see the day you can call me "Hendricks" Oct 29 14:27:35 as long as you guys don't try to pronounce my last name correctly... ;) Oct 29 14:28:49 bbl Oct 29 14:32:04 Jin^eLD: or mine ;D Oct 29 14:32:39 =) Oct 29 14:32:49 we could have a "last name competition" or something Oct 29 14:34:57 which can be hard for anyone Oct 29 14:35:35 spelling Juszkiewicz for westernians is hard but how to tell Freyther properly is unknown for me ;) Oct 29 14:36:10 hrw: I'm a buddhist so you can't spell my name incorrectly because I don't have any... Oct 29 14:36:26 heh Oct 29 14:36:45 bbkl Oct 29 14:39:09 ;D Oct 29 14:39:19 hi Khem and CosmicPenguin Oct 29 14:46:39 re Oct 29 14:51:25 zecke: Yes, probably Oct 29 14:54:47 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r5061a0d1... 10/ (1 packages/webkit/webkit.inc): Oct 29 14:54:47 packages/webkit/webkit.inc: Allow debian package renaming again Oct 29 14:54:47 -Remove the code that disabled debian package renaming as of Oct 29 14:54:47 koen's mail. Oct 29 14:54:47 -Don't bump the PR as the libraries have not changed, and Oct 29 14:54:48 webkit-gtklauncher and libwebkitgtklauncher have nothing in common Oct 29 14:54:50 but the same files ;) Oct 29 14:54:54 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r33e17c2a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): Oct 29 14:54:56 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: webkit-qt and webkit-qtopia can use the same rev Oct 29 14:54:58 Make webkit-qt and webkit-qtopia use the same rev as the webkit-gtk Oct 29 14:55:00 port. Oct 29 14:55:02 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rd9bbb1a5... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): packages/uicmoc: Unify uicmoc4-native Oct 29 14:55:04 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r1d191d57... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Oct 29 14:55:08 packages/webkit: Apply the qtwebkit-use-image-decoders.patch to WebKit/Qt, WebKit/Qtopia Oct 29 14:55:10 -Use the built-in webcore decoders because of better RAM performance Oct 29 14:55:12 -Move the PR into the .inc Oct 29 15:30:46 re Oct 29 15:32:04 * * OE Bug 3225 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 29 15:32:06 * * Upgrade to syslog-ng 2.0.5 Oct 29 15:32:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3225 Oct 29 16:02:06 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r670088b0... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/librecord_1.0.bb): librecord: Add 1.0 Oct 29 16:02:13 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb628e586... 10/ (1 packages/libtiff/tiff_3.7.2.bb): tiff: Add lzo to dependencies, otherwise it will try to link against a build host lzo. Oct 29 16:02:32 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r47227a7d... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/libabenabler_1.0.bb): libabenabler: add 1.0 Oct 29 16:02:46 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r9f941448... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): checksums.ini: Remove no longer valid checksums, workaround for #3122 Oct 29 16:03:04 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rdb4a82a6... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Start cleaning up STAGING variables (from Poky) Oct 29 16:03:26 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r225c8503... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Fix base prefixes in FILES (from poky) Oct 29 16:03:32 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0f57b5b2... 10/ (1 classes/autotools.bbclass): autotools.bbclass: Reference STAGING_DATADIR (from poky) Oct 29 16:03:42 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r849d4658... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Update staging references (from poky) Oct 29 16:03:49 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re44d1d08... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Move do_install note to more appropriate place Oct 29 16:04:20 RP: I was just about to mail you about that :) Oct 29 16:04:23 whew Oct 29 16:04:27 hey Mark Oct 29 16:04:37 koen: This is just a warmup :/ Oct 29 16:04:58 RP: I wanted to ask you when you wanted to start poking at staging :) Oct 29 16:05:13 Nothing should actually change with those changes, it just lets us start unbreaking recipes Oct 29 16:05:31 The next push to gnome-common is an example of what we need to do everywhere Oct 29 16:05:52 is staging machine specific now? Oct 29 16:06:21 koen: Nothing that dramatic Oct 29 16:06:45 This needs to be lots of small steps. I'll mail the list about it Oct 29 16:06:54 thanks Oct 29 16:09:35 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r2239ddf3... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gnome-common: Don't hardcode staging paths (from Poky) Oct 29 16:10:08 does anyone else hate the git fetcher? Oct 29 16:10:27 Crofton: most of us hate git in general Oct 29 16:10:59 I need it to work on the machine it is not working on .... Oct 29 16:11:40 Crofton: did your student get http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/toolchain/ working? Oct 29 16:11:50 that is a future project Oct 29 16:12:00 saldy Oct 29 16:12:24 I need to go see if we can interest someone in it as a project Oct 29 16:12:35 * Crofton needs to schedule defense date Oct 29 16:17:05 * * OE Bug 3226 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 29 16:17:07 * * Use WORKDIR path to access apache2 init script Oct 29 16:17:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3226 Oct 29 16:17:17 * * OE Bug 2043 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by Oct 29 16:17:19 * *  libvocenabler fails do_compile Oct 29 16:17:21 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2043 Oct 29 16:17:29 * * OE Bug 3196 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 29 16:17:31 * *  gpephone-image fails on librecord due to problems in Makefile. am and configure.ac Oct 29 16:17:33 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3196 Oct 29 16:17:41 * * OE Bug 3122 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 29 16:17:43 * *  bitbake gpephone-image fails on liblipsevent due to incorrect MD5/ SHA256 checksums Oct 29 16:17:45 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3122 Oct 29 16:22:56 koen: what's the current thinking on providing org.openembedded.stable? any target timeframe? Oct 29 16:24:49 sakoman: my last mail about trying to move in a stable direction got a whopping 2 replies, so it's now extremely low priority for me now Oct 29 16:26:00 koen: OK, just wondering whether I should declare my own org.openembedded.stable-enough-for-me or wait for the real thing :-) Oct 29 16:26:18 Now I know what to do! Oct 29 16:26:32 .stable is a whole shitload of work unless someone with enough time to maintain it fulltime steps up Oct 29 16:26:50 and since only 2 persons seem interested in it... Oct 29 16:27:23 sakoman: angstrom 2007.1 is now completely locked down version-wise, so that's as good as it gets in .dev Oct 29 16:27:51 koen: Understood -- that's what I'm using Oct 29 16:28:34 so minus toolchain breakage (no-one responds to RFCs about that either) it is stable Oct 29 16:29:10 It's time for me to lock down stuff so that the only new instabilities are those that I introduce myself :) Oct 29 16:34:04 * * OE Bug 3227 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 29 16:34:06 * * Remove warnings about unsupported scp arguments Oct 29 16:34:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3227 Oct 29 16:35:00 Ok, two fairly important mails sent to the dev mailing list... Oct 29 16:38:57 RP: could we write out the seen[] array to a file? Oct 29 16:39:26 RP: that would make it easier to say something like "which packages provides /path/foo.sh?" Oct 29 16:40:33 koen: That would be something to target with a cleanup of the pkgdata and pkgmaps stuff Oct 29 16:41:12 right Oct 29 16:41:20 I have some more QA magic in mind :) Oct 29 16:41:59 RP: koen BTW after investigation I abandoned the idea of some form of LD_PRELOAD unionfs Oct 29 16:42:37 XorA: That's probably a relief ;-) Oct 29 16:43:01 RP: didnt realise they had basically crippled LD_PRELOAD in glibc Oct 29 16:45:00 XorA: :( Oct 29 16:45:53 RP: its not as bad as that, but it seems that in order to speed loading of applications some glibc calls cant be PRELOAD overridden Oct 29 16:46:04 RP: so would need root access anyway Oct 29 16:48:02 XorA: I think its just going to get too complex :/ Oct 29 16:48:40 RP: that was my feeling, last time I played with it it as simple, now a few years on linux has got more complex Oct 29 16:55:53 steliosk: you forgot the attachment! Oct 29 16:58:04 * * OE Bug 3228 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 29 16:58:06 * * Fix perl path for target installed perl scripts Oct 29 16:58:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3228 Oct 29 17:01:58 could somebody familiar with altboot checkout oebug 3007? Oct 29 17:41:49 zecke : hehe Oct 29 17:41:58 zecke : sending it now Oct 29 18:02:14 changing SD card readers allowed me to create an ext2 card on my micro sd cards Oct 29 18:16:04 * * OE Bug 3229 has been created by  Oct 29 18:16:06 * * upgrade path for gsmd broken Oct 29 18:16:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3229 Oct 29 18:31:33 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rcad7c38f... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): libxmlccwrap: add libxmlccwrap Oct 29 18:31:40 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re8160c2f... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: depend on libxmlccwrap Oct 29 18:31:46 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6a32a1a3... 10/ (1 packages/fontconfig/fontconfig_2.4.1.bb): fontconfig: Fix hardcoded staging path (from poky) Oct 29 18:31:52 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd057fef7... 10/ (1 packages/dbus/dbus-glib_0.74.bb): dbus-glib: Fix harcoded staging paths (from Poky) Oct 29 18:31:57 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rae9008a5... 10/ (1 packages/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.inc): pkgconfig.inc: We should be installing pkgconfig files into LIBDIR now (from poky) Oct 29 18:34:35 RP: yay, also hooray for the do_package fix. Oct 29 18:37:19 Should current OE be able to build things like gtk+/pango/etc for directfb rather then x11? Oct 29 18:37:52 I'm seeing gtk+-directfb needs cairo-directfb and pango-directfb, but the pango one is missing Oct 29 18:54:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcce20a79... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-ezx 2.6.23: repair defconfig Oct 29 18:54:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r05885b7c... 10/ (1 packages/ezx/ezxd_svn.bb): ezxd: mark ezxd.conf as conffile to preser user changes Oct 29 19:09:04 * * OE Bug 3230 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Oct 29 19:09:06 * * no hostap cf support in 2.6.23 builds for akita Oct 29 19:09:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3230 Oct 29 19:19:15 re Oct 29 19:19:56 flo_lap: wb Oct 29 19:20:31 arrrgh, the gsmd->gsmd-devel rename broke the plugin dependencies Oct 29 19:23:48 pH5: please add that o http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3229 Oct 29 19:31:09 hm. gsmd-devel recommends gsmd-devel-plugins, as it should (and it provides/replaces/conflicts gsmd), but for some reason gsmd-devel-plugins was not installed into the image Oct 29 19:34:36 pH5: shlib renaming Oct 29 19:34:58 log.do_rootfs has a message "gsmd-devel: unsatisfied recommendation for gsmd-devel-plugins" Oct 29 19:35:32 and gsmd-devel-plugins exists in the ipk dir, it is an empty meta package that depends on all the individual plugins Oct 29 19:35:58 pH5: both gsmd and -devel produce libgsmd0 Oct 29 19:36:20 pH5: and hence both will create libgsmd-plugin- packages Oct 29 19:36:46 koen: no, no. the plugin packages are not shlib-renamed. Oct 29 19:37:09 the packages built fine, everything exists and the recommendation is correct, but still ipkg didn't install it into rootfs. Oct 29 19:37:24 doesn't look like a gsmd package bug. Oct 29 19:39:04 * * OE Bug 3231 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Oct 29 19:39:06 * * matchbox misbehaviour in 2.6.23 angstrom x11-image builds Oct 29 19:39:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 Oct 29 19:40:05 * * OE Bug 2904 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Oct 29 19:40:06 * *  Dependencies not matched installing openmoko stuff Oct 29 19:40:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2904 Oct 29 19:49:28 what was that "bitbake -c menuconfig" command? was that it? Oct 29 19:58:35 Crofton : Thanks ! Oct 29 19:59:52 np Oct 29 20:00:59 BTW i saw the answer on edev, but i am looking for something that is lower cost than gumstix and is in "assembled" format Oct 29 20:01:04 evening Oct 29 20:01:09 hi cbrake Oct 29 20:01:28 cbrake, did you read my message the other day? pcmcia works fine Oct 29 20:01:30 how assembled? Oct 29 20:01:42 you saw the link to the hammer board also Oct 29 20:01:54 gilligan_: hello Oct 29 20:01:55 although that is "less" assembled Oct 29 20:02:07 Crofotn : with case and everything and cost less that 100$ Oct 29 20:02:15 try asking now Oct 29 20:02:21 the us guys are awake Oct 29 20:02:48 gilligan_: great, do you want to send me a patch, or just push the defconfig changes? Oct 29 20:05:15 cbrake, i'll mail you a patch from work tomorrow.. i'm still having the somewhat annoying issue that due to the firewall I can't access mtn from work, yet all my stuff is (obviously) at work.. ANYWAY... i'll just send you a patch tomorrow Oct 29 20:05:26 gilligan_: sounds good -- thanks! Oct 29 20:06:41 cbrake, and my compulab board is gone for good.. I'll have to send it in probably Oct 29 20:09:47 does anyone in here know david from the ml who is currently working on OE documentation ? is he ever in here? Oct 29 20:10:58 steliosk: I ran accross this the other day: http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjrsx/details.html Oct 29 20:11:06 steliosk: 486 :-\ Oct 29 20:20:27 cbrake : Thanks. I'll have a look. Oct 29 20:20:43 Arch is not important.... price is Oct 29 20:47:22 "bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel" requires gnome-terminal? can we please fix that..... Oct 29 20:48:53 Zero_Chaos: it launched the term cmd you have configured Oct 29 20:49:12 so if you don't want gnome-terminal you shouldn't tell OE to use gnome-terminal Oct 29 20:49:20 koen|away: I didn't realize I had a term command configured... Oct 29 20:49:26 koen|away: can you tell me where that would be? Oct 29 20:50:33 koen|away: just kinda curious, seeing as I have not even loaded X11 for weeks... I would have thought it would show in my console. Oct 29 21:02:07 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rb8a128dd... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-app/xterm_207.bb): xterm: Fix what looks like a totally insane staging path (probably missed in pervious rounds of cleanup?) Oct 29 21:02:13 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1975ac84... 10/ (1 packages/lua/lua-gtk2_0.3.bb): lua-gtk: This looks very very wrong but is equivalent... - Fix staging references Oct 29 21:02:19 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6221aa72... 10/ (21 files in 13 dirs): packages: Improve BUILD_SYS references to staging Oct 29 21:03:04 anyone want to teach me how to set my OE term command to console? Oct 29 21:05:15 ???? Oct 29 21:07:23 koen said that gnome-terminal is my OE configured terminal command, and I can't recall setting it so I don't know how to fix it. Oct 29 21:08:19 does anybody know USB guts pretty well? Oct 29 21:08:37 Zero_Chaos: Grep bitbake.conf for TERM_CMD Oct 29 21:09:04 RP: can I override that in my conf/local.conf? Oct 29 21:11:10 okay so the default termcmd is gnome_termcmd which defaults to gnome-terminal (which is what it tries to spawn). but I just want it on the damned console and I don't see that in here.... Oct 29 21:11:30 screen_termcmd may do it.... Oct 29 21:12:16 but can I override bitbake.conf in my conf/local.conf or do I need to copy bitbake.conf to my conf/ and override the whole file (which is icky) Oct 29 21:13:05 * * OE Bug 3232 has been created by rodrigo.vivi(AT)gmail.com Oct 29 21:13:06 Zero_Chaos: It has to connect back in some way due threading issues :/ Oct 29 21:13:06 * * icecc-create-env. sh is adding cc1 and cc1plus to wrong directory Oct 29 21:13:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3232 Oct 29 21:14:02 RP: I'm sorry, I don't understand. Oct 29 21:14:21 RP: can I change to screen by setting termcmd in my conf/local.conf? Oct 29 21:15:04 Zero_Chaos: TERMCMD = "${SCREEN_TERMCMD}" ? Oct 29 21:15:20 You might need to set TERMCMDRUN too Oct 29 21:15:34 RP: right right, but can I override bitbake.conf in local.conf? Oct 29 21:15:50 Zero_Chaos: Sure Oct 29 21:15:58 okay cool, thanks Oct 29 21:17:32 RP: btw, I'm told that hostap doesn't work in your latest 2.6.23 kernel, I'm checking it out now, expect a bug report with my wifi fixes / additions to the kernel. Oct 29 21:18:02 Zero_Chaos: Sounds good, I've heard rumours of issues but havent had a chance to look into it :) Oct 29 21:18:59 RP: I'll be honest, I have all intentions of spending a lot of work on wifi for your 2.6.23 (which I have been waiting months to be released because of a specific driver). Because I will work on wifi, save your talents for something else until at least after my reports. Oct 29 21:20:21 life hates me Oct 29 21:21:01 I set screen_termcmd and screen_termcmdrun as default in local.conf and it tries to run gnome-terminal anyway Oct 29 21:23:39 maybe that's the default? Oct 29 21:24:07 well yes, but I thought I just overrode the default Oct 29 21:26:58 yeah, so apparently local.conf doesn't override bitbake.conf because I cannot make it use screen instead of gnome-terminal Oct 29 21:27:05 this is we todd ed Oct 29 21:29:09 Zero_Chaos: I said to set TERMCMD, not screen_termcmd Oct 29 21:29:43 termcmd ?= screen_termcmd Oct 29 21:29:44 ;-) Oct 29 21:29:58 I tried to change the "default" as bitbake.conf said to Oct 29 21:30:01 no worky Oct 29 21:30:19 and yes I have quotes and {} and all that, I copied and pasted what I wanted. Oct 29 21:31:28 and the run command, and everything. Oct 29 21:31:45 Zero_Chaos: Can you show me what you've put in local.conf? Oct 29 21:32:31 that's it Oct 29 21:33:25 that is what I put in conf/local.conf Oct 29 21:38:14 that was cool, it didn't fail, it just started and completed and showed me nothing... maybe it need an existing screen instance.... Oct 29 21:39:19 nope, even with an existing screen instance it doesn't make a new window. Oct 29 21:39:32 anyone actually use the term screen for this? Oct 29 21:39:57 maybe I should stop being an elitist console jockey and just install gnome... but somehow I don't see that happening Oct 29 21:40:08 RP: an idea why I suck? Oct 29 21:41:58 Zero_Chaos: To be honest, I can't remember how the screen terminal business works Oct 29 21:42:08 heh, fair enough Oct 29 21:42:15 I'll keep playing with it. Oct 29 21:42:23 hm someone borked opie Oct 29 21:42:29 darn all you people and your X11 Oct 29 21:42:38 NOTE: package libopie2-1.2.3-r0: task do_patch: started Oct 29 21:42:47 patching file opiedb/osqldriver.h Oct 29 21:42:47 Hunk #1 FAILED at 77. Oct 29 21:42:47 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file opiedb/osqldriver.h Oct 29 21:43:45 Does somebody have an idea how to boot media directly from the altboot console without needing to restart the machine? Oct 29 21:44:42 RP: Okay, I give. I will file a bug later and someone will yell at me till it works. Thanks for the help, I am part way there at least. Oct 29 21:48:14 or could somebody help me making altboot start udev? Oct 29 22:01:59 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r08654a6d... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Add dummy layout variables (describing the current staging layout for now) (from Poky) Oct 29 22:02:03 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r3cfcfc61... 10/ (16 files in 2 dirs): glibc: Factor staging function into a common .inc and remove hardcoded staging layout Oct 29 22:51:36 what's the difference between rootfs.jffs2 and rootfs.summary.jffs2? Oct 29 22:52:57 dcordes: jffs2 summary information -- faster initial mount time Oct 29 22:53:47 cbrake_away: any techincal difference/can I use either one for my zaurus? Oct 29 22:54:37 dcordes: you should check the kernel and see if jffs2 summary option is enabled. Oct 29 22:54:50 dcordes: I don't know of any reason not to use it, so it probably is Oct 29 22:55:55 ok thanks Oct 29 22:57:19 * mwester didn't know about the jffs2 summary information... one learns something every day :) Oct 29 23:02:09 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r6f5a35ac... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libgsmd-devel: install ts0705.h and ts0707.h, included by usock.h Oct 29 23:02:15 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rb59bd63b... 10/ (1 packages/telepathy/telepathy-idle_0.1.2.bb): telepathy: add telepathy-idle 0.1.2 Oct 29 23:07:05 * * OE Bug 3233 has been created by dbaryshkov(AT)gmail.com Oct 29 23:07:07 * * Update Tosa linux kernel patches Oct 29 23:07:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 Oct 29 23:09:26 who are the "Angstrom Developers" ? Oct 29 23:10:35 Kero: try #angstrom Oct 29 23:10:58 second redirect :) Oct 29 23:11:11 oops sorry Oct 29 23:23:35 how can I check in a running kernel whether a file system is supported by the latter or not? Oct 29 23:24:32 cat /proc/filesystems Oct 29 23:24:38 thanks Oct 29 23:24:42 sure. Oct 29 23:36:58 is it a normal behaviour with 2.6.23 images (several distros?) that some update-alternatvies processes are going on after first boot? Oct 30 00:02:17 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1eca501d... 10/ (30 files in 15 dirs): Remove final references to BUILD_SYS in staging paths **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 30 02:59:56 2007